Alright, I'm an idiot. Somehow during editing the Lone Exile was left out. Not sure how that happened since I wrote the script and recorded it with Lone Exile included but whatever. If you're wondering, I put Low Exile in the Upper Mid Tier before Zephyr as it's pretty squishy.
I was looking at all the classes and realized which ones you didn't go over without noticing Soulhacker and thought you were crazy for putting Lone Exile at the top lmao
Lone Exile is squishier than Zephyr, but it's way better at actually getting aggro. And squishiness can be easily dealt with thanks to healers. Getting more aggro from Zephyr isn't as easy
My personal favorite is a 100 % crit rate Arts spam team! Lapidarist gives everyone +20 % crit rate, Incursor gives itself +25 % crit rate - then add Frenzied Combo to everyone, and Eye for Weak Points to all non-Incursors. Then merely ensure Incursors have 35 % or more base Crit Rate, and everyone else 42 % or more - voila, crits-only Arts spam team. The one Ogre is the exception, being entirely Reactions-focused. Tank is obviously Zephyr, and Lapidarist with the Signifer kit. Best part: No matter how hard the Incursors spam, Zephyr just never loses aggro with this setup, because essentially turns into a Beyblade that _never stops Art canceling_ once a certain Crit Rate threshold from Eye for Weak Points is reached. xD
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Imo FMJ should at least be top tier. It is one of the best AOE classes and it has busted evasion. Also in chain attacks, you never miss attacks and thats where the majority of damage comes from anyway. Also since its a Keves class you can give it a smash art and both Jackal Claw and aerial slash that gives it evasion and high Damage multiplier. Kinda sad we never got a Ether Ultimate Qigong (Like "A" has in the dlc) in the main game tho.
@@moosoose4661 It is slower but way safer. Really helps with against Seraphic Ceratinia with his instakill moves and AOE attacks. Also once your in a chain attack the chance that the enemy lives after that is practically zero. And i think in Future redeemed that chain attacks are really necessary since Enemys have such high HP. But yeah in gauntlet they are kinda useless. its kinda like a safety net there. not much damage but it can help you recover.
@bamboozled4912 yeah chain attacks are super overpowered. Generally against ceritinia I prefer to not do a chain attack (even though those are safer) because it's faster not to
@@moosoose4661 Yeah understandable. An instant win button isn't the most fun too lol. Also it interupt the songs and that's a shame (even if i really like the chain attack theme).
Material artist should be top tier. It does very big damage consistently. Especially you have link arts with power charge and add the fast recharge in the mix with the talent art.
I agree. It gets its additive damage bonus super easily, it innately has a skill that lots of other classes want, and it has a really high crit rate to capitalize on the strategies it wants to use.
I’m in Chapter 5 of Xenoblade 3 so far, and I’ve been rocking out with Taion as SwordFighter along with some accessories like Nopon Strap that randomly recharges your arts.
This video made me realize how little i know of the battle system lmao. I just used whatever as i got it. The classes i thought were good are ranked quite low.
I think you severely underestimated noponic champion. I tortured my self by playing the game severely underlevelled on hard mode and without NC i dont think it wouldve been remotely possible. The incapicitation mechanic was very meh but did come in handy during the harder boss fights. It was the healing and art recharge that made it a staple tank for me. In large groups of enemies no tank beats this class period as you can spam evasion arts to no end. On bosses i found it to last longer and endure better compared to zephyr (I did put zephy's talent art on my build though). Overall was useful all the way to postgame.
you may as well just make another tear in between the low tier in the mid tier for the amount of times you’ve had to split the mid tier into two groups
@@locloudanerpg yeah, but the game will still get new content with the new Xenoblade amiibos. So maybe they could use the chance to add Mwamba as a hero with a class that uses the animations of medic gunner. Altought this is very unlikely.
@@locloudanerpg Right. I've beaten it. I did everything other than some end game challenge stuff and that took me 73 hours. I feel some Eikons are just not as good, either from Feat or from their Abilities. But a lot of it is subjective. And I love that.
@@locloudanerpg I'd rather use other Eikons because breaking, in my opinion, isn't that good. Gouge has that "goes on for far too long" effect that Ignition is guilty of (Ignition does good damage though) and Aerial Blast is expensive.
@locloudanerpg Theres no point in tiering 16 cuz everything is progression based rather than optional. That means every single piece of gear and weapons. The summons on the other hand are unlocked through progression so the game does NOT really have anything to tier other than amazing moments in the game that can be tiered lol
I disagree with the Guardian Commander, for me he is the best heavy guard, is true that doesn't make so much damage and it only has one art to draw aggro, but if you put him Resonant Flag and Shield Wall this class can be incredible, his skills are really good, if the enemy is not attacking a guardian it will increase your art recharge speed and with the Talent Art Deflector Field with the Resonant Flag and the whole team will have the Awakening buff and I think the Noponic Champion is the most broken guardian, every time you evade an attack you have a little chance to heal yourself and if a close ally receive damage your Arts will charge so fast and if you die, you will make more damage and more Art Recharge speed
@@locloudanerpg Bowser at the bottom, low utility and no great special moves. Mallow next, classic Red Mage syndrome of not being the best healer or damage dealer. Mario in the middle, solid all around stats but nothing spectacular. Peach above, great healer and powerful final attack but squishy. Geno at the top, hits hard, hits fast and solid specials.
Stalker wasn't that bad for me. The side attack hits really hard and the back bleed art has a fast recharge so it farms talent art quickly, has more chances to apply bleed and will eventually charge noah's ultimate sword. You also get an evasion art and being an agnus dps class you can add FMJ quickdraw for a third positional for talent art. The skills are contradictory and do not work well with each other but it is not bottom tier. Deffo not worse than tactician and thaumaturge
Lapidartist, seraph, fmj and royal summoner imo seem way too low. sword fighter and incursor seem a bit high. FMJ can just be used as an evasion tank if player controlled despite it being an attacker class due to it having the possibility of running all fusion arts evading all attacks plus it's talent art also provides evasion, it being ether sucks a bit cuz no ultimate qigong but despite this, it's not bad. Royal summoner is really good when used in Seraph nuke settups in gauntlet mode. Also for some reason it's talent art is not infact ether it's physical (this means ultimate qigong works with it) Seraph is one of the best ways of getting awakening (a really good buff that op does not touch on at all (awakening also cannot be pulled from signifier) ) and as i said before it's an integral part of SERAPH nuking gauntlet strats. Lapidartist imo should go next to troubadour and signifer cuz it's basically a better version of them as lapidartist preforms better at signifier's job than signifer itself (once you get to that 100% crit rate) Sword fighter does have the strongest art in the game yes but it doesn't have much else other than that and it's inability to take aggro, this is a good thing but if you run sword fighter you aren't running incursor nor seraph. Incursor fits in god tier but not at the top (imo that goes to seraph for reasons mentioned before) but most of it's skills are really nice (especially EFWP as that crit rate is very useful on lots of builds)
Elimination beam would be so nice for damage but soulhacker is the only class that can't take advantage of the absolutely broken frenzied combo skill 😢>:(. (So I personally find the dps kinda mid) Also signifer would be good but I don't even use it because a buffer soulhacker is strictly better.
Signifer's problem is that it gives its most impactful art (Resonant Flag) to other classes, and Soulhacker gives stronger and most importantly consistent buffs. I do agree with attacker Soulhacker being middling due to not having access to the powerful regular class skills and its strongest arts are ether based. Honestly, Ultimate Qigong by itself completely kills all two and a half ether attackers (the half being Royal Summoner) since UQ is pretty much straight up the single largest damage boosting skill.
@conorb.1901 yeah for some reason element genesis is considered a physical attack for some reason (idk) but either way most people just take summon element and EG and put it on like a seraph instead
@moosoose4661 I do find it hilarious that Royal Summoner backloads so much damage into EG that it benefits more from UQ than anything else. My problem with Royal Summoner is that it's just slow. Sure you have a 400% additive, but it takes a while to stack up when Seraph can pretty easily be sitting on ~300% for using three arts in the beginning of the fight
Yeah, that's why I honestly think Troubadour and Signifer are kinda mid classes. Once you get their master arts (which you don't even need to do their ascension quests for iirc), there's no real reason to use them. You can just give their arts to other classes and have them be even better. And Buffer Soulhacker is really the only reason why Soulhacker is a god-tier class. Without that set it's just mid
@@ianluk6385 to be fair troubadour is pretty nice for art recharge but the benefits do not outweigh a SH + lapidarist build because frenzied combo already exists
There's so much wrong with this list lol. Martial Artist should be near the top, face tanks being better than dodge tanks at the end game (hello dodge spam), Lone Exile being lower than Zephyr even though it's almost strictly outclassed by Lone Exile, Swordfighter being higher than Seraph somehow, Soulhacker being higher than Seraph despite having only 3 skills no useful talent art and only getting good arts near the end of the game, Soulhacker being called the best DPS in the game when it can only do that inside chain attacks (and outside of them it's usually outclassed by Seraph and Incursor), and not a single mention of Buffer Soulhacker the single beat build in the game. I almost thought that this was a joke for a bit, but it turned out to be serious, and that's a little frightening.
We've come a long way from sharla and nia being the worst characters in the game because support is either unnecessary or outclassed. I took 1 very quick look at signifer and troubador, had to do a double read, and realized what absolute tomfuckery monolith out into the game. Its so fucking stupidly strong and i love it
@@Zefiro151 Actually Seraph uses Unlimited Sword the best since class and master skills aren’t carried over to Lucky 7 but Seraph’s awakening buff still applies. This means the only class/master skill relevant to Lucky 7 is Capable Hands which allows Talent Arts to be used immediately. If anything, Seraph and Flash Fencer should get bonus points for Lucky 7 since they’re the only classes with relevant tools for it and Unlimited Sword isn’t exclusive to Swordfighter at any point. Also, front positional arts are drastically better than other positionals since the AI is almost never taking aggro from you and time spent moving is time spent not dealing damage. The only exception to this outside of chain attacks is break arts since the Ogre class only has access one as a side positional.
@@DeltaZapdos I see your point, however it is also true that once you unlock their master arts and skill you can just give capable hands and the front positional art to swordfighter. And if you die or if Unlimited sword ends, you can still recharge it pretty quickly while not taking aggro because of Shadow eye and the exclusive swordfighter skill. Seraph can deal more damage but if you die while charging Unlimited sword or when you are using it you lose all of your charge and it is way more difficult to regain it while staying alive. It is true that awakening is useful tho.
@@francis2728 not at all you cant have signifier skills paired with noah attack boost skill unless if you play noah's class with the signifier skill and that's very obviously bad while in troubadour's case other classes cant inherit shadow parade wich is a major reason of why you play troubadour anyway
@@francis2728 med has attack+ on a field, signifier has it on a party wide fusion skill how is that even comparable and healing barely matters in most fights since chain attacks are busted
Guardian Commander is definitely too low. It's definitely better than Lost Vanguard, same with the Heavy Guard. Also, Lifesage definitely outclasses the heck out of the War Medic, sorry. Royal Summoner is also FARRR too high. There are also other things such as a lot of misinformation and other mistakes in this video, but i feel like i might be too lazy to point them all out... 😑
if you take into account the challenge gauntlet debuff classes are actually really good, the debuff boosts are great, also guardian commander doesn't struggle with aggro if built correctly and it's definitely better that vanguard give it's skills
Alright, I'm an idiot. Somehow during editing the Lone Exile was left out. Not sure how that happened since I wrote the script and recorded it with Lone Exile included but whatever. If you're wondering, I put Low Exile in the Upper Mid Tier before Zephyr as it's pretty squishy.
I love that set up.
I was looking at all the classes and realized which ones you didn't go over without noticing Soulhacker and thought you were crazy for putting Lone Exile at the top lmao
Lone Exile is squishier than Zephyr, but it's way better at actually getting aggro. And squishiness can be easily dealt with thanks to healers. Getting more aggro from Zephyr isn't as easy
My personal favorite is a 100 % crit rate Arts spam team! Lapidarist gives everyone +20 % crit rate, Incursor gives itself +25 % crit rate - then add Frenzied Combo to everyone, and Eye for Weak Points to all non-Incursors. Then merely ensure Incursors have 35 % or more base Crit Rate, and everyone else 42 % or more - voila, crits-only Arts spam team. The one Ogre is the exception, being entirely Reactions-focused. Tank is obviously Zephyr, and Lapidarist with the Signifer kit.
Best part: No matter how hard the Incursors spam, Zephyr just never loses aggro with this setup, because essentially turns into a Beyblade that _never stops Art canceling_ once a certain Crit Rate threshold from Eye for Weak Points is reached. xD
One of my favorits videos of yours i keep coming back and rewatching this as i unlock each hero going thru the story
Sweeeeet. I love this game. Enjoy my friend!
Sena might have gotten the short end of the stick story wise but at least she has one of the best classes in the game
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Imo FMJ should at least be top tier. It is one of the best AOE classes and it has busted evasion. Also in chain attacks, you never miss attacks and thats where the majority of damage comes from anyway. Also since its a Keves class you can give it a smash art and both Jackal Claw and aerial slash that gives it evasion and high Damage multiplier.
Kinda sad we never got a Ether Ultimate Qigong (Like "A" has in the dlc) in the main game tho.
Good point. It’s a hard class to place for sure.
Yeah for that reason FMJ is arguably the best gauntlet class but chain attacks although fun a slower way to kill enemies
@@moosoose4661 It is slower but way safer. Really helps with against Seraphic Ceratinia with his instakill moves and AOE attacks. Also once your in a chain attack the chance that the enemy lives after that is practically zero. And i think in Future redeemed that chain attacks are really necessary since Enemys have such high HP. But yeah in gauntlet they are kinda useless. its kinda like a safety net there. not much damage but it can help you recover.
@bamboozled4912 yeah chain attacks are super overpowered. Generally against ceritinia I prefer to not do a chain attack (even though those are safer) because it's faster not to
@@moosoose4661 Yeah understandable. An instant win button isn't the most fun too lol. Also it interupt the songs and that's a shame (even if i really like the chain attack theme).
Material artist should be top tier. It does very big damage consistently. Especially you have link arts with power charge and add the fast recharge in the mix with the talent art.
I agree. It gets its additive damage bonus super easily, it innately has a skill that lots of other classes want, and it has a really high crit rate to capitalize on the strategies it wants to use.
Im replaying this now 👍
I’m in Chapter 5 of Xenoblade 3 so far, and I’ve been rocking out with Taion as SwordFighter along with some accessories like Nopon Strap that randomly recharges your arts.
Did you include lone exile? Asheras class
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This video made me realize how little i know of the battle system lmao. I just used whatever as i got it. The classes i thought were good are ranked quite low.
I think you severely underestimated noponic champion. I tortured my self by playing the game severely underlevelled on hard mode and without NC i dont think it wouldve been remotely possible. The incapicitation mechanic was very meh but did come in handy during the harder boss fights. It was the healing and art recharge that made it a staple tank for me. In large groups of enemies no tank beats this class period as you can spam evasion arts to no end. On bosses i found it to last longer and endure better compared to zephyr (I did put zephy's talent art on my build though). Overall was useful all the way to postgame.
I think you make a good point. It’s not an easy class to rate because it’s so strange.
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True
you may as well just make another tear in between the low tier in the mid tier for the amount of times you’ve had to split the mid tier into two groups
It’s true. I usually only do it with games that have more than 10ish choices.
Love the who is best vids. Keep em coming!
Will do!
Where’s the outfit tier list
Haha Hero tier list probably.
I agree… I was hoping for outfits lol!
Wait, You wrote The Immortal Cure? I picked up both those books because a promotion was held at my college. Crazy how things work out.
SUU?
@@locloudanerpg Yep. Southern Utah University.
@@lukedelameter7961 haha I worked there. If you bought the book, you almost certainly bought it from me. That’s wild. How did you find my YT channel?!
@@locloudanerpg Mostly by accident. I think it was the Shining Resonance video a few months back.
@@lukedelameter7961 dang that’s crazy. Welcome to the channel!
What are the chances that we will get another pakage with a class?
It's weird that we still have an empty slot in the class selection.
The DLC is over. If there is more, it would be out of complete left field.
@@locloudanerpg yeah, but the game will still get new content with the new Xenoblade amiibos. So maybe they could use the chance to add Mwamba as a hero with a class that uses the animations of medic gunner. Altought this is very unlikely.
@@NEOET that would be hilarious. I’d love Shulks and Rex’s class.
I'd love to see you cover FFXVI one of these days. Game is pretty good. Has lots of customization and everything.
Oh for sure. I’m halfway through. We’ll eventually cover all the Eikolens
@@locloudanerpg Right. I've beaten it. I did everything other than some end game challenge stuff and that took me 73 hours. I feel some Eikons are just not as good, either from Feat or from their Abilities. But a lot of it is subjective. And I love that.
@@redmagelala I just got Ramuh. My hot take is that Garuda is pretty good at breaking and Ramuh and Phoenix are so so.
@@locloudanerpg I'd rather use other Eikons because breaking, in my opinion, isn't that good. Gouge has that "goes on for far too long" effect that Ignition is guilty of (Ignition does good damage though) and Aerial Blast is expensive.
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Theres no point in tiering 16 cuz everything is progression based rather than optional. That means every single piece of gear and weapons. The summons on the other hand are unlocked through progression so the game does NOT really have anything to tier other than amazing moments in the game that can be tiered lol
Does anyone have the artwork from the thumbnail?
Never paid that much attention for all details. Just made an longer chain with stacking damage....
I still need to finish this game and I got it day one lol.
I don't blame you. It's a long one.
I disagree with the Guardian Commander, for me he is the best heavy guard, is true that doesn't make so much damage and it only has one art to draw aggro, but if you put him Resonant Flag and Shield Wall this class can be incredible, his skills are really good, if the enemy is not attacking a guardian it will increase your art recharge speed and with the Talent Art Deflector Field with the Resonant Flag and the whole team will have the Awakening buff and I think the Noponic Champion is the most broken guardian, every time you evade an attack you have a little chance to heal yourself and if a close ally receive damage your Arts will charge so fast and if you die, you will make more damage and more Art Recharge speed
Heavy gaurd can pass awakening...
Can you do the suikoden games that you missed?
I will for sure!
Ya gotta do a Super Mario rpg list soon. Remakes don't wait.
Yeah you’re right. What’s your hot take on that tier?
@@locloudanerpg Bowser at the bottom, low utility and no great special moves.
Mallow next, classic Red Mage syndrome of not being the best healer or damage dealer. Mario in the middle, solid all around stats but nothing spectacular. Peach above, great healer and powerful final attack but squishy. Geno at the top, hits hard, hits fast and solid specials.
@@torru36 Haha sounds about right though I always pictured Bowser above Mallow and Peach maybe beating out Geno...maybe.
Stalker wasn't that bad for me. The side attack hits really hard and the back bleed art has a fast recharge so it farms talent art quickly, has more chances to apply bleed and will eventually charge noah's ultimate sword. You also get an evasion art and being an agnus dps class you can add FMJ quickdraw for a third positional for talent art.
The skills are contradictory and do not work well with each other but it is not bottom tier. Deffo not worse than tactician and thaumaturge
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Lapidartist, seraph, fmj and royal summoner imo seem way too low.
sword fighter and incursor seem a bit high.
FMJ can just be used as an evasion tank if player controlled despite it being an attacker class due to it having the possibility of running all fusion arts evading all attacks plus it's talent art also provides evasion, it being ether sucks a bit cuz no ultimate qigong but despite this, it's not bad.
Royal summoner is really good when used in Seraph nuke settups in gauntlet mode. Also for some reason it's talent art is not infact ether it's physical (this means ultimate qigong works with it)
Seraph is one of the best ways of getting awakening (a really good buff that op does not touch on at all (awakening also cannot be pulled from signifier) ) and as i said before it's an integral part of SERAPH nuking gauntlet strats.
Lapidartist imo should go next to troubadour and signifer cuz it's basically a better version of them as lapidartist preforms better at signifier's job than signifer itself (once you get to that 100% crit rate)
Sword fighter does have the strongest art in the game yes but it doesn't have much else other than that and it's inability to take aggro, this is a good thing but if you run sword fighter you aren't running incursor nor seraph.
Incursor fits in god tier but not at the top (imo that goes to seraph for reasons mentioned before) but most of it's skills are really nice (especially EFWP as that crit rate is very useful on lots of builds)
Elimination beam would be so nice for damage but soulhacker is the only class that can't take advantage of the absolutely broken frenzied combo skill 😢>:(. (So I personally find the dps kinda mid)
Also signifer would be good but I don't even use it because a buffer soulhacker is strictly better.
Signifer's problem is that it gives its most impactful art (Resonant Flag) to other classes, and Soulhacker gives stronger and most importantly consistent buffs. I do agree with attacker Soulhacker being middling due to not having access to the powerful regular class skills and its strongest arts are ether based. Honestly, Ultimate Qigong by itself completely kills all two and a half ether attackers (the half being Royal Summoner) since UQ is pretty much straight up the single largest damage boosting skill.
@conorb.1901 yeah for some reason element genesis is considered a physical attack for some reason (idk) but either way most people just take summon element and EG and put it on like a seraph instead
@moosoose4661 I do find it hilarious that Royal Summoner backloads so much damage into EG that it benefits more from UQ than anything else. My problem with Royal Summoner is that it's just slow. Sure you have a 400% additive, but it takes a while to stack up when Seraph can pretty easily be sitting on ~300% for using three arts in the beginning of the fight
Yeah, that's why I honestly think Troubadour and Signifer are kinda mid classes. Once you get their master arts (which you don't even need to do their ascension quests for iirc), there's no real reason to use them. You can just give their arts to other classes and have them be even better.
And Buffer Soulhacker is really the only reason why Soulhacker is a god-tier class. Without that set it's just mid
@@ianluk6385 to be fair troubadour is pretty nice for art recharge but the benefits do not outweigh a SH + lapidarist build because frenzied combo already exists
am i dumb or you didnt mention ashera's class?
F^%# me….. I have no idea how that was cut out of editing. That sucks, thanks for the heads up!
@@locloudanerpg hei, happens to the best of us
@@theabsoluteduckman7631 thanks duckman.
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There's so much wrong with this list lol.
Martial Artist should be near the top, face tanks being better than dodge tanks at the end game (hello dodge spam), Lone Exile being lower than Zephyr even though it's almost strictly outclassed by Lone Exile, Swordfighter being higher than Seraph somehow, Soulhacker being higher than Seraph despite having only 3 skills no useful talent art and only getting good arts near the end of the game, Soulhacker being called the best DPS in the game when it can only do that inside chain attacks (and outside of them it's usually outclassed by Seraph and Incursor), and not a single mention of Buffer Soulhacker the single beat build in the game.
I almost thought that this was a joke for a bit, but it turned out to be serious, and that's a little frightening.
I unironically say that Noponic Champion is the best Defender class.
We've come a long way from sharla and nia being the worst characters in the game because support is either unnecessary or outclassed.
I took 1 very quick look at signifer and troubador, had to do a double read, and realized what absolute tomfuckery monolith out into the game. Its so fucking stupidly strong and i love it
Honestly I don't think lucky 7 is a strength of the swordfighter class, every class can use it
yes but swordfighter can charge it quickly since it has access to many positional arts and it can partecipate in combos.
@@Zefiro151 Actually Seraph uses Unlimited Sword the best since class and master skills aren’t carried over to Lucky 7 but Seraph’s awakening buff still applies. This means the only class/master skill relevant to Lucky 7 is Capable Hands which allows Talent Arts to be used immediately. If anything, Seraph and Flash Fencer should get bonus points for Lucky 7 since they’re the only classes with relevant tools for it and Unlimited Sword isn’t exclusive to Swordfighter at any point.
Also, front positional arts are drastically better than other positionals since the AI is almost never taking aggro from you and time spent moving is time spent not dealing damage. The only exception to this outside of chain attacks is break arts since the Ogre class only has access one as a side positional.
@@DeltaZapdos I see your point, however it is also true that once you unlock their master arts and skill you can just give capable hands and the front positional art to swordfighter. And if you die or if Unlimited sword ends, you can still recharge it pretty quickly while not taking aggro because of Shadow eye and the exclusive swordfighter skill. Seraph can deal more damage but if you die while charging Unlimited sword or when you are using it you lose all of your charge and it is way more difficult to regain it while staying alive.
It is true that awakening is useful tho.
*Isn't this game basically xenogears?*
Idk I feel like medic gunner / war medic should be much higher than troubadour / signifier.
why
@@theabsoluteduckman7631 because they can both heal better while using the best arts from troubadours and signifier
@@francis2728 not at all you cant have signifier skills paired with noah attack boost skill unless if you play noah's class with the signifier skill and that's very obviously bad while in troubadour's case other classes cant inherit shadow parade wich is a major reason of why you play troubadour anyway
@@theabsoluteduckman7631 my point is a med gunner / war medic with signifier skills is a better healer and buffer than the other way around
@@francis2728 med has attack+ on a field, signifier has it on a party wide fusion skill how is that even comparable and healing barely matters in most fights since chain attacks are busted
Guardian Commander is definitely too low. It's definitely better than Lost Vanguard, same with the Heavy Guard. Also, Lifesage definitely outclasses the heck out of the War Medic, sorry. Royal Summoner is also FARRR too high. There are also other things such as a lot of misinformation and other mistakes in this video, but i feel like i might be too lazy to point them all out... 😑
if you take into account the challenge gauntlet debuff classes are actually really good, the debuff boosts are great, also guardian commander doesn't struggle with aggro if built correctly and it's definitely better that vanguard give it's skills