I appreciate you sharing your experience. I woke up with all the symptoms you present with and I lost considerable strength to left tricep and upper pec. It’s also considerably atrophied in comparison to my right side. I literally cried after I went back to the gym. I couldn’t believe the 75% loss in strength and the inability for my tricep and pec to fire up and engage. I feel devastated but I still continue to work out hard and I’m hope that my strength and size will come back. It’s been 6 months and I’m getting stronger but not nearly as where I was before this unfortunate event.
Hey there, İ got this right before New years eve 23/24 and still am dealing with weakness in both shoulders. İ am so so so glad to read comments like yours so İ feel like i am not alone. Wishing you and all the others all the best, lots of strength and patience!
I feel like this comment was written by me. First day back in the gym was devastating when my left side collapsed during what was meant to be a warm-up set on the bench press.
I've read some possible healing properties of a ketogenic diet for PTS. I was diagnosed 4 months ago. Right thumb is still numb...can't fully reach over my head with right arm... overall energy is still quite low... I struggle with basic daily activities... has anyone tried keto to help healing? Grateful for these videos and comments from others who have PTS
I’m a 16 year old suffering from muscle atrophy and weakness across my right side as well, mainly affecting my right bicep, pec, and lower lat. This was due to a labor error, life is great.
I was diagnosed with cervical radiculopothy which is a pinched nerve in the neck, it’s cause sever pain in your chest, down your arm and into the tips of your pinky and ring finger. My symptoms subsided after 3 weeks of seeing a chiropractor and massage therapy once a week. I herniated the disc that caused the pain training jiu Jitsu and boxing. I’ve lost almost all the strength in my right arm and my right pec has shrunk so badly it’s embarrassing to take my shirt off. This is how I ended up here and I look forward to following your recovery, I wish you the best and thank you very much for your hard work and sharing what your learning.
I developed brachial neuritis after receiving my 2 COVID shots into my right arm. Apparently 15% of all reported cases are caused by any kind of vaccinations. The initial pain was excruciating and my doctor put me on painkiller and anti inflammatory drugs but after one month the pain has somewhat subsided but my arm and thumb are still numb and my muscles are weakened. I am doing daily exercises in order to speed up the recovery time.
Experiencing similar symptoms- got vaccine on my left arm but started noticing the weakness couple of months after. Noticeable bicep shrinkage, weakness BUT no pain, no tingling or numbness. MRI was clean. EmG showed nerve damage. What’s your status?
Wellcaptured I have no more pain, which is a huge relief. However, my thumb and skin still feels slightly numb. Regained some of the muscle strength but still only 60-70% what it was before.
@@babilov919 no further improvements…..I am still experiencing numbness and weakness in my arm all the way into my middle finger. I learned to live with it. 😒
I just experienced this same issue happen to me about 4 weeks ago during a heavy deadlift. It wasn’t the weight that caused the issue but rather the bounce/impact from the floor as I held on to the bar. The rebound threw my left shoulder back and I immediately felt as though I had paralyzed my neck. Everything in my neck became real stiff - I couldn’t look up or down or left or right. My neck had to stay in a neutral position at all times, otherwise the already excruciating pain would become unbearable. This affected my left arm, which is my dominant side - also very common according to research. I couldn’t sleep for close to two weeks straight, due to nerve pain down my arm and around my shoulder and scapula. It was the worst experience I’ve ever had. After about two weeks the pain finally subsided but I noticed I had nearly no function in my lower lat, tricep and pec muscle. This was a sign that it was PTS. Those three particular muscle groups wouldn’t fire/engage at all. They also atrophied right away. Seeing all of this happen was devastating and scary being that I am a very fit and strong individual, who could easily knock out 90 push-ups in two minutes for my Army PT test - now I could manage more than a few reps, and they weren’t pretty. I felt hopeless and lost as I wasn’t sure what it was. I’ve never experienced anything like this before. But I did gain some hope as I started researching and found videos and articles of almost exactly the same symptoms/issues that everyone else was having, self-diagnosing my new found issue - PTS. I’m not sure what lies in my future as far as possible issues like this happening again. The good news is I am noticing strength coming back slowly, which I think it is super important in the recovery process to be active. Resistance training and other “physical therapy-like” exercises to help recover will do wonders. Eliminating stress is also just as important as living a fit and healthy lifestyle, as stress itself can cause things like auto immune diseases, and have been shown to be prevalent and present in people experiencing PTS. I thought I was healthy before this happened to me but this has shown me that my mental healthy, which I wasn’t taking care of, is just as important as my physical health. You really can’t live a healthy life without either. They’re both equally important.
Experiencing the same - left bicep shrinkage, left arm weakness and grip weakness. I don’t have any pain, tingling or numbness. What was your diagnosis?
@@Wellcaptured Nothing, it perplexed every singe doctor and ive been to 2 neurologists, parsonage turner was the only thing that one neurologist said could be the culprit. Damage to the brachial plexus from lifting could have been another, but thats just my deduction.
@@underlordd interesting they are not able to pin point to the cause. Is it getting better with physical therapy or exercise? I am starting to see a bit improvement. BTW Did it start happening after being vaccinated?
@@Wellcaptured No this happened waaaay before COVID, out of the blue, my peck just started to waste away my biceps got smaller and my shoulder shrunk. I kept working out for years after and those areas would never get as good as a pump as the right side. What happened to you? Im curious.
@@underlordd started noticing my left arm and grip becoming weaker couple of months ago. Few weeks later noticed loss of mass in my bicep. No incident, tram-a or injury. Out of nowhere. Got EMG and it came back abnormal. Did a MRI on my cervical and lumbar but didn’t show any severe nerve pinched. Neurologist not able to figure it out. I did notice the change after the vax… I’m doing physical therapy, cold shower (wem hof method) and I’m seeing some positive results.
Thank you for vlog this happened to me about two years ago lost most of my strength and grip on my right side and its been slow going at the gym ever since, I literally couldn't bench a 2 kg dumbell without dropping it have worked up to 12 kg but still notice my pec and tricep is smaller on my right side. Nice to find others struggling with this condition cheers
This happened to me. My severe pain and numbness lasted about a week. On the affected side I was lifting similar weight to when I first started working out. Took about a year to get back to the numbers I was at before in the gym. Two years later I am stronger than I was when it happened. However I still notice a slight difference in strength compared to my other arm. My Lat was also affected and is noticeably smaller to this day. My lat and tricep seemed most affected, maybe a tiny bit in my pectoral.
Thanks for sharing. I share similar issues & am very active in the gym. It can be frustrating. My left bicep is the affected muscle. I do extra zottman curls with my left arm to help & preacher curls. Seems to at least keep that area decently active. Best of luck to you!!
appreciate this... i may be suffering from the same thing... experienced some bicep pain two weeks ago doing arms & shoulders at the gym... moderate arm pain followed for the next few days. 3 days later, back in the gym, discovered exceptional weakness in triceps, forearm brachialis, and pectoral (all right side, dominant hand)... initally assumed cervical disc herniation but MRI was negative for that... continue to have weakness in affected muscles and going for EMG next week... no noticeable atrophy just yet but i'm pretty sure it's coming - just a bit early still will continue to follow your progress and update with my own... keep up the videos - it's nice to feel like i'm not alone
Thanks for the comment Greg. Sounds very similar. I only noticed the atrophy (at a guess), about 3-4 weeks in. Let me know how you go with the EMG, I'd like to see what the results look like!
It’ll be two years with having this in August, I’m very thankful too just have very very slight muscle weakness and no winging, or being paralyzed in the arm. All thought I do have all of the pain I’m very thankful.
Thank you! I suffer from this exact issue following a gym injury while doing a back movement. My pain and numbness in my fingers lasted for almost two months. I have very noticeable atrophy but my strength is increasing. I switched to a German Volume training routine for six weeks. I have also been using electrical stimulation on the affected muscle to force contraction. The affected muscles still do not fire properly. I'm not sure I believe that this is a immune system issue, at least in my case.
Needed this. Except on my left tricep. I've been out of gym for 2 years now. Hoping to get back at it eventually. It's like my entire left lateral tricep wasted away almost completely.
Glad I found this video, I had similar issues . I was working out in the gym doing a shoulder exercise when I felt a burning sensation going through my back main the rhomboid also had tingling and my middle and index finger,it last about two weeks. Afterwards I lost strength on my left side along with weak tricep and muscle loss in my biceps and upper pec . It’s been about 8month and I’m slowly recovering I’m about 70% . I’m using resistance bands to properly warm up my shoulders before and after my workout 4 nights a week before bed I use a tens simulator lastly I’m using peptides to help . Hopefully this helps someone
im 28 in a month and at age 18 i experience weakness in my right hand. it followed by muscle twitching then finally my two smaller fingers limped over and i lost significant amount of muscle in my right hand. it was devastating . i went to a neurologist did mri and emg exams. They found nothing. for the past 10 years i dealt with it i played basketball and copped with a weak and almost cripple right hand..only a few persons in my family know about it . I thought i would be paralyzed by now but the weakness and nerve issues seemed to just attacked my right arm and hand . you cant tell unless you payed close attention or shaked my hand super long....i hope to find a solution as to why this happened to me but i didn't allow it to take over my life.
Did you ever get numbness in your arm? I’m dealing with this right now. EMG shows definite nerve issues in my index and thumb. Atrophy is very noticeable. MRI showed nothing though.
I was a big weight lifter very active person so at 22 years old I fell asleep and woke up the next day in most pain over ever felt in my life and it took almost a whole year to have surgery in my should I had a torn labrum but it’s 2 years post op and I’m still in pain same goes for my other shoulder
I feel ya I was down for about a month and now doing girl push-ups just to get my left side working again it’s very difficult especially when you are someone that was in the gym doing well. What’s weird it’s it’s not my dominant side so it’s extra weak but just gotta fight and get back to normal just another challenge
Thank you for sharing all of your experiences. I am trying to find people with PTS who have had nerve transfer surgery. I have PTS and lost never activity specific to the serratus anterior muscle. I experience "scapular winging" and am scheduled to transfer a nerve to enervate the serratus muscle. Hard to find others who have done this. Please let me know if anyone has reached out to you who has had that type of surgery!
Excatally what I am going through. My pec, bicep and tricep got hit hard. I worked out just about everyday, this hit me out of nowhere. I finally went back to the gym after quarantine, as bout 4 months off. I can feel my strength is going back up because my chest muscles activated alot more. I just want my arm size back. Good luck man, I hope things get better for us.
@@brownskingoodnessgold8828 sir it took a year to regain my strength. But I have to say I don't think I will ever be 100%. 97 at most. But thankful that I got back there.
Hey Sha, Would you have any updates on that ? Got operated on for a hernia and lost my pec and triceps. It looks really weird. Have you gotten your strength and volume back?
I actually recovered to about 95% it took about a year but I can always feel my right side gives out sooner than my left. My muscle balance is back but I will never have full strength I think. Was your surgery due to the syndrome?
I'm surprised they didn't see if you have impinged cervical nerves from disc herniation, bulging. Look in to decompress bro. It's been a years I had 19 inch arms and my left arm is approx 16. Pec, lat, serratus, bicep, extensor muscles and my fingers 3-5 are affect. It's been almost a year and I'm not considered recovered. Still can't do much weight and it all started with numbness years earlier, but had been doing therapy for carpelb. The severe pain last approx a month. I have partial paralysis and will be looking in to discectomy.
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I got my spine fused and I’m trying to do whatever to fix this shyt
I'm going through this right now. I experienced it after a night where I slept on my shoulder and it was completely anesthetized in the morning. Really scary. I'm now doing deep tissue massage, ice baths and hyperbaric therapy. 1 week in . We'll see how it goes.
@@christiancullen1391 it got better within about 3-4 months. Just had to stretch the neck and the spine out to take the pressure from the spinal disk off the nerve. Now im a lot better and it's no longer an issue.
Great revelation, I too have similar experienced last 2014, I got extrme pain on my left arm going up to the left shoulder it shocks my cause I cant lift heavy weights anymore. Until now my left tricep still smaller compared to my right.
this condition absolutely sucks!!!!! felt like a pinched nerve on my neck with some weird sensation/numbess going thru under my arm on my right/dominant side. no pain. significant loss of strength thru tricep and pec. bench pressing has become embarassing! compensate with push ups, even thats a struggle. love pull ups and thats a struggle also. its been about 1month for me already.
Same thing happened to me and the muscle and strength loss is rapid. It started with a pinched nerve on neck and left side of shoulder down to tricep. Muscles twitched and pins and needles in left arm and fingers. Plus with gym closed during lockdown the muscles in my left arm and and left lat has decreased considerably compared to the right arm. Plus there's no strength left in the left arm and can't balance dumbbell exercises properly like dumbbell bench press, shoulder press etc. Been back at the gym a few weeks in this condition and the strenghts is coming back slowly. I'm hoping the muscle mass comes back too. Its like being a complete beginner again in terms of strength and technique regarding a balanced rep.
Dude, I totally feel your pain. I have had 7 years of dull to severe pain in my left shoulder. I am an avid bodybuilder so I thought it might be overuse injury. However, I think It was because I vaporized herbs for those years. Also, I believe this is related to nerve-induced epididymitis
I had partial shoulder replacement 2/17/17 and my deltoid is numb and atrophied with severe weakness. I'm 35 and it's a bummer as I was diagnosed with this today 5/11/17. Doc basically said "it will get better on its own" he's the same doc who did the surgery. Kind of skeptical so I'm exploring other options. Had an EMG test which was what confirmed the diagnosis.
Good luck with the recovery Freddie. It was suggested that it was stress that caused my condition, but vaccines, immunisations, surgery (as is your situation) and trauma are thought to be common causes. Cost of EMG here in Oz has put me off having the diagnosis confirmed, but have been advised that the symptoms seem to narrow it down. The rapid atrophy was the give away. I'll keep providing updates to the recovery process.
Chris Drake hi Chris I can now say that the numbness has gone away. Been working on rebuilding the muscle. Still sore, still weak, but it has gotten better. Nowhere near it could be. But I just take it a day at a time. I can do about 1-2 push-ups at this point.
I have had / am having a very similar issue. I am 51 and have been going to the gym with varying degrees of seriousness since I was 15 (I literally ran back from the cinema after watching the second Rambo in 1985 and started to work out in the gym at my boarding school). I’m fortunate to have naturally strong chest and shoulders and so it’s been easier for me than for most men. Life has been pretty busy and so during that time there have been many times during which I’ve had “breaks” of many months to even a year but I’ve always been able to walk in to a gym and be strong, especially given that I’ve lived in China for the last 23 years and people tend not to be large. I’ve never taken any performance enhancing drugs - indeed when I was competing in powerlifting in my early 20s I didn’t even know about protein powder... I’ve been lucky to have never had a serious injury until recently. Rightly or wrongly my strength formed an important part of my internal self-identity although other people were likely not aware of it as I kept it quite separate from my professional life. Starting about 4 years ago I became much more regular about going to the gym and was doing ok by which I mean, for example, that my bench press was back up to 180kg and I was seriously thinking about entering some old-man lifting competitions after I hit 50. I may be wrong but I think that I hurt myself by doing just a couple of reps too many of a heavily weighted incline bench. There may or may not have been someone walking past that I was looking to impress - foolish old man that I am. I had some pretty serious pain (pain at the level that it was all that I could think about) starting about 36 hours after that gym session and lasting for more than 2 months. I immediately suspected it was nerve damage because of the way that the pain moved around from my upper back / shoulder blade, shoulder, tricep, forearm and sometime, ludicrously, only in my little finger. The pain would come and go but it was not linked to movement of any kind. I had real problems sleeping and had to sleep propped up on a beanbag for months. As I was living in China I had a lot of cupping and acupuncture but I had difficulty getting doctors to take it seriously as there was no pain when they moved my joints around in their examination rooms. After perhaps 4 months I went back into the gym. I couldn’t lift 90kg on the bench and there was a clear difference between the left and right sides, the right being my formerly dominant side. Of course I hoped that it was just the result of being out of the gym for a while but it was quite different from other times that I had had a break. People laughed because to them I still looked and seemed pretty strong especially given that I was nearly 50 but something was very different. Then COVID came along (starting Jan 2020 in China) and there were huge and stressful problems with my business that ended up losing me millions. I didn’t go to the gym until about a month ago (15 months). Of course I hoped that this extreme “rest” would have solved the problem but it’s still clearly there and I can barely bench above 100kg. There is no pain at all and everything works fine on lighter weights but it’s as if when I try to shift gears to lift something heavier then there is just no higher gear there. The problem seems to be isolated now in the right tricep and manifests itself in an inability to complete the last phase of the movement on the right side. My left side is clearly much stronger than my normally dominant right side. It also feels as if somehow messages are just not getting through to my right tricep or that it’s getting the message more slowly than the left side. A bit humiliating frankly yesterday as i struggled to lock out and complete a weight that would have been one of my warm ups before. Of course all that people can see is an old man trying to lift more than he ought to. I’m very glad to have found your thread.
Do you have stingers or burners in your neck area to your shoulder? How long do the stingers/ burners last? Does it come out of no where lasting for seconds and then disappearing? Is your neck and shoulder constantly tight and sore with trigger knots? When you have the stinging sensation does it cause your neck and shoulder muscles to spasm? Is it worse with activity or anything strenuous? Has it caused any part of your arm to spasm or go numb in your digits? Sorry, for all the questions. I've had these symptoms for ten years with no relief and the VA doctors don't have an answer except fibromyalgia and two bulging discs with DJD. It started with a six foot fall onto my neck and shoulder. It only effects my right side of my neck and shoulder. My other shoulder doesn't have these nerve symptoms. Just muscle knots, and tense all the time in both shoulders. I'm just so fed up with this awful sensation and I was wondering if you have these issues too. I can't do pushups, pull-ups, or lift anything heavy or reach for things that are higher than me in the cupboard. I'm trying to figure this out and take matters into my own hands with some knowledge to present to my general NP. I'm getting tired of being passed around like a joint at a Grateful dead concert. No one seems to have an answer. So any feed back would great. Thank you
I havent done any weightlifting in 2 months now due to shoulder pain. I had a small tingle that went from bad to worse over time and still lifting weights.. my shoulder swelled up and it was painful to move around after my last time doing a heavy workout. I definitely had pinched nerves because i felt lingering static like sensations and numbness on my shoulder and according to personal trainers, that is a symptom of nerve interference and pinching.... lucky to say i dont have any serious rotator cuff i jury or serious tears on my tendons, i did all the tests that people recommend to see if you have rotator cuff tears or frozen shoulder.. anyways, two months and one week now and i am doing rehabilitation exercises and daily vitamin takes and eating healthy meals and drinking protein shakes with spirulina and collagen powder with creatine. And frequently using pain relief ointments and lotions (arnica preferred) and dosages of turmeric powder with black pepper. I did have muscle loss on my left arm and shoulder, my deltoid flattened a bit while my right is still round. But little by little the rehabilitation exercises and minor stretching is helping and is not as painful as before.. i recently purchased a bottle called repair gold supplement which was said to help the body boost recovery and repair any damaged muscle or tissues from ligaments or tendons. Crazy to say not even a day after taking that supplement, my tingling pain isnt as bad as the day before but its still there. I just need to continue the routine i am under, i slowly feel as if it's on the process of healing more and more. And i guess having some muscle atrophy although its bad for us weight lifters, i can somewhat help in having more space to allow nerves and blood vessels and veins to not be under pressure. From my current experience having this as my first actual major injury (tendonitis and bursitis and deltoid tear)after a few years or lifting is to spend more time warming up and doing warmup reps before going to the heavy weights once i get back into it and fully recover... i would also recommend to take anti inflammatory medication to help any muscle or tendon swelling which is the cause of nerve pain or circulation, use pain creams and of course ibuprofen or aspirin but be aware of overdose. Also drink plenty of water and do breathing exercises to help circulation. I strongly recommend turmeric in the recovery process, it helps regenerate nerve damage and inflammation. I still feel a small tingle and minor aches from certain movements but i feel the improvement little by little and i can feel the revival sensation on my left arm from shoulder to fingers ... i will continue to do rehabilitation exercises and avoid any and all weights until further notice and all symptoms are gone. I had say i am glad to have more improved movement on my rotator cuff but i wont do any weights until i get the full clear on that... i most likely will have to start all over again once a return to weightlifting meaning light weight only and slowly doing more weight. proper form , more stretching and rest with higher nutrient intake and deep tissue massage. To conclude, my personal trainer says tingling and pinching of muscles and nerves usually come from inflammation or illness causing pain and swelling of muscles or tendons that lead to nerve pain or muscle weakness and pain. Most of us heavy weight lifters usually always let our lifting ego get the best of us and wont stop until the day we trully feel pain or fail to do the little but very important exercises that we dont work out on when lifting heavyweights. Maintain proper form and posture at all times and wear a sling to not let your arm hang because that keeps the trap muscle active and nerves can be compressed. Also i was recommended to to alot of rear shoulder exercises to help with muscular balance on the shoulders , do alot of rotator cuff exercises and face pulls, and for future reference for anyone feeling the slightest tingle or discomforton any part of your body and you are a weight lifter is to stop immediately and adress it asap before further injury. Most of us do more heavy pushing and less pulling allowing misalignment on shoulder structure. Other than that i will continue my road to recovery and getting back to what i love most and that is pumping iron lol, hopefully your recovery goes well also. I know it can be depressing going day after day of no workout or seeing others lift weights while we sit on the side doing rehab exercises but eventually it'll be better and maybe even better knowing rehab made tendons and muscles more flexible and better circulated than before.
I have the same injury as you man. I lost 60% of my size in my right tricep, right delt, and right pec. Happened in 2015 and still not 100% back. I've bought just about every neck decompression tool on amazon, but nothing has really worked. I went from hitting 315x3 on bench when before it happened to barely hitting 135. I find myself literally stretching my neck after every set at the gym to this day. I think i injured myself in my sleep too because I can't recall really anything happening. Literally walked in the gym one day and my strength was completely gone. I get the numbness in my right hand too a lot, especally when training arms. I cant find a fix anywhere, so if anyone knows what could help it would be greatly appreciated.
Gromp's Gaming How’s your pulling strength? Because I’m experiencing something similar. My right side is completely fucked when it comes to pushing any weight, but if I can still push the weight like doing rows or pull-ups etc.
This is exactly what happened to me, 45 years old. Went to bed feeling fine, was in great shape and woke up with horrible pain and weaknesses in my right shoulder and triceps, I will be 53 and I feel ok now but my right arm is a bit smaller still. Sucks,
@@michaellance3884 I can't say my pulling strength was effected much if any at all. My bicep/back strength remained the same, but any pushing movement was a night/day difference.
I keep training with a lot lighter weights now the weight is dictated by my weak side switched to cables and dumbbells also 3 sessions a week of bands stretching and other normal stretch my only advise is don’t rush it just take one session at a time with positive and before you know it boom! Strength finally back. One more advise keep the form correct as you slowly getting stronger or your weak side might develop some muscles bigger than others as I found. Because some areas are weak therefore other secondary muscles are playing more part than the ones you’re targeting. Full range motion and slow down the pace so you can feel the muscles you’re targeting also go between 12 - 20 so the weight should be fairly light.
I would really like to hear an update to this issue... i had almost the type of injury to me. Although i had always had cramping/tightness in my traps/mid back area.. one night i was awoken to a sharp pain in my back almost like someone had kicked me. Then the next day I had the worst pain in that area, and it lasted for almost a week. Then my elbow/tricep would hurt with any type of cold air. Then for a couple weeks after this, my Index, Middle & Ring finger would go numb. I even noticed the size difference from my opposite arm, very obvious but I also did notice that the affected area, above my elbow looked/felt like a bruise. Then the twitching started, in my pectoral and tricep area. Now i thought it was a pinched nerve in my neck & tried to do acupuncture, cupping, massage therapy & basically anything I could think of... TIll my Dr finally prescribed meds for my twitching & pain, which helped 100%. But again, during all this time, i had the same issue with strength. My Tricep dips 12X's, w/70lb dumbbell went to Zero tricep dip. My bench press was 235lbs 8 reps, went down to 65lbs maybe 5 reps. It's been since Nov 16, 2018, this has happened & now I'm slowly gaining strength back. But I estimate I'm about 65% of my normal strength before my injury... very frustrating & wish i knew what may be the case. Great video, hope your making progress as well...
Wauw I have te same. Pain in my shoulder and neck and lost like 60% of my strength. Especially with presses and pull ups. How did you recover and did you went to fysiotherapie? I did dry needling and that helped me the most.
@@Nandocupra I can't recall the meds i was prescribed. Its been a bit too long for me to remember. But what i can say is that after all the meds, accupuncture, cupping, heat therapy, etc.. i finally had a CT scan & it revealed that i had compressed in my T4&T5, T5&T6 discs.. which meant i had to get a arthroplasty (cervical disc replacement) surgery to replace them both. It has been since Nov 16, 2019 & i'm slowly getting my strength back. its estimated that 1 yr - 18 months till i get a full recovery. I still have size difference on both sides (Left arm flex 16" & Right arm flex 15") but i can feel myself gaining strength each week. Hopefully in another 6-10 months i can gain complete strength again.
Parsonage turner, bilateral brachial neuritis help Good morning, I am currently trawling through the internet for similar occurances of brachial neuritis as I have also sustained the injury in both shoulders. I am a serving Royal Marine, and am adamant that the cause was through weight lifting and gym circuits. I was deployed on an exercise and was fairly fit and healthy, I attended a circuit session led by a Russian Gym instructor, and although I felt a bit stiff afterwards I put this down to hard work. I woke around 4am with the worst pain in my shoulders and arms, I couldn't get comfortable and it felt like I had a trapped nerve in my neck. I tried to have a shower but was unable to lift my hands to my head, and when I did attempt this I would get awefully painful, almost electric shocks through my arms particularly under the arm pit and elbow crook. I found a doctor who thought it was a nerve impingement as it was affecting both arms. Winged scapulars. Long story short, MRI, EMG, diagnosis myalargic amyatrophy, or parsonage turner, or bilateral brachial neuritis. I managed to finally see a specialist in Birmingham UK, and am pencilled in for two nerve graft operations in my shoulders. The reason I am trying to find more info is that I personally believe there was a direct link between the physical exercise and the injury, however when I tried to claim through the military compensation scheme it was declined as they said the condition has no known cause, and that the gym activity was 'incidental'. As you can imagine I am facing a short end to a full career in the military because of this and feel that they have washed their hands with it. I intend to appeal, but need to gather more evidence to support my case that the activity was a factor as I was otherwise fine before it. Any help would be great, the exercises I remember we're over head press, press ups, planks, cat licks (press up but with a fluid down and up motion) and med ball presses to the front, to name but a few
I was doing heavy squats when it happened to me. Found out I’d herniated a disk in my neck but waited too long before having the surgery for a full recovery. Really changed my life for the worse as I’d been weightlifting for over 20 years and it felt taken away like this kid says in his vid. I can say this. The earlier the diagnosis the better off you’ll be. Good luck.
Or it could have been cervical radiculopathy. My arms went from 18 inches to 16 inches and my right shoulder fatigues quickly. I'm old now so that doesn't help either.
Bro i have the same issue.. right triceps right lat right pec atrophied right after i suffered from a c5c6 c7 slipped disc.. my arm index fingers is numb .. it has been 3rd month now.. training it is not the same anymore.. you can see the weakness from the right arm cause the nerve is not firing to contract the muscles activation.. my chiropractor said it is due to nerve impingement from the disc.. it will take time to heal it seems meanwhile she suggested me keep exercising to keep the muscles from atrophy even further .. it sucks man i know that feeling..
Hi Chris, I am experiencing same in my left arm since last 20 days. My pain subsidies a lot but I strength in my left arm is very much less , also the feeling of arm is also different , Can I continue with workout with small weights. Is it advisable?
This is 100% what i have now, currently waiting for the nerve test now, guys how long did it take to get the size and strength back? At this stage 99% om my time i research this.
Similar 2017 shingles on back. Chest started pumping uncontrollably then the top went limp. 2020 my tricep and hand. And now my left calf. Some herniated discs but doctors say they are nothing. I’m looking into TOS and tight neck muscles. Leg probably tight glutes. Does it ever grow back or even out?
I have recovered from this 18 months later mine happened from watching shows on the iPad in bed and one morning woke up with stiff neck and days later tingling burning sensation running down arm to pinky and one next to it. Couldn’t throw a basketball lat muscles triceps and pecs all on right side slowly diminishing and it was scary Now I keep going to the gym switched to dumbbells and cables do lots of band exercises as well targeting these areas and do lots of stretches. When doing exercises lighten up the weight do 12-20 reps full range of motion with slowly pace so your mind can retrigger these areas. Don’t rush take one session at a time with positive don’t be discouraged. As the saying goes USE IT OR LOSE IT. cheers
I had my C5 disc herniated in my neck.my right neck muscle and my right tricep are smaller then my left. Would this be considered the same thing as to what you are referring to? It's been a little over a year now and I go to the gym 3 to 5 days a week for the last 4 years. Plus I experience the weakness in my right side also.
Do we know if Chris's condition improved at all? I've had the exact same thing but in my Left tricep, pec, and trap. Tricep is by far the worst. I had neck surgery about 6 years ago and it's only come back about 70%.
Byron King sane exact thing for me recently. Got the shooting pain and numb fingers ... immediately went to acupuncture . Added turmeric for inflammation and b12 and b2 for nerves. Also visited a chiropractor once. Acupuncture seemed to help. In addition to rest and ice and heat and a copper compression sleeve, the pain is diminished. My strength in my pec and tricep are about 30% where they were.... frustrating but I’m focusing on light weight and cardio and hoping to heal quickly. Good luck
RC Wolhar I’m sorry man. I’ve done so much research on this over the last 6 years. I’ve pretty much given up on working out. It’s just not the same anymore which really blows. Of all the people that report this, I never see anything after it’s been 6 months or more. Brachial Neuritis is an autoimmune disorder. Did you have a flu or whooping cough vaccine in the last month or two? There’s a direct correlation between the two. Government pays out big bucks if so. Everything I’ve read states most recover in 1-3 years but I’ve never run across anyone who can tell me they’re fully recovered.
I had a pinched nerve. Caused numbness in the hands and pec and tricep and lat weakness....I didn’t realize Brachial Nueritis was even a thing. Shit. I need to see a doctor then. Does it stem from a pinched nerve? And thanks for the response . Sorry you are unable to work out .
RC Wolhar look up the symptoms for Brachial Neuritis and see if it lines up with what you’re experiencing. I was told I had a pinched nerve also due to two herniated discs but surgery did nothing. I didn’t have weakness in my lat. Mine was left pec, trap, and tricep. My left arm is still one inch smaller than my right. If you want to discuss in more detail I’m happy to chat with you. Getting on it ASAP is your best bet. I can share with you what I did right as well as some of the mistakes I made.
Hey man. Currently suffering from something very similar, left arm (dominant arm) and deltoid n pecs smaller than right. Wanted to know if you were able to recover mass and strength?
Thanks for video , have the same thing, been about 1.5 yrs in with still significant difference in my right side vs left, although slowly improving. Been struggling to find good physio who can help with this condition.
Thanks for the comment Hani. I will soon post a video where I discuss the specific physio appointed exercises that I am doing at the moment to help with recovery
Chris Drake pls do..my left biceps are significantly smaller and I still feel pain in my neck and left shoulders after an accidental that brought about muscle wasting
Hi cris this all sounds similar to what I going through the mo . I'm a 28 year old male was weightlifting 6 days a week up till two months ago . One Sunday on rest day I experienced neck ache and headache thought it was the usual tight neck nothing else .Went back to gym was all ok till shoulder day I came to doing shrugs and I could only shrug my left arm when came to upward rows all my strength was gone to . That's when I realised I couldn't tense my trap muscle at all on the right side . So went to see a pt they said spinal accessory nerve damage though I haven't injured myself lately the pt said I should see neurologist so I did .and had emg and MRI done one test came back as right upper trunk plexopathy with slight reinervation from c5 c6 just waiting on MRI results now . I have severe atrophy of my right trapezius and my scapula is winging . Was wondering can brachial neuritis affect trapezius or spinal accessory nerve or if you encountered any of these symptoms. Sorry to quiz you on this just scary shit and wanna get back to gym pushing weights again but been told not to the mo 😤 Thanks rick
mudrat rick sounds like I could have written this myself all happened almost exactly the same for me on 6th November 17 having second MRI tomorrow but shoulder specialist and physiotherapist have both said I have parsonage Turner syndrome, right shoulder almost shrunken away can't lift arm, paralysis from elbow to shoulder since November, absolutely devastated not sure what treatment will be but encouraging to see that it is recoverable..
Yes I did. Started with a pinched nerve on neck and left side of shoulder down to tricep. Muscles twitched and pins and needles in left arm and fingers. Plus with gym closed during lockdown the muscles in my left arm and and left lat has decreased considerably compared to the right arm. Plus there's no strength left in the left arm and can't balance dumbbell exercises properly like dumbbell bench press, shoulder press etc. Been back at the gym a few weeks in this condition and the strenghts is coming back slowly. I'm hoping the muscle mass comes back too.
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I appreciate you sharing your experience. I woke up with all the symptoms you present with and I lost considerable strength to left tricep and upper pec. It’s also considerably atrophied in comparison to my right side. I literally cried after I went back to the gym. I couldn’t believe the 75% loss in strength and the inability for my tricep and pec to fire up and engage. I feel devastated but I still continue to work out hard and I’m hope that my strength and size will come back. It’s been 6 months and I’m getting stronger but not nearly as where I was before this unfortunate event.
Hey there, İ got this right before New years eve 23/24 and still am dealing with weakness in both shoulders. İ am so so so glad to read comments like yours so İ feel like i am not alone.
Wishing you and all the others all the best, lots of strength and patience!
I feel like this comment was written by me. First day back in the gym was devastating when my left side collapsed during what was meant to be a warm-up set on the bench press.
Do any of you guys have muscle twitches?
I've read some possible healing properties of a ketogenic diet for PTS. I was diagnosed 4 months ago. Right thumb is still numb...can't fully reach over my head with right arm... overall energy is still quite low... I struggle with basic daily activities... has anyone tried keto to help healing? Grateful for these videos and comments from others who have PTS
I’m a 16 year old suffering from muscle atrophy and weakness across my right side as well, mainly affecting my right bicep, pec, and lower lat. This was due to a labor error, life is great.
ur not alone i'm the exact same way
I was diagnosed with cervical radiculopothy which is a pinched nerve in the neck, it’s cause sever pain in your chest, down your arm and into the tips of your pinky and ring finger. My symptoms subsided after 3 weeks of seeing a chiropractor and massage therapy once a week. I herniated the disc that caused the pain training jiu Jitsu and boxing. I’ve lost almost all the strength in my right arm and my right pec has shrunk so badly it’s embarrassing to take my shirt off. This is how I ended up here and I look forward to following your recovery, I wish you the best and thank you very much for your hard work and sharing what your learning.
I developed brachial neuritis after receiving my 2 COVID shots into my right arm. Apparently 15% of all reported cases are caused by any kind of vaccinations. The initial pain was excruciating and my doctor put me on painkiller and anti inflammatory drugs but after one month the pain has somewhat subsided but my arm and thumb are still numb and my muscles are weakened. I am doing daily exercises in order to speed up the recovery time.
Experiencing similar symptoms- got vaccine on my left arm but started noticing the weakness couple of months after. Noticeable bicep shrinkage, weakness BUT no pain, no tingling or numbness. MRI was clean. EmG showed nerve damage. What’s your status?
Wellcaptured I have no more pain, which is a huge relief. However, my thumb and skin still feels slightly numb. Regained some of the muscle strength but still only 60-70% what it was before.
Comment allez vous aujourd’hui ?
@@babilov919 no further improvements…..I am still experiencing numbness and weakness in my arm all the way into my middle finger. I learned to live with it. 😒
I just experienced this same issue happen to me about 4 weeks ago during a heavy deadlift. It wasn’t the weight that caused the issue but rather the bounce/impact from the floor as I held on to the bar. The rebound threw my left shoulder back and I immediately felt as though I had paralyzed my neck. Everything in my neck became real stiff - I couldn’t look up or down or left or right. My neck had to stay in a neutral position at all times, otherwise the already excruciating pain would become unbearable. This affected my left arm, which is my dominant side - also very common according to research. I couldn’t sleep for close to two weeks straight, due to nerve pain down my arm and around my shoulder and scapula. It was the worst experience I’ve ever had. After about two weeks the pain finally subsided but I noticed I had nearly no function in my lower lat, tricep and pec muscle. This was a sign that it was PTS. Those three particular muscle groups wouldn’t fire/engage at all. They also atrophied right away. Seeing all of this happen was devastating and scary being that I am a very fit and strong individual, who could easily knock out 90 push-ups in two minutes for my Army PT test - now I could manage more than a few reps, and they weren’t pretty. I felt hopeless and lost as I wasn’t sure what it was. I’ve never experienced anything like this before. But I did gain some hope as I started researching and found videos and articles of almost exactly the same symptoms/issues that everyone else was having, self-diagnosing my new found issue - PTS. I’m not sure what lies in my future as far as possible issues like this happening again. The good news is I am noticing strength coming back slowly, which I think it is super important in the recovery process to be active. Resistance training and other “physical therapy-like” exercises to help recover will do wonders. Eliminating stress is also just as important as living a fit and healthy lifestyle, as stress itself can cause things like auto immune diseases, and have been shown to be prevalent and present in people experiencing PTS. I thought I was healthy before this happened to me but this has shown me that my mental healthy, which I wasn’t taking care of, is just as important as my physical health. You really can’t live a healthy life without either. They’re both equally important.
Hello bro. I know it’s been a while that you posted your comment but wondering how you are doing. I experienced the same thing 6 months ago.
Thank you. I have been going through this exact issue! I hope you heal well. I'm gonna start on this today
Thank you for posting this brother, suffering with the same thing. Left pec, biceps and lat is weaker and smaller.
Experiencing the same - left bicep shrinkage, left arm weakness and grip weakness. I don’t have any pain, tingling or numbness. What was your diagnosis?
@@Wellcaptured Nothing, it perplexed every singe doctor and ive been to 2 neurologists, parsonage turner was the only thing that one neurologist said could be the culprit. Damage to the brachial plexus from lifting could have been another, but thats just my deduction.
@@underlordd interesting they are not able to pin point to the cause. Is it getting better with physical therapy or exercise? I am starting to see a bit improvement. BTW Did it start happening after being vaccinated?
@@Wellcaptured No this happened waaaay before COVID, out of the blue, my peck just started to waste away my biceps got smaller and my shoulder shrunk. I kept working out for years after and those areas would never get as good as a pump as the right side. What happened to you? Im curious.
@@underlordd started noticing my left arm and grip becoming weaker couple of months ago. Few weeks later noticed loss of mass in my bicep. No incident, tram-a or injury. Out of nowhere. Got EMG and it came back abnormal. Did a MRI on my cervical and lumbar but didn’t show any severe nerve pinched. Neurologist not able to figure it out. I did notice the change after the vax… I’m doing physical therapy, cold shower (wem hof method) and I’m seeing some positive results.
Thank you for vlog this happened to me about two years ago lost most of my strength and grip on my right side and its been slow going at the gym ever since, I literally couldn't bench a 2 kg dumbell without dropping it have worked up to 12 kg but still notice my pec and tricep is smaller on my right side. Nice to find others struggling with this condition cheers
Bro any recovery?? If u have recovered plzz tell me how
@@kilariteja1926 to be honest mate it's been 2 steps forward 1 step back, plus my consistency in rehab has been sketchy.
I have this problem now I am depressed
This happened to me. My severe pain and numbness lasted about a week. On the affected side I was lifting similar weight to when I first started working out. Took about a year to get back to the numbers I was at before in the gym. Two years later I am stronger than I was when it happened. However I still notice a slight difference in strength compared to my other arm. My Lat was also affected and is noticeably smaller to this day. My lat and tricep seemed most affected, maybe a tiny bit in my pectoral.
Crazy Bear it is so refreshing to hear that you got back to where you were and then some. I’ve been depressed over this for weeks...thank you.
I got diagnosed with PTS and doing rehab now for my left shoulder.
Thanks for sharing. I share similar issues & am very active in the gym. It can be frustrating. My left bicep is the affected muscle. I do extra zottman curls with my left arm to help & preacher curls. Seems to at least keep that area decently active. Best of luck to you!!
This video saved my life . Thank you man.
appreciate this... i may be suffering from the same thing... experienced some bicep pain two weeks ago doing arms & shoulders at the gym... moderate arm pain followed for the next few days. 3 days later, back in the gym, discovered exceptional weakness in triceps, forearm brachialis, and pectoral (all right side, dominant hand)... initally assumed cervical disc herniation but MRI was negative for that... continue to have weakness in affected muscles and going for EMG next week... no noticeable atrophy just yet but i'm pretty sure it's coming - just a bit early still
will continue to follow your progress and update with my own... keep up the videos - it's nice to feel like i'm not alone
Thanks for the comment Greg. Sounds very similar. I only noticed the atrophy (at a guess), about 3-4 weeks in.
Let me know how you go with the EMG, I'd like to see what the results look like!
Greg S bb
@@chrisdrake8103 how are you doing now?
did it pass by?
Did you ever recover?
It’ll be two years with having this in August, I’m very thankful too just have very very slight muscle weakness and no winging, or being paralyzed in the arm. All thought I do have all of the pain I’m very thankful.
Thank you! I suffer from this exact issue following a gym injury while doing a back movement. My pain and numbness in my fingers lasted for almost two months. I have very noticeable atrophy but my strength is increasing. I switched to a German Volume training routine for six weeks. I have also been using electrical stimulation on the affected muscle to force contraction. The affected muscles still do not fire properly. I'm not sure I believe that this is a immune system issue, at least in my case.
Needed this. Except on my left tricep. I've been out of gym for 2 years now. Hoping to get back at it eventually. It's like my entire left lateral tricep wasted away almost completely.
Glad I found this video, I had similar issues . I was working out in the gym doing a shoulder exercise when I felt a burning sensation going through my back main the rhomboid also had tingling and my middle and index finger,it last about two weeks. Afterwards I lost strength on my left side along with weak tricep and muscle loss in my biceps and upper pec . It’s been about 8month and I’m slowly recovering I’m about 70% . I’m using resistance bands to properly warm up my shoulders before and after my workout 4 nights a week before bed I use a tens simulator lastly I’m using peptides to help . Hopefully this helps someone
im 28 in a month and at age 18 i experience weakness in my right hand. it followed by muscle twitching then finally my two smaller fingers limped over and i lost significant amount of muscle in my right hand. it was devastating . i went to a neurologist did mri and emg exams. They found nothing. for the past 10 years i dealt with it i played basketball and copped with a weak and almost cripple right hand..only a few persons in my family know about it . I thought i would be paralyzed by now but the weakness and nerve issues seemed to just attacked my right arm and hand . you cant tell unless you payed close attention or shaked my hand super long....i hope to find a solution as to why this happened to me but i didn't allow it to take over my life.
Hey, did you have twitching in multiple areas, or just in your right arm?
Did you ever get numbness in your arm? I’m dealing with this right now. EMG shows definite nerve issues in my index and thumb. Atrophy is very noticeable. MRI showed nothing though.
I was a big weight lifter very active person so at 22 years old I fell asleep and woke up the next day in most pain over ever felt in my life and it took almost a whole year to have surgery in my should I had a torn labrum but it’s 2 years post op and I’m still in pain same goes for my other shoulder
I feel ya I was down for about a month and now doing girl push-ups just to get my left side working again it’s very difficult especially when you are someone that was in the gym doing well. What’s weird it’s it’s not my dominant side so it’s extra weak but just gotta fight and get back to normal just another challenge
Thank you for sharing all of your experiences. I am trying to find people with PTS who have had nerve transfer surgery. I have PTS and lost never activity specific to the serratus anterior muscle. I experience "scapular winging" and am scheduled to transfer a nerve to enervate the serratus muscle. Hard to find others who have done this. Please let me know if anyone has reached out to you who has had that type of surgery!
Excatally what I am going through. My pec, bicep and tricep got hit hard. I worked out just about everyday, this hit me out of nowhere. I finally went back to the gym after quarantine, as bout 4 months off. I can feel my strength is going back up because my chest muscles activated alot more. I just want my arm size back. Good luck man, I hope things get better for us.
Did it get better
@@brownskingoodnessgold8828 sir it took a year to regain my strength. But I have to say I don't think I will ever be 100%. 97 at most. But thankful that I got back there.
Hey Sha,
Would you have any updates on that ? Got operated on for a hernia and lost my pec and triceps. It looks really weird. Have you gotten your strength and volume back?
I actually recovered to about 95% it took about a year but I can always feel my right side gives out sooner than my left. My muscle balance is back but I will never have full strength I think. Was your surgery due to the syndrome?
I got a herniated disc in my neck (c6-c7) due to wear and tear in judo and BJJ.. it was tough
I'm surprised they didn't see if you have impinged cervical nerves from disc herniation, bulging. Look in to decompress bro. It's been a years I had 19 inch arms and my left arm is approx 16. Pec, lat, serratus, bicep, extensor muscles and my fingers 3-5 are affect. It's been almost a year and I'm not considered recovered. Still can't do much weight and it all started with numbness years earlier, but had been doing therapy for carpelb. The severe pain last approx a month. I have partial paralysis and will be looking in to discectomy.
Hey man how do you look now? I used to be huge smaller now bodybuilding over lol
I got my spine fused and I’m trying to do whatever to fix this shyt
I'm going through this right now. I experienced it after a night where I slept on my shoulder and it was completely anesthetized in the morning. Really scary. I'm now doing deep tissue massage, ice baths and hyperbaric therapy. 1 week in . We'll see how it goes.
How are you now?
Wow, that’s how mine happened I slept and the next day all the pain was there.
Any news?
My left bicep is like 30% smaller after I pinched a nerve in my neck. At first I could barely use it, it's a little better now, but still small.
Hey how are you know? I have a similar situation
@@christiancullen1391 it got better within about 3-4 months. Just had to stretch the neck and the spine out to take the pressure from the spinal disk off the nerve.
Now im a lot better and it's no longer an issue.
Great revelation, I too have similar experienced last 2014, I got extrme pain on my left arm going up to the left shoulder it shocks my cause I cant lift heavy weights anymore. Until now my left tricep still smaller compared to my right.
this condition absolutely sucks!!!!! felt like a pinched nerve on my neck with some weird sensation/numbess going thru under my arm on my right/dominant side. no pain. significant loss of strength thru tricep and pec. bench pressing has become embarassing! compensate with push ups, even thats a struggle. love pull ups and thats a struggle also. its been about 1month for me already.
trumpfan21 have you fully recovered??
How are you doing now, same thing I'm dealing with
@@mikewelsh1088 yes it was about 2months fully recovered. So weird
@@coldduck took about 2 months to fully recover. Dont force it and aggravate it. Just take the time off or do super light weight.
@@locknesscs thanks brother, going to nerve and muscle doctor on the 21st and then I'll have the MRI on the 23rd, will let you know
Just started going through the same man. Gotta admit I’m pretty worried.
Same thing happened to me and the muscle and strength loss is rapid. It started with a pinched nerve on neck and left side of shoulder down to tricep. Muscles twitched and pins and needles in left arm and fingers.
Plus with gym closed during lockdown the muscles in my left arm and and left lat has decreased considerably compared to the right arm. Plus there's no strength left in the left arm and can't balance dumbbell exercises properly like dumbbell bench press, shoulder press etc.
Been back at the gym a few weeks in this condition and the strenghts is coming back slowly. I'm hoping the muscle mass comes back too.
Its like being a complete beginner again in terms of strength and technique regarding a balanced rep.
Same situation can u tell me how to gain my left tricep strength
Did you ever recover?
Dude, I totally feel your pain. I have had 7 years of dull to severe pain in my left shoulder. I am an avid bodybuilder so I thought it might be overuse injury. However, I think It was because I vaporized herbs for those years. Also, I believe this is related to nerve-induced epididymitis
I had partial shoulder replacement 2/17/17 and my deltoid is numb and atrophied with severe weakness. I'm 35 and it's a bummer as I was diagnosed with this today 5/11/17. Doc basically said "it will get better on its own" he's the same doc who did the surgery. Kind of skeptical so I'm exploring other options. Had an EMG test which was what confirmed the diagnosis.
Good luck with the recovery Freddie. It was suggested that it was stress that caused my condition, but vaccines, immunisations, surgery (as is your situation) and trauma are thought to be common causes. Cost of EMG here in Oz has put me off having the diagnosis confirmed, but have been advised that the symptoms seem to narrow it down. The rapid atrophy was the give away. I'll keep providing updates to the recovery process.
Chris Drake hi Chris I can now say that the numbness has gone away. Been working on rebuilding the muscle. Still sore, still weak, but it has gotten better. Nowhere near it could be. But I just take it a day at a time. I can do about 1-2 push-ups at this point.
Any update sir I have the same thing
I have had / am having a very similar issue.
I am 51 and have been going to the gym with varying degrees of seriousness since I was 15 (I literally ran back from the cinema after watching the second Rambo in 1985 and started to work out in the gym at my boarding school). I’m fortunate to have naturally strong chest and shoulders and so it’s been easier for me than for most men. Life has been pretty busy and so during that time there have been many times during which I’ve had “breaks” of many months to even a year but I’ve always been able to walk in to a gym and be strong, especially given that I’ve lived in China for the last 23 years and people tend not to be large. I’ve never taken any performance enhancing drugs - indeed when I was competing in powerlifting in my early 20s I didn’t even know about protein powder... I’ve been lucky to have never had a serious injury until recently.
Rightly or wrongly my strength formed an important part of my internal self-identity although other people were likely not aware of it as I kept it quite separate from my professional life.
Starting about 4 years ago I became much more regular about going to the gym and was doing ok by which I mean, for example, that my bench press was back up to 180kg and I was seriously thinking about entering some old-man lifting competitions after I hit 50.
I may be wrong but I think that I hurt myself by doing just a couple of reps too many of a heavily weighted incline bench. There may or may not have been someone walking past that I was looking to impress - foolish old man that I am.
I had some pretty serious pain (pain at the level that it was all that I could think about) starting about 36 hours after that gym session and lasting for more than 2 months. I immediately suspected it was nerve damage because of the way that the pain moved around from my upper back / shoulder blade, shoulder, tricep, forearm and sometime, ludicrously, only in my little finger. The pain would come and go but it was not linked to movement of any kind. I had real problems sleeping and had to sleep propped up on a beanbag for months.
As I was living in China I had a lot of cupping and acupuncture but I had difficulty getting doctors to take it seriously as there was no pain when they moved my joints around in their examination rooms.
After perhaps 4 months I went back into the gym. I couldn’t lift 90kg on the bench and there was a clear difference between the left and right sides, the right being my formerly dominant side.
Of course I hoped that it was just the result of being out of the gym for a while but it was quite different from other times that I had had a break. People laughed because to them I still looked and seemed pretty strong especially given that I was nearly 50 but something was very different. Then COVID came along (starting Jan 2020 in China) and there were huge and stressful problems with my business that ended up losing me millions. I didn’t go to the gym until about a month ago (15 months). Of course I hoped that this extreme “rest” would have solved the problem but it’s still clearly there and I can barely bench above 100kg.
There is no pain at all and everything works fine on lighter weights but it’s as if when I try to shift gears to lift something heavier then there is just no higher gear there. The problem seems to be isolated now in the right tricep and manifests itself in an inability to complete the last phase of the movement on the right side. My left side is clearly much stronger than my normally dominant right side. It also feels as if somehow messages are just not getting through to my right tricep or that it’s getting the message more slowly than the left side.
A bit humiliating frankly yesterday as i struggled to lock out and complete a weight that would have been one of my warm ups before. Of course all that people can see is an old man trying to lift more than he ought to.
I’m very glad to have found your thread.
Do you have stingers or burners in your neck area to your shoulder? How long do the stingers/ burners last? Does it come out of no where lasting for seconds and then disappearing? Is your neck and shoulder constantly tight and sore with trigger knots? When you have the stinging sensation does it cause your neck and shoulder muscles to spasm? Is it worse with activity or anything strenuous? Has it caused any part of your arm to spasm or go numb in your digits?
Sorry, for all the questions. I've had these symptoms for ten years with no relief and the VA doctors don't have an answer except fibromyalgia and two bulging discs with DJD. It started with a six foot fall onto my neck and shoulder. It only effects my right side of my neck and shoulder. My other shoulder doesn't have these nerve symptoms. Just muscle knots, and tense all the time in both shoulders. I'm just so fed up with this awful sensation and I was wondering if you have these issues too. I can't do pushups, pull-ups, or lift anything heavy or reach for things that are higher than me in the cupboard.
I'm trying to figure this out and take matters into my own hands with some knowledge to present to my general NP. I'm getting tired of being passed around like a joint at a Grateful dead concert. No one seems to have an answer. So any feed back would great. Thank you
I havent done any weightlifting in 2 months now due to shoulder pain. I had a small tingle that went from bad to worse over time and still lifting weights.. my shoulder swelled up and it was painful to move around after my last time doing a heavy workout. I definitely had pinched nerves because i felt lingering static like sensations and numbness on my shoulder and according to personal trainers, that is a symptom of nerve interference and pinching.... lucky to say i dont have any serious rotator cuff i jury or serious tears on my tendons, i did all the tests that people recommend to see if you have rotator cuff tears or frozen shoulder.. anyways, two months and one week now and i am doing rehabilitation exercises and daily vitamin takes and eating healthy meals and drinking protein shakes with spirulina and collagen powder with creatine. And frequently using pain relief ointments and lotions (arnica preferred) and dosages of turmeric powder with black pepper. I did have muscle loss on my left arm and shoulder, my deltoid flattened a bit while my right is still round. But little by little the rehabilitation exercises and minor stretching is helping and is not as painful as before.. i recently purchased a bottle called repair gold supplement which was said to help the body boost recovery and repair any damaged muscle or tissues from ligaments or tendons. Crazy to say not even a day after taking that supplement, my tingling pain isnt as bad as the day before but its still there. I just need to continue the routine i am under, i slowly feel as if it's on the process of healing more and more. And i guess having some muscle atrophy although its bad for us weight lifters, i can somewhat help in having more space to allow nerves and blood vessels and veins to not be under pressure. From my current experience having this as my first actual major injury (tendonitis and bursitis and deltoid tear)after a few years or lifting is to spend more time warming up and doing warmup reps before going to the heavy weights once i get back into it and fully recover... i would also recommend to take anti inflammatory medication to help any muscle or tendon swelling which is the cause of nerve pain or circulation, use pain creams and of course ibuprofen or aspirin but be aware of overdose. Also drink plenty of water and do breathing exercises to help circulation. I strongly recommend turmeric in the recovery process, it helps regenerate nerve damage and inflammation. I still feel a small tingle and minor aches from certain movements but i feel the improvement little by little and i can feel the revival sensation on my left arm from shoulder to fingers ... i will continue to do rehabilitation exercises and avoid any and all weights until further notice and all symptoms are gone. I had say i am glad to have more improved movement on my rotator cuff but i wont do any weights until i get the full clear on that... i most likely will have to start all over again once a return to weightlifting meaning light weight only and slowly doing more weight. proper form , more stretching and rest with higher nutrient intake and deep tissue massage. To conclude, my personal trainer says tingling and pinching of muscles and nerves usually come from inflammation or illness causing pain and swelling of muscles or tendons that lead to nerve pain or muscle weakness and pain. Most of us heavy weight lifters usually always let our lifting ego get the best of us and wont stop until the day we trully feel pain or fail to do the little but very important exercises that we dont work out on when lifting heavyweights. Maintain proper form and posture at all times and wear a sling to not let your arm hang because that keeps the trap muscle active and nerves can be compressed. Also i was recommended to to alot of rear shoulder exercises to help with muscular balance on the shoulders , do alot of rotator cuff exercises and face pulls, and for future reference for anyone feeling the slightest tingle or discomforton any part of your body and you are a weight lifter is to stop immediately and adress it asap before further injury. Most of us do more heavy pushing and less pulling allowing misalignment on shoulder structure. Other than that i will continue my road to recovery and getting back to what i love most and that is pumping iron lol, hopefully your recovery goes well also. I know it can be depressing going day after day of no workout or seeing others lift weights while we sit on the side doing rehab exercises but eventually it'll be better and maybe even better knowing rehab made tendons and muscles more flexible and better circulated than before.
I have the same injury as you man. I lost 60% of my size in my right tricep, right delt, and right pec. Happened in 2015 and still not 100% back. I've bought just about every neck decompression tool on amazon, but nothing has really worked. I went from hitting 315x3 on bench when before it happened to barely hitting 135. I find myself literally stretching my neck after every set at the gym to this day. I think i injured myself in my sleep too because I can't recall really anything happening. Literally walked in the gym one day and my strength was completely gone. I get the numbness in my right hand too a lot, especally when training arms. I cant find a fix anywhere, so if anyone knows what could help it would be greatly appreciated.
Gromp's Gaming How’s your pulling strength? Because I’m experiencing something similar. My right side is completely fucked when it comes to pushing any weight, but if I can still push the weight like doing rows or pull-ups etc.
This is exactly what happened to me, 45 years old. Went to bed feeling fine, was in great shape and woke up with horrible pain and weaknesses in my right shoulder and triceps, I will be 53 and I feel ok now but my right arm is a bit smaller still. Sucks,
@@michaellance3884 I can't say my pulling strength was effected much if any at all. My bicep/back strength remained the same, but any pushing movement was a night/day difference.
@@lidh6n8 Please see my reply's in this thread... you sound like you have the same issue i experienced.
Any news now and tips you can give?
Had the same thing fully recovered in 18 months
Gives me some hope.
what did you do?
I keep training with a lot lighter weights now the weight is dictated by my weak side switched to cables and dumbbells also 3 sessions a week of bands stretching and other normal stretch my only advise is don’t rush it just take one session at a time with positive and before you know it boom! Strength finally back.
One more advise keep the form correct as you slowly getting stronger or your weak side might develop some muscles bigger than others as I found. Because some areas are weak therefore other secondary muscles are playing more part than the ones you’re targeting. Full range motion and slow down the pace so you can feel the muscles you’re targeting also go between 12 - 20 so the weight should be fairly light.
I would really like to hear an update to this issue... i had almost the type of injury to me. Although i had always had cramping/tightness in my traps/mid back area.. one night i was awoken to a sharp pain in my back almost like someone had kicked me. Then the next day I had the worst pain in that area, and it lasted for almost a week. Then my elbow/tricep would hurt with any type of cold air. Then for a couple weeks after this, my Index, Middle & Ring finger would go numb. I even noticed the size difference from my opposite arm, very obvious but I also did notice that the affected area, above my elbow looked/felt like a bruise. Then the twitching started, in my pectoral and tricep area. Now i thought it was a pinched nerve in my neck & tried to do acupuncture, cupping, massage therapy & basically anything I could think of... TIll my Dr finally prescribed meds for my twitching & pain, which helped 100%. But again, during all this time, i had the same issue with strength. My Tricep dips 12X's, w/70lb dumbbell went to Zero tricep dip. My bench press was 235lbs 8 reps, went down to 65lbs maybe 5 reps. It's been since Nov 16, 2018, this has happened & now I'm slowly gaining strength back. But I estimate I'm about 65% of my normal strength before my injury... very frustrating & wish i knew what may be the case. Great video, hope your making progress as well...
Can you share what meds you were prescribed for the twitching?
Wauw I have te same. Pain in my shoulder and neck and lost like 60% of my strength. Especially with presses and pull ups. How did you recover and did you went to fysiotherapie? I did dry needling and that helped me the most.
@@Nandocupra I can't recall the meds i was prescribed. Its been a bit too long for me to remember. But what i can say is that after all the meds, accupuncture, cupping, heat therapy, etc.. i finally had a CT scan & it revealed that i had compressed in my T4&T5, T5&T6 discs.. which meant i had to get a arthroplasty (cervical disc replacement) surgery to replace them both. It has been since Nov 16, 2019 & i'm slowly getting my strength back. its estimated that 1 yr - 18 months till i get a full recovery. I still have size difference on both sides (Left arm flex 16" & Right arm flex 15") but i can feel myself gaining strength each week. Hopefully in another 6-10 months i can gain complete strength again.
I'm so paranoid. I strained my arm doing hammer curls a while back. Now idk if my biceps just have an imbalance, or of its atrophy.
I’ve had it for 4 years… my shoulder isn’t developed. My left shoulder is very developed. Guess I’ll be living with this
Parsonage turner, bilateral brachial neuritis help
Good morning, I am currently trawling through the internet for similar occurances of brachial neuritis as I have also sustained the injury in both shoulders. I am a serving Royal Marine, and am adamant that the cause was through weight lifting and gym circuits. I was deployed on an exercise and was fairly fit and healthy, I attended a circuit session led by a Russian Gym instructor, and although I felt a bit stiff afterwards I put this down to hard work. I woke around 4am with the worst pain in my shoulders and arms, I couldn't get comfortable and it felt like I had a trapped nerve in my neck. I tried to have a shower but was unable to lift my hands to my head, and when I did attempt this I would get awefully painful, almost electric shocks through my arms particularly under the arm pit and elbow crook. I found a doctor who thought it was a nerve impingement as it was affecting both arms. Winged scapulars.
Long story short, MRI, EMG, diagnosis myalargic amyatrophy, or parsonage turner, or bilateral brachial neuritis.
I managed to finally see a specialist in Birmingham UK, and am pencilled in for two nerve graft operations in my shoulders.
The reason I am trying to find more info is that I personally believe there was a direct link between the physical exercise and the injury, however when I tried to claim through the military compensation scheme it was declined as they said the condition has no known cause, and that the gym activity was 'incidental'.
As you can imagine I am facing a short end to a full career in the military because of this and feel that they have washed their hands with it. I intend to appeal, but need to gather more evidence to support my case that the activity was a factor as I was otherwise fine before it.
Any help would be great, the exercises I remember we're over head press, press ups, planks, cat licks (press up but with a fluid down and up motion) and med ball presses to the front, to name but a few
I was doing heavy squats when it happened to me. Found out I’d herniated a disk in my neck but waited too long before having the surgery for a full recovery. Really changed my life for the worse as I’d been weightlifting for over 20 years and it felt taken away like this kid says in his vid. I can say this. The earlier the diagnosis the better off you’ll be. Good luck.
Or it could have been cervical radiculopathy. My arms went from 18 inches to 16 inches and my right shoulder fatigues quickly. I'm old now so that doesn't help either.
Bro i have the same issue.. right triceps right lat right pec atrophied right after i suffered from a c5c6 c7 slipped disc.. my arm index fingers is numb .. it has been 3rd month now.. training it is not the same anymore.. you can see the weakness from the right arm cause the nerve is not firing to contract the muscles activation.. my chiropractor said it is due to nerve impingement from the disc.. it will take time to heal it seems meanwhile she suggested me keep exercising to keep the muscles from atrophy even further .. it sucks man i know that feeling..
Chris I am having the same symptoms so I think I have this injury what is your recommendation to do to help PT the affected atrophied muscles back
Admit that it's over and find another sport. I started boxing and skateboarding where strength is not really required.
@@australienski6687 weak ass shit. Don’t become a bitch Jonathan. Keep hammering man!
Hi Chris, I am experiencing same in my left arm since last 20 days. My pain subsidies a lot but I strength in my left arm is very much less , also the feeling of arm is also different , Can I continue with workout with small weights. Is it advisable?
How are you now and do you have your strength back?
Sounds more like a herniated disc at c6-c7... did you ever get a cervical MRI?
stewaer1 im
Waiting for a date to get mine checked!
This is 100% what i have now, currently waiting for the nerve test now, guys how long did it take to get the size and strength back? At this stage 99% om my time i research this.
Similar 2017 shingles on back. Chest started pumping uncontrollably then the top went limp. 2020 my tricep and hand. And now my left calf. Some herniated discs but doctors say they are nothing. I’m looking into TOS and tight neck muscles. Leg probably tight glutes. Does it ever grow back or even out?
I broke my neck 3 years ago my left side now is not symmetrical. My necks fixed now but my muscle in left chest n arm refuse to grow
Can u tell me how to recover from this??
I have recovered from this 18 months later mine happened from watching shows on the iPad in bed and one morning woke up with stiff neck and days later tingling burning sensation running down arm to pinky and one next to it. Couldn’t throw a basketball lat muscles triceps and pecs all on right side slowly diminishing and it was scary
Now I keep going to the gym switched to dumbbells and cables do lots of band exercises as well targeting these areas and do lots of stretches. When doing exercises lighten up the weight do 12-20 reps full range of motion with slowly pace so your mind can retrigger these areas. Don’t rush take one session at a time with positive don’t be discouraged. As the saying goes USE IT OR LOSE IT. cheers
@@Sharleyn2015 thnx bro u gave me a hope
so has the arm fully recovered?
I had my C5 disc herniated in my neck.my right neck muscle and my right tricep are smaller then my left. Would this be considered the same thing as to what you are referring to? It's been a little over a year now and I go to the gym 3 to 5 days a week for the last 4 years. Plus I experience the weakness in my right side also.
Bro are u recovered??? If how??
@Brandon Tomalewski are u recovered?? If recovered plzz tell me how
There is no cure. My arm cracks, I'm afraid of damaging my shoulder.
Do we know if Chris's condition improved at all? I've had the exact same thing but in my Left tricep, pec, and trap. Tricep is by far the worst. I had neck surgery about 6 years ago and it's only come back about 70%.
Byron King sane exact thing for me recently. Got the shooting pain and numb fingers ... immediately went to acupuncture . Added turmeric for inflammation and b12 and b2 for nerves. Also visited a chiropractor once. Acupuncture seemed to help. In addition to rest and ice and heat and a copper compression sleeve, the pain is diminished. My strength in my pec and tricep are about 30% where they were.... frustrating but I’m focusing on light weight and cardio and hoping to heal quickly. Good luck
RC Wolhar I’m sorry man. I’ve done so much research on this over the last 6 years. I’ve pretty much given up on working out. It’s just not the same anymore which really blows. Of all the people that report this, I never see anything after it’s been 6 months or more. Brachial Neuritis is an autoimmune disorder. Did you have a flu or whooping cough vaccine in the last month or two? There’s a direct correlation between the two. Government pays out big bucks if so. Everything I’ve read states most recover in 1-3 years but I’ve never run across anyone who can tell me they’re fully recovered.
RC Wolhar also if you look at Chris Drakes Facebook profile pic it looks like he doesn’t work out anymore either
I had a pinched nerve. Caused numbness in the hands and pec and tricep and lat weakness....I didn’t realize Brachial Nueritis was even a thing. Shit. I need to see a doctor then. Does it stem from a pinched nerve? And thanks for the response . Sorry you are unable to work out .
RC Wolhar look up the symptoms for Brachial Neuritis and see if it lines up with what you’re experiencing. I was told I had a pinched nerve also due to two herniated discs but surgery did nothing. I didn’t have weakness in my lat. Mine was left pec, trap, and tricep. My left arm is still one inch smaller than my right. If you want to discuss in more detail I’m happy to chat with you. Getting on it ASAP is your best bet. I can share with you what I did right as well as some of the mistakes I made.
Hey man. Currently suffering from something very similar, left arm (dominant arm) and deltoid n pecs smaller than right. Wanted to know if you were able to recover mass and strength?
Bro are u recovered??
@@kilariteja1926 hey mate, I'd say 95% there strength wise. Getting back to lifting weights! Gluck man
@@jimbodivots bro my left hand tricep not able to do compress it and not going to move full range of motion and I can't concentrate on my left tricep
And how u got recovered..plz tell me bro...
@@jimbodivots bro plzz tell me how to recover from this??
Thanks for video , have the same thing, been about 1.5 yrs in with still significant difference in my right side vs left, although slowly improving.
Been struggling to find good physio who can help with this condition.
Thanks for the comment Hani.
I will soon post a video where I discuss the specific physio appointed exercises that I am doing at the moment to help with recovery
Chris Drake pls do..my left biceps are significantly smaller and I still feel pain in my neck and left shoulders after an accidental that brought about muscle wasting
Hi cris this all sounds similar to what I going through the mo . I'm a 28 year old male was weightlifting 6 days a week up till two months ago . One Sunday on rest day I experienced neck ache and headache thought it was the usual tight neck nothing else .Went back to gym was all ok till shoulder day I came to doing shrugs and I could only shrug my left arm when came to upward rows all my strength was gone to . That's when I realised I couldn't tense my trap muscle at all on the right side . So went to see a pt they said spinal accessory nerve damage though I haven't injured myself lately the pt said I should see neurologist so I did .and had emg and MRI done one test came back as right upper trunk plexopathy with slight reinervation from c5 c6 just waiting on MRI results now . I have severe atrophy of my right trapezius and my scapula is winging . Was wondering can brachial neuritis affect trapezius or spinal accessory nerve or if you encountered any of these symptoms. Sorry to quiz you on this just scary shit and wanna get back to gym pushing weights again but been told not to the mo 😤
Thanks rick
mudrat rick sounds like I could have written this myself all happened almost exactly the same for me on 6th November 17 having second MRI tomorrow but shoulder specialist and physiotherapist have both said I have parsonage Turner syndrome, right shoulder almost shrunken away can't lift arm, paralysis from elbow to shoulder since November, absolutely devastated not sure what treatment will be but encouraging to see that it is recoverable..
@@stephenbridges2589 did you ever get better ?
Try taking a yoga class for a month,so they can train you on how to stretch your nerves and muscles
Did anyone has muscle twitches with this?
Yes I did. Started with a pinched nerve on neck and left side of shoulder down to tricep. Muscles twitched and pins and needles in left arm and fingers.
Plus with gym closed during lockdown the muscles in my left arm and and left lat has decreased considerably compared to the right arm. Plus there's no strength left in the left arm and can't balance dumbbell exercises properly like dumbbell bench press, shoulder press etc.
Been back at the gym a few weeks in this condition and the strenghts is coming back slowly. I'm hoping the muscle mass comes back too.
@@Micah_Lal Thank you. I’m in the recovery process now, my strength is slowly returning just hoping the bulk comes back to me left tricep.
Same happened with me !! Did you get ur strength back?
i deadass don't have a brachialis
i've had a pinched nerve in my neck for 15 years . Right bicep 1" bigger than left
Flaccid lol