G'day mate,there nickname is normally "fuse tap" basically it's a wire with a terminal that taps into/or plugs into an existing fuse here is a link for you to click on www.jaycar.com.au/double-micro-blade-fuse-socket-wire-tap/p/SF5130?pos=1&queryId=92adcc1ca14ced5349b0165d65954052 Cheers Craig
I have a 2011 hilux and the spare heated seat fuse under the dash on the passenger side appears to stay on when the vehicle is off aswell (causing the dctodc charger to stay on).Therefore does it have to be a spare/empty fuse or can I use a fuse that is already being used for something else and just put a smaller second fuse in the fuse tap?
Hi there. I have a Mitsubishi triton 2015 MQ and I don’t think it has a smart alternator and I can’t find a fuse that’s only on when engine is on. What do I need so I don’t kill my smart battery? What would I wire the blue ignition wire too? Cheers
G'day mate im pretty sure that tritans don't have a smart charging system so you should be good to not worry about connecting up the blu wire,check with mitsubishi 1st just to make sure thanks for watching Cheers Craig
If I'm piggy backing off an existing fuse eg:wipers what amp fuse do I need to install above existing fuse in my piggy back adapter for the dc-dc Cheers
G'day mate,if your not sure just use the same value fuse as the original you have plugged into - wipers would be no good as they can be switched on with the accessories/ignition - fuel pump relay is probably best - really anything that only has power when engine is running & switches off when engine is off Cheers Craig
Connect it to a fuse that is only active when the engine is actually running. Check out this video for more information th-cam.com/video/2_skqBjOiHY/w-d-xo.html
You use a fuse tap. Match the size of the fuse tap to the socket you are plugging into on your vehicle. You should find this information on the fuse box cover.
@@KickAssProducts Yes I am using a fuse tap and I already have a right size of the fuse tap. There are 2 fuse holder, one for original and the other fuse holder is for ignition wire. So what amp fuse I should use for ignition wire? I will be the shop on Thursday(18/8) around 3 pm to buy a KickAss Portable Battery Box Power Station with Integrated 25A DC-DC Charger. I want to make sure before buy them...Thanks.
Thanks for these videos. Instead of running an ignition wire to front fusebox, can I tap the wire with a fuse to positive+ wire of 12v outlet to connect ignition wire (12 v outlet already in the back of the car boot, only works when the key is on) ? This is for a Jeep Grand Cherokee which have main battery under the drivers seat. So, I can run wires easily to 2nd battery. Then use ignition wire from 12V outlet (+wire) from the boot. Thanks
@@KickAssProducts with the Jeep, this rear 12v cigarette light power outlet can be configured either “directly from battery” or “when the engine is running”. Currently mine is configured as “when engine is running”. Thanks.
Hi Caven, Unfortunately it very difficult to consult customers specific requirements on our comments page. If you submit a ticket via our support portal supportportal.australiandirect.com.au/submit-ticket-product-issue/ one of our team will get in touch with you ASAP.
The charger will auto sense the input voltage so it will charge without the fuse tap. However if your alternator does not put out a high enough voltage or there are fluctuations in the electrical system this can cause inconsistencies while charging and is why we recommend connecting the ignition wire.
I have 2021 hilux sr5, and I can't find any fuse that has no power when ignition is off, so I will connect to accessories and make sure to turn off everything when outside of the car .
I've set this up as per your videos but the charger is getting power with ignition off. I've quadruple checked the power to the fuse I've used. It got late, so I'm going to try some other fuse spots tomorrow in case the one I've chosen is constant battery power. Anything else that it could be though??? Cheers Matt
Hi Matt, for further tech support please visit out support portal, supportportal.kickassproducts.com.au/kickass-dcdc-mppt-solar-battery-charger-12v-24v-25a-pre-wired-anderson/ You can submit a ticket at the bottom of the page and one techs will contact you.
@@KickAssProducts All good, works perfectly. It just takes a while for the unit to adjust to the vehicle bat voltage and start charging. Sometimes an unplug/plug is needed.
Do you need the ignition cable in fixed voltage alternators such as a 1986 landcruiser? I don't think you need to but I don't understand the cut off mechanism within the DCDC
G'day Erik. No you don't have to install the ignition wire, the charger does will auto detect when your vehicle is running as long as your alternator puts out a high enough voltage, an 86 cruiser should easily. Cut in is 13.2 volts without the ignition wire connected.
Hi Daniel. If the fuse you are connected to has power when the vehicle is not running the DC DC may remain connected. What are you using to check the fuses.
In my 2015 Land Rover Discovery 4, I have the old Kickass battery box with 120ah Battery and Projecta 25A dcdc charger...... it has worked fine for 4years..... can you tell me why I would need to upgrade to one of these 3wire/ignition setups?
If your old system is working for you then keep using it. The projectorshad an ignition wire as well so it worked the same way, this design is just suppose to make everything easier to install.
Silly question: Does it matter what amperage the fuse is? Cancel that. Just scrolled down and found that it doesn't matter. Cheers for the good video. Mine's about to go in, either a great charging experience or an explosion. 😄
@@KickAssProducts - Awesome stuff. All wired up and nowhere to go, and no explosions either. I'm yet to properly test it with a drive around, but just with engine running in garage it seems there's a bit of time lag on either switching the DCDC charger on and/or off. When I switched off, it kept showing that it was charging for at least 10 minutes, but with only very little trickle - is that normal? (My battery was sitting at 94% charged and no usage/draw. I'm planning on putting the fridge on there and do a drive around over the weekend, but thought I'd check in the meantime.) O, and I did check that the fuse I used had no charge while engine switched off - that was my obvious first check.
I have a 2019 Isuzu dmax, but the unused fuse slots do not have power while engine is on or off. Any suggestions on how to install ignition wire with this model?
Hi, I have a 2009 Ranger, the charging voltage is around 14.2v at idle. I'm a bit confused about the cut in/out voltage. I will be using a 100ah lithium battery, the manual states the cut in voltage at 26.4v for the dcdc, to me it looks like the lithium won't even reach that voltage. Am I wrong? Cheers
Hey mate great video, I just brought your dcdc 40a and was wondering will 8 agm cable be fine to use with a 300w solar panel. I’m using your heavy duty cable kit (6 agm) to wire to the starter battery. But I’m interested on the solar side?
Awesome video, I have a question regarding what size fuse I need for the ignition wire (5, 10, 15, 20a)? I have a 2016 N80 Hilux. Any suggesting on where and what accessory I should piggy back off?
We can't give you specific vehicle advise sorry. But if you follow the steps in the video you should be able to find a suitable place to tap the fuse. Remember that you need to find an empty fuse that is only powered when the vehicle's engine is running. Not just on Accessory. The size of the fuse tap that you need will depend on what fuse holder you decide to use.
G'day there get a mate to use a multi meter & find a fuse that only powers up when the engine is running mate & make sure no power when engine not on thanks for watching Cheers Craig
Awesome! Thank you. Far more useful information than some of your competitors provide.
Thanks for watching & im glad you enjoyed it & got some good info
Cheers Craig
Thanks mate, as simple as it sounds I had no clue how easy it really is until I saw you do it.
I didn’t know there was power to unused fuse slots! Just knowing that makes things easier - problem solved! Great vid.
This was so helpful 👍👍👍👍simple and to the point
Thanks mike glad you enjoyed it & thanks for watching
Cheers Craig
Love the videos guy's.
So helpful, always learn something.
Thanks for sharing,make it so easy to install DC to DC charger after watching video👍
Thanks for watching
Cheers Craig
Thxs Warwick Capper...
G'day Mate,you must remember the 80's as well lol - go no# 39
Thanks for watching
What size fuse is needed for the ignition wire itself?
G'day mate,it is only a sensing wire & carris no current but a 5 amp fuse would be more than enough
Cheers Craig
Thank you.
You're welcome!
Cheers
CRAIG
Cheers guys!
Nice!
Thanks for watching
Cheers Craig
I’m sorry but what was that fuse wire called? All the mini way fuses I’m looking it don’t have that connection just an open ended connection
G'day mate,there nickname is normally "fuse tap" basically it's a wire with a terminal that taps into/or plugs into an existing fuse
here is a link for you to click on
www.jaycar.com.au/double-micro-blade-fuse-socket-wire-tap/p/SF5130?pos=1&queryId=92adcc1ca14ced5349b0165d65954052
Cheers Craig
I have a 2011 hilux and the spare heated seat fuse under the dash on the passenger side appears to stay on when the vehicle is off aswell (causing the dctodc charger to stay on).Therefore does it have to be a spare/empty fuse or can I use a fuse that is already being used for something else and just put a smaller second fuse in the fuse tap?
yes use a fuse that is used.
Hi there. I have a Mitsubishi triton 2015 MQ and I don’t think it has a smart alternator and I can’t find a fuse that’s only on when engine is on. What do I need so I don’t kill my smart battery? What would I wire the blue ignition wire too? Cheers
G'day mate im pretty sure that tritans don't have a smart charging system so you should be good to not worry about connecting up the blu wire,check with mitsubishi 1st just to make sure
thanks for watching
Cheers Craig
If I'm piggy backing off an existing fuse eg:wipers what amp fuse do I need to install above existing fuse in my piggy back adapter for the dc-dc
Cheers
G'day mate,if your not sure just use the same value fuse as the original you have plugged into - wipers would be no good as they can be switched on with the accessories/ignition - fuel pump relay is probably best - really anything that only has power when engine is running & switches off when engine is off
Cheers Craig
So where you tapped your ignition wire into do you get power when the Reds are on and the cars not tuning
Connect it to a fuse that is only active when the engine is actually running. Check out this video for more information th-cam.com/video/2_skqBjOiHY/w-d-xo.html
Hi can you just use a spare fuse space for the ignition wire?
No, as craig explains you need to connect the ignition wire to a fuse connection that is live when the engine is running.
As long as it only comes on when the car is running
what amp fuse do you use when you are connceting the ignition wire to fuse box?
You use a fuse tap. Match the size of the fuse tap to the socket you are plugging into on your vehicle. You should find this information on the fuse box cover.
@@KickAssProducts Yes I am using a fuse tap and I already have a right size of the fuse tap. There are 2 fuse holder, one for original and the other fuse holder is for ignition wire. So what amp fuse I should use for ignition wire? I will be the shop on Thursday(18/8) around 3 pm to buy a KickAss Portable Battery Box Power Station with Integrated 25A DC-DC Charger. I want to make sure before buy them...Thanks.
Thanks for these videos. Instead of running an ignition wire to front fusebox, can I tap the wire with a fuse to positive+ wire of 12v outlet to connect ignition wire (12 v outlet already in the back of the car boot, only works when the key is on) ? This is for a Jeep Grand Cherokee which have main battery under the drivers seat. So, I can run wires easily to 2nd battery. Then use ignition wire from 12V outlet (+wire) from the boot. Thanks
When you say it is powered when the key is on, do you mean on "Accessories" or when the engine is actually running?
@@KickAssProducts with the Jeep, this rear 12v cigarette light power outlet can be configured either “directly from battery” or “when the engine is running”. Currently mine is configured as “when engine is running”. Thanks.
Hi there what if you don’t have a spare sated heat fuse? Or fuse that is on on when the car is turned on? I have a Hyundai iload
Hi Caven, Unfortunately it very difficult to consult customers specific requirements on our comments page.
If you submit a ticket via our support portal supportportal.australiandirect.com.au/submit-ticket-product-issue/ one of our team will get in touch with you ASAP.
will work with 24v power in a big truck?
do have 12v
Will the dcdc charger still work if you don’t tap into the fuse ??
The charger will auto sense the input voltage so it will charge without the fuse tap. However if your alternator does not put out a high enough voltage or there are fluctuations in the electrical system this can cause inconsistencies while charging and is why we recommend connecting the ignition wire.
I have 2021 hilux sr5, and I can't find any fuse that has no power when ignition is off, so I will connect to accessories and make sure to turn off everything when outside of the car .
Hilux has fuse box under the glove box. If you open your glove box you will see it on the left side.
@RamandeepSingh-ul2dw I tried that too ,still couldn't find that kind of fuse.
@@daliborpaunovic262 I have Hilux too. The glovebox fuse, second fuse in the row has power only on ignition.
I've set this up as per your videos but the charger is getting power with ignition off. I've quadruple checked the power to the fuse I've used. It got late, so I'm going to try some other fuse spots tomorrow in case the one I've chosen is constant battery power. Anything else that it could be though??? Cheers Matt
Hi Matt, for further tech support please visit out support portal, supportportal.kickassproducts.com.au/kickass-dcdc-mppt-solar-battery-charger-12v-24v-25a-pre-wired-anderson/
You can submit a ticket at the bottom of the page and one techs will contact you.
@@KickAssProducts All good, works perfectly. It just takes a while for the unit to adjust to the vehicle bat voltage and start charging. Sometimes an unplug/plug is needed.
Do you need the ignition cable in fixed voltage alternators such as a 1986 landcruiser? I don't think you need to but I don't understand the cut off mechanism within the DCDC
G'day Erik. No you don't have to install the ignition wire, the charger does will auto detect when your vehicle is running as long as your alternator puts out a high enough voltage, an 86 cruiser should easily.
Cut in is 13.2 volts without the ignition wire connected.
I found all fuses had power, but around 12v and connected to that, when car is running it would increase. Is this ok?
Hi Daniel. If the fuse you are connected to has power when the vehicle is not running the DC DC may remain connected. What are you using to check the fuses.
Should it be connected in a 2016 BT50?
Yes, we recommend connecting the ignition wire whenever possible.
In my 2015 Land Rover Discovery 4, I have the old Kickass battery box with 120ah Battery and Projecta 25A dcdc charger...... it has worked fine for 4years..... can you tell me why I would need to upgrade to one of these 3wire/ignition setups?
If your old system is working for you then keep using it. The projectorshad an ignition wire as well so it worked the same way, this design is just suppose to make everything easier to install.
fuze size u used ?
Sorry are you referring to the fuse tap? This will depend on your vehicle.
i used a 20amp as that is what the heated seat fuse would have been.
Silly question: Does it matter what amperage the fuse is? Cancel that. Just scrolled down and found that it doesn't matter. Cheers for the good video. Mine's about to go in, either a great charging experience or an explosion. 😄
Cool, Thanks
@@KickAssProducts - Awesome stuff. All wired up and nowhere to go, and no explosions either. I'm yet to properly test it with a drive around, but just with engine running in garage it seems there's a bit of time lag on either switching the DCDC charger on and/or off. When I switched off, it kept showing that it was charging for at least 10 minutes, but with only very little trickle - is that normal? (My battery was sitting at 94% charged and no usage/draw. I'm planning on putting the fridge on there and do a drive around over the weekend, but thought I'd check in the meantime.)
O, and I did check that the fuse I used had no charge while engine switched off - that was my obvious first check.
Does it matter how many Amps the fuse slot is?
No, The current draw through the ignition wire is negligible.
I have a 2019 Isuzu dmax, but the unused fuse slots do not have power while engine is on or off. Any suggestions on how to install ignition wire with this model?
Unfortunately we cannot give advice on specific vehicles.
i need that three pin anderson plug for my wind turbine
They will be in stock shortly www.australiandirect.com.au/buy/kickass-anderson-3-pin-style-connector
Hi, I have a 2009 Ranger, the charging voltage is around 14.2v at idle. I'm a bit confused about the cut in/out voltage. I will be using a 100ah lithium battery, the manual states the cut in voltage at 26.4v for the dcdc, to me it looks like the lithium won't even reach that voltage. Am I wrong?
Cheers
Cut in voltage is 13.2 volts on a 12 volt alternator.
The 26.4 volts is for a 24 volt alternator that you would find on a larger vehicle.
@@KickAssProducts oh, sorry, must have missed that. Thankyou
What amperage rating does my fuse need to be for this blue ignition connection?
You just need to match the rating of the fuse in your vehicle that you have selected to tap.
Hey mate great video, I just brought your dcdc 40a and was wondering will 8 agm cable be fine to use with a 300w solar panel. I’m using your heavy duty cable kit (6 agm) to wire to the starter battery. But I’m interested on the solar side?
Perfect for solar pork chop
Thanks for watching
Cheers Craig
Awesome video, I have a question regarding what size fuse I need for the ignition wire (5, 10, 15, 20a)? I have a 2016 N80 Hilux. Any suggesting on where and what accessory I should piggy back off?
We can't give you specific vehicle advise sorry. But if you follow the steps in the video you should be able to find a suitable place to tap the fuse.
Remember that you need to find an empty fuse that is only powered when the vehicle's engine is running. Not just on Accessory.
The size of the fuse tap that you need will depend on what fuse holder you decide to use.
Anyone here with a Prado 150 (2010 is my model) that knows which fuse slot I could use?
G'day there get a mate to use a multi meter & find a fuse that only powers up when the engine is running mate & make sure no power when engine not on
thanks for watching
Cheers Craig
Too easy!