Mountain Laurel Designs Duomid (Silnylon) - Setup and Initial Impressions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- Picked up the Mountain Laurel Designs (MLD) Duomid in Silnylon as an option for a winter camping shelter. In this video we will setup the tent and I will give you my initial impressions on it.
This two person plus gear shelter weighs in right around 1lb 6.5oz including the shelter, guylines, stuff sack, and trekking pole extension making it a pretty impressive shelter for the money.
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Walking on the tent is crazy!
This video is so flipping helpful you don’t even know. For the last few months I had been looking at the Duomid and seeing you in the tent moving about is exceptionally helpful. Thank you.
No problem Tuba! Glad to help!
I have this same shelter and would add that I often will offset my pole a few inches and that does a great job in giving even more width available as a single sleeper. If the weather is bad I will normally sleep in the back and offset the pole towards the front. If weather is good I'll sleep in the front half to make getting in/out even easier.
Do you have to re-tighten all the guy lines when it gets wet? And do you notice the additional weight until it drys out?
@@inHammock1 pretty typical to re-tension the guy lines about an hour after setup. Silnylon will get a bit heavier with continuous rain but not terribly so.
@@inHammock1 I have this same shelter in Sil. Easiest way to retension is simply extend your pole a bit more. Avoids having to get out in the rain.
I lived in a MLD SuperMid for a week with my brother while hunting. Such an amazing tent. MLD does fantastic work.
It really is a nice setup. I picked up a used solomid innernet fairly recently too. Cuben floor. Its like the perfect amount of room for someone solo. Can sit up. Have plenty of room under tarp for gear. The actual foot print to set it up is also pretty comparable to the Solplex I used on the AT. Sure its a bit heavier but I like the tent so far!
I love mld as well I have the Duomid .74 dcf and the SoloXL dcf internet awesom set up right at 1.5 pounds
Great video! You have me a good idea of what the tent is like. Well done. 👍
Nice shelter for sure ! As far as hammocks ,I owned the Warbonnet Blackbird for about four years. Loved it. Currently I’m running the Warbonnet Ridgerunner bridge hammock, Oh my ! For winter its not the lightest a tad over two lbs,but man a truly great sleep. You can truly side sleep and with the Lynx zero degree underquilt. Its awesome how you can hover above two feet of snow and camp. Anyway,give Warbonnet a look. Peace ✌️
I ended up picking up a dutchware hammock. Perhaps you will see it in a video soon!
ChrisGoesOutdoors Nice ! Happy trails !
Great video looks like a great shelter when no mosquitoes are about
Definitely! Can also pickup the inner bug net for when they are floating around!
It has a net tent insert for buggy weather. Remember that he said he got it for winter camping.
Who would have thought Kerry King is a thru hiker 😉. Good review man.
I use the Duomid to protect me when its raining blood 😂
@@ChrisGoesOutdoors ha ha, nice one 🤘
Thank you for this review! I’ve been considering this guy to replace my two person tent... and after this review I think I’ll do it!
Its a pretty cool option. I actually picked up the solomid inner net recently too. Love how it all connects together.
I liked your video because that is the best view of it I have seen. I had looked at those and other models from MLD but wondered if they would be too small for me. Late last year I got the zpacks duplex because I like a lot of room.
Thanks Phil! I was kind of surprised when I was looking for videos of this tent that all the ones I could find were kind of difficult to gauge the actual interior space and the setup videos were all pretty....meh too. I try to incorporate what I would personally like to know about the tent in the videos and the interior setup / space is crucial for sure. Glad the Duplex is working out for you. It is a great tent!
Looks like a cool sleep system..im sure ya can't wait to test it out..enjoy bro
Thanks Brett! Hopeful to get it out over the next couple weeks!
Thanks. Like your sleep system too.
I've always been a single pole user. Got a solo pyramid tent for that reason. I've also had CloudUp II for a few years. It's actually a great tent. Might be a bit tight length wise for you though. I never use the ground sheet for mine. The tent is silnylon, but the ground sheet for mine is PU and weighs a half lbs. Apparently they've updated the tent a bit since I got mine.
I really dig the one pole myself. I have been using the zpacks solplex for a while and have zpacks 32" carbon pole (folds up into 3 small sections). I have another shelter option heading my way that will setup with one pole that im hoping to use from now on for 3 seasons. Naturehike actually sent me the new version on the Cloudup 2 which is totally freestanding. I did a little initial impression video on that too. It is definitely a tight fit for me but I think its a great budget option for most people especially if you happen to be under 6ft
Hey mate, great video, it's a solid shelter isn't it.
Quick tip with the pole, just push it forward or back so it's on an angle. For example if you are sleeping by the door like you said you would just push the pole towards the back and it will give you loads more room. You don't need to do it much to have a big impact on space.
This will bring the duomid lower to the ground or you will need to extend your trekking poles a bit more.
I often sleep almost center in the duomid and the room is insane
Enjoy! :)
Will definitely give it a go if I am in there solo. As another commenter mentioned too the dual pole mods look pretty cool too. Always nice to have options!
Dam. If I just had the money. But I am a tarp guy anyways but you sure showed me a great step up for sleeping The Three sections of the Therm-a-Rest and the Gossamer gear pad. Perfect. Laid sideways too. I might even try four laid the other way. Super impressed.
Wish I had the $$$ for this tarp.
The three sections work pretty well for me torso wise but if I had a piece with 4 pieces I probably wouldve went that route. Its actually pretty comfortable as long as you arent sleeping on rocks. Duomid seems pretty impressive. Hopefully put it to the test this winter! Maybe even the fall
Set the pole up at an angle (towards the door or towards the wall opposite the door) and you’ll be able to get more in the centre of the shelter.
I enjoyed your video. I especially liked the lineloc3's which I plan to integrate into my SMD Lunar Solo LE.
Thanks Warren! I really love those line loc 3s. They are just so stupid easy to use. Had them on my SolPlex. I have about 2 dozen of them that I pop on shelters I get that don't have them haha. Think they would make a great addition to the lunar solo. I usually pop em on with a short piece of shock cord.
Hey chris, you should try an inverted v pole pitch. Makes it a mansion. Locus gear sells the dpte and a few others have similar. Not hard to make your own though. Plenty of pics on google. In the snow a large gatorade bottle or frisbee works well under your pole.
Ive seen the ones from Locus Gear. Its a great addition. I would probably consider it for sure with two people since the other person would probably be using at least one trekking pole (Im still sticking with the one). Ive seen some DIY ones too with PVC pipe I considered crafting one up haha. Gatorade bottle is a great idea!
I got a Lux minipeak and a scrap of foam underlayment pad (about 3/16” thick foam that goes under laminate flooring ). The pyramid is nylon and heavier but much, much cheaper too. Can’t see hundreds for a cuben fiber shaped fly.
Nice lightweight shelter option by Mountain Yanni Designs
Looks pretty good so far! I'm only 5'9", so it would be a mansion for me. Weight is also a big concern for me- as you are well aware, the Whites are NOT a place to slack-pack on an overnight! I'll be waiting to see how this performs in the winter. I had another brand of ultralight tent (probably shouldn't name it here), but ended up returning it because of condensation issues. This one doesn't seem like that would be a problem at all, because of the ability to control the airflow.
Still hoping to meet up with you someday on the trail!
Would definitely be massive for 1 person. I always carry stuff for an overnight in the Whites. Even if only planning a day hike. It just makes sense to me haha. Excited to see how this thing handles! Will probably bring it out on a few overnights in the fall before Winter. Hopefully handles well!
I hear that! While I don't pack a tent for a day hike, I do have a light tarp and paracord, plus one of those space blankets for emergencies. How many times have we both heard of rescues where the person said "Well, the weather forecast said it was going to be fine". Welcome to the Whites, home of the world's worst weather! By the way, I'm Steve; pleased to meetcha!
Great! Thanks!
That thing is sweet!
Good job
@ChrisGoesOutdoors, how do you prevent your center pole from sinking when setting up in the snow?
Nice review man,!
Muchas Gracias!
I'd recommend switching all lines to shockcord (well, all 4 corners, the door line no need to change) due to silnylon properties when they get wet from moisture/rain and sag a bit. I also recommend more CHEETOS in future videos ò.ó cheers
Ah yes the dreaded sil sag. I have been spoiled with the Cuben haha. Will definitely consider adding some shock cord to stake out spots! Cheetos as well!
Thats sweet
Chriss... nice review on the tent/tarp. I really like the pyramid design. However.... when it rains and the rain runs down the sides of the tent, what's to keep the water from running down the sides then under the edge and INSIDE your tent and getting everything wet?
Never had that issue. I actually picked up an inner net that includes a bathtub floor and bug netting for 3 season use mountainlaureldesigns.com/product/mld-pyramid-innernets/ so that will help with rain coming through. In all honesty even with just a ground cloth as long as you are on level ground running water is not usually an issue
Good video. I am blind and cannot see details. Is this a two person or one person tent? How much cost? Where did you buy it? Is this a double person tent or single person tent? It sounds like a Boy Scouts tent from the 70s. I had one but were made out of canvas and very heavy. They were simple but practical. They resemble more like a miniature TP rather than a pyramid though. Any windows or vestibule? Thank you so much for sharing your video. It was very useful to me. God bless you.
It's the mountain loral designs Duomid can be set up as Two or one person mountainlaureldesigns.com/product/duomid/ I have the DCF version weighs in at 14 oz
It looks roomy but you've got it several inches up off the ground. Do you really want the winter wind and snow blowing in under the tent into your face while you try to sleep? Cinch it down to the ground and it's not so roomy.
stupid question perhaps, but how do you go about rain in a shelter without a bathtub floor? wouldn't the water run onto the groundsheet and then get your gear wet?
A lot of it depends on site selection. If for instance you setup at the bottom of a small hill and it downpours you could definitely pay for it haha. I only used that floor for winter camping though. Where I camp usually I prefer a higher floor and bug netting. Mainly due to ticks
You want to win the internet? Show it setup with a ridge line from tree to tree for the top with no pole. That would be sweet. Just look for widow makers
Will definitely keep it in mind! I was between two trees during this video. If I had enough cord with me I definitely would have done it just to see how it handled. Perhaps a follow up video!
@@ChrisGoesOutdoors it would be hard to guarantee that type of setup in a long hike but it would be super roomy
Do you find it fun when mice are running around on top of you while you sleep?
I have had mice run across my bed in the city yet no mice problems while tarp tenting. Let it go...be at one with nature and try not to feed the general paranoia that keeps some folks indoors. Cowboy camp whenever possible...it works fine . Remember that even the most sealed up tent is no match for the lowly mouse. It will chew right through your netting to get your granola snacks.
If you dropped that center pole down 3-5 inches could you get the tent wall bottoms closer to the ground and cut down on possible rain blowing in ?
You can definitely pitch it lower to prevent rain from getting in. In theory you could lower it a bit and tighten up the guy lines. Should close up the gap pretty well!
i wonder if rain would run down the guy lines then into the tent on the shock cord that is connected to the tie out?
Good point but if I was to buy this tent I'd only ever buy the dcf at camo which has a hh of 15k so suffice it to say... Beyond water proof
Did you ever do a followup review of this shelter after you had a chance to use It?
No follow up yet. I do still own the tent. Have only got the chance to use it on about 3 winter overnights. I used it with the floor I show in this video and it actually worked out pretty well overall. I also picked up one of the single person inner nets for the tent so may use it more this season. Will see how it goes. I usually find myself still reaching for my Zpacks Solplex most nights.
Hey Chris, thanks for the review. Question: if you are using the Duomid for Winter backpacking, how the hell are you going to stay warm on snow or hard frozen ground with a shredded ZPad and the GG thin pad?? I have the GG pad and there is not much between you and the ground. I understood you will use a groundsheet, but unless you are an insane warm sleeper, how will you keep your body core warm? Sleeping bag a -30 degree??? Maybe I missed something, so please let me know!! Thanks!
that sleep system would just be for 3 season use only. I probably should've clarified. Would be a Thermarest Xtherm for me for winter! Especially up where I live!
Thanks!!! I know you are used to much colder temps where you are, but that's reassuring I'm not crazy! You might check out the Mountain Equipment Down filled Aerostat 7.0. R Value is 8.8!!! It's insanely warm ( I'm a very cold sleeper) and the Short weighs 19 oz.
Thing looks great but very limited availability it seems. Out of stock on their own site. And appears the only two retailers state side are Backcountry who dont seem to carry it and Campsaver that I dont really care for and its all out of stock as well. Will keep an eye on it though as an option!
Hell no! Not for me, I need an actual tent, can’t do tarps. But yeah, less than 700g, it’s pretty incredible! And there’s a lot of head room as well, mine is the Six Moon Design Sky Trekker (I think that’s the model) and it’s pretty small, my backpack sleeps outside. It’s pretty lightweight, 780g. Kind of a pain in the ass to set up, specially when you compare to free standing tents.
can always get one of the inner nets for the tent. Raises the weight a little but will keep you well protected! I only plan to use it for winter really. But either way as long as the Trekker works for you no need to really change that!
I wonder how it would hold up in Scotland not many trees and deep heather with midges ect
Ive heard good things about mids in exposed areas. Apparently they deal with wind pretty well. As far as midges, they offer a couple different bug innernet/floor options for these mids. I actually picked up one that fits perfect in half the tent. Hoping to show it in a video eventually!
Hey what color is that silnylon?it looks good!
Not sure the exact name but the MLD website literally refers to it as "Gray"
Awesome! Thank you
What is the cost on one of these?
Why ask someone else look up the price? Makes no sense whatsoever. Just google the darn thing.
Dude I cringed when you stepped on it a few times. Are you crazy? Haha
Do i need to seam seal a new tent?
it varies from tent to tent. Most companies do it or seam tape it instead. Mountain Laurel Designs offers seam sealing as an option but it is an additional charge.
@@ChrisGoesOutdoors Thank you
I’d rather have a 6🌙Design gatewood cape tarp tent. It’s more versatile.
The Gatewood cape is solid. I messed with their deschutes plus tarp for a bit. Been considering investing in one of the gatewood capes though. I am actually very big fan of ponchos in general. One that doubles as a shelter is just icing on the cake
I have used both. At 5'6" the Gatewood works for me when I go as light as possible but when there will be a lot of rain I go with the Duomid and a Cuban Fiber poncho.
I sold mine after one trip. And its tiny compared to this. I am 6 foot and was touching head and foot. The gatewwod is not for everyone. Also it was not made in the USA at the time I bought mine. Not sure about now. I hope so.
How u handle bugs?
I got this specifically for winter. So no bugs out there for me. However MLD sells various inner nets that hook up to this shelter that will give it full netting and the floor!
With a bug net