Longtail Bicycle Frame Build 08 - TIG Weld Dropouts

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  • In this video I TIG weld the dropouts to the chainstays and then weld caps on the ends. In the process I make a tool to hold the caps in place while tack welding using vise grips.
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  • @the_Jaakkonen
    @the_Jaakkonen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a tig-welder since 14 years.....this is so fun to watch. Keep up the good work. 🤘

  • @radek5690
    @radek5690 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That Vise Grip third hand is genius! Take it easy.

  • @crm9274
    @crm9274 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. I'm not even going to be making my frame myself (will get an expert to do it) but watching your process has given me a great understanding of it all

  • @jaehoonchoi
    @jaehoonchoi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello! I am preparing for making wooden bike and realize that I need to learn TIG skill for metal part of that. Your video is very helpful to find my way to the dream. Your idea and effort are impressive. Especially your zig is wonderful. Keep in touch!

  • @NEutebach
    @NEutebach 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i'm not a frame builder or anything but i admire the attention to detail that you're putting into this. your progress also really shows imo. keep up the great work!

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +NEutebach thanks for the kind words!

  • @aspenbanjo
    @aspenbanjo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Genius fixture design on the cap tacking holder!

  • @BisdremisKostas
    @BisdremisKostas 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    your clamp attachment really blew my mind ! im replicating by your permition , nice job!!

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +BisdremisKostas replicate away! I recommend fuse welding the swivel feet on the vise grip though because they have a bit of play. Unless you use the clamp on varying thicknesses.

  • @ezl8002
    @ezl8002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job on welding and using/building the setup jigs for the project! Thanks for the video.

    • @frankissac7540
      @frankissac7540 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i guess it is quite randomly asking but do anyone know a good site to stream newly released movies online ?

    • @henrikalexis4168
      @henrikalexis4168 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Frank Issac Flixportal :P

    • @frankissac7540
      @frankissac7540 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Henrik Alexis thank you, I went there and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :D I really appreciate it !!

    • @henrikalexis4168
      @henrikalexis4168 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Frank Issac you are welcome :D

  • @Ziraffo
    @Ziraffo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    production value is amazing. how come this is not more popular?!

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!! I think maybe because it's a niche topic and I tend to go into more detail than most viewers have a stomach for ;)

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thinking on this more however.. I have to say that those channels that have a lot of subs are because people want to tune in and watch that person due to charisma or funny or both! For example, I'll watch This Old Tony because the guy is so funny and his videos are so entertaining. He could make a video about boiling pasta and I'd still be thoroughly entertained. I also enjoy watching Abom79 because something about the way he does his videos, it feels like you're hanging out with the real guy. It's just very relaxing.

  • @elreyescorpion1988
    @elreyescorpion1988 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quiero una bici tuya me encantu tu trabajo.eres un genio.saludos desde alicante españa

  • @abfal2003
    @abfal2003 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    you getting better and better, congratulations.

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Still got a long way to go. The journey never ends :)

  • @dariorodriguez7157
    @dariorodriguez7157 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome...! Excellent...! I learn a lot from you....thanks..from Buenos Aires, Argentina.

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching :)

  • @kevinhornbuckle
    @kevinhornbuckle 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those look pretty good. Thanks for bringing us along.

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Kevin Hornbuckle anytime!

  • @tomharrell1954
    @tomharrell1954 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are doing great! Have fun !
    Get a small grinder and gently grind off the welds a bit. Just a small small bit. Those frames can be ground thru easily. I am saying just like a touch

  • @eviebee4
    @eviebee4 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    wonderful and informative content, thanks very much!

  • @ScienceFTW
    @ScienceFTW 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome as always! One little thing freaked me out though....take off your ring! I've been in a facility when a guy lost his finger. Keep your digits!

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Mike, I always forget to do that! @_@ I definitely want to keep my digits.

  • @hendrikhanso
    @hendrikhanso 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi. I really like your videos,have been a fan since I found you. you are an inspiration to me cause I have always wanted to make bicycle frames myself and Im still stuck boatbuilding 10 years later. but I will do it oneday. just a couple of pointers, q's.
    please hold the filler in the gas puddle a little longer or do you cut the ruined tip off for every new weld you start (like 44bikes on insta. man that pissed me off Idk why ) secondly I noticed You had 4 stopping points on the 1 cs. if you would plan out the welds then you could get away with 1 visible weldstop. caps first then start from the bottom and go alltheway around until you get where you started. anyways I really enjoy the work you put in , not only bike stuff but the video/editing is topnotch aswell! thanks
    Hendrik

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +hendrikhanso Tha KS for the pointers, always appreciated! I think more on those stopping points. :) I did have a lot!

  • @j729cip
    @j729cip 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful work!

  • @zasti78
    @zasti78 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice work.

  • @jesscneal
    @jesscneal 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice cap holding jig :)

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jess Neal thanks!

  • @policedog4030
    @policedog4030 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! One observation - I have similar horizontal dropouts on my 1982 26 inch Mongoose Kos Kruiser (welded up by none other than "Frank the Welder"); that I have been riding for all these years as the original owner; but anyway; that frame is nickel plated and one design flaw is that the area around where the axle bolt clamps to the horizontal dropout is so slippery that if you really stand on the pedals it can cause the rear axle to move or slip forward within the dropout slot and throw off your chain adjustment (which after all is plus or minus a few mm right?). So I want to suggest perhaps some type of knurling on the outer surface of the dropout to give the (hopefully also knurled) washer under the axle bolt something to grip on. Actually I think this knurling or texturing should be on the inner side of the dropout as well in my opinion; but I am just a rider, not an frame expert. I just know I hate having my axle slip and my chain get out of adjustment. The solution is not to overtorque the axle - it is a threaded rod and the torque should be as specified. Also with a plated frame you cannot crank that axle bolt down too hard or you may crack the plating. The alternative would be to design in a mini version of the chain tensioners similar to the ones on MotoGP motorcycles - perhaps that would be end of story on the axle slippage problem but better if that was designed in from the get-go.

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah good insight. So far I haven't had any slippage but the frame is not fully tested yet.. time will tell!

  • @hanzmaier9847
    @hanzmaier9847 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really Interesting Video 😊👍

  • @redaxe77
    @redaxe77 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good evening Pithy - My 11 YO son and I want to build a "Kick Bike" "dirt Scooter" as a father son Project. I got really into your videos when I discovered them about a year ago and have since picked up a tig welder and some other tools. What I would like to know is if you could direct us to a frame components supplier that we can order and fabricate from. - Thank you... really enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work!

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a great list of suppliers on MTBR - forums.mtbr.com/frame-building/master-list-framebuilding-suppliers-595808.html
      Good luck and feel free to ask if you have more questions or are in need of tips. pithybikes@gmail.com

  • @lukamodric1443
    @lukamodric1443 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like a 1:28 scale model of the hull you're working on, please

  • @MayorInCheif
    @MayorInCheif 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice 3rd hand.

  • @ferdiibote2427
    @ferdiibote2427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Request brompton frame make..

  • @meatintaco2002
    @meatintaco2002 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    great work !

  • @sweenep86
    @sweenep86 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd be tempted to turn/ mill the drop out tube end from solid bar as an insert, would stronger and easier to weld.to the plate.

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't remember where but I've seen what you are talking about. It's a good idea and would indeed making the process easier to weld.

    • @sweenep86
      @sweenep86 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pithy Bikes google weld in clevis and imagine them without the through hole. You can get them in chrome moly so strong and light. Also removes the need to phase the slot and other coped end. Also easier to weld similar thicknesses.

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      sweenep86 ah yes, right on!

  • @Jazzmarcel
    @Jazzmarcel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you show how you setup your argon purge?..........another question is why did you choose to build in steel and not aluminium? i would like to build an longtail cargo bike too as a replacement for my recetly stolen yuba mundo but, i want it to be a rear suspension, in alu!
    i am just about to but a ac/dc tig welder and argon bottle but, i hear that i need to heat treat after!

  • @nedzminomerhodzic7690
    @nedzminomerhodzic7690 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which gas is in the tubes when you weld, and what is its purpose? You do amazing job.

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's argon which is an inert gas. It prevents oxidation by shielding the heated area from the air around it.

  • @TimCalvin
    @TimCalvin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Got that GT-style Triple Triangle style going on now, eh?

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Tim Calvin I decided to change it because of difficulties I would run into with welding. The change is still pretty similar though.

  • @TheNewYorkHustle
    @TheNewYorkHustle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 1985 gt pro performer frame.. one rear dropout needs to be replaced.. you do repairs at all?

  • @mikehill9050
    @mikehill9050 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that one pulse per second a few months back I recommend that u and that's what it looks like to me...I use that on most all thin stuff I weld and most aluminum. .thanks for all the good video

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Mike Hill yep just about. Might be more like 0.8

  • @bretleversha
    @bretleversha 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    how thick is the metal on your dropouts out of interest please?

  • @gpsboladao8874
    @gpsboladao8874 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    says he has no experience. has all the tools in the world

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh man, you haven't seen tools! Believe me when I say most experienced frame builders have crazy tools! The stuff I have is just childs play compared to well established builders. But don't get me wrong.. I appreciate every tool I own. :)

    • @tomharrell1954
      @tomharrell1954 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pithy Bikes DUDE WHEN I BUILT BIKES WE HAD TWO HANDS, A WELDER AND A SQUARE.
      There were no jigs. We never heard of jigs. The welder was red Lincoln red box stick welder. That’s all there was.

  • @bretleversha
    @bretleversha 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What frame holder are you using there?

  • @chooboflex8154
    @chooboflex8154 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi,
    What you use type pipe dimension and thickness?

  • @insertgoodname4809
    @insertgoodname4809 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 min!! Good looong ep!

  • @mohdazamudinismail5118
    @mohdazamudinismail5118 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi, can i buy materials for make steel road bike?

  • @CLWoodturning
    @CLWoodturning 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome.... what is the part name for the milling attachment which cut the notch? I need to cut one into stainless steel bar, 16mm and all I’ve tried will not work so far. I’ve broken several 4 flute end mills lol

  • @erikdude666
    @erikdude666 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should build a prop stand. You've probably seen the really nice one for sale on IG but id recommend making one, good practice and you can get creative about it/make a video. hint hint ;)

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +erikdude666 you know I totally should!

  • @bitsurfer0101
    @bitsurfer0101 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you make the whole bike jig?

  • @pawelgaik8989
    @pawelgaik8989 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Steve, thanks for another cool video. I'm still practicing my welds and your speed seems quite comfortable, what PPS (Hz) you're set in this clip? Regards, Pawel

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Pawel Gaik it's about 0.8pps.

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Pawel Gaik it's kind of hard for me to know because my welder has analog dial and I don't think the scale is accurate.

    • @pawelgaik8989
      @pawelgaik8989 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man, I have tried it at 0.8pps the other day and must say I really like it. I have noticed that PTO must be adjusted accordingly, otherwise weld is getting to hot. Thanks for the tip and all best to you!

  • @thehollows
    @thehollows 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +thehollows :)

    • @thehollows
      @thehollows 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pithy Bikes this is my favourite channel on TH-cam. sucks I have to wait so long for videos but it's totally worth it. :)

  • @lavachemist
    @lavachemist 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What pulse setting were you using?

  • @raslc
    @raslc 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do perch holes do? Is it so that gas/air inside the tube heating up during welding can escape? Idk just guessing.

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Ryan C yes, so the argon can escape but mainly so that the CS can ventilate. Keeps humidity down.

  • @warrenzausa3145
    @warrenzausa3145 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    been waiting for this,how you've been doin man ☺

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm doing well. Just other things kept creeping in so this video took a while. Thanks for asking!

    • @warrenzausa3145
      @warrenzausa3145 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your welcome ☺

  • @motoxrrar1
    @motoxrrar1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you have such a large stick out? Is this for filming purpose ? Or because it's difficult to see ? You can probably have better luck with shorter stick out smaller cup size. What cfm are you running? I'd also suggest to go over the flat areas again with pulse to even your welds after you weld the rounded part of the cap, careful not to overheat your parts

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. The stick out is so I can see, it's just more comfortable for me. I use the 12 cup because I like the coverage and it's way more forgiving on HAZ. I'm at around 20 cfh.

  • @bikeshop2705
    @bikeshop2705 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hiya. great video. couple basic questions. when you are pulse welding do you have a setting that does auto pulse or are you manually pulsing w/ your pedal? Do you use any sort of ventilation in your shop?
    Thanks

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use auto pulse. I tried foot pulsing and prefer auto for now. I definitely see the advantages to foot pulse and maybe some day I'll revisit it. I was struggling with auto pulse for a while so I figured take it one thing at a time.. :) For ventilation I usually keep the garage door cracked open. Most of my welding is on clean tubes but regardless.. I think an organic respirator is a good idea. I don't do quantity so I've been slow to get one..

  • @dieselrotor
    @dieselrotor 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice !

  • @nikunjkhunt7306
    @nikunjkhunt7306 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is this welding process??

  • @motoxrrar1
    @motoxrrar1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What material do you use for the tubes and chain stays ? I'd like to pick some up and do a little testing

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      its 4130 chromoly steel. I got it off www.aircraftspruce.com/

  • @dohnanyix4366
    @dohnanyix4366 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the Name/Brand of the Tig-Torch you are using?
    and were can i get that one?
    i enjoy following your projects!!
    greetings from Germany

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The torch is an import from China that I modded. I purchased an import so that I could modify it and not worry if I ruined it. I don't even think it has a brand name. I got it from Ebay. It's a type 9 size torch. The part that gives this torch its character is the Fupa #12 glass cup I'm using - furickcup.com/product/fupa-12-kit/

  • @ryanpeterson1664
    @ryanpeterson1664 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    They are called Hellenic style seatstays.

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Ryan Peterson awesome, thanks! I've always wondered.

  • @oishisakana
    @oishisakana 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, you make my welds look like sh*t. keep it up

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For every good weld we do, there are 10 bad ones!

    • @oishisakana
      @oishisakana 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I long for the day I hit one out of 10 :p

  • @bryanbrunk1186
    @bryanbrunk1186 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    one tip, start in the most difficult position then transition into the more comfortable position.

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like it! I'll try that.

  • @fmc6338
    @fmc6338 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +frank doster 👍

  • @markfromwestcoastwoodcraft7633
    @markfromwestcoastwoodcraft7633 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very impressive, which welder do you use ?

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Mark from WestCoastWoodcraft its a Everlast 200DX

    • @markfromwestcoastwoodcraft7633
      @markfromwestcoastwoodcraft7633 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, I just watched your video on it , seems like a solid welder

  • @Freshwaterfishkeeper
    @Freshwaterfishkeeper 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you on Instagram? I like the way you set yourself up, very clean 👍🏼

  • @johnchung6900
    @johnchung6900 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The jog holding the tubes while welding are vibrating too much. You may want to revisit the jig again.

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +John Chung the jig (while I was tacking)? Or the arm at my welding table?

    • @johnchung6900
      @johnchung6900 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      At this point th-cam.com/video/2lDWDqL3sNk/w-d-xo.html Maybe the weight of the arm is affecting it. Worth looking into it

  • @TIGFab97
    @TIGFab97 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why purge a bike from steel

  • @jonezdatonetech2758
    @jonezdatonetech2758 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please make me a bmx frame for my son 29” electric wheel ?, rear wheel has 8 speed cassette and disc brakes.
    Rear dropouts 143mm.....
    Rear wheel has a 14mm axle
    Please help me
    Thank you 🙏 and have a blessed day

  • @kas8970
    @kas8970 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, you're bike is going to look a lot like a GT.

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not so much anymore.. I recently changed the seat stays. but from the side it will still look like a GT :)

  • @rommeo27
    @rommeo27 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    from where did you get the aluminium extrusions for your jig??

    • @rommeo27
      @rommeo27 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      never mind you answear me on the other video thx

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +rommeo27 you're very welcome!

  • @besteriophonic
    @besteriophonic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like ur big dreams😂👍😃

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dream big!

    • @besteriophonic
      @besteriophonic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pithy Bikes dude iam tolking about . the time when u said I had big dreams for the welding going all the way round and u did practice . and then u had problems. I just bought a welding machine and I also had big dream but I end u buring (little bit toasted with the flash . feel s like sun burn and I also have one question .) . when u did welding 1st time did u feel irritating and a lot of angle the next day . I did. great work . like ur video

    • @PithyBikes
      @PithyBikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@besteriophonic Yes it was quite difficult when I was first learning. But eventually I tried to just expect to mess up. And that kind of took the edge off and let me loosen up. With enough practice I loosened up and just try to enjoy every moment of welding. Laying a good weld has got to be one of the most satisfying and rewarding things to me. It's because of those hard times and struggles that makes it all the more satisfying when you finally lay a good weld.