Securing Your Trailer with the Proven Industries Wheel Lock

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  • @ac-6569
    @ac-6569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For all the expert haters, LOCKS are intended to deter and slow down theirs. All Locks and systems can be compromised with the right tools and time, the idea is to send them away without your property. I like this shell lock and will be ordering one. Thank you for sharing, good job!!!

  • @brucefarrar7359
    @brucefarrar7359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't worry about the ums and ahhs. We know you are a guy providing great information. Those offering advice mean well so keep it up...you will get it.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks 👍

    • @MindBodySoulOk
      @MindBodySoulOk ปีที่แล้ว

      They suck and you know it Bruce. I heard you owe em money and you have to say stuff so they don't come after you. Lay off the sauce Bruce before it's to late. You don't know what's in that stuff.

  • @maxprepper9126
    @maxprepper9126 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Got one, love it.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. Love mine as well. It's a great locking solution albeit a bit limited on what trailers and wheels it will work with.

    • @RVingwithG
      @RVingwithG 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RoughRidersTV WHAT? NO LINK, NO CODE??? :)

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RVingwithG Code is Jay Sent Me. Link is Provenlocks.com

  • @toddnicoll9711
    @toddnicoll9711 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The brass key cylinder is still the weak link. Relatively soft and easy to drill, and accessible to the thief.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They've updated the lock design and now offer a stainless steel cylinder. I posted an update video a couple of weeks ago on it.

    • @karenstein8261
      @karenstein8261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try it some time. You really think the cylinder is unprotected?

    • @toddnicoll9711
      @toddnicoll9711 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karenstein8261 I do if it’s a brass cylinder. The stainless one would be a different story. If thieves want something they will get it. As the old saying goes “locks only keep the honest people out”.

  • @christoole6820
    @christoole6820 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    could you still just take the wheel off and just slide the whole thing off of the leaf spring? I have a hard time envisioning it. Just making sure and thank you

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't clear the lugs on mine.

  • @timdurpos3298
    @timdurpos3298 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You need one for each wheel and a hitch lock make them work for it

  • @MaryOKC
    @MaryOKC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well that is excellent.

  • @darkwater482
    @darkwater482 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would loop a rope around that lock and run it up to the hitch to remind me I had the wheel lock on.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point. I did forget I had it on once when I wave moving the trailer down my driveway with my truck. LOL

  • @Huckabuck2
    @Huckabuck2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review 👍

  • @MindBodySoulOk
    @MindBodySoulOk ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks to me like an easy lock to pick

  • @timdurpos3298
    @timdurpos3298 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like you could cut that with a portanle angle grinder on the back side

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      maybe, but it would be a pain to get to and certainly not quiet. Thieves want fast, quiet opportunities so they can be in and out before anyone notices and not draw attention.

  • @gimmeanathlon
    @gimmeanathlon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Good review. Professional.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts

  • @kevinunger433
    @kevinunger433 ปีที่แล้ว

    That won’t work on my trailer. It has disc brakes. Even the other type, reach around , has problems

  • @imdeplorable257
    @imdeplorable257 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks good i looked it up the question I have is, can you remove the tire and in turn and have enough play with the lug nuts removed to remove the lock from the leaf spring? I have a tri axle trailer with a $150000.00 center console boat sitting on it that I worry about. I suppose I could put 2 or 3 of these on the same side. Right now i use security chain and locks. I suppose i could use both. Anything to make a thief think twice because where there's a will theres a way!

    • @imdeplorable257
      @imdeplorable257 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      update never mind it won't work with trailer brakes

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good question. I'm not sure it will actually clear the lugs, but I will have to give it a try to see. Hadn't thought about that approach.

    • @christoole6820
      @christoole6820 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RoughRidersTV can you get enough clearance to just remove the wheel? I bought this thinking that there would not be enough clearance. Good lock but useless if you can just take off the wheel. And locking lug nuts are not secure either

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christoole6820 I can't clear the lugs on mine so you can't remove the wheel.

  • @kronoswolf8335
    @kronoswolf8335 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How about tow truck back wheels that they put on the back wheels of cars?? that is a easy way to steel that.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, as mentioned, a determined thief will always find away. I don't claim this will prevent every mode of theft but it does go a long way in deterring thieves. The harder it is to steal, the more likely they are to move on to an easier target. I am guessing not every thief has expensive tow equipment like dollies, etc. as part of their standard gear. Sure, specialized equipment can defeat every lock but the more specialized the equipment the smaller the amount of thieves will have said equipment.

    • @MrLmm001
      @MrLmm001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      A regular flat bed tow truck with the drop ramp can just back up, hook up the winch and pull the trailer with the wheel lock on and dragging the wheel. They do that every day to vehicles with the transmission in park and dragging the wheels

  • @lilcourtney2075
    @lilcourtney2075 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey where did you get it from

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From Proven Locks. They sell direct to customers. www.provenlocks.com/collections/wheel-locks

  • @oldschool823
    @oldschool823 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    looks like just remove the wheel, and it will come off? is this true?

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, because you don't have enough play to get the wheel to clear the studs.

  • @opichocal
    @opichocal 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you seen lock picking lawyer on TH-cam? This guy shows how easy some locks are defeated. I thought my cable locks were good but he showed how bad they really are. I agree anything to slow thieves down and make them look elsewhere for easier targets. I think visible cameras around my property and on my truck make most criminals move on.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have seen some of them and they make picking just about any lock look easy. I imagine though that the average thief does not have a specialized skill like lock picking. But agree, any extra security like cameras, cables, etc. is always better than nothing.

  • @naamangeist7843
    @naamangeist7843 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It looks easy enough to make my own. Looks like all they did was drill a hole through a puck lock to receive the bar. I've got stainless bar stock in the scrap bin at work that can be bent with our hydraulic press. Hmm... Thanks for the great idea?

  • @karenstein8261
    @karenstein8261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To all the “experts” claiming it’s an easy device to defeat: Let’s see your video! Put up or shut up.
    Better yet, let’s see YOUR locking solution.
    As for life in general: What a world we live in if we need a minimum of SIX locks for each trailer!
    1) Hitch ball receiver lock
    2) Hitch pin lock
    3) Receiver release lever padlock
    4) Wheel lock
    5) Locking lug nuts
    6) Trailer cargo door lock
    Get a rope!

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is unfortunate for sure. I'm all for open discussion and debate as I have no stake in Proven Locks nor do I get checks from them when people buy. So, if they don't like the lock, it's no impact to me if they don't buy. However, I think the criticism of the lock primarily comes from a video they saw on another channel. What they don't take into account is that 1) the video they reference is outdated and Proven has updated their pucks. 2) the video referenced does not take into account real world factors. Thieves work under the cover of darkness not in a well lit room. They work on locks that are physically connected to a trailer on uneven ground, not on a flat bench surface with the puck just sitting there. 3) they work under the risk of getting caught from making noise, being seen, etc. 4) they don't have time or foreknowledge of the lock, they just come across it, they don't have the luxury of taking time to study the lock and look for exploits.
      So their arguments fall flat when you apply real world scenarios in trying to defeat this lock.

  • @roncummins9614
    @roncummins9614 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If thieves are going to steal a trailer, they will bring tools and they can just take a couple of bolts off the leaf springs and loosen the security bar.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure, any determined thief will find a way around any security measures. However, you post assumes that thieves have scoped out a trailer and planned accordingly. However, that model doesn't fit with crime statistics. Most crimes are crimes of opportunity. They are spontaneous and unplanned. This means thieves are not typically scoping out, planning and carrying all the tools they need for any given situation. Thieves don't want to make a bunch of noise, nor do they want to take a lot of time in the commission of their crime because it increases their risk. Thieves want quick/easy targets. The better the lock, the more work they have to put in defeating it which means more noise and/or more time. So, I stand by my assertion that the quality of this lock is an effective deterrent.

    • @roncummins9614
      @roncummins9614 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RoughRidersTV I was just making a comment that, if determined, nothing is 100% safe proof. To be honest, I already order this for my trailer, so thank you for the video.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@roncummins9614 No problem. I apologize if I came on too strong. I have just had previous commenters that seem to slam locks like that saying that they aren't worth it and I totally disagree. Thanks for watching.

    • @roncummins9614
      @roncummins9614 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RoughRidersTV No Worries. My OCD kicks in and I worry too much and think about what thieves can or will do. But you are correct; They want to get in, steal it and get out. I ordered both the receiver and wheel lock.

  • @americanrvtraveler2446
    @americanrvtraveler2446 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The puck lock can be defeated in less than 60 seconds using a hand held drill and a good drill bit. The best devise is a GPS tracker.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They have models with a stainless steel core if you are really worried about drilling it out. I agree a GPS tracker is a good idea as well but would not solely rely on a trackers. Trackers only help after it's stolen. My goal is to deter thieves in the first place.

    • @karenstein8261
      @karenstein8261 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Show us how. You don’t think they put anti-drill pins in the lock body?

  • @elkbow
    @elkbow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From what I've read, for those that had the lock and someone tried to steal the trailer, the Puck broke as soon as it rotated.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've never heard of that one. Its a solid block of aluminum housed in a steel sleeve. I don't see how you can rotate it.

    • @elkbow
      @elkbow 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RoughRidersTV the wheel rotates, not the puck, the aluminum puck snaps in half once torque is applied. Be best to get the all steel version of the puck.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elkbow Ah, my mistake. Actually, L forgot to remove it on my trailer once and dragged it down the driveway. Both good and bad as I didn't realize it and I could still move the trailer. But at any speed the tire would have shredded and made a hell of a racket. Puck did not break nor was lock damaged in any way.

    • @elkbow
      @elkbow 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RoughRidersTV just lucky I guess lol

  • @Ojeramup12
    @Ojeramup12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The key cylinder is already falling out.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not on mine. Solid as a rock

  • @Handirifle
    @Handirifle ปีที่แล้ว

    As mentioned NOTHING is totally thief safe, especially with cordless angle grinders, that could easily cut the shaft of the lock, between the spring and tire.

  • @oldschoolisnewschool
    @oldschoolisnewschool 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    199.00
    For an aluminum lock.

  • @OttoMatieque
    @OttoMatieque 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Trunk Monkey's are more effective

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL. I hadn't heard of that until your comment. Went and watched the video, that's funny.

  • @1973deepee
    @1973deepee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The good: thanks for taking the time and making the effort to provide this information. I really appreciate that. The bad: if I offered you $1 for every "uh" you uttered in this video to do another video in which you don't say "uh", would you redo your video?

    • @briancollins3177
      @briancollins3177 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You would have to give him about $100,.....I found it so annoying I restarted the video and counted with hash marks on a note pad,....the final count told the story.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, I keep working on it but I don't script these things, everything is shot without rehearsal and in 1 take as I do the work. I try to be aware of it when shooting but not easy. It's not a problem when I rehearse everything over and over as believe it or not, I do presentations for large audiences on a regular basis, even occasional keynote speeches at some tech events but I prep everything well in advance, work out my presentation decks, etc. It's only off the cuff stuff when I am figuring out what I want to say as I record it. I think I'm getting better but future videos will tell I suppose.

  • @briancollins3177
    @briancollins3177 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You've done some great and informative reviews. The Proven Industries stuff seems well thought out,....I have concerns about the ease that the brass lock cylinders are said to be drilled out. One comment if I may,......I eventually got overwhelmed by your frequent use of "Ah", "Umm" and "You Knows" as space fillers,.......I found it so off-putting,.....I went back to the beginning of the video,....got a note pad and counted Ahs, Umms, and You Knows with hash marks,.......about 100 all in. I would encourage you to start hearing yourself when you say "Umm", Ah" and "You know",.....Eliminating those will go a long way in improving the quality of your otherwise great videos,....and make them easier to listen to/ view. Trying to help not criticize,....I like your videos.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment Brian. Yes, the ums, drive me nuts as well. Unfortunately, I don't hear it when I am actually filming and can do something about it. I only notice it in editing and have little options to correct but I don't want to reshoot the whole thing. It happens when I shoot from the hip and haven't actually scripted out what I want to say and cover in the video. But when I script it out, I find myself staring off camera at the script trying not to screw it up. I'm working on it but I guess it proves my reviews are honest and not just a pitch for a company that gives out stuff for good reviews. LOL. Do appreciate the feedback though and I agree, it is quite annoying. Hopefully it will get better as I make more videos.

    • @briancollins3177
      @briancollins3177 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RoughRidersTV I joined a local Toastemasters Group years ago. Helped me stop the same things. keep doing the great videos!

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@briancollins3177 I've thought about doing that as well as taking an improv type class so I can learn to inject a little humor. Irony is that I do technical and customer presentations for work on a regular basis in front of large audiences and I never have this problem. If I know the material before hand and have a flow in my head, I never stammer or fill spaces and I am totally comfortable in front of crowds. It's only when I shoot from the hip with no plan in mind, just turning the camera on and jabber. Really bad combination for sure.

    • @briancollins3177
      @briancollins3177 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RoughRidersTV That's interesting. I did notice that it would completely disappear at times,........Awareness is half the battle, you'll sort it out.

  • @TTSetters
    @TTSetters 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder what lock picking lawyer thinks.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't know that he reviewed this one. However, he has made his position clear in other reviews of their locks. His review found weaknesses in their locks but his review was also not of the current production model. Don't think he reviewed their newer stuff because everything he pointed out was addressed in all the production version stuff that I have for my trailers.

    • @TTSetters
      @TTSetters 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rough Riders I think I’m going to get their wheel lock. I think thief’s will see all the hitch locks, wheel locks, chain and what not and look for easier pickings heh. I’m going to get 2 wheel locks. Do you know of a ball / hitch lock that covers the ball hitch and tongue while driving? Seems that’s the only thing I can find. My gear is always in garage but when I stop to eat or whatever I’d like an extra layer ;)

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TTSetters Haven't seen any good locks to cover the ball when driving. That is a really hard engineering problem to solve. I agree, my biggest fear is stopping to eat. I always get a seat by a window where I can see my setup so no one takes it. Been on the hunt for a good solution for a while. I may just have to fab my own.

  • @donabele1243
    @donabele1243 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    For over $200, this lock will cost more than many trailers!!!

    • @Josef_R
      @Josef_R 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It'll cost less than any new trailer.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's not always the cost of the trailer...it's what in or on the trailer that you are trying to protect.

    • @austinrngr
      @austinrngr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your an idiot!!!!!

  • @OgglyGoogly
    @OgglyGoogly ปีที่แล้ว

    So if I was stealing this and assume you have lug nuts on the mag wheels.
    I would take my tandam car trailer and my dollys.
    Dolly your wheels up and put your trailer on my trailer and take it

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. And I could also use a helicopter to fly it out too. Your argument implies that there is no point to using locks because eit can be defeated. Yet I bet you lock your car when you park, lock your house when you leave. Why? those locks can be defeated easily. Every lock can be defeated with time, preparation and planning but the point is the overwhelming amount of thefts are crimes of opportunity, not some well planned heist like Oceans 11. The harder the lock is to defeat, the more likely they are to move on to easier targets. Thieves are not running around with a trailer, dolly and winch, staking out their target and waiting, they see something easy and take it. These locks are vey hard to defeat making the trailer a less desirable target. They deter thieves which is exactly what I want.

    • @OgglyGoogly
      @OgglyGoogly ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RoughRidersTV maybe different where you are our thieves here are driving round with dollys and trailers, they are using key responder boxes for cars, car jacking if its to hard, cutting locks if with battery angle grinders, doing cat converter thefts.
      If you still just have people running round with bolt cutters then yes you are lucky with your theives.
      Obviously wvery lock can be won against do I take a bunch if precautions and have gps tracking yes I do.
      But also been a thief in my teen years also.

    • @RoughRidersTV
      @RoughRidersTV  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OgglyGoogly Cat theft is everywhere, including here and takes all of 60 seconds to remove and be gone. Not the same as stealing a trailer. There have been plenty of studies on trailer theft and the overwhelming majority of theft are opportunistic, somewhere greater than 85% as I recall. Yes, they will have a handful of simple tools that will allow them to quickly remove a lock (bolt cutters, battery powered grinders, crowbars and hammers. Stuff that would snap a simple lock in seconds. If it takes them longer than 2-3 mins to remove the lock so they can be gone in less than 5 mins, most will move on. The exception to this is if the trailer is in an isolated place where risk of getting caught it low, then they will take more time. The cheaper the lock the worse the protection, hence making it harder to steal and it is a less attractive target. As for a GPS, I never state that this is a replacement for other solutions or to not use a GPS. GPS adds another layer of protection and certainly a good idea. This video is about not using a $20 lock that can be knocked off with a 3lb sledge with 3 hits. It's about using a quality lock that will deter thieves so they move on to easier targets. These locks do that pretty well because your typical tools like hammers, crowbars and grinders are useless with this design.

    • @OgglyGoogly
      @OgglyGoogly ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RoughRidersTV im not saying your video here is useless if thats what you are getting at.
      Here trailer theft is massive, when you are at a service station they will grab it off your car hook it to theirs take off, they will grab it while you are litterally at building site in full view of people, while tradies are at cafes eating lunch.
      Here its one of the biggest thefts boats bot so much but trailers, jetski, motorbike trailera, car trailers and especially 6x4s in Australia this isnt remote or in middle of bight crimes most of this stuff middle of day full of people around.
      That why I was saying where you are from they may not bring tools along.
      Our Airwing unit is one of the busiest in the world for this exact reason car theft and trailer theft is huge. I agree the more locks the better as yes it will slow them down or make ut to the point where they size up the value of the trailer to is it worth all the hassle.
      Here you can get a second hand 6x4 trailer for $200 bucks so even the most basic locks its not worth it to rhem unless there is tools or such inside.
      But if they drive past and it has tools, motorbikes in or on it a jetski then yes they will take it.
      Most these guys are just driving around looking for trailers in streetsz building sites, cafes in industrial areas and just drive around until they see something of oppurtunity.
      Some will drive round with tandems to tow onto and hook up.
      You can even have the cable lock and have a wire adjuster that locks the brakes on trailer if you have them. All sorts of ideas and all are worth trying at the very least.