Love the look on Garner's face when the SAR tells him the raptor crews are dead. He suddenly realizes he got played by the Cylons even before they jump in.
AteshSeruhn that was part of his story. He knew one thing and knew it well - engineering. He wasn’t a tactician, maybe if anything he knew his crew but wasn’t a leader like your Adamas... there was a Wrath of Kahn scene where it shows him fixing the engines, I think, that’s not here? I remember though RDM talking in his commentary about how they wrote Garner, and how many XOs the ship had gone through etc.
Yeah, well, behind the scenes limitations did for her. They had to resort to repurposing and redressing the Pegasus interior sets to get the basestar interior sets they needed, and didn't have the prep time needed for the sets to pull double duty. So the Pegasus had to be sacrificed. But hey, she went down swinging. And at least she got more screentime than her seventies counterpart.
Just remember that they had been at peace for 40 years. The same kind of thinking that led to glass being used like this was the thinking that led to relying on a centralized computer system when the enemy was walking, talking computers!
The Pegasus sets were repurposed sets originally meant for a never produced „Lost in Space“ remake series. So originally the bridge set was meant for a peaceful exploration ship not a Battlestar.
Just a reminder that Galactica was almost incapacitated by a single raider launched nuke. Pegasus just shouldered two basestar mounted atomics at point blank without blinking. There was a reason it was called The Beast.
Considering those 2 nukes blasted Peggy's ftl drive, I would say they too 'incapacitated' her. Pegasus and all her crew would have been ash if not for the captain sacrificing himself.
Only because she slaughtered inocent civilians and left them to die. Thats why she is called that. Thou we all agree, she can tank punishment, but then again : Galactica was nowhere near battleready when hit by that first nuke in the series. Also her ARMOR wasnt even applied anymore, with Peggy being the modern Battlestar that she is that was basicaly just RECENTLY put into service its OBVIOUS that she is near imune to any damage.
"Without blinking" is a bit of a stretch. They immediately disabled the FTL drives and you can briefly see the damage control panels lighting up in red. Pegasus was superior to Galactica (not by a long shot but still undeniable). The reason was not because the Peggy was a better ship, but because the Bucket was too old and stripped down. A fully functional Jupiter class would wipe the floor with a Mercury class.
Gods I miss this show. The ships are so cool, I wish there was a game set in an alternate timeline of the 2nd Cylon war. I want to dog fight in a Viper Mk VII or build my own fleet to engage in multiple battles. Ah! That would be so amazing!!! There are some games that try to mimic some of these aspects but they all fall flat and don't incorporate the scope or scale of what I'm imagining.
@@Eduardo-bo8qz I've played the MMO but it's boring and the community is practically dead. I tried playing but with little help from the senior folk and everyone using me as an easy kill, I didn't stick around. I looked up articles to see if it was just my bad luck, and no this is how new people are treated. Hence, why the game receives probably less than 20 or 10 new players per 6 months.
@@Eduardo-bo8qz And I've tried mods before. They're the most fun! But without continuous funding those responsible for the mods lose initiative after a while and stop creating updates. Sometimes they don't even finish putting everything BSG into the games. :(
There's a game called stellaris where you can build an empore, name fleets and rce, pick government types and ethics, and build large fleets. It's a grand space opera, and it's fking amazing. You can definitely try it out there. Just name one group your Colonials, and another your Cylons.
There's a mod called Fall of Kobol which is a mod of Sins of a Solar Empire if I recall correctly. It seems like the most BSG strategy based game out there besides a few possible others. I'm not certain if you mean that one when you say mods.
One of the many mistakes they made with BSG was killing off Admiral Cain and Colonel Fisk too soon. I thought that Caines character needed to be fleshed out more while gradually coming around to Rosylin and Adamas point of view. Killing her off in the Battle Of New Caprica would have an appropriate end for her. I also didnt like what the writers did to Colonel Fisk. In the space of an episode, he went from being a solid capable officer to being a corrupt weasel and then got killed off. That was nothing short of sloppy. And dont get me started about BSG:Razor.
*Spoiler alert* I think Cain's death was fitting cuz it was brutal and unexpectedly fast which sums up most of BSG plotlines but I agree, a battle of new caprica would have been more epic and she wouldnt be an antagonist anymore
Can had to go.. Fisk however got destroyed by writers.. as the Fisk that was murdered in Black Market wasnt even close to the Fisk we saw on Pegasus and Resurrection ship.. the writers simply changed his character to some corrupt asshole to kill him off easily and thats it
@@BlaneNostalgia She shouldn't have been rehabilitated. She was a murderer and tyrant of the worst kind, an accessory to multiple rapes and systematic torture. She deserved what she got and worse, and shouldn't have been given the honour of a continued command and a martyr's death.
Its actually pretty simply explained... For one, the capabilities of the Battlestar guns, range quite a lot depending on the demands of the plot. But secondly, its just for the fact that they suck except for lee and him only in this one scene. He sucked over new caprica, but he understood the basics of how to use a Mercury properly, unlike admiral cain. The Mercuries are a command vessel, thats why they have most of their offensive armament at the front. Theyre supposed to lay it back and barrage from afar, thats the comfort zone of the ship. Cain never did this and used pegasus like a jupiter, but Pegasus and all other mercuries severely lack dorsal, ventral and aft protection wich is heavy relient on vipers. The reason they can withstand the cylons for so long (and potentially could almost indefinetly if the universe was consistent on its technicalities) is because the cylon are offensively focused, with only missles. but have no protective measures on their own. Battlestars however are defensively focused, yet being able to use the heavy weaponry against capital ships also. So in an even steven 1 vs 1... even the galatica would not have any issues dismembering a cylon Baseshiip, not letting any missles past the flak defense while the vipers hold off their raiders from doing any harm to galactica.
The canon explination would be that Galactica mostly just uses its batteries for flak barrages to protect the fleet, while those bow guns are purpose built and tightly grouped.
The main battery in the bow isnt the standard cannon. Its the most powerful gun it has. I believe (maybe) that its supposed to be a gun that runs almost the entire length of a battle star. Galactica has em too
and its relevant as its when Lee began to issue orders to adress the Pegasus damage by rolling the ship so the damaged areas are out of the fire line and orders the air wing to concentrate in protecting that part while also beginning to maneover to engage the 3 baseStars
@@sparrowlt Yeah, was very nicely done and a great scene. People always go out of their way to whine about Lee, so would've been nice to include his moment here.
@@dreamer2260 I mostly bash him as well..but its the writers fault mostly.. this scene showed he is actually a quite competent ship commander.. sadly they didnt went there anymore again and relegated to have him crash ships into things
@@sparrowlt I agree the writers made him a little too weak in later seasons. Though I really think the decision to sacrifice the Pegasus gets way too much flak; it doesn’t seem particularly stupid to me, and was clearly plot mandated in any case to have Galactica the sole ship again, so it never bothered me.
@@dreamer2260 i would've liked the pegasus destruction more if it was something like a surprise attack on the fleet that takes out pegasus' ftl and then the pegasus would fight to the very end and only evac when it was clear she couldn't be saved
Imagine the CNP had failed. The Cylons would have been royally fucked. Three of their capital ships get the surprise of one Mercury and yet they don't manage to destroy her. They actually hit several nukes but she just tanks it with negligible damage. Imagine some 40 Mercurys and 80 Valkyries against the Cylons... And then add hundreds of support ships. The Cylons could have had 300 Basestars and they would still have been kicked into the dirt.
95DarkFire BSG Deadlock. Its a good filler ( at least for the first cylon war ), you can play with many Colonial and even Cylon ships. As for a Pegasus battle, you can get some Minerva’s to play with, which are nearly similar to the Pegasus.
first thing when jumping somewhere unknown should be "all hands battlestations", especially if your whole species got wiped thanks to a superior enemy.... but pff, just jump somewhere while half the ship is asleep... btw, are the viper pilots on drugs or are they just lunatics?
2200mm ship sinkers. 16 barrels. Boom. Its what Galactica missed - dedicated anti-ship weapons when her main battery was dedicated to keeping the flak field up (IE most of the time)
Pegasus, the Mercury-class for that matter, is the best sci-fi warship ever and my favorite ship. I still believe that she would have taken out those three basestars.
@@kempmt1 If you remember their vipers were outnumbered and running low on ammunition Pegasus had critical damage from the first three nukes the cylons were prepared for this attack since they planned it they jumped in up close with no viper cover Pegasus was going to be in serious trouble.
yeah,some always on stand by Point defense cannons should have at least tried to catch the missiles. if those basestars can jump in and fire nukes within 3 seconds,how the frack did mankind survive for 4 sessions?
Let's go several seasons and only target the basestars central axis ONCE. If it was that easy to damage them they should've focused the fire there at every encounter
Lee adama is the best commander of the Battlestar Pegasus better than Garner he always takes responsible to protect the ship ps its a shame that the ship was destroyed during the exodus.
jonathan hazel ... I think in one of his commentaries Ron D Moore said they would have kept Pegasus but one the show is called Galactica, and two they needed the space the set was on for the new basestar interior sets that were seen during the last half of the show.
the really built the battlestars like shit brick houses, they take direct hits from nukes and still stay functional. even a star destroyer from star wars cant handle that.
Are we sure Pegasus was tougher than Galactica? I'm not. As others here have stated, Pegasus was armed more as a standoff ship killer. Also Ron Moore was quoted somewhere saying that Pegasus was equivalent to a modern missile cruiser and Galactica was equivalent to a WW2 battleship. Guess which one of those is tougher...
@@dmacbass I would say Battleship as it was designed to take hits and survive. Modern ships are more about active defence and staying out of shooting range and less about surviving hits. Both are different in defence designs modern ships are about active defence as in point defence systems and ECM and staying out of engagement ranges. While Battleships are designed to shoot from range they are also designed and excepted to fight ships that get close so they need to be able to take hits without sinking right away.
Also, Galactica was stripped of most of her armour and heavy weapons at the end of the first Cylon War, which is why you can see all these rib-like things up and down Galactica's hull where the armour used to be. Pegasus is also a state of the art Heavy Battlestar, with weapons and system about 40 years newer than Galactica's
@@AGH331 The Cylons have yoused a few thousand to nuke 12 Planets with billions of People and to destroy the entire colonial Military all her Battlestars and shipyards, production facilities an so on.. The should have a few more...
@@Lightsoul1987 Right, so they used the majority of their stock wiping humanity out, and nukes take time to restock. Then factor in spreading them around the various ships in the cylon fleet and you can see how they wouldn't have been readily available in huge numbers.
For all those who complained bout lee adama , though a fighter pilot he obviously knew how to command a Battlestar , thank to his father , and second the Galactica was outgunned , about to be destroyed when lee showed up wit the Pegasus , his motivation to save and help his father , people forget that him and his father had a strained relationship , he blame his father the death of his brother and the fact of the separation of they're mother , but when Adama saw lee when he thought he was dead and hug him lee know his father always love him and that the fact he blame his father for zac death in the end he still loved his father ,
2 nuclear detonations to the stern and all they did was knock out the FTL drives and damage some hull plating. Meanwhile Galactica took one on her flight pod and it was a body blow that nearly ended her. Shows you how much Colonial engineering advanced in nearly 40 years.
no, not really. Mercury class ships have less armor than Jupiter class ships but Colonial engineering advanced about ftl without retracting flight pods, main guns, electronic countermeasures/systems and manufacturing facilities( viper or raptor with raw materiel) in a battlestar
It really makes sense given the context. Ideally; you wouldnt want to be in a war in the first place, but since it's inevtiable; you wouldnt want to take the hits. Especially when humanity is close to extinction; the best course of action is to avoid as much fighting as possible. Preservation is key
@@AGH331Acting hasn't changed much and what was written is on par. The only two differences is Starbuck hardly swore as a female but as male.. The other difference in the time, they did not have computers. Back then a single comp-u-tron would equate to about 15 -20 employees per actor..
I love battlestars they have the air craft carrier and a battleship in one can come in front weapons open up then broadside and circle a target while using flak as a defence screen vipers As fighter support I know Pegasus was more a command type so she could fight but more from a far and galactica was more close range take the pounding and win but Pegasus could do it do but not as good as galactica
Love the look on Garner's face when the SAR tells him the raptor crews are dead. He suddenly realizes he got played by the Cylons even before they jump in.
Its the face of a man that has accidentally left his son home alone
Man, Garner was out of his comfort zone as CO. All that was missing from that obvious trap was Admiral Ackbar.
AteshSeruhn that was part of his story. He knew one thing and knew it well - engineering. He wasn’t a tactician, maybe if anything he knew his crew but wasn’t a leader like your Adamas... there was a Wrath of Kahn scene where it shows him fixing the engines, I think, that’s not here? I remember though RDM talking in his commentary about how they wrote Garner, and how many XOs the ship had gone through etc.
It's a Trap!!!!!
I miss the Pegasus she was a beauty.
Yeah, well, behind the scenes limitations did for her. They had to resort to repurposing and redressing the Pegasus interior sets to get the basestar interior sets they needed, and didn't have the prep time needed for the sets to pull double duty.
So the Pegasus had to be sacrificed. But hey, she went down swinging. And at least she got more screentime than her seventies counterpart.
Yes she was, a beautiful beast.
My absolute favorite sci-fi warship.
I know, let’s fill our bridge with glass partitions that shatter when ever the ship gets attacked, what could possibly go wrong?
Somebody on the council had a relative in the glass business...
Loved BSG but also thought it was ridiculous that the bridge (CIC, sorry) would have easy to shatter glass. Galactica had it too.
Just remember that they had been at peace for 40 years. The same kind of thinking that led to glass being used like this was the thinking that led to relying on a centralized computer system when the enemy was walking, talking computers!
It sounds like something out of Terrible Writing Advice
The Pegasus sets were repurposed sets originally meant for a never produced „Lost in Space“ remake series. So originally the bridge set was meant for a peaceful exploration ship not a Battlestar.
Just a reminder that Galactica was almost incapacitated by a single raider launched nuke. Pegasus just shouldered two basestar mounted atomics at point blank without blinking. There was a reason it was called The Beast.
Considering those 2 nukes blasted Peggy's ftl drive, I would say they too 'incapacitated' her. Pegasus and all her crew would have been ash if not for the captain sacrificing himself.
@@Debbiebabe69 the commander. this isnt trek and i dont see any viper sacrifices
I won’t argue this. It’s known nuclear weapons scatter the DRADIS and in particular pinpoint like a sparkle (how the Cylons found New Cap.)
Only because she slaughtered inocent civilians and left them to die. Thats why she is called that. Thou we all agree, she can tank punishment, but then again : Galactica was nowhere near battleready when hit by that first nuke in the series. Also her ARMOR wasnt even applied anymore, with Peggy being the modern Battlestar that she is that was basicaly just RECENTLY put into service its OBVIOUS that she is near imune to any damage.
"Without blinking" is a bit of a stretch. They immediately disabled the FTL drives and you can briefly see the damage control panels lighting up in red.
Pegasus was superior to Galactica (not by a long shot but still undeniable). The reason was not because the Peggy was a better ship, but because the Bucket was too old and stripped down. A fully functional Jupiter class would wipe the floor with a Mercury class.
RIP John Heard, 1 year ago
My favorite sci-fi warship ever!
Me too I love the Pegasus too hell with Galactica.
Gods I miss this show. The ships are so cool, I wish there was a game set in an alternate timeline of the 2nd Cylon war. I want to dog fight in a Viper Mk VII or build my own fleet to engage in multiple battles. Ah! That would be so amazing!!! There are some games that try to mimic some of these aspects but they all fall flat and don't incorporate the scope or scale of what I'm imagining.
@@Eduardo-bo8qz I've played the MMO but it's boring and the community is practically dead. I tried playing but with little help from the senior folk and everyone using me as an easy kill, I didn't stick around. I looked up articles to see if it was just my bad luck, and no this is how new people are treated. Hence, why the game receives probably less than 20 or 10 new players per 6 months.
@@Eduardo-bo8qz And I've tried mods before. They're the most fun! But without continuous funding those responsible for the mods lose initiative after a while and stop creating updates. Sometimes they don't even finish putting everything BSG into the games. :(
There's a game called stellaris where you can build an empore, name fleets and rce, pick government types and ethics, and build large fleets. It's a grand space opera, and it's fking amazing. You can definitely try it out there. Just name one group your Colonials, and another your Cylons.
There's a mod called Fall of Kobol which is a mod of Sins of a Solar Empire if I recall correctly. It seems like the most BSG strategy based game out there besides a few possible others. I'm not certain if you mean that one when you say mods.
Well the game BSG Deadlock is pretty close to that but its strategy. Also set during the First Cylon War but alot of fun.
I loved this Battlestar the perfect warship.
Look at those guns on the Pegasus! BSG got space battles which shows projectiles at lower speeds, and the affect of g-forces on pilots right
One of the many mistakes they made with BSG was killing off Admiral Cain and Colonel Fisk too soon. I thought that Caines character needed to be fleshed out more while gradually coming around to Rosylin and Adamas point of view. Killing her off in the Battle Of New Caprica would have an appropriate end for her. I also didnt like what the writers did to Colonel Fisk. In the space of an episode, he went from being a solid capable officer to being a corrupt weasel and then got killed off. That was nothing short of sloppy.
And dont get me started about BSG:Razor.
*Spoiler alert* I think Cain's death was fitting cuz it was brutal and unexpectedly fast which sums up most of BSG plotlines but I agree, a battle of new caprica would have been more epic and she wouldnt be an antagonist anymore
I could understand Cain being killed but they really should have kept Fisk on as a character for a while longer.
Can had to go.. Fisk however got destroyed by writers.. as the Fisk that was murdered in Black Market wasnt even close to the Fisk we saw on Pegasus and Resurrection ship.. the writers simply changed his character to some corrupt asshole to kill him off easily and thats it
@@BlaneNostalgia She shouldn't have been rehabilitated. She was a murderer and tyrant of the worst kind, an accessory to multiple rapes and systematic torture. She deserved what she got and worse, and shouldn't have been given the honour of a continued command and a martyr's death.
I agree... for, uh, obvious reasons!
Sometimes, they destroy or disable a basestar with few shots. But in other episodes, they have trouble even just holding off one for few minutes.
sounds like warthunder, they shot a single shot at you, killing all 4 crew and wracking the engine, you shoot 20 shots at them, all trackdamage..
bow guns on the pegasus have plot munitions loaded
Its actually pretty simply explained... For one, the capabilities of the Battlestar guns, range quite a lot depending on the demands of the plot.
But secondly, its just for the fact that they suck except for lee and him only in this one scene. He sucked over new caprica, but he understood the basics of how to use a Mercury properly, unlike admiral cain.
The Mercuries are a command vessel, thats why they have most of their offensive armament at the front. Theyre supposed to lay it back and barrage from afar, thats the comfort zone of the ship. Cain never did this and used pegasus like a jupiter, but Pegasus and all other mercuries severely lack dorsal, ventral and aft protection wich is heavy relient on vipers.
The reason they can withstand the cylons for so long (and potentially could almost indefinetly if the universe was consistent on its technicalities) is because the cylon are offensively focused, with only missles. but have no protective measures on their own.
Battlestars however are defensively focused, yet being able to use the heavy weaponry against capital ships also.
So in an even steven 1 vs 1... even the galatica would not have any issues dismembering a cylon Baseshiip, not letting any missles past the flak defense while the vipers hold off their raiders from doing any harm to galactica.
The canon explination would be that Galactica mostly just uses its batteries for flak barrages to protect the fleet, while those bow guns are purpose built and tightly grouped.
The main battery in the bow isnt the standard cannon. Its the most powerful gun it has.
I believe (maybe) that its supposed to be a gun that runs almost the entire length of a battle star. Galactica has em too
and in this scene we see how mercury class battlestars can stand against a nuke too.
He take 4 actually
Lee really needs to speak up when giving the order to fire. 2:24
God, they don't even have TEMPERED glass in that fucking CIC but full on normal glass.
Those bow guns are BAD-ASS !!!
Helium leak in the CIC
😭😭😭
The part where Lee takes over from Garner is missing. Should have entire clip.
and its relevant as its when Lee began to issue orders to adress the Pegasus damage by rolling the ship so the damaged areas are out of the fire line and orders the air wing to concentrate in protecting that part while also beginning to maneover to engage the 3 baseStars
@@sparrowlt Yeah, was very nicely done and a great scene. People always go out of their way to whine about Lee, so would've been nice to include his moment here.
@@dreamer2260 I mostly bash him as well..but its the writers fault mostly.. this scene showed he is actually a quite competent ship commander.. sadly they didnt went there anymore again and relegated to have him crash ships into things
@@sparrowlt I agree the writers made him a little too weak in later seasons. Though I really think the decision to sacrifice the Pegasus gets way too much flak; it doesn’t seem particularly stupid to me, and was clearly plot mandated in any case to have Galactica the sole ship again, so it never bothered me.
@@dreamer2260 i would've liked the pegasus destruction more if it was something like a surprise attack on the fleet that takes out pegasus' ftl and then the pegasus would fight to the very end and only evac when it was clear she couldn't be saved
Imagine the CNP had failed. The Cylons would have been royally fucked. Three of their capital ships get the surprise of one Mercury and yet they don't manage to destroy her. They actually hit several nukes but she just tanks it with negligible damage.
Imagine some 40 Mercurys and 80 Valkyries against the Cylons... And then add hundreds of support ships. The Cylons could have had 300 Basestars and they would still have been kicked into the dirt.
This kind of reminds me of an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, in which Scotty told Geordi that "he was but an engineer."
Quite frankly I can’t believe he felt for that and for what amount to from 2 to 4 people?
BSG would make such a great military/war show.
Sadly, the plot prevented more cool battles.
95DarkFire BSG Deadlock. Its a good filler ( at least for the first cylon war ), you can play with many Colonial and even Cylon ships. As for a Pegasus battle, you can get some Minerva’s to play with, which are nearly similar to the Pegasus.
first thing when jumping somewhere unknown should be "all hands battlestations", especially if your whole species got wiped thanks to a superior enemy.... but pff, just jump somewhere while half the ship is asleep...
btw, are the viper pilots on drugs or are they just lunatics?
They are probably flying drunk
If you have time, besides I think they would already be at battlestations before finding the 2 raptors.
Those nose cannons tho!
2200mm ship sinkers. 16 barrels. Boom.
Its what Galactica missed - dedicated anti-ship weapons when her main battery was dedicated to keeping the flak field up (IE most of the time)
Wow! Lee was competent in this battle. He didn't try to destroy Pegasus.
IT'S A TRAP!
I guess I gotta watch the show now.
Pegasus, the Mercury-class for that matter, is the best sci-fi warship ever and my favorite ship. I still believe that she would have taken out those three basestars.
lets not push it
@@TshepoNkadimeng5 more guns on it and larger than the Galactica, why the hell not?!
@@kempmt1 If you remember their vipers were outnumbered and running low on ammunition Pegasus had critical damage from the first three nukes the cylons were prepared for this attack since they planned it they jumped in up close with no viper cover Pegasus was going to be in serious trouble.
what soundtrack is this scene from
Love the Pegasus, wish they would have sacrificed Galactica instead. But then the show was called Battlestar GALACTICA!
rechristen the ship
Just rename The Pegasus Galactica-A
_Pegasus_ should have been at condition one the minute they jumped away from the fleet.
The Pegasus might have won the Battle if it wasn't caught by surprise and hit by 2 Nukes.
yeah,some always on stand by Point defense cannons should have at least tried to catch the missiles. if those basestars can jump in and fire nukes within 3 seconds,how the frack did mankind survive for 4 sessions?
not enough ram in their brain \o/
Loved that show
This is why you never promote engineers into leadership positions
Only if they know what they are doing.
1:28 damage report Btc are you ready for answering this UNSC ?
Let's go several seasons and only target the basestars central axis ONCE. If it was that easy to damage them they should've focused the fire there at every encounter
Does someone know the song name playing in the background? Its amazing and I couldn't find it on the official soundtrack.
Lee adama is the best commander of the Battlestar Pegasus better than Garner he always takes responsible to protect the ship ps its a shame that the ship was destroyed during the exodus.
jonathan hazel ... I think in one of his commentaries Ron D Moore said they would have kept Pegasus but one the show is called Galactica, and two they needed the space the set was on for the new basestar interior sets that were seen during the last half of the show.
You want to know why the Pegasus was destroyed? Because Lee threw it away to save the inferior Galactica!
L lol
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Thats funny.
the really built the battlestars like shit brick houses, they take direct hits from nukes and still stay functional. even a star destroyer from star wars cant handle that.
30 year old Galatica struck by nuke, small damage, Top of the line Pegasus struck by nuke, half of the ship damaged greatly. Geez.
Are we sure Pegasus was tougher than Galactica? I'm not. As others here have stated, Pegasus was armed more as a standoff ship killer. Also Ron Moore was quoted somewhere saying that Pegasus was equivalent to a modern missile cruiser and Galactica was equivalent to a WW2 battleship. Guess which one of those is tougher...
@@dmacbass I would say Battleship as it was designed to take hits and survive. Modern ships are more about active defence and staying out of shooting range and less about surviving hits. Both are different in defence designs modern ships are about active defence as in point defence systems and ECM and staying out of engagement ranges. While Battleships are designed to shoot from range they are also designed and excepted to fight ships that get close so they need to be able to take hits without sinking right away.
That ship can take 2 nuclear warhead hits? Men! That's one piece of a ship for yah.
Jim Karlo Amores Gesultura Well Galactica took 1 hit in the miniseries and could of probably took another, Pegasus is vastly newer and more armoured.
Nuke area damage on earth is so big because of the airblast.
Yep nukes on space are not that deadly, the only real danger is the EMP blast but there is no air to ionize so i guess it not that fangerous
I always thought it was stupid that nukes were so unbelievably weak in this show. Could have just called them missiles rather than nukes.
Such Massive ships but such tiny guns, What ever happened to big rotating turrets that eats up half of the deck's width?
Oh it has them, same type as Galactica, but Pegasus is so much bigger than Galactica, they seem tiny
Pegasus is only 1.3x the size of Galactica.
Pegasus is twice the mass of Galactica despite being less than 300m longer
Yeah, Pegasus is definitely the stronger vessel.
Also, Galactica was stripped of most of her armour and heavy weapons at the end of the first Cylon War, which is why you can see all these rib-like things up and down Galactica's hull where the armour used to be. Pegasus is also a state of the art Heavy Battlestar, with weapons and system about 40 years newer than Galactica's
"Left" instead of "Port" ??
It was in code..... ;)
You must remember that he is commonly a Vyper pilot, so left and right are common lingo for a pilot...
The actor leader the Pegasus have recently pass away.
sooo... the peg has guns all around.... lee, use em. no lee, do not ram other ships. lee? LEE!
JUST SET THEM TO SOME CYCLE AND FULL ENGINES AHEAD
Lee wasn't cut out for commander an so maybe but not commander
At least when they killed her in series they gave her a good death
The base ships should have fired 20 Nukes instead of 2 .. That would have torn the Pegasus in pieces on the spot.
Nukes don't grow on trees.
@@AGH331 The Cylons have yoused a few thousand to nuke 12 Planets with billions of People and to destroy the entire colonial Military all her Battlestars and shipyards, production facilities an so on.. The should have a few more...
@@Lightsoul1987 Right, so they used the majority of their stock wiping humanity out, and nukes take time to restock. Then factor in spreading them around the various ships in the cylon fleet and you can see how they wouldn't have been readily available in huge numbers.
I hope those pilots were wearing their brown pants
For all those who complained bout lee adama , though a fighter pilot he obviously knew how to command a Battlestar , thank to his father , and second the Galactica was outgunned , about to be destroyed when lee showed up wit the Pegasus , his motivation to save and help his father , people forget that him and his father had a strained relationship , he blame his father the death of his brother and the fact of the separation of they're mother , but when Adama saw lee when he thought he was dead and hug him lee know his father always love him and that the fact he blame his father for zac death in the end he still loved his father ,
Good show.
2 nuclear detonations to the stern and all they did was knock out the FTL drives and damage some hull plating. Meanwhile Galactica took one on her flight pod and it was a body blow that nearly ended her. Shows you how much Colonial engineering advanced in nearly 40 years.
no, not really. Mercury class ships have less armor than Jupiter class ships but Colonial engineering advanced about ftl without retracting flight pods, main guns, electronic countermeasures/systems and manufacturing facilities( viper or raptor with raw materiel) in a battlestar
Mind you, Galactica had most all of her amour plating removed for decommisioning etc. They were essentially scraping her.
Garner was a good man.
Base Stars appear to have a glaring weak spot in their design...
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They were designed more for offensive capabilities while the battle stars were designed to take a beating.
Ich Bin für die Cylonen wenn es Sie gibt!
1 sec ago the ftl didnt work ........then... Jump !
0:59 (personal timestamp)
This movie is all about ... Jump.
It really makes sense given the context.
Ideally; you wouldnt want to be in a war in the first place, but since it's inevtiable; you wouldnt want to take the hits. Especially when humanity is close to extinction; the best course of action is to avoid as much fighting as possible. Preservation is key
Kevin!!!
101, back in my day, (when Starbuck had balls) he would of taken on the the right basestar..
Ah yes, back in your day, when the acting was bad and the writing even worse ...
@@AGH331Acting hasn't changed much and what was written is on par. The only two differences is Starbuck hardly swore as a female but as male.. The other difference in the time, they did not have computers. Back then a single comp-u-tron would equate to about 15 -20 employees per actor..
I love battlestars they
have the air craft carrier and a battleship in one can come in front weapons open up then broadside and circle a target while using flak as a defence screen vipers As fighter support
I know Pegasus was more a command type so she could fight but more from a far and galactica was more close range take the pounding and win but Pegasus could do it do but not as good as galactica
The “camera” movement in this series SUCKS.