This is my favorite TFL content. Trucks working hard in tough real world conditions. Andre and Kent keep the conversation interesting. Keep up the great work!
Even though they keep comparing the Tremor to the Raptor for the price, the Tremor is a better deal for me personally. Being able to go on trails where the Raptor would be uncomfortable while still being able to haul a bed full of wood in the back is very appealing.
I’m picking up my Tremor in 2 weeks, couldn’t be more excited. I won’t be towing over 5K but it’s great to know it’s performing so well AND at altitude. Ford did this Tremor right!
I just bought one of these Tremors nearly identical to the one Andre tested here. It really is an awesome truck! Glad to know it can handle the Ike Gauntlet in style. The most I'll be towing is my 3,500 lb. popup camper, so I'm golden!
When you're into towing and trucks, this one of the best channels in youtube in my opinion. Love the real world testing. When I tow I want to know the rear sag/squat when hooked, payload, mpg, engine/transmission temp, road grade and elevation which was all covered in the video.
Yeah I think the 10 speed at a 3.31 might give better gearing than the old 6 w/ 3.73s. But people still gravitate to the more aggressive rear end because OEMs keep bumping up their towing #s higher and higher.
Would be great to have a little wrap up at the end of these videos comparing the tested vehicle’s scores and times to the top ten performers on the Ike. Where they fall on the leaderboard! Thanks!
The 5.5ft bed is actually great for towing visibility and turning. My favorite tow vehicle is an F350 SD regular cab dually with an 8 ft bed because you had excellent visibility all around anything but a 5th wheel.
short boxes are for middle age baseball dads a longer wheelbase handles the load much better especially when if comes to those f150s where the trailer pretty much tows the truck
The old man needs to write a updated book. Rear great ratio has more to do with transmission gear spread than just a rule of thumb for performance . The 10 speed transmissions have changed the game.
I've been saying this for years. You can have a 3.55 or 4.10. With the 3.55 you can tow in 8th gear and have good mpg unloaded. The 4.10 you can tow in tenth but the mpg suffers unloaded.
I ordered one of these with the 401a package. I'm told it will be 4-5 months of waiting. I can't wait to get it. Such a nice balance between off-road and everything else.
You will absolutely live it. I bought a 401a Tremor 3 weeks ago (lucked out having a local dealer have 2 in stock- but yes it was over msrp…) It’s the best all-around truck I’ve owned. 1699 lbs of payload, comfortable ride and enough offroad capability for more than most peoples needs. The wait will be worth it!
I also ordered a 2021 back in June here in Canada fully loaded with every option. Was told by dealer last week that it will no longer be a 2021 as Ford has made all 2021 orders into 2022 models and I prob won't see it till March 2022 earliest ... So frustrating.
I'm in Peterborough, but ordered through Uxbridge Ford. I ordered a Tremor 401a package with dealer installed leather seats, 8 speaker b&o sounds system and levelling kit.
What I've found out over the years is not always how much you are towing but how much you can stop with. Thanks for going over all the idiosyncrasies that many might not be aware of.
Yes that’s no kidding. Years ago I blew through a red light half way down a hill that changed in me and I was totally unable to stop and that was with 7,000 pounds in the bed on a 1 ton Chevy with good brakes and tires. While it easily hauled the weight it would not even come close to stopping for me so we started hauling less weight.
The number of brake applications is an indicator but it’s really about heat rejection. If the brakes can dump the heat well then more applications is irrelevant. Conversely if you only hit the brakes once and the brakes overheat that is bad. Measure the brake rotor temps too
After twenty something years I got pretty good at backing right up with the ball right under the trailer hitch but it's nice being able to check the camera and be sure. Makes you wonder why they didn't have them decades ago. It's not like you need the highest resolution camera or screen.
Whether you are towing or not, what we call tow mirrors should be the standard mirror on a full sized truck. My truck is your typical supercrew 4x4 with the 5.5 foot bed and I don't tow with it. However it does have tow mirrors. NOT HAVING A BLIND SPOT IS A GOD SEND IN TRAFFIC!
I definitely would get this over a Raptor or TRX. Could still handle some trails, can carry a truck camper, and can pull my Jeep on a flatbed. Expensive, but still probably cheaper than my Denver apartment.
Tundra TRD Pro will be a must. I know it has the hybrid, so a bit of an apple to oranges compared to this Tremor, but may help change Fords tune to put the Powerboost in there to compete.
I just drove this stretch of highway for the first time this summer (22). The grades on descent and climb are pretty eye opening, what a great way to showcase towing performance!
I bet government agencies will get a base version of this truck. It'll have the suspension, drivetrain and tires with an XL interior. That's what I would want for working
This might be a stretch and some may say I'm crazy but I'd love to see the old trusty f100/250 on the Ike gauntlet hell or just towing around town in general the 300 still has some juice left maybe electronic power steering is in order first and brakes oh and a dedicated receiver hitch it's alot I know but worth it
I always look forward to your Super Ike content. Will you do that for this truck? I like how a couple years ago you did a super Ike mashup between Nissan, Ford, Dodge, and Chevy. Please do that again and include the Toyota.
Can you set it and forget it at the top of the Ike? Thought you guys were going to start running the Ike with cruise control enabled. I was looking forward to this, especially on the downhill, considering that most vehicles will auto downshift to control speed. I would like to see how capable the truck is in managing its speed through the transmission with the least amount of input from the driver. And no, coasting down the Ike hoping the transmission holds your speed isn't the same thing. If you do try this methodology, you'll have to adjust your break point for over-speed as most won't downshift until 5-7mph over the set point.
Agreed. Coasting downhill is a measure of gravity, wind resistance and internal friction. I don’t understand why they continue to count break applications. Even more an issue with a diesel with engine breaking.
because adaptive cruise equipped trucks use their brakes until they over heat and then suddenly shut off. it isn't coasting, its using the engine as an air pump to slow the combo. finally, you aren't supposed to tow with cruise control in teh mountains as stated in the manuals even in 2021.
Just got my tremor last week. The rake is insane on it so not surprised it towed this well. I only tow like 2,500 lbs so I’ll be adjust the insane rake a bit.
that little thing that Mr. Truck said about the electrical connector opening up is huge, before with it opening down debris would always get caught in the connector when loading and unloading the bed and cause my trailer lights to act up. Glad to see ford fixed that
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Here I am just waiting to see if TFL will test the ecoboost 2.7 max payload trucks and how they handle their new 10k lb tow rating. As well as the gm duramax 1500 with their new 12k lb tow rating :(
Haha, the Tremor hauled the same load up the same mountain in the same time as the 702hp Ram TRX. It did that with a whole Ford 2.7tt LESS engine capacity at surprisingly low rpm in 6th gear !!
To be fair though this is a speed limited endeavor. Also fuel consumption appears to be greater Despite that lower capacity, and low rpm may not be beneficial even if it has power available.
@@tumbleweedking5668 And so did the Tremor, your comment is pointless, AS I SAID, the Tremor did it in the same time, used the same amount of fuel, BUT is only a 400hp engine, giving away a WHOLE EcoBoost 2.7 twin turbo engine's worth of displacement. Give this motor some REAL credit mate !!
All those pricy features are what makes the Tremor such a nice truck. Try buying a Raptor with that many features and see what you pay. Don't forget the ADM on the Raptor. I owned an 18 Raptor and now have a 22 Tremor. I see the Tremor as a Raptor with good road manors. I don't do any off roading, so paying $30k more for a truck harder to drive on the highway makes no sense for me.
I watch almost every video u guys make. Then I go to my local dealership and they have 3 new vehicles. Yes, 3. One explorer, one ranger, and one escape. Sad times.
3.5 EcoBoost, while generating a lot of power for the size of the engine is too small for truck applications. My 2019 F150 FX4 Lariat with Max Tow and the 3.5 EcoBoost has 47000 miles and is underperforming already on power and fuel economy which I attribute to early wear-out. Fuel economy is off a good 3mpg from what it got when new and when I tow it is working way harder than it used to. Of the 47000 miles, about 6000 miles are towing a 6000 lb travel trailer, the rest is about 70% highway, 30% city. I have been looking for a new F150 with the V8, but can't find them anywhere and Ford won't even let you do a build for order online with the V8 engine.
May consider the RAM and GM twins if you want a diesel 6 and or a v8 option (despite the cylinder deactivation) for a majority of trims. The 2022 GMC to me is equally equipped to the top trims of Ford and RAM minus panoroof.
If your truck is that far down on power and economy than it's broke and you should take it to a mechanic. I have the same year with 70k miles and I live in the mountains with no issues. I'm also a mechanic. What does your maintenance history look like?
Andre, would you consider comparing both the regular "consumers" HD tructs and the commercial variants for this years gold hitch awards? The different power ratings has always boggled my mind. I am curious to find out if the commercial variants have less power and are less efficient/capable.
When towing eco boosts are no better. Rev at a higher rpm to achieve power, V8’s not so much. Everyday driving not so much. Eco is better on fuel. My brothers Ford eco got the same mileage as my 6 L GM and we both towed fifth wheels. He was revenge higher.
@@ramrider1453 clear you’ve never driven an ecoboost, show me another half ton that runs 2800 rpm running up that hill… I’ll wait. That’s what the ecoboost is KNOWN for is low rpm high torque. They say that a lot on this channel as well.
I'm looking at using my Tremor to tow a travel trailer. What would be your recommendation on max tow weight and max tow length to safely tow and stop? TIA
This kind of truck is too big for my area, I live in europe so I can't even buy one, I can't afford one, I don't have anything to tow, and never had. But I watch every Ike Gauntlet😝. My dailydriver is 1.0, 3 cyl. 155 bhp ecoboost engine😊
TEAM two Questions for you- 1) Do you think the tremor will be a short run option or Permanent like FX4? 2) Why does Ford not push the Tremor brand aka as in swag or build a fan base? Thx guys!
F-150 Tremor is in it's 3rd year now. There's also the F-250 Tremor, Ranger Tremor and Maverick Tremor. All seem to be in high demand. I think it will be around for a while. There is a Tremor forum.
Mr. Truck said we need bigger mountains, that's exactly what I was thinking. The poor little Eisenhower grade just does not do it any more. Technology has officially conquered it.
Still think they should offer this Tremor in a SuperCab with 6.5 foot bed, it would be the same length as a SuperCrew & give people the option of of a non cylinder deactivated 5.0L V8 too?
@@TheJoncic I added the sumo springs that replace the bump stops, eliminated the porpoise effect with out changing the unloaded performance. Admittedly I don’t do serious off roading with it but it’s a tremor not a raptor. But your point is valid nonetheless
I like the Tremor. Looks like Chevy needs to just slightly up their Trailboss game without encroaching on the ZR2... Chevy needs to offer a front electric locker on the Trailboss along with 33's and a metal front skidplate that warps up the front bumper. And the Zr2 needs 35's standard... Just a thought. An optional supercharged engine on the ZR2 would make it perfect
the tongue weight is only rated for 500 lbs or 1150 i believe with a WD hitch setup, could be why there is alot of squat, i have the same truck in 401a and a 7000# travel trailed thats 650 tongue weight and with the WD hitch truck is still amost level, although looks like you have spring bars on there?
Already have a short bed raptor for off-road. The tremor is axles and suspension. No frame modification. It wouldn’t cost them anything to add different configurations. 5.5 is pretty useless for anyone using it as a truck.
@@waled121 eh, the trucks massive already- why not be able to haul all the gear i take? also a 6.5 supercab option would be the same length as the current supercrew/5.5
I love the tremor on that F-150 but for the 68k price tag I would absolutely go for the super duty diesel tremor, since you can’t get a hybrid F-150 tremor I would go all in for the towing and payload capabilities of a super duty for that price tag.
This is why I wish Ford kept making the F250 Tremor in the XLT level. But I’m guessing that’s why they stopped. It’s over $70k for a F250 Tremor with the diesel and a few options that compare with the $68k F150. But for a few thousand lots of people will compare them.
Just dumped my 22 Tremor, lost my shirt big time. Where do I start, transmission issues, engine consuming coolant, distorted radio, grinding noise left front that could be felt in steering wheel, rattles from underneath, dealer never resolved issues. Truck cost me 78K out the door, I was able to get 40. 37K loss in less than a year of owning.
I would like to see retro towing and performance on older trucks. I had 2 first gen Dakotas, one with a 5.2 V8 and one with a 3.9 V6. Both extended cab 4x4. An 08 Colorado Z71 4x4 wich did real good and now an 06 Dakota crew cab SLT 4x4 I haven't towed with yet. I'd love to see older trucks compared
@@skigod9 dang, have you tried putting in manual and locking into a low gear to keep rpms a bit higher? Ecoboosts generate tons of heat when at full boost and low rpm. Tow haul may not be smart enough to kick down since there’s technically plenty of power. Also locking into one gear means the torque converter should lock up too so won’t allow heat to built in the transmission fluid.
Well that’s kind of right. The blue oval has been around a long time, but wasn’t the first Ford emblem and the shape of the oval and font used to spell Ford has changed many times over the years
Kent, the 3.73:1 rear axle will give you more engine breaking than the taller gears will, not less. That’s because for any given road speed, you will have more engine speed.
The front end of that truck had me fooled.. I was thinking it was an F250 for a while until I got my brain straightened out,,, great looking machine !!
This is my favorite TFL content. Trucks working hard in tough real world conditions. Andre and Kent keep the conversation interesting. Keep up the great work!
Man me to. It's what got me into TFL and frankly I wish we would see more of this content
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Even though they keep comparing the Tremor to the Raptor for the price, the Tremor is a better deal for me personally. Being able to go on trails where the Raptor would be uncomfortable while still being able to haul a bed full of wood in the back is very appealing.
The Tremor certainly would be the more practical rig for the most people.
Absolutely. Tremor would be amazing. Personally, I would only buy the raptor if I planned on doing some shit with it.
I’m picking up my Tremor in 2 weeks, couldn’t be more excited. I won’t be towing over 5K but it’s great to know it’s performing so well AND at altitude. Ford did this Tremor right!
I just bought one of these Tremors nearly identical to the one Andre tested here. It really is an awesome truck! Glad to know it can handle the Ike Gauntlet in style. The most I'll be towing is my 3,500 lb. popup camper, so I'm golden!
How much
How much? My dealer texted me
This morning saying one showed up this morning and they want $71,000 for it.
Still waiting on mine. Glad you like yours
How is the fuel economy
When you're into towing and trucks, this one of the best channels in youtube in my opinion. Love the real world testing. When I tow I want to know the rear sag/squat when hooked, payload, mpg, engine/transmission temp, road grade and elevation which was all covered in the video.
In 2013 when I bought an F150 with the towing pkg it came with 373's and the 6 speed trans. Nowadays 373 gears are fine for towing with the 10 speed.
Yeah I think the 10 speed at a 3.31 might give better gearing than the old 6 w/ 3.73s. But people still gravitate to the more aggressive rear end because OEMs keep bumping up their towing #s higher and higher.
TFL please give us more of this content. I am sure many of us got hooked on TFL with the Ike Gauntlet content and real world truck testing
Agreed
FACTS
Yup
Would be great to have a little wrap up at the end of these videos comparing the tested vehicle’s scores and times to the top ten performers on the Ike. Where they fall on the leaderboard! Thanks!
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100% agree, kinda like what throttle house does with their track times and so you can see it compared to all other trucks
The 5.5ft bed is actually great for towing visibility and turning. My favorite tow vehicle is an F350 SD regular cab dually with an 8 ft bed because you had excellent visibility all around anything but a 5th wheel.
Visibility yes, but I greatly prefer the longest wheel base possible for towing stability. 🙂
Longer wheel base, less sway, less tow capacity. Shorter wheel base, more tow capacity, better maneuverability.
short boxes are for middle age baseball dads a longer wheelbase handles the load much better especially when if comes to those f150s where the trailer pretty much tows the truck
The old man needs to write a updated book. Rear great ratio has more to do with transmission gear spread than just a rule of thumb for performance . The 10 speed transmissions have changed the game.
I've been saying this for years. You can have a 3.55 or 4.10.
With the 3.55 you can tow in 8th gear and have good mpg unloaded.
The 4.10 you can tow in tenth but the mpg suffers unloaded.
@@VARITHMS and they test at highway speeds….. it’s disappointing as TFL gets so much right.
I ordered one of these with the 401a package. I'm told it will be 4-5 months of waiting. I can't wait to get it. Such a nice balance between off-road and everything else.
You will absolutely live it. I bought a 401a Tremor 3 weeks ago (lucked out having a local dealer have 2 in stock- but yes it was over msrp…) It’s the best all-around truck I’ve owned. 1699 lbs of payload, comfortable ride and enough offroad capability for more than most peoples needs. The wait will be worth it!
I also ordered a 2021 back in June here in Canada fully loaded with every option. Was told by dealer last week that it will no longer be a 2021 as Ford has made all 2021 orders into 2022 models and I prob won't see it till March 2022 earliest ... So frustrating.
I'm in Ontario and was told 4-5 months, so hopefully March/April. At least it will save it a season of driving salty slushy roads.
@@Sean-oq3ox I'm in Ontario as well, mind if I ask where you ordered and with what options?
I'm in Peterborough, but ordered through Uxbridge Ford. I ordered a Tremor 401a package with dealer installed leather seats, 8 speaker b&o sounds system and levelling kit.
What I've found out over the years is not always how much you are towing but how much you can stop with.
Thanks for going over all the idiosyncrasies that many might not be aware of.
Yes that’s no kidding. Years ago I blew through a red light half way down a hill that changed in me and I was totally unable to stop and that was with 7,000 pounds in the bed on a 1 ton Chevy with good brakes and tires. While it easily hauled the weight it would not even come close to stopping for me so we started hauling less weight.
@@captainamer71You had problems stopping with 7k???!! I would have expected you to say in a Colorado….
But you go on to say a 1 ton?? What happened?
The number of brake applications is an indicator but it’s really about heat rejection. If the brakes can dump the heat well then more applications is irrelevant. Conversely if you only hit the brakes once and the brakes overheat that is bad. Measure the brake rotor temps too
After twenty something years I got pretty good at backing right up with the ball right under the trailer hitch but it's nice being able to check the camera and be sure. Makes you wonder why they didn't have them decades ago. It's not like you need the highest resolution camera or screen.
Just did the down hill portion of the Ike Gauntlet in my Semi with 35k lbs. Had 3 brake applications.
Whether you are towing or not, what we call tow mirrors should be the standard mirror on a full sized truck. My truck is your typical supercrew 4x4 with the 5.5 foot bed and I don't tow with it. However it does have tow mirrors. NOT HAVING A BLIND SPOT IS A GOD SEND IN TRAFFIC!
I definitely would get this over a Raptor or TRX. Could still handle some trails, can carry a truck camper, and can pull my Jeep on a flatbed. Expensive, but still probably cheaper than my Denver apartment.
Me too but my only complaint :( is the engine, not having the High Output 3.5 which has better internal parts and better performing turbos
Narrower than the Raptor actually means it can squeeze through tighter trails that the Raptor's width wouldn't allow !!
I am not much of a ford guy but I love that old Ford in tow. New trucks pretty nice too
Since you used the tremor you need to use the rebel, trail boss/maybe zr2, at4/maybe at4x, Nissan titan pro4x, and tundra Trd pro
Tundra TRD Pro will be a must. I know it has the hybrid, so a bit of an apple to oranges compared to this Tremor, but may help change Fords tune to put the Powerboost in there to compete.
I just drove this stretch of highway for the first time this summer (22). The grades on descent and climb are pretty eye opening, what a great way to showcase towing performance!
I bet government agencies will get a base version of this truck. It'll have the suspension, drivetrain and tires with an XL interior. That's what I would want for working
This might be a stretch and some may say I'm crazy but I'd love to see the old trusty f100/250 on the Ike gauntlet hell or just towing around town in general the 300 still has some juice left maybe electronic power steering is in order first and brakes oh and a dedicated receiver hitch it's alot I know but worth it
Watching at 4:30 am in the LBC. Always good to watch a guanlet test with the OGs.
You guys should do RV Ikes. A lot of people like to pull large RVs with 1/2 tons.
That would add another element of wind and truck stability too
Love the Ike Gauntlets with Mr. Truck.
Thanks so much
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I always look forward to your Super Ike content. Will you do that for this truck? I like how a couple years ago you did a super Ike mashup between Nissan, Ford, Dodge, and Chevy. Please do that again and include the Toyota.
Can you set it and forget it at the top of the Ike? Thought you guys were going to start running the Ike with cruise control enabled. I was looking forward to this, especially on the downhill, considering that most vehicles will auto downshift to control speed. I would like to see how capable the truck is in managing its speed through the transmission with the least amount of input from the driver. And no, coasting down the Ike hoping the transmission holds your speed isn't the same thing. If you do try this methodology, you'll have to adjust your break point for over-speed as most won't downshift until 5-7mph over the set point.
Agreed. Coasting downhill is a measure of gravity, wind resistance and internal friction. I don’t understand why they continue to count break applications. Even more an issue with a diesel with engine breaking.
because adaptive cruise equipped trucks use their brakes until they over heat and then suddenly shut off.
it isn't coasting, its using the engine as an air pump to slow the combo.
finally, you aren't supposed to tow with cruise control in teh mountains as stated in the manuals even in 2021.
This is what I wait for every year. Excellent job as always!
Just got my tremor last week. The rake is insane on it so not surprised it towed this well. I only tow like 2,500 lbs so I’ll be adjust the insane rake a bit.
that little thing that Mr. Truck said about the electrical connector opening up is huge, before with it opening down debris would always get caught in the connector when loading and unloading the bed and cause my trailer lights to act up. Glad to see ford fixed that
Yeah, we had to use duck tape a few times
Should see how fast old red will pull that tremor up the hill!
Interesting!!
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I knew this video was coming next. I spied the tremor in the background as the camera car in the last IKE!
You can't add the torsen front axle on the lower trim levels as I understand it.
Here I am just waiting to see if TFL will test the ecoboost 2.7 max payload trucks and how they handle their new 10k lb tow rating.
As well as the gm duramax 1500 with their new 12k lb tow rating :(
Haha, the Tremor hauled the same load up the same mountain in the same time as the 702hp Ram TRX. It did that with a whole Ford 2.7tt LESS engine capacity at surprisingly low rpm in 6th gear !!
To be fair though this is a speed limited endeavor. Also fuel consumption appears to be greater Despite that lower capacity, and low rpm may not be beneficial even if it has power available.
It's not a race, the TRX held the speed limit with ease.
@@tumbleweedking5668 And so did the Tremor, your comment is pointless, AS I SAID, the Tremor did it in the same time, used the same amount of fuel, BUT is only a 400hp engine, giving away a WHOLE EcoBoost 2.7 twin turbo engine's worth of displacement. Give this motor some REAL credit mate !!
It did it sure, but not as efficient. At least it didn’t overheat this time with the elevation and turbos like the other time.
@@arkhsm what do you mean by used the same amount of fuel? There was a substantial difference between the two right?
All those pricy features are what makes the Tremor such a nice truck. Try buying a Raptor with that many features and see what you pay. Don't forget the ADM on the Raptor. I owned an 18 Raptor and now have a 22 Tremor. I see the Tremor as a Raptor with good road manors. I don't do any off roading, so paying $30k more for a truck harder to drive on the highway makes no sense for me.
I watch almost every video u guys make. Then I go to my local dealership and they have 3 new vehicles. Yes, 3. One explorer, one ranger, and one escape. Sad times.
Get use to it. It’s build back better on steroids.
@@smarticus6384 yup.
I went 7 minutes wondering what emgine was in this mode and then finally some info. Good test
Thanks, I was wondering
Did you really need this video for that?
Tremor is such a nice looking truck.
It really is. I love the leveled stance.
Looks like the ugly gm trucks in the front. I'll pass.
@@jacobstrutner8232Glad you let us know.
The tow test rules! Mr. Truck in the house and all is well. 🤙🏼🙏🍀
I appreciate that
Oil temp when pulling?
3.5 EcoBoost, while generating a lot of power for the size of the engine is too small for truck applications. My 2019 F150 FX4 Lariat with Max Tow and the 3.5 EcoBoost has 47000 miles and is underperforming already on power and fuel economy which I attribute to early wear-out. Fuel economy is off a good 3mpg from what it got when new and when I tow it is working way harder than it used to. Of the 47000 miles, about 6000 miles are towing a 6000 lb travel trailer, the rest is about 70% highway, 30% city. I have been looking for a new F150 with the V8, but can't find them anywhere and Ford won't even let you do a build for order online with the V8 engine.
Ford made a mistake discontinue the 3.0L Powerstroke. At almost 85k miles it still runs like new including towing.
May consider the RAM and GM twins if you want a diesel 6 and or a v8 option (despite the cylinder deactivation) for a majority of trims. The 2022 GMC to me is equally equipped to the top trims of Ford and RAM minus panoroof.
If your truck is that far down on power and economy than it's broke and you should take it to a mechanic. I have the same year with 70k miles and I live in the mountains with no issues. I'm also a mechanic. What does your maintenance history look like?
@@mmholling87 Yeah he's either lying or there's a problem. Ecos are built strong and will last long time in trucks.
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That’s a beautiful truck. If I bought an F-150 it would be a Tremor!
I really like these F150 Tremors.
Andre, would you consider comparing both the regular "consumers" HD tructs and the commercial variants for this years gold hitch awards? The different power ratings has always boggled my mind. I am curious to find out if the commercial variants have less power and are less efficient/capable.
Is there a score sheet somewhere or is this the fist score?
What year is the old Ford pickup being towed?
The TRX had the same load got way better mpg
Because it stopped to overheat 🤣
@@freedomisntfree_44 That was the Chevy video and I remember the video where the Ford went into limp mode
@@gbaby4rb64 the trx did when they tested the silver trx
When towing eco boosts are no better. Rev at a higher rpm to achieve power, V8’s not so much. Everyday driving not so much. Eco is better on fuel. My brothers Ford eco got the same mileage as my 6 L GM and we both towed fifth wheels. He was revenge higher.
@@ramrider1453 clear you’ve never driven an ecoboost, show me another half ton that runs 2800 rpm running up that hill… I’ll wait. That’s what the ecoboost is KNOWN for is low rpm high torque. They say that a lot on this channel as well.
I'm looking at using my Tremor to tow a travel trailer. What would be your recommendation on max tow weight and max tow length to safely tow and stop? TIA
Why was the TRX not scored for GoldHitch awards?
Because it was a super Ike (fully loaded) with the TRX.
@@TFLtruck Yet achieved better fuel mileage...
@@shadowwolfmandan because the computer won't show less than 4.7 mpg on the TRX.
Great way to start a Friday morning
Did you guys get new cameras? This video is sooo crisp!
I quite like the Tremor, but the fake air vents annoy me. Killer item though, I won't consider it without the hybrid and the high power A.C. output.
This kind of truck is too big for my area, I live in europe so I can't even buy one, I can't afford one, I don't have anything to tow, and never had. But I watch every Ike Gauntlet😝. My dailydriver is 1.0, 3 cyl. 155 bhp ecoboost engine😊
Trust me. Most people in America that buy these trucks don’t have anything to tow either🤣
If this doesn’t sell anyone on a 3.5 EcoBoost… I don’t know what will.
Ford’s testing on the first gen engine was absolutely insane.
TEAM two Questions for you- 1) Do you think the tremor will be a short run option or Permanent like FX4? 2) Why does Ford not push the Tremor brand aka as in swag or build a fan base? Thx guys!
F-150 Tremor is in it's 3rd year now. There's also the F-250 Tremor, Ranger Tremor and Maverick Tremor. All seem to be in high demand. I think it will be around for a while. There is a Tremor forum.
Mr.Truck and the Mad Russian at it again, you guys always put a smile on my face!
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The 2.7 with 3.73 rear end also has a 10k towing....but would it do it with the ease of the 3.5 or 5.0? That is a question Andre can work on.
Tremor only comes with the 3.5
@@12pawsinn maybe then but at least for 2023 The V8 is standard on tremor. The 3.5L turbo v6 is optional. The one in this video is a turbo v6
Mr. Truck said we need bigger mountains, that's exactly what I was thinking. The poor little Eisenhower grade just does not do it any more. Technology has officially conquered it.
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Love the TRX photobomb by Roman 🤣
Still think they should offer this Tremor in a SuperCab with 6.5 foot bed, it would be the same length as a SuperCrew & give people the option of of a non cylinder deactivated 5.0L V8 too?
Yesss been waiting for this one!!!
Tfl haven't been seeing much off road content. Have I just been missing it
Given the 3” squat, would you recommend airbags or sumo springs?
That would stiffen your suspension which defeats the whole purpose of an off road truck
@@TheJoncic I added the sumo springs that replace the bump stops, eliminated the porpoise effect with out changing the unloaded performance. Admittedly I don’t do serious off roading with it but it’s a tremor not a raptor. But your point is valid nonetheless
I'd rather have this with the Coyote and 6-1/2 ft. box......
Buy that then and modify to your liking.
I wanna see turbo temp when pulling with these.havent seen one yet
I want one with a 5.0!
I like the Tremor. Looks like Chevy needs to just slightly up their Trailboss game without encroaching on the ZR2... Chevy needs to offer a front electric locker on the Trailboss along with 33's and a metal front skidplate that warps up the front bumper. And the Zr2 needs 35's standard... Just a thought. An optional supercharged engine on the ZR2 would make it perfect
Thanks for the review Mr truck and TFL. Hey ford I'll trade my 2018 F150 5.0L Fx4 for a tremor straight swap I'll test it out for ya long term.
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the tongue weight is only rated for 500 lbs or 1150 i believe with a WD hitch setup, could be why there is alot of squat, i have the same truck in 401a and a 7000# travel trailed thats 650 tongue weight and with the WD hitch truck is still amost level, although looks like you have spring bars on there?
Hello guys! Great video and information. In your opinion, could this truck be good to tow a camper/trailer up to 10,000 lbs?
Can you all do the 2021 2.7L EB?
Can we put air bag suspension on it?
Looks like Mr Truck is grabbing those OS handles pretty hard. Andre, how you driving, bro? 🤣🤣
It would be much more entertaining if you put the new truck on the trailer instead! I just love fireworks!!
Great review with Andre and Mr Truck. Too bad the camera can't take Roman out of the view. Lol
Squat is easily fixed with air bags
They need a 6.5 bed option. Make it something people can work out of and play with in the weekends
They already don't sell enough 6.5ft beds on regular F-150s. It would make no sense to put one on an off-road truck.
Already have a short bed raptor for off-road. The tremor is axles and suspension. No frame modification. It wouldn’t cost them anything to add different configurations. 5.5 is pretty useless for anyone using it as a truck.
You don’t want 6.5 for off roading.
@@waled121 eh, the trucks massive already- why not be able to haul all the gear i take? also a 6.5 supercab option would be the same length as the current supercrew/5.5
I agree; 5.5’ bed on a truck is like an suv without a cap.
I love the tremor on that F-150 but for the 68k price tag I would absolutely go for the super duty diesel tremor, since you can’t get a hybrid F-150 tremor I would go all in for the towing and payload capabilities of a super duty for that price tag.
This is why I wish Ford kept making the F250 Tremor in the XLT level. But I’m guessing that’s why they stopped. It’s over $70k for a F250 Tremor with the diesel and a few options that compare with the $68k F150. But for a few thousand lots of people will compare them.
Just dumped my 22 Tremor, lost my shirt big time. Where do I start, transmission issues, engine consuming coolant, distorted radio, grinding noise left front that could be felt in steering wheel, rattles from underneath, dealer never resolved issues. Truck cost me 78K out the door, I was able to get 40. 37K loss in less than a year of owning.
thats the best looking ford i have ever seen what year is that?
I would like to see retro towing and performance on older trucks. I had 2 first gen Dakotas, one with a 5.2 V8 and one with a 3.9 V6. Both extended cab 4x4. An 08 Colorado Z71 4x4 wich did real good and now an 06 Dakota crew cab SLT 4x4 I haven't towed with yet. I'd love to see older trucks compared
My latest project truck is a 1994 with 5.2L. As soon as Ruben rebuilds my transmission, I'll talk Andre into something
My 18 3.5 would never make that pull without overheating
Sounds like something might be wrong with it then.
@@ALMX5DP no one can find a problem only does it pulling up hill with boost. Lots of people are having the same problem
@@skigod9 dang, have you tried putting in manual and locking into a low gear to keep rpms a bit higher? Ecoboosts generate tons of heat when at full boost and low rpm. Tow haul may not be smart enough to kick down since there’s technically plenty of power. Also locking into one gear means the torque converter should lock up too so won’t allow heat to built in the transmission fluid.
@@skigod9 my '15 3.5L did the same thing. Couldn't find why. Now I have 18 3.0L Powerstroke and no issues towing in the mountains.
@@ALMX5DP o yeah that was step one Iv done basically everything but try meth injection to lower iat
They should being back the 3.0 Powerstroke and make it available across the board in all trim levels
Don't know if you guys seen or not but the newest toyota video that just came out showed the new Tundra with air bags to level the loads out
A narrow affordable version of the svt raptor, manufacturers giving the customers more available choice of trims for our liking.
Andre and Mr. Truck for the win! 😁
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The main reason why i like the Ford car brand is because the logo has naver changed since the first car was released. Full of consistency .🙂
Well that’s kind of right. The blue oval has been around a long time, but wasn’t the first Ford emblem and the shape of the oval and font used to spell Ford has changed many times over the years
Ahh yes. It’s the logo I want, not the vehicle.
Kent, the 3.73:1 rear axle will give you more engine breaking than the taller gears will, not less. That’s because for any given road speed, you will have more engine speed.
Maybe a taller rearend gearing would allow downshifting to second gear at 50mph.
I miss the reg cab tremor
The front end of that truck had me fooled..
I was thinking it was an F250 for a while until I got my brain straightened out,,, great looking machine !!
Looks ugly and copied gm truck. Regular f150 looks nothing like this
@@jacobstrutner8232 It literally has nothing in common with GM truck styling...
Safeweigh is a tongue weight hitch company. Has a built in scale. Might be good for your reviewing and testing
You think they’re not aware of those?
What did the Ram Rebel score in this test?
It didn't make it to the test
Glad to see the real content coming back
Awesome video gents!
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I miss all the ike gauntlets,
I kinda miss the Sunday morning mini series......
It would be interesting to see how the new 5.0 F-150 Tremor does relative to the Ecoboost model.