I've never seen a surgeon actually FOCUS on non-binary results. I've never been able to articulate why I might want my results to slightly vary. Listening to the beginning, breaking down the binarism of the chests and the gray area in between... You knew my thoughts beter than me!
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@@genderconfirmationcenter why is non-binary always taking from a position of the people assigned female at birth. Why not the people assigned male at birth? Can they not get masculinization surgery while also getting BTM surgery and vaginoplasty. There are some XXYs out there...
I cried. I just cried because I thought I would have to lie and say that I'm trans, which I'm not, to have my top surgery and you're here. As a nonbinary borned woman who never wanted to have a developped chest... I thank you. I hope I can find someone like you to operate me soon (I'm European) I'm in agony and everyone thinks I'm crazy.
We are so glad that you are connected to us here on TH-cam. Please find our website (www.genderconfirmation.com) and consider connecting with the nonbinary individuals that share their top-surgery experiences with our team on Instagram and Facebook by finding our @genderconfirmationcenter account. It is very strange to us that this is the case for the surgeons you are interacting with and we hope you can continue to explore our growing online community. Please reach out to our team directly if we can be helpful in any way.
I'm a cis girl but have so much dysphoria around periods and chest, I feel you :( I was a f cup at 12 and no binder works, It's been 2 months so I hope your doing well :)
@@angelicgacha Have you ever worn a corset? No, not the ill-fitting ones worn by actors - a properly fitted one that has been worn for short periods until it can be worn for hours. Like a new pair of shoes. As a large cup size I've always found corsets far more comfortable than a bra, and definitely easier on the shoulders. Plus different styles of corset give different chest shapes! :)
Yeah I never asked for a chest but it came early (thanks to my uncle). I lived with it for 45 years but became increasingly more uncomfortable once menopause hit and I began gaining weight. My body began to look more feminine and worse, I began to look like my mother! I'm having top surgery this year but don't know what to do about my giant hips if insurance doesn't approve contouring/lipo. Plus the older I get, the higher the surgical risks.
Wow. I am Non binary, this is amazing. I actually super agree with gender infinite as well. It has bothered me for a while why people need to be placed into tiny boxes *AKA categorizations* instead of being free to be themselves. I used to like labels because I found solace in knowing I wasn't alone, but now I just see the world as an infinite rainbow of possibilities. I call myself non-binary sometimes still because it is something people can at least somewhat grasp. In reality, I have no name for who and what I am, I am just a person, and I just want to live a good life and love myself for who I am.
We are so glad that you are connected to us and it is wonderful to be able to read your words. Thank you so much. It is wonderful to be able sharing in the journey of discovering infinite possibilities of rainbows together!!
8:15 Thank goodness, that was EXACTLY what I was worried about!! I was worried that surgeons wouldn't take me seriously because I, born a female, still identify as female, but feared the idea of growing a chest since I was 8 and have bad chest dysphoria now with DD cups. Hearing you say that plenty of people going through the same thing as me getting top surgery is so relieving, especially since I live an hour from San Francisco and am considering going to the Gender Confirmation Center for top surgery.
This is really wonderful to know that this video and presentation was helpful to you. We are expanding our content on our website to be more reflective of the non-binary individuals that we serve through the Gender Confirmation Center and hope that you continue to explore these resources: www.genderconfirmation.com/non-binary/
I'm non-binary and I've both been wanting top surgery and scared about it because I don't want a masculine chest. This really helped me figure out what kinds of non-binary features I'd like to have with my chest! Thank you, this means a lot. It's difficult finding information on non-binary top surgery and how it can differ from top surgery for trans men
ok so I am FTN and I really want top surgery. there is not much info out there that focuses on non-binary surgery as this video does. I didn't even know that having a blank chest was a thing but it completely resonated with me. this video was so helpful, I have never really been able to articulate into words what I want but this video explained things so well, like genital nullification. I really hope that you might be my surgeon someday because you just seem so good at what you do
We are very glad that you have found our content, and we hope that you continue to stay connected to Dr. Mosser's Gender Confirmation Center TH-cam Channel by "subscribing" to our page. We plan to continue to expand our content to include more of what our non-binary community members are seeking and this will allow you to get notifications for when we publish new content. Our team is interactive and engaging, so please do not hesitate to let us know if you have any questions about our team, planning for top-surgery, or traveling to SF for Dr. Mosser's Gender Confirmation Center. I thought this link directing you to our #nonbinary resources on our website might be helpful: www.genderconfirmation.com/non-binary/
This guy’s really good at his job. My NB chest surgery turned out really good, but the surgeon definitely was like “here’s how I do it...” not “let’s talk about all the options.” They made a point of “warning” me 3 separate times against not getting nipples and then shrugged and said “ you can always get tattoos” even though I was adamant.
This helped me a lot to find better definitions for what I want. I never realised pre-hormone looks were an option and I really appreciate this extremely detailed discussion.
I am glad you have found this interesting. If you’d like to find us on Instagram and Facebook we are an easy search “@genderconfirmationcenter” where we are posting content more frequently.
I dont mean to be so off topic but does anyone know of a method to log back into an Instagram account?? I stupidly forgot the password. I love any help you can offer me!
Folks travel to San Francisco from all over the world to meet with Dr. Mosser. Please let our team know how we can be helpful in sharing information with you about The Gender Confirmation Center. Thank you for watching, any and all feedback is incredibly valuable!
Dr. Scott Mosser, Transgender Top Surgeon Hey, thank you for answering so quickly! I would enter the plane immediately to go see Dr. Mosser, but I guess the cost of travelling to the US alone is in the way of me being able to get over there in the foreseeable future. But concerning feedback, I actually do have something. It’s more a question, though. I want to ask it in the public space that is TH-cam, because it might be relevant to other folks and has been widely under-addressed. I am trying to collect information on going through physical transition while having a rheumatic or auto-immune-disease, like non-radiographic ankylosing spondylitis controlled by Tnf-blockers in my case. Can you point us to any resources concerning the effects of HRT (T, DHT-blockers) and gender affirming surgeries on (n-r)AS? For example, can T, hysterectomies or invasive surgical procedures cause rheumatic flares, accelerate the progression of AS, worsen osteoporosis or inflammation? So far I could only find one specific paper on this. I would like to know more about the latest state of research and maybe names of practitioners and researchers who specialize in this area. Your help would be greatly appreciated!
WOW!!! im FTNB and ive never heard my wants for top surgery acknowledged! for years, ive been searching for a way to remove most of my breast tissue as i dont want mammary glands left behind, but i do want some fullness left as my dysphoria comes from the organ, not the fat, and as a plus sized NB person, imo it would look a little weird with an entirely flat chest and no fullness whatsoever. i hope more surgeons begin to take on these options and i hope someone near me does too, as i live in the eastern US.
Thank you so much for this presentation. I still don't know if I want top surgery, since the most important thing to me is nipple sensitivity (I don't want to risk that at all, and I'm okay living life as a boy with boobs instead), but it's so nice to see all the options that are out there. What they actually look like, and how to think about them realistically. Even if I can't/won't have surgery for now, I want to learn as much as I can, since it makes me feel better and more in control of my life. This presentation has been by far the most comprehensive, inclusive, and helpful collection of information I've seen - and the first resource that doesn't assume every person seeking top surgery is a binary trans man who wants a completely flat/male chest at any cost.
I am very grateful for your feedback and the time that you took to leave our team such a kind message. Your appreciation for our work is validating and affirming for the work we are doing, and we hope to echo that appreciation for you!
I've commented on your videos before about wanting to get top surgery from you and I've come back again, about a year later. I am so close, I just did a session with a therapist to get my top surgery letter. soon I'll be able to set up a consult and get insurance stuff over. You actively go out of your way to support and include non-binary people, I am very touched. As a non-binary person myself I am determined to get top surgery from a person and a place that is so accepting of me and of course I am pleased with your post op results. I will come back one day when my dreams are achieved.
As a nonbinary person living in the bay area who is planning on getting top surgery, it's really reassuring to see a surgeon who is very informed about and open to nonbinary gender identities and expressions. I didn't know I had so many options to customize my chest! This video was really informational and helped me a lot in figuring out what I do and don't want. Hopefully this means I'll be able to clearly articulate my needs when I eventually have the opportunity to get it done!
This is such a wonderful compliment, thank you so much. It is extremely affirming to know that this content resonates with you & we are growing & expanding our resources to be more descriptive of our non-binary patient experience. I hope you consider staying connected with our team as you're exploring your options:)
this is a wonderful presentation. i am a binary trans guy, but heavily considering going with no nipples if i get double incision just because i like the aesthetic and i would rather have no nipples at all than have nipples with limited sensation. i absolutely love how accepting you are of how other people wish to appear, and how much you care about non-binary people and their needs. that is a surprisingly difficult thing to find.
basically my thoughts right now are- if i can find a surgeon i really love who does buttonhole, i will do that. but if i need to do double incision i will opt out of nipple grafts entirely and have a bare chest :))
I’m so glad this video resonated with you! It is always up to the patient if they want the nipples removed or not. We do our best to accommodate and have compassion for everyone’s transition needs/desires. Thank you for watching!
Thank you very much in particular for the information at about 25:20 discussing the angle and overhang issue. This is something that is hard to identify as an aspect of dysphoria but explains very well my own experience. I see lots of focus on size but not so much on these details, movement/weight of breasts and actual embodied experience vs. just appearance.
This is great feedback, and I am very glad to read that this was helpful for you. Our non-binary top-surgery and body contouring resources expand on our website if you'd like to take a look :) !
Yes! I loathe the embodied experience of overhang, so much that it makes sleeping hard! The experience of having breasts is the thing that I hate really, so finding results that resonate and address that has been really hard but this video gives me hope.
there is absolutely nothing I want more in this world than a phalloplasty without a vaginectomy. When I asked my doctor and he said "There's almost a 100% chance of urinary complications, with or without urethral lengthening. Maybe in 10 to 15 years they'll figure it out." fml
God I hope surgeons around the world watch this. The button hole with the curvy scars I'm in love with, and the fish mouth seems like a good option too tbh?? I with I could get rid of overhang, and make my breasts into very gentle ovals, without changing much else - but when I say get rid of overhang, I mean I'm a very long GG so what I want basically would mean taking skin off of my ribs? Wish I could just do it myself with kitchen scissors lol.
I'm happy that you found some techniques that speak to you! We are proud to offer a number of different techniques & incisions to best suit each individual patient. A consultation with Dr. Mosser or Dr. Facque gives patients a unique surgical plan tailored to their presentation goals. Consider checking out our other non-binary techniques here: www.genderconfirmation.com/non-binary-incisions-and-contouring/
I'm so happy to see someone talk about the options I might want to take as a non binary individual for when I transition in the future. I've had questions answered that I didn't even think about, or didn't know I had, I'm happy to say that I now have a better understanding of the different types of surgery and what happens during these surgeries because not knowing the pros and cons of these surgeries was a big concern of mine. I always see a lot more about ftm and mtf people than I see about non-binary people, and although I'm very happy to be aware of these options they have and I wouldn't even know about these options if I hadn't learned about the options binary trans folks have I'm glad to see something for non-binary people as well. It does make sense that there are less resources since we are a small community but I am glad that you're one of the resources I've found since it answers a lot of questions for me.
We are so happy that you found us! Thank you for your comment and validating that this information was helpful to you - it is our goal to deliver information and resources that make top surgery and gender affirming medical care more familiar for you and anyone that is interested in learning about our work. Please share any questions or thoughts that we may not have covered and our team would be honored to share our thoughts with you! If you would like to connect with the office more directly, please consider checking out ways to do so on our website www.genderconfirmation.com :)
Hi!! Im a nb lesbian (nb who identities as a lesbian bc thats the label that makes me the happiest) and I want to get top in the future but I'm still figuring some things out. I appreciate this video sm and your comments! The fact you say any chest is a nb chest made me stupid happy :-) tysm!!
Welcome to Dr. Scott Mosser's Gender Confirmation Center TH-cam Channel! It made our day to read your comment and see that this video and our language resonated with you. If you have any questions or thoughts our team is available to chat anytime. Our website is also growing and we are always adding new resources to help build a tool that can prepare folks for to-surgery and gender affirming medical procedures here (www.genderconfirmation.com)
im so glad that the fishmouth incision was talked about because i was in that same boat. the only one that i really clicked with was that one. definitely hope to be able to come to you for surgery
I just found out about fishmouth and im wondering when someone was gonna tell me about it lmaoIt clicked instantly thats what i want. I was just gonna settle with like inverted-T but it didnt click like this. I'm also looking into going to them for surgery
Dr Scott Mosser is my dream surgeon I know I will one day be able to meet you for my top surgery,it will be my dream come true.Sending lots of love from Kenya.
Thank you for doing this presentation. I believe this will be a powerful tool when seeking medical intervention. It also gave me some factual information to really think about what I do want in that area without letting the dysphoria overpower me. I think this will empower a lot of people and you are a real asset to the community and the wider world.
Thank you very much. This is a very powerful sentiment and please know that we value what you share here, it informs our work at The Gender Confirmation Center. Please consider checking out our resources here on our website and sharing it with others that you might come in contact with: www.genderconfirmation.com
Thank you so much for your comment and welcome to Dr. Mosser's Gender Confirmation Center! Please let our team know if we can be helpful in sharing any additional resources or information. We are interactive on Facebook and Instagram as well :)
!!!!!! Took the words right out of my head, and seeing agender (what I am) mentioned under non binary made me Very happy, good video and presentation :)
hiya! I know this is an old(ish) video, but I just want to thank you for making it exist! I'm a nb afab, and I know I present feminine, but I've always felt masculine at my core. I've always lamented not being able to grow a beard, and I hate my reproductive system, yet I'm not sure between top surgery and breast reduction. thank you for making me feel valid in my identity 💕
I just finished the video, the picture on the right side (starting from 10:18, and to the end of that picture group) is exactly how I'd like my body to look, whereas my body looks more like the left side, unfortunately. I'm also unfortunately in Scotland and broke 😅🙈 edit: I do bind, because my dysphoria is too bad otherwise, but I admit I do tend to bind 'wrong'. I'll adjust everything outwards, and under my armpits to get the flattest look, and I do acknowledge the damage I'm doing but I just hate the too big bump otherwise. I'm size 32F and UGH. 😅
I'm glad that you found this content to be affirming! We totally understand that each individual approaching top surgery has different presentation goals in mind. Patients discuss all the available techniques with their surgeon during the consultation to design the best surgical plan for them. We've also added content about newer nonbinary procedures on our website if you're interested in learning more about some new techniques :) www.genderconfirmation.com/non-binary-incisions-and-contouring/
After roughly 1 year on T my female fat deposits totally changed and my body looks male. I thought I was going to have to have body contouring but I definitely don’t need it at all. I became very thin and muscular. I had really hypertrophic scarring and required steroid injections on my scarring so I tattooed over the scar. I’m super happy with my chest surgery results. Everyone thinks I look great.
I'd be curious to see if you've had any patients who wanted fishmouth-style incisions but no nipples. Do you still have issues with extra tissue left behind? Would you still call it a fishmouth, or would it be a modified double incision? I understand that's probably not a common request, as keeping nipple sensation (and, consequently, the nipples) is half the point of the different procedure, but I'm sure you've had at least one.
Hi there, these are all great questions. Individuals can choose to have no-nipples for any incision type and doing so is a completely valid choice. If an individual wanted to have a fishmouth procedure with no nipples this would need to be discussed between the patient ant their surgeon, but would not be considered a modified double incision. The two techniques are different. Check out the differences between a Fishmouth procedure and a Double Incision procedure here on our website: www.genderconfirmation.com/surgery/fishmouth/
I'm in germany and I'm pretty sure I want double incision with no nipple grafts and straight scars that are slightly diagonal. The problem is that surgeons here tend to be a bit... old-fashioned. I've heard of many people who have asked their surgeons to get no nipple grafts and they got told that that was not an option since it didn't look like a traditional male chest. I also have to pretend I'm a binary trans guy or else I won't get anything covered by insurance (and also I've heard that enbyphobia is also widespread among doctors who are treating trans people like for example surgeons). Many use the excuse of wanting to get them tattooed instead of grafted for easier healing but that wouldn't make sense for me since I'm most likely elegible for peri or maybe even keyhole. So I either have to come up with a really good story to explain why I as a totally binary trans man who wants totally binary looking results would want to get double incision and no nipple grafts, or I need to find a surgeon that is cool about those things. If y'all know any surgeons in germany that are ok with doing double incision without nipple grafts then I would be very grateful if you told me. Also if you have any negative experiences about that it would also be helpful so that I know which surgeons to avoid.
Thank you for feeling comfortable to share your experience of this process with us. It does sound like you’ve made a great deal of progress in your search for the perfect surgeon for your surgery, and I’m sorry that it’s been so difficult to find a surgeon who aligns with your desired surgical outcomes. World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) does have an international list of surgeons who meet WPATH standards. We recommend that patients who aren’t able to travel to The Gender Confirmation Center find a surgeon from this. This is the best resource that we can pass along to folks outside of the US. Please continue to reach out to us here, or on any of our social media, if we can be of anymore help! www.wpath.org/provider/search
Excellent talk, both from the perspective of someone who's going into a research field that involves a fair amount of (animal) surgery and of someone who's in consultations for top. (Hate being east coast...) I consider myself a binary man but it REALLY bugs me that there's so little transparency about what anatomical attributes (direction of nerve growth, blood supply, skin tension, issues with scar pursing in peri, enough opening for tissue removal, etc) limit how top surgery can defacto be performed. I dislike how DI outcomes look (too flat, don't make sense with my body type or male family members) enough that I'd rather have the same amount of scarring using an 'oddball' method like fishmouth, but the option may just not be available to me.
Thank you very much for your kind words! I would encourage you to connect with out team to discuss these goals during a consultation with Dr. Mosser and get an idea of what is going to help you achieve your goals. We also have folks travel to us from the east coast often, and have some of our transgender staff members that work remotely from the east coast that can be helpful in sharing tips & tricks for finding gender affirming care in different cities.
A fantastic talk, thank you. I would've liked to see some real life pictures of the "overhang vs no overhang" comparison that he made between buttonhole vs breast reduction. It doesn't seem like there are examples of this on your website either, would be great if these were added!
You want to know a really good category to be in? Undefined ❤️🙏. Allowing myself to always grow, expand and develop my core self and just be the spiritual being I am whilst having this human experience. That to me is being part of the process at the fullest ❣️
Thank you much for the kind words! :) It is so wonderful to be able to share in the journey of discovering infinite possibilities together!! For more inspiration, feel free to explore our "Before & After" photos on our website: www.genderconfirmation.com/before-after/
My dream is to one day see Dr Scott Mosser. I have hopes that one day I will have money for the surgery and to travel all the way from Kenya to meet my favourite Dr Scott
We hope that one day we are able to meet you, too! :) There are options to help pay for your surgery. We have compiled a list of resources for folks needing assistance here: www.genderconfirmation.com/blog/lift-financing-burden-gender-confirmation-surgery/
That is wonderful, and really one of the major goals behind our reason for sharing this content. Please let us know if our team can be helpful in guiding your care providers through our resources, and visit our website here: www.genderconfirmation.com
The surgeon who will be doing my tip surgery at Stanford said that he has never had body contouring approved by insurance. Have you had the same experience with your patients? If so, why is it so hard for them to grasp that we dont want huge hips?
It's difficult to give a simple answer for this. Unfortunately, an increasing number of insurance companies have been dropping coverage for body contouring, but doing so in a rather diabolical way. They approve liposuction but then will only pay practices a very small amount which is not enough to cover basic costs. We are working to engage with insurance companies to help them understand that some (though not all) liposuction is essential for the gender journey and insurance companies need to support all relevant parts of the gender journey. Right now, insurance coverage for body contouring depends on an individual and their exact variation of an insurance plan at a specific given time. It also depends on how particular an insurance company is. We have been able to cut through red tape with some companies when a patient has a strong HR department in their company who will advocate for them.
Hello! Around the 40 minute mark you mention that you don't really do the T-anchor incision style anymore, but I wasn't clear... do you still use this incision type for breast reductions and radical reductions? Thank you so much for this wonderful talk.
T style is still something that is practiced. Each individual is different and what’s most suitable depends on a few factors. Find out more on our website here: www.genderconfirmation.com/?s=T+incision
I’m ftm but I want to get aggressive breast reduction. B it I notice a lot of surgeon doesn’t do it . With aggressive Breast reduction can it still look somewhat masculine or muscular look ??
Thanks for reaching out! Aggressive breast reduction doesn’t typically look muscular. For more info on types of chest reconstruction, feel free to visit www.genderconfirmation.com/surgery/
I looked at a bunch of incisions & saw fishmouth & said "weird, that's a no from me" & then I got to the bottom & nothing spoke to me, then I looked back up & fishmouth just... I thought it was weird at first but it's actually calling to me. I really like it. I dont know if I like it or not
Dr. Mosser & The Gender Confirmation Center provide gender affirming top-surgery procedures for the transgender, non-binary & gender expansive community members and those that identify with this experience. Gender identity & sexual orientation are very different from one another. For example, an individual can have a non-binary gender identity and a sexual orientation identity as a lesbian and present both of these identities as valid at the same time. If a non-binary chest appearance in any variation would achieve a sense of euphoria for you is a question that you would need to discuss with a primary medical provider & your chosen top surgeon. Does this help answer your question?
That’s perfectly fine! Many people only use nonbinary and don’t use any more specific labels. At the end of the day, it’s your identity and you get to define it how you want.
Couldn't have said it better myself! Thanks for sharing, August! You absolutely can! Dr. Mosser speaks on this subject here: www.genderconfirmation.com/non-binary/
Dr. Mosser works with individuals from all over the world, and our team is available to help coordinate & communicate accessible ways to travel & lodge in San Francisco. Please connect with us on Instagram (@genderconfirmationcenter), Facebook (@genderconfirmation) our visit our website resources here to become familiar with San Francisco: www.genderconfirmation.com/travel-tips
Thank you for watching the presentation! We hope you can share it with others that might find it helpful. We do, and you can view a full list of insurances we accept here: www.genderconfirmation.com/about-us/insurances-accepted/
There are some added implications for folks who have had a previous chest reduction; however, top surgery is still a possibility! Generally, the procedure types are more limited for these folks. This question is more thoroughly answered on our website (www.genderconfirmation.com/having-top-surgery-after-a-breast-reduction/), but this would also be a great conversation to have with Dr. Mosser during a consultation!
how do we get someone like you, who cares enough about non binary folk in the NAVY. I am currently going through the transgender process and it feels like they are almost pushing me into a more male category. they have their ways on FTM, but nothing for non binary people. Anyway, how do i get YOU to complete the surgery :) also thank you for your amazing videos!!
This will be a discussion that we would need to have during your free consultation. We are accepting new free virtual consultations now and encourage you to reach out to us here! (info@genderconfirmation.com) and include "Free Virtual Consultation" in your subject line! Before taking these steps, please know we are located in San Francisco, California and our website is available for additional learning: www.genderconfirmation.com
Hey there, I am glad you are connecting with our team. Yes, folks who identify as non-binary and have insurance work with their insurance company to have this procedure covered. Check out a list of insurances that Dr. Mosser works with here. Dr. Mosser's Insurance Advocacy team is dedicated to making sure you have someone to answer all of your insurance questions and can be contact on our website as well: www.genderconfirmation.com/about-us/insurances-accepted/
This is a really important question and one we are working to develop more content around, thank you for asking. To be very clear, The Gender Confirmation Center does not believe that there is any single way to be, or describe non-binary presentation. This particular context was framed to introduce the topic and we passionately understand the need to expand our content to reflect the many ways that non-binary bodies present.
I can't lie... this felt incredibly focused on AFAB nonbinary people. That disappoints me. It kinda others me out even more as an AMAB nonbinary person. This video covers a lot of masculinization of feminine bodies, to a neutral point, rather than the feminization of masculine bodies to that point.
We appreciate your feedback! You are correct about this presentation, it is about FTN Non-Binary surgical options. From the title and such, we completely understand how that would not be clear, and we appreciate your bringing this to our attention. We are currently working on updating the language we use in regards to procedures as well as educational content, to foster more inclusivity beyond the binary, and we do offer MTN top surgery and body contouring.
@@genderconfirmationcenter Thanks for the reply. I think it just seems to be apart of a wider discussion and examination that may need to be had about why most nonbinary people are AFAB. This is true in media as well, where most nonbinary representation comes from the look of "AFAB+androgynous+wearing mens business casual". Generally, I just wish there was better representation everywhere for MTN people. There's lots of surgical options as an MTN I'm considering (BBL, body contouring stuff) to achieve that same "slender but androgynous form". I wish I knew what resources to look for in that regard. I don't even see a lot of results for mtf body contouring, surprisingly.
Thanks for your question! Any chest is non-binary if someone identifies as such (with or without top surgery). What’s discussed in this hour presentation is the aspects of a pre pubescent chest prior to a pubertal period, breast removal, reduction and also breast augmentation. The way male physique is discussed is used to help frame the conversation but is not the center of the presentation. If you want to explore the presentation fully please read the description of the video as it breaks down what time periods things are discussed.
@@genderconfirmationcenter dr.scott you're doing so good (: ignore them. I'm proud of how smart and educated you are in your field. Your response was proper (:
What standards are in place to ensure vulnerable people aren’t being overly influenced by the current non -binary gender hype and making the wrong decisions?
@@xbduf4gb one must be recommended via gender therapist in order to get surgery A therapist will not reccomend you for surgery if your chest doesnt have some sort of negative impact on your life specifically "gender dysphoryia". Therefore if someones who's confused comes in, it's very easy to tell the difference between them and someone actually struggling with the way they are perceived. Simple science. Would be happy to answer any other questions you have.
You're completely right in calling this forward. Our goal with this presentation is not to state what Nonbinary is, but rather demonstrate how gender affirming top-surgery procedures are much more dynamic, intimate and expansive than most folks realize and is not a procedure that is limited to affirming binary gender identities. I hope that this helps share a stronger understanding for what our intention was with this presentation.
Any chest can be a non-binary chest if a person's gender identify is aligned with a non-binary gender expression and they identify as such. Consider checking out our resources here about non-binary top-surgery procedures that may be helpful to you: www.genderconfirmation.com/non-binary/
Dr. Scott Mosser, Transgender Top Surgeon If biological females have breasts removed they will have a post mastectomy chest with contouring. They will still look female to the casual observer unless they are on testosterone. I think it is important to encourage your patients to stay in touch with reality and minimise unrealistic expectations that they are getting a “non-binary” chest.
@Alx I had this surgery and it was exactly what I was looking for. I don’t look male or female, hence NonBinary. I’m not interested in looking male, so I don’t take testosterone. In clothes I look like I did before puberty. I just look like me with no unwanted sexual features. That’s different from adult females with small chests like ballerinas, gymnasts, yoga instructors, etc. They still have visible A-cups.
@@xbduf4gb It does not matter what you look like. It does not matter if someone looked female to you, yet they identify as nonbinary. They are still nonbinary. You dont make sense?
It is exceptionally rare for patients to regret transitioning genders. Although rare, regret after surgery is often due to the patient’s unrealistic expectations, or due to the very rare complications from surgery, or (unfortunately) due to a poor result executed by an inexperienced surgeon. This is why Dr. Mosser specializes in transgender surgery, and emphasizes coordination with the patient’s support team, including physicians, family members, partners, or close friends assisting in the transition.
@@genderconfirmationcenter Do you think calling it a non-binary look with top surgery could foster unrealistic expectations because essentially the result will be like a FTM chest not a “non-binary” chest?
@@genderconfirmationcenter There are a large number of FTM de-transitioners these days. I don’t think it is fair to blame the patient. Doctors have a duty of care to ensure patients are truly ready before allowing them to proceed with an irreversible intervention.
@@xz740 you sound very confident for a person on TH-cam rather than a surgeon please post some articles or studies I am really interested to see some data
I've never seen a surgeon actually FOCUS on non-binary results. I've never been able to articulate why I might want my results to slightly vary. Listening to the beginning, breaking down the binarism of the chests and the gray area in between... You knew my thoughts beter than me!
Thank you for the very kind words, and we are so grateful you found our work helpful. Please connect with us by subscribing (if you haven’t already!) to stay in touch for when we share more exciting content around the topics shared in this presentation!
@@genderconfirmationcenter why is non-binary always taking from a position of the people assigned female at birth. Why not the people assigned male at birth? Can they not get masculinization surgery while also getting BTM surgery and vaginoplasty. There are some XXYs out there...
I cried. I just cried because I thought I would have to lie and say that I'm trans, which I'm not, to have my top surgery and you're here. As a nonbinary borned woman who never wanted to have a developped chest... I thank you. I hope I can find someone like you to operate me soon (I'm European) I'm in agony and everyone thinks I'm crazy.
We are so glad that you are connected to us here on TH-cam. Please find our website (www.genderconfirmation.com) and consider connecting with the nonbinary individuals that share their top-surgery experiences with our team on Instagram and Facebook by finding our @genderconfirmationcenter account. It is very strange to us that this is the case for the surgeons you are interacting with and we hope you can continue to explore our growing online community. Please reach out to our team directly if we can be helpful in any way.
I'm a cis girl but have so much dysphoria around periods and chest, I feel you :( I was a f cup at 12 and no binder works, It's been 2 months so I hope your doing well :)
@@angelicgacha Have you ever worn a corset?
No, not the ill-fitting ones worn by actors - a properly fitted one that has been worn for short periods until it can be worn for hours. Like a new pair of shoes.
As a large cup size I've always found corsets far more comfortable than a bra, and definitely easier on the shoulders. Plus different styles of corset give different chest shapes! :)
Yeah I never asked for a chest but it came early (thanks to my uncle). I lived with it for 45 years but became increasingly more uncomfortable once menopause hit and I began gaining weight. My body began to look more feminine and worse, I began to look like my mother! I'm having top surgery this year but don't know what to do about my giant hips if insurance doesn't approve contouring/lipo. Plus the older I get, the higher the surgical risks.
Wow. I am Non binary, this is amazing. I actually super agree with gender infinite as well. It has bothered me for a while why people need to be placed into tiny boxes *AKA categorizations* instead of being free to be themselves. I used to like labels because I found solace in knowing I wasn't alone, but now I just see the world as an infinite rainbow of possibilities. I call myself non-binary sometimes still because it is something people can at least somewhat grasp. In reality, I have no name for who and what I am, I am just a person, and I just want to live a good life and love myself for who I am.
We are so glad that you are connected to us and it is wonderful to be able to read your words. Thank you so much. It is wonderful to be able sharing in the journey of discovering infinite possibilities of rainbows together!!
I have never related to such a description more than this one. thank you for making me smile today Sashiku :)
@Sashiku this is exactly how I feel. I just want to be acknowledged as me without the weight of labels and obligatory categories. I want to be free
8:15 Thank goodness, that was EXACTLY what I was worried about!! I was worried that surgeons wouldn't take me seriously because I, born a female, still identify as female, but feared the idea of growing a chest since I was 8 and have bad chest dysphoria now with DD cups. Hearing you say that plenty of people going through the same thing as me getting top surgery is so relieving, especially since I live an hour from San Francisco and am considering going to the Gender Confirmation Center for top surgery.
17:39 omg
This is really wonderful to know that this video and presentation was helpful to you. We are expanding our content on our website to be more reflective of the non-binary individuals that we serve through the Gender Confirmation Center and hope that you continue to explore these resources: www.genderconfirmation.com/non-binary/
Same :( I had f cups at 12 and started puberty at 8
@@angelicgachaMassive oof...
If you don't mind me asking, did you already resolve the issue, since you said "had"?
I'm non-binary and I've both been wanting top surgery and scared about it because I don't want a masculine chest. This really helped me figure out what kinds of non-binary features I'd like to have with my chest! Thank you, this means a lot. It's difficult finding information on non-binary top surgery and how it can differ from top surgery for trans men
ok so I am FTN and I really want top surgery. there is not much info out there that focuses on non-binary surgery as this video does. I didn't even know that having a blank chest was a thing but it completely resonated with me. this video was so helpful, I have never really been able to articulate into words what I want but this video explained things so well, like genital nullification. I really hope that you might be my surgeon someday because you just seem so good at what you do
We are very glad that you have found our content, and we hope that you continue to stay connected to Dr. Mosser's Gender Confirmation Center TH-cam Channel by "subscribing" to our page. We plan to continue to expand our content to include more of what our non-binary community members are seeking and this will allow you to get notifications for when we publish new content. Our team is interactive and engaging, so please do not hesitate to let us know if you have any questions about our team, planning for top-surgery, or traveling to SF for Dr. Mosser's Gender Confirmation Center. I thought this link directing you to our #nonbinary resources on our website might be helpful: www.genderconfirmation.com/non-binary/
This guy’s really good at his job. My NB chest surgery turned out really good, but the surgeon definitely was like “here’s how I do it...” not “let’s talk about all the options.” They made a point of “warning” me 3 separate times against not getting nipples and then shrugged and said “ you can always get tattoos” even though I was adamant.
I had surgery by Dr. Mosser and it's the best thing to have happened to me.
This helped me a lot to find better definitions for what I want. I never realised pre-hormone looks were an option and I really appreciate this extremely detailed discussion.
You are so very welcome, and thank you for the kind words! I am glad this was helpful.
this is super interesting
I am glad you have found this interesting.
If you’d like to find us on Instagram and Facebook we are an easy search “@genderconfirmationcenter” where we are posting content more frequently.
Hi Noah!!
good to know even the big guys find this stuff interesting
I dont mean to be so off topic but does anyone know of a method to log back into an Instagram account??
I stupidly forgot the password. I love any help you can offer me!
@Kylan Watson instablaster :)
This doctor is everything. I‘m having kind of a medical crush. I wish I knew someone like this in Germany. Anyone?
Folks travel to San Francisco from all over the world to meet with Dr. Mosser. Please let our team know how we can be helpful in sharing information with you about The Gender Confirmation Center. Thank you for watching, any and all feedback is incredibly valuable!
Dr. Scott Mosser, Transgender Top Surgeon Hey, thank you for answering so quickly! I would enter the plane immediately to go see Dr. Mosser, but I guess the cost of travelling to the US alone is in the way of me being able to get over there in the foreseeable future. But concerning feedback, I actually do have something. It’s more a question, though. I want to ask it in the public space that is TH-cam, because it might be relevant to other folks and has been widely under-addressed. I am trying to collect information on going through physical transition while having a rheumatic or auto-immune-disease, like non-radiographic ankylosing spondylitis controlled by Tnf-blockers in my case. Can you point us to any resources concerning the effects of HRT (T, DHT-blockers) and gender affirming surgeries on (n-r)AS? For example, can T, hysterectomies or invasive surgical procedures cause rheumatic flares, accelerate the progression of AS, worsen osteoporosis or inflammation? So far I could only find one specific paper on this. I would like to know more about the latest state of research and maybe names of practitioners and researchers who specialize in this area. Your help would be greatly appreciated!
WOW!!! im FTNB and ive never heard my wants for top surgery acknowledged! for years, ive been searching for a way to remove most of my breast tissue as i dont want mammary glands left behind, but i do want some fullness left as my dysphoria comes from the organ, not the fat, and as a plus sized NB person, imo it would look a little weird with an entirely flat chest and no fullness whatsoever.
i hope more surgeons begin to take on these options and i hope someone near me does too, as i live in the eastern US.
Thank you so much for this presentation. I still don't know if I want top surgery, since the most important thing to me is nipple sensitivity (I don't want to risk that at all, and I'm okay living life as a boy with boobs instead), but it's so nice to see all the options that are out there. What they actually look like, and how to think about them realistically. Even if I can't/won't have surgery for now, I want to learn as much as I can, since it makes me feel better and more in control of my life. This presentation has been by far the most comprehensive, inclusive, and helpful collection of information I've seen - and the first resource that doesn't assume every person seeking top surgery is a binary trans man who wants a completely flat/male chest at any cost.
I am very grateful for your feedback and the time that you took to leave our team such a kind message. Your appreciation for our work is validating and affirming for the work we are doing, and we hope to echo that appreciation for you!
I've commented on your videos before about wanting to get top surgery from you and I've come back again, about a year later. I am so close, I just did a session with a therapist to get my top surgery letter. soon I'll be able to set up a consult and get insurance stuff over. You actively go out of your way to support and include non-binary people, I am very touched. As a non-binary person myself I am determined to get top surgery from a person and a place that is so accepting of me and of course I am pleased with your post op results. I will come back one day when my dreams are achieved.
As a nonbinary person living in the bay area who is planning on getting top surgery, it's really reassuring to see a surgeon who is very informed about and open to nonbinary gender identities and expressions. I didn't know I had so many options to customize my chest! This video was really informational and helped me a lot in figuring out what I do and don't want. Hopefully this means I'll be able to clearly articulate my needs when I eventually have the opportunity to get it done!
This is such a wonderful compliment, thank you so much. It is extremely affirming to know that this content resonates with you & we are growing & expanding our resources to be more descriptive of our non-binary patient experience. I hope you consider staying connected with our team as you're exploring your options:)
this is incredible to see from a doctor. thank you so much for your open mind and kindness towards trans nb struggles.
This is so kind of you to say that. Thank YOU for watching!!
this is a wonderful presentation. i am a binary trans guy, but heavily considering going with no nipples if i get double incision just because i like the aesthetic and i would rather have no nipples at all than have nipples with limited sensation. i absolutely love how accepting you are of how other people wish to appear, and how much you care about non-binary people and their needs. that is a surprisingly difficult thing to find.
basically my thoughts right now are- if i can find a surgeon i really love who does buttonhole, i will do that. but if i need to do double incision i will opt out of nipple grafts entirely and have a bare chest :))
I’m so glad this video resonated with you! It is always up to the patient if they want the nipples removed or not. We do our best to accommodate and have compassion for everyone’s transition needs/desires. Thank you for watching!
Thank you very much in particular for the information at about 25:20 discussing the angle and overhang issue. This is something that is hard to identify as an aspect of dysphoria but explains very well my own experience. I see lots of focus on size but not so much on these details, movement/weight of breasts and actual embodied experience vs. just appearance.
This is great feedback, and I am very glad to read that this was helpful for you. Our non-binary top-surgery and body contouring resources expand on our website if you'd like to take a look :) !
Yes! I loathe the embodied experience of overhang, so much that it makes sleeping hard! The experience of having breasts is the thing that I hate really, so finding results that resonate and address that has been really hard but this video gives me hope.
there is absolutely nothing I want more in this world than a phalloplasty without a vaginectomy. When I asked my doctor and he said "There's almost a 100% chance of urinary complications, with or without urethral lengthening. Maybe in 10 to 15 years they'll figure it out." fml
God I hope surgeons around the world watch this. The button hole with the curvy scars I'm in love with, and the fish mouth seems like a good option too tbh?? I with I could get rid of overhang, and make my breasts into very gentle ovals, without changing much else - but when I say get rid of overhang, I mean I'm a very long GG so what I want basically would mean taking skin off of my ribs? Wish I could just do it myself with kitchen scissors lol.
I'm happy that you found some techniques that speak to you! We are proud to offer a number of different techniques & incisions to best suit each individual patient. A consultation with Dr. Mosser or Dr. Facque gives patients a unique surgical plan tailored to their presentation goals.
Consider checking out our other non-binary techniques here: www.genderconfirmation.com/non-binary-incisions-and-contouring/
I'm so happy to see someone talk about the options I might want to take as a non binary individual for when I transition in the future. I've had questions answered that I didn't even think about, or didn't know I had, I'm happy to say that I now have a better understanding of the different types of surgery and what happens during these surgeries because not knowing the pros and cons of these surgeries was a big concern of mine. I always see a lot more about ftm and mtf people than I see about non-binary people, and although I'm very happy to be aware of these options they have and I wouldn't even know about these options if I hadn't learned about the options binary trans folks have I'm glad to see something for non-binary people as well. It does make sense that there are less resources since we are a small community but I am glad that you're one of the resources I've found since it answers a lot of questions for me.
We are so happy that you found us! Thank you for your comment and validating that this information was helpful to you - it is our goal to deliver information and resources that make top surgery and gender affirming medical care more familiar for you and anyone that is interested in learning about our work. Please share any questions or thoughts that we may not have covered and our team would be honored to share our thoughts with you! If you would like to connect with the office more directly, please consider checking out ways to do so on our website www.genderconfirmation.com :)
Hi!! Im a nb lesbian (nb who identities as a lesbian bc thats the label that makes me the happiest) and I want to get top in the future but I'm still figuring some things out. I appreciate this video sm and your comments! The fact you say any chest is a nb chest made me stupid happy :-) tysm!!
same here !! this video made me rly happy
Welcome to Dr. Scott Mosser's Gender Confirmation Center TH-cam Channel! It made our day to read your comment and see that this video and our language resonated with you. If you have any questions or thoughts our team is available to chat anytime. Our website is also growing and we are always adding new resources to help build a tool that can prepare folks for to-surgery and gender affirming medical procedures here (www.genderconfirmation.com)
im so glad that the fishmouth incision was talked about because i was in that same boat. the only one that i really clicked with was that one. definitely hope to be able to come to you for surgery
I am glad that this video was helpful, please let us know if we can be any help in the steps leading up to seeing you in California!
I just found out about fishmouth and im wondering when someone was gonna tell me about it lmaoIt clicked instantly thats what i want. I was just gonna settle with like inverted-T but it didnt click like this.
I'm also looking into going to them for surgery
Your so awesome I definitely want you as my top surgery doctor
shawdy mac same but unfortunately I live in the UK. Dr Miles Berry did noahfinnce’s top surgery tho and it looks amazing.
Dr Scott Mosser is my dream surgeon I know I will one day be able to meet you for my top surgery,it will be my dream come true.Sending lots of love from Kenya.
Thank you for doing this presentation. I believe this will be a powerful tool when seeking medical intervention. It also gave me some factual information to really think about what I do want in that area without letting the dysphoria overpower me. I think this will empower a lot of people and you are a real asset to the community and the wider world.
Thank you very much. This is a very powerful sentiment and please know that we value what you share here, it informs our work at The Gender Confirmation Center. Please consider checking out our resources here on our website and sharing it with others that you might come in contact with: www.genderconfirmation.com
This is a really fascinating video. As a NB person this was really cool to see and definitely helps me understand more about top surgery options!
Thank you so much for your comment and welcome to Dr. Mosser's Gender Confirmation Center! Please let our team know if we can be helpful in sharing any additional resources or information. We are interactive on Facebook and Instagram as well :)
!!!!!! Took the words right out of my head, and seeing agender (what I am) mentioned under non binary made me Very happy, good video and presentation :)
hiya!
I know this is an old(ish) video, but I just want to thank you for making it exist!
I'm a nb afab, and I know I present feminine, but I've always felt masculine at my core. I've always lamented not being able to grow a beard, and I hate my reproductive system, yet I'm not sure between top surgery and breast reduction. thank you for making me feel valid in my identity 💕
I just finished the video, the picture on the right side (starting from 10:18, and to the end of that picture group) is exactly how I'd like my body to look, whereas my body looks more like the left side, unfortunately. I'm also unfortunately in Scotland and broke 😅🙈
edit: I do bind, because my dysphoria is too bad otherwise, but I admit I do tend to bind 'wrong'. I'll adjust everything outwards, and under my armpits to get the flattest look, and I do acknowledge the damage I'm doing but I just hate the too big bump otherwise. I'm size 32F and UGH. 😅
I'm glad that you found this content to be affirming! We totally understand that each individual approaching top surgery has different presentation goals in mind. Patients discuss all the available techniques with their surgeon during the consultation to design the best surgical plan for them.
We've also added content about newer nonbinary procedures on our website if you're interested in learning more about some new techniques :) www.genderconfirmation.com/non-binary-incisions-and-contouring/
Thank you so much for uploading this!!
After roughly 1 year on T my female fat deposits totally changed and my body looks male. I thought I was going to have to have body contouring but I definitely don’t need it at all. I became very thin and muscular. I had really hypertrophic scarring and required steroid injections on my scarring so I tattooed over the scar. I’m super happy with my chest surgery results. Everyone thinks I look great.
I'd be curious to see if you've had any patients who wanted fishmouth-style incisions but no nipples. Do you still have issues with extra tissue left behind? Would you still call it a fishmouth, or would it be a modified double incision? I understand that's probably not a common request, as keeping nipple sensation (and, consequently, the nipples) is half the point of the different procedure, but I'm sure you've had at least one.
Hi there, these are all great questions. Individuals can choose to have no-nipples for any incision type and doing so is a completely valid choice. If an individual wanted to have a fishmouth procedure with no nipples this would need to be discussed between the patient ant their surgeon, but would not be considered a modified double incision. The two techniques are different. Check out the differences between a Fishmouth procedure and a Double Incision procedure here on our website: www.genderconfirmation.com/surgery/fishmouth/
I'm in germany and I'm pretty sure I want double incision with no nipple grafts and straight scars that are slightly diagonal. The problem is that surgeons here tend to be a bit... old-fashioned. I've heard of many people who have asked their surgeons to get no nipple grafts and they got told that that was not an option since it didn't look like a traditional male chest. I also have to pretend I'm a binary trans guy or else I won't get anything covered by insurance (and also I've heard that enbyphobia is also widespread among doctors who are treating trans people like for example surgeons). Many use the excuse of wanting to get them tattooed instead of grafted for easier healing but that wouldn't make sense for me since I'm most likely elegible for peri or maybe even keyhole. So I either have to come up with a really good story to explain why I as a totally binary trans man who wants totally binary looking results would want to get double incision and no nipple grafts, or I need to find a surgeon that is cool about those things.
If y'all know any surgeons in germany that are ok with doing double incision without nipple grafts then I would be very grateful if you told me. Also if you have any negative experiences about that it would also be helpful so that I know which surgeons to avoid.
Thank you for feeling comfortable to share your experience of this process with us. It does sound like you’ve made a great deal of progress in your search for the perfect surgeon for your surgery, and I’m sorry that it’s been so difficult to find a surgeon who aligns with your desired surgical outcomes. World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) does have an international list of surgeons who meet WPATH standards. We recommend that patients who aren’t able to travel to The Gender Confirmation Center find a surgeon from this. This is the best resource that we can pass along to folks outside of the US. Please continue to reach out to us here, or on any of our social media, if we can be of anymore help!
www.wpath.org/provider/search
This is exactly what I needed! It helped me close in on what I want. Thank you for sharing this!
Thanks for the kind words! Happy to help you find some helpful information :)
Excellent talk, both from the perspective of someone who's going into a research field that involves a fair amount of (animal) surgery and of someone who's in consultations for top. (Hate being east coast...) I consider myself a binary man but it REALLY bugs me that there's so little transparency about what anatomical attributes (direction of nerve growth, blood supply, skin tension, issues with scar pursing in peri, enough opening for tissue removal, etc) limit how top surgery can defacto be performed. I dislike how DI outcomes look (too flat, don't make sense with my body type or male family members) enough that I'd rather have the same amount of scarring using an 'oddball' method like fishmouth, but the option may just not be available to me.
Thank you very much for your kind words! I would encourage you to connect with out team to discuss these goals during a consultation with Dr. Mosser and get an idea of what is going to help you achieve your goals. We also have folks travel to us from the east coast often, and have some of our transgender staff members that work remotely from the east coast that can be helpful in sharing tips & tricks for finding gender affirming care in different cities.
A fantastic talk, thank you. I would've liked to see some real life pictures of the "overhang vs no overhang" comparison that he made between buttonhole vs breast reduction. It doesn't seem like there are examples of this on your website either, would be great if these were added!
You want to know a really good category to be in? Undefined ❤️🙏. Allowing myself to always grow, expand and develop my core self and just be the spiritual being I am whilst having this human experience. That to me is being part of the process at the fullest ❣️
"blank chest" sounds good for an agender me!
Boobs are so gross to me, I really wish mine were just gone...
wow. what a wonderfully thorough exploration of options for surgery. You've given me things to think about.
Thank you much for the kind words! :) It is so wonderful to be able to share in the journey of discovering infinite possibilities together!! For more inspiration, feel free to explore our "Before & After" photos on our website: www.genderconfirmation.com/before-after/
My dream is to one day see Dr Scott Mosser.
I have hopes that one day I will have money for the surgery and to travel all the way from Kenya to meet my favourite Dr Scott
We hope that one day we are able to meet you, too! :) There are options to help pay for your surgery. We have compiled a list of resources for folks needing assistance here: www.genderconfirmation.com/blog/lift-financing-burden-gender-confirmation-surgery/
Thank you so much for this!! I feel even more prepared to explain to my surgeon what resonated with me!!
That is wonderful, and really one of the major goals behind our reason for sharing this content. Please let us know if our team can be helpful in guiding your care providers through our resources, and visit our website here: www.genderconfirmation.com
This video helped me so so much. Thank you for sharing this. Its a life changer
I don't want to have nipples at all. Even if they will have no feeling at all after their transplantation. I have "nipple dysphoria".
The surgeon who will be doing my tip surgery at Stanford said that he has never had body contouring approved by insurance. Have you had the same experience with your patients? If so, why is it so hard for them to grasp that we dont want huge hips?
It's difficult to give a simple answer for this. Unfortunately, an increasing number of insurance companies have been dropping coverage for body contouring, but doing so in a rather diabolical way. They approve liposuction but then will only pay practices a very small amount which is not enough to cover basic costs. We are working to engage with insurance companies to help them understand that some (though not all) liposuction is essential for the gender journey and insurance companies need to support all relevant parts of the gender journey. Right now, insurance coverage for body contouring depends on an individual and their exact variation of an insurance plan at a specific given time. It also depends on how particular an insurance company is. We have been able to cut through red tape with some companies when a patient has a strong HR department in their company who will advocate for them.
Hello! Around the 40 minute mark you mention that you don't really do the T-anchor incision style anymore, but I wasn't clear... do you still use this incision type for breast reductions and radical reductions?
Thank you so much for this wonderful talk.
T style is still something that is practiced. Each individual is different and what’s most suitable depends on a few factors. Find out more on our website here: www.genderconfirmation.com/?s=T+incision
I’m ftm but I want to get aggressive breast reduction. B it I notice a lot of surgeon doesn’t do it .
With aggressive Breast reduction can it still look somewhat masculine or muscular look ??
Thanks for reaching out! Aggressive breast reduction doesn’t typically look muscular. For more info on types of chest reconstruction, feel free to visit www.genderconfirmation.com/surgery/
I looked at a bunch of incisions & saw fishmouth & said "weird, that's a no from me" & then I got to the bottom & nothing spoke to me, then I looked back up & fishmouth just... I thought it was weird at first but it's actually calling to me. I really like it. I dont know if I like it or not
Thank you SO MUCH for this. Life saving
I would Want a non-binary chest but I’m quite alright with my lesbian appearance? How would I go about it as I’m not “dysphoric”.
Dr. Mosser & The Gender Confirmation Center provide gender affirming top-surgery procedures for the transgender, non-binary & gender expansive community members and those that identify with this experience. Gender identity & sexual orientation are very different from one another. For example, an individual can have a non-binary gender identity and a sexual orientation identity as a lesbian and present both of these identities as valid at the same time. If a non-binary chest appearance in any variation would achieve a sense of euphoria for you is a question that you would need to discuss with a primary medical provider & your chosen top surgeon. Does this help answer your question?
Waht if i just want to use the umbrella term Non-binary as my label (sort of) and not define it to, like Genderqueer, Genderfulid usw.
That’s perfectly fine! Many people only use nonbinary and don’t use any more specific labels. At the end of the day, it’s your identity and you get to define it how you want.
Couldn't have said it better myself! Thanks for sharing, August! You absolutely can! Dr. Mosser speaks on this subject here: www.genderconfirmation.com/non-binary/
Sucks that you’re in Cali and I’m all the way in NJ. You seem like an amazing surgeon!!!
Dr. Mosser works with individuals from all over the world, and our team is available to help coordinate & communicate accessible ways to travel & lodge in San Francisco. Please connect with us on Instagram (@genderconfirmationcenter), Facebook (@genderconfirmation) our visit our website resources here to become familiar with San Francisco: www.genderconfirmation.com/travel-tips
how I wish Bill Nye explained gender tbh
Informative talk. Thank you. Do you accept Healthnet Blue and Gold insurance?
Thank you for watching the presentation! We hope you can share it with others that might find it helpful. We do, and you can view a full list of insurances we accept here: www.genderconfirmation.com/about-us/insurances-accepted/
This is extremely helpful. Thank you so much
Really love all the graphics in this. I've never even heard of the fishmouth!
I am glad that you enjoyed the graphics, you can read more about the Fishmouth incision here : www.genderconfirmation.com/surgery/fishmouth/
would top surgery be more difficult if someone has already had a breast reduction?
There are some added implications for folks who have had a previous chest reduction; however, top surgery is still a possibility! Generally, the procedure types are more limited for these folks. This question is more thoroughly answered on our website (www.genderconfirmation.com/having-top-surgery-after-a-breast-reduction/), but this would also be a great conversation to have with Dr. Mosser during a consultation!
how do we get someone like you, who cares enough about non binary folk in the NAVY. I am currently going through the transgender process and it feels like they are almost pushing me into a more male category. they have their ways on FTM, but nothing for non binary people. Anyway, how do i get YOU to complete the surgery :) also thank you for your amazing videos!!
Dr.Scott Mosser I have a question I’m 21 years old and I have type 2 diabetes.Is it possible for me to have top surgery
This will be a discussion that we would need to have during your free consultation. We are accepting new free virtual consultations now and encourage you to reach out to us here! (info@genderconfirmation.com) and include "Free Virtual Consultation" in your subject line! Before taking these steps, please know we are located in San Francisco, California and our website is available for additional learning: www.genderconfirmation.com
You’re in Arizona?
No, we are located in San Francisco, California :)
Can people who are NB and have disphoria get covered by insurance. What if my chest is very large now? is it worth even going in :( I am like a 34 G
Hey there, I am glad you are connecting with our team. Yes, folks who identify as non-binary and have insurance work with their insurance company to have this procedure covered. Check out a list of insurances that Dr. Mosser works with here. Dr. Mosser's Insurance Advocacy team is dedicated to making sure you have someone to answer all of your insurance questions and can be contact on our website as well: www.genderconfirmation.com/about-us/insurances-accepted/
Where are your country Dr?
Dr. Mosser is located in San Francisco, California in the United States of America
Why does a non binary look mean keeping your developed adult chest if you are AMAB but getting elective surgery to look prepubescent if you are AFAB?
This is a really important question and one we are working to develop more content around, thank you for asking. To be very clear, The Gender Confirmation Center does not believe that there is any single way to be, or describe non-binary presentation. This particular context was framed to introduce the topic and we passionately understand the need to expand our content to reflect the many ways that non-binary bodies present.
Where was this presented?
Thank you for asking! The Philadelphia Transgender Wellness Conference in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania at the Convention Center in 2019 :)
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Well, this doc is fabulous!
Thank you so much for those kind words! :)
I can't lie... this felt incredibly focused on AFAB nonbinary people. That disappoints me. It kinda others me out even more as an AMAB nonbinary person. This video covers a lot of masculinization of feminine bodies, to a neutral point, rather than the feminization of masculine bodies to that point.
We appreciate your feedback! You are correct about this presentation, it is about FTN Non-Binary surgical options. From the title and such, we completely understand how that would not be clear, and we appreciate your bringing this to our attention. We are currently working on updating the language we use in regards to procedures as well as educational content, to foster more inclusivity beyond the binary, and we do offer MTN top surgery and body contouring.
@@genderconfirmationcenter Thanks for the reply. I think it just seems to be apart of a wider discussion and examination that may need to be had about why most nonbinary people are AFAB. This is true in media as well, where most nonbinary representation comes from the look of "AFAB+androgynous+wearing mens business casual".
Generally, I just wish there was better representation everywhere for MTN people. There's lots of surgical options as an MTN I'm considering (BBL, body contouring stuff) to achieve that same "slender but androgynous form". I wish I knew what resources to look for in that regard. I don't even see a lot of results for mtf body contouring, surprisingly.
Wow, thank you!
I'm glad that you found our content :) thank you for watching!
If removing breasts is "neutral" aren't you basically saying a male physique is default?
Thanks for your question! Any chest is non-binary if someone identifies as such (with or without top surgery). What’s discussed in this hour presentation is the aspects of a pre pubescent chest prior to a pubertal period, breast removal, reduction and also breast augmentation. The way male physique is discussed is used to help frame the conversation but is not the center of the presentation. If you want to explore the presentation fully please read the description of the video as it breaks down what time periods things are discussed.
Females don't have breasts until puberty and even then, there are flat chested females... not having breasts isn't a male physique.
@@genderconfirmationcenter dr.scott you're doing so good (: ignore them. I'm proud of how smart and educated you are in your field. Your response was proper (:
What standards are in place to ensure vulnerable people aren’t being overly influenced by the current non -binary gender hype and making the wrong decisions?
@@xbduf4gb one must be recommended via gender therapist in order to get surgery
A therapist will not reccomend you for surgery if your chest doesnt have some sort of negative impact on your life specifically "gender dysphoryia".
Therefore if someones who's confused comes in, it's very easy to tell the difference between them and someone actually struggling with the way they are perceived.
Simple science.
Would be happy to answer any other questions you have.
non binary doesnt look like one thing tho:(
You're completely right in calling this forward. Our goal with this presentation is not to state what Nonbinary is, but rather demonstrate how gender affirming top-surgery procedures are much more dynamic, intimate and expansive than most folks realize and is not a procedure that is limited to affirming binary gender identities. I hope that this helps share a stronger understanding for what our intention was with this presentation.
What does a non-binary chest look like? Seeing as this does nor occur in human biology.
Any chest can be a non-binary chest if a person's gender identify is aligned with a non-binary gender expression and they identify as such. Consider checking out our resources here about non-binary top-surgery procedures that may be helpful to you: www.genderconfirmation.com/non-binary/
Dr. Scott Mosser, Transgender Top Surgeon If biological females have breasts removed they will have a post mastectomy chest with contouring. They will still look female to the casual observer unless they are on testosterone. I think it is important to encourage your patients to stay in touch with reality and minimise unrealistic expectations that they are getting a “non-binary” chest.
@Alx I had this surgery and it was exactly what I was looking for. I don’t look male or female, hence NonBinary. I’m not interested in looking male, so I don’t take testosterone. In clothes I look like I did before puberty. I just look like me with no unwanted sexual features. That’s different from adult females with small chests like ballerinas, gymnasts, yoga instructors, etc. They still have visible A-cups.
@@xbduf4gb It does not matter what you look like. It does not matter if someone looked female to you, yet they identify as nonbinary. They are still nonbinary. You dont make sense?
What if it’s just a phase?
It is exceptionally rare for patients to regret transitioning genders. Although rare, regret after surgery is often due to the patient’s unrealistic expectations, or due to the very rare complications from surgery, or (unfortunately) due to a poor result executed by an inexperienced surgeon. This is why Dr. Mosser specializes in transgender surgery, and emphasizes coordination with the patient’s support team, including physicians, family members, partners, or close friends assisting in the transition.
@@genderconfirmationcenter Do you think calling it a non-binary look with top surgery could foster unrealistic expectations because essentially the result will be like a FTM chest not a “non-binary” chest?
No, anyone that identifies as non-binary is non-binary, and therefore their chest is a non-binary chest presentation.
@@genderconfirmationcenter There are a large number of FTM de-transitioners these days. I don’t think it is fair to blame the patient. Doctors have a duty of care to ensure patients are truly ready before allowing them to proceed with an irreversible intervention.
@@xz740 you sound very confident for a person on TH-cam rather than a surgeon please post some articles or studies I am really interested to see some data