One thing I would like to see people play around with as Vanguard is the bunker with BOBs. I didn't use it since one of the last betas, but it basically turns the bunkers while manned by a BOB into a pretty solid mech healing structure. With repairs being 100% free in Stormgate I think it's something that from what I've seen, is being really undervalued currently. Just some examples of usage, you start with a SCOUT which it's a mech unit. You can actually use it as a 100% free source of tanking early on for clearing camps, I believe in the beta I was messing around with it a bit and found you could send 1 BOB and Lancer with the Scout and by just having the SCOUT tank, you could actually clear camps fairly quickly without losing anything. Plus with camps giving resources, in some cases even being a source of income, it makes that BOB you sent out still effectively gaining you income. Another example is like I mentioned at the start, that bunker. You just sneak 1 BOB off and essentially do a proxy bunker, and as long as your micro is even half decent you can pretty easily fly your Hornet out and have it healed up in seconds. I also think you could MAYBE abuse the "return to hangar" thing that they have, since they I believe ignore collision and return to the nearest hangar? I haven't tested it but I imagine if a hangar is set up near that repair bunker, they'd be able to fly back and return even faster.
@@_Azuraithe vid mentions a "Tasteless lan event", and there was one already. I think sweet lil' Piggy recorded this a week or two in advance for us - he's in Saudi Arabia right now, casting a big-ass SC2 world championship.
I don't know whether to admonish you for presenting such a raw, unresearched video or to praise you for being brave enough to be like "I don't care, I know Celestial things, let's learn some other stuff together" Probably the praise thing. Yeah the stealth upgrade for bombers is nuts
I've been pretty skeptical of this game but the Celestials actually got me interested enough to download. I hope they don't wind up getting ignored if they're weak in the beginning compared to the other two factions.
I was skeptical as well. The campaign is meh, but playing Celestials 1v1 is the most fun I've had with an RTS in a long time (and I'm still playing zerg on the SC2 ladder from time to time). Give it a shot. It's so satisfying to sneak in a bunch of buildings into the opponent's main and then surprise them with towers and units coming from inside their own base.
right now its really a 1v1 game, so as long as you like 1v1 then yeah they are working on it. if anything people are bad at adapting and celetrials is the strongest race atm, but I think vangaurd is the strongest if played well, and infernal is strongest if the person you are playing sucks. Celestrials is like the middle ground, don't need to be great or playing a special dumb person to win.
I know they’re testing out various mechanics before deciding whether to keep them or not, but I don’t think celestial should have what is essentially a warp gate. In sc2, warp gate played hell with the balance of gateway units, because if they’re too strong, cheese strategies will dominate, but if they’re weak (kind of like how they are now), they’re depressingly cost inefficient.
Balanced would probably be Vanguard. They're kinda basic, but versatile like Terran/Human. Subversive would probably be Celestials? Considering they don't have to adhere to normal conventions of base building while being a building-focused faction. That woul leave Infernals as powerhouse. They're more conventional than Celestials, but they also spread across the map over time to attack in waves and overwhelm with raw numbers.
Given the track record of Starcraft, I'm assuming that Stormgate will be ok but kinda suck in some important ways that will prevent it from really taking off and becoming a phenominon. Then they'll come out with Stormgate 2 twenty years from now and it'll be an absolute titan and give some SEA country an entirely new cultural identity by itself.
Yeah, it's not great... Hopefully the upcoming graphics overhaul will help but there's really nothing interesting or impressive about the game, unfortunately.
I think the problem with Stormgate is that it looks worse than it plays. I was really underwhelmed when watching replays, but decided to download anyway since I'm a lifelong RTS-fan. And I gotta say, the 1v1 is really fun right now. SC2 is amazing, I still play zerg occasionally. But SG is so fresh - the meta isn't figured out yet, everyone's trying out new builds, cheeses and compositions all the time. With SC2, I basically run the same 2 builds I learned from Pig, trying to optimize them to get a few more MMR points. Here, I can actually experiment - and still win, since nothing is optimized yet. If you want to try something that is def not a copy - try playing Celestials. The stuff you can do when your whole base is constantly on the move is crazy. Just hopped off of a game where I landed into my opponent's natural and started slow-pushing him with argents and batteries, only to find out that he landed in my main...
Helicarriers are a very satisfying unit to use.
It's nice to see strong capital ships that are not completely broken. Even massed, helicarriers can still be countered.
One thing I would like to see people play around with as Vanguard is the bunker with BOBs. I didn't use it since one of the last betas, but it basically turns the bunkers while manned by a BOB into a pretty solid mech healing structure. With repairs being 100% free in Stormgate I think it's something that from what I've seen, is being really undervalued currently.
Just some examples of usage, you start with a SCOUT which it's a mech unit. You can actually use it as a 100% free source of tanking early on for clearing camps, I believe in the beta I was messing around with it a bit and found you could send 1 BOB and Lancer with the Scout and by just having the SCOUT tank, you could actually clear camps fairly quickly without losing anything. Plus with camps giving resources, in some cases even being a source of income, it makes that BOB you sent out still effectively gaining you income.
Another example is like I mentioned at the start, that bunker. You just sneak 1 BOB off and essentially do a proxy bunker, and as long as your micro is even half decent you can pretty easily fly your Hornet out and have it healed up in seconds. I also think you could MAYBE abuse the "return to hangar" thing that they have, since they I believe ignore collision and return to the nearest hangar? I haven't tested it but I imagine if a hangar is set up near that repair bunker, they'd be able to fly back and return even faster.
I've done this and yeah!
Love to see some sky play every now and then, specially at tier 3. There should be strong ground counters to air, though.
Can you please give some kind of indication when you post a cast of an old patch ( I believe this is old?)
The client can’t handle replays from previous patches rn so I doubt it
@@_Azuraithe vid mentions a "Tasteless lan event", and there was one already. I think sweet lil' Piggy recorded this a week or two in advance for us - he's in Saudi Arabia right now, casting a big-ass SC2 world championship.
12:28:
12:50: Wow, that was atrociously bad micro ;p
14:10: POWER OVERWHELMING
I don't know whether to admonish you for presenting such a raw, unresearched video or to praise you for being brave enough to be like "I don't care, I know Celestial things, let's learn some other stuff together"
Probably the praise thing. Yeah the stealth upgrade for bombers is nuts
I've been pretty skeptical of this game but the Celestials actually got me interested enough to download. I hope they don't wind up getting ignored if they're weak in the beginning compared to the other two factions.
I was skeptical as well. The campaign is meh, but playing Celestials 1v1 is the most fun I've had with an RTS in a long time (and I'm still playing zerg on the SC2 ladder from time to time). Give it a shot. It's so satisfying to sneak in a bunch of buildings into the opponent's main and then surprise them with towers and units coming from inside their own base.
right now its really a 1v1 game, so as long as you like 1v1 then yeah they are working on it. if anything people are bad at adapting and celetrials is the strongest race atm, but I think vangaurd is the strongest if played well, and infernal is strongest if the person you are playing sucks. Celestrials is like the middle ground, don't need to be great or playing a special dumb person to win.
I know they’re testing out various mechanics before deciding whether to keep them or not, but I don’t think celestial should have what is essentially a warp gate. In sc2, warp gate played hell with the balance of gateway units, because if they’re too strong, cheese strategies will dominate, but if they’re weak (kind of like how they are now), they’re depressingly cost inefficient.
i think its ok to have, but it should be a midgame upgrade instead of them having it right from the start.
yippieee stormgate!!!
New to this game.
Regarding playstyle, which factions are the powerhouse, the balanced, and subversive?
Balanced would probably be Vanguard. They're kinda basic, but versatile like Terran/Human.
Subversive would probably be Celestials? Considering they don't have to adhere to normal conventions of base building while being a building-focused faction.
That woul leave Infernals as powerhouse. They're more conventional than Celestials, but they also spread across the map over time to attack in waves and overwhelm with raw numbers.
Given the track record of Starcraft, I'm assuming that Stormgate will be ok but kinda suck in some important ways that will prevent it from really taking off and becoming a phenominon.
Then they'll come out with Stormgate 2 twenty years from now and it'll be an absolute titan and give some SEA country an entirely new cultural identity by itself.
just wait for infiltrating builds
How much they paying you?
This looks very..... Bland.
Yeah, it's not great... Hopefully the upcoming graphics overhaul will help but there's really nothing interesting or impressive about the game, unfortunately.
It's really fun give it a go before you criticize it
@@InfinityDsbm I've played it. Not fun at all.
I can´t get over how i hate the graphics. Why make it look like a 2012 game?
This unit looks like a toy
Whomever designed the looks of this unit should be fired
NO freeaking kidding.
why would i play this instead sc2, it's seems like a bland copy, no personality
I think the problem with Stormgate is that it looks worse than it plays. I was really underwhelmed when watching replays, but decided to download anyway since I'm a lifelong RTS-fan. And I gotta say, the 1v1 is really fun right now. SC2 is amazing, I still play zerg occasionally. But SG is so fresh - the meta isn't figured out yet, everyone's trying out new builds, cheeses and compositions all the time.
With SC2, I basically run the same 2 builds I learned from Pig, trying to optimize them to get a few more MMR points. Here, I can actually experiment - and still win, since nothing is optimized yet.
If you want to try something that is def not a copy - try playing Celestials. The stuff you can do when your whole base is constantly on the move is crazy. Just hopped off of a game where I landed into my opponent's natural and started slow-pushing him with argents and batteries, only to find out that he landed in my main...
because sc2 has been abandoned by devs
This game is amazing give it a go