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MAJOR CHANGES! Ruger American Gen II (REVIEW)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ธ.ค. 2023
- Become a Channel Member! / @masonoutdoors_masonle... The new Ruger American Standard Gen II rifle is Ruger's update to its wildly popular Ruger American hunting rifle and they have made a lot of very interesting changes based on user feedback. Watch this short review to see an overview of all the major changes between the Ruger American Gen II vs the Ruger American Gen 1.
Damn they put the rifling on the outside this time too.
Maximum obturation
It’s called fluting it’s suppose to make the barrel lighter but I’m sure you already knew that 😂 👍🏼
@@ThehermdermYeah pretty sure it was a joke 😂
@@Thehermderm I didn't lol thank you for the knowledge
@@strikereureka4562 people also say the extra surface area acts like a radiator and helps cool your barrel faster but I don't think there has been any actual tests of this
The fact that they have a 3 position safety and the bolt will lock on safe. I might buy one now.
I honestly think that a three-position safety is the best feature a rifle can have. I just think two-positions are a safety concern
It can also cost you a successful hunt if you try to take a shot with the bolt halfway open. Never happened to me, but I'm glad to see they fixed the 2 problems I have with my gun.
My Browning bolt actions have a 2 position safety that locks the bolt but it has a bolt lock bypass but if your worried about safety get a lever action and get a double stage safety
@@johnbunch6006а как же всё остальное? 😂
Are they available in Stainless-Steel, if not then no deal.?!!
The safety is probably the most effective improvement, but that barrel looks awesome
Especially for the price
A spiral fluted barrel is quite beautiful and effective as it reduces the weight of the barrel consoderably while helping cool the barrel. Surprised it's going for as cheap as it is.
Yeah the fluting also take down some weight
Im not an expert so forgive me for the dumb question, but why do you need a safety that also locks the bolt?
@@t.d.roverdrive1378i feel a three position safety would be more mistake-prone than a two position safety
If you're going to buy ruger firearms. I'd highly suggest you buy shares of ruger ( ticker symbol RGR )
They pay a quarterly dividend and reward their shareholders. I received enough last year in dividends to purchase a ruger rifle. 👍
Thanx for thst tip.. Good stuff . Cheers ☕️😎💨
How many shares you talking? 3% dividends?
What's a ticker?
Don't tell people what stocks to buy. RGR is been a crap stock since 2012. If you want to buy it to support a firearm manufacturer then fine, but don't give people financial advice.
@@waterguy1092 In the year 2024. The ticker . Is the person who puts the current prices minute to minute on the screen.. Its a computer.. But Im sure they still have tickers around.. Back in the day. They were named tickers , After the ticker tape machine they operated.. Info was originally transferred by a morse code type of machine that use to spit out Ticker Tape with the informationon the tape...Also the page with the stocks and its values are called the ticker by some.. So if you looking in todays newspaper, Its the page you reading With all the stocks and prices.. If its on your phone. Then its the page of info you readung on the screen. ✌️😎
Forgot to mention the pic rail. That’s a huge improvement/change.
The newer gen 1’s have been coming with a pic rail for a while now…like probably the last 2-3 years
I’ve bought 1/2 dozen or so Ruger Americans. I’ve never seen one come without a pic tail.
pic tail.
@@jasonparent7967I was selling them back in 2019, they had rails on them.
My gen 1 came with a pic rail, but mine is 300 blackout not .308
The AICS magazine is extremely important, one of the main reasons why I hated my Ruger American was that my original magazine was so bad that it broke during my hunt and didn't feed when I needed it to. I ended up getting a magwell replacement and a new AICS magazines and it worked perfectly.
Yeah AICS mags should be the standard for bolt actions at this point
@@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind even the small ones at the very least, if people really don't want a bulky magazine than a 2-3 rounder would be just fine. Otherwise get a larger one.
Hate aics mags…. I do not want a protruding magazine on a hunting rifle .. period . I have also heard all the complaints about the original rotary mag breaking. I have no idea what people do with their magazines to make them break. I have a gen 1 first run American with the plastic follower in the rotary mag which was made metal the following year and I have never had a failure . I mean , I imagine if you threw it on the ground it would break…. Other than that I don’t know what folks are doing. Unless they are literally failing from the factory or something. But yeah I know it’s “tacti-cool” to have some sort of protruding magazine but most folks aren’t western hunters shooting from a bipod most of us are in elevated stands or in a tree , and protruding mags are problematic for that .
@danielsmith8659
I've done a lot of hunting on the ground and in stands and have never encountered any issue with the whole inch or so exposed on a 5rnd AICS pattern mag. Regardless, if your position is that you do not want any exposed mag, it makes virtually no sense to go with any variety of detachable box mag. Completely flush mags and most states magazine limits on hunting rifles would be limiting the capacity to where you should probably just go with a fixed internal magazine instead of any detachable mag anyway
@@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind and I’m not opposed that. I have no reason to have more than 3-4 rounds with me deer hunting . I just don’t. But yeah I like my attached mag guns. M77, gen 1 bergara b14. All good to me , I like the rotary mag in the American , I just do, sure in most scenarios , I don’t have my rifle in a position where the mag matters , but there is the occasional time when I do. I imagine most folks either don’t care or actually like the new mags or ruger wouldn’t have done it
Aics mags is a game changer, nice to be on a non proprietary
pretty east to swap out the gen 1 short action wells for a gen 1 predator aics one. did it on my 243 compact.
@@johnowen6507 can you give me more info on this mag well swap? I've got a 22-250 and would love to swap out the mag well
@@joshw6212 22-250 doesn't feed reliably out of the aics pattern mag due to the tapered cartridge shape and straight mag shape. i bought a used take off stock off eBay for my conversion. it had all the bottom components with it.
The fluting and rifling on that barrel looks absolutely amazing just from looking at the outside. Oh my. 😊
You can see the rifling from the outside wow you just have really good eyes
Rifling?
3 pos safety and locking bolt is a difference maker for me. I'll never buy another bolt gun without that
Looking forward to the 7mm prc version of ranch gen 2 Hoping they put on a 24-26" barrel too.
7 PRC was purpose built to be efficient in shorter barrels so doubt you’ll see a 24-26” on that
It’ll be a 22’ barrel in the predator
Also.... all cartridges based on the 308 Winchester, are becoming my favorites.
Especially the 7mm-08, which could be the most perfect Deer cartridge, too.
(BUT me being different, I prefer the 358 Winchester first!)
I checked one out yesterday for about $80 more it's a good update. However I'm not replacing my gen 1 .350 legend
Only 80 more? That's super impressive
I'd get rid of my Gen 1 300 blackout for one of these Gen 2.
I just picked up a gen 2 ranch in 5.56 with the AR magwell. Very stoked to get out and try it. As far as stock rigidity I don’t think I’ll be hard enough on it to break the free float. One thing I wish was that the spacer was in 2-3 pieces like on my Magpul hunter stock. He thing that helped push for this was if I remove the spacer it’s I believe 12” they said and the kids can practice with it.
I hope they're gonna make one without the fluted barrel. That spiral fluted barrel is gonna be a polarizing design choice.
The 450 Bushmaster isn’t fluted on the Gen 2’s
Well said and good use of vocabulary brah!
100% polarizing indeed…..that spiral fluting is gonna be a love it or a hate it deal.
That stock looks like H-S precision.
If they do not, I'd call the whole project a flop. Looks cheap AF
Came looking for this comment. Too many people 🍆 riding the barrel. It looks cool but not everybody likes it
Honestly i like straight flutes better but i like this one alot actually
The stock looks great and adjustable features are great. I do not care for the spiral design at all. My Ruger American already has the AICS style magazine but still has the old stock & saftey. Upgrading the stock would cost as much or more than what I paid for the gun overall so I'll just have to make due.
Look up how to make a stock from hand. Ima use a 2x4 because.....convince!
Buy the magpul hunter stock.
That lock makes it better used to have people say the ammo was no good but then shoot them out my single shot what happened was the bolt would get bumped enough to where it wasn’t making full contact with the primers this might make these a good gun now
Hell of a job going into detail about this rifle if it wasn’t on my list before it is now
no accu trigger on new one...seems like a big difference
As a lifetime m77 user the 3 position safety is a game changer for me. Now I have to decide on what caliber to get!
I never even thought of buying the gen 1 but that gen 2 looks sweet.
I get so tired of people shitting on Rugers. It’s a great company that consistently makes great firearms.
Unlikely I'd buy any Ruger bolt action. But I do love your choice of both 308 Win & 7mm-08. 🤠
I’ve never had one but the action on my brand new 5.56 gen 2 with AR magwell feels nice. As a Nebraska my late college buddy was all about Ruger and their “partnership” with our home state Hornady on new loads and offerings.
Why not? Are you a communist?
Nice rifle. Ruger is getting close and working to be par with the higher end Weatherby and Christensen rifles. 😊
Впервые вижу нарезы стволов снаружи! 😂
If you have had a 308 this while time how come no 308 reviews?
Also. Please dont put the word out how good 7mm-08 is. I want to be able to find ammo
Exactly correct on the 7-08, whenever I am asked about it, I tell how horribly inaccurate it is. I mean so much so, when my sone bought his first rifle, that was the caliber of choice. I guess he has heard my conversations with my buddies about my fishing and hunting spots
@@johncross323the .25-08 is no slouch, either...
@@JohnTBlockdefinitely isn’t but almost impossible to find factory ammo or even rifles chambered in it anymore…real shame
Never had a problem finding 7mm-08 and I don't own one.Shit,even Walmart had it and they got nothing
The end of the day considering it's necked down 308 comparison/review is pretty much the same
I’ve got the gen 1 and I bought a mdt chassis for it so I could run aics mags; the fact they went to that on the gen 2 is very impressive and appreciated. I love my American but I’ve had to customize it to get it to where I want it, this update looks great!
That barrel looks amazing . And the splash paiting .
The polished bolt is nice too
The one thing preventing me from buying rifle arms, is the looks, and that I can make my own. With legal stuff, and such. And I've got many plans for exotic guns I am going to make
I'd like a 20 inch 6.8 western
They had a .204 at my local gun store and I really liked the Gen II. It was a 20” barrel, and I had thought the exact same as you. If only they’d come out with the 6.8 Western, I’d buy it immediately.
Nice Ruger. Lots of goodies.
That being said, I'm Old School and I will keep my stainless Ruger M77 MkII as it has a three position safety, bullet proof laminate stock. Still hitting the black out to 800m if I do my part.
IMHO , I firmly believe that is/was the Zenith of Rugers rifles and should have kept them in the inventory. Everything since has been chasing "Fads". Just being honest. 😊
They still make excellent double action revolvers!
The Ruger American line is cheaply made and not worthy of the Ruger brand.
The mag change is huge for all in one rifle enthusiasts. Same with the spiral fluting, which allows for longer sustained fire.
Very true but how much sustained firing are you really going to do with a bolt action? Usually at hunting maybe two shots .at the range probably not going to hotdogs it very much either or to the point very a fluted barrel would be necessary..just a selling point for ruger my gen 1 450bm wont be replaced by gen 2 I did however get the bolt fluted just because it looks cool lol
Spiral fluting does that on WW1 heavy machine guns sure. But it has basically zero benefit on here aside from making it marginally heavier.
Ive never been the biggest fan of bolt actions but this one looks damn amazing
Ruger makes excellent firearms, nice rifles!!!
Agreeing with 3position safety locking bolt in place
It feels like they’re making the perfect medium between the Bergara HMR and the Mossberg MVP. I didn’t like the splatter coat on the HMR until I bought one, and then it went from ugly duckling to favorite rifle surprisingly quickly.
I like how the sling mount is recessed into the stock too
Gen.2: Like the look of the stock (do they do brown/khaki?) Configerable stock & comb. ✅
Better safety option. ✅
That twist fluted barrel? Ahh(!) Looks silly - but if it works for cooling ... 😐
Me? I reckon I'd be happy enough with the Gen.1, particularly if I'd already got one. Couldn't see a point in changing what works just to get 'the latest thing'.
It’s a beautiful rifle for sure. I am liking all the upgrades
Hmm the magazine on the newer gen 2 doesn't actually sit completely flush with the furniture or body of the rifle, as it does with the original model. Which I think looks a little slicker on the Gen 1, but the paddle mag release is a pretty nice feature. Other then that the Gen 2 takes the cake with several upgraded features.
7-08 around me is awesome. The 140SP does a pass through for every deer I’ve gotten. The lack of recoil has allowed me multiple deer on the stand for drives as accuracy is more than sufficient. I’ll be looking at this for my granddaughter as it will likely take anything she ever needs in my state.
Almost everything, the new version makes Ruger American range rifle even more desirable 👍
Where to begin? Sooo many improvements. 3-position, fluted, threaded, adjustable comb, and LOP? Amazing
Love my ruger american predator I'll try get this one also. Thanks for the video.
Glad to be of service!
And the MSRP of the Gen 2 puts it in direct competition with the base model Winchester Model 70. American is no longer a budget intro rifle.
Base model that doesn’t have cerakote, isn’t threaded and can’t adjust LOP…nothing wrong with a “budget” rifle stepping up a little and offering a competitive option. It’s like a Honda civic…they used to be cheap small economy cars…nowadays they’re bigger than an original accord and far from budget…but they have what consumers want
@scotteger6271 this is true. Was stating what I saw. I am not telling people what to got. I got my American Standard 223 in 2016ish for 430 and that I what I am used to out of the American.
@@Calaveras32Spcl fair enough I have a 2014 American all weather compact…it wasn’t expensive…it’s built way better than the Gen 1’s they’ve been building for the last few years…that said these new ones are well built and offer a lot right out of the box. They don’t really need to make a regular and compact model now, since the LOP is adjustable…appealing for someone like me with 2 kids. The compact I have, for my daughters, has a fixed 12.5” LOP, which might be too long when they first start shooting and might get too short as they grow. So with something like the Gen 2 I could buy the spacer kit (annoying it isn’t just included, and they’re charging $30 for black plastic)…and I’d have a rifle that goes from 12” to 12.75” to 13.25” to 13.75”
Final length…could be a lifetime rifle for a youth to adult.
@@scotteger6271 that is good. Would be nice to see them bring out something new to complete with the Savage Axis since the American is mid level.
Do you think psa will start making hunting rifles soon?
I think the new version looks much better. Stepping up their game to compete with other manufacturers. I’m sure the price point is more but sharp looking rifle.
Finally a magazine that will feed properly, the old rifle that I had would not feed out of magizine
Ruger almost always seem to hit the nail on the head. Thankfully they now own Marlin too.
YES...lost a 35rem gold trigger 336 in house fire back in 2019...I WILL HAVE ONE EVEN AT OVER 1200 BUCKS! In the same fire "retardent" safe was a 243 youth and 6.5 creed preditor gen 1! Friend gave me a Rem 710 (with metal guts...2001 with left over 700) so i could hunt that fall afterwords!
@@bryanrmcnair01 that's painful brother! Good luck with your next purchase! I'm looking at the 1894 in 44mag
Sir this has to be one of the best and most informative shorts I’ve seen, gained a sub
I have a gen 1 6.5 Creedmoor. It is a tack driver, can cover my average 3 round group with a dime. I despised the 2 position safety, no bolt lock. Terrible when pushing through brush with rifle slinged. So many times found bolt open, round that was chambered missing.
I like the " Lines " of my Original Ruger American but i do like the looks of the Buttstock - its adjustability - and the newer style magazines
so many improvements add the new butt pad from Backfire makes sense too.
I got this in .223 for my thermal! Very impressed with this rifle
All of them, a much improved rifle over the gen 1.
I also have both and many other Ruger rifles.
I personally just find they fit my preferences in general and I'm going to find tradeoffs from one to the other no matter what they do.
And this hasn't been an exception. Which I like more is going to come to what I'm hunting in what particular conditions.
Both these are big game rifles. My 308 has been modified to the point there isn't a discernable difference but don't have buyers remorse.
My main thing is I like Ruger magazines.
An AR or AK platform is the only thing I prefer if sometimes just tolerate a magazine sticking out.
But this is just me and my personal preferences.
Pretty much any firearm is a tool and I ask myself what is the right job for this tool.
One of my favorites is a 12ga Remington bolt action Goose Hunting model.
That's like a 20oz claw hammer. It's really versatile tool if I was forced to pick only one to get by with.😅
Fave updates in order: 1) AICS mag compatible; 2) fluted & threaded barrel; 3) stock
Base to base there's some upgrades but doesn't seem much diff than a gen 1 in camo. You don't get the decorative barrel twist or larger bolt knob, but had diff mag styles depending on the calibur
I'm interested to see gen2 once other models are released...but they don't even have a 30-06 avail yet last I checked. Feels like they premiered it too early to me
My youngest son is looking at this new Gen2 as a possibility for his first deer/elk rifle. He is pretty serious about the Weatherby Vanguard. A Savage 110 Apex Storm is a possibility also.
Both are very nice “ make one Yer Fave’ and the other is a Backup.
Straight fluted barrels look great.
Spiral fluted barrels look terrible.
In my opinion of course and I appreciate there is no difference in function.
Big difference in total length of actual fluting by making it a spiral though…they had to cut weight out of the short heavy barrel
I was on board until the 3 position safety
Sounds more efficient when it comes to performance, but I personally like the look of the gen 1 308. But then again, the older a rifle or bow, the more likely I am to prefer its looks. I have a one piece yew longbow with elk antler nocks and a hemp string, and to me it is far more beautiful than any compound bow I’ve ever held.
Not all that heavy but fluting the barrel is still a good help, not to mention better grip than the gen 1's smoothed out plastic.
they’re insanely light, I was surprised. Made the Savage feel like it was twice the weight
The only thing I don’t like about it that that they are shortening the barrels, I think the longest barrel you can get is 22 inches even in the magnums like 7 prc
Make a Gen2 with a non fluted barrel and I may get one.
What's wrong with a fluted barrel? Has more surface area to cool down faster and it's lighter without sacrificing strength. Spiral fluted barrels are actually MORE rigid than standard barrels. They say spiral fluted barrels also equalize the gas pressure as well but idk about that.
Why is that?
The barrel profile they used would likely be too heavy without the fluting…they’re really catering to the suppressor crowd with the Gen 2
I don't have a problem with the spiral fluted barrel.
My problem with the gen 2 is the barrel length.
I would rather have a 22 inch barrel, threaded or not.
I don't need the extra muzzle blast from a brake, especially on an already low recoil 7mm-08.
Also, a lot of us can't afford a suppressor that costs more than the rifle and the extra tax fee the feds want to rape us with.
Just my 2 cents.....
I don't have a problem with the spiral fluted barrel.
My problem with the gen 2 is the barrel length.
I would rather have a 22 inch barrel, threaded or not.
I don't need the extra muzzle blast from a brake, especially on an already low recoil 7mm-08.
Also, a lot of us can't afford a suppressor that costs more than the rifle and the extra tax fee the feds want to rape us with.
Just my 2 cents.....
I like the look and versatility of gen 2
Im very exited about it… as long as They don’t all have 20” barrels
2” of barrel isn’t going to make one bit of difference sub 500 yards hunting
it depends on sub model. Ranch is 16.5”, Standard is 20”, Predator is 22”
The GenII is a step to sell more rifles that appeal to the tacticle crowd. personally I love it.
Love the new design, better bolt, no zipper sounds, fluting and muzzle brake
7mm-08 is such an underrated round
Seems like they heard what their customers wanted and delivered. Love to see it I hope it doesn’t come with a significant price increase
Looks great. I'd rather it didn't have a fluted barrel, but I guess I could live with it. Good job on the update!
This Gen 2 Ruger looks fantastic but Ruger has taken a budget rifle and made it not so budget anymore
Yea it's funny though people would buy the ruger american and do a bunch of upgrades. I saw it for $599 listed on sportsman's warehouse. Thats not a bad deal if it's actually correct.
Buy gen one. Update the things you want updated only.
Ya i paid 400 for 4 of my americans when they first came out... now the price is double
@@3eightiesopinion524it isn’t double that’s a little exaggerated. They are more expensive these days at about $475 for a standard Gen 1…some can be more…local gun shop has Gen 1’s for $549…same place has Gen 2’s for $599…kind of weird
@@scotteger6271 ya msrp is 800 for the gen 2s though
I boston creamed when you said "chambered in seven millimeter ought eight"
Looks like all pretty good improvements.
I have a gen 1 in .308. The gen 2 looks pretty nice. I like the 3 position safety.
Wow the gen 1 is my favorite rifle but it took a bit to get it where I like it. They seem to have just done that from the factory and it looks badass! I’ll be looking for one now!
I love it but i just want a two position safety
Only thing that is an issue with me. Is the gen 2 mag release. I like the gen1 that is more flush.
I have the gen 1 in 30-06 really wish it had a cheek pad, definitely my favorite upgrade
I think they both look great. I have two Ruger 22 caliber rifles. I have a 10/22 and a Ruger American Rimfire.
I liked the locked bolt feature.
Looks good.but i wish fluted barrel and comp were just an option and not stock.
I'm trying to buy one , but there's none out yet . Feild and stream did a review on it .. they love it .
I’d love to know about how wobbly the bolt is, how flimsy is the polymer stock, how accurately does the rifle shoot?
Interested to see if the magpul hunter stock will mount onto the gen 2s. The barrel is really cool, but I was planning on getting one and throwing the magpul stock on it to get some mlock attachments.
gen 2 look cool but i’ve got a gen 1 that i love dearly
Bolt lock... Now would be a bother improvement would be a metal mag
The rifle looks fine, but I simply hate the mag release. That one thing forced a hard no from me. Wish it was less bumpable because I was looking forward to getting one, untill I tested one and accidentally dropped the mag on the trail and spent 2 hours and 2 miles looking for it, it wasn't mine so the loss was unacceptable, found it.
Looks alot nicer as long as it still shoots good
KRG chassis will fix the stock problem
Will a gen 1 stock fit on the gen 2
the only thing I’ve seen people really get pissy over is the overall barrel length advertised is including the muzzle brake in the measurement making it a 18.5 inch but you’re losing a whole 40-60fps which is basically irrelevant
Gen 2 looked at 1today , at the british shooting show, big step up for ruger
The new stock looks like it may be a great improvement.
Glad to see Ruger woke up and replaced the Gen.1 POS magazine. I had to replace the original POS magazine with another POS factory magazine before I ever too the 1st shot from that rifle…And I sold it before round #10 was ever fired…!!!
The GEN two rifle looks like a better thought when they built the rifle
I can't find the rifle, stored the back of my Chevelle, with that new camouflage finish a perfect match to the spatter paint inside the trunk.
Holy shit that rifle looks so good
Still not a Hawkeye but I like what my coworkers in the rifle plant did, it’s a great rifle
I love that barrel mate. Nice