MLD Duomid | Initial Impressions Review

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  • @alwaysforwardyt
    @alwaysforwardyt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watch my long-term review of the Duomid here: th-cam.com/video/Xzz12XFafhc/w-d-xo.html What an awesome tent!

  • @meanderingkiwi
    @meanderingkiwi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your honest view of the tent, it was down to earth and very helpful - much appreciated.

    • @alwaysforwardyt
      @alwaysforwardyt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I don't like BS so l guess others don't like it, either 😎 Make sure you don't miss my 'full review' here: th-cam.com/video/Xzz12XFafhc/w-d-xo.html I hope you enjoy it too 😊

  • @snabelone
    @snabelone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Mr Forward!
    Thanks for sharing your beautifully honest adventures with a great sence of humour! As a proffessional TH-cam Couch Hiker I think your videos fill a void out there! Keep it up since your material truly is very appreciated!
    I just recieved a DCF Camo Pyramid and I hope you could share how your setup looks like under differeent conditions.
    Pegs:
    How many pegs do you use? There are like 14-16 tie out points on these beasts! I assume you use regular Groundhog Stakes... but 16 sounds overkill? I have seen that some use one peg for 2 lines... is that the way to go?
    Pole:
    My Pyramid is only 130 cm high... would a 140 cm pole be enough? Any suggestion for a good packable pole/ trekking pole? If you fly a lot, a foldable that fits in the pack would be great. Carbon vs aluminium? I heard something that pole schock demper should be avoided, but schock cord on the tie outs should be used? Sort of confusing for me.
    Inner half Mesh Tent:
    Any suggestion for a summer vs winter half inner solution? How did your kit work out that you used at Nordkalotten and Scotland? A review?
    When ticks are not present my plan is to use a Poly or Tyvek as ground sheet.
    Many question... I know.
    Once again many thanks for your channel!
    Regards from the Couch up North.

    • @alwaysforwardyt
      @alwaysforwardyt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello there, thanks for the feedback, much appreciated! 😍
      DCF Camo Pyramid: Wow, that's a great choice!
      As a rule of thumb, l adjust my gear not only to the conditions l may encounter, but also to the place l go to. In the UK, you're never in a remote area, only away from the next town. If something really bad was to happen, you're at most a day's walk from safety. Often just hours away. In the Arctic Circle, for example, you're on you own. Take the wrong direction and it's over. See the difference?
      If you go to the Lake District and you have a hostel and a car park 4km away, your gear choice doens't matter that much. You can bring the right or wrong gear, but you'll be alright even if worse comes to worse. If you hike in a remote area, you have to make sure you have a plan B if you value your life.
      Having said the above:
      Pegs: For very windy conditions (like those in my Lake District videos) l took 15 MSR Groundhogs. But we were testing equipment (i.e. we could always have camped at lower, less windy altitude, and bring lighter pegs). My lightest approach to pegs (as l did in my West Highland Way and Affric Kintail Way adventures) is 4 MSR groundhogs for the main 4 corners, then 4 titanium 6g/each pegs for the other 4 tie outs at ground level.
      l asked Mountain Laurel Designs what was the best way to go about pitching the tent in strong winds (in the UK every breeze is referred to as 'gale force' but, you know, l asked for the best settings for 'real' gale force winds) and this is MLD answer, from most efficient/important to less:
      1: Corners, then double stake corners
      2: 4 mid point ground tieouts( between the corners)
      3: Mid panel tieouts with the bungee cord- do not pull them out much.
      4: Lines to the peak tieout.
      5: Lines with bungee to the tieouts on the mid point on the 4 main seams up from the corners.
      Pole: Yes, a 140cm should be perfectly find for a 130cm pyramid design. For reference, l use a 140cm pole for my Duomid (which is supposed to be 140cm high). My strong suggestions are:
      1: Stay away from tent poles, because they are fixed and therefore not adjustable. The moment you pitch your tent you'll see 'how handy' an adjustable (in height) pole is.
      2: Adjustable (in height) aluminium pole. Being able to adjust the trekking pole at least 10cms makes pitching a lot easier/better. Otherwise, you need to start playing with (at least) 4 main corners/guylines and that's a lot more cumbersome and slow than simply pulling up/down your trekking pole. Trust me on this one.
      Now, when it comes to material, l prefer aluminium because, if worse comes to worse, the pole will bend as opposed to crack. You can bend an aluminium trekking pole back to shape (otherwise, the pole will 'still' do the job even when bended). You can 'sort of' fix a cracked carbon fibre pole but, if l was you, l wouldn't camp that night in an exposed place. Besides, remember than pyramids need 'tension' to stay up. You can achieve all the tension you want with a bended aluminium pole (you may achieve a lower pitch, but you'll get a well tensioned pitch), but good luck applying tension to a cracked/fixed carbon fibre pole. Again, in the Lake District, who cares? Go back to the car and take your spare carbon fibre trekking pole. Sorted. Alone in the Arctic Circle l go for aluminium.
      l'm very happy with the trekking pole l use. It meets your foldabitily criteria (which l also love and chose for that very 'travelling' reason you mentioned), and it meets my aluminium/adjustabily criteria. Black Diamond Distance FLZ.
      It's good to notice that these folding, 3 pieces trekking poles don't offer the same level of rigidity (and solid feeling) as the usual telescopic ones (It's noticeable when using them for crossing a river, for example). But, IMO, they still do fine (you learn to equally trust them). So far, my experience is very positive with the BD model l mentioned.
      Being fully honest, l've never heard of that 'pole schock demper' you mentioned. Sorry l can't help with that.
      Inner half Mesh Tent: In the NKL and Lake District l used a winter inner net bought in Aliexpress. The inner net does not fit properly but it does the job. The alternative, the MLD in my case, will fit perfectly well, but it's a summer inner net (i.e. it does not offer any protection against the condensation accummulated on the main walls). l leave the link for you here, but bear in mind the inner net does not fit properly and you will have to find your work arounds. l must also say l am now happy with this inner net despite its shortcomings.
      To set expectations, you have to stake 4 corners (it's a bit of a cumbersome process given the corners are very close to the main tent walls), then find your way to attach the top (l use a carabiner). Then, there are two mid level attachment points that won't fit the Duomid tent, only one of them can be attached but that's good enough for me. Here's the link but please, remember all these shotcomings! (l tested the link and it should work.)
      shorturl.at/esFKN
      Personally, l love my tyvek groundsheet and it's coming with me everywhere. It's proven itself to be 100% waterproof. Under the same conditions, my friend's expensive/light DCF groundsheet was not fully waterproof and allowed some water to reach the inside of his tent, whereas my inexpensive/heavier Tyvek one was totally waterproof. We camped barely 1 meter from each other as you can see in this video th-cam.com/video/Jy70uvDelQ0/w-d-xo.html With the car some 12km away (or closer, l forgot) that's not a big deal. Again, in other places, that would be a very big deal...
      A couple other things:
      1- l agree. l can already make a few videos out of this answer. It could be the script!
      2- l hope l earnt a coffee? 😎
      3- l hope this helps! 😅

  • @williammcbrearty4699
    @williammcbrearty4699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Antonio, I just recently stumbled upon your channel. I have the same shelter and also use the MLD DCF inner. Very pleased with it for solo long distance trails and occasional summit camps and although expensive I would recommend it. I noted Border Rambler has just posted a TH-cam video today showcasing a cheap 2 trekking pole 'mod' which appears to give more room in the shelter. If you use 2 trekking poles it might be worth checking this out at a fraction of the cost of the official one. Enjoying your output, please keep them coming. Kind Regards William.

    • @alwaysforwardyt
      @alwaysforwardyt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks mate. I'll check out that video, thanks for sharing. I only take 1 trekking pole so not for me, but it may help others.
      I just finished filming the Kungsleden. My wife joined so l took our MSR Access 2. Nice for a couple, but l missed the Duomid. So far, I've only used in the WHW and AKW... ATB!

  • @jameslogan8193
    @jameslogan8193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi there Antonio. Valid points all but I must be a ninja because the buckle doesn’t rattle my cage like it rattles yours. The fact that if you forget to use the buckle when you open and close the door you can ruin the zip is a weak point but you get used to it, I guess. I had a bit of a leak through the zip during a serious downpour but nothing the sponge couldn’t deal with and nothing through the fabric or seams. I also had mine up on May 20th during the gales. I was next to a Loch and very exposed but the tent was as solid as a rock. I use all the guy points which lifts the sides a bit making it bigger inside and reduces wind flap to zero as well as making it bomb proof. Yes, the biggest issue with the MLD “palace” is that you need at least a 3m square flat pitch to set it up nicely. That’s a big ask in Scotland, as you know, especially if you don’t want rocks or bog either. I treat pitch hunting as a game and even check Google satellite to find “dry” looking spots near lochs or rivers before the hike. Finally, I like that you can raise or lower the pole for more or less fresh air. If you drop it to the ground and tighten the lines you lose headroom but it massively reduces the wind blowing through. For such a simple design it’s actually not an easy tent. It’s almost an art to pitch a Duomid well but after 20 or 30 pitches you get the hang of it and it becomes a sheer joy to own.

    • @alwaysforwardyt
      @alwaysforwardyt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing your experience with the tent with us, truly appreciate it. Very good and valid points there!
      I need further testing (hence the 'initial impressions'). Every time l went on my knees to close the buckle resulted on wet knees (wearing my sleeping leggings it killed me!). But, by the end of my 2 weeks adventure, l almost got into terms with it. Again, it's just a matter of time to find my 'ninja move' 😅
      The tent has the best reputation it could when it comes to being a 'bombproof' shelter, yet l'm happy you had the chance to put it to a (solid) test and it passed it with a good mark.
      I love the fact that 4 stakes (if solid ones) are enough to have a very solid shelter. However, l always added 3 more 2g titanium stakes on the 'mid baseline' guylines (following MLD terminology). I mean, the guylines in between the corners close to the ground. l still haven't attached any other guylines to my palace 😄
      "Nothing the sponge couldn’t deal with" 😂You always make me laugh!

    • @jameslogan8193
      @jameslogan8193 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My ground sheet is pretty big, so I can reach the buckle and keep my knees dry : ) Keeping dry feet in camp, though, has been a real challenge. I’ve bought some forensic/clean room shoe covers which they say are waterproof, so I’ll put them over my sox when I go out. They weigh nothing. Yeah, I use 15 stakes ( a variety )so the tent isn’t going anywhere. More likely the trekking pole will break which is another reason to lower/shorten it when it’s really blowing. Aluminium poles are stronger than carbon, obviously. Cheers.

    • @alwaysforwardyt
      @alwaysforwardyt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jameslogan8193 l'm now going to test a polycro groundsheet. I was using the same one l once cut for my MSR tent ages ago.
      So funny you mentioned those forensic shoe covers because that is exactly going to be my next implementation. l actually mentioned that in my latest gear review (TH-cam is processing the 4k version). The idea is to hopefully find ones made in a thicker material (similar to the ones l used in the PW, WHW and AkW) and then add my shoes insoles (if they're dry) to them (as l've been doing). l think we have a winner there!
      With 15 stakes, you might spin the earth upside down before the tent even moves 😅 BTW, and l don't mean to sound pendantic, but l think titanium is stronger than aluminium given the exact same weight.
      Going back to the groundsheet, l think l'll cut a L-shape one to be able to reach the buckle (which l always do/undo everytime l operate the zipper, as adviced by MLD 😉) when on my knees. Enjoy the evening!

    • @jameslogan8193
      @jameslogan8193 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was talking about my trekking poles and I haven't seen them in titanium, have you ? L-shaped ground sheet ? Nice. Make sure you re-inforce the inside corner as it will tear.
      Looking forward to the gear review : )

    • @alwaysforwardyt
      @alwaysforwardyt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jameslogan8193 Sorry, l misunderstood you😌 I haven't seen your trekking poles, at all 😅 Yeah, that's a good point. It seems that polycro is very susceptible to tearing. l'll make sure l reinforce the edges in general.
      I'll probably upload it on Sunday (still processing). l did it in an 'unexpected' place (so to say, you'll see 😎). l hope you enjoy it!

  • @TonyHobbs
    @TonyHobbs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh the Duomid what a fab shelter been using this over ten years my third ever camp was in one of these cuben . Love cuben absolutely agree cuben is better than silnylon but the new silnylon in 20d is very very good. It does not stretch in cuben nor absorb water but the 20d pretty much negates the difference now and I have years of experience with MLD Cuben and some silnylon lol it is easy to pitch never had a problem lol did a video on pitching it long long long long ffs I’m getting to f ing old lol ago .
    How tall are you? I agree condensation has never been much of a problem it does happen but not too much and I’ve slept n pretty damp places
    Ah ok same shirt arse like me lol 5’8”
    Mine has the poppers on the door the door prettty easy to close but I often leave it open
    You big Jessie lol lol lol it’s not so bad to close lol

    • @alwaysforwardyt
      @alwaysforwardyt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂 l'm getting stiff with age! l'm going to have to join my wife and her yoga classes! 😎😅 l've always said that old people like you 🤣 (just kidding) have been camping forever on silnylon tents. DCF is great to have, but not a must. l bet the silnylon version ages better than the DCF (?). And yes, l'm just 'as tall' as you 😎😆

    • @TonyHobbs
      @TonyHobbs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alwaysforwardyt yes absolutely silnylon will out last the cuben by a long time my cuben duomid is showing its age and I don't think I'd put it through a stormy night
      But still great for calmer weather
      Sadly the stitching and cuben have a tendency to slowly part over many years of use and mine is first generation the newer ones probably have better stitching and gluing in strategic places but I love it much much better than a tent
      Love my MLD kit I've got more than MLD does probably lol

    • @TonyHobbs
      @TonyHobbs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alwaysforwardyt sense of humour is great and good BTW 👍 :) I'm f ing mad with my humour 😀 old fashioned British humour 😀

    • @alwaysforwardyt
      @alwaysforwardyt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TonyHobbs You wouldn't believe how close British and Spanish humor is. l've always had a great laugh with British people. l always got your humor and vice-versa 😊

    • @TonyHobbs
      @TonyHobbs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alwaysforwardyt bloody Spanish with their Armada
      Oh you're Spanish
      Nice to make your acquaintance lol
      Now where did I put my bowls 😆

  • @gordonmculloch4904
    @gordonmculloch4904 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice honest review of the tent. It would really need an inner in the summer though, especially in Scotland, as you would get eaten alive as you sleep with the midges. Cheers 👍

    • @alwaysforwardyt
      @alwaysforwardyt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! You're absolutely right about the the need for an inner tent in midges season. But, as l said in 5:43, in 'midges season' l would be back home in London. There is no way l go to Scotland again in summer, with or without an inner tent! 🤣 No need to go back to hell once you've been there! 😱😱😱