@@FreeOfFantasy you can not avoid that. By trying to make a spot feature less, it being blank becomes the identifying feature. But yeah: if the spring would have been back instead of front facing, all of that would have been an non issue.
@@sarowie Lots of the surface of that lock is blank. I just would have liked them not putting the locking feature under the inscription. It would have been easy enough to put the thing on the bottom or at least to the side.
As long as it doesn't have "Master Lock" on it you'll be pretty safe. Most locks are forced rather than picked, and it's generally easier to smash what the lock's attached to than pick it anyway.
If it can't be hammered or cut (tin snips, bolt cutters, etc) it should do the job. Remember, most locks are simply a thief deterrant, and if they really want what you have, a clever and determined individual will most likely get it.
@@OriginalGriff What about Masterlock's Nighwatch feature available on some of their pricier models but when that feature is engaged, manipulation becomes moot afaik. Not even the lock's key will work when NightWatch has it's red belt on.
Most thieves would not have a clue where to drill Or how to get into these locks, this guy shows the world exactly how to get into every lock. And we enable him by watching these videos..... So in the grand scheme of things us watching his videos are Just Helping thieves steel more stuff.
The people who steAl are dumb as a box of rocks and not studying youtube to "steAl more stuff". He has a skill, skills can't be gained expect by hard work and dedication. These people do not possess either of those qualities.
It doesn't matter if it was 30 seconds exactly all he's trying to do is tell you it's not going to take long to drill through a lock so it might have been between less than 30 seconds more more than 30 seconds who cares
@@simonsmith2802 It did take exactly 30 seconds from when he first placed the tip of the drill and later removed the lock entirely. But the drilling itself was much closer to 12 seconds lol
Apparently they fixed it now, put the locking pin on the other side and used a better material and core. (BB 1606) In 2 months they completely redesigned the lock because of an exploit featured in a TH-cam video.
Bro ive tried to unlock my car and turned the key both directions and it didnt unlock once. I wish i would have recorded that because i have never and probably will never see that again.
Here we go again, another video, I just ordered these on Amazon, and here you give a lesson on how to take that lock off, this is crazy, stop doing that. I had no idea that that could be done, and probably an amature, but now, you showed them how to overcome it. Thanks
I don’t know if you have any say in who or what advertises on your channel but this is the most appropriate ad I have seen on a locksport channel to date and I watched all of it. It was an assa abloy ad.
That is the problem, locks dont work. If the attacker has unrestricted access tools always defeat materials. The only thing the lock does is either cause a short delay or make noise.
Iron 4 Troll Patrol Correct nothing can withstand drilling/grinding/explosive/plasma cutter entry. It’s a time delay noise generator that is all. After seeing LPL nothing can withstand picking/shimming/impression either. At work “multi billion pound company” we have a secure oil store. It has a swipe card entry. A key over ride. After watching LPL videos I realised that the latch was that badly fitted “large gap” I could open the door just using my little finger. Madness...
He and BosnianBill already invented a pretty neat pick for Disc locks. If they develop a lock which withstands even their attack methods (and which is relative cheap in production), lots of lock producing companies get into (well-deserved) trouble :) . Good secure locks already exist. Search BosnianBill's channel for Challenge locks he failed to pick (I think the keyword is "Whipped"); he got some locks with at least one so-called "Trap Pin". LPL came across several of them too during the years. Trap pin concepts usually leave the lock in an (at least temporarely) unuseable state which can only be reset by taking the lock out of the door so you have access to the trap pin mechanics. Unfortunately those locks are complex and not cheap. Some of the trap pin videos show the locks gutted so you see the additional things.
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Finally I have a reason to watch one of these, not that that stopped me from watching every other one. We just picked up an older racing trailer to use as a mobile piping and storage area. Need a good lock for the ball hitch on it, this probably won't be the one. They were talking about a tracker and a boot for the wheels, but I wonder if a good tongue lock and keeping the insurance paid up is the best route. The boot may just scream I am worth the effort to steal.
I did some research when buying a lock for my trailer and ended up with the Proven Industries hitch lock, but due to your channel I decided not to use their lock. Instead I opted for a hardened steel Cobra puck lock with an Abloy core. Obviously nothing is going to be 100% safe but I felt this was the best I could get.
I´m really not interested on lockpicking techniques but I can´t stop watching your videos! in fact I never saw no one of these padlocks and locks, I live in south america!
When that drill fetched up, I thought you were fixing to snap it. Nice job catching it before it did, knowing my luck I'd have let off the trigger just a little too late and snapped it clean off.
I don't know how I stumbled upon your channel. Honestly, at first I was like, why would anyone show how to pick locks online? Then I realised that I have been doing it just for fun on my own for years and you are doing the same, while exposing security flaws... Keep it up!
Perhaps the industry needs the equivalent of the British Thatcham system (which if memory serves correctly was started by a bunch of enthusiast buying from the local shops and testing car security devices like steering locks and alarms) they now are near enough the governing body for vehicle safety and security devices and advise insurance underwriters and manufacturers 🤷🏻♂️
William Williams What you have just recommend is Single Butt Cheek value engineering or as like to call it putting lipstick on a Pig because you still have not fixed the systemic problem. To get around your great fix all a person has to do is drill to the side of your 5/16 “case hardened screw” and push the latch in from the side. Or take a small torch or torch lighter and apply heat to the screw you loctited in and use a center punch and a hammer to walk your “case hardened screw” with some gentle tap tapping taps of the hammer because all loctite products soften/melt when heated. Lastly you would not want to use a “case hardened screw” because case hardening is a surface hardening process to make a screw/plug far more drill resistant you would need a thru hardened screw/plug. All that I wrote above is more or less a moot statement because the core of this lock is not made of decent metal itself as LPL pointed out in his first video about this lock. He stated that the core appeared to be made out of Zinc or other such metal and because of that is vulnerable to an attack by a propane torch where you just melt the core out of the lock. Sorry if I seem to be a bit harsh that was not my intention but rather to point out trying to polish a turd all you get is a shiny turd and this lock is a silver colored turd regardless of which way you look at it.
Check out BosnianBills review. LPL would not do it because he is a hater lol( Review:Proven Industries Puck Lock) I would have the link but it does not display if i attach it .
American Lock makes a Zinc puck lock, when they're choosing such crappy material you have to question what the actual purpose of these locks is as it definitely isn't securing stuff. They would almost be better off making it from brightly colored plastic and calling it a puck loto.
Or one (unnamed) lock company that makes theirs out of aluminum. I know it's only a matter of time to physically (destructively) defeat a lock, but at least put some effort into it.
I find myself in the market for new trailer security and am taking MUCH more time than I did in the past. Before, I use Ft Knox Locks. Recently, I upgraded to their stainless lock body. That being said, what puck lock would YOU use on the Proven Industries shields?
Please do a video on what picks and tension tools you use and where to buy them. I want to get into picking and locksmithing in general but I don’t know how to tell if something is actually worth buying or if it’s just another “amazons choice” if that makes sense.
Would you mind telling me what brand and type of drill bits you use? I drill metal all the time...( not locks ) and nothing I have would cut through SS like yours did.
suppose i had a piece of AR500 steel or some other strong alloy cut in a circle the size of the lock and tack welded it or jb welded it to the lock? i assume it would be a bit harder for the standard street thief to drill?
Nice of Proven Industries to machine their name into the lock so now less honest folks than ourselves will know exactly where to drill the hole. Thanks Proven Industries and LPL.
I was just about to ask when are you going to drop your own lock brand, but then I got to thinking..it’s to much of a liability. Someone buys your lock and a cheap Walmart hasp..someone opens and steals whatever they used your lock to protect..smh damn. Well thank you for the very informative videos!
Well looks to me like a work around to slow down the lock drilling would be fairly simple. On the tube the lock slips into simply weld a 4 inch extension to it. Cut a slot in the bottom of the tube extension enough to slip the lock up and then press the lock back into the locking position. Have a 1/4 to 1/2 inch plate end cap the diameter of the original tube welded on the end of the extension. Would be extremely difficult to try drilling the lock.
I hope you publish a clarification. They've changed the material to much harder to drill, and the lock actuator is no longer accessible from the front. Also nearly impossible to pick. Love your videos!
Tony G Tony G Hello Tony G , Thanks for your comment. We have changed the lock, we are now using Medeco M3 cylinders standard in all of our stainless locks and we also added some more additional upgrades, like a deadbolt style lock so its not spring loaded and rotated the lock hole to the back. We sent one out to LPL and he received it 9/12/2019 so hopefully he will review it soon to show all the new improvements!! Thanks again for your thoughts.
If the front (drilled) surface was smooth & conical in shape, would that make drilling more difficult? Also, they seem to have provided a really nicely placed starting location for the drill.
@lockpickinglawyer I've got a new 2022 AirStream arriving in 30 days and love the Proven Industries setup, but, am curious if the stainless steel version that is now out with the Medeco M3 (instead of the packlock in his video) core is up to snuff or if its best to get the multilock MT5 TR pucklock?
Manufacturer: What to buy a cheaply made lock? LPL: You don't want to sell me a cheaply made lock. Manufacturer: I don't want to sell you a cheaply made lock. LPL: You want to go home and rethink your life. Manufacturer: I want to go home and rethink my life.
Their standard key locks use a Paclock core which the LPL has some reviews of, it seems to be a very good core for the price. I wouldn’t get the stainless steel version though as it is not worth the price. Check out the comments from the previous video on this lock for more info.
here u go Check out BosnianBills review. LPL would not do it because he is a hater lol( Review:Proven Industries Puck Lock) I would have the link but it does not display if i attach it lol
Hehe! I was called out to do a similar task to a brass body padlock with a Stanley best core, which was no longer engaging the mechanism to release the shackle. About 10 seconds to just drill a 3/16" hole through the side close to where the bearing is, and reach in and release the lock.
What about welding/braising/tacking a hardened steel plate to the front of the lock? Would obscure the brand, obviously, but might it protect against this attack? Would need a friend with a welder, grinder, and some hardened steel, obviously. I'm thinking you'd need a relatively thick sheet of hardened steel to protect against the cheap drill bits. Barring that, what DO you recommend for a good puck lock, LPL?
Just an idea. Maybe a lock scale for difficulty. 0 locks would be screwdrivers and hammers, 1 lock would be a drill or raking the pins, and 10 locks would be the hardest to pick
I had to dill my brother's lock off his trailer and it took longer to put the drill bit in the drill than to get it unlocked. Once the drill bit hit the cylinder it popped open no need to pick it open.. Was like drilling butter..
After watching TLPL for some time now I've come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a pick proof/drill proof lock at all. I guess it's all about the time taken to bust in to a lock.
You would be correct. No lock is truly unpickable or unable to be drilled or ground open given enough time and persistence. That said, a lock that is resistant to most unskilled picking or bypass techniques, and has enough physical toughness to require prolonged use of loud/conspicuous power tools to open is usually enough of a deterrent for many real-world applications.
It might not be completely drill proof, but PacLock's cone-shaped puck lock comes pretty close. And good luck using power tools on any of the Altor SAF locks.
So I've been practicing picking lately, and I just bought a couple new padlocks. The master lock I bought has, and I quote "A pin tumbler cylinder for increased resistance to picking" I've been laughing at that description for about a half hour now. Send help.
If you want to reduce that 30-second break-in time, I suggest a chip-clearing style TiN coated cobalt steel drill bit. You can run them faster in stainless than other drill types. Ex: McMaster-Carr #3183A54 or #3020A22
it is easy to drill a hole in a lock but it still takes a lot of knowledge about different brands of locks and their construction to know exactly where to drill. i don’t consider this a no skill attack. i don’t think every criminal is going to case their target and research the brand of lock to find their weaknesses then go back and precisely drill and open the lock
One consumer-implemented option would be to drill a hole part way into the lock, then press a hardened ball bearing into it to prevent people from drilling in that spot.
This is very interesting, always worried about trailers getting stolen, had one at a service shop stolen because they used a very cheap 1/4" chain on the fence that was cut, probably with 24" bolt cutters. What kind of drill did you use to drill this lock? Carbide? Cobalt? Thank you.
lol... every lock manufacturers best friend and worst nightmare... i guess those lawyers traits are showing ;-D Side note: from the looks of it with how 'soft' that steel was, going slow with a sharp bit, this could actually be done pretty damn quiet as well (definitely quieter than hooking up the same trailer said lock was securing)
My guess is that these videos circumventing security items would be more beneficial to a thief than it would be changing the minds of most manufacturer's, if its selling good why changing anything , hopefully one day it will & if it does I wonder what they would manufacturer to replace it ? & cost ?
Hey 👋 TLPL, people trust you so you should design the best locks and manufacturers multiple types of locks 🔐 for the average consumer like a puck lock!!
i think Proven Industries should either burn through more cutting tools making the lock or make a more drill resistant plate that could be placed inside to guard the locking lug. another way would be to make the locking lug have another pin on it like door latches so it hits a dimple in the back of the lock to lock the lug so even if you drill it the lug wont be pushed as it would have another pin that works like the security pin on door latches
This is easy to fix. Put a harden steel metal blank inside the lock on top of the key way. It may not stop a drill attack but it would take longer than 15 seconds to drill.
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When LPL tells a lock to go to the garage:
Lock : I'm doomed.
Plot twist actually locks something with it
Just wait till your lawyer gets home.
Warranty is void if you take it to the garage.
LPL: to the garage!
Lock: *(pees in his pants) ANYWHERE BUT THE GARAGE*
nearby War-Lok with hole "don't laugh it'll happen to you"
Did you see that he put the hole into the corner of the L? They even included a locating mark. Very helpful of them.
ukezi Handheld drills tend to drop into nearby dimples. That corner was closest to the correct spot.
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 Exactly. The corner was close enough. You just shouldn't put important features below such nice to drill spots.
@@FreeOfFantasy you can not avoid that. By trying to make a spot feature less, it being blank becomes the identifying feature.
But yeah: if the spring would have been back instead of front facing, all of that would have been an non issue.
@@sarowie Lots of the surface of that lock is blank. I just would have liked them not putting the locking feature under the inscription. It would have been easy enough to put the thing on the bottom or at least to the side.
Proven changed the lock since this video
do you have keys for the locks in your house or just lockpick set?
Good question LOLOL
Rule #2: Never pick locks you are using.
His front door lock is custom pinned to break if someone tries to pick it. That way he knows if anyone has tried.
Putting a key in is faster than any other methıd unless the shackle is like 1mm and u can ripp it off just stick the key in!
Lol
The issue with you is I don't know what to buy anymore. :D
As long as it doesn't have "Master Lock" on it you'll be pretty safe. Most locks are forced rather than picked, and it's generally easier to smash what the lock's attached to than pick it anyway.
A steel door, and welding equipment.
That's right : )
If it can't be hammered or cut (tin snips, bolt cutters, etc) it should do the job. Remember, most locks are simply a thief deterrant, and if they really want what you have, a clever and determined individual will most likely get it.
@@OriginalGriff What about Masterlock's Nighwatch feature available on some of their pricier models but when that feature is engaged, manipulation becomes moot afaik. Not even the lock's key will work when NightWatch has it's red belt on.
Most thieves would not have a clue where to drill Or how to get into these locks, this guy shows the world exactly how to get into every lock.
And we enable him by watching these videos..... So in the grand scheme of things us watching his videos are Just Helping thieves steel more stuff.
The people who steAl are dumb as a box of rocks and not studying youtube to "steAl more stuff". He has a skill, skills can't be gained expect by hard work and dedication. These people do not possess either of those qualities.
But without LPL, companies wouldn't care to make things better..double edge sword..
That wasn't 30 seconds, you're being very generous.
Or did you mean, 30 seconds to go into the garage, drill, open, and return to the table?
It doesn't matter if it was 30 seconds exactly all he's trying to do is tell you it's not going to take long to drill through a lock so it might have been between less than 30 seconds more more than 30 seconds who cares
@@simonsmith2802 He's using humor which you clearly missed. Read it again while thinking "how is his second sentence humorous".
without the screwdriver it was like 20 and with it like 25
I think he made a sandwich too.
@@simonsmith2802 It did take exactly 30 seconds from when he first placed the tip of the drill and later removed the lock entirely. But the drilling itself was much closer to 12 seconds lol
Apparently they fixed it now, put the locking pin on the other side and used a better material and core. (BB 1606)
In 2 months they completely redesigned the lock because of an exploit featured in a TH-cam video.
Can still drill out just might be a perfect circle to get to the lock.
So today's lock are improved. I notice this was 4yrs ago. Does vulnerability still exist?
I’m wondering the same. Is it improved now after 4 years?
I have fought with a key in its lock for longer than this a time or two in my life.
Bro ive tried to unlock my car and turned the key both directions and it didnt unlock once. I wish i would have recorded that because i have never and probably will never see that again.
Lubricate your locks, use something that has graphite or molybdenum in it since those tolerate weather better.
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I've been a fan for awhile. I just have to say, I really appreciate the clean, quick, clear presentation of your videos. Please never stop.
I really admire your finesse in everything you do. One of my favourite channels for sure!
LPL starts drilling...
Lock: I give up
Here we go again, another video, I just ordered these on Amazon, and here you give a lesson on how to take that lock off, this is crazy, stop doing that. I had no idea that that could be done, and probably an amature, but now, you showed them how to overcome it. Thanks
lock has been different for years, but you know he won't show that!
@@ronlee6529He usually does comment on when locks improve, stop being a debbie downer
I don’t know if you have any say in who or what advertises on your channel but this is the most appropriate ad I have seen on a locksport channel to date and I watched all of it. It was an assa abloy ad.
I’m waiting for this guy to come out with his own lock
That is the problem, locks dont work. If the attacker has unrestricted access tools always defeat materials. The only thing the lock does is either cause a short delay or make noise.
Iron 4 Troll Patrol Correct nothing can withstand drilling/grinding/explosive/plasma cutter entry. It’s a time delay noise generator that is all.
After seeing LPL nothing can withstand picking/shimming/impression either.
At work “multi billion pound company” we have a secure oil store. It has a swipe card entry. A key over ride. After watching LPL videos I realised that the latch was that badly fitted “large gap” I could open the door just using my little finger. Madness...
@@starcitizen890j5 Ouch. It hurts to notice when even that few bucks spent for the lock were wasted.
He and BosnianBill already invented a pretty neat pick for Disc locks. If they develop a lock which withstands even their attack methods (and which is relative cheap in production), lots of lock producing companies get into (well-deserved) trouble :) .
Good secure locks already exist. Search BosnianBill's channel for Challenge locks he failed to pick (I think the keyword is "Whipped"); he got some locks with at least one so-called "Trap Pin".
LPL came across several of them too during the years.
Trap pin concepts usually leave the lock in an (at least temporarely) unuseable state which can only be reset by taking the lock out of the door so you have access to the trap pin mechanics.
Unfortunately those locks are complex and not cheap. Some of the trap pin videos show the locks gutted so you see the additional things.
@@starcitizen890j5 as long as management feels good and can show the insurance company the door was locked, everything is fine
Everybody gansta till LPL takes the lock to the garage
Can you translate that from black to English?
Destruction 100
Lol
Nobody:
Will it fit in my Honda?
Hold my beer
Am I a joke to you?
Asking for a friend
Everybody gangsta
End this man’s whole career
He protecc, he attacc …
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Plot twist
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Finally I have a reason to watch one of these, not that that stopped me from watching every other one. We just picked up an older racing trailer to use as a mobile piping and storage area. Need a good lock for the ball hitch on it, this probably won't be the one. They were talking about a tracker and a boot for the wheels, but I wonder if a good tongue lock and keeping the insurance paid up is the best route. The boot may just scream I am worth the effort to steal.
Self-insure, be smart about where you leave it and hope for the best! 🤷🏻♂️
Mike Gustafson How do you yourself self insure?
I did some research when buying a lock for my trailer and ended up with the Proven Industries hitch lock, but due to your channel I decided not to use their lock. Instead I opted for a hardened steel Cobra puck lock with an Abloy core. Obviously nothing is going to be 100% safe but I felt this was the best I could get.
So glad I have the older version Proven locks. I was a little bummed to see a new version then I watched your review and was laughing.
I´m really not interested on lockpicking techniques but I can´t stop watching your videos! in fact I never saw no one of these padlocks and locks, I live in south america!
When that drill fetched up, I thought you were fixing to snap it. Nice job catching it before it did, knowing my luck I'd have let off the trigger just a little too late and snapped it clean off.
I don't know how I stumbled upon your channel. Honestly, at first I was like, why would anyone show how to pick locks online? Then I realised that I have been doing it just for fun on my own for years and you are doing the same, while exposing security flaws... Keep it up!
Thank you sir. We JUST bought one of these. Looks like I'll be swapping out the puck lock right away.
Perhaps the industry needs the equivalent of the British Thatcham system (which if memory serves correctly was started by a bunch of enthusiast buying from the local shops and testing car security devices like steering locks and alarms) they now are near enough the governing body for vehicle safety and security devices and advise insurance underwriters and manufacturers 🤷🏻♂️
"Let's head down to the garage..." is one of my favorite LPL sayings.
Right next to, "let's head out to the firing range."
Proven industries has since changed the lock body material and relocated the cylinder lug on there puck locks
Thank you, and I was thinking of buying this garbage. You just saved me over $200. God bless you.
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Instead of locks I put up some "no theft zone" signs.
LOL...
You won the internet for today
That's like:
Do Not Dumb Here
Not Dumb Area
I use those signs for target practice.
Swiper no swping! Swiper no swiping! Swiper no swiping! OH MAN!!!
Tap the hole . Put a 5/16 case hardened screw, loctite, punch and grind flush, now its a decent lock.
William Williams What you have just recommend is Single Butt Cheek value engineering or as like to call it putting lipstick on a Pig because you still have not fixed the systemic problem. To get around your great fix all a person has to do is drill to the side of your 5/16 “case hardened screw” and push the latch in from the side. Or take a small torch or torch lighter and apply heat to the screw you loctited in and use a center punch and a hammer to walk your “case hardened screw” with some gentle tap tapping taps of the hammer because all loctite products soften/melt when heated. Lastly you would not want to use a “case hardened screw” because case hardening is a surface hardening process to make a screw/plug far more drill resistant you would need a thru hardened screw/plug. All that I wrote above is more or less a moot statement because the core of this lock is not made of decent metal itself as LPL pointed out in his first video about this lock. He stated that the core appeared to be made out of Zinc or other such metal and because of that is vulnerable to an attack by a propane torch where you just melt the core out of the lock. Sorry if I seem to be a bit harsh that was not my intention but rather to point out trying to polish a turd all you get is a shiny turd and this lock is a silver colored turd regardless of which way you look at it.
@@gullreefclub no lock stands a chance against power tools, not matter how well it's designed.
Or weld a piece of 1/4" steel over face of puck lock, add a few criss cross beads 4 fun!
Was considering buying this coupler lock system…thank you for saving me $300.
Check out BosnianBills review. LPL would not do it because he is a hater lol( Review:Proven Industries Puck Lock) I would have the link but it does not display if i attach it .
@@erinschweitzer8937 Why don't you (Proven Industries) sell the coupler without the lock and let people use the lock they want?
Yeesh. Puck locks are already easier to drill because of how they mount, but did they really have to make it out of warm butter?
This made me laugh
Well, it had to be soft enough for them to grind that nice logo into the surface. Gotta make sure the product looks great.
Made even easier by having the deep engraving that stabilizes the drill bit.
American Lock makes a Zinc puck lock, when they're choosing such crappy material you have to question what the actual purpose of these locks is as it definitely isn't securing stuff. They would almost be better off making it from brightly colored plastic and calling it a puck loto.
Or one (unnamed) lock company that makes theirs out of aluminum. I know it's only a matter of time to physically (destructively) defeat a lock, but at least put some effort into it.
I was always told, a lock keeps an honest man honest.
LPL: Takes lock to the garage
Lock: A'ight, I'mma head out.
Theif: quickly searches LPL to find tips on specific locks 😂
LockPickingLawyer: "I'm about to end the entire Lock Industry's Career"
Nice vid!
I find myself in the market for new trailer security and am taking MUCH more time than I did in the past.
Before, I use Ft Knox Locks. Recently, I upgraded to their stainless lock body.
That being said, what puck lock would YOU use on the Proven Industries shields?
Intro: 47 seconds
Drilling: 15 seconds
Removing lock: 15 seconds
The title is misleading... It's way too generous to the lock.
The lock picking lawyer. Educating thieves every day!
Please do a video on what picks and tension tools you use and where to buy them. I want to get into picking and locksmithing in general but I don’t know how to tell if something is actually worth buying or if it’s just another “amazons choice” if that makes sense.
Love this channel just found it. Do you have a video on recommended trailer locks? What should I get for best security? Great channel thanks!
Would you mind telling me what brand and type of drill bits you use? I drill metal all the time...( not locks ) and nothing I have would cut through SS like yours did.
suppose i had a piece of AR500 steel or some other strong alloy cut in a circle the size of the lock and tack welded it or jb welded it to the lock? i assume it would be a bit harder for the standard street thief to drill?
Nice of Proven Industries to machine their name into the lock so now less honest folks than ourselves will know exactly where to drill the hole. Thanks Proven Industries and LPL.
I was just about to ask when are you going to drop your own lock brand, but then I got to thinking..it’s to much of a liability.
Someone buys your lock and a cheap Walmart hasp..someone opens and steals whatever they used your lock to protect..smh damn.
Well thank you for the very informative videos!
Have you tried on the newest version? They changed the lock since this video. Now uses a medeco M3 core, rotated 180 degrees, supposedly harder case.
Well looks to me like a work around to slow down the lock drilling would be fairly simple. On the tube the lock slips into simply weld a 4 inch extension to it. Cut a slot in the bottom of the tube extension enough to slip the lock up and then press the lock back into the locking position. Have a 1/4 to 1/2 inch plate end cap the diameter of the original tube welded on the end of the extension. Would be extremely difficult to try drilling the lock.
I hope you publish a clarification. They've changed the material to much harder to drill, and the lock actuator is no longer accessible from the front. Also nearly impossible to pick. Love your videos!
A really early upload and a great thing to wake up to. And as always, have a nice day, thank you.
I dread the day I see one of the multitude of locks you've covered in the field and have to fight off the urge to burgle...
Im glad I didn't spend my money on this lock thanks to you...great quick to the point video
Tony G
Tony G
Hello Tony G
, Thanks for your comment. We have changed the lock, we are now using Medeco M3 cylinders standard in all of our stainless locks and we also added some more additional upgrades, like a deadbolt style lock so its not spring loaded and rotated the lock hole to the back. We sent one out to LPL and he received it 9/12/2019 so hopefully he will review it soon to show all the new improvements!! Thanks again for your thoughts.
There’s so much more to life than picking locks.
But when TH-cam pays you money for it, that's amazing!
Could they change the direction that the core drops out so it's to the top so it can't drop out and is protected by the top part of the housing?
Lock Drilling lawyer.
Since he also shoots at locks together with BB, he should perhaps call himself LockKillingLawyer ;)
@@SystemX1983 he also safe cracks. TheLawerThatLikesToOpenThingsHeIsn'tSupposedToBeAbleTo
If the front (drilled) surface was smooth & conical in shape, would that make drilling more difficult? Also, they seem to have provided a really nicely placed starting location for the drill.
You must be a hell of a lawyer! Love the videos !!
@lockpickinglawyer I've got a new 2022 AirStream arriving in 30 days and love the Proven Industries setup, but, am curious if the stainless steel version that is now out with the Medeco M3 (instead of the packlock in his video) core is up to snuff or if its best to get the multilock MT5 TR pucklock?
What did you end up doing?
Manufacturer: What to buy a cheaply made lock?
LPL: You don't want to sell me a cheaply made lock.
Manufacturer: I don't want to sell you a cheaply made lock.
LPL: You want to go home and rethink your life.
Manufacturer: I want to go home and rethink my life.
LPL: These are not the locks you're looking for.
Manufacturer: These are not the locks I'm looking for.
@@kabochaVA I came here to say this!
@@dangriffin8211 Yeah, sorry. You're about 2 years late... 🤣
So what's the BEST trailer lock then? I was just about to buy this lock today. SMH😐
Me too 🤣🤣🤣
I'll wait. 🤬🤬🤬
Their standard key locks use a Paclock core which the LPL has some reviews of, it seems to be a very good core for the price. I wouldn’t get the stainless steel version though as it is not worth the price. Check out the comments from the previous video on this lock for more info.
Any big plans for episode 1000?
Giantelephantgenitalsinsideagiraffe Not really... 🤷🏻♂️
@@lockpickinglawyer wtf lol
@@junkman8742 I looked at it too and was like wtf. It's just the OPs username. I lol'd
@@ryancleaver6613 it's probably why he replied. LPL, He's a joker
LockPickingLawyer Picking 1000 locks in 1000 seconds? 😂
WTF, I spent $300 on that lock! He opens that lock faster than it takes me to put it on!
here u go Check out BosnianBills review. LPL would not do it because he is a hater lol( Review:Proven Industries Puck Lock) I would have the link but it does not display if i attach it lol
Hears someone outside my door "Ok, I'm about to do a low skill attack"
Racks shotgun..
Hehe! I was called out to do a similar task to a brass body padlock with a Stanley best core, which was no longer engaging the mechanism to release the shackle. About 10 seconds to just drill a 3/16" hole through the side close to where the bearing is, and reach in and release the lock.
What about welding/braising/tacking a hardened steel plate to the front of the lock? Would obscure the brand, obviously, but might it protect against this attack? Would need a friend with a welder, grinder, and some hardened steel, obviously. I'm thinking you'd need a relatively thick sheet of hardened steel to protect against the cheap drill bits.
Barring that, what DO you recommend for a good puck lock, LPL?
Just an idea. Maybe a lock scale for difficulty. 0 locks would be screwdrivers and hammers, 1 lock would be a drill or raking the pins, and 10 locks would be the hardest to pick
You've taught me how to finesse so hard, thank you!
ok, so what puck lock would you recommend for the proven industries trailer security bracket?
I had to dill my brother's lock off his trailer and it took longer to put the drill bit in the drill than to get it unlocked. Once the drill bit hit the cylinder it popped open no need to pick it open.. Was like drilling butter..
If a lock goes to the garage, It probably won't come back usable
Dang. Why didn't I find thjs video BEFORE I bought the lock. Now I have to live with it.
This in an old video and our locks have were redesigned, here is a newer video of how our lock system is th-cam.com/video/VjxGP4joTlc/w-d-xo.html
After watching TLPL for some time now I've come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a pick proof/drill proof lock at all. I guess it's all about the time taken to bust in to a lock.
You would be correct. No lock is truly unpickable or unable to be drilled or ground open given enough time and persistence. That said, a lock that is resistant to most unskilled picking or bypass techniques, and has enough physical toughness to require prolonged use of loud/conspicuous power tools to open is usually enough of a deterrent for many real-world applications.
It might not be completely drill proof, but PacLock's cone-shaped puck lock comes pretty close.
And good luck using power tools on any of the Altor SAF locks.
mate you are a god i bow down to you
nice that they give you a marking of where to drill
I feel like a few zip ties are just as effective as most locks.
These companies need you working for them to help them build a decent lock. Great video as always, keep up the good work.
OMGitsMADMUFFIN They probably can’t afford him. He is a real lawyer. Making big bucks charging in 6 minute increments.
So I've been practicing picking lately, and I just bought a couple new padlocks. The master lock I bought has, and I quote "A pin tumbler cylinder for increased resistance to picking" I've been laughing at that description for about a half hour now. Send help.
If you want to reduce that 30-second break-in time, I suggest a chip-clearing style TiN coated cobalt steel drill bit. You can run them faster in stainless than other drill types. Ex: McMaster-Carr #3183A54 or #3020A22
If you weld a 1/2" slab of hardened steel on the nose, then vulnerability elimimated. But what about any other weaknesses?
I’m sure thieves watching his videos and thanking him for a great ideas 💡😂
it is easy to drill a hole in a lock but it still takes a lot of knowledge about different brands of locks and their construction to know exactly where to drill. i don’t consider this a no skill attack. i don’t think every criminal is going to case their target and research the brand of lock to find their weaknesses then go back and precisely drill and open the lock
Do we know if these locks have been improved since this demonstration?
I wanted to purchase a lock for my trailer. Do you know if this has been fixed by Proven in 2024? Thanks
But how many times did you have to restart the drill when it stalled?
This comment doesn't have enough recognition.
As if he isn't running auto repair skills
Like butter.
One consumer-implemented option would be to drill a hole part way into the lock, then press a hardened ball bearing into it to prevent people from drilling in that spot.
This is very interesting, always worried about trailers getting stolen, had one at a service shop stolen because they used a very cheap 1/4" chain on the fence that was cut, probably with 24" bolt cutters. What kind of drill did you use to drill this lock? Carbide? Cobalt? Thank you.
lol... every lock manufacturers best friend and worst nightmare... i guess those lawyers traits are showing ;-D
Side note: from the looks of it with how 'soft' that steel was, going slow with a sharp bit, this could actually be done pretty damn quiet as well (definitely quieter than hooking up the same trailer said lock was securing)
My guess is that these videos circumventing security items would be more beneficial to a thief than it would be changing the minds of most manufacturer's, if its selling good why changing anything , hopefully one day it will & if it does I wonder what they would manufacturer to replace it ? & cost ?
You can almost hear the lock scream when LPL mentions The Garage ...
Hey 👋 TLPL, people trust you so you should design the best locks and manufacturers multiple types of locks 🔐 for the average consumer like a puck lock!!
LPL: Let's head down to the garage
Lock: Do you guys hear boss music?
LPL, can you advise which way the locking lug faces (side or back) on the Mul-T-Lock TR100 "Hockey Puck" Padlock?
How about welding a 1/4” hardened steel plate to the front of the lock? Would that at least delay breakin by a few seconds?
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i think Proven Industries should either burn through more cutting tools making the lock or make a more drill resistant plate that could be placed inside to guard the locking lug.
another way would be to make the locking lug have another pin on it like door latches so it hits a dimple in the back of the lock to lock the lug so even if you drill it the lug wont be pushed as it would have another pin that works like the security pin on door latches
I realize this is an older video but I'm curious what your thoughts are on Proven Industries Model S175 are? Thanks.
It’s a shame since the trailer tongue lock assembly they make is fantastic
to be fair that is a really nice cobalt drill bit
Another great review brother, thanks for sharing it
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Try the dewalt bits with the small centre and cutting faces either side. 6-14mm holes effortlessly. No pilots. They ruin locks
Well I was planning on buying the PI hitch and puck but, forget it now. They better come out with an alternative lock.
This is easy to fix. Put a harden steel metal blank inside the lock on top of the key way. It may not stop a drill attack but it would take longer than 15 seconds to drill.