Awesome! Congrats on the new addition to the garage. The needles come off. No damage will happen to the motors. I've had my M cluster apart more times than I care to mention lol
To be honest, would have much rather have done that than drill in to it. Just didnt want to risk damaging those bloody clock springs. Hopefully have the gearbox out of it in the next few days and get it on the road asap. Really looking forward to this one.
looks like a delicate, lengthy operation that shouldn't be attempted unless you have good eyesight, a steady hand, the rights tools, experience, etc! I came to this video because I'm considering purchasing a 2004 or newer Rolls Royce Phantom, also made by BMW and I've heard that the missing dash pixels is also an issue with them. Not sure, based on the video if the copper strip that was cleaned, is the entire cause of the problem. It would have been interesting to see if after cleaning it, would the original display be restored. I wonder, knowing this issue, if manufacturer's have been improving these products so they don't fail, or is it inevitable in all of them. I get the feeling that many manufacturer's are not as concerned as to the length of time their parts will last indefinitely, but more to the length of their warranty. That's why these videos are terrific, the repairs require a lot of patience, expertise, but I'm sure there is a tremendous cost savings and satisfaction doing it yourself!
Did you replace the screen with new one or just clean the connectors on the old one? Mine sometimes works almost fine and most the time is a cracking pixels
Yeah, have a foxwell nt610 (i think). It works. Its pretty slow on BMWs and rubbish compared to ista. But its handy being able to scan so many cars. Used it to diagnose the fault on the transit. I have used it on Renaults. etc. Definitely happy with it for the money it cost.
I have probably repaired several hundred of these clusters. the needles do come off. I used to use a bad set of small side cutters to hold onto the shaft to stop them pulling out. you can use a needle puller on the oil temp needle. it had a little cover that pops off
@@ZeroTo60Tube I was able to power them up on the bench and do the self test. but I also just got to know where they were meant to go. on clusters I was not familiar with I would use a postit note to mark the resting needle position. that sometimes worked depending on the motor. There are aftermarket screens available that are not shiny like that one. But they were getting harder to get hold of. The screens that I used to use had a heat activated glue on the end of the ribbon that I used a special iron tip with a rubber foot to activate the glue.
Also dont throw away the old screen it is possible to replace the ribbon on it. That is what I started doing when I could only find the shiny screens. I left that job almost 2 years ago so not sure what the current availability is.
I have a e39 540i my pixels are dead and I was thinking of getting m5 cluster. How do I go about coding the current mileage to the new cluster with incorrect mileage? 🙏🙏
@@valentivisan5073 Hi Valenti, that is not something we did in this video. So i am not sure how to assist you. Are you trying to power the cluster on a bench?
That display looks real crisp and clean! Is it just the camera or does it look crisper than the original (you know, when new, before the pixelation, haha)?
No it looks much sharper than a genuine one. Or maybe the genuine ones looked like that when they were new. Someone did say this gloss finish isnt correct, it should be more matte. However i think it looks better, even if its not orig.
Im guessing x5 because of oil temp guage and m3/5 would have higher rev range??? And the gearbox problems lol remember the sawdust trick 🤣🤣, keep up the good work boys👍🏴
Your friend was very wise his assessment. Pulling the needle out most certainly would have taken the shaft and spring with it. Below is a needle removal set specifically for BMWs. It comes with a tool that holds the shaft to prevent the entire shaft from coming out during removal. It's pretty cheap at 7£, but you also need to buy a screen from to get it. www.pixelfix.net/eng/bmw.html
Awesome! Congrats on the new addition to the garage. The needles come off. No damage will happen to the motors. I've had my M cluster apart more times than I care to mention lol
Good to know. Mark was worried about the clock springs if the shafts moved. Or did you do something to support the shaft when you pull the needle?
@@ZeroTo60Tube the shaft will move but it's fine. Might be counter intuitive but it's how it's done no problem 👍
To be honest, would have much rather have done that than drill in to it. Just didnt want to risk damaging those bloody clock springs. Hopefully have the gearbox out of it in the next few days and get it on the road asap. Really looking forward to this one.
x5 4.6 or 4.8is
What size torx are the little screws that hold on the white bar?
looks like a delicate, lengthy operation that shouldn't be attempted unless you have good eyesight, a steady hand, the rights tools, experience, etc! I came to this video because I'm considering purchasing a 2004 or newer Rolls Royce Phantom, also made by BMW and I've heard that the missing dash pixels is also an issue with them. Not sure, based on the video if the copper strip that was cleaned, is the entire cause of the problem. It would have been interesting to see if after cleaning it, would the original display be restored. I wonder, knowing this issue, if manufacturer's have been improving these products so they don't fail, or is it inevitable in all of them. I get the feeling that many manufacturer's are not as concerned as to the length of time their parts will last indefinitely, but more to the length of their warranty. That's why these videos are terrific, the repairs require a lot of patience, expertise, but I'm sure there is a tremendous cost savings and satisfaction doing it yourself!
Thanks for the step by step! Did you end up soldering the ribbon cable, or is it held down by pressure?
Just pressure.
I've been wanting to do the 6WB cluster upgrade on my F30. It looks simple enough. A bit pricey though, but it really does look so good.
Did you replace the screen with new one or just clean the connectors on the old one?
Mine sometimes works almost fine and most the time is a cracking pixels
I just bought a new screen. The copper on the connector has corroded.... cleaning may help, but the screens are relatively cheap.
@@ZeroTo60Tube i clean my connectors and put the old screen back ,it works fine like a new one, thanx for the video
Is there a way i can just not fix it and replace it so it can work ?
Have you got a Foxwell diag tool? What's your thoughts on it vs others that are available?
Yeah, have a foxwell nt610 (i think). It works. Its pretty slow on BMWs and rubbish compared to ista. But its handy being able to scan so many cars. Used it to diagnose the fault on the transit. I have used it on Renaults. etc. Definitely happy with it for the money it cost.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Thanks for the feedback.
I have probably repaired several hundred of these clusters. the needles do come off. I used to use a bad set of small side cutters to hold onto the shaft to stop them pulling out. you can use a needle puller on the oil temp needle. it had a little cover that pops off
Good to know, the oil temp did have a different motor to the rest, i guess thats why. Did you have any issues lining the needles up again?
@@ZeroTo60Tube I was able to power them up on the bench and do the self test. but I also just got to know where they were meant to go. on clusters I was not familiar with I would use a postit note to mark the resting needle position. that sometimes worked depending on the motor.
There are aftermarket screens available that are not shiny like that one. But they were getting harder to get hold of.
The screens that I used to use had a heat activated glue on the end of the ribbon that I used a special iron tip with a rubber foot to activate the glue.
Also dont throw away the old screen it is possible to replace the ribbon on it. That is what I started doing when I could only find the shiny screens. I left that job almost 2 years ago so not sure what the current availability is.
I have a e39 540i my pixels are dead and I was thinking of getting m5 cluster. How do I go about coding the current mileage to the new cluster with incorrect mileage? 🙏🙏
Good fix! I have to fix the cluster on the radio in my e39. That main cluster looked like a pain in the sack!
You can do it! This wasnt too bad, although i was shitting bricks as it was the first one i had done and i was worried about cocking it up.
please tell me how you connected the plugs to the 12v transformer 🙏
Would you mind clarifying which parts you are talking about?
how to connect a voltage inverter to the 2 black and white sockets
@@valentivisan5073 Hi Valenti, that is not something we did in this video. So i am not sure how to assist you. Are you trying to power the cluster on a bench?
how did you power the dashboard clocks outside the car?
@@valentivisan5073 We didnt. We only powered the cluster while in the vehicle.
Looking good 👏🏻
That display looks real crisp and clean! Is it just the camera or does it look crisper than the original (you know, when new, before the pixelation, haha)?
No it looks much sharper than a genuine one. Or maybe the genuine ones looked like that when they were new. Someone did say this gloss finish isnt correct, it should be more matte. However i think it looks better, even if its not orig.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Yeah, I like it as is, looks spot on!
The main thing is always skipped. Really great
Nice work!
Thank you! Cheers!
e46 m3 6 speed manual dark blue in colour want the lotto numbers
hahaha dreams
E46 m3? please :)
Surely it's a car with a manual transmission for you dad? So probaby not the m3 then but the manual of whatever your dads car is, 330ci?
Im guessing x5 because of oil temp guage and m3/5 would have higher rev range??? And the gearbox problems lol remember the sawdust trick 🤣🤣, keep up the good work boys👍🏴
Excellent bit of detective work there.
I bet i can guess but I also have access to the secret sauce, everyone get in on the memberships :)
hahaha shhhhhhh!!!!
2002-2003 BMW X5 4.6SI cluster
Your friend was very wise his assessment. Pulling the needle out most certainly would have taken the shaft and spring with it. Below is a needle removal set specifically for BMWs. It comes with a tool that holds the shaft to prevent the entire shaft from coming out during removal. It's pretty cheap at 7£, but you also need to buy a screen from to get it.
www.pixelfix.net/eng/bmw.html
I'm gonna go with E46 M3 SMG, but could also be X5M
Not an m3 cluster
535i or 540i e39
E39 M5?
Guys if you get stuck, there's always someone who can show you on YT😅!
E53.4.8IS . Will be a lot of engine work in this one and a lot of swearing and tears :)
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Ummm its from a red BMW X5 4.8 litre V8 .. Well thats my guess
Little patience
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1st!