As much as I love LGBT rep and cannon relationships, scenes like this are just as important. The characters talked about their feelings in a healthy way and were honest and open. Badyah, while not returning Norma's feelings, was assuring and kind and didn't put her down for feeling the way she did. And Norma, while still heart broken, respected her feelings and the fact she's not really into girls. And the two go on to have a strong friendship. And it's good.
It's awesome that it was handled in both mature and heartfelt way, because I know a lot of people worry about this exact situation of "what if they don't like me because they're straight?" And other people worry "what if they like me and don't know I'm straight?" I've never seen this before in animation unless someone just kisses their crush out of the blue and it's suddenly super uncomfortable, so this was just a really nice experience even though Norma was rejected.
Exept that badyah wanted to things to be normal straight away while norma needed some time to process her first heartbreak/rejection, we can fault badyah for that
Exactly. It's nice that this show was able to exemplify that not every gay crush may be reciprocated. Occasionally, it would feel a little too convenient that the love interest just so happened to be gay as well, personally. To be clear, it’s not that much of an issue, but a clash in sexualities definitely adds some realism.
As someone who just went through something really similar to this with telling my best friend I had a crush on him, and getting rejected but still being friends. This scene kinda hurts to watch. I feel really bad for her.
I’m sad for Norma but I’m kinda glad this happened. As much as I love lgbtq rep in shows, not all characters have to be lgbtq+ and date each other. There needs to be rejection. And it was so relatable to me. Especially how Norma reacted. I’m glad there was a bit of realism added instead of it feeling like the Disney movie cliche “you like me?? I like you too! Let’s date each other!” It teaches kids that their crush isn’t always gonna like them back. These kind of scenes (especially in cartoons) are very rare and it’s so pleasing to see.
Norma is me when I confessed to my best friend when I was grade 11, she's straight also and I knew I was gonna get rejected because she had a big crush on a guy. Even though I knew she was gonna reject me, it still hurts and I thought she needed to hear about my feelings or it's just gonna mess with my head. We're still close best friends now, but it feels awkward whenever that day is mentioned. Still hoping to find a new love someday, now that I know I'm pansexual.
@@ohhhcrud.. That is the most simplest yet most accurate way someone has described it! I kept getting confused because people kept explaining it wrong to me
I’m so glad they didn’t make either person the ‘bad guy’ in this scene. Anybody who’s had to reject someone knows just how guilty you feel afterwards, but I really feel like this could help kids in the future understand that it’s nobody’s fault. You can not be attracted to someone and that’s ok
same, and i'm glad they didn't try to add in drama or them not being friends anymore, they're both totally cool about it and it's a sweet scene,,even if a little bittersweet
If I had a nickel for every time I’ve watched a Netflix Original cartoon where a character confessed their feelings to another person on a Ferris wheel but the other character said they don’t swing their way, I would have 2 nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it’s happened twice
I immediately thought the exact same thing it had to be intentional. It's even framed the exact same way, Kipo got a lot of praise and deservedly so for not being afraid to actually say the word gay. And I like that this show wasn't afraid to have the character just say they were straight, I think we're past the point where saying who you're attracted to is such an adult concept that they're scared to even whisper it in a family cartoon
@@noremac7216 I did like how they didn’t taboo the word gay (my jaw dropped when he said it, and if that’s not a sign that people usually act like it’s a swear or slur, I don’t know what is.) I didn’t really like how they treated Troy, however, as it felt like his only purpose was to be a love interest and literally nothing else. But besides that, I’d say Benson is pretty good representation
I like that people are giving this kind representation, I like how Badyah was really okay with Norma liking her and that she didn't feel any digust to it while handling it in a healthy way which also expresses her emotions. If she's not into girls then that's fine, I'm glad that she still tries to get a long with Norma
I love how this show isn’t making the characters lives perfect, because this happens in real life all the time. A lot of times you like someone, when they don’t, and I think that’s a really important message in the show.
I kinda like how they kept them as friends. I never saw them as anything more, and this honestly feels more realistic. I've never really seen a show where a gay character gets rejected by a straight character.
Rejection scenes are important in tv. Demonstrating a healthy way of taking it is so underdone, and it usually has the rejected character lash out or make it everyone else’s issue. I’m glad while still showcasing the fact that she’s upset, she accepts it and is ok with it.
I haven't read any of the graphic novels, so maybe I'm way off here... but when Badyah goes "does it count if I'm not thinking about it?" it's possible she's actually aromantic and/or asexual, in which those feelings don't occur to her (at least not often.) She's just confusing it for straight due to allo/amatonormativity.
@@laobok Allo refers to alloromantic/allosexual, which is simply anyone who feels attraction regularly (the opposite of being ace/aro.) Amatonormativity (a mouthful, I know) refers to the societal expectation that you MUST desire/be in a relationship to lead a happy and fulfilling life, which is not only untrue in general but misleads people into forcing themselves into unhealthy relationships due to pressure. This effects everyone, but it's an especially big problem for aroace folk because they don't really feel attraction in the first place and causes them to feel guilty or "wrong" (a lot already do because so many people, including those IN the LGBT community, shun them so much already.) And no, nobody HAS to have a label, but labels can help people figure out who they are and bring them more self-confidence. I mean, Norma is using the label "bi" because it feels right and coming out as such to her close ones has helped her tremendously. Badyah doesn't necessarily have to be aroace, she could just be straight, but it would be nice to see since there's so little representation for those identities.
I cried every time I watched this scene. Because this happened to me i asked my classmate(guy) to date him but he said his taken but i gladly accepted that he said no. The fact that Badyah said some nice stuff to Norma is the same thing responding nice stuff to me saying "thank you because you appreciate me to the point i was your motivation" even though we barely know each other this was the most nicest thing happened to me even though he said "no"(wont go out with me)
Okay but can we talk about Badyah not being sure if she’s straight or lgbtq?? As someone who’s still questioning their sexuality (identify as biromantic currently) I FEEL SEEN!!!
I feel like I was the one being rejected. I feel terrible! I don't remember the last time I connected so hard to a character, I feel everything Norma feels. When is season 3 at!?
Idk why I got so emotional in this scene although something I realized is that you can't always except ships to be canon especially with representation most of the time it's canon but some are just not.
I noticed this before but badyah is strangely clingy towards norma (aways wanting to hang out with norma, doing things norma wants to do (solve a mystery, do a podcast about demons even though she’s not interested in demons) and she even bought norma a new pair of shoes once) at first I thought it was because badyah also had a crush on norma but since that’s not the case I wonder if badyah simply doesn’t have any girl friend aside from norma, I wish they explore more about her outside the park
Best friends are a thing and I think people forget that. Not everyone has a person they connect to on a very deep but unromantic way but a lot of us do. Badyah may not be able to be attracted to Norma the way Norma would like her to be but it's very clear that she loves Norma with all her heart
@@noremac7216 2) as far as I know not even best friends buy shoes for the other, but desperate people do that 3) the problem is badya never asked to do anything she wants to do, its always what Norma wants to do
@@lipepsene Barney and Norma may be a dynamic duo but Bahdya is def Norma's best friend imo. And yeah some friends are that close that they buy each other really specific and personalized presents
I really wish my Younger sister accepted her rejection from her best frienf as gracefully as Norma did. She had a VERY hard time accepting the fact that her lifelong friend just wasn't into girls.
I've been in this situation before and all I know is the affection that I felt for a crush turned into loyalty to a friend afterwards.. It was hard but I've been lucky enough to have understanding people in my little group. One of my crushes had a baby recently, and I couldn't be prouder of her living her best life.
Something I like about this is that it mirrors a scene from kipo and the age of Wonder beasts so much it has to be intentional. This is literally an inverse of the scene where Kipo confesses to Benson, and just like I really praised that show for having Benson just come out and say he was gay I really appreciate it this one inverting the scenario. Not everything's a fairy tale Romance, and people sexualities not lining up happens both ways. I think we all know that Bahdya loves Norma with all her heart, she just can't love her the way Norma wishes she could
(At the cartoon cafe) Kipo:(to Norma)Let me guess confess to your crush on a Ferris wheel but didn’t like you back because of there sexuality? Norma:Yeah. Kipo:It happens.
Aw poor Norma. Ain't that just the way of life. You come out gay to your friend and say you have a crush on them but then they say their straight. I hope Norma finds love
@@roo1014 I really hope that doesn’t happen. If the two became a couple I feel like that would ruin Norma‘s entire arc this season and it would be infuriating
this scene just makes me wanna cry, both bc it's a sweet scene but also i wanted to see these two get together so bad lmao but i'm still glad it happened, because it feels like every lgbt character's love life manages to be easy, where their crush is also lgbt and likes them too, and it's sweet that they can be happy most of the time but irl it's not so easy, it's nice to see something like this bc it literally never happens, and this show wrote it so well
I know people are disappointed that they're not together ,but honestly... I believe this is better option. Recently, there are more and more lgbt people representations in cartoons, which is very important. However, showing these types of scenes is also important to show that such situations can also happen. And also this scene shows just how good they are to themselves, that they don't want to lie to themselves. Badyah wants to be honest with Norma, even if it might hurt and Norma want to respect her crush feelings
@@user-th5ze4ph1v So you're judging a whole series just because it has a healthy LGBTQ representation? I understand not supporting it because of your religion, but this really isn't a bad show.
I've only started watching "Kipo and The Age of Wonderbeasts", but this scene reminds me so much of the scene from Kipo where she tells Benson that she likes him but he says that he's gay, and they handle it in a great way and they're still friends.
This is incredible and important. I know what it’s like admitting my feelings to someone who I know is straight and getting unsurprisingly rejected as a result. Whether it’s same sex or not, rejections because of a difference in desires of a partner that are healthy is very good to show. That guy I asked out and I are good friends to this day and plan on taking hiking trips together once his knee get better. Things will get better always. If not, find a way around it.
This is exactly almost one for one happened to me. I asked out this boy when I thought I saw signs. He told me he was straight but we’re still cool as friends, I tried to avoid him almost exactly like Nora(we aren’t like in a friend group but we see each other around a lot). After watching this episode I’m not going to let being heartbroken effect me as hard as it did. Ive had my eyes on him for a very long time it hurts but I’m still young just like Nora’s Mom says two episodes later.
Other than having this is good to show a healthy renection. I think having this in the show is good for kids to learn that all confessions mostly dont end in a happy ending.
modeling this kind of healthy discourse is important. I remember my 1st crush cut contact with me when they found out. There wasn't this idea you could just be honest and stay friends. back then (not that long ago) someone coming out as gay was a threat met with hostility & isolation, as if it were a disease that could be caught. That kids get the message it's okay to interact with queer people, poliety reject advances, and stay friends is so important. Queer people are not monsters that will attack you.
as much as lgbtq+ characters are important, so are these scenes. Love dosen’t always have an happy ending. I also enjoyed the fact that they didn’t make anyone the villan here and i hope that Norma in later season will finally find her true love :)
I think this is a really, REALLY important scene. While a straight guy, I like when LGBTQ+ rep is done right, but usually I get the feeling that it's not made in an organic way. As if you come out as LGBT, obviously the person you like will also be and you two will be a couple right? But as it happens to straight people (most of the time actually), not everyone is going to correspond to your feelings
cartoon charchter “Norma” expresses her crush on fellow cartoon chachter “Badyah” who does not return those feelings because “If I dont think about in straight”
To the people in the comments, gay muslims exist! Just because you're Muslim doesn't mean you take everything the Quran says to the letter, and no one interpretation is correct. Your religion does not excuse intolerance.
Ace Muslim here, and yeah there's a lot of LGBTQ+ Muslims out there. I love representation of hijabi's in media, and especially how they handled it here. Rejection hurts no matter what but it might be good that it happens, because then you have the chance for a different opportunity. If not, your worth isn't determined by rejection ✨️
@@HackiePuffs true, but as of now she does identify as straight. Whether thst changes or not is entirely up to her. (That is to say, up to how the writers write her arc)
@@katt-kek identity transcends religion. If someone is LGBT, they're LGBT regardless of what religion they are. Religion is a choice, LGBT identity isn't.
As someone who is muslim, this scene really hit like a brick and probably for so many others. I love how they did this to show that muslims can't partake in such things, but the fact that Norma is respectful about it, but seeing her sad is one of another thing, I too, have experienced something like this. Excellent job for Netflix by showing different perspectives on people. 😭
"cant partake in such things"? you do know muslims can be queer too right? im literally one of them, and apparently theyre going to explore this more if dead end gets a 3rd season so i hope that happens.
I really hope Badya doesn't fall for Norma later in the series. Because that would mess with Norma's arc with season 2, accepting rejection. I'm okay with her getting together with any other girl or boy, just not Badya. Or Zagan. She's 1600 years old. That would be weird.
Alright, but pretty sure I'm straight, but I don't think about it that much is exactly the thing I used to say before I realized I was asexual and aromantic.
If I had a nickel for every time I’ve seen a cartoon with a scene containing a character within a lgbtq+ category on a Ferris wheel I’d have two nickels
@@rosykindbunny1313 probably because Zagan tried to kill them in season one XD I do like how Norma is starting to side with them tho. It'll be interesting to see what happens.
@@torazely I also just... don't like Zagan. She kinda came out of nowhere, and I was really looking forward to Pauline being the villain (and yes, I know it was technically Temeluchus who upstaged Pauline). But I totally agree, I'm so interested in seeing how their new alliance goes!
exept there aint no way in hell badyah’s straight heres to quote the creator of the show on an interview and his twitter “I dont wanna talk about badyah without giving stuff away” “her feelings for norma are on the way” “when I created the show I wanted there to multiple coming out scenes” “the storyline is based off what I went threw when coming out, my version has a happy ending and this one does too” Now what I have deciphered from this is badyahs parents probably werent too happy at the start because their muslim and some muslims consider it haram (not all)
@@twist_ending7545 you guys haven't read the source material and it shows. Edit: IMSOSORRY i thought you were replying to the person with the creators quotes, not the starting comment- I agree tho, they worded that terribly,
Ok...maybe some people will hate me, but I prefer that Badyah is straight...Not in terms of discrimination, just in terms of narrative. You will love people that just isnt the same line as you, but thats ok.
its not haram to be queer😐 im a queer muslim myself (aroace sapphic). we exist, deal with it. apparently badyahs orientation is going to be explored further if theres a 3rd season, and i sincerely hope that happens.
@@puppycatsbee It haram to be gay or homosexuality in Islam it in The Quran amd of course you exist. We all have the feelings toward something Allah curse but we need to fight those feeling. That the whole point being a muslim. To fight human nature of attraction of what we want not what the Allah want
@@SoughtApple If your god didn't want you to be lgbtq that bad he wouldn't have created lgbtq muslims at all. But he did. because he should love anyone for who they are, and if he doesn't- you should find a new god.
@@Angel-i1e Bruh, Christianity, Judaism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholicism. They all forbid that too. And this world is a test. Do what's good and don't do what He informed us what's bad.
![[Dead End: Paranormal Park] Norma tells her Mom she's Bi](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/TeiGiCCD9e0/mqdefault.jpg)
As much as I love LGBT rep and cannon relationships, scenes like this are just as important. The characters talked about their feelings in a healthy way and were honest and open. Badyah, while not returning Norma's feelings, was assuring and kind and didn't put her down for feeling the way she did. And Norma, while still heart broken, respected her feelings and the fact she's not really into girls. And the two go on to have a strong friendship. And it's good.
It's awesome that it was handled in both mature and heartfelt way, because I know a lot of people worry about this exact situation of "what if they don't like me because they're straight?" And other people worry "what if they like me and don't know I'm straight?"
I've never seen this before in animation unless someone just kisses their crush out of the blue and it's suddenly super uncomfortable, so this was just a really nice experience even though Norma was rejected.
Exept that badyah wanted to things to be normal straight away while norma needed some time to process her first heartbreak/rejection, we can fault badyah for that
@@lipepsene not really she just wanted things to go back to how they were which I understand. Nobody is really at fault here so
Exactly. It's nice that this show was able to exemplify that not every gay crush may be reciprocated. Occasionally, it would feel a little too convenient that the love interest just so happened to be gay as well, personally. To be clear, it’s not that much of an issue, but a clash in sexualities definitely adds some realism.
This is fantastic. We need more shows and moments like this in animated media.
While those that have read the graphic novels saw it coming, this scene still hurts to watch.
What happened in the graphic comic ?
@@souhia_san I think this video made it obvious. Badyah telling Norma she's straight.
@@Matteso586 oh I misread 'saw it coming' lol sorry
wait there’s a graphic novel? finally
@@partygoer6874 i’m pretty sure the series is based on the deadendia comics
As someone who just went through something really similar to this with telling my best friend I had a crush on him, and getting rejected but still being friends. This scene kinda hurts to watch. I feel really bad for her.
NO CARTOON GIRL! DON'T CONFESS TO YOUR CRUSH ON THE FERRIS WHEEL, THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU THAT THEY DON'T SWING THAT WAY!!
HELP 😭
Cartoon girl lol
@@asingularleaf10 it's happened in another cartoon too to a female character. Hence, "cartoon girl"
Kipo and Norma learned that the hard way
Imagine planning on confessing your crush today, and then suddenly your crush wants to ride on a ferris wheel with you 💀
I’m sad for Norma but I’m kinda glad this happened. As much as I love lgbtq rep in shows, not all characters have to be lgbtq+ and date each other. There needs to be rejection. And it was so relatable to me. Especially how Norma reacted. I’m glad there was a bit of realism added instead of it feeling like the Disney movie cliche “you like me?? I like you too! Let’s date each other!” It teaches kids that their crush isn’t always gonna like them back. These kind of scenes (especially in cartoons) are very rare and it’s so pleasing to see.
IKR!!! This was so refreshing and handled so nicely.
Norma is me when I confessed to my best friend when I was grade 11, she's straight also and I knew I was gonna get rejected because she had a big crush on a guy.
Even though I knew she was gonna reject me, it still hurts and I thought she needed to hear about my feelings or it's just gonna mess with my head. We're still close best friends now, but it feels awkward whenever that day is mentioned.
Still hoping to find a new love someday, now that I know I'm pansexual.
What is pansexual again?
@@myvividmemories Google is free.
@@myvividmemories pansexual is having interest in people separate from their gender
yo I’m also pan!
You’ll find someone dw.
@@ohhhcrud.. That is the most simplest yet most accurate way someone has described it! I kept getting confused because people kept explaining it wrong to me
I’m so glad they didn’t make either person the ‘bad guy’ in this scene. Anybody who’s had to reject someone knows just how guilty you feel afterwards, but I really feel like this could help kids in the future understand that it’s nobody’s fault. You can not be attracted to someone and that’s ok
same, and i'm glad they didn't try to add in drama or them not being friends anymore, they're both totally cool about it and it's a sweet scene,,even if a little bittersweet
"Badyah, I'm sorry you're straight" is such an iconic line.
Im glad she didnt say that at her 💀
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If I had a nickel for every time I’ve watched a Netflix Original cartoon where a character confessed their feelings to another person on a Ferris wheel but the other character said they don’t swing their way, I would have 2 nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it’s happened twice
Btw, if anyone is wondering what other show I’m talking about, it’s Kipo and the Age of the Wonderbeasts
@@StillSomeone I KNEW THE SCENE FELT FAMILIAR!! I WATCHED S2 OF DE:PP THEN I WENT TO WATCH KIPO
I immediately thought the exact same thing it had to be intentional. It's even framed the exact same way, Kipo got a lot of praise and deservedly so for not being afraid to actually say the word gay. And I like that this show wasn't afraid to have the character just say they were straight, I think we're past the point where saying who you're attracted to is such an adult concept that they're scared to even whisper it in a family cartoon
@@noremac7216 yeahh! everyone gets the equal amount of representation (hopefully that doesn't offend anyone)
@@noremac7216 I did like how they didn’t taboo the word gay (my jaw dropped when he said it, and if that’s not a sign that people usually act like it’s a swear or slur, I don’t know what is.) I didn’t really like how they treated Troy, however, as it felt like his only purpose was to be a love interest and literally nothing else. But besides that, I’d say Benson is pretty good representation
I like that people are giving this kind representation, I like how Badyah was really okay with Norma liking her and that she didn't feel any digust to it while handling it in a healthy way which also expresses her emotions. If she's not into girls then that's fine, I'm glad that she still tries to get a long with Norma
I love how this show isn’t making the characters lives perfect, because this happens in real life all the time. A lot of times you like someone, when they don’t, and I think that’s a really important message in the show.
I kinda like how they kept them as friends. I never saw them as anything more, and this honestly feels more realistic. I've never really seen a show where a gay character gets rejected by a straight character.
DUDE THIS SCENE IS EVERYTHING!!!
THIS IS SO REALISTIC BUT IT STILL HURTS SO MUCH
Rejection scenes are important in tv. Demonstrating a healthy way of taking it is so underdone, and it usually has the rejected character lash out or make it everyone else’s issue. I’m glad while still showcasing the fact that she’s upset, she accepts it and is ok with it.
I haven't read any of the graphic novels, so maybe I'm way off here... but when Badyah goes "does it count if I'm not thinking about it?" it's possible she's actually aromantic and/or asexual, in which those feelings don't occur to her (at least not often.) She's just confusing it for straight due to allo/amatonormativity.
What even are those last two words? Why are we so obsessed with labels nowadays?
@@laobok Allo refers to alloromantic/allosexual, which is simply anyone who feels attraction regularly (the opposite of being ace/aro.) Amatonormativity (a mouthful, I know) refers to the societal expectation that you MUST desire/be in a relationship to lead a happy and fulfilling life, which is not only untrue in general but misleads people into forcing themselves into unhealthy relationships due to pressure. This effects everyone, but it's an especially big problem for aroace folk because they don't really feel attraction in the first place and causes them to feel guilty or "wrong" (a lot already do because so many people, including those IN the LGBT community, shun them so much already.)
And no, nobody HAS to have a label, but labels can help people figure out who they are and bring them more self-confidence. I mean, Norma is using the label "bi" because it feels right and coming out as such to her close ones has helped her tremendously. Badyah doesn't necessarily have to be aroace, she could just be straight, but it would be nice to see since there's so little representation for those identities.
@Alita That's fair
also badyah is a muslim so she cant be apart of the lgbtq
@@laobok Look it up 🤷
I cried every time I watched this scene. Because this happened to me i asked my classmate(guy) to date him but he said his taken but i gladly accepted that he said no. The fact that Badyah said some nice stuff to Norma is the same thing responding nice stuff to me saying "thank you because you appreciate me to the point i was your motivation" even though we barely know each other this was the most nicest thing happened to me even though he said "no"(wont go out with me)
Okay but can we talk about Badyah not being sure if she’s straight or lgbtq?? As someone who’s still questioning their sexuality (identify as biromantic currently) I FEEL SEEN!!!
Fellow biromantic here! I hope you figure it out.
Badyah is Muslim so she can’t really be in lgbt
@@D3lizii Christians "can't" either but there still are some.
@@phoenixofgrandeur2387 there’s like a Muslim prophet story thing that has something to do with lgbtq from what I’ve been told
@@phoenixofgrandeur2387 and there’s also a quran of why you cant. Also I’m actually a Muslim soo 💀
I feel like I was the one being rejected. I feel terrible!
I don't remember the last time I connected so hard to a character, I feel everything Norma feels.
When is season 3 at!?
It still hurts...
Same here! I actually started tearing up. I sure hope there's a season 3 soon
Why does it still hurt!!!???
THEY CANCELLED IT 😭😔😔
@@christopherross477 it will forever hurt now
Idk why I got so emotional in this scene although something I realized is that you can't always except ships to be canon especially with representation most of the time it's canon but some are just not.
Badyah’s “Could’ve been longer, don’t you think?” With the sad music makes this scene even more sad for some reason
I noticed this before but badyah is strangely clingy towards norma (aways wanting to hang out with norma, doing things norma wants to do (solve a mystery, do a podcast about demons even though she’s not interested in demons) and she even bought norma a new pair of shoes once) at first I thought it was because badyah also had a crush on norma but since that’s not the case I wonder if badyah simply doesn’t have any girl friend aside from norma, I wish they explore more about her outside the park
Best friends are a thing and I think people forget that. Not everyone has a person they connect to on a very deep but unromantic way but a lot of us do. Badyah may not be able to be attracted to Norma the way Norma would like her to be but it's very clear that she loves Norma with all her heart
@@noremac7216 2) as far as I know not even best friends buy shoes for the other, but desperate people do that 3) the problem is badya never asked to do anything she wants to do, its always what Norma wants to do
@@lipepsene Barney and Norma may be a dynamic duo but Bahdya is def Norma's best friend imo. And yeah some friends are that close that they buy each other really specific and personalized presents
@@lipepsene just because Barney is Norma's best friend doesn't mean Norma can't be Badyah's best friend. They're not mutually exclusive.
And you can have more than one best friend I’m sure Pugsley is also Barney’s best friend two
Awww poor Norma
I really wish my Younger sister accepted her rejection from her best frienf as gracefully as Norma did. She had a VERY hard time accepting the fact that her lifelong friend just wasn't into girls.
I've been in this situation before and all I know is the affection that I felt for a crush turned into loyalty to a friend afterwards.. It was hard but I've been lucky enough to have understanding people in my little group. One of my crushes had a baby recently, and I couldn't be prouder of her living her best life.
Something I like about this is that it mirrors a scene from kipo and the age of Wonder beasts so much it has to be intentional. This is literally an inverse of the scene where Kipo confesses to Benson, and just like I really praised that show for having Benson just come out and say he was gay I really appreciate it this one inverting the scenario. Not everything's a fairy tale Romance, and people sexualities not lining up happens both ways. I think we all know that Bahdya loves Norma with all her heart, she just can't love her the way Norma wishes she could
(At the cartoon cafe)
Kipo:(to Norma)Let me guess confess to your crush on a Ferris wheel but didn’t like you back because of there sexuality?
Norma:Yeah.
Kipo:It happens.
This… hurts me. It’s happened to me recently and this just breaks my heart.
Aw poor Norma. Ain't that just the way of life. You come out gay to your friend and say you have a crush on them but then they say their straight. I hope Norma finds love
I saw this coming because creator Hamish Steele gave a heads up -- but that doesn't change that the scene kinda hurts to watch
It does I love Norma so much and I kinda shipped these two but it also feels realistic too
@@danielladuck3323 On the flip side, Steele did hint that Norma x Badyah could still happen -- should we get a Season 3
@@danielladuck3323 Which also makes it more heartbreaking 💔
@@roo1014 I really hope that doesn’t happen. If the two became a couple I feel like that would ruin Norma‘s entire arc this season and it would be infuriating
@@barelyhere7200 I personally disagree, but I respect your opinion and can see where you're coming from
as someone who fell for a straight girl myself, i feel her
this scene just makes me wanna cry, both bc it's a sweet scene but also i wanted to see these two get together so bad lmao
but i'm still glad it happened, because it feels like every lgbt character's love life manages to be easy, where their crush is also lgbt and likes them too, and it's sweet that they can be happy most of the time but irl it's not so easy, it's nice to see something like this bc it literally never happens, and this show wrote it so well
But palline was realved to be evil she can't date or marry normorna when there odler if she is evil
@@michalelkin-bronner13 what
@@twist_ending7545 paline is evil though
I know people are disappointed that they're not together ,but honestly...
I believe this is better option. Recently, there are more and more lgbt people representations in cartoons, which is very important. However, showing these types of scenes is also important to show that such situations can also happen.
And also this scene shows just how good they are to themselves, that they don't want to lie to themselves.
Badyah wants to be honest with Norma, even if it might hurt and Norma want to respect her crush feelings
The fact shes muslim and we muslims are not aloud to such things
Dead end is the worst and i wish it NEVER existed
@@user-th5ze4ph1v So you're judging a whole series just because it has a healthy LGBTQ representation? I understand not supporting it because of your religion, but this really isn't a bad show.
@@user-th5ze4ph1v how she isn’t even lgbtqia(+) cause she has a bisexual friend oh no the tragedy
I've only started watching "Kipo and The Age of Wonderbeasts", but this scene reminds me so much of the scene from Kipo where she tells Benson that she likes him but he says that he's gay, and they handle it in a great way and they're still friends.
This is incredible and important. I know what it’s like admitting my feelings to someone who I know is straight and getting unsurprisingly rejected as a result.
Whether it’s same sex or not, rejections because of a difference in desires of a partner that are healthy is very good to show.
That guy I asked out and I are good friends to this day and plan on taking hiking trips together once his knee get better. Things will get better always. If not, find a way around it.
This is exactly almost one for one happened to me. I asked out this boy when I thought I saw signs. He told me he was straight but we’re still cool as friends, I tried to avoid him almost exactly like Nora(we aren’t like in a friend group but we see each other around a lot).
After watching this episode I’m not going to let being heartbroken effect me as hard as it did. Ive had my eyes on him for a very long time it hurts but I’m still young just like Nora’s Mom says two episodes later.
OH GOD I KINDA SHIPPED THEM BEFORE SEASON 2- this scene hurts to watch
ive shipped them since the musical ep
@@MarinetteDupainCheng-mj1uk since the trust me episode for me
"Badyah, I'm sorry you're straight"
No matter who it is not getting the reciprocal feelings still hurts.
Other than having this is good to show a healthy renection. I think having this in the show is good for kids to learn that all confessions mostly dont end in a happy ending.
mark my words, season 3 will have badyah be aroace in canon.
modeling this kind of healthy discourse is important. I remember my 1st crush cut contact with me when they found out. There wasn't this idea you could just be honest and stay friends. back then (not that long ago) someone coming out as gay was a threat met with hostility & isolation, as if it were a disease that could be caught. That kids get the message it's okay to interact with queer people, poliety reject advances, and stay friends is so important. Queer people are not monsters that will attack you.
Forget Pugsly’s death, this is the saddest part of the series.
These scenes are important just as much as any other rep, making LGBTQ people feel seen in our pain is just as important as being seen in our joy
It's giving, Kipo vibes!
as much as lgbtq+ characters are important, so are these scenes. Love dosen’t always have an happy ending. I also enjoyed the fact that they didn’t make anyone the villan here and i hope that Norma in later season will finally find her true love :)
We all know have is that feel .....
Pretty much the only showing i seen so far that have a rejected lesbian ship and actually have the character acknowledge that they're straight
I think this is a really, REALLY important scene. While a straight guy, I like when LGBTQ+ rep is done right, but usually I get the feeling that it's not made in an organic way. As if you come out as LGBT, obviously the person you like will also be and you two will be a couple right? But as it happens to straight people (most of the time actually), not everyone is going to correspond to your feelings
Yes I knew it! The entire time Norma is bisexual 💖💙💜
cartoon charchter “Norma” expresses her crush on fellow cartoon chachter “Badyah” who does not return those feelings because “If I dont think about in straight”
Aww baby my heart this was just pure the emotions of it Ah I can’t
This scene is so good!
That girl said she was straight, I guess that means they’ll just continue to be friends.
There is a hole where once was my heart
To the people in the comments, gay muslims exist! Just because you're Muslim doesn't mean you take everything the Quran says to the letter, and no one interpretation is correct. Your religion does not excuse intolerance.
Ace Muslim here, and yeah there's a lot of LGBTQ+ Muslims out there. I love representation of hijabi's in media, and especially how they handled it here. Rejection hurts no matter what but it might be good that it happens, because then you have the chance for a different opportunity. If not, your worth isn't determined by rejection ✨️
YES EXACTLY! 👏
this reminds me of that one scene in kipo
SOBBING IMDBSDH AAHHHHH... SOBBING 😭😭😭
This is ripping my heart out. This what I am going through the only difference is “Badyah” has no idea.
same norma, same
I relate to Norma in this scene, I have also been friend zoned for the same reason.
The friend zone doesn't exist
@@twist_ending7545 wdym
Crushing on a straight person is a diferent kind of hurt
NO!!!!!!! I'm okay that Badyah's hetero, but she and Norma would have been so cute together!
I’m pretty sure it hinted that Badyah isn’t sure if she’s straight or not
@@HackiePuffs true, but as of now she does identify as straight. Whether thst changes or not is entirely up to her. (That is to say, up to how the writers write her arc)
Yeah, but, respectfully muslims can't be lgbtq+, as a muslim myself! Sorry for the mishap ^^"!
@@katt-kek identity transcends religion. If someone is LGBT, they're LGBT regardless of what religion they are. Religion is a choice, LGBT identity isn't.
@@katt-kek Girl what
As someone who is muslim, this scene really hit like a brick and probably for so many others. I love how they did this to show that muslims can't partake in such things, but the fact that Norma is respectful about it, but seeing her sad is one of another thing, I too, have experienced something like this. Excellent job for Netflix by showing different perspectives on people. 😭
someone said that they're gonna be together in the future which i don't want it to happen 😭😭
"Muslims can't partake in such things" there are gay Muslims, she just not gay, it's not that deep
@@NurHiedaya noo😭
@@NurHiedaya why dont you want it to happen?
"cant partake in such things"? you do know muslims can be queer too right? im literally one of them, and apparently theyre going to explore this more if dead end gets a 3rd season so i hope that happens.
Mission failed we'll get em next time
I cried when i saw this but i came to terms with it 😔😔
"Mama mia i ve been fucking shot"
- every one watching this scene
I really hope Badya doesn't fall for Norma later in the series. Because that would mess with Norma's arc with season 2, accepting rejection. I'm okay with her getting together with any other girl or boy, just not Badya.
Or Zagan. She's 1600 years old. That would be weird.
I feel so sad for her when she cry’s 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
My sweet Norma,YOUR BESTFRIEND IS HERE😭
This scene hit me so hard as i found it so relatabel
“im straight”
knows normas shoe size
can perfectly draw norma
would do anything to be around norma
“im straight”
So...?
@@Jo-rl5ez shes not straight
You knew it was coming and it still really hurt!
Alright, but pretty sure I'm straight, but I don't think about it that much is exactly the thing I used to say before I realized I was asexual and aromantic.
The thing about crushes sometimes you get crushed either hard or gently
I felt that
this scene crushed my heart
If I had a nickel for every time I’ve seen a cartoon with a scene containing a character within a lgbtq+ category on a Ferris wheel I’d have two nickels
Not on Taco Tuesday
Ive said this alot and i shall continue saying it: GET MY BI QUEEN A GF ISTG
Zagan perhaps?
@@torazely Eh. I don't know why, but that ship doesn't sit right with me.
@@rosykindbunny1313 probably because Zagan tried to kill them in season one XD
I do like how Norma is starting to side with them tho. It'll be interesting to see what happens.
@@torazely I also just... don't like Zagan. She kinda came out of nowhere, and I was really looking forward to Pauline being the villain (and yes, I know it was technically Temeluchus who upstaged Pauline).
But I totally agree, I'm so interested in seeing how their new alliance goes!
Norma : 💔
Me : I'm so sorry, Norma. No, wait. I'm not. I don't care😊 (Moral Orel reference)
Felt that right in the gay.
Poor Norma.
That was a Nice surprise
It kinda reminds me of that one scene from kipo
0:57
I love this scene. It shows it doesn’t always have to be an LGBT person.🎉
That’s true!
exept there aint no way in hell badyah’s straight heres to quote the creator of the show on an interview and his twitter
“I dont wanna talk about badyah without giving stuff away”
“her feelings for norma are on the way”
“when I created the show I wanted there to multiple coming out scenes”
“the storyline is based off what I went threw when coming out, my version has a happy ending and this one does too”
Now what I have deciphered from this is badyahs parents probably werent too happy at the start because their muslim and some muslims consider it haram (not all)
She’s literally said she didn’t know 💀
Tf do you mean by that
@@twist_ending7545 you guys haven't read the source material and it shows.
Edit: IMSOSORRY i thought you were replying to the person with the creators quotes, not the starting comment- I agree tho, they worded that terribly,
that happen to me before
*Irl me crys*
Sowwy Norma
Bruhh Badyah just like me fr fr
This was me about 4 years ago. Except it was me and another dude. And we were a city away. And we were playing Fortnite
Good times
Is Badyah voiced by Lilliana Mumy (Leni from Loud House?)
No, Badyah is voiced by Kathreen Khavari
NOOO
We have a character come out as straight!
Omg we have the same pfp (used to lol)
Lol i forgot to reply "omg hi same profile" now it's too late lol
@@Hollow-Home lmao
Maybe I should watch this show🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃
Ok...maybe some people will hate me, but I prefer that Badyah is straight...Not in terms of discrimination, just in terms of narrative. You will love people that just isnt the same line as you, but thats ok.
At least badyah keeps it halal
its not haram to be queer😐 im a queer muslim myself (aroace sapphic). we exist, deal with it. apparently badyahs orientation is going to be explored further if theres a 3rd season, and i sincerely hope that happens.
@@puppycatsbee It haram to be gay or homosexuality in Islam it in The Quran amd of course you exist. We all have the feelings toward something Allah curse but we need to fight those feeling. That the whole point being a muslim. To fight human nature of attraction of what we want not what the Allah want
@@SoughtApple If your god didn't want you to be lgbtq that bad he wouldn't have created lgbtq muslims at all. But he did. because he should love anyone for who they are, and if he doesn't- you should find a new god.
@@Angel-i1e "you should find a new god" im sorry but im not trying to cause any drama but-
@@Angel-i1e Bruh, Christianity, Judaism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholicism. They all forbid that too.
And this world is a test. Do what's good and don't do what He informed us what's bad.
Well you can’t not bmle a girl for trying
When her friend says she isn't sure, they could have kissed and then talked about how they felt afterwards. How else could you really know then?