Ultimate UST Projector Screen Comparison - 8 CLR/ALR Screens Tested and Reviewed
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- How much difference does a projector screen make? Is there a big difference between a $400 screen and a $1300 screen? I tested 8 ultra short throw projector screens to see which one had the best brightness, contrast, black levels, clarity, and ambient light rejection.
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Best Overall (by a significant margin):
Formovie Fresnel 100" ALR
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Top Lenticular CLR Fixed Frame Screens:
(Best Value) Nothing Projector CLR
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(Best Performing) Spectra Vantage
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Best Performing and Best Value Floor Rising Screen:
Vividstorm S-Pro 100"
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Other Screens Tested:
Akia Screens CLR2 Fixed Frame: amzn.to/3ZWn0lJ
Nothing Projector Floor Rising: nothingprojector.com/products...
Elite Screens CLR2 Floor Rising: amzn.to/41ZUaTl
Wemax Lenticular CLR: amzn.to/3l1exPz
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00:00 Introduction
00:40 Screen Overviews and Construction
05:51 Spectra Retest
07:32 Floor Rising Screens
09:17 Screen Gain Testing
10:50 Black Floor
11:34 Ambient Light Rejection
13:27 Resolution and Clarity (Microscopic)
14:56 Side by Side Testing (fixed frame)
19:07 Side by Side Testing (floor rising)
21:02 Top Picks - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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Hi! I’m about to purchase this screen (VIVIDSTORM CineVision Pro Fixed Frame Fresnel UST ALR Projector Screen) for my AWOL ltv 3500 pro. Would really appreciate your thought on how it compares with the fixed frame winner of this video, which is formovie one. Thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hey Rob! If you remember, I asked you about the Hisense F100w 100"ALR fresnal hard screen and you said it was a nice screen. Well, I have had it for 2 weeks and not disappointed in the slightlest. 50lbs of solid light rejecting image!
@@kriswingert1662 50lbs? That's wild. I bet the Formovie is more like 20lbs.
This guy has to be one of the most valuable TH-camrs on the platform.
You stole my words pal !
*most valuable reviewer in the universe
Maybe at the same level as The Farm Project
Agreed!!!, 👍
He's like the ultimate good guy to give you all the details and you fully knowing you won't get fucked in the ass.
Yet another jaw-droppingly excellent, thorough, and invaluable YT video from Mr. Hook Up. Taking the liberty of speaking for all of us projector nerds, a HUGE thank you!
Incredible review of the different screens giving people real data they can see. Fantastic job!
Just as I'm thinking about replacing my TV with a UST Projector, this guy answers my screen questions, with science, data, and hands on experience. Love it.
This definitely makes it a little easier for me to choose what to get next as a screen.. keepup the fun reviews and thanks for going through all the pain. cheers.
Once again, well done, thank you for putting in so much time and effort to make these excellent comparisons.
I love your videos because you show a high level of knowledge and sophistication combined with practical application.
I tried to get Brian to do a comparison like this months ago, and posted the challenge on AVS forum. Brian said his Spectra screen was better, and I asked, why? He said it was too hard to do a comparison, but you did it. Awesome job!!! I bought security cameras based on your comparison of those too!
Thank you for the comparisons. I have the 100" Vividstorm Pro S that I use for demonstrations and home shows in pavilions with tons of ambient light.
Outstanding video! You are making the exact videos I need.
Just stumbled upon this channel.
Have to say, this is one of the most information rich channels I have ever seen.
Bravo sir and anyone involved.
As always phenomenal review, numbers talk, but real viewing results are as important, as much as cost!
Oh my goodness that is a LOT of work! My sincere appreciation! Will definitely use your links, hope they work for Canada!
One of the best review I seen on TH-cam in longtime, keep up the good work and keep on growing!
All the info I needed and no extras. Thank you for all the work on this.
You went above and beyond. Thank you for the reviews.
Dude your content is always so bad ass. Thank you soooo much for uploading
Great video! would love to include another testing with more ALR Fresnel screens, not just one among the sea of CLR screens
First found you searching for good security camera, glad you're branching out, you're reviews are so super thorough and real I feel like I'm there. I would absolutely buy anything you recommended if I liked it and was in the market lol.
by far the best reviewer in TH-cam, period.
He’s right up there with Project Farm
Your channel deserves all that comes its way. Swiftly earned a like and sub. Keep up the excellent work
I love how he doesn't bullshit around just the facts and fast as possible. I was gonna just watch 5 minutes of it and ended up watching the whole thing. Well done
Exactly my thoughts! Thats some serious NO BULLSHIT approach
Dude! You are awesome! You and Project Farm are all I need.
Two of our favorite channels as well!
I ended up ordering the Nothing Projector black series 120" screen and it's paired with my Epson LS800 and I F'N love it! Perfect viewing in all conditions.... I swear it looks like a 120" LED screen..... This was an incredible purchase and less than 1k..... If it wasn't for your review I would have never considered purchasing this...... I love it.... thanks again!
Cheers! Glad to hear you love it.
i got the Vividstorm S-Pro 110in floor rising ALR, got it at a discount
Great video and comparison! This really helped me narrow down what screen to purchase!
Wow, the time and effort to review this jaw dropping
Another excellent video!
Wow that is one thorough and meticulous review👍👍👍
Best projection tech reviewer so far.
The most complete presentations I ever seen on youtube
THERE IS WORK BEHIND THIS VIDEO; BRAVO AND THANK YOU. i liked and got abonné
This is the only video I’ve ever watched that actually made me like and subscribe out of sheer respect
another insane video! thank you for doing this!
Im amazed by the level of detail of your reviews, thanks a bunch! Im about to buy everything for my setup and im following your advice
What did you decide on?
@@TheHookUp I'm going for the Formovie Theater UST projector paired with the Formovie Fresnel ALR Projector Screen!
Thats a great plan
@demontmx Did you buy the Formovie Theater and screen? What's your experience been? I'm debating between the Spectra 100, Formovie 100 and AWOL Daylight 100 screens and am losing my mind!
Thanks Rob. Great comparison.
My dude you're killing it, no one comes close! Most valuable tuber out there on this scene hands down
Love your reviews!
You're the man! Thank you for the very detailed review.
you just made the best video. phenomenal job
subscribed. amont of work you put in to these videos is so great! thanks!
This guy is the MAN! I have not seen anyone who has done more testing to help us out in finding the right screen. I emailed him to ask his opinion on a screen and he was quick to respond and had info I did not. Thanks to him, I will be getting a great screen and a bargain price. If you have not subscribed yet, PLEASE do so, his content is definately worth your time!
Perfect video, thanks for your efforts.
I learned so much from this video! THANK YOU!
I REALLY appreciate the effort you put into these videos!!! When you give advice, it's advice you can trust! Btw could you do a video on smart thermostats? Interested in Beok, but can't find any info
What a great review. Thank you for detailed explanation
Splendid demo and info well done 👏🏼 👍🏼
Thank you from England 🏴
Very thorough review as usual. Hope we see larger (> 120") ALR screens becoming more common.
I know the spectra comes in up to 150", and I've heard rumors of the formovie fresnel screen being offered in 150", but I don't think it's for sale yet.
@@TheHookUp The Formovie Fresnel will be available in a 120" but no ETA quite yet.
@@ProjectorScreen Thanks! Any updates on this? Their website only shows the 100" and it's been a year now! Thanks!
Nobody even comes close to you. Thank you for your work and time sharing this info with us.
Good job Rob!
Unbelievable work!
THANK YOU so damn much for the effort you put into this video.
Amazing no nonsense review!
Amazing Presentation. Congrats
This is a top tier video right here.
Fantastic review👍👍
thanks for the effort, very well analysis
Amazing video. So informative!
Great review, thanks!
We needed this video
Absolutely amazing review. makes me regret having paid 1700 cdn for an elite screens CLR1 screen just a few months ago. Very disappointed with its performance for the price I paid.
great job on this shootout
Immensely valuable content. Thank you so much!
You good sir, are a national treasure. Seriously, my jaw is on the flaw. Thank you! 👍
Excellent video!
Excellent reviews I can understand, thanks
Thank you for the comparison video! Due to my own room constraints, I'll be opting for a floor rising screen and your comparison was perfect for me to have confidence doing so!
I will add, the cost comparison between the Nothing Projector and the Vivid Screen may not hold up depending on your location. Nothing Projector is offering FREE SHIPPING worldwide regardless of screen size, whereas Vivid Screen is charging an additional $380 for shipping a 120" to the US pacific NW.. This leads to the Vivid being $280 more expensive for an essentially comparable screen!!!
I've been going down the rabbit hole researching everything UST projectors for a while...never owned a projector before and want to make sure I'm confident before pulling the trigger on such a big investment. Just found this channel and this seems like the best resource out there for in-depth knowledge on everything projection. One thing I'm wondering...I've seen some Pet Crystal ALR screens out there for a bit cheaper than the Fresnel screens, and I've seen some say that it's even better for deeper black levels than Fresnel. For context, it would be in my basement where there is some ambient light-- walls are already a dark color, ceiling is white but I'd be willing to paint it and get some blackout curtains for the windows. I'd love some of your wisdom on the pros/cons of Pet Crystal vs. Fresnel, specifically the Formovie and Spectra ones. Thanks again for being such a great resource!
I'm in same case as you. I'm trying to decide if XYscreen pet cristal or formovie fresnel. The Xiaomo fabulus F1 had lots of reflections on near walls, but the formovie fresnel is nearly same as fabulous F2. It is supposed that F2 or formovie fresnel will have less reflections.
Amazing review
Ok, you just made the best video ever made on TH-cam
Great work and finally someone that review CLR and ALR screens for laser ust projectors, much appreciated! But i missing 3 brands... The MirraViz, Screen Innovations (SI) and BORDER REEN-X screens. It would be great if you would test this in the near future.
MirraViz doesn't have a tensioned version yet and their previous version suffers is not an option for most people because the seams between the individual panels are clearly visible, and because the adhesive transfers imperfections from the wall onto the screen. When they release their tensioned version I'll be sure to review it. I did reach out to Screen Innovations, but they did not respond. I've never heard of BORDER REEN-X, looks like an indiegogo screen?
Just looked a little more into the BORDER screen, even their own marketing material looks bad. Check out this video where they compare it to a non-tensioned ALR screen. The ALR contrast and black levels are WAY better than their own screen: th-cam.com/video/IpX9GL6XzHQ/w-d-xo.html
Another great review. Would have liked to see a couple of things, but maybe for a part 2: which screen performed the best with 3D content; would have liked to have a full white screen with a gain of 1.3 be included to see how it performs in zero light environment; would have liked for you to test the mirraviz screen as those are supposedly the brightest.
White screens really only work in a dedicated space. Even though my garage has almost zero ambient the walls and ceiling are too reflective to use a white screen.
@@TheHookUp i have 2 fix frame white screens 92 and a 120 inch . Have almost completely made mind up to paint both screens eith a light mat grey paint.
Until I can afford 2 new screens . Your detailed comment above definitely convinced me . Thank you
Awesome comparison.
You have done an amazing job in reviewing and comparing the many different screen and UST options. Curious if you can do a comparison with USTs and non-ALR or CLR screens. For those of us using a UST in a small dedicated theater room
White is okay, non-UST specific ALR screens have significant hotspotting.
Awesome research and great video. This is the video I've so desperately needed to see. Thanks for the master class! I'll be watching this video a few more times.
Your timing is impeccable (for me) - I'm an Indiegogo early adopter, impatiently awaiting my Philips Screeneo U5 (expected late March 2023).
Philips recommends a fresnel (is the "s" silent?) projector screen.
Do all UST projectors have essentially the same tech to shoot their lasers?
Crazy that these "special" (ALR / CLR) screens cost almost as all the tech in a UST projector.
Can a screen be ALR & CLR, or is that marketing mumbo jumbo?
I've never done patreon or paid for a "Thanks" - do you get 100% of the cut, or does Patreon / TH-cam get a cut too? I'm definitely paying you for this one, sir!
Me too mate, I bought (perhaps prematurely) the vividstorm screen tested in this video. After watching I'm relieved by my choice 🙂 and can confirm it came in good condition. We will see how it goes once the projector arrives! Probably not until May 😅
ALR is a superset of CLR. ALR is Ambient Light Rejection and CLR is Ceiling Light Rejection. ALR rejects ceiling light as well as light from the sides
You are in the lead when it comes to making these type of video comparisons. If I was in the hunt for one of these screens, it would have been an easy decision thanks to your help. I am in a different situation, I already made the investment and bought an Akia white standard 125 inch stationary projector screen. Would be super duper awesome if you would make a video on ALR UST fabric options I can replace/upgrade my projector screen material with.
The screen material is 90% of the cost, you won't save any significant amount of money by reusing the frame, especially since 125" is a pretty non-standard frame size. White screens are still good for ambient light controlled environments, maybe the solution is upgraded blackout curtains or blinds?
Oh, you mean just high contrast grey? I was talking ALR/CLR which are much more fragile. Yes, there are tons of options for screen fabric, the cheapest place to get custom sizes is carls place.
love this video, btw has Vividstorm mentioned anything about using frenal screens in their product in the future or any plans?
Amazing content, thanks a lot.
Thanks Rob. Really like your scientific approach to testing. Testing lower priced equipment as you do also helps ordinary people get a lot more value for money. 👍🏻
Constructive criticism: Perhaps the relevant on-paper test results could be shown below the side-by-side comparison so the video could be a bit shorter. And the discrepancy between official specs and measured specs is maybe more of a general point to make, since for the purposes of a comparison, only your measurements count (for consistency).
Anyway, keep up the good work!
Just trying to be as transparent as possible. TH-cam is absolutely overrun with paid reviews and people just reading the specs off of the product description. I wanted people to know exactly where my numbers came from and how those corresponded to the numbers listed by the manufacturers.
@@TheHookUp Sure. Completely agree that we don’t need another comparison of false specs 😊
You're the man bro, I love you.
Really the best video or even best report I have seen on this topic.
I would be interested in the partially less good but larger versions around 150 inches. Pro Screen with the T-Prism screens, XY and Spectra offer that. With Spectra, I don't think there are any major drawbacks, but I would be interested in the price performance of a Pro-Screen in relation.
I've had comparison samples come in from Vividstorm, Pro Screen, and Hivilux, but at that size, it was impossible to judge.
It was interesting that the samples from the same manufacturer sometimes differed significantly.
In general, I think that only really large screens can create a cinema experience.
But your video is great, I would not have thought that the Fesnel screens are any good or "Nothing" can really deliver own, good quality. Have many thanks for the great effort, which one can really perceive immediately!
Do you still suggest Pro Screen 150” for formovie?
Thank you for yet another excellent video! Towards the end of the video you make reference to waiting to get a Formovie Fresnel in a floor rising setup - do you have any insight if this is in the pipeline? If so, I'll hold off since it sounds like you were really blown away by it! For reference, I have a BenQ HT-2060 projector.
I'm buying a cheap screen but I'm commenting for the algorithm because the level of effort is unmatched!
High value video. 👍
I would love to see a test on the Screenpro T-prism ALR UST screen. They seem to be taking a slightly different approach with their lenticular screen, with different shaped ribs and PVC material instead of PET.
Love your work. Excellent value. I just subscribed to your channel.
I am trying to make a decision between the Nothing projector CLR screen vs. the AWOL Cinematic ALR Screen for a short throw projector. Have you done any comparison? Any thoughts to share?
Fantastic comparison. The only of this kind I think. You compared the combination of things I have and am considering. I currently have a vividstorm 120" rising screen paired with the formovie theater and enjoying it. Though I've considered getting a Spectra Vantage 150" screen for my living room then move the 120" to my bedroom. I was considering maybe getting an AWOL 3500 for my living room and moving the formovie theater to my bedroom since the extra brightness might help increase the viewing with ambient light. Since it seems you already have the footage could you post a video comparing the Formovie and AWOL side by side in your bright and dark room setups using both the Spectra Vantage and the Vividstorm (your two top picks as it happens)... to use them as a baseline to compare the formovie and awol would be really interesting and extremely helpful.
How do you like 120" floor rising screen? I am considering same combo as you have. Any negative side in this combo?
Great work! If only you had tested the Spectra 150 inch 😊
Thanks for the great video. What luxmeter did you use in this video?
Thanks much appreciated! 🍻
Awesome video as usual, thank you. What would be a good screen for long throw projector viewing? Or the specs?
Really thorough review, now has me looking up fresnel ALR screens, but they seem to ask be for ultra short throw projectors. Do you have any brand recommendations for a standard throw?
Thank you!
Thank you for the reviews, excellent! Can you do a review of the Awol Vision Daylight ALR Screen against the Spectra Vantage?
Loved this, but... In light of your comment that you really think that FRESNEL screens are the future, any chance at all that you could do a new video with more of these than just the Foremovie one? Or better yet, doing a comparison with ONLY FRESNEL (maybe against your best ALR screen as per this current video)? And jacking this up to 120" selections sure would be nice too... Great job on this video, and many thanks!
At the back of my mind I was worried that the pitch of the sawtooth ridges would clash with the native resolution of the projector but the hook up proved that all of the screens reviewed was ample enough to accommodate even an 8k projector.
Hey, great video, very informative!
I've just snagged the Formovie Fresnel screen you've featured, but realized it has a 50-degree view angle (whoops, my mistake). Wondering if I should reconsider.
Here are my specifications:
- Room size: 28m² (4.8m x 6m)
- Viewer-screen distance (from the main key viewing area which is a sofa directly perpendicular on the center of the screen): 4.5m
- Room width from screen center: 4m right, 2m left
- Another key viewing area: Dining space, 3m right from screen's center
- Ambient light: Glass door and window to the screen's right and overhead ceiling light.
Given my setup, including a Philips Screeneo U5 UST projector with 2000 ANSI Lumens, would this screen suit my needs, or should I consider buying another screen? What are your thoughts? In the case I should change the screen - what are your suggestions in the same price range (fixed frame is fine)?
Thanks in advance for the help!
Would love to see a Fresnel specific comparison video! ForMovie vs VIVIDSTORM CineVision Pro vs FSCREEN 120"
Great breakdowns. I would love to see a comparison with a DIY screen with material from Carl's Place, since that's a popular cheaper option.
If you have a UST I’d always recommend a UST screen. The outcome will bee 100x better.
@@TheHookUphow much would it really matter in a 0 ambient total light controlled room though?
Just ordered that formovie for my UST, big windows to the side and I really hope it will do the magic
As long as your viewing angles are appropriate you'll be blown away.
Appreciate your video review of the various screens. Have you ever looked at the Grandview ust screen
I have not.