This is the best daily trainer ever (IMO). Most comfortable, responsive, easy on the legs for the longer miles, and that Puma grip is good enough to even take it on the trails as well.
@@Sen-ki- its by far a more superior shoe! You cant compare the quality difference between them! They cant even compare in my opinion! Buy the puma and you will see…
After so many rave reviews on TH-cam, I took upon my wife’s kind offer to gift me a pair-since she herself was buying a pair for herself. Couldn’t have been prouder of my decision to accept. What a shoe! Completely blew me away and really matched the reviews! Color, performance, feel, grip, upper, etc. it’s snug on my left foot (it’s a tad wide), but not to the point of bothersome. I’m not a marathon runner, so it’s adequate for my below 20k distances.
I somehow managed to get my Puma Deviate Nitro 2 for $96 back in December. Maybe Puma was having some holiday sale at that point. I agree that $160 is a bit much and when I saw the price drop, I went for it. I'm glad I did since it has been my favorite shoe so far this year. That Puma grip is hard to beat. I'm glad you recommended this over the Adidas Boston 11 since I was kind of looking at that shoe and this one.
got mine on 43% discount. to me, deviate 2 > novablast 3. my problem with novablast 3 is the colorway is terrible 😅 with that discount, deviate 2 is 👑 IMO
This is currently my favourite shoe to train in and I love picking up the pace which is easily achieved in this shoe without sacrificing comfort. The only other shoe that I love to train in that’s similar for me is the Saucony Endorphin Speed. I am so impressed by the ND2 you are spot on with this review!
I saw lots of Reviews, in my native language portuguese and also english. Your analisis and coments was precise. Only 25km on my feet, but great feeling. Sale BF in puma Brazil (nov24). I payd 85,00 Usd. A real bargain for a great shoe. Greetings from 🇧🇷.
Love your channel. I have gone back almost a year and watch most of your videos. Thanks. Regarding Puma D Nitro 2. I ordered a pair and got the Wide at a discount. Fits well and so far loving it. I did some research and the website says the wide is a completely different shoe. It has all Nitro Elite foam verse the blend of Nitro and Elite. Also it says it is a fiber composite verse a true carbon fiber plate. Not sure if it is true. But that is how they are listed.
I'm a huge fan of this shoe for workouts. It's a perfect balance for me, it's comfortable enough for warm up/cool down miles, responsive enough for faster efforts, and durable enough with the puma grip to get tons of miles out of it.
@@mibsammalik1614 It's not as responsive as a true super shoe, but it's still great. I think for training runs I really don't mind a little heavier shoe that will last a long time. The thing I love most about the Deviate Nitro 2 is it's really a jack of all trades.
I love this shoe. Purchased this for £105 in the UK. I used this for races and my speed/tempo sessions. Compliments well with my Velocity 2. I was an avid Boston fan, until they totally changed it from v10. So Puma pretty much rescued me.
So are you using same size with Velocity 2? Because I went size down from my normal size while purchasing Velocity 2. If it is narrow, Maybe I have to order size up
I don't typically care about the upper of a shoe, but this is an exception. By far, the most comfortable upper I've ever worn. Midsole is comfortable, but also responsive. And Pumagrip is incredible. At 200 miles, I choose this shoe for a wide range of runs, especially because any day that involves wet roads, this is by far the best shoe I have. I've raced a half marathon in the rain in this shoe and got the victory! Then I chose this one for a 5k race that involved road, grass, and caliche gravel, and the shoe went to 2 for 2 in races with another victory. For me, this shoe's versatility makes it truly exceptional for folks who might have 3-5 shoes in the rotation.
Just picked this up 2 days ago at a very good sale price in my country and had an enjoyable run with it yesterday. Yeah good to see this review here by kofuzi himself.
The Deviate Nitro 2 is my first plated shoe. Definitely worth it at 30% off MRSP during a recent holiday sale in Singapore. I had been resisting carbon-plated shoes because I figured I should just do old-school until I become a seasoned runner (coming up on my one-year runniversary), but I liked the idea of the composite plate. It may be my imagination, but compared to Peg 39s, this shoe really seems to deliver in the energy-return category! I've done a bit of speed work with it and mainly tempo runs. Running purely on feel, I'm getting 5:15 minutes/km in these vs. around 5:30/km in the Pegs at the same RPE. Placebo effect? Maybe, but I'm enjoying the speed--wherever it comes from. I went up half a size due to length rather than width issues. 9 1/2 is slightly roomy in the toe box but 9 would have left very little room at the front.
Not placebo dear friend, i totally agree with you. Enjoyable, great cushion and energy return without it feeling strange or over-bouncy. You become faster with the same effort and also less tired. Cheers from Greece.
Welcome to the "teched-up" runing world my friend. It's definitely not placebo, you're just late into the party. I used to be all about max cushion shoes for easy long runs until some of it was too damn soft and "cushiony" that I started to develop foot pain at the bottom of my feet. One shoe that didn't cause that to me was my cloudmonster and it was the only shoe that had the speedboard in there and being slightly more firm and rigid than others. So I made the leap of faith, picked endorphin speed 3 and it totally turned my perception of runing shoe world upside down. These days most brands are offering that formular since the ES3 is so damn successful and popular. Racing foam+daily foam+slightly more flexible/less rigid plate/rods and more durable/comfortable upper. It's a package that packs the fun of super shoes ,allow the option to pick the pace, but is still nice enough to run for easy day and recovery days. The real challenge in these shoes for me was to constantly remind myself to not go hard on it. Keep telling myself to slow down and maintain the pace because they're that much fun you unintentionally up the pace before you know it. That's ok for a work out but not on easy days.
After 55kms on the Deviate Nitro 2, the word that best describes this shoe is versatility. It accepts any type of workout (or race) you want to do on it. It's not as light as the Hoka Rincon 3 or New Balance Beacon 3 (other super versatiles shoes), but it's sturdier and has a better grip.
DN 2 is my current fav shoe. I use it for tempo, fartlek, interval & long run on weekend. 100++ km and still fresh on feet like a brand new one. Can't wait to try DN Elite 2.
@@dennykristianto8123 I use DN 2 for long run ( >15 km ) at weekend & on interval/tempo on thursday. So far so good. Outsole grip still great & the foam is still as bouncy as new.
US 9.5 here and yes, it's really snug for me as well. And I don't know if it's that, the stiffness of the plate, or a combination of both, but I find it to be really harsh on my forefoot/toes. Dua/Triathletes who compete in local races passing through forest trails and what have you should definitely give Puma (in general) a look; their traction is second to none.
I really love this she and during the winter when i knew it was a bit slushy etc outside i could run in it. I even ran in 2 inches of snow in this and had no slippage. I wish they would bring the goretx version over from europe/asia
Just had to get another pair.. my first pair is almost 2 yrs old, still feels as good as day 1, but I couldnt resist the 45$ price for a pair today. Probably one of the best shoes of all time.
Glad to see your review of the Deviate Nitro 2. It's my favorite all-round running shoe - a jack-of-all-trades that can do almost everything very well. Due to its awesome outsole, I also like it for going on smooth mild trails. It can do speed workouts, daily runs, and easy long runs and transition between them smoothly. It doesn't do any one thing *extremely* well like, say, a Prime X Strung for long tempo runs or Vaporfly 2/3 and the Takumi Sen 8/9 for all-out speed workouts and races or the More v4 and Nimbus 25 for easy/recovery, but it does everything well enough. As you say, hard to categorize. I went half-size up and that worked out well but then got a second pair in EE size and that worked out even better. To me, the DN2 is a great workhorse shoe. It's not the most exciting shoe and the ride feels a bit muted, but it's comfortable and chugs along nicely when you just want to put in some quality miles.
Could you elaborate on what you mean by " It's not the most exciting shoe and the ride feels a bit muted". Which other shoe you recommend as an exciting shoe?
@@thurules For excitement, speed, and fun factor, I prefer the Adidas Adizero shoes with Lightstrike Pro midsole - Prime X Strung 1/2, Adios Pro 3, Takumi Sen 8/9, and Boston 12. They just have more of the "wow" factor in terms of propulsion, responsiveness, energy return, and fast turnover. The New Balance FuelCell shoes like the SC Elite v4/3 , SC Trainer v2/1 and the Rebel v4/3 are also very bouncy and fun. They are noticeably softer (except for SC Elite v4) and not as responsive as the Adizero shoes IMO, but they are more comfortable. The Puma shoes have that "old school" feel and ride. They are not as assistive as the Adizero or the high-performance FuelCell shoes but are more robust with a workhorse type of reliable quality to them. To use a general car analogy, the Adizero shoes (and Nike Alphafly 3 and Vaporlfy 3/2) are like race sports cars - exciting but not always very comfortable. The NB shoes are like high performance sedans - plush with a focus on comfort. Puma shoes are like high performance trucks - solid, reliable, durable, super grippy for all types of terrains and weather conditions, and has a chugging type of ride than bouncing you forward. I love them all for experiencing different feel and rides at various paces and for various distances. Adidas, NB, and Puma are my three favorite brands with Nike's AF3 and VF3 added for top tier racing shoes. ASICS, Saucony, and Hoka make some nice shoes as well, but I just didn't like them as much as the Adidas, NB, and Puma shoes. Hope this helps!
Was pleasantly surprised by this shoe, great grip in the wet, a quite lively midsole and the composite plate not too aggressive with the right amount of flexion ❤
I tried several brands of running shoes but always had plantar injuries repeatedly, and was able to recover from the plantar and run comfortably until now with Puma DN2
I got to demo the Deviate Nitro 2 at the Puma shakeout run before the Boston Marathon. I really like it, but it was too narrow. Fortunately, there is a wide version available online, so I ordered that with the 20% discount offer from the shakeout run. It fits perfectly now. It’s a very versatile shoe that does remind me of the Boston 9.
I love mine for long runs at pace, towards the end of a training block. They feel both cushy on long downhills and fast on the flat. Then I race in the Deviate Elites 👍
I love this shoe...the ultimate daily trainer. It can really handle all types of distances and speeds (excluding competitive racing speeds). IMO. this shoe and the Saucony Endo Speed 3 trade blows in the most-versatile-shoe matchup. I also agree with you on the slightly snug toe box, I must wear thinner socks else it gets somewhat uncomfortable after a long-ish run when my forefoot/toes swell.
Having wide feet myself, I found the regular version way too tight. Going with the wide version solved that problem for me though. So if you can find it, go with the wide version instead going up in size.
@@agingrich The length didn't feel any different to me. between the Normandy the wide versions. So if a 13 fits you length wise. 13 wide shouldn't be too big.
Would like to see more sales in USA ; I have found too many awesome models on sale from other brands to try these at full price . Thanks for critiquing the 160 price as the new standard for good daily trainers .
a great shoe, it's a bit awkward at first, but the shoes always focus on the heart After running for a week, the pair got used to the shoes, really like it and beautiful
I just picked up a pair for the Bayshore half marathon next weekend! I got the royal sapphire color way (very limited color options at the Fleet Feet I work at) but I absolutely love the look of yours. I'm usually an 8.5 in every shoe but I sized up to a 9 for these, they definitely run small
I had the Deviate 2, liked the upper, but the midsole just felt sooo flat and too stiff for me - I found it very confusing to run in, it felt like I couldn't roll off the toes at all. I also found that cutout in the midsole was a vacuum for stones. I ended up selling it and replaced it with the Hyperion max which I'm really enjoying. Everyone responds differently to shoes. In AU/NZ the puma is also a chunk more expensive than the Brooks too, and Brooks are often on sale but Pumas never are.
ok so I posted that 9 months ago, the puma are always on sale now 😂. I really like the roll off the toes on the Mach 5 and the Novablast 4 is my go to shoe at the moment@@thurules
I bought mine back in Jan and has been my go to daily shoe. Too bad my feet grew and my TTS of US9 is no longer comfy (i have high in-step) and have to go half size up already. But overall i love this shoe!!
70% carbon plate. The upper doesn't have a lot of volume, with a snug fit, but that is Puma, which is pretty standard for a European shoe. I use it as a daily trainer with some speed sessions. I would pair this with the Puma velocity Nitro. Also, Puma offers great discounts, so you should easily get the shoe with at least 20% discount.
Sitting here drinking coffee ☕ from my Kofuzi mug 😁...haven't ran in a pair of Pumas since 95. Wasn't impressed then. That being said looking forward to watching this...on we go...
Only £70 in UK now on sale. I thought the £100 I paid a few months ago was a good buy - I really like them - comfort, responsiveness, stability, and quite protective of legs. Fairly fast although not an all out racer by any means. Definitely more sprightly than the velocity 2s.
@@morlo66 A couple of places, but some have very limited sizes - up and running had 13s only, sports direct had many sizes, though the sizes (and colour) tell me they may be women's - if there is a difference! (outlet) - they also have the black ones (usually cheaper) for £82.50 in many mens sizes, but I think any price under £100 is good for these tbh - I really like them.
How i wish i saw this video before buying my pair. all good till about the half marathon and the lower volume in the forefoot really gives my toes a pounding
🎉Personally, for a daily trainer, i would prefer a non-plated shoe just to get some variety for the foot. If i were to get a shoe with a plate, I would just get a racing shoe since they last so much longer nowadays anyway.
including a plate in a non-racing shoe is a double edged sword. putting a plate in a shoe can attract some customers while deterring others. but I generally think of plates in non-racing shoes as stability elements. like a Mizuno wave plate or an Adidas LEP system.
My combo is Deviate for daily training and workouts, Triumph 20 for really easy and long runs, Saucony Endorphin Pro 3 for racing. What do u think? Ah, my usual size is 11 (Saucony, Hoka, Adidas...) but 10,5 in this shoes is perfect for me.
Kofuzi, my question is. Do you prefer adidas adizero sl for a long run or puma deviate nitro 2?? Because. I really found that adidas adizero SL is comfortable and felt good for speed. But puma is comfy too and it has the balance and speed too in there. Thank you. Because adidas is on sale in Bali now. For $96 as you mentioned for that colorful one.
how does this shoe compare with novablast 3. I have novablast 3 and have run about 500km in it. looking for another upgrade. but not sure how to use this puma shoe.
They overlap quite a bit in terms of use case. The novablast is geared a bit more towards daily training where the Devaite 2 is more capable of full workouts
Why not compare it to the Endorphin Speed? Racing foam for racing foam, plated (semi), uptempo daily trainer (sorry saucony I know you hate that), and speed shoe. For the exact same price
I know that it’s not in the same category, but do you have any opinion on how the Puma Deviate Nitro 2 compares with the Asics Superblast in terms of speed and comfort? I need a shoe for my faster workouts but I won’t need it for anything too hardcore. I’m still a beginner, but I’d want to get something a tad faster than my Asics Novablast 4, for the 5k speed workouts and I found the Superblast and Deviate Nitro 2 at a discount. Thanks 😊
Puma rep said the upcoming Magnify Nitro 2 has a wider toe box due to the more anatomical last, just FYI. What shoes would you recommend for recovery runs and distances of 5-8 miles, tops? Ideally something cushioned but bouncy. FWIW, I found the Glycerin 20 cushioned but dull; felt like a memory foam mattress.
I currently have the Puma Deviate Nitro 2 as a workout and tempo shoe. I am pairing it with Nimbus 25 for my recovery and easy run. Would you recommend Puma Deviate Nitro 2 for a full marathon? Hope to hear from you.
I’ve loved mine. Got my 5k pb in them in feb (19:56). Ran a marathon in them recently and the last hour my feet hurt a bit. Do you think these are a marathon shoe?
I find it quite stable for walking as well. But keep in mind you might start feeling the plate in the heel after about an hour or so because it is really high up, close to the foot in the heel.
Thanks for the video. I'm looking for some advice. I've been running on the cumulus 24 as my daily trainer. I use that for distances from 10k to 15k, usually at easyto medium paces. I'm looking for a 2nd pair in my rotation with a bit more responsive ride as a daily trainer. Am heavily contemplating the deviate nitro 2. Went to test it out and it feels good but one concern that I had was that I felt my feet tilting a little inward as i land as compared to the usual flat landing that i feel with my cumulus 24. Is that feeling normal for this shoe and is it okay? A 2nd alternative im looking at is the forever run nitro.
Im not going to use them for running , but for keep fit classes , what do you recommend the one you are reviewing on the video or the elite deviate elite. Ty
For a new runner pace 8:30min/km (13:47min/miles), do you think the DN2 will be a good choice or otherwise. Currently training with Noosa Tri 14 for all of my runs. Was told the noosa feel is similar to a plated (could be wrong). Hope to get your insight!
And what I mean by that is I evaluate and recommend shoes based on what you want to do with the shoe (easy run, long run, speed work, etc) and not how fast you do it
This is the best daily trainer ever (IMO). Most comfortable, responsive, easy on the legs for the longer miles, and that Puma grip is good enough to even take it on the trails as well.
I can say something similar; it's my favorite right now, for sure. It is just superb in every category that matters to me.
I have so many expensive shoes from every brand…. But this is my favorite one by far!!!! Great shoe!
How do you think it compares to the Propel V4 ? I'm thinking of buying a new pair of shoes but kind of split between the two.
@@Sen-ki- its by far a more superior shoe! You cant compare the quality difference between them! They cant even compare in my opinion! Buy the puma and you will see…
Could not agree more!
You where/are spot on about these trainers! After your praise I bought myself a pair. Straight out of the box they hit the mark, PB 5k of the year.
After so many rave reviews on TH-cam, I took upon my wife’s kind offer to gift me a pair-since she herself was buying a pair for herself. Couldn’t have been prouder of my decision to accept. What a shoe! Completely blew me away and really matched the reviews! Color, performance, feel, grip, upper, etc. it’s snug on my left foot (it’s a tad wide), but not to the point of bothersome. I’m not a marathon runner, so it’s adequate for my below 20k distances.
Lesson here is to always listen to your wife
@@kofuzi LOL 😂
I somehow managed to get my Puma Deviate Nitro 2 for $96 back in December. Maybe Puma was having some holiday sale at that point. I agree that $160 is a bit much and when I saw the price drop, I went for it. I'm glad I did since it has been my favorite shoe so far this year. That Puma grip is hard to beat. I'm glad you recommended this over the Adidas Boston 11 since I was kind of looking at that shoe and this one.
The Boston has lost its way the last two years
got mine on 43% discount. to me, deviate 2 > novablast 3. my problem with novablast 3 is the colorway is terrible 😅 with that discount, deviate 2 is 👑 IMO
@kofuzi should i buy deviate nitro 2 or deviate nitro elite one (same price)to use as tempo and FM race day?tq
This is currently my favourite shoe to train in and I love picking up the pace which is easily achieved in this shoe without sacrificing comfort. The only other shoe that I love to train in that’s similar for me is the Saucony Endorphin Speed. I am so impressed by the ND2 you are spot on with this review!
I agree, the Diviate Nitro 2 is my favorite running shoe from Puma. Works great on urban trails too.
My fave shoe of 2023 so far! So glad you’re enjoying them too!
I saw lots of Reviews, in my native language portuguese and also english. Your analisis and coments was precise.
Only 25km on my feet, but great feeling.
Sale BF in puma Brazil (nov24). I payd 85,00 Usd. A real bargain for a great shoe.
Greetings from 🇧🇷.
Love your channel. I have gone back almost a year and watch most of your videos. Thanks.
Regarding Puma D Nitro 2. I ordered a pair and got the Wide at a discount. Fits well and so far loving it. I did some research and the website says the wide is a completely different shoe. It has all Nitro Elite foam verse the blend of Nitro and Elite. Also it says it is a fiber composite verse a true carbon fiber plate. Not sure if it is true. But that is how they are listed.
I'm not sure what you're looking at so I can't compare or comment. but perhaps you're looking at different model years?
I have even used it for lighter trail runs and backwoods gravel runs - gets a little warm but worth it -awesome shoe.
I'm a huge fan of this shoe for workouts. It's a perfect balance for me, it's comfortable enough for warm up/cool down miles, responsive enough for faster efforts, and durable enough with the puma grip to get tons of miles out of it.
Couldn’t agree more I’ve got loads of different shoes and onto my second pair of these 👍🏻
how responsive is it when running at a fast pace does it feel good?
@@mibsammalik1614 It's not as responsive as a true super shoe, but it's still great. I think for training runs I really don't mind a little heavier shoe that will last a long time. The thing I love most about the Deviate Nitro 2 is it's really a jack of all trades.
How do you find the sizing?
@@MR-pq7ywThe length is true to size for me but it's snug in the midfoot and my foot is pretty narrow.
Another brilliant review that has helped me decide to buy this running shoe. I love my Forever Runs. Puma have really stepped things up lately.
love how they look. ive never owned a puma in my life
Thanks for all the great reviews! Bought my first pair of Puma, Velocity Nitro 2, recently and am really enjoying them! Keep the reviews coming!! 😁😁
Thanks for watching!
I love this shoe. Purchased this for £105 in the UK. I used this for races and my speed/tempo sessions. Compliments well with my Velocity 2. I was an avid Boston fan, until they totally changed it from v10. So Puma pretty much rescued me.
How do you find the sizing?
@@MR-pq7yw For me it was 'True to Size' - Did experience a bit of heal slippage, but the runners knot sorted this.
So are you using same size with Velocity 2? Because I went size down from my normal size while purchasing Velocity 2. If it is narrow, Maybe I have to order size up
@@oguzaliekinci Yes. I'm usually a 7. With Adidas I have to go 7.5.
But with Puma, I stick with 7.
I also got these and have them in rotation with the Velocity 2. Puma have overtaken Hoka as my go to brand.
This is my current favorite shoe. I’m on my second pair right now. It’s great for everything.
It just works
I don't typically care about the upper of a shoe, but this is an exception. By far, the most comfortable upper I've ever worn. Midsole is comfortable, but also responsive. And Pumagrip is incredible. At 200 miles, I choose this shoe for a wide range of runs, especially because any day that involves wet roads, this is by far the best shoe I have. I've raced a half marathon in the rain in this shoe and got the victory! Then I chose this one for a 5k race that involved road, grass, and caliche gravel, and the shoe went to 2 for 2 in races with another victory. For me, this shoe's versatility makes it truly exceptional for folks who might have 3-5 shoes in the rotation.
Just picked this up 2 days ago at a very good sale price in my country and had an enjoyable run with it yesterday. Yeah good to see this review here by kofuzi himself.
Glad to hear you’re enjoying it
The Deviate Nitro 2 is my first plated shoe. Definitely worth it at 30% off MRSP during a recent holiday sale in Singapore. I had been resisting carbon-plated shoes because I figured I should just do old-school until I become a seasoned runner (coming up on my one-year runniversary), but I liked the idea of the composite plate. It may be my imagination, but compared to Peg 39s, this shoe really seems to deliver in the energy-return category! I've done a bit of speed work with it and mainly tempo runs. Running purely on feel, I'm getting 5:15 minutes/km in these vs. around 5:30/km in the Pegs at the same RPE. Placebo effect? Maybe, but I'm enjoying the speed--wherever it comes from. I went up half a size due to length rather than width issues. 9 1/2 is slightly roomy in the toe box but 9 would have left very little room at the front.
Not placebo dear friend, i totally agree with you. Enjoyable, great cushion and energy return without it feeling strange or over-bouncy.
You become faster with the same effort and also less tired.
Cheers from Greece.
Welcome to the "teched-up" runing world my friend. It's definitely not placebo, you're just late into the party. I used to be all about max cushion shoes for easy long runs until some of it was too damn soft and "cushiony" that I started to develop foot pain at the bottom of my feet. One shoe that didn't cause that to me was my cloudmonster and it was the only shoe that had the speedboard in there and being slightly more firm and rigid than others. So I made the leap of faith, picked endorphin speed 3 and it totally turned my perception of runing shoe world upside down. These days most brands are offering that formular since the ES3 is so damn successful and popular. Racing foam+daily foam+slightly more flexible/less rigid plate/rods and more durable/comfortable upper. It's a package that packs the fun of super shoes ,allow the option to pick the pace, but is still nice enough to run for easy day and recovery days. The real challenge in these shoes for me was to constantly remind myself to not go hard on it. Keep telling myself to slow down and maintain the pace because they're that much fun you unintentionally up the pace before you know it. That's ok for a work out but not on easy days.
Most underrated daily trainer.
Own 3 pairs. Love the colors. Waiting for the blue/green to go on sale.
Pumas are now my favourite running shoes. I use this exact shoe for every type of run. I recently did 2 10k races and I use it for 20km+ runs
glad to hear you've been enjoying this shoe!
After 55kms on the Deviate Nitro 2, the word that best describes this shoe is versatility. It accepts any type of workout (or race) you want to do on it.
It's not as light as the Hoka Rincon 3 or New Balance Beacon 3 (other super versatiles shoes), but it's sturdier and has a better grip.
Is that durable??
DN 2 is my current fav shoe. I use it for tempo, fartlek, interval & long run on weekend. 100++ km and still fresh on feet like a brand new one. Can't wait to try DN Elite 2.
Is that durable???
@@dennykristianto8123 I use DN 2 for long run ( >15 km ) at weekend & on interval/tempo on thursday.
So far so good. Outsole grip still great & the foam is still as bouncy as new.
@@kingsky86 makasih kk
After testing many shoes lately this is the best for me, from easy days to races
Which other shoes have you tested lately?
US 9.5 here and yes, it's really snug for me as well. And I don't know if it's that, the stiffness of the plate, or a combination of both, but I find it to be really harsh on my forefoot/toes.
Dua/Triathletes who compete in local races passing through forest trails and what have you should definitely give Puma (in general) a look; their traction is second to none.
thanks ill go for 10 US then. im usually 9.5
This shoe is seriously good, well done PUMA.
Whew glad this shoe has good reviews, got it for a bargain price of 60 usd, but i had to size up, luckily you recommended that too ❤
hope you enjoy!
Puma Deviate Nitro 2 + New Balance SC Trainer 🏆🏆 Thats my combination here! Thanks for the review, i really enjoy your content, Kofuzi.
Nice
The best shoes I ever had this far.
I really love this she and during the winter when i knew it was a bit slushy etc outside i could run in it. I even ran in 2 inches of snow in this and had no slippage. I wish they would bring the goretx version over from europe/asia
Just had to get another pair.. my first pair is almost 2 yrs old, still feels as good as day 1, but I couldnt resist the 45$ price for a pair today.
Probably one of the best shoes of all time.
nice
Glad to see your review of the Deviate Nitro 2. It's my favorite all-round running shoe - a jack-of-all-trades that can do almost everything very well. Due to its awesome outsole, I also like it for going on smooth mild trails. It can do speed workouts, daily runs, and easy long runs and transition between them smoothly. It doesn't do any one thing *extremely* well like, say, a Prime X Strung for long tempo runs or Vaporfly 2/3 and the Takumi Sen 8/9 for all-out speed workouts and races or the More v4 and Nimbus 25 for easy/recovery, but it does everything well enough. As you say, hard to categorize. I went half-size up and that worked out well but then got a second pair in EE size and that worked out even better.
To me, the DN2 is a great workhorse shoe. It's not the most exciting shoe and the ride feels a bit muted, but it's comfortable and chugs along nicely when you just want to put in some quality miles.
Yes, most versatile shoe on the market imho!
Could you elaborate on what you mean by " It's not the most exciting shoe and the ride feels a bit muted". Which other shoe you recommend as an exciting shoe?
@@thurules For excitement, speed, and fun factor, I prefer the Adidas Adizero shoes with Lightstrike Pro midsole - Prime X Strung 1/2, Adios Pro 3, Takumi Sen 8/9, and Boston 12. They just have more of the "wow" factor in terms of propulsion, responsiveness, energy return, and fast turnover.
The New Balance FuelCell shoes like the SC Elite v4/3 , SC Trainer v2/1 and the Rebel v4/3 are also very bouncy and fun. They are noticeably softer (except for SC Elite v4) and not as responsive as the Adizero shoes IMO, but they are more comfortable.
The Puma shoes have that "old school" feel and ride. They are not as assistive as the Adizero or the high-performance FuelCell shoes but are more robust with a workhorse type of reliable quality to them.
To use a general car analogy, the Adizero shoes (and Nike Alphafly 3 and Vaporlfy 3/2) are like race sports cars - exciting but not always very comfortable. The NB shoes are like high performance sedans - plush with a focus on comfort. Puma shoes are like high performance trucks - solid, reliable, durable, super grippy for all types of terrains and weather conditions, and has a chugging type of ride than bouncing you forward.
I love them all for experiencing different feel and rides at various paces and for various distances. Adidas, NB, and Puma are my three favorite brands with Nike's AF3 and VF3 added for top tier racing shoes. ASICS, Saucony, and Hoka make some nice shoes as well, but I just didn't like them as much as the Adidas, NB, and Puma shoes. Hope this helps!
@alexkhan2000 thanks for the detailed response 👍
What is EE size?
The Puma Deviate Nitro 2 is my all time favourite daily trainer. Best „jack of all trades“ running shoe currently on the market.
Its on sale on my country, your review came out right on time
Was pleasantly surprised by this shoe, great grip in the wet, a quite lively midsole and the composite plate not too aggressive with the right amount of flexion ❤
pumagrip is no joke
Great stuff, as always. Loving the Deviate Nitro 2 as well. Big comp for me is the Endorphin Speed 3.
I tried several brands of running shoes but always had plantar injuries repeatedly, and was able to recover from the plantar and run comfortably until now with Puma DN2
I got to demo the Deviate Nitro 2 at the Puma shakeout run before the Boston Marathon. I really like it, but it was too narrow. Fortunately, there is a wide version available online, so I ordered that with the 20% discount offer from the shakeout run. It fits perfectly now. It’s a very versatile shoe that does remind me of the Boston 9.
Glad to hear you were able to find a size that works for you!
hi where to get the wide version?
Price?
Puma did a awesome job I ran a 16:42 5km in these last km in 3:08 and it was my second time running in them !
My dream times is 14 min for 5km and 29 for 10km Puma will get me there :)
I love mine for long runs at pace, towards the end of a training block. They feel both cushy on long downhills and fast on the flat. Then I race in the Deviate Elites 👍
I have so my expensive shoes from every brand… this is my favorite one by far!! I love the deviate!
glad to hear you've been enjoying them!
I love this shoe...the ultimate daily trainer. It can really handle all types of distances and speeds (excluding competitive racing speeds). IMO. this shoe and the Saucony Endo Speed 3 trade blows in the most-versatile-shoe matchup. I also agree with you on the slightly snug toe box, I must wear thinner socks else it gets somewhat uncomfortable after a long-ish run when my forefoot/toes swell.
Weird thing is that the Elite seems to have a better fit than the non Elite version
Agree 👍🏽
They are the best all round shoe to hit the market in a while. This is what the new Pegasus Turbo should have been.
thanks for selling me this sir Ko hopefully its good for supination too
Having wide feet myself, I found the regular version way too tight. Going with the wide version solved that problem for me though.
So if you can find it, go with the wide version instead going up in size.
Nice tip
That’s exactly what I did
Concerned that the shoes don't have a 12.5. I'll go normal 13 if I can't find a wide but not sure if a 13 2E will feel too big all around. Thoughts?
@@agingrich The length didn't feel any different to me. between the Normandy the wide versions. So if a 13 fits you length wise. 13 wide shouldn't be too big.
@@agingrich I’m 11.5. 12s were too big. 11 wide is perfect
Love these. I have loads of shoes and reach for these for lots of my runs, even light trails etc
Managed to find one at 99$ and at this price it is a very good daily use that can do everything
Nice
Would like to see more sales in USA ; I have found too many awesome models on sale from other brands to try these at full price . Thanks for critiquing the 160 price as the new standard for good daily trainers .
$140 really seems to be the new standard, but anything with a few extra bells and whistles seems to get quickly bumped up to $160 or above
a great shoe, it's a bit awkward at first, but the shoes always focus on the heart
After running for a week, the pair got used to the shoes, really like it and beautiful
Probably as versatile and fast as Endorphine Speed. One big problem, gravel stones get stuck in the cutout under shoe.
just purchased this yesterday for Php 3760 in Cebu philippines. Im excited to run this for my 12k run this coming March 3
I just picked up a pair for the Bayshore half marathon next weekend! I got the royal sapphire color way (very limited color options at the Fleet Feet I work at) but I absolutely love the look of yours. I'm usually an 8.5 in every shoe but I sized up to a 9 for these, they definitely run small
Still the best plated daily trainers till now!
It’s really quite good
I had the Deviate 2, liked the upper, but the midsole just felt sooo flat and too stiff for me - I found it very confusing to run in, it felt like I couldn't roll off the toes at all. I also found that cutout in the midsole was a vacuum for stones. I ended up selling it and replaced it with the Hyperion max which I'm really enjoying. Everyone responds differently to shoes. In AU/NZ the puma is also a chunk more expensive than the Brooks too, and Brooks are often on sale but Pumas never are.
Any other shoes than Hyperion max you recommend from other brands on which the midsole does not feel so flat?
ok so I posted that 9 months ago, the puma are always on sale now 😂. I really like the roll off the toes on the Mach 5 and the Novablast 4 is my go to shoe at the moment@@thurules
Pairs well with the Puma Deviate Nitro Elite V1
For me as well 👍🏻
I got it for RM350 (77 USD) during sale on early july. Totally worth it
Murah siak 👌🏻, so mcm mana dgn kasut tu bro dr segi feeling, underfoot best x kalau buat slow run?
I bought mine back in Jan and has been my go to daily shoe. Too bad my feet grew and my TTS of US9 is no longer comfy (i have high in-step) and have to go half size up already. But overall i love this shoe!!
Just got a pair of these at Ross for $40. Like finding treasure on a beach.
Got this for a really good price and very happy with it! Got the samen colour as well 🎉
Glad that they are working out for you!
Good explanation. Nice video
70% carbon plate. The upper doesn't have a lot of volume, with a snug fit, but that is Puma, which is pretty standard for a European shoe. I use it as a daily trainer with some speed sessions. I would pair this with the Puma velocity Nitro. Also, Puma offers great discounts, so you should easily get the shoe with at least 20% discount.
It’s funny to say, oh Puma, it’s a Euro shoe. But the Deviate Elite 2 fits better. And the Nitro 2 fits better. And the ForeverRun fits better.
Love them 🔝 and elite 2 aswell
Sitting here drinking coffee ☕ from my Kofuzi mug 😁...haven't ran in a pair of Pumas since 95. Wasn't impressed then. That being said looking forward to watching this...on we go...
A lot has changed with Puma in the past few years
Yo, I just got these WOW superb comfortable breathable 10/10
Do you recommend buying the elite 2 or de regular nitro 2?? Help please
Solid review brother as always 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Thanks for watching!
Only £70 in UK now on sale. I thought the £100 I paid a few months ago was a good buy - I really like them - comfort, responsiveness, stability, and quite protective of legs. Fairly fast although not an all out racer by any means. Definitely more sprightly than the velocity 2s.
Where are they on sale at that price?
@@morlo66 A couple of places, but some have very limited sizes - up and running had 13s only, sports direct had many sizes, though the sizes (and colour) tell me they may be women's - if there is a difference! (outlet) - they also have the black ones (usually cheaper) for £82.50 in many mens sizes, but I think any price under £100 is good for these tbh - I really like them.
@@jtrenchard1974 cheer's thanks
Much beneficial.. Thanks Bro
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How i wish i saw this video before buying my pair. all good till about the half marathon and the lower volume in the forefoot really gives my toes a pounding
🎉Personally, for a daily trainer, i would prefer a non-plated shoe just to get some variety for the foot. If i were to get a shoe with a plate, I would just get a racing shoe since they last so much longer nowadays anyway.
including a plate in a non-racing shoe is a double edged sword. putting a plate in a shoe can attract some customers while deterring others.
but I generally think of plates in non-racing shoes as stability elements. like a Mizuno wave plate or an Adidas LEP system.
My combo is Deviate for daily training and workouts, Triumph 20 for really easy and long runs, Saucony Endorphin Pro 3 for racing. What do u think? Ah, my usual size is 11 (Saucony, Hoka, Adidas...) but 10,5 in this shoes is perfect for me.
My daily trainner!
I didn’t mind the Puma velocity 2 what so ever, was a little hot in the toe box, but great shoe otherwise. Might have to give this one a try
I love Adizero SL 😍🤩
I just picked this one up last week on sale for MYR357 or USD79. Lucky me. 😊
Where did you get it bro?😮
@@abebebest Lazada
Kofuzi, my question is. Do you prefer adidas adizero sl for a long run or puma deviate nitro 2?? Because. I really found that adidas adizero SL is comfortable and felt good for speed. But puma is comfy too and it has the balance and speed too in there. Thank you. Because adidas is on sale in Bali now. For $96 as you mentioned for that colorful one.
I think I’ve already given you all the information you need to make your decision. The remaining deciding factors seem to be up to you now.
Do puma do a racer for 5- 10k?
how does this shoe compare with novablast 3. I have novablast 3 and have run about 500km in it. looking for another upgrade. but not sure how to use this puma shoe.
They overlap quite a bit in terms of use case. The novablast is geared a bit more towards daily training where the Devaite 2 is more capable of full workouts
foreverrun or deviete nitro 2 for everyday trainer?
Why not compare it to the Endorphin Speed? Racing foam for racing foam, plated (semi), uptempo daily trainer (sorry saucony I know you hate that), and speed shoe. For the exact same price
I didn’t enjoy the Endo Speed 3
@@kofuzi fair enough
Please brother recommend one from these three
1. Saucony Endorphin Speed 3 - 225g
2. Puma deviate nitro 2 - 256g
3. Puma velocity nitro 2 - 264g
I know that it’s not in the same category, but do you have any opinion on how the Puma Deviate Nitro 2 compares with the Asics Superblast in terms of speed and comfort? I need a shoe for my faster workouts but I won’t need it for anything too hardcore. I’m still a beginner, but I’d want to get something a tad faster than my Asics Novablast 4, for the 5k speed workouts and I found the Superblast and Deviate Nitro 2 at a discount.
Thanks 😊
Puma rep said the upcoming Magnify Nitro 2 has a wider toe box due to the more anatomical last, just FYI.
What shoes would you recommend for recovery runs and distances of 5-8 miles, tops? Ideally something cushioned but bouncy.
FWIW, I found the Glycerin 20 cushioned but dull; felt like a memory foam mattress.
If you like Puma, consider the ForeverRun
which puma rep you are referring to?
Hello is this Better than the Hoka Mach 5?
I’d say their use cases differ slightly. Both are great choices. Mach 5 is going to be squishier. Deviate can handle workouts better
Puma isn’t talked about enough … they have some decent shoes and you can snatch them for a cheaper price too
True to size? Is it too tight?
I currently have the Puma Deviate Nitro 2 as a workout and tempo shoe. I am pairing it with Nimbus 25 for my recovery and easy run. Would you recommend Puma Deviate Nitro 2 for a full marathon? Hope to hear from you.
In this video, I have already provided two marathon racing shoes that I would prefer
Or perhaps I am misunderstanding your question
I ran a marathon in these a couple weeks ago, but not for time. Feet were feeling the distance a bit at the end but legs and joints were happy.
I’ve loved mine. Got my 5k pb in them in feb (19:56). Ran a marathon in them recently and the last hour my feet hurt a bit. Do you think these are a marathon shoe?
they can be for some people
I enjoyed running with it. However, after few runs. SOLE SEP!
What is SEP?
Sole separation.😢
Just picked those for 70 euro . together with puma magnify or a whopping 59 euro yes 2 pairs for less than 130 🤙🤙🤘🤘🎄🎄its a Christmas 🎁🎁🎁
nice work
I am just wondering how the Deviate Nitro 2 compare with the Endorphin Speed 3... any thoughts?
they have the same objectives, but they approach them differently
Any good for walking or too unstable?
I find it quite stable for walking as well. But keep in mind you might start feeling the plate in the heel after about an hour or so because it is really high up, close to the foot in the heel.
@@homosapien5156 thanks
The plate is too stiff to walk in them normally, it's awkward. Running only imo
Considering this for hyrox racing and training
Thanks for the video. I'm looking for some advice. I've been running on the cumulus 24 as my daily trainer. I use that for distances from 10k to 15k, usually at easyto medium paces. I'm looking for a 2nd pair in my rotation with a bit more responsive ride as a daily trainer. Am heavily contemplating the deviate nitro 2. Went to test it out and it feels good but one concern that I had was that I felt my feet tilting a little inward as i land as compared to the usual flat landing that i feel with my cumulus 24. Is that feeling normal for this shoe and is it okay? A 2nd alternative im looking at is the forever run nitro.
I wish I had these when I could run 10km in 44mins 😂
If you had to decide between this one or the Adizero sl at the same price - what’s the best ?
This
Got them and already ran a few times on them - amazing ! Thanks @kofuzi !
good enough for speed training?
Yea, depending on what kind of speed training
Im not going to use them for running , but for keep fit classes , what do you recommend the one you are reviewing on the video or the elite deviate elite. Ty
Neither. I’d recommend a cross training shoe or similar. Not a running shoe, if I’m understanding your question correctly
For a new runner pace 8:30min/km (13:47min/miles), do you think the DN2 will be a good choice or otherwise. Currently training with Noosa Tri 14 for all of my runs. Was told the noosa feel is similar to a plated (could be wrong). Hope to get your insight!
It’s a great shoe for a variety of running, regardless of pace
And what I mean by that is I evaluate and recommend shoes based on what you want to do with the shoe (easy run, long run, speed work, etc) and not how fast you do it