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Most EXPENSIVE irons I’ve ever tested & much more - Review Show #2
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Most expensive irons I’ve ever tested & much more - Review Show #2
In the second instalment of The Review Show PGA Professional Rick Shiels reviews some of the hottest products in golf.
In this episode Rick Shiels reviews the brand new Odyssey Golf Stroke Lab 10 putter, the Honma Golf Future XX golf ball and the TaylorMade Golf P790 TI irons.
The Odyssey Golf Stroke Lab 10 putter looks very familiar and has pretty much the exact same shape as the TaylorMade Golf Spider putter. The TaylorMade spider has won on The PGA Tour & The European Tour and has been in the bags of Rory McIlroy, Jason Day and Dustin Johnson.
Rick also puts the Honma Future XX ball to the test. Will it perform like the Titleist Pro V1, Titleist Pro V1x or the TaylorMade TP5?
Lastly, Rick tests the brand new TaylorMade P790 Ti irons. They are some of TaylorMades most expensive golf clubs ever! Will they stop you shanking the golf ball? Stop you slicing the golf ball? Stop you hitting behind the golf ball? Possibly not, but in this video Rick Shiels gives you his honest opinion on the irons!
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Hi I’m Rick Shiels, welcome to my channel RickShielsPGAGolf. This TH-cam channel is designed to help you play better golf, also to help you enjoy your golf more!
I specialise in golf club reviews, golf club unboxing, golf club news, golf club head to heads, and all about golf clubs.
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Which do you prefer Odyssey Black 10 or TaylorMade Spider?
Neither
Rick Shiels Golf TaylorMade spider
Rick Shiels Golf Taylormade Spider
Defo the Odyssey Black 10 - I reckon Batman would play with this...
prefer the looks of the TaylorMade (smoother look) but i do like the look of the Bird Of Prey putter
Never leave a comment but just want to say it's so refreshing how honest these reviews are and you don't get caught up in any hype or consumerism. Keep up the fantastic work as usual!
Thanks Trevor
Can't wait to buy these in a couple of years for 300 quid!!
😂
Can't wait to buy these in a couple of decades for 30 quid!!
_"100 years is a mere blink in the life of an elf."_
Let's hope the face is still ok in 2 years!
Anything TaylorMade has no value. It will be $300 a set in 6 months. Just wait, don’t buy now.
I find it quite interesting that this “copy” is a problem for people but no one seems to have a problem with almost every blade putter being a copy of Ping’s Anser design.
6:50 wow I can’t believe he hit all 3 tee shots right next to each other!!!
I prefer the “feel” of my money not being needlessly wasted
abstracthc all relative though isn’t it.... depends how much money you earn.
Nick S it’s a state of mind rather than a tax bracket. Only goofy gentiles buy into these inflated implements.
abstracthc agreed... But if they enjoy it then they don’t feel like they’re wasting their money do they? :) Someone making 50k a year would indeed think these are a complete waste of money!
Nick S All goes without saying. However I choose to face reality square. That’s why I like golf, The ball doesn’t lie
HAHAH, that's the comment of the day.
I tested the P790ti's last fall and could not believe them. Not sure the lofts on them but the 7-iron was going 200 carry and rolling to 205 and felt incredible. when the saleman told me the price my stomach almost emptied itself.
For that price those irons better turn me into Tiger Woods .....or atleast Rick Shiels.
Even though I’ve got no intention of buying any of them, loved the video.
Dan Thomas r u from fox hills in Michigan?
Liking the "new" odyssey putter!
Could you do a video on when to/not to tee up on par 3 holes? And the pros vs. cons of doing both.
Tyler Campbell it’s all personal preference man. When do u want more or less spin, distance, etc.
I love my P790S. But the Ti would not pay the price and a couple of yards sometimes gets you in trouble. But if you are rich go for it not ME. I THINK THE BALL is a bit much if it's not going to last. The putter to big for me but I do like mallet putters. Great job Rick love the show
So what have we learned here a 28.5 degree “7 iron” goes further than a 30 degree “7 iron” in other news water..is wet.. fair play though Rick your honesty is why you are so respected 👌
Love these Rick - keep them coming. Would defo like to see this format for older clubs too and not just the new ones that are brought out 😁
Would love to see you review the cheapest irons next or compare them to the most expensive 👀
Good idea
Think he has. Pxg vs a really in expensive brand
Check out Ricks other videos. He has one for a low end set (180 IIRC). He had a lot of fun and with them. Rick got some other golfers to try them out on the course and the comments were entertaining.
Okay fake Rick Shiels account Mr John
I think Rick is probably the nicest bloke ever. I bought the ‘cheap’ Callaway clubs he tested (I can’t play golf) but looking forward to watching more and more videos and getting a coach to help me figure it all out. Rick has been the inspiration. Love the content.
Rick - my love for the game was started to dry up a bit the past couple of years.. Since stumbling onto your videos, you've really re-ignited my passion and excitement for it. Thanks for continuing to put out quality content and reviews such as this. They do wonders for getting me excited to try new things again. :)
Really like these video’s Rick. Clean, honest reviews. Yes the TM and Odyssey look quite the same. So then it comes down to how they feel on the course. That would be the thing that decides the one I would buy.
I'd really liked the club reviews when you brought in folks from around the course / different handicaps. You're a stellar golfer with a great swing, you can hit anything superbly well i think sometimes as a viewer its hard to decipher the results since you're so consistent across the board - just a really good golfer! ha. But i'd like to see the guy who shoots 95 and plays a high offset forgiving iron hit something like the new 790's i feel that would be a massive difference. But still love all the content, of course!
4 layer golf ball, 5 layer golf ball, SIX layer golf ball. We will be teeing up an onion soon.
Great video.
Thimng is, loads are happyto pay that. I still use an old set of wilson's from when i was a kid. I bought them one at a time every few months. I had them regriped a few years ago. Cleaned them a lot. They work fine
Love the video! That price is outrageous!
Loving the review shows Rick. Can't blame Odyssey for the Spider design. I love the Stroke Lab putters, the Stroke Lab 3 is by far the best putter I've ever had. Definitely agree with you the P790s look so much better than the TIs
Kav Coatman I agree..I got the stroke lab center shafted half mallet....best swinging putter I've ever had.
I don't even know how to golf or watch the sport of golf ,
and why am I watching his video,
it is kinda just really enjoyable to watch
The intro confused me because I thought an unbox therapy video started playing and then I hear a British voice and it took me a second to figure it out
I’m getting so disgusted with these prices, anyone with a brain knows the technology increase is minimal at best.
Taylormade and Maserati must be working together!
Marketing prices are sky high
Rick I have been watching your reviews for years. I miss the longest driver reviews, but this new format is really great! I think you are doing a great job. Keep up the excellent work! Also I am Odyssey loyal and would be interested in testing out the Black 10. Tried out the Spider X this year, but eventually went with the Stroke Lab 7 for my bag.
Hello Rick. I used to play with Ping S56 Irons and I changed to Taylor MB and I started hitting it farther, then I checked the lofts and as you mention, the new clubs were stronger. The main problem I have with this is that a get a huge gap between my wedges and my Pitching Wedge. So much that I had to leave the PIng PW in the Bag.
I carry a 60° a 54° and a 50° wedges.
I miss seeing you in the GC quad rick :(
The looks on a golf ball? Looks like a golf ball to me!
I love the new review show format and I look forward to the next one. So many products I wish I could try but I probably never will.
So much better than the first episode mate. Much more detail, narrowed it down to just 3 items and gave loads of insight into each one. Definitely a big improvement loved it
Thanks
You should also do a review on the new titlest trufeel
Rick: I dug my nail into it, I bit it a little bit and it felt soft and that is a good feature for me
Also Rick: After playing a few holes I was disappointed by the way that the cover was being damaged.
All golf balls after a few holes start to suffer especially in different conditions
I get it, that's funny. josh doesn't.
Think he said that after only two holes it had three "bite" marks.
I have a black pearl flange Honma putter similar to the classic Wilson 4402 yet smaller and it's the best thing ever.
Nearly $300 used on Ebay and I found it for $5.25 (Canadian dollars) in a thrift store.
Honma equipment rules.
Really love the way you review Golf Clubs! The Review show is definitely something i look forward to watching!
8:28 "Yeah! Here we go!"
Hi Rick, those look CHEAP Lol :)
Thanks for a brilliant review. These prices are getting far out of hand. I´m so glad you are making these video clips in 2160p resolution. They are so much better.
The review show is great! Love the format and the idea of reviewing multiple items at once. This seems like a more concise and refined version of what you used to do with reviews, so keep it up!
Loving the new format Rick👍👍
Thanks Harry mate
The TM iron heads look like something put together in a school tech class.
These reviews have brought me back to watching Rick again. Great content.
I've bought 2 different sets of irons over the years based off you're reviews and you were spot on with both sets but I cannot see paying that much for a set of irons. Keep up the good work, I appreciate what you do!
😳🤪Two thousand and what now, didn't spend that much on my last car 😂shouldn't these so called big companies bring out a range for beginners at a normal price level to get people interested in the game and help stop more courses closing 🤔2k 😂😂😂on ya bike 🚲 🤣🤣
Golf clubs have always been fairly cheap (till pxg) these companies know that for the guy with the 100K merc and 50k rolex, 3k for some irons is pocket change
@@krusher74 but for us mere mortals it's a new car or a family 👪 holiday..
@@mickbarron8346 Do you expect companies premium products to be affordable for the average earner?
@@krusher74 no that's exactly my point
They don't make clubs affordable for the beginners with as you put average earnings... Only my opinion by the way 👍
Ludicrous money for the irons. I’d rather sh*t in my hands and clap before paying that amount.
Sp!cyman 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s just money think about all the other bs you buy thoughout the year
@@roberthradsky6069 like a new roof on my house, a boiler, windows, car repairs food and clothes etc. We aren’t all wealthy mate.
LOL
i believe i'll pass on the rather option and just ignore these.
The stroke lab putter is the real deal. Although I don't have this model, the shaft weighting system really does make a nice rhythmic swing compared to traditional shafted putters......love it I do..
I appreciate the honest and thorough reviews. I think the price of golf clubs is getting ridiculous. The face of the driver has been the same for years aka the speed the ball leaves the face hasn't changed. A driver 5 years old has the exact same speed off the face as ANY new driver today. Don't believe the hype on these irons and new drivers. Learn to hit the ball in the center of the face.
Wow, that 4 iron has almost the same loft as my 2 iron ...
I bet!
Well the tech is probably great, but why make it a 4 iron? Just so people can say that they hit their 4 further than someone else? In the end it doesn't matter how far you hit a certain club, just how few hits you needed to get it in the hole 😅
BN Golf it flies as high as or similar to a four iron I assume. Just helps some players get more distance
My 7i is 34°. The Taylormade is 5.5° stronger! That's a club and a half. Truth be told, I like hitting my 7i 165 yards. It's totally predictable. If I need more distance, we'll, I simply take another club. I guess I'm old enough where ego and pride have taken a back seat.
THAT...….…...exactly! Iron numbers no longer mean anything now!
IF I WERE A BILLIONAIRE I WOULDN'T SPEND 3 GRAND ON A SET OF CLUBS . I'LL STICK WITH MY MIZUNOS
Tried a Taylormade Project A golf ball about 5 years ago and that Honma Dimple pattern looks EXACTLY like the Project A that I tried (when looking at it from the Alignment line on the ball). Absolutely did not like the look of that dimple pattern and was the reason why I did not test that Taylormade ball any further. But, a SIX LAYER golf ball is just getting mind blowing (because it's all about the feel and how much it will compress).
Maxfli made a 6 layer ball. When they released that U series in 2012. The reason they redesigned prov 1s in 2012 is bc the guy that was designing the 1 and the 1x (can’t remember his name) parted ways with titleist and designed the u4 and u4x and u6 and u6x, 4 and 6 piece balls, respectively.
10:00
I see you don’t have any shame in plugging yourself do you Ricky 😜
Im my own sponsor
Shameless self promotion. Its a have to as a business owner.
It’s a joke chill
They made those irons for people with more money than brains.
I recently saw a set of Honma Aizu clubs at the PGA Tour Superstore in Atlanta, GA. The set included driver, woods, irons, putter and a bag. Retail price was $65,000
Wowwwww
Seems a little high! Lol
Bargain
You are without doubt the very best I have followed you for a long time and thank you for improving my game keep up the good work cheers
This I why I like your videos Rick! You’re not afraid to call the big companies out on there pricing! Surely there has to be a ceiling to hit soon with the prices because £3000 is ludicrous! I still use fi5 Wilson’s and I love them!
The P790 TI seven-iron has almost the identical loft as my 1983 Ben Hogan Radial four -iron. Evidently the gimmick of putting a 7-iron label on a 4-iron can trick golfers into believing they've gained 30 yards via "modern technology."
Would be cool to see you build a bag with the most expensive golf clubs from Driver to putter. Would be interesting to see the totals
A comment on the stronger loft of the P790 Ti irons versus the P790. I saw another review of them and they came up with a pretty good justification for the loft. They do go farther largely due to that stronger loft and they have a lower spin to go with it, but they have about the same launch angle as the weaker lofted version. With the different materials and different weighting distribution they still launch a 7 iron at about the same angle. It's just accomplished with a different loft. Maybe the stronger loft isn't just so they can say they are longer. Maybe it's because they launch at the same angle.
I've been a big fan of the Odyssey putters, I grabbed the 2 ball as a beginner. I thought it was funny as all get out that Mr. Tulon "forgive the spelling" built the new design for Callaway.
That’s a crazy price for a set of irons, but fair play to Rick for a good honest review.
Rick - please review the Snell golf ball! Dean Snell helped design the original Pro V1 and then worked at Taylormade for 18 years as VP of R&D (oversaw the TP ball line specifically)
- I've been very impressed by the ball. Performs like a ProV1 but has the urethane cover of the TP5
- Cost is under $30/dozen if you buy in bulk
Great video! The main thing that irks my ire with some of the offerings club manufacturers put out is they deceive golfers who don’t pay attention to the lofts, and boosting confidence artificially. For example, I have a set of Titleist DCI irons I had custom fit for me back in 1993. The loft on my 7 iron is 36 degrees. The loft of a P790Ti 7 iron is 28.5 degrees. My 5 iron has 28 degrees of loft! I don’t mind 2-3 degrees of variance in loft between manufacturers. I consider that par for the course. This is exactly why I wish club manufacturers would be more honest, ditch the 3-PW naming convention, and only stamp the loft on the sole for identification. Just my opinion.
I've got the original P790s and they look premium compared to these P790 Titanium's - who at TM headquarters allowed these to be released when they look like something you'd buy at the pound shop... decent results though in your hands, I've hit the 7 iron and it just seemed a bit meh to look at address and soft/light, not sure if you felt that?... shame as I have no doubt they'd help us mid-to high handicappers and people who need help with distance but £3k!! . Great Video as always Rick.
If I was going to spend a bunch of cash on irons I might get the new PXG irons. I'm not saying they are worth the price, but they feel so solid when struck properly. I'm up for new irons this year and I'm going Mizuno. Woods will be Cobra and I'm good for another 8 years or so.
Love this new Review Show. Could send me broke if I had any money. Think my putter and rest of clubs are 15 years old - PowerBilt (I am still the only person I have know who use these). If I was going to change my putter a Spider would be my choice - now there are two choices. 👍🏻
Really impressed with the new format, thanks for your efforts. ( £2,900 ,not a cat in hell's chance )
Re: Toulon and the spider - this is the kind of insightful research and reporting we can expect from none other than Rick Shiels
He probably read this on Golf WRX, it was one of the top comments on this putter
Great review. I think we all enjoy the fact that it doesn't seam bias... other then pro-v's mabe J/K. but then again I know I'm bias to pro-v's myself.
That Odyssey Putter is a beast! I am in love with it. Will definently be saving to put that in my bag for the Spring. Not a fan of the PS 790 Ti, it looks cheap and the price tag is ridiculous for a "game improvement" iron. The P790s will be my clubs of choice when I get fitted after I hit my weight loss goals.
Thanks for answering my LONG email. I’m glad you picked the P790’s. I am in dire need of new irons. Now is the saving part. Gonna be a long time before I can get them. I love the P790 style. Ok love watching your videos keep them coming. From CHRIS in Southern Maryland
I briefly (few months) played with Tommy Armour Ti 100s and came to hate them, for several reasons. The thing that sticks with me even now is how brittle the titanium felt even on a perfect strike. Come to think of it, they also had that "club going off in your hands" problem with the short iron distances. Those memories would make me very suspicious of the new P790 ultra-expensive line.
AHHH this makes sense with the Odyssey copy! If he owns it, he can do whatever he wants assuming no contract prohibiting it. Can't believe Taylor let him keep the patent.
Just watching your TH-cam videos and your swing has helped me improve my game I was constantly shoot +55 over par on a par 36 and the other day I shoot a +33 over par
Truly love the new show format/style, but despise the confiscatory prices of new equipment. The Spider rocks. It was only a matter of time before the design was pirated. Keep up the great work, Rick! Cheers!~
I'd be interested to see how the layers on a ball deform once you have played 1, 10 or say 30 holes with a single ball. Combination of long drives, iron and wedge shots surely cause deformation on the inside of the ball
Starts off with VP of Taylormade Production leaving to go to Odyssey and the ends with the newest Taylormade Irons are the most expensive yet.. Hmmm connection maybe? I honestly think they want to see what people will pay for them and if they can set a new base for iron prices then they will continue to make it more expensive.
I have no problem with companies that use other companies ideas. I play a t.m. hi toe and it was taken from the Callaway p.m. grind. I think it opens up for the players who have allegiance to one brand or get exactly what they like with their brand.
So RS...As my hero, I listened to you and got the P790's. Super excited! Thanks for the great reviews. Hope to lower the handicap from 11 to single digits.
Hi Rick. I think TM have scored an own goal with the latest P790Ti. They don't look premium to my eye and the performance in the hands of a pro won't be that significant. As for me, the average golfer playing off 9 I'd rather get fitted by Ping / Titleist et al for my next set and they'd still be much cheaper than the Ti's. Finally, I know it's all commercially driven, but the big brands need to get in back in touch with their biggest audience - the club golfer and use all the tech to help our games. Thanks for great video
A fair & honest review, as I expected from you Rick. Congrats.
Enjoyed this show. I hope you keep it up. Thanks Rick
I am in love w the #10 Odyssey stroke lab
In re the 'Spider putter' I don't see a problem with it. It's a new design. Just like now we refer to the Anser style putter without taking the mic out of other companies for copying Ping.
Love that they've put a startrek reference in on the new 'bird of prey' putter 👌 can see the resemblance also!!
Honestly 185 is what I get with my 7 iron in the M6 set. I know they are 2 different styles but for that price I would either sacrifice the little distance and get the P790 or Not get blades and go with M6. That’s a lot of money for a set of irons. I feel like they should come with a blond and lifetime beer 😂
Brazilian golfer here. Nice channel, m8! I watch all your vids.
That's interesting that he was able to bring over the Patent or IP from Taylor Made. Or maybe the Patent expired? My patents are owned by the company, so leaving and using it somewhere else 100% gets me sued. I don't know how old my White hot #4 is... but I bought it used 10 ish years ago? tested a few new things and never found anything I liked better. Crazy how tech is always moving and sometimes seems to stay still. Great reviews! loving this branch of the show so far.
Really like the look of that putter, and the sound is ace... Not sure I'll ever own a £2700 set of golf clubs though they look 🔥
Great review! I am a fan of both Putters, but can't afford them so i use my old Wilson putter
Can you let a mid handicapper like me come around the course with you and test clubs like this to really highlight the difference between somebody who can consistently strike a ball compared to somebody who has there ability but can't always hit them pure? I watch you and Peter Finch regularly but due to uni and work commitments I rarely get on the course now. This is a massive long shot but it would be amazing to play with you both for the day!
If youtube had a award for production quality you should win it, its like this was produced for netflix or something its perfect. Grab a beer haha
Rick, love the reviews. One thing I missed was comparing the drive of the Honma to the ProV1 ball, you would hit three of each and compare. Keep up the great work!
Still using my Ping Pal, 25 years on. Recently had it re-gripped for the first time! 😂
Given a choice I’d have the Odyssey.
Great video again Rick. Personally can't see a problem with any manufacturers taking 'inspiration' from another brand. If it were really a problem Ping would have a great case as a precedent with their Anser putter. That thing has been copied so many times!
As for the TM irons, I agree the original P790 is still best - wish I had a set.
I just got my GOLF magazine, March 2020, and the P790's are $1400 retail, 3-PW.
Getting tired of the "Golf Ego" these days. People comparing different sets with the ol "Mine are better or more expensive than yours" or the distance ego "You used a 6 iron? Oh, I used a 7".
Seriously? WHO CARES! It's not about what you use, its how you use it and the result at the end of the game. And honestly, I don't think ego golfers will see their game improve until they let go of their ego and look for results.
But, good review Rick. Good format. I like it.
I currently have a TaylorMade Spider but prefer the look of the Odyssey. I would love to see a review of the new Cleveland Frontline putters.
I am a ping putter guy, but Odyssey knows putters and the have a reputation of making great putters.