The Fall of Griffith: How Berserk will end
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- The ever-impactful berserk seems to be nearing its final few arcs, and so I have put together a few of my thoughts on how I think this series will conclude, and how the legendarily evil Griffith will finally fall.
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To me this theory makes the most sense and would be the most satisfying. The idea of Evil is ultimately what gives Griffith his power and this means that Guts is unintentionally only fueling Griffith with more power as his hate for him grows. It would be interesting to see if by Casca overpowering Griffith in the sense that she sees him for what he really is, a power obsessed egoistic and fragile man, that will reduce him back to his natural state. Whether that is possible or not, I am in love with the fact that Rickerts slap was intended to be more than just a satisfying moment. Maybe it was written to show us that Griffith is not in fact invincible. He is powered by hate and if he is not hated, he loses power. Very interesting theory indeed
It would be so nice to see griffith return to his crippled self, and have casca defeat him
@@ModernVagabondIsHereI think it makes sense. Remember that every killed apostle reverts back to his human form after dead. So maybe it will be the inverse with Griffith? I dont know.
@@ModernVagabondIsHere then what is the point of guts journey then? The reaspn why he becomes so powerfull is because he wants to defeat griffin right? Casca killing geoffing makes absolutly no sens ebecause she has no will power to defeat him, at least not alone
Yes i get that griffin would soon loose hos crip and power but still!
My prediction is that BOTH Gust and Casca would be the ones who would defeat griffin together since they both suffered this nightmare together and is both of them who shall end i all, thus givving both of them having a chance to shine
@denysvision583 guts has wanted to kill griffith yes, but he also became more powerful to save his friends. He protected them from the sea god, mozgus, grunbeld, and other apostles so his friends could live
@@denysvision I definitely see where you are coming from. It’s easy to see that a lot of Guts strength comes from his drive for revenge and the defeat of Griffith, however, I think the beauty of berserk lies in the fact that time and time again Guts is reminded of what really counts. Guys has had to learn that even though revenge is sweet, it comes at a high price and his focus is constantly re-shifted to the people he loves and cares about. Guys has already tasted revenge as he has killed almost every opponent that has done him wrong, for example his ‘father’ and ‘rapist’. Guts knows very well what revenge feels like. Casca has been assaulted countless times and is in my opinion the most wronged character in Berserk. Her revenge will be pivotal for her character as she is always in need of saving. I think it works better than Guts following the path we expect or hope for him. Berserk has a way of surprising us so we’ll see if any of us are right at all😂
If only we will live long enough to see the ending...
40 years later...
I fully buy into the idea of Casca killing Griffith--Guts' whole journey is about him moving past his need to kill Griffith, and reorienting himself towards what actually matters to him, which is his friends and loved ones. With Casca however, it would be her act of breaking free from Griffith's control, finally
And it would fit for the 3 main characters to finish their abusers - Guts killed Donovan and Griffith killed that lord whom he slept with to gain more money, so It makes sense for Casca to murder the man whom violated her in front of her lover and turned their kid into a demon!
@@PedroLucas-mg5je Great point
Guts? Is gonna move past Griffith? Who hooked up with Gut’s lady right in front of him. Responsible for all the loss in his life. He’s still in full vendetta mode. I know currently he’s in a bad place too. Skull Knight is gonna give him the info on the Godhand and he will finish it.
@@alexmartin3143 I honestly do believe Guts' journey should focus on him moving past Griffith--not that he forgives him or somethin stupid like that, but that Guts realizes that Griffith is unimportant
Killing Griffith won't make him happy, nor will it bring the Hawks back, nor will it actually heal his soul
What does make him happy and will heal his soul is him being with Casca and his friends
Maybe yeah he'll come in conflict against Griffith cuz Griffith legit needs to be stopped now cuz he's taken over the world
But Guts' hatred is *the* thing he needs to overcome to complete his character arc
Griffith always was his own undoing.
No, he was lead astray by the God hand as a child.
@@OWlsfordshire this.
That idea ties into Moonlight Boy theories of how Griffith will lose to Guts.
Like The Coyote from WB, he can only fail by his own hand…
I feel like Sonia is going to let her jealousy get the best of her and kill Charlotte (esp after Casca arrives , she'll be able to see / witness the eclipse by reading her mind )
If Charlotte dies, Griffith will lose his chance to be an official king - and if Sonia does a mental communication to the people of Falconia as to what Griffith is / the eclipse , the city will turn their faith on him (this seems to be eluded to of the refugees of Falconia grasping onto their old beliefs and creating issues in the neighborhoods)
I see either Casca and Ricket absolutely being the key to Griffiths downfall - not Guts.
i realized how much the story loves giving attention to sonia and her jealousy u might be right
I've been saying for years that it will be Casca who ends Griffith. Whether it is her who physically kills him or she is the one who gives the nod to Guts to allow him to strike the final blow, she will be in charge of his fate. He betrayed her more than he betrayed Guts so vengeance should be hers
Very true, he indeed betrayed her more than Guts. And what’s even worse, he r*ped her just to spite Guts as if sacrificing her wasn’t evil enough.
How has he betrayed her specifically more than the rest of the Hawks? What because he penetrated her? He penetrated every single one of them. Exercised total power over them and sacrificed them as lambs for the slaughter to fulfill his own selfish ends.
Griffith will be the one who end Griffith. His own ego once revealed will turn the whole world against him.
Guts and Griffith Kissing, Final Manga Panel. The end...
😂😂
The true berserk is the friendship we made through our journey
It was gonna end in yaoi the whole time
i feel like since the god hand is still a thing i feel like griffith will betray them because he’s all about control
That's definitely something I've thought of for a bit
that definitely seems like a pretty economical way for the plot to wrap up the God Hand element of the story.
I can see that happening, in regards to Slan, Ubik, and Conrad but Void has too much importance to just be killed off by Griffith.
Ain't no one in the god hand going to fuck over Void.
Griffith could betray the Godhand, and while his betrayal is going down Skull Knight might deliver the final blow to Void. Or perhaps Griffith does kill them all single handedly.
Here is my theory: Guts just needs to forgive Griffith, truly and fully, for Griffiths cosmic power he has over Guts to be lifted.
Rickert was able to strike Griffith because he fell outside causality’s plans for Griffith, thus making him an outside force that can hurt him.
As soon as Guts forgives Griffith, while not lifting the curse or the brand of the sacrifice, will lift Guys outside Griffiths plans for causality, allowing him to get the killing blow on Griffith as more of a mercy killing, ending the life of his once best friend, and in a sense putting down the rabbid dog he’d become.
My theory is that Griffith will be done in by both Casca and the Moonlight Boy.
Griffith has doomed himself by bringing Casca to Falconia:
Casca's pressence will cause friction between Griffith and his Apostles. Casca is a branded sacrifice whose body and soul belong to demonkind. Her sacrifice is part of the bargain for Griffith becoming a Member of the Godhand.
By protecting Casca from the deprivations of the Apostles, Griffith is flaggrantly refusing to uphold the bargain that made him Femto. This will result in his control of the Apostles starting to slip as they question Griffith's authority. Eventually the Godhand may intervene and demand that Griffith fulfill his deal by destroying Casca.... only to be unable to due to the Moonlight Boy's influence.
The Apostles will start to turn on Griffith, killing civilians which will result in civil unrest. Griffith will once again find himself losing control... Which is when Guts and his crew show up at Falconia.
Basically, by raping Casca (and corrupting her child) Griffith inevitably screwed himself.
this also is a great theory, either one would be amazing honestly
I wonder if it will cause more of a division amongst apostles because we have examples of both seemingly undying loyalty to the godhand represented by zodd and the ability to actively deny the godhand represented by the slug even if the slug died
My thought is also motivated by how fucking awesome it was to watch wyld get ripped in half by zodd and wouldnt mind seeing something like that again
@@larzprissel5983 AND we also have another wild card here: Sonia, because she's either the one who is mind-wiping Casca or is kept in the dark as equally as the other inhabitants, If the ladder is the real one, then I can see her (out of curiosity about Griffith's history with her) removing, accidentally, Casca's anathema in order to undo the brainwashing on her head, and she, unintentionally, shows to all of Falconia Casca's traumatic memories!
It makes sense. There must be a breaking point between him and his demon army and the other 4 demon hand.
Couldn't Griffith just command someone else to kill her?
It has to be Casca. She was the one who was most loyal to Griffith. So, if the people of Falconia see what happened to Casca and the band of hawks somehow, their faith in Griffith will plummet.
Exactly you said it perfectly
@@ModernVagabondIsHere But I think It all depends on Sonia, because she's either the one who is mind-wiping Casca or she is being kept in the dark just as much as the other humans!
@PedroLucas-mg5je oh I think Sonia will play a big part in all this, we'll just have to find out how
She’s also been noted at ‘Griffith’s Sword’ in the Golden Age arc… The irony of Griffith falling on his sword, would be too delicious to ignore.
I think the only reason Rickert was able to lay hands on Grffith is because people were watching
I took it in a somewhat similar way. I think Griffith accepted the slap.
I also think that the only way Guts would ever be able to harm Griffith again is to finally let go of his hatred deep within him, let go of his anger, rage, all of it. Then to place his actions in service of others. Of defending, of saving and helping those he loves. Being able to look at Griffith with pure apathy. No hatred, no love, nothing. If you stand inbetween Guts’ family though, he will stand his ground.
It can be a HUGE call back battle to when Guts beat Griffith and left the band of the hawk. Look back to Guts loosing to Griffith at the beginning of the story. He lost because he was aimless, rageful, young, foolish. He lacked a dream and a goal besides surviving. Then next time they fought, he was calm. Collected, focused, and not intending in hurting Griffith. But defending his dream.
I think also Casca plays a HUGE factor in finishing off/defeating Griffith. I do think we’ll get some sort’ve HUGE battle by the end of the story and I think Guts will have to learn his anger and hatred are holding him back and putting those he loves in danger. Ther Berserker Armor is also a metaphor for all this. Guts is most powerful in the armor when working with Schierke and able to control the beast of darkness. His blind rage only would lead to everyone he loves being killed, along with himself. If it even laid a finger in Griffith, I doubt Guts in the armor would be able to live long enough to do anything.
TLDR; Guts and everyone against Griffith needs to let go of their hatred and instead of intending to kill him, they need to save. Help, protect. Recruit and bring back those who he’s brainwashed into joining his cause. Defend their homes, families, etc. And kill the idea of the Hawk of Light. Then I think gradually he’ll lose power more and more. Maybe enough for him to become vulnerable. Then the roles Guts and Casca play in? I’m not sure. But I do think Guts CAN defeat Griffith and I think that Casca is the one to end Femto.
Spot on couldn’t have said it better myself. Beautiful exploration
Power of belief is an inherent motif to the story of Berserk. Also, the second time they fought, Guts was calm and collected, while Griffith was being a bitch and that´s why he lost. I just wonder where Void fits in all of this, since Miura himself said Void is the key.
Thank you for your video. I love videos like this. It makes for good nourishment while the next chapter comes out.
It almost seems like now, guts is more reckless when fighting while griffith is more collected. It's a nice parallel
"Void is key"
This haunts because we really don't know what was in Miura's supposed notes or whether they were written well enough to be directly interpreted into the story appropriately or with that intent in mind at all. I know Gaga formed before he passed and he would've likely released some info about future events to the staff but the way chapters have been panning out, I suspect that there are certain gaps in the info he left behind(not a slight to Gaga but I feel like the new chapters abbreviate his storytelling style abit more than I expected.) I don't expect his team to just release them but maybe some of previous notes and concepts for events that have already been published would assuage some anxiety. I'm glad berserk is continuing, let that be clear, but Miura provided this same staff with storyboards and notes on Duranki and it was way more inline with Miura's style of sequencing the story. This tells me that maybe Miura's notes were not comprehensive enough accurately translate his narrative style via them now that he's gone. Bittersweet.😢
I think void is now a vessel for the idea of evil, is probably maybe something that was apart of the key. Like void would take away Griffiths powers, since the ideal of evils fuels Griffith and Griffith gets exposed.
I think your ending statement about casca being the one to kill him makes perfect sense . A point that you didn’t add that I think helps it some more is the fact that Griffiths relationship with her has always revolved around the fact that he didn’t save her he just empowered her to save herself . I think this exact empowerment will be his downfall. Very solid video overall . I too try making berserk content . Lmk if you ever wanna talk .
I saw your channel man, good stuff, I'd be down to talk
Miura did say that Griffith isn't the biggest threat there is. It's Void. We hardly know anything about him and he is so illusive that if Griffith does end up going down, what about the rest of the god hand?
Where did he say this?
@@gio2953He was asked in an interview about the Godhand's goal and he said in a single word, it is "Void" and left the rest up to the imagination.
Void is the oldest and most powerful member of the Godhand. It is pretty safe to assume he would be a larger threat than Femto. If Femto is an outlier and goes rogue do to some disagreement with the other members, I believe he would undoubtably have his work cut out for him.
The big thing to think about Berserk is all the players. Everyone is like a chess piece moving. Guts is our main protagonist, and Griffith/Femto is his greatest adversary. However, Void is to Skull Knight as Griffith is to Guts. Their beef goes back ages. And Void absolutely has agency. Seeing that he is the ome to spark Femto's rise to power. Griffith had the will and determination, but Void is the one that gave him the choice.
Even if we include the lost chapter, if it wasn't for Void Griffith wouldn't be where he is. Unless another all powerful demonic force gave him the choice to become a god.
Id like Guts and Casca to have a happy ending. Both have had a hellish life. Id like to think theres some happiness for them after all they've endured.
I’d love the idea that the abandoned Band of the Hawk would be the catalyst in bringing him down. Rickert perhaps being the reason we know he could be harmed, and Casca dealing the final blow. Since, they are the only two people alive from the Hawk who may hold onto to their former reverence. Guts, though yes was enamored by him, never held Griffith to that same standard that Casca and Rickert did.
In him abandoning and discarding them, The Band of the Hawk would get their justice for this crime.
Thats a nice look you brought, the thing about intentions of hurting griffith
It fits very well miura's placements of psicological concepts on the whole story
My theory is he will betray everyone for his own benefit. He will attempt to sacrifice all of humanity in order to become more powerful than the god hand, probably at the wedding with charlotte, as a ceremony, he will get everyone to mark the rune of sacrifice in their forehead like the skeletons below the torture prison tower in midland, and around this time, Sonia will realize what he did to Casca. She will have a moment of doubt and then when snooping around she will realize his plan, or he will show cruelty, proving her doubts real. then she will alert everyone, all of falconia will start to get against Griffith, and he won’t be able to control the uprisings except by using the demons to murder people, then the Kushan will start attacking the demons and when it all gets to the final battle, the godhand will betray Griffith, and he will cry and be like a baby, desperate, making a tantrum like the narc he is, this will make everyone not see him as powerful anymore and either Casca kills him when he tries to use his power on her, or it ends with guts sparing his life because he pities him, and Griffith living the rest of his life in shame, the worst punishment for him
That's a pretty solid theory, I like the idea of him trying to attempt a mass sacrifice
You make some great points I also believe that Griffith will eventually become a normal human again and he will maybe see how powerful guts is compared to him or how he can't even fight against casca or maybe once again he will be a crippled tortured man and he will have to watch his kingdom fall right in front of his eyes, everything taken from him once again which I will love to watch nonethless not a bad theory at all.
83 is Objectively Canon, since it doesn't contradict anything within the narrative or powers of Apostles and the God Hand.
The thing is, like what you said it didnt fit in the time frame and timeline of the narrative. Funny too, since the Idea of Evil and the God Hand is all about causality and their manipulation of it.
I’m ngl, knowing how many inspirations Miura took from Devilman and other works of Go Nagai, I would not be surprised if Griffith doesn’t get defeated and instead he will destroy everything and everyone around him (Guts included) and will be left completely on his own. A king of his own world. He achieved his goal, but this goal doesn’t satisfy him anymore - if he is the only one alive, there is no evil, but there is no good. There is nothing except for him, and he is forced to live the rest of his live in complete solitude, like a purgatory he made for himself.
In his dreams if that is
This is a cool concept, but also a very specific to be built. Simply doesnt fit Berserk... Miura didnt built anything that could lead to this conclusion, and would be such a indigest ending that most people would just ignore
A good subversion of expectations would be Griffith's fall leading to his ultimate victory. Griffith craves ultimate power, he wants to attain godhood. Martyrdom would set him up in the minds of all the people who follow the Holy See as a Christlike figure. He would gain an almost symbiotic relationship with the idea of evil, being the yin to its yang in the minds of the people.
Their collective unconscious and will would literally make him the god of their universe.
However, I see where you're coming from. Griffith thrives on love, hate, and anything that gives him power over others. He dies when people become indifferent towards him. When they stop caring.
Can strongly agree with this Casca theory, I really hope that she gets the last blow on him. I hope Guts gets something new off Rickert and better yet Rickert tells guts about the slap
With the most recent chapters we can hope rickert and guts can plan something
I agree, I think Guts not being able to harm Griffith contrasts nicely with Rickert being able to land a solid blow. This will lead to some character development on Guts’ end too regarding his need for vengeance.
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I love this idea. I was gonna write that Guts has to deliver the final blow, yet now I agree that it has to be Casca; she’s his ultimate victim in the Eclipse, so she must be his undoing.
anyone who says guts is gonna become an apostle is crazy cause he'd definitely have to sacrifice casca and probably his little gang and also gut's has just specified multiple times that he's a human
He also is already offered as someone else's sacrifice (griffith) so who knows if that would even be possible
Also, apparently, it’s been stated that Apostles feel a natural urge to serve the Godhand. It’d be pretty difficult for Guts to go after Griffith then, which is the main reason why Guts would want to become an Apostle. It’d also be pretty nihilistic from a storytelling perspective which is something I don’t think would fit Berserk. Berserk is a dark story, sure, but it’s never been a completely hopeless story.
@@ModernVagabondIsHere It is possible for sacrifice to be an apostle, example: Egg Of The Perfect World. But anyway the thing is that Guts becoming an apostle is worthless, and it would rob him of the power of his will against the causality. Simply he would be berserk for eternity not being able to catch up as apostle to Griffith. He would be just roaring into the abyss after Griffith, its the worst place for Guts to be in. Think of it this way he would be like in the eclipse eternally. It might as well be truly hopeless. Its just despair, and yes Berserk is about it, its also coming from it and finding hope. Guts would never find hope as an apostle, truly the most gruesome and worst scenario ever. It would be his personal vandetta, revenge and war for eternity, he would be like Zodd and Skull Knight combined and not being able to ever do anything to fullfill it. And even if he would never ever be fullfilled, he would just go to next revenge and war.
@BLACK80085 I do agree, I don't know why people say guts would do this. Zodd is an example of what he would become as an apostle, but skull knight is an example if he keeps allowing the berserker armor to take control
It is more likely that guts will become an undead ghoul like skull knight than an aspotle.
Great video! Thought this was a video from a guy with like thousands of subscribers. Keep up the work man, this was wonderful
Much appreciated friend
You cooked w this. Only recently got into berserk and i'd love to see casca be the one to end it i think it would be perfect for her character
There must be a reason why Griffith brought Rickert to Falconia in the first place and later Casca.
Griffith didn't bring Rickert, he only gave him an invitation to be at his side, casca was actually kidnapped
Your theory with richert gave me chills and I subscribed immediately.
Thank you !
I dont know if it’s gonna play out like this but I’m definitely convinced he’s gonna die by Casca’s hand. I also fully expect a very dark ending. Many main characters will have to die. Clearly nobody’s safe. This series is more brutal than Game of Thrones. I hope Guts and Casca get to live happily ever after but I’m not fooling myself.
Miura wrote that ending of Berserk will be a happy one(obviously some characters besides Guts and Casca will die ).
Well. I have 2 takaways about the story so far:
1° Griffith already made his big mistake. Kidnnaping Casca again. For me, that is the PERFECT proff of his imminent downfall. Griffith failed in the Golden Age when he acted impulsively, by pure greed, and emotion. And he got f up.
2° I believe Hate its not enough to kill Griffith. Guts needs a deeper motivation other than his Pure Hate for Griffith. He NEEDS to let go of hate to be able to win against the Falcon. I dont know if he will have to forgive the Bird Man, lr something, but that might be it. He need to chose ONE FINAL time between his LOVE for his friends, including Casca, and his HATE against the Falcon. Hate will eslave and kill him, as a result of the Berzerking armour, and love will free him once and for all.
I believe we are gonna see the conclusion of his Arc by the time the final chapters are released.
And yes, i believe that there will be one final batle, actually, many final batlles between Team Guts and Team Griffith.
But the PINNACLE of it all will be one final direct encounter between Guts and Griffith. Similar to when they dueled the last time before Guts left.
But this time, Guts will not hesitate.
He took casca because the moon child was attached to her not Griffith. It would be a weakness for Griffith if the child always traveled across the world tree to see casca. Casca is a hostage and nothing more, it strengthens Griffiths position.
maybe we are in the beginning of the endgame now
with casca in falconia maybe she will see him for who he is and gain her ability to kill him
probably all while he tries taking over the godhand , maybe like void before him.
only
to be brought down by everyone working to bring him to be a human
i disagree it will be the moon boy his son who has no malice. Guts might end up having to kill his son for humanity like god.
Amazing theory. I hope Casca spins the block on this guy. Gotta get it back in blood
I’ve been saying something similar “idk how but casca ends up being the one to kill Griffith”
I think, really think the god hand will betray Griffith and fight each other for control, they are chaos after all
Regardless of how it ends I hope that Casca and Rickett play a pivotal role. Aside from Griffith, I've always wondered what would happen to the rest of the god hands and the state of the world. Great video btw
I truly think casca and rickert will make another appearance, it's gotta happen
It's 100% going to turn out this way.
I wrote a post a while back that basically said the same thing:
-people will lose faith in Griffith weakening him
-with some key help from the moonlight boy, Casca will be the one to deal the final blow
alternatively, there is also a scenario I could see where they don't even kill him at all. just depower him and leave him to his fate. but I do think it's more likely that Casca does the deed. basically sacrificing her own child in the process.
I still don't know how the God Hand fits into this all. Surely they must be defeated too. Would killing Griffith be enough to sever them and the Idea of Evil from reality? Or is there going to have to be a lot more to it than that?
I could perhaps imagine Guts getting his sword powered up like a giant Sword of Actuation, and in a final moment of "letting go of his brutal nature" flinging it right into the heart of the idea of evil or something similar to that and ending that thing.
To be honest, I could see the god hand still living. They are evil, but it's only by the idea of evils concept. Like you said, unless the idea of evil is destroyed, I think they would still live
@@ModernVagabondIsHere Yeah, it could easily go that way.. I do feel like a satisfying defeat of the entire thing, Idea of Evil, God Hand and all could be good if done well though.
@@ToneSherpaI think they can maybe sever the hold the idea of evil has on the physical realm, but as long as people create the classification of evil to serve as the reason for their suffering, so to will the idea of evil will live on.
Essentially people would have to do away with or limit the belief in the concept of evil, for the idea of evil to have less of a hold.
@@spartanoreo5075 I think that might be ultimately where things go.. severing the worlds from each other permanantly and basically getting rid of magic all together.
As the world of betrayals, I think we already know what will happen to Griffith
This is a good theory, bro.
How to destroy Grifith? Somehow make people see him for what he truly is. This would give him a mental breakdown, like the one he had when Guts beat him. He then either will give Guts or whomever an opening to kill him, or the Moonlight child will do it
great theory really enjoyed seeing you connect the dots
Thank you friend
Thats a REALLY good theory and I like it a lot
You forgot about very important thing. Guts child is sharing body with Griffith so if someone going to kill Griffith, moon child also gonna die
'If' Griffith dies, no mater who kills him (And I would love it to be Guts, but Casca feels right) I suspect he will die as the moonlight boy. I do not see Guts, or Casca feeling hate or fear for theirs son.
It would be pretty tragic for them to have to kill griffith as the moonlight boy but it definitely is possible
that will be the thing. Casca killing the moonlight boy/Griffith would be more of an act of mercy and/or sacrifice than an act of hate.
It would be amazing to have a final stand off where Guts has to hold Griffith at bay, tell he becomes the Moonlight boy, so Casca can kill him.
I’m fascinated by the idea of evil being a mirror of humanities collective unconscious, and as a result, malleable and ultimately at the mercy of the human race that it manipulates. I have this scenario in my head where Griffith ultimately succeeds in uniting the world under his rule. This victory would lead to an era of peace and prosperity, but also be a sort of double edged sword for Griffith….triggering hope for humanity and warping the idea of evil into something different. Being a god hand, this would sever the source of his power, evil. It would be a hollow victory for him on two fronts….hed have nothing more to fight for having conquered the world while also being robbed of his power that allowed him to do so, perhaps even being reverted back to his crippled human state and left to die alone filled with regret. He could be the ultimate final pawn of the idea of evil….as the human race, through Griffith, wished to move on to a more prosperous era. The idea of evil chose to end itself and allow humanity to enter a period of logic and reason.
The idea that if griffith really "saves" humanity but they start to branch away and allow the concept of evil to dissipate would be interesting.
@@ModernVagabondIsHerethe problem is that mankind doesn't see the way he really is, they will be slaves to his will.
Just like the Fremen in Dune become slaves to the Atreides.
PS: The idea of killing a powerful being by someone who doesn't hate them is something that happens in one of the Dune books.
Omg I LOVE that prediction!!!
You're a legend
this is the best theory ever! i put so much thought onto this like you do and this is the most logical way to end the series.
I'm glad you enjoyed!
I always thought Griffith couldn’t be harmed due to both guts and apostles are marked by the brand of sacrifice therefore in a way connected to him. Rickert does not have a brand so hence why he could lay a hand on him. I do like ur theory as well that way there is more depth into why he can’t be harmed.
That's a fair point, but remember when the kushans tried shooting arrows at him and they all missed?
Guts already managed to land a physical blow to Griffith
@@yonikperez3110 not since he's became femto
@@ModernVagabondIsHere No, he did. When Guts went berserk, he sliced off a strand of Griffith's hair. Showing the viewer, although small, he was able to scathe Griffith.
@@yonikperez3110 you're right, he did cut a strand of hair, but I would say that is no where close enough to land a full attack on him so far
Great theory. Also guts’ only victory over him was when he was focused in the zone not rage full
We do need an ending where guts finally gets over griffith and stops his haterade over him that would be a really satisfying character development for Guts cause he was always fuelled by haterade and the inner beast inside him when he finally does it Griffith can’t take control of Guts anymore and he will be angered thats when Griffith would try and kill guts himself but Casca would save him and kill him herself giving her character redemption and finally killing Griffith would remove their brands and they won’t be attracted by monsters and demons anymore and separating the mind of griffith from the moon light child’s body would finally give the child his own body he can use forever and with griffith dead the godhand would be powerless as well
Amazing! I wonder what would the fate of Guts would be if this were the case.
I disagree with your interpretation of the slap. I’ve always assumed that Griffith allowed Rickert to slap him because subconsciously he regrets his sacrifice and feels he deserves to be punished. Femto isn’t a removal of Griffith’s humanity, but a suppression of any moral, selfless emotions while enhancing his desire and ambition to a distorted extreme (hence being referred to as the king of longing). I believe Miura’s final chapter supports this, as in the brief moments when Griffith changes back from the moonlight boy, he’s in touch with his humanity once again and is aware of the depravity of his actions, resulting the tear he sheds.
SPOILER When the Moonlight Boy morphed into Griffith, Griffith shed a tear. This suggests the Moonlight Boy is making Griffith retain a shred of humanity and could be what's stopping him from hurting Guts or Casca.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it!
For me, there is no one more deserving of payback than Casca. Ever since the Eclipse she's the one who's got the short end of the stick.
Griffith won the first duel, Guts won the second, it's time for Casca to finish the story. Guts keeps Zodd at bay, Skull Knight keeps the Godhand at bay, RPG party fight the general randys.
Also, I think Rickert truly is the main shonen protagonist cus Berserk feels like a story told from a side character. He's the perfect guy to rule Midland. The hawk gets the throne.
Casca kills Griffith. We do get a final epic moment with Guts as he defends her in the aftermath (perhaps the other godhand members appear or the apostles attack them) . That’s my head cannon at least.
I Like this, I’m okay without an insane femto vs guts final battle but we better at least get guts vs zodd
I find it hard to imagine a scenario where Guts and the others are strong enough to defeat Griffith in battle, let alone the evil Band of the Hawk and the God hand. I like to imagine a Final Eclipse, where this time Guts will be ready and armed with his Dragonslayer and the Berserker Armor. This time, instead of the slaughter of the original Band of the Hawk, Guts new family will fight to protect itself and others. In parallel with Guts and Griffith, the Skull Knight will be the one to have his final duel with Void, defeating it, but becoming a hollow version of himself that has been consumed by revenge and has nothing else to live for. Instead, Griffith will punish Guts, trying to break his spirit, but Guts will show his greatest quality, surviving through everything that Griffith does to him, to protect his family, the opposite of what Griffith sacrificed. Griffith will become emotionally distressed, unstable by looking in Guts eye. Guts journey has become about acceptance, he has grown as a human after everything they have been through.
After being beaten down by Griffith again, Guts slowly gets up, and lifts his Dragonslayer yet again. Griffith asks him what he hopes to achieve, how long does he think he will last. Guts says something like "Well, you know me, they tell me I'm stubborn. We humans will keep on struggling for as long as we can." After some more clever and emotional dialog which I don't know how to write, something related to how this "Evil" and the God Hand have been manipulating him and everyone else, trying to force their fate, Guts sticks his sword on the ground and extends his one hand to Griffith, telling him he forgives him and tells him he can still come back. Guts tell him he knows this because the God Hand doesn't know him like he does, that his will is stronger than anyone and that he is as stubborn as he is, that he too was his only friend. After that, Griffith torns his helm open, revealing his face and crying eyes. Once again, Guts is the only one able to make Griffith put his dream aside, a dream he realizes has been "forced" upon him but these forces trying to control his fate. After a brief moment of resolution between the characters, a quick exchange of words between Griffith and Casca, Griffith now fights off the remaining members of the God Hand, allowing Guts and the others to escape, preventing the Final Eclipse from being complete.
The world goes back to normal, magic is diminishing as the years go by, humans still have to struggle and be vigilant, as evil is always around the corner, but they accept it and continue to live their lives as best as they can, and for the time being, things are now better and peaceful. Guts, Casca and the others live happily for some years, and one morning Guts simply dies, peacefully in his bed, his body finally succumbing to a life of struggle.
I think Guts story is leading him to this evolution of his character, where he grows as a person, so just a final battle where he defeats Griffith just wouldn't be "satisfying" at this point. As corny as it is, forgiveness seems to be the proper final step for him, the understanding that they all made mistakes and were tempted by evil, even Griffith.
Why would griffith care about gut's opinions? Why would they move him now at his current state, it seems contradictory after all griffith has done. Any ending that has mortals influence his decision would be self contradictory. It's nice to dream about such a resolution but it doesn't seem coherent for someone with griffith's power.
skull knight will fuse his behlit blade with the dragon slayer.
No idea from Miura, but from his friend in charge now, it seems salvation is either the Berserk Rage Dog, or the Guts Behelit. Neither an attractive choice for 'A man, who never needs you Apostle filth!"
I don't know, but I know this comes up next! Kodai senden o shimashou!
Nah. Berserk ending(and the reason why it take soo long to end the seria) is that, last arc will be Guts and Griffith epic 20 chapters s*x scen.
They will politely ask him to stop being so mean and he will agree and stop.
what about guts cutting one of griffith's hairs? what about the godhand? what about guts' behelit? what about the previous godhand? what about skull knight and void? there are still so many questions
It was a shame that you didn't talk about the fact that Jack kept staring at the camera that he kept glanceing at it
Berserk is my favorite story ever
What about the hand members like Void, Slan, Ubik and Conrad, I'm thinking how will Guts defeat them
Guts will clap his cheeks violently and the show will end
Justice for my boy Guts
It's the same thing I was thinking. What happened to Guts is already being rectified by him putting his own life back together killing Griffith is just out of revenge but being killed by the very people he plans to betray is nothing short of Justice if their beliefs in him dispel then his powers will as well
Right. For Guts to grow and be happy he needs to get outside his own darkness. Miura said there would be a happy ending.
Interesting ideas! I saw somewhere (don't remember if it was a video or a comment) that mentioned something cool from chapter 366: while Guts was attacking Griffith, the Dragonslayer managed to remove a strand of Griffith's hair. Blew my mind when I noticed - what do you make of it? I agree that Guts - probably - won't kill Griffith. I think it makes more sense for someone like Casca or Rickert to play a large part in Griffith's downfall. But when I saw the Dragonslayer/hair panel, I was like "OOOHHHH!! HE CAN DO IT" lol.
I think it's possible that Guts dragonslayer has an almost mystical sense to it. We know that the number of demons he's killed has affected the sword, and it's possible it had just enough effect to slice a single hair. Or maybe that Guts has ever so slowly put away some of his rage, but I kind of doubt that
Imo the way that was drawn was ambiguous, perhaps unintentionally. His hair was drawn with an outline but the purported strand of hair had none.
Your idea is also reinforced when we remember that, in the last chapters, guy's sword strikes basically could no touch Griffith...
I just watched the Disney movie "wish." I only watched it because my son loves stars anyways. I couldn't help but see the villain in the movie the same as Griffith. It was crazy that my mind saw the comparison. I figured the ending would be the same and the downfall of Griffith.
I love this theory very similar to my random thoughts
I believe evil cannot kill evil in berserk which is why skull knight is trying to be somewhat enlightened
I think casca will kill moonlight child out of love, perhaps killing herself too
Similar to the assassination of that boy and his dad in the golden arc
I think they will beat him in an unconventional way, by maybe sealing him or exorcising him.
I think Guts said he can’t hate him like he does due to their past history. I see where you’re coming from and it does make sense but that’s just what I think and feel personally
It wont. The GOAT has left us more than a year ago -- I'm not reading fan fiction !
It's an okay theory, some of it feels forced but some fall into place, I'm just curious as to why you didn't include the part where in guts almost cut him down on elf island. Appreciate your answer!
Well the thing was, he didn't "almost" cut him down. He tried his best and only managed a single hair. I took this as guts dragonslayer being imbued with magical power from the demons he's killed. I also would say guts has lost just the tiniest bit of drive to kill griffith. He still tried, of course, but I would say that's the reason only a hair was cut
Fact is the story has been written in a corner and it's hard to figure out where it's going now that the author passed away without leaving behind a clear ending for it. Just like GRR Martin.
this makes so much sense??? what if griffiths true power comes from the idea of evil and thats why guts thought he was so powerful to the point that he physically could not hit him, if he didnt believe that would be be able to kill griffith and the god hand? but the thing is if he saw he cant hit griffith how could one physically imagine that he isnt all powerful
It kind of all falls into place when you take the route of the idea of evil being at the heart of all of it
@@ModernVagabondIsHere If this is all true Kentaro Miura rest his soul is a genius and mastermind
I honestly don’t think Griffith’s downfall is going to be as climatic as people think…
I think Guts' final epic showdown is going to be against the Godhand and not specifically Griffith
I think it'll be against the apostles in the new band of the hawk
I agree that Casca will indeed be the one to end Griffith, I believe that it will happen a bit differently. We know that Guts is still carrying around that Behelit, and he is currently on his way to Falconia. When Casca wakes up again she will feel nothing but absolute distress and fear at being forced to be around Griffith yet again. I think that if Guts is able to be present for this, Casca could potentially activate the Behelit and summon the Godhand once again. The Godhand will only accept a sacrifice that means something to you, and I believe despite everything Casca still has deep rooted feelings for Griffith in some way, making him a worthy sacrifice. So Griffith will ultimately be destroyed, at the cost of Casca becoming either an Apostle, or taking Griffiths place as the 5th member of the Godhand
I think the idea of the godhand destroying griffith is very interesting. We've never seen if a godhand member can be a sacrifice, so this would be very interesting, nice idea!
ooh i can already see it in my mind, realizing he is the sacrifice he tries to kill her as a last ditch attempt but his attack as femto gets stopped midway, then his armor gets stripped from him with the godhand members laughing on the side, and maybe zodd deals the killing blow. Wondering what form she will take but she cant be the 5th member because she doesnt have the crimson behelit
@jonathanchoo540 that's such a cool concept to think of
I suppose Griff could be destroyed by evil? Godhand might cease to find him useful and turn on him. If I was writing subversive story that's what Id do.
I would imagine it being the exact reverse. Griffith, ever trying to reach higher heights betraying the God Hand would make a whole lot of sense both in plot terms and for his character's motivations.. and it would be a pretty neat and tidy way to wrap up that element of the story. That's a 4 for one deal on antagonists meeting their fates. It's a really good deal!
Casca got regains her sanity
I Remember Guts Beating Down Griffith During There 2nd Fight Before Getting Caught In A Submission Hold. Zodd Knocked Griffith Out. Julius Slapped Griffith For Catching The Princess. Guts Hurt Griffith's Shoulder When He Defeated Him The 3rd Fight. The King Whipped Griffith Before The Torturer Surgically Removed Most Of His Body. Wyald Handled Griffith Like A Doll. Then Finally Rickert Slapped Him.
I'd Say You're Right About What These All Had In Common; None Of These Characters Feared/Believed In Him During Those Times
the god slap could have only been a result of Griffith allowing that to happen. There are a number of ways the series can end. But I think, the series tends to have a lot to do with cycles and the past repeating itself (albeit with some key differences).
1. When it was Guts v Griffith in their first encounter, it was almost evenly matched with Griffith edging out the win due to a number of factors
2. When Guts left the band, he left Griffith utterly feeling powerless
3. Likewise, also how Griffith left Guts feeling in their latest encounter.
With that thing in mind, there's also a likely tendency of Griffith to cause his own folly:
1. By expediting his conquest of Princess Charlotte and getting caught
2. By defiling Casca during the Eclipse, and being reborn into the physical world with the moonlight boy as part of his reincarnation
I think even with the ability to see through causality, he will still let his own emotions (despite him saying he has none anymore) get the better of him.
Either that, or the very bad scenario where he will ultimately redeem himself.
Like, what if ever since he's assimilated into the GodHand, he's already begun to plot against the Godhand and the idea of evil, and everything he's ever done ever since has been all to take them down (with himself along with them), ultimately sealing his legacy as the savior of the world. (yuck)
I could see this story ending with Griffiths defeat, yet still being seen as a hero to many, or possibly, as a legend for the future generations
But I see people say this a lot, that griffith allowed it. Why? Why would he allow it? Does griffth think he'll gain rickerts trust in letting him slap him? He knows rickert will never join him. It's something I've thought on for a bit. Griffith really has no reason to let himself get slapped. All it does it let rickert vent his frustrations, but what does he get after that?
Miura wrote with a lot of intention but it's also possible Griffith took the slap.
There was always one question that caught my curiosity.
Was there ever an Eclipse, in which the owner of the Crimson Behelit denied the Godhand during ceremony and refused to make the sacrifice?
Because it's quite odd to me, which lengths Godhand members take, to ensure the successful outcome of a newly born Godhand member. They use their perception of causality to manipulate destiny hundreds of years ahead. At the ceremony itself, the first they did was to isolate Griffith as far as possible from the Band of the hawk, so they can start to manipulate him without any disturbance.
But, in the end - they can't enforce someone to make the sacrifice. So, what would have happened if Griffith refused?
This is fishy in my opinion. Going suchs lengths to ensure the outcome, feels like there's more to it. Like an unspoken consequence for the Godhand, if they fail to give birth to a new Godhand member
In my opinion, I don't believe anyone has ever refused a crimson one. The story mentions how griffith was always meant to find the crimson egg. He was meant to be at this place in time and keep moving towards his dream. I imagine a similar fate was upon every other person who encountered it
@@ModernVagabondIsHere Yeah, but don't you think it's odd? All this power to alter the course of events and shape the future to their liking. For what exactly?
To ensure the perfectly prepared circumstances for the desired outcome, because in the end they have to rely on a chosen being - making a decision - that is fundamentally not in their control. Each Eclipse is a gamble and they manufacture an incomprehensible and unspeakable illusion, to reduce the risk of getting denied as low as possible.
I wonder. What would happen, if an Eclipse gets triggered without the Godhand being prepared enough for the event?
The Kushan remnants will attack, Falconia's residents will somehow lose their belief in Griffith, making him lose belief in himself (perhaps THIS is the key, as Griffith is a narcissist. Maybe he reverts to his former tortured self), and Casca will be able to kill him because she will not fear him, but pity him.
Guts' role will probably be killing apostles to clear the way to Griffith, maybe heroically dying in the process (I'd like a happy ending though lol)?
Skull Knight is likely the arch-protagonist in the setting and somehow has a plan to take out all of the rest of the God Hand.
Me too, i.ve always thought the one who will end Grifith will be Casca. However if what you say it.s true, Guts aswel might not be so lucky...dunno why
To be honest ur prediction sounds so beautiful I will be happiest guy alive If it end so .Ever since I started reading I have a deep hate for griffit this will make me happy.But I still wish we can see guts rip him to pieces 😂😂
Oh trust me I'd love to see guts tear him apart but I think it'll be casca
There's something that might work Griffith it's trapped in the body he shares with the moonchild, if schierke pull the ethereal body of the moonchild then Griffith end up with a weaker apostle body, even the god hand has it's limits like slan made of mutilated flesh when faces guts or conrad made out of rats
While it's non canon & might be never be brought up again, idea of evil represent human desires in its most twisted form. so there must be the opposite of it, that is the idea of good. Who could access such a thing? there are three characters that may be gonna end up to meet idea of good. They are Shierke, Moonlight Boy, & Casca. All of them are coincidentally lost in astral plane. The pathway to the realm of idea or existence.
I still believe Griffith will be defeated & being redeemed by moonlight boy. For Casca to be the one that put final blowntk his defeat would the highest cathartic moment of the series.
I think the idea of evil was removed for a reason. The idea of evil is an abstract concept in real life to explain suffering. Goodness is something we accept more readily, right? So we don't need a mythology to deal with goodness.
I have thought some similar things, but I think you're missing a big piece. Also let's keep in mind we'll see Moto's end of Berserk, but never Miura's end. I believe there will be a counter to the idea of evil, i.e. an idea of flourishing or peace. I believe shierke will either find/discover this along the dragon path, or Betchi will take us there. Casca will likely play a part in this, perhaps a tear of joy lands on Betchi during her rescue. Or perhaps Guts finds this counter to the god hand by finally mastering the berserker armor ultra instinct style. We've been lead to think we know the only way to use the armor, but Hanar disagrees & warns Guts of the consequences of using the armor wrong, by showing him the blood memory. Although I've also entertained the thought that Griffith may not fall at all. Guts and the gang may make a clean get away without his defeat.
I feel stupid for thinking the old Band of the Hawk badge was what let Ricky do that
We don't know how he was able to land the blow. That's how Miura wrote. We don't know how Guts can lift the Dragonslayer. This TH-cam video is just speculation.
Griffith, and guts both are heroes, it will probably end in griffith doing smth good with falconia, dying in the war against the demons, guts will forgive him before he dies, and then guts and casca will live together till the end of time, then we will see griffith actually dying when he falls on that spike of wood before the eclipse
Rickert lies outside the laws of causality cus he wasn't part of the eclipse a sort of wildcard in the story
I like it