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UK dev here. I have the exact same monitor, got it for £900 and I don't have any complaints about it coding wise. I found having VScode as my left half, then the right half as two browser tabs one for my code output and the other for youtube or browsing.
doesn't it get annoying that you always have to turn your head? because looking straight ahead you would half of each in your vision. seriously wondering
@@fooboomoo Not at all mate, I haven't had any issues. My only negatives after 2 months are some games dont support ultra wide and sharing your screen on discord can be annoying. I personally think the G9 with OLED is a lot better however I work with a lot of static content and I didnt wanna risk screen burn
I bought Dell 49" ultrawide and used it for few years, but now switched to MacBook 14" only. All changed when I've tried to use hyprland on linux with multiple desktops/spaces/however you name. Automatic windows tiling and keyboard shortcut gave me soo much extra speed in work, that big screen actually slowed me down.
for coding, as someone who uses just regular ultrawide now, i tend to use the center as my typing space then surround it with the tools that i need. i find placing my typing space at either side hurt my neck in the long run. as for previewing the compiled, i prefer an entirely separate monitor for it. the curves makes it almost counter-productive for graphical works for me since it physically curves out a supposed to be straight line. from experience from using bigger ultrawide before, the sides would honestly just be an unused space for the most part. they are cool for windows that you would open for a long time and look at from time to time though, so if you need those then you need those theres a clear workflow distinction between using a single giant monitor compared to using 2-3 separate monitors. i used to think that im a "super ultrawide" kinda guy. but after trying it for a bit, i much prefer a regular ultrawide without curve with a regular side monitor. still thinking if i need a 3rd, but 2 it is for now.
Im a programmer and I have a first generation Samsung odyssey G9 and my experience is extremely similar to yours. The one dislike I have of mine, that you didn’t mention about yours, was that this monitor gets hot. I mostly notice it when I’m gaming full screen. It raises the ambient temperature in my face to a point that it borders on uncomfortable. It’s not my PC, I’ve situated my Pc and my Linux servers in the next room to avoid the noise and the temperature changes. It’s literally the monitor itself. I recommend not getting a first generation G9.
I used a G9 Neo for about a year for coding and decided I disliked it so much that I went the complete opposite direction. For now I'm running a single LG DualUp and am loving it for coding. Using it with workspaces is a game changer. How I make it work is I'll have my editor on one workspace, browser or any other tooling on separate workspaces and then set those workspaces to hotkeys to quickly jump between. Personally I believe it increases my productivity by forcing my focus at a single thing at a time.
I have a super ultrawide plus a 3840x1600 ultrawide stacked on top. It's kind of a ridiculous set-up, but I love it. It is great for gaming, programming, 3d modeling, streaming, and my various other dumb hobbies. I don't think I'd ever go back to regular 16:9 monitors.
Jesus Christ, congrats mate! Thats probably more money for those 2 monitors than ive ever spend on monitors in the last 10 years combined :D Must be an awesome setup! :)
@@jdsd_ They definitely weren't cheap. But I didn't buy them at the same time. One is several years older than the other. I've had two monitors for a while and whenever one dies I try and replace it with something better. But hopefully I'll have another few years before I need to think about the next monitor upgrade.
Thanks for the feedback. I was contemplating switching to a 49in ultrawide monitor for work. My current setup consists of two 32in QHD monitors positioned side by side, but I've been getting more and more neck pain as I have to use either left or right monitor since the "straight ahead" position is unavailable due to the monitors' border. I'll keep your review in mind!
I love my Ultra-Wide Odyssey. I spend a good 10 hours a day in front of it. Mostly coding with some gaming in-between. I have a large desk so the size (both screen and stand) aren't an issue. I find having the right distance to the screen makes all the difference. I usually split the 5120x1440 screen in 3 areas as well, one larger in the middle for the code and two smaller on each side for other windows. I have a 2nd 1920x1080 monitor where i run/test the actual programs/apps i'm coding on. Couldn't be happier with the setup, i used to juggle 3 monitors (and a laptop) and i don't ever want to go back to that.
I have been using a Samsung 49 ultrawide for coding for 2 years now. No issues. Love it. I use my laptop and the app Rectangle to split my monitor into 3 sections, so I technically have 4 separate areas for placing apps if you include my laptop screen. It works great.
Great video! I have some feedback from personal experience. I upgrade from 3x 32" MSI 2K monitors to 1x 49" Samsung Neo G9. I absolutely love the UW as I hate the bezels and I could never get the 3 monitors perfectly aligned. The UW has a lot more flexibility in arranging content. I use the PbP mode all the time, and because it has 2 DP and 1 HDMI port, I have my personal pc, macbook pro and work pc connected and can easily switch inputs. I paired it with a logitech mx keys and mx mouse that have 3 profiles allowing me quickly switch. I did wait until BF and got the Neo for less than $1k. As for the stand, this stand is huge as well. To combat that and have adequate desk space, I purchased the AVLT Single 17"-49" Super Ultrawide Monitor desk stand. I use magnet to arrange the screens on my macbook pro and currently testing aerospace as a window manager.
I love my Samsung 57" Odyssey Ultrawide: 7680x2160. I use Microsoft PowerToys to split my giant screen into 4 bezel-less 1920x2160 screens. 1920 wide and 2160 tall is perfect for my IDE. The other 3 extra "screens" are for terminals, test area, and browsers. My primary use is productivity and gaming is secondary. I used to have the Samsung Odyssey 49" 5120x1440 and split it into 3 screens, but it was a little awkward. The 57" 7680x2160 OTOH is perfect!
There’s a “Coding” monitor the BenQ RD280U 28.2” 3:2 4K 3840x2560 Programming Monitor. BenQ actually markets it as coding monitor. It’s a little pricey at £650, but you can view a lot more vertical text on the screen and if you need the ultimate in productivity, get two 😊 Buying two of these would still be cheaper then the ultra-wide.
Honestly, if you're getting an ultrawide with a 5120x1440 resolution, there are a few things you’ll need for optimal productivity based on my experience: 1] Adjustable monitor arm - This is a must for better ergonomics. 2] Curved screen - It’s essential; otherwise, the edges can be hard to see. 3] Resolution insight - 5120x1440 is like having two 2560x1440 monitors side by side. 4] PBP mode - Some monitors allow Picture-by-Picture (PBP) with just one cable, letting you split the screen into two separate workspaces. It’s a much cleaner setup compared to using two monitors.
@@trignite if in full screen yes if its a part of the screen its not to bad and alot them support side by side side display so yaa its really nice still
I understand the real state space is nice but why go ultrawide? You need vertical space to read the code lines and logs, plus neck strain from looking too far at the sides. I got a 48" LGC2 and it's just great.
A lot of these seem like complaints you have about the setup and price, not about the monitor itself. Get a display port cable, find a solid stand, download a window management app to properly organize your apps and once it's setup, you have the best monitor. I'm a software engineer, and I cannot go back to any other monitors after getting a 32:9. It's insanely useful. Code and browser go in the center, spotify/terminal/task list/etc. go on the sides. Never have to alt-tab again.
An eye friendly 28“ 4K BenQ Monitor in the middle, two 24“ on the side, one of which I can use for Airplay so my dumb macbook can use a third monitor, which wouldn’t be possible unless I go with the more expensive model. I tried many things, this works great. My eyes are on the middle monitor 85% of the time anyways. My neck thanks me.
You do realize that remaining in a static position is bad for your health yes? This movement is both good for your body, and your eyes. It's probably also quite good for your thinking, although that not proven...yet.
@@chokocat9064 I don't think anybody is buying an ultrawide monitor because it is better for their health. If they are, they are stupid because there are probably like 20 other things that would improve your health significantly more. Just getting up from your desk every 60 minutes or so (which should be done anyway, regardless of monitor size), doing some stretches, looking away from your screen to relax your eyes, making a drink, or going on a short walk not only ensures you aren't keeping your neck static for long periods but also avoids eye strain and general cardiovascular health risks associated with sitting for long periods
@@chokocat9064 If it was true I still wouldn't care because it does not sound practical at all. Constantly readjusting your eyes is distracting when you need to focus on something.
Actually not, this should happen passively without you thinking about it at all, like breathing. If you have to do it actively you might have a problem (psychological or physical) and should seek care
I am a greybeard programmer (30 years coding and still going), with a 49" Samsung Odyssey and I have noticed a marked increase in my productivity after switching to it about a year ago.
Same here! Bought an Asus ROG Strix XG49VQ a ultra-wide 49-inch gaming monitor. Coming from a 27 inch imac 2019, I do not recommended ultra-wide monitors for coding, it takes some time to get use to it, your focus will surely take a hit. The workaround for me was to "split" the screen, left side the IDE and the right side the browser. You could also split the files into multiple tabs on your IDE so that you have full code view of multiple files at once.
Seems like there are a lot of strong opinions here. As a programmer I have never really understood the neck turn issue. If you have two, flat 27" monitors side-by-side you're still most likely needing adjust your field of view anyways...I think the benefit of having documentation right next to your IDE without needing to scroll is a nice bonus. Gaming benefits aside the picture-by-picture seems like a nice feature because I am usually toggling between workstations through the day and using a KVM switch just seems like a hassle compared to this. I have also been using two monitors with 60Hz refresh rates, so even 240Hz would seem surreal for me. Thanks for the honest video though. I think you may have actually convinced me to buy an ultrawide monitor XD
Yeah, I know someone with a 4K monitor and he regretted it. You could fit so much on the screen but you shouldn't have to zoom to 130% just to make any of it readable.
I have a similar monitor (G9) for 3D assets and LOVE it for productivity haha. I use the same 'priority' window setup you mention at 1:25 to put 3D software center and use the sides for reference imagery or Slack. At the office I have a smaller UW (21:9) and it's tough to use it sometimes after getting use to 32:9. I wouldn't call it game-changing, but it's VERY comfortable! The biggest drawback IMO is for personal use (i.e. gaming), since so many recording/editing/playback softwares break at that res, not to mention obscene file size :/ which sucks cuz I used to love taking fun clips...
Also a software engineer, this monitor replaces 2 standard 16:9 monitors. If you want to be productive on it, stop tiling your windows into sections and being strict about it. Same with PBP / PIP. Stop trying to treat it like ots multiple monitors and just use floating windows instead.
this!!! i'm also a software engineer, and I've been used to having 3 monitors my entire 'coding life'. i made the jump to the ultrawide, and it took me a couple weeks to actually get used to it. the biggest change I had to make was not having to have my windows 'full screen' anymore, and just have them floating. I also used powertoys to have specific "sections" on my monitor so i can easily drag them while holding shift and place them where i mostly use them! i also used AutoHotkey to program some quick actions like moving the clicked window to a certain spot if i'm holding ctrl + windows key, I mapped the left mouse click as a smaller section on the left of the ultrawide, the middle mouse button as PERFECTLY centered (a little down from the top, and a little up from the bottom), and the right mouse button as a smaller section on the right. this MASSIVELY improved my workflows : )
I love my Samsung Odyssey Neo G9, which has even higher resolution of 7680x2160. That is exactly like two 4k monitors side by side. And while you could just buy two 4k monitors for a fraction of the price, with this you have to option to use it as one large monitor. It is never any worse than the two monitor setup and sometimes you can do something more. For example VS Code is not very good at using two monitors, but with this you can just maximize and then use the split editor function to have two or three things side by side. Is it worth the money? Depends on your budget I suppose. It is nicer. It is expensive. It wont make you 50% more productive. I love it.
100% I don't understand why people prefer 2 4ks I have been told this so many times but it makes no sense other than from a cost standpoint (which is fine if cost is priority).
After working for years with 2 and 3 screens of 24 to 30 inch and damaging my health in the process (eyes strain, neck issues, head ackes, etc) I did some research and ended up for the best solution: 27" 2k rez and I am using virtual desktops to switch in between IDE, Browser, communication. On top of it I switched to Linux as main OS for the past 3 years. Unless you work with something like Unreal Engine or suepr professional Sound and Video editing, having ultra wide screen is pointless : D
Super ultrawides only have a couple uses from what I can tell: - niche productivity where having everything from multiple screens on one is superior to having the multiple screens in the first place (think something like NASA having 2-3 monitors per station instead of like 7 or 8, lol) - bragging rights in the gaming sphere, lol - more immersive gaming in simulation games for best productivity, I feel that the standard ultrawides (21:9/21:10) would be the better option. It balances screen size with the work, and you can have curved or flat based on preference. If needed, you can always have 2 of them, but you're likely better off with a 21:9 + 16:9 combo if you need extra space outside of the ultrawide. I'm currently running dual 16:9 monitors, but have found that I need a bigger one to improve things, and looking at how much space everything takes up currently, I believe the basic ultrawides would be the best option, and I'm aware of how valuable the standard widescreens are that I would like to keep them, even after upgrading to an ultrawide.
The best ultrawides are the same as having 2 monitors with no seam in the middle. I don't know why anyone would benefits from having monitor bezel right in the middle where they are sitting. To solve this with seperate monitors you actually need 3 of them.
@@JFlywheel issue is practicality. Don't get me wrong, the super wides are amazing in that you could have a seamless experience, but consider what happens when you're multitasking. I can pop up an app in full screen on monitor 1, and another app or two in some combo on monitor 2. Run that same full screen app on the super wide, and suddenly there's no way to properly multitask. And, sure, you might think there's not really a need for that most times, but that's dependent on your productivity. Again, the super wides are absolutely incredible for something like gaming. But I've got an option in my pc to link both monitors together to create a unified desktop, and if i'm focused on 1 half, and need something from the other half in regards to the taskbar, that's a hell of a distance to travel. Though, Win11 sorta fixes that via a centered dock-like task bar. Again, for more space, a standard ultrawide will be fine for most people, and the side monitor wouldn't be an issue, cause more than likely the ultrawide would be their main monitor in the first place. Here the bezels wouldn't obstruct your view, but simply break everything down into more manageable sections. Of course, if you'd prefer such a huge area with a seamless view, absolutely go for a super wide. But I think for most people, it would actually be impractical just due to the crazy distance to cover. Even though you'd still have that issue with 2 monitors, I think on a certain level, it's not readily noticed as being such a big deal, *until* you unify the desktop, as you're not consciously aware of the size until then.
@@RyuuTenno You can run an ultrawide exactly the same as having 2 or even 3 monitors. Just plug 2-3 seperate cables into it instead of 1, then put the monitor in PBP mode with 2 or even 3 monitors. It would work exactly the same as having 2-3 seperate monitors as you can split the display per connection (or even display 2-3 different computers at once), only difference is that there would be no bezels in the way between each section of the screen. You actually have less distance to cover than having 2 4k monitors next to each other, due to the 1000r curve and no bezel, and each section of the screen can have it's own taskbar as the computer would treat them as seperate displays in this configuration (I don't recommend running this way because then you lose the option to use the ENTIRE screen in full screen mode for one app, but you can certainly do it and it's no worse than having seperate displays). So there is litteraly no way that having 2 4k monitors is better than having one ultrawide with the same size and resolution.
I am using 3 x FHD (1080) and getting good service. Sits at a nice visual distance with most of the screen in view. Not too wide for the neck with a swivel chair to help. Center for for IDE and sides for utilities and documents, or an IDE on each side with docs in the middle when coding in 2 languages side by side. Using both sides monitors as primary for coding doesn't need me to pivot my head too much. Thanks for the review.
I have the same monitor and use it for programming and gaming. Yes I do have to move my head quite a bit, but otherwise, I don't regret getting it. I set everything up with power toys and I found it to be a great way to have multiple windows open and not constantly have to shuffle them to different desktops. My only gripe is that no one else at work has one so presentations are a bit difficult.
As an artis i believe this monitor is for me.... I need plenty of pace for my windows in Adobe Animate, blender, Affinty Designer , Photoshop and Specially in Davinci Resolve since I use alot of overlay videos and transitions so i need to see more of my time line.
Damn bro I hate this bots in the comments. Also I have ultra wide monitor and after a few days I played / coded on smaller monitor and I didnt saw any diffrence.
For programming, buy a 43" 4K monitor for about $500. The screen size is large enough so you can actually use the resolution without scaling stuff up. If you need even more screen, buy a second 43" 4K monitor. If you need more than 2160 pixels vertically, use a VESA wall mount to put the screen in portrait mode. You will still shell out less money than for the special monitors, be it the one in this video or the tiny Benq programming monitor. For gaming you might need a more expensive monitor, but for programming I think most people would be happy with a plain 43" 4K monitor.
I use a 49 inch curved 4k TV and a vertical 32 in monitor to the left. I keep the laptop open and use that screen space under the TV. It works well and allows me to keep chatgpt, vscode, a browser, winscp, and MySQL workbench or cmd open all at the same time.
So I think my experience with an ultra-wide as a dev is very different on macOS. In windows it's pretty common to maximize windows to full screen or side-by-side them. But on macOS floating windows makes more sense (at least to me). I have a 1440p ultra wide and I just treat it as a giant wall and have 2-3 editors opened in different parts of the screen, a terminal in the corner, TH-cam in a another corner -- it's just space for days. But if you prefer maximizing stuff I would think having multiple 4:3 aspect ratio monitors would make the most sense.
Use FancyZones then to split the usable central space optimally, and leave the extra space out wide for things like the music player, task manager graphs/system temps, or whatever. That's my approach at least
I bought a 40" monitor ultrawide monitor from DELL and honestly I miss my old dual setup. Too bad that the current industry is pushing 16:9 ratio. 16:10 or 3:2 is way better for dual setup as we get more height.
As far as I know, this monitor is two 27" 1440p monitors side by side so buying two monitors of that soec wont give you more real estate. For coding I would recommend something with the added height that you get in 16x10 monitor for instance. The vertical space is invaluable. My current setup is a LG 38" 3840 x 1600 ultrawide (not super ultrawide) which is essentially a 16x10 ultrawide and sits centered in front of me. It holds my IDE with a couple of tabs. Off to the side is a 16x10 24" 1080p monitor that holds my browser for debugging, reference materials, or acts as my screen share / presentation monitor as it matches most other people's monitor (or notebook screen) much better. I couldn't imagine going back to even a dual 16x9 setup.
I don't program for a living but I spend a lot of time going through scripts, documents, text files and the like. I got myself a 2560 x 2880p monitor and am amazed there are only a couple of them available and how little press they get. The only 'issue' I have with it is I've had to do some funky things with my monitor setup to accommodate games that only launch on primary monitor (first world problem) but now that I own one in my multi monitor setup I wouldn't want to go back to 2 16:9 monitors.
I haven't used the set up in a while now, but I have run two 27" side by side, and actually have the gear to do three of them, side by side. An insane setup was at the ISP I worked at several years ago : Three video cards and eight monitors, all on one machine. It was so loud though, we rack mounted the computer, and ran all the cabling through the wall into the next room.
the problem with multiple monitors are the bezels - especially with two monitor configurations. It means that you centre one screen and chuck the other screen off the side meaning anything at the far far side is basically wasted pixels. Also, when you watch movies in full screen on an ultrawide monitor and put on your dalby surround sound headphones life is pretty good.
@@baileysmooth I have a large screen TV for watching movies. And my dual monitor setup was centered with my keyboard. But you are correct about bezels, not worth trying to center an application across both screens. It was much easier to have a browser on one screen, while coding the page on the other screen. I was doing a lot of automation for an ISP at the time.
34", 21:9 and I definitely do NOT regret it. I have 2 of them. One with 1440p for my private PC and the older one (9 years) with 2560x1080 for my workspace for programming. For me it's the perfect size. I thought about getting the ultra ultra widescreens (32:9), but 34" in 21:9 is wide enough.
I tried an ultrawide and I didn't even last a full year. Spending a lot of time on it per day, it fatigued my eyes, even gave me a headache, simply because how much I was looking back and forth and doing it so far to each side. When I have a monitor and my field of vision is much narrower, it is so much easier to work on it for a full day.
I've never used a monitor larger than 27", and when I've used multiple monitors, one was a laptop. If I were to get an ultra-wide, and assuming my computer could handle it, I imagine I would put my task at hand in the center, using 1/3 to 1/2 of the screen area. Then I would put research or reference materials on the left, and communications (email, etc.) on the right. For video editing, I'd put the viewer on the left, but I'd also try the editor on the left and viewer in the center. I'd also put the monitor on a standing height table, or a sit/stand workstation, so that I could face what I'm reading (rather than turning my neck).
I've always hesitated on the ultra-wide monitors, even though I came close to buying a 49 inch. For the custom spreadsheets and reports I build for my customers, I always worry about compatibility, since I figure they're probably using HD monitors. I have 2 27" Asus HD monitors in landscape side by side, and a 3rd one in portrait right next to them, and I'm pretty happy with that arrangement. I'm not really a gamer, so the higher-end graphics aren't that important. If you work a lot with video, this ultra-wide would probably be great.
I’ve found it really great too. The 5k2k monitor are the sweet spot, but would love to try at 5k3k monitor for more vertical height. I also have a 27” 4k monitor at each end as well.
I'm thinking to buy a super ultrawide monitor as well. Although not a gaming one, as you already said, the gaming aesthetics these days is just not my style. Also I'm not sure that I like the curve. I would prefer a flat version and 240FPS is not a big deal I think. Anything above 120Hz I think it's too much. I also don't play games. The usage I intent to do and the primary reason why I "need" a super-ultrawide monitor I for development as well. I'm a front end developer and I feel that space is always in need. One part of the screen must be the page I'm working on, another part is the developer tools, another part for code and another part for figma to take reference for the design and if it's not figma then slack or some documentation page.The least amount of space I need for the website is 1366px wide and the rest of the space can be divided equally between other apps. So yeah, space is not enough. For the moment I utilize desktop spaces as much as I can but I find pretty annoying the animation. Right now my setup is the LG UltraFine you propose just the bigger 31.5" version and my 13" MacBook monitor. One big con with LG UltraFine is that it's at 60Hz and there is noticable light bleed on the corners. I wouldn't think to buy another one to have a dual setup because I'm not quite pleased with it and I hate having bezels even if they're slim. Coming from a pretty good Dell monitor my trust for LG took a toll with my purchase.
I use the same kind of monitor for coding and gaming on Ubuntu and it is amazing. I use a tiling manager and usually split 1/3 browser and 2/3 neovim with 3 splits then other desktops with chat, doc, etc. I use a arm instead of a stand to save place and it is amazing.
Fully agreed.. I have 2 49" ultrawides. (one gaming one graphics). And i'm ready to sell both and replace them wiht somethign more square. Gaming wise, to many issues, cameras in some games are too close and can't zoom out. Some "AAA" titles like "Starfiled" (if we call that AAA) didn't even support it at release (and for a few months)... Do not agree that getting two 27" gives yo more screen. a 49" is esentially dual 27". so unless you go for 32 duals' then sure, but not dual 27s. As for snapping.. with windows 11 i had most of the "power toys" build right in so allows me to set up that middle wide and two smaller on the sides.. for general work (graphics/text) they are ok ish. Still gona either pass them to my kids and get something of the mroe "square" veriety ..
I work on a 38" 3840 x 1600 screen with a 32" 4k as my second screen. 1440 is just too short IMO and so I went with the screen I have. I feel it is the perfect screen for side by side and I have hardly any issues with compatibility. I really just don't get the ultra wide 1440 thing.
This might not apply to everyone, but with two monitors I always have one directly in front and one to the side - typically the right hand side. Whereas with an ultrawide I have it centered. So the visual experience of two monitors vs ultrawide is very different in my case. I do prefer the dual monitor set up better for programming and day to day productivity. I even find I prefer it when drawing diagrams (technical architecture, not pictures or art).
I have a non-curved 44" super ultrawide and I mainly use it for Picture-by-Picture with my XBOX Series X. When I do use the full width for just my computer, I make sure to split everything into two distinct workloads. Usually the browser on the right and VSCode on the left.
What I dislike most here is the actual resolution - I have a 40" 5120x2160 with 140 ppi. Going down to 100 ppi or even less is an absolute no-go for me. Even my previous 38" 3840x1600 was too blurry for my taste. I would consider a 57" or 49" if they were 7680x2160. And 32:9 usually means the screen is not high enough. 49" 21:9? That sounds more like it. Regarding PiP/PbP, I find it more productive to connect to my work laptop via NoMachine where I can just move the window wherever I want in whatever size I want.
For me a 38" 3840x1600 (24:10) monitor is the best 1 monitor setup for sw development, gaming and internet. It is, less or more, like 2x 5:4 monitors without a basel in the middle. I used to have 2x 5:4 in the past, but also 2x 16:9 recently. 2x 16:9 is too wide and it is unconfortable for working on, you have to move your head too much. So when I had to upgrade I opted for 1x 38" 3840x1600 (24:10) monitor and it is perfect. Today I would choose an 5120x2160, but at the time it was not in production yet.
They suck for programming but excel for multitasking. I paired my G9 with a BenQ made for programming. All coding takes place on the BenQ and everything else goes on the G9. Can’t beat that.
I bought 48'' 4K Oled TV and large desk, and set comfortable scale. Theoretically it breaks the rules of ergonomics, and yet I have never had a better time programming. I don't need to focus so much to read anymore. Still enough space for multiple windows and my eyes thank me everyday as I'm sitting further away from the screen and I see the text well. After 8 hours I don't feel so tired which means it is much better than with smaller 4k monitors I had.
Feel like 34-42 is the sweet spot for UW productivity. Wish there were more in the market for this non gaming related. That being said… ditching mine as well for 2 monitors for simplicity. Miss the ability to have a vertical monitor at times being a FE dev 😅
Great review. I find if you put too much stuff on the screen(s) it starts fighting for your attention, even if it’s on the side. I find myself turning off extra monitors to be able to focus on what’s in front of me. However, I usually have 2 windows side by side. There might be too much for me.
I have had 34" at work. Something like 8 months. And i love it. I also bought new 34" monitor for home too.. I think its doing better the 2-half setup than 49" inch because side's are not so far off. I use mostly 2-half or 1/3 and 2/3 setup. Only sometimes one bigger two smaller. The smaller ones are really small with 34".... (both are 34" 4k)
My main concern is that at this size 1440p too low for crystal clear text. I am thinking about getting monitor that has resolution 5120x2160 which would be better at text sharpness.
I switched from multiple monitors to an ultra wide. I like to look straight on. But now I miss vertical space. I don't need more horizontal, I want a 40", 5k 16x9 monitor.
I worked at a company that gave all the developers an ulta-wide monitor. The code took a hit because some developers decided could now have ultra long lines of code. The readability of such code is terrible.
I get your point, but i also understand, why some people dont want a VA Panel for example, which are more affordable (like the Samsung viewfinity s5). If you work from home many hours a day VA panels are worse for your eye health and the color accuracy is also not as good, just to name a few examples. If youve got the spare money, an IPS Panel is better in almost all circumstances, but also costs quite a bit more. ...but i totally get your point, a monitor for freaking 1.500$+ is just insane 😄
That's their money they get what they want guy. If you can't afford it or just cheap that's okay no one will judge you unless you pocket watching on here
I'm very happy with my 34" IPS monitor, it's not super ultrawide. Adding another 27' monitor will just give you neck pain.. Super Ultrawide great for RTS gaming and streamers. If you scale too much you simply converting it to normal ultrawide.. Also thunderbolt 4 supports up to 8k@60hz Using the laptop monitor for previewing websites and managing chat. Using ultrawide monitor with two split screens for coding and browsing.
I have one 34" IPS with high refresh rate and another 34" VA with type C upstream so I can switch between Mac and Win computers. Also use the Mac small screen for Slack. Still missing a bit of real estate though for FE development.
At work, we have 2 1080p monitors, and it works OK. At home, until recently, I had an ultra wide LG with a resolution of 2560x1080. It was curved, and I used it for both work and gaming. Enjoyed doing both on it. But it died... Now I have a 2560x1440 monitor, not curved, and I appreciate the vertical real estate I gained. I miss the ultrawide ratio for gaming, but at least, not more black bars when watching YT videos in fullscreen.
I don't understand how you can use a regular monitor if you are a programmer or use only one monitor, so I don't understand the author's problems. I'm not a gamer or a designer and I'm primarily a coder and it's great to be able to set up multiple testing and editing environments on one monitor. my productivity has literally doubled with the purchase of a new monitor at my workplace.
Idk about you but I have the center for my editor and then surround it with two browsers or some other program. Hyperland is working beautifully with it. And also tmux for tiling terminal panes. Never had a problem. Also if your goal is to use the mouse as little as possible, Neovim, tmux with a tiling WM is the best thing you could ever use.
I had a Dell 34 inch ultra-monitor before. As a Developer myself.. I had to get rid of it and get a regular 32 inch 4k monitor as my primary display. I will get another 27 inch to use as vertical display.
I have the 45" LG Ultragear, and I don't find that I need to turn my head much with it. I also have it a bit further away than what people normally would have since my desk is curved. Also, I got another 27" flat ultra gear as a secondary vertical monitor because gaming with one monitor sucks lol. During work hours it just becomes either a slack or extra console display
Programmer, system designer, dev ops and team lead here and I'm using five monitors and a good window manager with tiled workspaces (xmonad). If you have work where you need to do a ton of context switching it really helps giving your different programs their own monitor: chat on the left, logs / monitoring on the top right and the remaining three monitors are for productivity: browsers, multiple webstorm instances, calls, etc. Instead of having to foreground a window or remembering where it is, you just look. Very rarely would a window I am looking for not already be visible (ie on a hidden workspace). No idea how I'd ever go back to having fewer monitors 🤷♂️
@@shams_shimulhaha fair question! Xmonad allows swapping of monitor content via shortcut. So if I need to look at any monitor other than my main for long I just switch the content there
@@0w784gIt's a screen size problem. Not a lot of 10k tall, curved monitors exist. I guess two curved monitors on top of each other might work. Would still be smaller than my current setup. And pretty pricey in comparison. Tldr; absolutely agreed! Technology just isn't there yet for me
Can you imagine a world where screen aspects ratio will be 1:√2... What a perfect world, countless hours of ui disgn saved, the same layout optimis to the pixel.
I've had the lg ultragear 38" for several years now. It's been fantastic. Replaced 2 monitors. Had many monitors but wqhd 38" is a great size and resolution, 49 too large for me.
The best ultra wide for programming is the Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 with dual 4K screens...can act as one complete monitor for gaming in ultra wide or two independent 4K monitors for multi monitor setup
To me, 21:9 + 16:9 monitor is the perfect middle ground. Another setup i've grown to like a lot recently has been 2x 21:9, stacked HOWEVER - your secondary is actually below, at an angle - almost like a drawing tablet
For anyone interested in another opinion on super ultrawides: Had a 57” samsung g9 odyssey neo for 2-3 months now and I love the thing. Similarly priced as the one here. Similarly, I would never go back to anything under 120hz. But I find the thing is amazing for productivity. It’s genuinely like 3 displays in one. What made me decide against a dual monitor setup was that I’d want the monitors to be symmetrically setup-which would mean putting the gap between them exactly in the center of everything I was doing. Only small downside is that, because of the resolution, it’s hard to find a gpu AND CABLE that support 8k @ 120 or 240hz. You *can* use two hdmi ports (setting it up like 2 separate displays) but I had some issues with that, like one side being @ 60hz (causing screen tearing). I’d do it again in a heartbeat though (except for the price bc ouch)
I have a triple 27" monitor setup. I want to upgrade at least the center monitor as they are all just 75Hz IPS panels. I'm wondering if I might benefit more from a super ultrawide--the triple monitor setup is really ridiculously wide, and less immersive for gaming because of the bezels between monitors
Time ago I had 3 cheap curved Samsung 24 inches, and I placed them like ultra wide, one in the middle the other two aside, then I realized how bad is for our neck to be still looking at one of the side screens, it is painful!! Pretty often I changed my code to the central screen to work for little longer, the side screens were just for quick glances. By those days ultrawide monitors were a trend but I never looked forward to get one. One day I placed them stacked, only 2 though but one upon the other and it was really good for productivity!! 2 monitors 24 inches stacked was a little too big but I made for 1 year working with them and my productivity increased much more. Now I have a LG dual Up it is quite good, is equivalent to two 2K 21 inches stacked and without bessels in the middle, not that cheap and only 60hz but no other brand has made that kind of format :/. Still I have only that dualUp and one smaller 16inches monitor on the side plus the laptop screen 4 screens total. 1 for productivity and the other 2 smaller in the side for quick glances, video calls or screen sharing!!!
I personally regret having ultrawides. The better format is 16:10 or 3:2 for especially coding. 21:9 works fine for excel and spreadsheet like work, but not for anything else.
I have a ultra wide at work and definitely do not prefer it. My biggest issue is that it is just to short. At home I got 2 monitors one vertical and one horizontal and that works much better for my use.
5:23 That's a bad contrast for $1600. At one point, I saw a $1000 Samsung super ultrawide with mini LED or even OLED. Although OLED burns in too fast with programming.
I just bought 3 24in MSI monitors and a triple monitor stand for 300 bucks and I couldn't be happier with it. I'm on a budget but honestly I can't see the pixels and I only use the setup for coding so I don't see why anyone would spend significantly more unless they had cash to burn.
My perfect setup is 3 27inch monitors side by side. I never trusted the software virtual monitor thing, especially since I use Linux a lot and never know how good the support will be for that.
I had a super ultrawide but changed to two standard ones. I focus on one and have the other as side info, chats etc. This can be achieved with a super ultrawide but for me it was to seamless. I noticed that i needed the space and how it is placed on the side to enhance focus. Perhaps strange but that worked best for me.
I have been loving being able to create much more content lately. Thanks to everyone who watches my videos and sticks around through this crazy journey of mine :)
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Please help me, I installed Linux Mint on my old Compaq CQ58 laptop and my Wi-Fi does not work, why?
When you realize an ultrawide monitor just gives you more space to stare at code you still don't understand
Yap so true i have a 34 inch and 16 inch
UK dev here. I have the exact same monitor, got it for £900 and I don't have any complaints about it coding wise. I found having VScode as my left half, then the right half as two browser tabs one for my code output and the other for youtube or browsing.
doesn't it get annoying that you always have to turn your head? because looking straight ahead you would half of each in your vision. seriously wondering
@@fooboomoo Not at all mate, I haven't had any issues. My only negatives after 2 months are some games dont support ultra wide and sharing your screen on discord can be annoying. I personally think the G9 with OLED is a lot better however I work with a lot of static content and I didnt wanna risk screen burn
Brazilian dev here, can you gimme the dimensions ? X and Y sizes ?
@@fooboomoofor same reason I avoided using ultra wide
Another dev here, do you recommand a wide screen or multiple screens?
I bought Dell 49" ultrawide and used it for few years, but now switched to MacBook 14" only. All changed when I've tried to use hyprland on linux with multiple desktops/spaces/however you name. Automatic windows tiling and keyboard shortcut gave me soo much extra speed in work, that big screen actually slowed me down.
for coding, as someone who uses just regular ultrawide now, i tend to use the center as my typing space then surround it with the tools that i need.
i find placing my typing space at either side hurt my neck in the long run. as for previewing the compiled, i prefer an entirely separate monitor for it.
the curves makes it almost counter-productive for graphical works for me since it physically curves out a supposed to be straight line.
from experience from using bigger ultrawide before, the sides would honestly just be an unused space for the most part.
they are cool for windows that you would open for a long time and look at from time to time though, so if you need those then you need those
theres a clear workflow distinction between using a single giant monitor compared to using 2-3 separate monitors.
i used to think that im a "super ultrawide" kinda guy. but after trying it for a bit, i much prefer a regular ultrawide without curve with a regular side monitor. still thinking if i need a 3rd, but 2 it is for now.
Im a programmer and I have a first generation Samsung odyssey G9 and my experience is extremely similar to yours. The one dislike I have of mine, that you didn’t mention about yours, was that this monitor gets hot. I mostly notice it when I’m gaming full screen. It raises the ambient temperature in my face to a point that it borders on uncomfortable. It’s not my PC, I’ve situated my Pc and my Linux servers in the next room to avoid the noise and the temperature changes. It’s literally the monitor itself. I recommend not getting a first generation G9.
Thank you for validating my already strong opinion
I used a G9 Neo for about a year for coding and decided I disliked it so much that I went the complete opposite direction. For now I'm running a single LG DualUp and am loving it for coding. Using it with workspaces is a game changer. How I make it work is I'll have my editor on one workspace, browser or any other tooling on separate workspaces and then set those workspaces to hotkeys to quickly jump between. Personally I believe it increases my productivity by forcing my focus at a single thing at a time.
Thumbs up for the DualUp. Awesome Monitor for Programming. I have two.
same, having a 49" and I want to downsize, it's just put me having useless stuff and loose focus all the time
@ClusterPuppet Same! I got a LG Dual Up! It's GREAT!
I have a super ultrawide plus a 3840x1600 ultrawide stacked on top. It's kind of a ridiculous set-up, but I love it. It is great for gaming, programming, 3d modeling, streaming, and my various other dumb hobbies. I don't think I'd ever go back to regular 16:9 monitors.
Jesus Christ, congrats mate! Thats probably more money for those 2 monitors than ive ever spend on monitors in the last 10 years combined :D
Must be an awesome setup! :)
@@jdsd_ They definitely weren't cheap. But I didn't buy them at the same time. One is several years older than the other. I've had two monitors for a while and whenever one dies I try and replace it with something better. But hopefully I'll have another few years before I need to think about the next monitor upgrade.
Thanks for the feedback. I was contemplating switching to a 49in ultrawide monitor for work. My current setup consists of two 32in QHD monitors positioned side by side, but I've been getting more and more neck pain as I have to use either left or right monitor since the "straight ahead" position is unavailable due to the monitors' border. I'll keep your review in mind!
I love my Ultra-Wide Odyssey. I spend a good 10 hours a day in front of it. Mostly coding with some gaming in-between.
I have a large desk so the size (both screen and stand) aren't an issue. I find having the right distance to the screen makes all the difference.
I usually split the 5120x1440 screen in 3 areas as well, one larger in the middle for the code and two smaller on each side for other windows.
I have a 2nd 1920x1080 monitor where i run/test the actual programs/apps i'm coding on.
Couldn't be happier with the setup, i used to juggle 3 monitors (and a laptop) and i don't ever want to go back to that.
The only thing 'super ultrawide' in my life is the hole in my wallet 💀
That’s what she said.
I have been using a Samsung 49 ultrawide for coding for 2 years now. No issues. Love it. I use my laptop and the app Rectangle to split my monitor into 3 sections, so I technically have 4 separate areas for placing apps if you include my laptop screen. It works great.
Great video! I have some feedback from personal experience. I upgrade from 3x 32" MSI 2K monitors to 1x 49" Samsung Neo G9. I absolutely love the UW as I hate the bezels and I could never get the 3 monitors perfectly aligned. The UW has a lot more flexibility in arranging content. I use the PbP mode all the time, and because it has 2 DP and 1 HDMI port, I have my personal pc, macbook pro and work pc connected and can easily switch inputs. I paired it with a logitech mx keys and mx mouse that have 3 profiles allowing me quickly switch.
I did wait until BF and got the Neo for less than $1k. As for the stand, this stand is huge as well. To combat that and have adequate desk space, I purchased the AVLT Single 17"-49" Super Ultrawide Monitor desk stand. I use magnet to arrange the screens on my macbook pro and currently testing aerospace as a window manager.
I love my Samsung 57" Odyssey Ultrawide: 7680x2160. I use Microsoft PowerToys to split my giant screen into 4 bezel-less 1920x2160 screens. 1920 wide and 2160 tall is perfect for my IDE. The other 3 extra "screens" are for terminals, test area, and browsers. My primary use is productivity and gaming is secondary. I used to have the Samsung Odyssey 49" 5120x1440 and split it into 3 screens, but it was a little awkward. The 57" 7680x2160 OTOH is perfect!
There’s a “Coding” monitor the BenQ RD280U 28.2” 3:2 4K 3840x2560 Programming Monitor. BenQ actually markets it as coding monitor. It’s a little pricey at £650, but you can view a lot more vertical text on the screen and if you need the ultimate in productivity, get two 😊 Buying two of these would still be cheaper then the ultra-wide.
Too bad this monitor doesn't have a better refresh rate ... max. 60 Hz sucks
I think the issue here was the huge 49" size and not the fact it's ultrawide
Yeah, I think it is too much for coding, maybe it's ok for video surveilance or trading...
Honestly, if you're getting an ultrawide with a 5120x1440 resolution, there are a few things you’ll need for optimal productivity based on my experience:
1] Adjustable monitor arm - This is a must for better ergonomics.
2] Curved screen - It’s essential; otherwise, the edges can be hard to see.
3] Resolution insight - 5120x1440 is like having two 2560x1440 monitors side by side.
4] PBP mode - Some monitors allow Picture-by-Picture (PBP) with just one cable, letting you split the screen into two separate workspaces. It’s a much cleaner setup compared to using two monitors.
Remember size of monitor matters as well as resolution
Curved is worse for watching things on though
@@trignite if in full screen yes if its a part of the screen its not to bad and alot them support side by side side display so yaa its really nice still
0:16 if that really is how you use it than you don’t know how to use a ultrawide for productivity
I understand the real state space is nice but why go ultrawide? You need vertical space to read the code lines and logs, plus neck strain from looking too far at the sides.
I got a 48" LGC2 and it's just great.
A lot of these seem like complaints you have about the setup and price, not about the monitor itself. Get a display port cable, find a solid stand, download a window management app to properly organize your apps and once it's setup, you have the best monitor. I'm a software engineer, and I cannot go back to any other monitors after getting a 32:9. It's insanely useful. Code and browser go in the center, spotify/terminal/task list/etc. go on the sides. Never have to alt-tab again.
life without alt tab is a dream
An eye friendly 28“ 4K BenQ Monitor in the middle, two 24“ on the side, one of which I can use for Airplay so my dumb macbook can use a third monitor, which wouldn’t be possible unless I go with the more expensive model.
I tried many things, this works great. My eyes are on the middle monitor 85% of the time anyways. My neck thanks me.
i feel like everybody goes through this and realizes big monitors suck because you have to move your head constantly
You do realize that remaining in a static position is bad for your health yes? This movement is both good for your body, and your eyes. It's probably also quite good for your thinking, although that not proven...yet.
@@chokocat9064 I don't think anybody is buying an ultrawide monitor because it is better for their health. If they are, they are stupid because there are probably like 20 other things that would improve your health significantly more. Just getting up from your desk every 60 minutes or so (which should be done anyway, regardless of monitor size), doing some stretches, looking away from your screen to relax your eyes, making a drink, or going on a short walk not only ensures you aren't keeping your neck static for long periods but also avoids eye strain and general cardiovascular health risks associated with sitting for long periods
@@chokocat9064 If it was true I still wouldn't care because it does not sound practical at all. Constantly readjusting your eyes is distracting when you need to focus on something.
Actually not, this should happen passively without you thinking about it at all, like breathing. If you have to do it actively you might have a problem (psychological or physical) and should seek care
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I am a greybeard programmer (30 years coding and still going), with a 49" Samsung Odyssey and I have noticed a marked increase in my productivity after switching to it about a year ago.
Could it have been from the divorce though?
@flogzer0 ??? Divorce? I've been married happily for 36 years.
Same here! Bought an Asus ROG Strix XG49VQ a ultra-wide 49-inch gaming monitor. Coming from a 27 inch imac 2019, I do not recommended ultra-wide monitors for coding, it takes some time to get use to it, your focus will surely take a hit. The workaround for me was to "split" the screen, left side the IDE and the right side the browser. You could also split the files into multiple tabs on your IDE so that you have full code view of multiple files at once.
Seems like there are a lot of strong opinions here. As a programmer I have never really understood the neck turn issue. If you have two, flat 27" monitors side-by-side you're still most likely needing adjust your field of view anyways...I think the benefit of having documentation right next to your IDE without needing to scroll is a nice bonus. Gaming benefits aside the picture-by-picture seems like a nice feature because I am usually toggling between workstations through the day and using a KVM switch just seems like a hassle compared to this. I have also been using two monitors with 60Hz refresh rates, so even 240Hz would seem surreal for me. Thanks for the honest video though. I think you may have actually convinced me to buy an ultrawide monitor XD
You have not talked much about ppi, For coding text clarity is single most important factor IMO.
Yeah, I know someone with a 4K monitor and he regretted it. You could fit so much on the screen but you shouldn't have to zoom to 130% just to make any of it readable.
I have a similar monitor (G9) for 3D assets and LOVE it for productivity haha. I use the same 'priority' window setup you mention at 1:25 to put 3D software center and use the sides for reference imagery or Slack. At the office I have a smaller UW (21:9) and it's tough to use it sometimes after getting use to 32:9. I wouldn't call it game-changing, but it's VERY comfortable!
The biggest drawback IMO is for personal use (i.e. gaming), since so many recording/editing/playback softwares break at that res, not to mention obscene file size :/ which sucks cuz I used to love taking fun clips...
Also a software engineer, this monitor replaces 2 standard 16:9 monitors.
If you want to be productive on it, stop tiling your windows into sections and being strict about it. Same with PBP / PIP. Stop trying to treat it like ots multiple monitors and just use floating windows instead.
Powertoys helps with this, goes beyond windows 11 options.
@@JFlywheel true. I used to be big on zoning things before I got my G9, then eventually just broke the habit and rarely do it at all anymore.
this!!! i'm also a software engineer, and I've been used to having 3 monitors my entire 'coding life'. i made the jump to the ultrawide, and it took me a couple weeks to actually get used to it. the biggest change I had to make was not having to have my windows 'full screen' anymore, and just have them floating. I also used powertoys to have specific "sections" on my monitor so i can easily drag them while holding shift and place them where i mostly use them!
i also used AutoHotkey to program some quick actions like moving the clicked window to a certain spot if i'm holding ctrl + windows key, I mapped the left mouse click as a smaller section on the left of the ultrawide, the middle mouse button as PERFECTLY centered (a little down from the top, and a little up from the bottom), and the right mouse button as a smaller section on the right. this MASSIVELY improved my workflows : )
How did coders use to manage on a dual colour display 😂.
I love my Samsung Odyssey Neo G9, which has even higher resolution of 7680x2160. That is exactly like two 4k monitors side by side. And while you could just buy two 4k monitors for a fraction of the price, with this you have to option to use it as one large monitor. It is never any worse than the two monitor setup and sometimes you can do something more. For example VS Code is not very good at using two monitors, but with this you can just maximize and then use the split editor function to have two or three things side by side. Is it worth the money? Depends on your budget I suppose. It is nicer. It is expensive. It wont make you 50% more productive. I love it.
100% I don't understand why people prefer 2 4ks I have been told this so many times but it makes no sense other than from a cost standpoint (which is fine if cost is priority).
After working for years with 2 and 3 screens of 24 to 30 inch and damaging my health in the process (eyes strain, neck issues, head ackes, etc) I did some research and ended up for the best solution: 27" 2k rez and I am using virtual desktops to switch in between IDE, Browser, communication. On top of it I switched to Linux as main OS for the past 3 years.
Unless you work with something like Unreal Engine or suepr professional Sound and Video editing, having ultra wide screen is pointless : D
Super ultrawides only have a couple uses from what I can tell:
- niche productivity where having everything from multiple screens on one is superior to having the multiple screens in the first place (think something like NASA having 2-3 monitors per station instead of like 7 or 8, lol)
- bragging rights in the gaming sphere, lol
- more immersive gaming in simulation games
for best productivity, I feel that the standard ultrawides (21:9/21:10) would be the better option. It balances screen size with the work, and you can have curved or flat based on preference. If needed, you can always have 2 of them, but you're likely better off with a 21:9 + 16:9 combo if you need extra space outside of the ultrawide.
I'm currently running dual 16:9 monitors, but have found that I need a bigger one to improve things, and looking at how much space everything takes up currently, I believe the basic ultrawides would be the best option, and I'm aware of how valuable the standard widescreens are that I would like to keep them, even after upgrading to an ultrawide.
The best ultrawides are the same as having 2 monitors with no seam in the middle. I don't know why anyone would benefits from having monitor bezel right in the middle where they are sitting. To solve this with seperate monitors you actually need 3 of them.
@@JFlywheel issue is practicality. Don't get me wrong, the super wides are amazing in that you could have a seamless experience, but consider what happens when you're multitasking.
I can pop up an app in full screen on monitor 1, and another app or two in some combo on monitor 2.
Run that same full screen app on the super wide, and suddenly there's no way to properly multitask.
And, sure, you might think there's not really a need for that most times, but that's dependent on your productivity.
Again, the super wides are absolutely incredible for something like gaming. But I've got an option in my pc to link both monitors together to create a unified desktop, and if i'm focused on 1 half, and need something from the other half in regards to the taskbar, that's a hell of a distance to travel. Though, Win11 sorta fixes that via a centered dock-like task bar.
Again, for more space, a standard ultrawide will be fine for most people, and the side monitor wouldn't be an issue, cause more than likely the ultrawide would be their main monitor in the first place. Here the bezels wouldn't obstruct your view, but simply break everything down into more manageable sections.
Of course, if you'd prefer such a huge area with a seamless view, absolutely go for a super wide. But I think for most people, it would actually be impractical just due to the crazy distance to cover. Even though you'd still have that issue with 2 monitors, I think on a certain level, it's not readily noticed as being such a big deal, *until* you unify the desktop, as you're not consciously aware of the size until then.
@@RyuuTenno You can run an ultrawide exactly the same as having 2 or even 3 monitors. Just plug 2-3 seperate cables into it instead of 1, then put the monitor in PBP mode with 2 or even 3 monitors. It would work exactly the same as having 2-3 seperate monitors as you can split the display per connection (or even display 2-3 different computers at once), only difference is that there would be no bezels in the way between each section of the screen. You actually have less distance to cover than having 2 4k monitors next to each other, due to the 1000r curve and no bezel, and each section of the screen can have it's own taskbar as the computer would treat them as seperate displays in this configuration (I don't recommend running this way because then you lose the option to use the ENTIRE screen in full screen mode for one app, but you can certainly do it and it's no worse than having seperate displays). So there is litteraly no way that having 2 4k monitors is better than having one ultrawide with the same size and resolution.
I am using 3 x FHD (1080) and getting good service. Sits at a nice visual distance with most of the screen in view. Not too wide for the neck with a swivel chair to help. Center for for IDE and sides for utilities and documents, or an IDE on each side with docs in the middle when coding in 2 languages side by side. Using both sides monitors as primary for coding doesn't need me to pivot my head too much.
Thanks for the review.
I have the same monitor and use it for programming and gaming. Yes I do have to move my head quite a bit, but otherwise, I don't regret getting it. I set everything up with power toys and I found it to be a great way to have multiple windows open and not constantly have to shuffle them to different desktops.
My only gripe is that no one else at work has one so presentations are a bit difficult.
As an artis i believe this monitor is for me.... I need plenty of pace for my windows in Adobe Animate, blender, Affinty Designer , Photoshop and Specially in Davinci Resolve since I use alot of overlay videos and transitions so i need to see more of my time line.
Damn bro I hate this bots in the comments. Also I have ultra wide monitor and after a few days I played / coded on smaller monitor and I didnt saw any diffrence.
For programming, buy a 43" 4K monitor for about $500. The screen size is large enough so you can actually use the resolution without scaling stuff up. If you need even more screen, buy a second 43" 4K monitor. If you need more than 2160 pixels vertically, use a VESA wall mount to put the screen in portrait mode. You will still shell out less money than for the special monitors, be it the one in this video or the tiny Benq programming monitor. For gaming you might need a more expensive monitor, but for programming I think most people would be happy with a plain 43" 4K monitor.
I agree completely, I use a 43" 4k monitor and am loving it, and I am now considering getting a 2nd one...
I use a 49 inch curved 4k TV and a vertical 32 in monitor to the left. I keep the laptop open and use that screen space under the TV. It works well and allows me to keep chatgpt, vscode, a browser, winscp, and MySQL workbench or cmd open all at the same time.
So I think my experience with an ultra-wide as a dev is very different on macOS. In windows it's pretty common to maximize windows to full screen or side-by-side them. But on macOS floating windows makes more sense (at least to me). I have a 1440p ultra wide and I just treat it as a giant wall and have 2-3 editors opened in different parts of the screen, a terminal in the corner, TH-cam in a another corner -- it's just space for days. But if you prefer maximizing stuff I would think having multiple 4:3 aspect ratio monitors would make the most sense.
Use FancyZones then to split the usable central space optimally, and leave the extra space out wide for things like the music player, task manager graphs/system temps, or whatever. That's my approach at least
I bought a 40" monitor ultrawide monitor from DELL and honestly I miss my old dual setup. Too bad that the current industry is pushing 16:9 ratio. 16:10 or 3:2 is way better for dual setup as we get more height.
As far as I know, this monitor is two 27" 1440p monitors side by side so buying two monitors of that soec wont give you more real estate. For coding I would recommend something with the added height that you get in 16x10 monitor for instance. The vertical space is invaluable. My current setup is a LG 38" 3840 x 1600 ultrawide (not super ultrawide) which is essentially a 16x10 ultrawide and sits centered in front of me. It holds my IDE with a couple of tabs. Off to the side is a 16x10 24" 1080p monitor that holds my browser for debugging, reference materials, or acts as my screen share / presentation monitor as it matches most other people's monitor (or notebook screen) much better. I couldn't imagine going back to even a dual 16x9 setup.
I don't program for a living but I spend a lot of time going through scripts, documents, text files and the like. I got myself a 2560 x 2880p monitor and am amazed there are only a couple of them available and how little press they get. The only 'issue' I have with it is I've had to do some funky things with my monitor setup to accommodate games that only launch on primary monitor (first world problem) but now that I own one in my multi monitor setup I wouldn't want to go back to 2 16:9 monitors.
I have a samsung odyssey NEO G9 and I don't regret it at all. I love my ultrawide monitor and I find it quite practical.
Same here!
would you say samsung neo g9 is better than this monitor? i am looking into getting a g9 neo but not sure
I haven't used the set up in a while now, but I have run two 27" side by side, and actually have the gear to do three of them, side by side. An insane setup was at the ISP I worked at several years ago : Three video cards and eight monitors, all on one machine. It was so loud though, we rack mounted the computer, and ran all the cabling through the wall into the next room.
the problem with multiple monitors are the bezels - especially with two monitor configurations. It means that you centre one screen and chuck the other screen off the side meaning anything at the far far side is basically wasted pixels.
Also, when you watch movies in full screen on an ultrawide monitor and put on your dalby surround sound headphones life is pretty good.
@@baileysmooth I have a large screen TV for watching movies. And my dual monitor setup was centered with my keyboard. But you are correct about bezels, not worth trying to center an application across both screens. It was much easier to have a browser on one screen, while coding the page on the other screen. I was doing a lot of automation for an ISP at the time.
The top of the monitor should be at eye level, otherwise neck ache is going to be a problem if you're coding all day, day after day.
For development, you need 2160 vertical. Also 1000R or 800R curvature is better for your neck.
34", 21:9 and I definitely do NOT regret it. I have 2 of them.
One with 1440p for my private PC and the older one (9 years) with 2560x1080 for my workspace for programming. For me it's the perfect size.
I thought about getting the ultra ultra widescreens (32:9), but 34" in 21:9 is wide enough.
I tried an ultrawide and I didn't even last a full year. Spending a lot of time on it per day, it fatigued my eyes, even gave me a headache, simply because how much I was looking back and forth and doing it so far to each side.
When I have a monitor and my field of vision is much narrower, it is so much easier to work on it for a full day.
I've never used a monitor larger than 27", and when I've used multiple monitors, one was a laptop. If I were to get an ultra-wide, and assuming my computer could handle it, I imagine I would put my task at hand in the center, using 1/3 to 1/2 of the screen area. Then I would put research or reference materials on the left, and communications (email, etc.) on the right. For video editing, I'd put the viewer on the left, but I'd also try the editor on the left and viewer in the center.
I'd also put the monitor on a standing height table, or a sit/stand workstation, so that I could face what I'm reading (rather than turning my neck).
I've always hesitated on the ultra-wide monitors, even though I came close to buying a 49 inch. For the custom spreadsheets and reports I build for my customers, I always worry about compatibility, since I figure they're probably using HD monitors. I have 2 27" Asus HD monitors in landscape side by side, and a 3rd one in portrait right next to them, and I'm pretty happy with that arrangement. I'm not really a gamer, so the higher-end graphics aren't that important. If you work a lot with video, this ultra-wide would probably be great.
38" 3840x1600 (12:5) is the true king of UW displays.
Or 40 5120 x 2160 :P
@@mkunikow Agree, had every other ultrawide before. This one i stay on.
I like my 7680 x 2160 57" display. To me this is king for now.
So true
I have Dell UltraSharp 40 U4021QW WUHD 5120 x 2160 for coding. There is also newer version U4025QW.
Don't use stand -> use monitor arm :)
I’ve found it really great too. The 5k2k monitor are the sweet spot, but would love to try at 5k3k monitor for more vertical height. I also have a 27” 4k monitor at each end as well.
I'm thinking to buy a super ultrawide monitor as well. Although not a gaming one, as you already said, the gaming aesthetics these days is just not my style.
Also I'm not sure that I like the curve. I would prefer a flat version and 240FPS is not a big deal I think. Anything above 120Hz I think it's too much. I also don't play games.
The usage I intent to do and the primary reason why I "need" a super-ultrawide monitor I for development as well.
I'm a front end developer and I feel that space is always in need.
One part of the screen must be the page I'm working on, another part is the developer tools, another part for code and another part for figma to take reference for the design and if it's not figma then slack or some documentation page.The least amount of space I need for the website is 1366px wide and the rest of the space can be divided equally between other apps.
So yeah, space is not enough. For the moment I utilize desktop spaces as much as I can but I find pretty annoying the animation.
Right now my setup is the LG UltraFine you propose just the bigger 31.5" version and my 13" MacBook monitor.
One big con with LG UltraFine is that it's at 60Hz and there is noticable light bleed on the corners.
I wouldn't think to buy another one to have a dual setup because I'm not quite pleased with it and I hate having bezels even if they're slim.
Coming from a pretty good Dell monitor my trust for LG took a toll with my purchase.
We need wider.
I use the same kind of monitor for coding and gaming on Ubuntu and it is amazing. I use a tiling manager and usually split 1/3 browser and 2/3 neovim with 3 splits then other desktops with chat, doc, etc. I use a arm instead of a stand to save place and it is amazing.
Fully agreed.. I have 2 49" ultrawides. (one gaming one graphics). And i'm ready to sell both and replace them wiht somethign more square. Gaming wise, to many issues, cameras in some games are too close and can't zoom out. Some "AAA" titles like "Starfiled" (if we call that AAA) didn't even support it at release (and for a few months)...
Do not agree that getting two 27" gives yo more screen. a 49" is esentially dual 27". so unless you go for 32 duals' then sure, but not dual 27s.
As for snapping.. with windows 11 i had most of the "power toys" build right in so allows me to set up that middle wide and two smaller on the sides.. for general work (graphics/text) they are ok ish.
Still gona either pass them to my kids and get something of the mroe "square" veriety ..
all you need for programming is just one sideways (vertical) monitor. can be 60hz, can be 4:3, still works perfectly for coding
I work on a 38" 3840 x 1600 screen with a 32" 4k as my second screen. 1440 is just too short IMO and so I went with the screen I have. I feel it is the perfect screen for side by side and I have hardly any issues with compatibility. I really just don't get the ultra wide 1440 thing.
This might not apply to everyone, but with two monitors I always have one directly in front and one to the side - typically the right hand side. Whereas with an ultrawide I have it centered. So the visual experience of two monitors vs ultrawide is very different in my case. I do prefer the dual monitor set up better for programming and day to day productivity. I even find I prefer it when drawing diagrams (technical architecture, not pictures or art).
I have a non-curved 44" super ultrawide and I mainly use it for Picture-by-Picture with my XBOX Series X.
When I do use the full width for just my computer, I make sure to split everything into two distinct workloads. Usually the browser on the right and VSCode on the left.
What I dislike most here is the actual resolution - I have a 40" 5120x2160 with 140 ppi. Going down to 100 ppi or even less is an absolute no-go for me. Even my previous 38" 3840x1600 was too blurry for my taste.
I would consider a 57" or 49" if they were 7680x2160. And 32:9 usually means the screen is not high enough. 49" 21:9? That sounds more like it.
Regarding PiP/PbP, I find it more productive to connect to my work laptop via NoMachine where I can just move the window wherever I want in whatever size I want.
Got a super ultra wide (at a discount for 699€) and I don't regret my purchase
The monitor is Lenovo Legion R45w-30 btw
For me a 38" 3840x1600 (24:10) monitor is the best 1 monitor setup for sw development, gaming and internet.
It is, less or more, like 2x 5:4 monitors without a basel in the middle.
I used to have 2x 5:4 in the past, but also 2x 16:9 recently.
2x 16:9 is too wide and it is unconfortable for working on, you have to move your head too much.
So when I had to upgrade I opted for 1x 38" 3840x1600 (24:10) monitor and it is perfect.
Today I would choose an 5120x2160, but at the time it was not in production yet.
They suck for programming but excel for multitasking. I paired my G9 with a BenQ made for programming. All coding takes place on the BenQ and everything else goes on the G9. Can’t beat that.
I bought 48'' 4K Oled TV and large desk, and set comfortable scale. Theoretically it breaks the rules of ergonomics, and yet I have never had a better time programming. I don't need to focus so much to read anymore. Still enough space for multiple windows and my eyes thank me everyday as I'm sitting further away from the screen and I see the text well. After 8 hours I don't feel so tired which means it is much better than with smaller 4k monitors I had.
Feel like 34-42 is the sweet spot for UW productivity. Wish there were more in the market for this non gaming related. That being said… ditching mine as well for 2 monitors for simplicity. Miss the ability to have a vertical monitor at times being a FE dev 😅
Great review. I find if you put too much stuff on the screen(s) it starts fighting for your attention, even if it’s on the side. I find myself turning off extra monitors to be able to focus on what’s in front of me. However, I usually have 2 windows side by side. There might be too much for me.
I have had 34" at work. Something like 8 months. And i love it. I also bought new 34" monitor for home too..
I think its doing better the 2-half setup than 49" inch because side's are not so far off.
I use mostly 2-half or 1/3 and 2/3 setup. Only sometimes one bigger two smaller. The smaller ones are really small with 34"....
(both are 34" 4k)
My main concern is that at this size 1440p too low for crystal clear text. I am thinking about getting monitor that has resolution 5120x2160 which would be better at text sharpness.
I have an Alienware wide screen oled 165hz, I love it for running both ClaudeDev and Cursor with a 2nd 27 inch HP Omen. I love my setup.
First! Actually interested in this video. Good work!
AMAZING THUMBNAIL! 😉
Had some great feedback from certain people….
I switched from multiple monitors to an ultra wide. I like to look straight on. But now I miss vertical space. I don't need more horizontal, I want a 40", 5k 16x9 monitor.
I worked at a company that gave all the developers an ulta-wide monitor. The code took a hit because some developers decided could now have ultra long lines of code. The readability of such code is terrible.
I don't know why people be spending so much money. I just bought a Samsung viewfinity s5 34 inch flat panel for 199$
I get your point, but i also understand, why some people dont want a VA Panel for example, which are more affordable (like the Samsung viewfinity s5). If you work from home many hours a day VA panels are worse for your eye health and the color accuracy is also not as good, just to name a few examples. If youve got the spare money, an IPS Panel is better in almost all circumstances, but also costs quite a bit more.
...but i totally get your point, a monitor for freaking 1.500$+ is just insane 😄
Good for you bro. You want a pat on the back?
VA is trash ?
That's their money they get what they want guy. If you can't afford it or just cheap that's okay no one will judge you unless you pocket watching on here
@@jdsd_ IPS is the same price as VA. But the selection of VA is mostly curved and IPS is mostly flat.
I'm very happy with my 34" IPS monitor, it's not super ultrawide. Adding another 27' monitor will just give you neck pain.. Super Ultrawide great for RTS gaming and streamers. If you scale too much you simply converting it to normal ultrawide.. Also thunderbolt 4 supports up to 8k@60hz
Using the laptop monitor for previewing websites and managing chat.
Using ultrawide monitor with two split screens for coding and browsing.
I have one 34" IPS with high refresh rate and another 34" VA with type C upstream so I can switch between Mac and Win computers. Also use the Mac small screen for Slack. Still missing a bit of real estate though for FE development.
At work, we have 2 1080p monitors, and it works OK.
At home, until recently, I had an ultra wide LG with a resolution of 2560x1080. It was curved, and I used it for both work and gaming. Enjoyed doing both on it.
But it died...
Now I have a 2560x1440 monitor, not curved, and I appreciate the vertical real estate I gained. I miss the ultrawide ratio for gaming, but at least, not more black bars when watching YT videos in fullscreen.
I don't understand how you can use a regular monitor if you are a programmer or use only one monitor, so I don't understand the author's problems. I'm not a gamer or a designer and I'm primarily a coder and it's great to be able to set up multiple testing and editing environments on one monitor. my productivity has literally doubled with the purchase of a new monitor at my workplace.
I bought the worlds first super ultrawife chg90 back in 2018. I still have it and it still works great.
Idk about you but I have the center for my editor and then surround it with two browsers or some other program. Hyperland is working beautifully with it. And also tmux for tiling terminal panes. Never had a problem. Also if your goal is to use the mouse as little as possible, Neovim, tmux with a tiling WM is the best thing you could ever use.
I had a Dell 34 inch ultra-monitor before. As a Developer myself.. I had to get rid of it and get a regular 32 inch 4k monitor as my primary display. I will get another 27 inch to use as vertical display.
I have the 45" LG Ultragear, and I don't find that I need to turn my head much with it. I also have it a bit further away than what people normally would have since my desk is curved. Also, I got another 27" flat ultra gear as a secondary vertical monitor because gaming with one monitor sucks lol. During work hours it just becomes either a slack or extra console display
What i did not like about the monitor is when it subtly increases brightness when you move mouse over to another part of the screen.
Programmer, system designer, dev ops and team lead here and I'm using five monitors and a good window manager with tiled workspaces (xmonad). If you have work where you need to do a ton of context switching it really helps giving your different programs their own monitor: chat on the left, logs / monitoring on the top right and the remaining three monitors are for productivity: browsers, multiple webstorm instances, calls, etc. Instead of having to foreground a window or remembering where it is, you just look. Very rarely would a window I am looking for not already be visible (ie on a hidden workspace). No idea how I'd ever go back to having fewer monitors 🤷♂️
5 monitors in 2 rows! How's your neck doing? 🤔
@@shams_shimulhaha fair question! Xmonad allows swapping of monitor content via shortcut. So if I need to look at any monitor other than my main for long I just switch the content there
Easy - virtual desktops and shortcut keys. Working on a single screen is a joy if you spend the time to set it up.
@@0w784gIt's a screen size problem. Not a lot of 10k tall, curved monitors exist. I guess two curved monitors on top of each other might work. Would still be smaller than my current setup. And pretty pricey in comparison. Tldr; absolutely agreed! Technology just isn't there yet for me
Can you imagine a world where screen aspects ratio will be 1:√2... What a perfect world, countless hours of ui disgn saved, the same layout optimis to the pixel.
I've had the lg ultragear 38" for several years now. It's been fantastic. Replaced 2 monitors.
Had many monitors but wqhd 38" is a great size and resolution, 49 too large for me.
The best ultra wide for programming is the Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 with dual 4K screens...can act as one complete monitor for gaming in ultra wide or two independent 4K monitors for multi monitor setup
To me, 21:9 + 16:9 monitor is the perfect middle ground.
Another setup i've grown to like a lot recently has been 2x 21:9, stacked HOWEVER - your secondary is actually below, at an angle - almost like a drawing tablet
For anyone interested in another opinion on super ultrawides: Had a 57” samsung g9 odyssey neo for 2-3 months now and I love the thing. Similarly priced as the one here. Similarly, I would never go back to anything under 120hz. But I find the thing is amazing for productivity. It’s genuinely like 3 displays in one. What made me decide against a dual monitor setup was that I’d want the monitors to be symmetrically setup-which would mean putting the gap between them exactly in the center of everything I was doing. Only small downside is that, because of the resolution, it’s hard to find a gpu AND CABLE that support 8k @ 120 or 240hz. You *can* use two hdmi ports (setting it up like 2 separate displays) but I had some issues with that, like one side being @ 60hz (causing screen tearing). I’d do it again in a heartbeat though (except for the price bc ouch)
Merci pour cette vidéo ! Je n'avais jamais compris pourquoi le pair programming était utilisé en entreprise. Mais ça fait complètement sens !
I have a triple 27" monitor setup. I want to upgrade at least the center monitor as they are all just 75Hz IPS panels. I'm wondering if I might benefit more from a super ultrawide--the triple monitor setup is really ridiculously wide, and less immersive for gaming because of the bezels between monitors
Time ago I had 3 cheap curved Samsung 24 inches, and I placed them like ultra wide, one in the middle the other two aside, then I realized how bad is for our neck to be still looking at one of the side screens, it is
painful!! Pretty often I changed my code to the central screen to work for little longer, the side screens were just for quick glances. By those days ultrawide monitors were a trend but I never looked forward to get one.
One day I placed them stacked, only 2 though but one upon the other and it was really good for productivity!! 2 monitors 24 inches stacked was a little too big but I made for 1 year working with them and my productivity increased much more.
Now I have a LG dual Up it is quite good, is equivalent to two 2K 21 inches stacked and without bessels in the middle, not that cheap and only 60hz but no other brand has made that kind of format :/.
Still I have only that dualUp and one smaller 16inches monitor on the side plus the laptop screen 4 screens total. 1 for productivity and the other 2 smaller in the side for quick glances, video calls or screen sharing!!!
I personally regret having ultrawides. The better format is 16:10 or 3:2 for especially coding. 21:9 works fine for excel and spreadsheet like work, but not for anything else.
And what is the best SMALL screen you would recommend for programming?
GameBoy Color.
I have a ultra wide at work and definitely do not prefer it. My biggest issue is that it is just to short.
At home I got 2 monitors one vertical and one horizontal and that works much better for my use.
5:23 That's a bad contrast for $1600. At one point, I saw a $1000 Samsung super ultrawide with mini LED or even OLED. Although OLED burns in too fast with programming.
I just bought 3 24in MSI monitors and a triple monitor stand for 300 bucks and I couldn't be happier with it.
I'm on a budget but honestly I can't see the pixels and I only use the setup for coding so I don't see why anyone would spend significantly more unless they had cash to burn.
My perfect setup is 3 27inch monitors side by side. I never trusted the software virtual monitor thing, especially since I use Linux a lot and never know how good the support will be for that.
We bought them for entire office and everybody likes them (800€ per monitor). Its great when you can try it out if it suita your workflow.
I had a super ultrawide but changed to two standard ones. I focus on one and have the other as side info, chats etc. This can be achieved with a super ultrawide but for me it was to seamless. I noticed that i needed the space and how it is placed on the side to enhance focus. Perhaps strange but that worked best for me.