Thanks for the videos man:) Gives me a ton of hope. I’m 4 weeks in with these symptoms and movement is my life. Hope that you feel 100% soon! Let us know :)
Hey... I think I have this condition .. not been diagnosed yet ( seems like it’s hard to get diagnosed ).. I’ve had this for almost 2 months and a ditches Cher’s and tricep exercises and just felt that’s it for me now... benching 150kg but struggle to do 10 push ups ... but after your progression it has inspired me and I think I will train them more and be determined
Heya! I sort of have the same stuff going on. Except, I think it's a herniated disk pressing on the nerve. I'm going for a MRI scan soon. I'm almost unable to use my major pec, part of the tricep that are really really affected. I was wondering if you also had tingling fingers a lot during the day? It all started with a shooting pain in my right shoulder area, after that subsided the tingling started and only got worse every day for about 2 or 3 weeks. That's where I'm at. I'm hardly able to bench or do stuff with my tricep. Freaking me out haha.
i have been suffering with the same issue from last 3 years. couldn't figure out what it is. but your videos really helped understand the cause. and now i am able to plan my workouts and increase recovery. very helpful. still if there any medical treatment which i couldn't find exactly. please do share if you know any.
Hi Chris! I hope all is well. I see this was posted a year ago. I’d love to hear how you’re doing now? My brother was just diagnosed with this. Hope to hear back from you! Thank you for your videos. I appreciate them. :)
I have the same symptoms as you but I was diagnosed with C7 radiculopathy that was caused by disc herniation. Have you ever done MRI of the cervical spine? I had c6-c7 acdf surgery and I am hoping to recover. Not doing as great as you though. My triceps, pecs and lat are still weak and atrophied and I had the symptoms for 8 months now... Cant really workout much because of the surgery but I will change that in the next couple of weeks. Happy for you!
Thanks for sharing your story regarding brachial neuritis - how are you doing now with it? I've been unlucky enough to have had the condition for the last 2 years with ongoing investigation, only to find out a couple of months ago what it was. Being referred to the pain clinic now to help with symptoms but hoping it'll start to get better on its own eventually. I hope you have made a full recovery and managing to train like before.
Did you have any numbing and tingling? I couldn't do one pushup for 3 months after my injury. I'm 1 year and 3 months in and I still have not recovered. Im up to 20 push ups, but I still have severe atrophy on my left side and weakness. But now I have muscle cramping, twitching, and pain, to go along with the weakness and atrophy. I still have numb fingers... Did you get any of that?
i did for about 3 months after the pain subsided... the tip of my right index finger was initially quite numb and very, very slowly recovered sensation. I'm currently 10 months in and I'd say that there is still a slight difference in the perception of touch between my two index fingers but nothing noticeable unless i'm concentrating on it.
OMG, your story is identical to mine, the only difference being that my problems were on the left side. The biggest issue for me was also the triceps, followed by pecs and the lats. For me it’s been about 4.5 months since the onset of the disease. I’ve recovered to about 70% of the previous weight... and similarly to you, I think I also lost strength on the healthy side simply because I wasn’t training it to the max potential. One thing I never did though is take some rest from training. The maximum period without training for me was 2 days. Perhaps this was a mistake? I’m not sure, really. The only other thing I tried is physio with some weird machine which has an immensely strong magnetic field and supposedly helps with nerve recovery. I also did about 30 treatments so far in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber - but I cannot say for sure that both of these two things helped with the recovery... Anyway, would be good to hear of you managed to get back to 100% ... and how much time it took you to get there. It’s such a frustrating injury...
hey Chris... Just wondering where you are with the atrophy you showed in one of your initial videos. Do you feel that you've largely recovered from that as well? I'm about 2 1/2 months in now and atrophy is pretty obvious in the pec, lat, & triceps... Strength is slowly coming back though... at about 2/3rd normal strength on the right side at this point.
my condition is always made worse by lack of eating (IE when i am hungry) stress lack of sleep etc its almost as if its a indicator of when i am doing something that my body does not like
Watched your first vid then this latest one. And I know exactly how you feel. Long story but this unfortunately happened to me, too. I’d gotten some 20 years into weight training when one day while doing super heavy squats I heard and felt an incredible pop/ripping sound/electric charge and feel from my neck. I was never the same again. I didn’t go to have it checked out by a doctor and simply walked it off..even finished the leg workout like a dumbass. Fast forward a month or two and my right arm..right trap..the right side of my neck muscles..right upper chest and right lat all atrophied. At first I started doing extra sets/reps not fully understanding what I’d actually done to myself. After sinking into a bit of a depression I put two and two together and realized it had to have been due to the squatting episode so I had an mri done and found out it was a severely herniated disk. Afterwards I was a bit relieved in that by having it fused my problems would be relieved. The surgery made things worse though. This happened in 2003 and as I tried in vein to get back my body it just wasn’t to be. I am now in pain management and have been forced to find other hobbies. I know the feel of loss. In your first video you stated “I feel like somethings been taken from me”. That is word for word my exact feelings.
This is a debilitating condition for the majority of those who suffer from Neuralgic Amyotrophy. This video unfortunately doesn't represent the majority of people affected by significant neural damage / muscle atrophy. "Just relaxing" and building your way up to 50 push-ups, a few months after the onset of injury, is impossible for most. The true condition leaves the patient with an unparalleled degree of exercise intolerance. Day-to-Day tasks are difficult to manage, and chronic pain lasts for years, if not forever. For those truly suffering from this condition, google the literature on 'neuralgic amyotrophy', and focus on cautiously improving the endurance of your peri-scapular muscles, optimizing posture to avoid compensating strategies, and find a strategic balance between rest & activity.
I have this condition - googled more literature on it than can be imagined. Nowhere have I seen in any credible publication that the majority of people affected by it are left with unparalleled exercise intolerance. Nor have I seen any mention of chronic pain lasting for years in all but the smallest percentage of patients. That said, perhaps you are referring to the hereditary form of this condition?
Greg S here is a good article on some more recent research that shows the long term effects of neuralgic amyotrophy www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19254608/
Read the study. The one issue I have with it is that they did little to differentiate long term results between idiopathic and hereditary NA. Given 89 patients with 22 of them exhibiting the hereditary form of NA, and knowing ahead of time that the hereditary version is often much more severe, long lasting, and most likely to recur, seems to me their results will naturally be skewed to indicate a much worse general prognosis.
in my first week of diagnosis 3 years ago, I was given a saline injection around the inflammed nerve. They used ultrasound to find the nerve, and injected a saline solution around it. It helped tremendously. I asked for more injections, and they said if one dosage didnt give full recovery, then more dosage would be useless. That was the only "drug" i took. Ever since then I did PT, and it didnt help much. Then I was recommended to see another PT with neuromuscular speciality, and they performed this procedure called Vojta Therapy. Its apparently not widely accepted in the US, but practiced in Europe. It helped "a little" and I did it for a few months. Last Summer I had a follow up with my neuromuscular specialist who first diagnosed me, and he said my only remedy is to wait it out until the nerves heal. Time is unfortunately the main solution. There are no drugs, and I was told I dont need surgery. So here I am now just waiting it out. I was told to continue living my life, and not to stop exercising. Ive been swimming 3-4 times a week, and doing martial arts as well. Swimming has helped tremendously. Id say the freestyle catch pulling action helps alleviate the symptoms, and strengthen my right arm/shoulder. Martial arts is hard because my right arm is busted, but I just keep going at it. PTS is painful but dont let it stop your life.
Were you ever diagnosed with PTS by a doctor? Just curious because I was diagnosed when I was 22 and while not much is known about the disorder due to lack of research it still sounds to me like you may be experiencing something else that just sounds somewhat similar to PTS. With PTS the initial onset of symptoms you typically would experience a sudden onset of severe pain (sometimes IV morphine is given initially) and your range of motion is severe limited partially due to pain and partially due to the nerves that are being effective that control movement in the effected limb. I’m not trying to say you don’t have PTS I’m just saying it might not be what you have and you may what do get checked out by a doctor to be safe.
sir I am an Indian and I am suffering from Branchial nuritis since two days in my left arm....... I am not able to stand my arm still in air opposite to the force of gravity as the doctor said that my one muscle is out of power...... NOW WHAT TO DO FOR RECOVERY PLS REPLY SIR
This is my second Branchial nuritis.......... so the doctor said me for physiotherapy and a test called EMG/NCV which is painful. But I want no pain but gain pls reply sir
Hello Anu, What I can tell you is from my own experience... The EMG is a useful test and not as painful as it is made out to be so go get the test. The best medication I took for pain was a corticosteroid called Prednisone - ask your doctor if he can prescribe this for you. Recovery is variable for everyone - it takes time and patience moreso than anything... The good news is that most people recover 100% eventually.
no problem - feel free to contact me via email (address in my response to video above... trying to put together a small support group - recovery is a long road it seems... frustrating at the very least
These exercises work amazing to help reduce the pressure that is on the brachial plexus nerves. th-cam.com/video/q5SsM9PWWYc/w-d-xo.html I had this exact same condition 10 years ago and I eventually found that neck and shoulder stretches with deep tissue massage in the sub scapular region helped immensely. Most of the peeps I’ve spoken to who have had this were athletes and most were weight lifters like us. I firmly believe that this is more of a nerve entrapment syndrome that comes about from overdeveloping certain muscles in the shoulder and sub scapular region. The stretching & massages in conjunction with continued training definitely work.
Really encouraging to see this... I'm about 6 weeks into it and really very frustrated... Got back a bit of strength fairly quickly but progress lately has been very slow... I'm going to keep grinding it out and hope for a speedy recovery like yours. From what I gather though, time to full recovery varies pretty widely so I'm trying to keep my hopes high and expectations low. Still looking forward to chatting offline with you or anyone else dealing with this. I can be reached at gmshebert via yahoo mail.
Please make an updated. You are inspiring so many who have lost hope
@Andrelina Scott thank you. God bless you too
Its been three years, have you fully recovered?
Thanks for the videos man:)
Gives me a ton of hope. I’m 4 weeks in with these symptoms and movement is my life.
Hope that you feel 100% soon! Let us know :)
Peter Barlow how did everything turn out?
could you give us any updates now in 2022 if u recovered fully any new tips because i am becoming suicidal
Excellent news, brother! Glad you smashed that goal. I've experience similar progress with my brachial neuritis.
Adam Yo thanks mate, glad you're seeing progress too! Happy to feel like I'm actually getting a workout when I'm at the gym
Hey... I think I have this condition .. not been diagnosed yet ( seems like it’s hard to get diagnosed ).. I’ve had this for almost 2 months and a ditches Cher’s and tricep exercises and just felt that’s it for me now... benching 150kg but struggle to do 10 push ups ... but after your progression it has inspired me and I think I will train them more and be determined
Hey man how u doin? im currently experiencing the EXACT same thing as you did and im wondering how you recovered?
All the best for you! Dealing with it for 4 months now, its slowly getting better. You will get back in track!
Hi mate, great videos. How are you now?
Hi Chris could u let me know how recovery is. I have simular issues. Chest n arm right side. Thank u.
i think that i have branchial neuritis but i have it on both of my arms and im motivated to start a treatment by watching your videos
Heya! I sort of have the same stuff going on. Except, I think it's a herniated disk pressing on the nerve. I'm going for a MRI scan soon. I'm almost unable to use my major pec, part of the tricep that are really really affected. I was wondering if you also had tingling fingers a lot during the day? It all started with a shooting pain in my right shoulder area, after that subsided the tingling started and only got worse every day for about 2 or 3 weeks. That's where I'm at. I'm hardly able to bench or do stuff with my tricep. Freaking me out haha.
i have been suffering with the same issue from last 3 years. couldn't figure out what it is. but your videos really helped understand the cause. and now i am able to plan my workouts and increase recovery. very helpful. still if there any medical treatment which i couldn't find exactly. please do share if you know any.
Hi Chris! I hope all is well. I see this was posted a year ago. I’d love to hear how you’re doing now? My brother was just diagnosed with this.
Hope to hear back from you! Thank you for your videos. I appreciate them. :)
I have the same symptoms as you but I was diagnosed with C7 radiculopathy that was caused by disc herniation. Have you ever done MRI of the cervical spine?
I had c6-c7 acdf surgery and I am hoping to recover. Not doing as great as you though. My triceps, pecs and lat are still weak and atrophied and I had the symptoms for 8 months now... Cant really workout much because of the surgery but I will change that in the next couple of weeks. Happy for you!
How are you feeling now? Any better?
Thanks for sharing your story regarding brachial neuritis - how are you doing now with it? I've been unlucky enough to have had the condition for the last 2 years with ongoing investigation, only to find out a couple of months ago what it was. Being referred to the pain clinic now to help with symptoms but hoping it'll start to get better on its own eventually.
I hope you have made a full recovery and managing to train like before.
Did you have any numbing and tingling? I couldn't do one pushup for 3 months after my injury. I'm 1 year and 3 months in and I still have not recovered. Im up to 20 push ups, but I still have severe atrophy on my left side and weakness. But now I have muscle cramping, twitching, and pain, to go along with the weakness and atrophy. I still have numb fingers... Did you get any of that?
i did for about 3 months after the pain subsided... the tip of my right index finger was initially quite numb and very, very slowly recovered sensation. I'm currently 10 months in and I'd say that there is still a slight difference in the perception of touch between my two index fingers but nothing noticeable unless i'm concentrating on it.
OMG, your story is identical to mine, the only difference being that my problems were on the left side. The biggest issue for me was also the triceps, followed by pecs and the lats.
For me it’s been about 4.5 months since the onset of the disease. I’ve recovered to about 70% of the previous weight... and similarly to you, I think I also lost strength on the healthy side simply because I wasn’t training it to the max potential.
One thing I never did though is take some rest from training. The maximum period without training for me was 2 days. Perhaps this was a mistake? I’m not sure, really.
The only other thing I tried is physio with some weird machine which has an immensely strong magnetic field and supposedly helps with nerve recovery. I also did about 30 treatments so far in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber - but I cannot say for sure that both of these two things helped with the recovery...
Anyway, would be good to hear of you managed to get back to 100% ... and how much time it took you to get there.
It’s such a frustrating injury...
hey Chris...
Just wondering where you are with the atrophy you showed in one of your initial videos. Do you feel that you've largely recovered from that as well? I'm about 2 1/2 months in now and atrophy is pretty obvious in the pec, lat, & triceps... Strength is slowly coming back though... at about 2/3rd normal strength on the right side at this point.
Greg S how did you come through, Greg?
my condition is always made worse by lack of eating (IE when i am hungry) stress lack of sleep etc its almost as if its a indicator of when i am doing something that my body does not like
Watched your first vid then this latest one. And I know exactly how you feel. Long story but this unfortunately happened to me, too. I’d gotten some 20 years into weight training when one day while doing super heavy squats I heard and felt an incredible pop/ripping sound/electric charge and feel from my neck. I was never the same again. I didn’t go to have it checked out by a doctor and simply walked it off..even finished the leg workout like a dumbass. Fast forward a month or two and my right arm..right trap..the right side of my neck muscles..right upper chest and right lat all atrophied. At first I started doing extra sets/reps not fully understanding what I’d actually done to myself. After sinking into a bit of a depression I put two and two together and realized it had to have been due to the squatting episode so I had an mri done and found out it was a severely herniated disk. Afterwards I was a bit relieved in that by having it fused my problems would be relieved. The surgery made things worse though. This happened in 2003 and as I tried in vein to get back my body it just wasn’t to be. I am now in pain management and have been forced to find other hobbies. I know the feel of loss. In your first video you stated “I feel like somethings been taken from me”. That is word for word my exact feelings.
I was injured when I was born, my mother toke me to therapy, however I still have an awkward slant.
This is a debilitating condition for the majority of those who suffer from Neuralgic Amyotrophy. This video unfortunately doesn't represent the majority of people affected by significant neural damage / muscle atrophy. "Just relaxing" and building your way up to 50 push-ups, a few months after the onset of injury, is impossible for most. The true condition leaves the patient with an unparalleled degree of exercise intolerance. Day-to-Day tasks are difficult to manage, and chronic pain lasts for years, if not forever. For those truly suffering from this condition, google the literature on 'neuralgic amyotrophy', and focus on cautiously improving the endurance of your peri-scapular muscles, optimizing posture to avoid compensating strategies, and find a strategic balance between rest & activity.
I have this condition - googled more literature on it than can be imagined. Nowhere have I seen in any credible publication that the majority of people affected by it are left with unparalleled exercise intolerance. Nor have I seen any mention of chronic pain lasting for years in all but the smallest percentage of patients. That said, perhaps you are referring to the hereditary form of this condition?
Greg S here is a good article on some more recent research that shows the long term effects of neuralgic amyotrophy
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19254608/
Read the study. The one issue I have with it is that they did little to differentiate long term results between idiopathic and hereditary NA. Given 89 patients with 22 of them exhibiting the hereditary form of NA, and knowing ahead of time that the hereditary version is often much more severe, long lasting, and most likely to recur, seems to me their results will naturally be skewed to indicate a much worse general prognosis.
How have you recovered after the last Video
Hey to sum up can you give me tips. What was important?
hey have you fully recovered? Its been a year for me and the pandemic makes it hard to get to PT
Any news or tips did you recover?
@@tetricko no still recovering. going on 3 years now. symptoms are better, improved coordination too... but recovery is slow
@@giantqtipz6577 did you try PT or any drugs or treatments?
in my first week of diagnosis 3 years ago, I was given a saline injection around the inflammed nerve.
They used ultrasound to find the nerve, and injected a saline solution around it. It helped tremendously.
I asked for more injections, and they said if one dosage didnt give full recovery, then more dosage would be useless.
That was the only "drug" i took.
Ever since then I did PT, and it didnt help much.
Then I was recommended to see another PT with neuromuscular speciality, and they performed this procedure called Vojta Therapy. Its apparently not widely accepted in the US, but practiced in Europe. It helped "a little" and I did it for a few months.
Last Summer I had a follow up with my neuromuscular specialist who first diagnosed me, and he said my only remedy is to wait it out until the nerves heal. Time is unfortunately the main solution.
There are no drugs, and I was told I dont need surgery. So here I am now just waiting it out.
I was told to continue living my life, and not to stop exercising. Ive been swimming 3-4 times a week, and doing martial arts as well. Swimming has helped tremendously. Id say the freestyle catch pulling action helps alleviate the symptoms, and strengthen my right arm/shoulder.
Martial arts is hard because my right arm is busted, but I just keep going at it.
PTS is painful but dont let it stop your life.
Were you ever diagnosed with PTS by a doctor? Just curious because I was diagnosed when I was 22 and while not much is known about the disorder due to lack of research it still sounds to me like you may be experiencing something else that just sounds somewhat similar to PTS. With PTS the initial onset of symptoms you typically would experience a sudden onset of severe pain (sometimes IV morphine is given initially) and your range of motion is severe limited partially due to pain and partially due to the nerves that are being effective that control movement in the effected limb.
I’m not trying to say you don’t have PTS I’m just saying it might not be what you have and you may what do get checked out by a doctor to be safe.
sir I am an Indian and I am suffering from Branchial nuritis since two days in my left arm....... I am not able to stand my arm still in air opposite to the force of gravity as the doctor said that my one muscle is out of power...... NOW WHAT TO DO FOR RECOVERY
PLS REPLY SIR
This is my second Branchial nuritis.......... so the doctor said me for physiotherapy and a test called EMG/NCV which is painful. But I want no pain but gain pls reply sir
Hello Anu,
What I can tell you is from my own experience... The EMG is a useful test and not as painful as it is made out to be so go get the test. The best medication I took for pain was a corticosteroid called Prednisone - ask your doctor if he can prescribe this for you. Recovery is variable for everyone - it takes time and patience moreso than anything... The good news is that most people recover 100% eventually.
Greg S Thanks sir I am currently taking the same medicine which u prescribed. And I will go for my EMG test.....thanks again
no problem - feel free to contact me via email (address in my response to video above... trying to put together a small support group - recovery is a long road it seems... frustrating at the very least
@@gsherbs , did you start a group for this? I am very interested in learning more......
subtitles in portuguese please...thanks🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
i have that
These exercises work amazing to help reduce the pressure that is on the brachial plexus nerves.
th-cam.com/video/q5SsM9PWWYc/w-d-xo.html
I had this exact same condition 10 years ago and I eventually found that neck and shoulder stretches with deep tissue massage in the sub scapular region helped immensely. Most of the peeps I’ve spoken to who have had this were athletes and most were weight lifters like us. I firmly believe that this is more of a nerve entrapment syndrome that comes about from overdeveloping certain muscles in the shoulder and sub scapular region. The stretching & massages in conjunction with continued training definitely work.
Really encouraging to see this... I'm about 6 weeks into it and really very frustrated... Got back a bit of strength fairly quickly but progress lately has been very slow... I'm going to keep grinding it out and hope for a speedy recovery like yours. From what I gather though, time to full recovery varies pretty widely so I'm trying to keep my hopes high and expectations low.
Still looking forward to chatting offline with you or anyone else dealing with this. I can be reached at gmshebert via yahoo mail.
How is your recovery.. would like to know.. just got this and i feel your desparation