Good one! Pretty much how I do it. My last step is to spray diluted light oil with that thinner. I may only use my gun a couple of times a year and the oil stops that "sticky trigger" after sitting for a while.
A great step by step video! I am not a painter, but might one day try to spray some horrible job but at least will know the the right way to clean the gun out! Very easy to follow instructions.
that lube is about 15 bucks out the door but that bottle will last many years, good video,thanks for showing us that info,most ppl dont use the lube,they just put it in dry
You're welcome Marcelo. I'll throw that bit of info in an upcoming painting video. For now though here's one that may help - th-cam.com/video/CSGAgAyeInA/w-d-xo.html
Great tutorial Jerry!! I've never seen it done before. Never thought to pull the trigger to keep the needle from rubbing or setting the needle to wide open during re-assembly. I like to clean the cup and get thinner through the gun right after spraying, loosen the aircap, cover with a rag and spray into the rag so it bubbles back into the cup. Then remove the aircap and give the needle and cap a quick wipe before heading out into clean air. Seems to help a lot when it's time to really clean it. Feel free to "school me" if any of this is wrong. Hope you're enjoying the summer weather! Larry
You're method sounds good - my dad used to run his finger back and forth over the air cap to sort of back flush the pickup tube - I also did it for years but stopped because I read or heard somewhere that it can force paint/etc. in places that it shouldn't be. I can't find anything on that now and not sure where I heard/read it but it's something to think about. Other than that - if your gun sprays fine after how you clean it, your doing it right. Hope you're having a great summer to my friend :)
I saw on Eastwood video a old one with Kevin Tetz he said to use a 1.6 for primer sealer I am gonna use a 1.7 when I get more primer sealer in the mail. Am gonna use 1.4 tip for basecoat.
A Shur-Shot sprayer works great too. You pull the trigger on the gun and then the trigger on the Shur-Shot and the spray comes out of the nozzle in a strong stream. Also, the power of the Shur-Shot does great at cleaning both the spray gun and the aircap. Wipe with a microfiber towel from Costco and you're good to go after lubricating the needle with spray gun lube.
He provides a great overall process, however the order of operations is incorrect IMHO. The needle should be pulled first. Leaving it in increases the chances of damaging the tip as you take off the air caps and put them back on. I always do the take off/put on in this order: pull needle, remove air caps, remove cup to soak upper and lower threads more easily, put cups back on, put air caps back on, lastly put needle back in (with oil but about 1-1.5” back from tip. Don’t put at the tip!). I spray a lot and clean gun probably 3-5x a day.
If you pull the trigger back a bit you'll protect both the needle & nozzle. Like you said though, it's good to make sure those parts stay in good condition. Thanks for the comment my friend and have a good weekend :)
Honestly one of the best autobody TH-cam content channels! Before I go I have a question. Any possible chance you can do a video on what to do when your car is peeling or flaking big pieces of paint. My car looks like a spotted cheeta. Im not sure if its a defect in the white paint. But now its exposing the primer or sealer under it. And dont know what to do. Someone told me take a putty knife and go all over the car taking all the paint of thats peeling. Then sand it, primer it, seal it and shoot it with paint. Anyways any input appreciated.Keep up the great work rolling Lakeside.
Thanks EZ - I appreciate the support. You could use the putty knife or skip that step and go right to the DA sander. Start with 120 and if that doesn't feather edge the different layers fast enough then you can even use 80 first. The idea is to remove the damaged paint or clear coat - what ever is flaking, feather edge or smooth everything out, prime it, block sand it where the different thicknesses where or block the whole car/truck, prime again, finish sand, seal and paint - you can skip the sealer if you want. Hope that helps a bit if not ask more ?s. I'll try to find a video that might help with that. Have a good week end my friend - Jerry
That would make me nervous putting lube on it glad you mentioned it doesn’t cause fish eyes. When I had a wood shop we only used certain lubricates to prevent them.
I have heard that you could put spray gun in parts in cup of acetone over night if the has been neglected and that would be very helpful for next day cleaning is this true?
Lacquer thinner is the cleaner of choice when it comes to neglected guns - at least it was at the shops I worked at. Maybe acetone works too but I believe lacquer thinner is the strongest of all the thinners and/or reducers :)
OK, now that I have had a taste of painting, I'm thinking about something a little more ambitious. Overall my truck looks pretty good, but it has been a couple of years since I buffed out scratches, and I've picked up a chip or two that I want to fix. I can fix the chips easily enough, but can I spray a new coat of clear over the existing clear coat? I imagine I would need to scuff the original paint to 800 or so first, right? Is this done by body shops, or is it a waste of time?
@@LakesideAutobody Cool, thanks! I''ll talk to the paint supplier, see what they suggest for the clear. Most likely will be the same as I already used...
I thought you always remove the needle BEFORE removing the nozzle. Then screw nozzle back on and insert lubed needle. It prevents damaging the needle tip as I was taught.
great vid , just used a spray gun for the first time and not a bad job, lots to think about at first, we used 2K paint, tried washing out the gun with standard thinners and it would remove or dilute the paint ! is there thinners just for 2K ? many thanks
Use urethane reducer for mixing and spraying the paint and lacquer thinner to clean the gun with - it's a bit cheaper. Get it at Home Depot for like $20
No. There really is nothing or no paint, primer, clear or sealer that reacts negatively to lacquer thinner. Lacquer thinner cuts/cleans everything and doesn't curdle, gum up, etc. If you are concerned just let some air blow through the gun for a few seconds before using again :)
In speaking about spray guns. What is the difference between HTE and HVLP? Do they spray alot different from each other? What do you think about the Black Widow HTE spray gun by spectrum?
Simply put HTE is the latest technology for getting the most paint on a vehicle with the least amount of waste/overspray/air pressure/etc. HVLP and conventional guns are considered "old fashioned" I have the Spectrum HVLP gun from HF and it sprays really well but I don't have the HTE gun from BW. I don't think you will be disappointed by purchasing either of the HTE or HVLP Black Widows and they will both spray very nicely. The only difference you may notice is how much air one uses as compared to the other. The HVLP gun will use more air volume IOW you will need a bigger compressor for large jobs :)
@@LakesideAutobody Hey do you think the Black Widow HTE will be easier to get a good finish rather than the cheapy purple harbor freight HVLP spray gun? Do you think the Black Widow will atomize the base and clear better and get less orange peel?
@@LakesideAutobody So far so good. I have run into a few problems. The spray gun was "surging" on my second base coat. I figured out that it was the strainer/filter between the cup and the gun, so I removed it, and the third coat sprayed out beautifly... Except for the cap leaking (stupid Campbell Hausfeld). Oh, that and a four inch long hose drag which was totally my fault. Anyway, I sanded out the drips, I had one run to sand out, and I fixed the hose drag. I scuffed with a red pad, tack clothed, and sprayed a tack coat of base. Waited 15 then a medium coat that I just finished. So we'll see how it goes from here. Oh, and yes, I am having a blast! Thanks for your help!
Final report: Two coats of clear later, and I am actually pretty impressed. I think I did about as well as anyone could, painting under a 10x10 canopy in my back yard! In a week or two I'll cut and buff it, and it should look even better! There are a few fisheyes, and a couple of bits of trash in it, but it came out remarkable clean considering the environment I had to work in. And for it being the first car painting I have ever done, lol!
@@SomeGuyInSandy You are awesome! I love hearing stuff like that. You can only get better from here. There's always going to be a few things that go wrong - that's par for the course my friend. Keep me posted on the buffing process and any other projects SGS - again thanks for the comments and stories :)
Nice video . There’s a spray bottle that holds Lacquer thinner . Just like the one ever ones Uses for the prep all . It save you time money and safety all in one bottle. That’s the one I used. I clean my gun with in 3 minutes go grab a beer and start the grill cowboys 🤠
@@LakesideAutobody Jerry make a video all about Safety . There’s too many videos out there with guys not using their safety equipment . All it takes is a split second no more I know more finger . I have 30 years of industrial experience the first thing I think about when I step into a building is what can kill me
@@hobbyautobodyfun9315 Excellent idea my friend - I'll do that for sure. If you have any dangers that I would be surprised by or wouldn't know about - like rags w/ linseed oil bursting into flames, etc - let me know :)
Absolutely agree - 100%. Not sure why I don't like it but I don't - that's something a shrink would know though I think... because it's not that hard but I dread it :)
You are an awesome man. The world needs more people like you.
Thanks a lot Steve - I appreciate your kind words. Have a good weekend my friend :)
Good one! Pretty much how I do it. My last step is to spray diluted light oil with that thinner. I may only use my gun a couple of times a year and the oil stops that "sticky trigger" after sitting for a while.
Thanks GB - have a good weekend :)
@@geobrown9413 which oil do you use?
@@Pmpt84 Any light oil will do. like ATF or hydraulic oil.
A great step by step video! I am not a painter, but might one day try to spray some horrible job but at least will know the the right way to clean the gun out! Very easy to follow instructions.
I did not know about spray gun lube. Thanks for another good video.
...I'm embarrassed to admit that neither did I, and yes I'm a "noob", but hey: Smarter EVERY Day.
Excellent, right to the point- very helpful to anyone that wants their gun to LAST and give consistent spraying goodness. THANKS mate.
You're welcome my friend - enjoy the weekend :)
that lube is about 15 bucks out the door but that bottle will last many years, good video,thanks for showing us that info,most ppl dont use the lube,they just put it in dry
Great Video thanks ! We need a short video of your Compressor Setup with the MotorGuard Filter and Air Hoses
You're welcome Marcelo. I'll throw that bit of info in an upcoming painting video. For now though here's one that may help - th-cam.com/video/CSGAgAyeInA/w-d-xo.html
Great tutorial Jerry!! I've never seen it done before. Never thought to pull the trigger to keep the needle from rubbing or setting the needle to wide open during re-assembly. I like to clean the cup and get thinner through the gun right after spraying, loosen the aircap, cover with a rag and spray into the rag so it bubbles back into the cup. Then remove the aircap and give the needle and cap a quick wipe before heading out into clean air. Seems to help a lot when it's time to really clean it. Feel free to "school me" if any of this is wrong. Hope you're enjoying the summer weather! Larry
You're method sounds good - my dad used to run his finger back and forth over the air cap to sort of back flush the pickup tube - I also did it for years but stopped because I read or heard somewhere that it can force paint/etc. in places that it shouldn't be. I can't find anything on that now and not sure where I heard/read it but it's something to think about. Other than that - if your gun sprays fine after how you clean it, your doing it right. Hope you're having a great summer to my friend :)
I saw on Eastwood video a old one with Kevin Tetz he said to use a 1.6 for primer sealer I am gonna use a 1.7 when I get more primer sealer in the mail. Am gonna use 1.4 tip for basecoat.
Nice job... Jerry cleanliness is close to Godliness! Have a great weekend!
You too my friend - good to hear from you :)
I like the 3M cleaner. I was using Acetone. I'll be using thinner frome now on.
A Shur-Shot sprayer works great too. You pull the trigger on the gun and then the trigger on the Shur-Shot and the spray comes out of the nozzle in a strong stream. Also, the power of the Shur-Shot does great at cleaning both the spray gun and the aircap. Wipe with a microfiber towel from Costco and you're good to go after lubricating the needle with spray gun lube.
Hi Sataman S - good to hear from you my friend - hope all is going well for you :)
The 3m cleaner is pretty much acetone with co2 as propellant. Lacquer thinner doesn't evaporate as fast as acetone.
@@LakesideAutobody I really enjoy your videos. I'm by far no expert however your videos are making me a lot better. Keep up the GREAT work 👍
@@1patriotman973 That makes my day - I appreciate the support my friend - I'll keep them coming :)
Great demonstration and easy to follow Jerry!
Thanks 👍 UPK - Hope all is well with you my friend :)
@@LakesideAutobody all is well Jerry I hope all is well with you also 👍🏾
Good tips, Jerry! 👍
I appreciate the support Tony :)
I love the video on the spray gun cleaning tips Jerry thanks 👍💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
You're welcome Vicshone :)
Good video on how to clean your spray gun
He provides a great overall process, however the order of operations is incorrect IMHO. The needle should be pulled first. Leaving it in increases the chances of damaging the tip as you take off the air caps and put them back on. I always do the take off/put on in this order: pull needle, remove air caps, remove cup to soak upper and lower threads more easily, put cups back on, put air caps back on, lastly put needle back in (with oil but about 1-1.5” back from tip. Don’t put at the tip!). I spray a lot and clean gun probably 3-5x a day.
If you pull the trigger back a bit you'll protect both the needle & nozzle. Like you said though, it's good to make sure those parts stay in good condition. Thanks for the comment my friend and have a good weekend :)
Always remove the needle before undoing the tip and replace the tip then inset the needle, this reduces any risk of damaging the needle.
Honestly one of the best autobody TH-cam content channels! Before I go I have a question. Any possible chance you can do a video on what to do when your car is peeling or flaking big pieces of paint. My car looks like a spotted cheeta. Im not sure if its a defect in the white paint. But now its exposing the primer or sealer under it. And dont know what to do. Someone told me take a putty knife and go all over the car taking all the paint of thats peeling. Then sand it, primer it, seal it and shoot it with paint. Anyways any input appreciated.Keep up the great work rolling Lakeside.
Thanks EZ - I appreciate the support. You could use the putty knife or skip that step and go right to the DA sander. Start with 120 and if that doesn't feather edge the different layers fast enough then you can even use 80 first. The idea is to remove the damaged paint or clear coat - what ever is flaking, feather edge or smooth everything out, prime it, block sand it where the different thicknesses where or block the whole car/truck, prime again, finish sand, seal and paint - you can skip the sealer if you want. Hope that helps a bit if not ask more ?s. I'll try to find a video that might help with that. Have a good week end my friend - Jerry
That would make me nervous putting lube on it glad you mentioned it doesn’t cause fish eyes. When I had a wood shop we only used certain lubricates to prevent them.
It makes me nervous too but it never causes any issues. Must be specially made for spray guns :)
I’ve bought a used paint gun which has quite a bit of dried paint in and on it anything other than lacquer to clean it thank you
You're welcome 😊
Great tips Jerry.
Thanks PSG - have a great weekend :)
Have you tried ultrasonic on paint guns yet?
No - any good?
@@LakesideAutobody I'll let ya know on Tuesday when the machine arrives. It should work really well.
I have heard that you could put spray gun in parts in cup of acetone over night if the has been neglected and that would be very helpful for next day cleaning is this true?
Lacquer thinner is the cleaner of choice when it comes to neglected guns - at least it was at the shops I worked at. Maybe acetone works too but I believe lacquer thinner is the strongest of all the thinners and/or reducers :)
Thanks for sharing a lot of great tips Jerry.
You're welcome Bluesman - have a great week :)
Jerry quick question what type of paint are spray guns painted with that makes them resistant to reducer etc ?
Great question - I have thought of that myself a few times. What ever it is - it's one tough coating - if you find out let me know :)
OK, now that I have had a taste of painting, I'm thinking about something a little more ambitious.
Overall my truck looks pretty good, but it has been a couple of years since I buffed out scratches, and I've picked up a chip or two that I want to fix. I can fix the chips easily enough, but can I spray a new coat of clear over the existing clear coat? I imagine I would need to scuff the original paint to 800 or so first, right? Is this done by body shops, or is it a waste of time?
Yes body shops do that and you have the right procedure in mind. You won't be able to see the sand scratches - if worried use 1500 or finer.
@@LakesideAutobody Cool, thanks! I''ll talk to the paint supplier, see what they suggest for the clear. Most likely will be the same as I already used...
I thought you always remove the needle BEFORE removing the nozzle. Then screw nozzle back on and insert lubed needle. It prevents damaging the needle tip as I was taught.
You can do that or just squeeze the trigger while removing the air cap - pulling the needle away from it. You're right though :)
great vid , just used a spray gun for the first time and not a bad job, lots to think about at first, we used 2K paint, tried washing out the gun with standard thinners and it would remove or dilute the paint ! is there thinners just for 2K ? many thanks
Use urethane reducer for mixing and spraying the paint and lacquer thinner to clean the gun with - it's a bit cheaper. Get it at Home Depot for like $20
After the last step where you sprayed the thinner through the gun do you need to wait to use the gun again?
No. There really is nothing or no paint, primer, clear or sealer that reacts negatively to lacquer thinner. Lacquer thinner cuts/cleans everything and doesn't curdle, gum up, etc. If you are concerned just let some air blow through the gun for a few seconds before using again :)
@@LakesideAutobody good deal. Thank you for the info.
Best video youll find thanks.
Thanks Whitestar - enjoy the rest of the week :)
Thanks for sharing Jerry 👍 nice and easy
You're welcome Luis - have a good weekend my friend :)
In speaking about spray guns. What is the difference between HTE and HVLP? Do they spray alot different from each other? What do you think about the Black Widow HTE spray gun by spectrum?
Simply put HTE is the latest technology for getting the most paint on a vehicle with the least amount of waste/overspray/air pressure/etc. HVLP and conventional guns are considered "old fashioned" I have the Spectrum HVLP gun from HF and it sprays really well but I don't have the HTE gun from BW. I don't think you will be disappointed by purchasing either of the HTE or HVLP Black Widows and they will both spray very nicely. The only difference you may notice is how much air one uses as compared to the other. The HVLP gun will use more air volume IOW you will need a bigger compressor for large jobs :)
@@LakesideAutobody Awesome and thanks!
@@LakesideAutobody Hey do you think the Black Widow HTE will be easier to get a good finish rather than the cheapy purple harbor freight HVLP spray gun? Do you think the Black Widow will atomize the base and clear better and get less orange peel?
👍🏻 Thanks for the helpful tips! Do you know if box store lacquer thinner would be fine for this task?
Works just fine - like from H Depot. I use it to thin primer too - works very well :)
@@LakesideAutobody Yes! It does thin 2k primer surfacer perfectly fine with no problem!
Thanks for the tips.
You're welcome :)
Perfect timing! I need to pick up a cleaning kit in the morning. Thanks!
You're welcome SGS - have a good weekend 😊
@@LakesideAutobody So far so good. I have run into a few problems. The spray gun was "surging" on my second base coat. I figured out that it was the strainer/filter between the cup and the gun, so I removed it, and the third coat sprayed out beautifly... Except for the cap leaking (stupid Campbell Hausfeld). Oh, that and a four inch long hose drag which was totally my fault. Anyway, I sanded out the drips, I had one run to sand out, and I fixed the hose drag.
I scuffed with a red pad, tack clothed, and sprayed a tack coat of base. Waited 15 then a medium coat that I just finished. So we'll see how it goes from here. Oh, and yes, I am having a blast! Thanks for your help!
Final report: Two coats of clear later, and I am actually pretty impressed. I think I did about as well as anyone could, painting under a 10x10 canopy in my back yard!
In a week or two I'll cut and buff it, and it should look even better! There are a few fisheyes, and a couple of bits of trash in it, but it came out remarkable clean considering the environment I had to work in. And for it being the first car painting I have ever done, lol!
@@SomeGuyInSandy You are awesome! I love hearing stuff like that. You can only get better from here. There's always going to be a few things that go wrong - that's par for the course my friend. Keep me posted on the buffing process and any other projects SGS - again thanks for the comments and stories :)
@@LakesideAutobody I'll take lucky over awesome anytime, thanks! :)
Nice video . There’s a spray bottle that holds Lacquer thinner . Just like the one ever ones Uses for the prep all . It save you time money and safety all in one bottle. That’s the one I used. I clean my gun with in 3 minutes go grab a beer and start the grill cowboys 🤠
Great information HAF - thanks 👍🔥🛠
@@LakesideAutobody Jerry make a video all about Safety . There’s too many videos out there with guys not using their safety equipment . All it takes is a split second no more I know more finger . I have 30 years of industrial experience the first thing I think about when I step into a building is what can kill me
@@LakesideAutobody one 5 minute safety meeting in the morning every day . Say to everyone be careful out there your family waiting for you at home .
@@hobbyautobodyfun9315 Excellent idea my friend - I'll do that for sure. If you have any dangers that I would be surprised by or wouldn't know about - like rags w/ linseed oil bursting into flames, etc - let me know :)
@@LakesideAutobody Muriatic acid that thing is the most dangerous product that you can actually buy . Why there selling it I have no idea
What kind of rubber gloves do you use?
Those are Hardy 57159 XXL from Harbor Freight. If you can, try them on before you buy to make sure they fit you well.
@@LakesideAutobody thanks I will see if I can try them on. I have been looking for gloves that won’t be eaten by thinner.
@@BigBarnV1 These handle the chemicals pretty well.
Another Great video
Thank Brad - have a good weekend :)
good stuff. thanks for sharing.
You're welcome Wes - have a good weekend :)
My least favorite job. If I ever win the lottery I'll still paint cars, I'll hire someone to clean up after me though hahahaha
Absolutely agree - 100%. Not sure why I don't like it but I don't - that's something a shrink would know though I think... because it's not that hard but I dread it :)
😎✌️🖖👌👍🤓
You're demonstrating on a clean gun?? Lol...ohhhhkay...?? 🤔
You do the same process on a gun that was used :)
Unavoidable toxicities every time a gun is cleaned
True. That's why I like the 3M Performance Spray Gun - wipe the needle and you're done.
@@LakesideAutobody I like using 2k activated spray cans followed by paint correction
Great demonstration and easy to follow Jerry!
Thanks 👍
Great demonstration and easy to follow Jerry!
Thanks for checking it out UPK - have a good one my friend :)
@@LakesideAutobody have a good weekend Jerry!