Thanks for showing us your tricks getting rid of steering slop. I always like when Traxxas parts fit Arrma cars. Thanks for providing all the details and parts used. 👍👍
@@phillybrc I'm going to watch your video again because it was so informative and I need to get my 3s running better. I would love to have a 6s or a TLR but for bashing the V3 works great and is less expensive to repair. If I could I would dump all my other cars just to have a backup 3s Typhon.
@@RCRoads I agree, maintenace on 6s Arrma s are more money. BUT…a pretty cool experience! I have a killer bash vid on my channel. Had so much fun. The kraton is a nut. I do ultimately tend to use my 3s cars more though. Thanx
Awsome mod, I've been using these Traxxas tie rod ends on my 3s rigs for a while now, much better option then the hot racing pivot balls, which are actually made from aluminum which wear out quickly.
This is a good upgrade, plastic balls wear very quickly 👍 I bought 2 sets of these 5525 parts, I removed 2 balls from spare rod ends, and I put them in the link between servo saver and steering rack. I needed to cut the balls a little bit - they were too tall. This is important, because the link between servo saver and steering rack also has plastic balls, which wear quickly 🖐️
Mesaage to 4s cars owners: Arrma cars have big rod ends on camber links and small rod ends on steering links. traxxas rod ends are medium size. For steering links if you use traxxas rod ends, the turnbuckle will be too long. There are 2 ways to fix it: 1. Drill hole in rod end a little bit to make it longer 2. Use 63mm turnbuckle instead of 71mm
Fixing slop in the servo link does make a big difference. But the servo link itself also wears down. The Hot Racing aluminum servo link is much more durable (ATF48SH02).
@@tyrellcorp2118 🖐️ Yes, it is a problem too and unfortunately you can't buy just the servo link. You need to get the whole steering rack to get that link 🤷🏻♂️ Arrma should use better plastic here 🧑🔬 I didn't try that HR part but it looks good 👍
Hey Philly! How are you!!!! Ya I started doing this on all my 3 s line. I have all of them. Also use the traxxas 1/10 wheel shims on the top of the bell crank poles right under the bulk head in the front. Then I go into the rest of the linkage to the servo and use spacers. I was going to make a video of this. Great idea! I never heard of anyone else doing this. I guess it’s a obvious fix if your sick of the slop. It makes a world of difference! Great putting out there. Very useful! It should have come with metal ball ends to behind with. 💥👊💯
The shims work. I also shim the bellcranks where they attach to the Ackerman plate, I think it makes even more of a difference than the steering posts.
I knew I was on too something when I put Traxxas pushrods on my Granite it helped so much and I changed one. Now I’m on another Granite and I think I’m going to change them all out too either Traxxas pushrods or ball ends. Cheers 🍻
@@phillybrc I think they will be superior in comparison as the plastic ball ends wear with age cause the slack and steel doesn’t so time for me too start switching it all out for steel Cheers 🍻
Thats a great mod. I have an arrma vorteks and added typhon a arms and links. I decided to use Hot Racing aluminum pivot balls to replace the composite or plastic oivot balls for the links. The HR pivot balls were like $15 or so..
Yes it is a great mod, thanx. That s a reasonable price actually. I just read online a few times that the HR balls don t last too long, hopefully you have good luck with them. I enjoy your channel bro, nice collection!
Great video! I was just installing new tires on my Big Rock and realized how bad the slop was.... not good at all! Did you replace the ends for the steering servo too? Looks like I have a lot of slop down in there too. Edit, nevermind.... I found part 2! Trimming down that ball with a Dremel sounds challenging. How long did it take for you do dl that? Thanks man!
What's the difference between doing this, vs swapping the stock composite pivot balls with aluminum ones? And only having to change out the worn plastic rod ends in the future? I could only assume that the aluminum pivot balls wear out? What metal are the Traxxas pivot balls made of?
I've found reducing the wiggle in the rod ends doesn't actually make the car drive straighter. What has made a difference is some things mentioned in the comments. Reducing wiggle in the servo link and shimming the steering posts and the bellcranks (where they meet the Ackerman). The Hot Racing aluminum servo link doesn't wear down like the stock plastic (ATF48SH02). The shims are 5x7mm. I no longer worry about the rod ends, my Granite tracks completely straight even though the rod ends have tons of wiggle.
For anyone that is doing this mod, I would recommend buying 1 Traxxas 5525 and 2 Traxxas 5529 pivot ball and shim kit. This would be cheaper and comes with its own shim kit. You just need to swap out the pivot balls for the bigger ones from the 5529 kit. You will have enough to compete the front and rear.
I believe the 5525 kit supplies the end links. This kit gives 2 different size pivot balls, some being on the small side. Remove the larger balls from the 5529 kit and install into the links from the 5525 kit. Perhaps J A is able to chime in here. Thanx guys
Hey do you have any recommendations on a tool set to buy for both traxxas and arrma? I hope to go to Lowe’s and get driver bits, and then a mini cordless impact drill, but I don’t know if it’s all Allen key, or star bit, Phillips etc?
I recomend MIP tools for RC s. Well, I have MIP hex bits for impact , they are great. 2mm and 2.5mm will be most used on Arrmas. Lowes won t likely have them. They are not cheap but you will pay the same once you throw your first set out. As for hand tools, I bought a cheap set from asia from my local hobby shop. They are holding up great though. To be honest, I m not sure what you will need on Traxxas. I do have an 1/18 th scale traxxas and it s Phillips head.
@@phillybrc great thanks that helps for sure, traxxas has bits but $10 each, and expensive sets, l'll just go with hand tools for now and buy a little kit. i been spending too much latety lol
Cool. For the money, they are great. Just shorten them about3/8” with some fuel tubing. Otherwise you strain the driveshafts by the increased angle. Makes sense?
Watch this next!: SHIM YOUR BELLCRANKS AND STEERING POSTS | ARRMA 3S th-cam.com/video/rPMqxy3GMtE/w-d-xo.html
Finally somebody working on those tiny Arrma issues.
Thanx for stopping by. It will help you!
Thanks for showing us your tricks getting rid of steering slop. I always like when Traxxas parts fit Arrma cars. Thanks for providing all the details and parts used. 👍👍
No probs, i m still using this set up. Thanx alot
@@phillybrc I'm going to watch your video again because it was so informative and I need to get my 3s running better. I would love to have a 6s or a TLR but for bashing the V3 works great and is less expensive to repair. If I could I would dump all my other cars just to have a backup 3s Typhon.
@@RCRoads I agree, maintenace on 6s Arrma s are more money. BUT…a pretty cool experience! I have a killer bash vid on my channel. Had so much fun. The kraton is a nut. I do ultimately tend to use my 3s cars more though. Thanx
Awsome mod, I've been using these Traxxas tie rod ends on my 3s rigs for a while now, much better option then the hot racing pivot balls, which are actually made from aluminum which wear out quickly.
Sa-weet! Glad to hear that. Lookin’ forward to some bashes soon!! Thanx for watchin’!
I put the hot racing pivot balls on mine they still good so far but if they start to wear im going traxxas
This is a good upgrade, plastic balls wear very quickly 👍
I bought 2 sets of these 5525 parts, I removed 2 balls from spare rod ends, and I put them in the link between servo saver and steering rack. I needed to cut the balls a little bit - they were too tall. This is important, because the link between servo saver and steering rack also has plastic balls, which wear quickly 🖐️
Mesaage to 4s cars owners:
Arrma cars have big rod ends on camber links and small rod ends on steering links. traxxas rod ends are medium size. For steering links if you use traxxas rod ends, the turnbuckle will be too long. There are 2 ways to fix it:
1. Drill hole in rod end a little bit to make it longer
2. Use 63mm turnbuckle instead of 71mm
Fixing slop in the servo link does make a big difference. But the servo link itself also wears down. The Hot Racing aluminum servo link is much more durable (ATF48SH02).
@@tyrellcorp2118 🖐️ Yes, it is a problem too and unfortunately you can't buy just the servo link. You need to get the whole steering rack to get that link 🤷🏻♂️ Arrma should use better plastic here 🧑🔬
I didn't try that HR part but it looks good 👍
@@Marek_Z_RC I think there are other aluminum servo links available. I just used the HR because I had one. I don't use the HR servo saver.
@@tyrellcorp2118 I wanted to try sway bar link from mt410 but it was shorter than the link in k4s, I couldn't find any links in good size 🙁
Hey Philly! How are you!!!! Ya I started doing this on all my 3 s line. I have all of them. Also use the traxxas 1/10 wheel shims on the top of the bell crank poles right under the bulk head in the front. Then I go into the rest of the linkage to the servo and use spacers. I was going to make a video of this. Great idea! I never heard of anyone else doing this. I guess it’s a obvious fix if your sick of the slop. It makes a world of difference! Great putting out there. Very useful! It should have come with metal ball ends to behind with. 💥👊💯
The shims work. I also shim the bellcranks where they attach to the Ackerman plate, I think it makes even more of a difference than the steering posts.
Hey Syko! Doing well man.I am goin to move to the bellcrank and seRvo linkages eventually. Glad it worked for you! Thanx dude!
@@tyrellcorp2118 Oh, good to know! That s next on the list.
@@phillybrc Thank you!!!
@@tyrellcorp2118 Absolutely, I shim/mod every component till 0 slop is achieved. 👍
Very nice! Cheers for this, I think I have some of these kicking around, time to refresh the senton
I got some Traxxas metal pivot balls and installed them the 3 mm nut is a really good idea thanks philly
Right on! They are way better. Thanx!
I knew I was on too something when I put Traxxas pushrods on my Granite it helped so much and I changed one.
Now I’m on another Granite and I think I’m going to change them all out too either Traxxas pushrods or ball ends.
Cheers 🍻
For sure, we'll see how long these pivot balls hold up! Thanx for watchin'
@@phillybrc I think they will be superior in comparison as the plastic ball ends wear with age cause the slack and steel doesn’t so time for me too start switching it all out for steel
Cheers 🍻
@@bubblesrcshed Cheers man, thanx for stoppin by. get to wrenchin!
@@phillybrc No problem brother I like your channel because i love Arrma’s as well.
I subbed 👍
Cheers 🍻
@@bubblesrcshed Much appreciated bro! 🙏🏼
Thats a great mod. I have an arrma vorteks and added typhon a arms and links. I decided to use Hot Racing aluminum pivot balls to replace the composite or plastic oivot balls for the links. The HR pivot balls were like $15 or so..
Yes it is a great mod, thanx. That s a reasonable price actually. I just read online a few times that the HR balls don t last too long, hopefully you have good luck with them. I enjoy your channel bro, nice collection!
Awesome! Thanks for posting this buddy 👍
THANX! Thanx for watching!
Awesome mod my friend. I'm thinking of doing this to my granite. Great info and video 👍
Thanx man. It s workin’ well!
Great video, thanks! A little tip, put a bit of grease on the washers and they will hold themselves in place.
That s a dynamite tip! Thx man!
Great video! I was just installing new tires on my Big Rock and realized how bad the slop was.... not good at all! Did you replace the ends for the steering servo too? Looks like I have a lot of slop down in there too.
Edit, nevermind.... I found part 2! Trimming down that ball with a Dremel sounds challenging. How long did it take for you do dl that? Thanks man!
Thanx Brian! It wasn t bad. I used some thin visegrips to hold the ball. Super effective mod. Thx man.
great information and upgrades
Nice work man, thanks for sharing 👍🏽
Thanx man! My pleasure
awesome vid on this. Yeah i have the Vorteks not too much of slop but its there. Just Subscribed brother
The slop will come!! Thanx alot man, I dig your channel!
awesome, thanks for sharing buddy....,
👍👍👍🙏😋
My pleasure! Thanx for watchin’ 🤜🤛
much better, great idea👌👍👍☺
Yep! Works well!! Thanx for watching
What's the difference between doing this, vs swapping the stock composite pivot balls with aluminum ones? And only having to change out the worn plastic rod ends in the future? I could only assume that the aluminum pivot balls wear out? What metal are the Traxxas pivot balls made of?
Exactly the aluminum wears out and the traxxas ones are harder steel. I m still using same setup since this video.
thanks for sharing brother..👍😃👍🇮🇩
Thanx for watchin man!
I've found reducing the wiggle in the rod ends doesn't actually make the car drive straighter. What has made a difference is some things mentioned in the comments. Reducing wiggle in the servo link and shimming the steering posts and the bellcranks (where they meet the Ackerman). The Hot Racing aluminum servo link doesn't wear down like the stock plastic (ATF48SH02). The shims are 5x7mm. I no longer worry about the rod ends, my Granite tracks completely straight even though the rod ends have tons of wiggle.
Oh wow, thanx for the input and numbers. I m gonna try those mods on my 3s cars. Thanx!
Where did you get the 5x7 shims? Are they from rc manu or hardware store?
@@phillybrc Alot of RC manufacturers sell them. Mine were Tekno, TKR1226
@@tyrellcorp2118 thanx Tyrell!
Tyrell, I m trying to find the 5x7 shims. I found kyosho s but they are real expensive. Have any info on the shimms you used? Thx!
For anyone that is doing this mod, I would recommend buying 1 Traxxas 5525 and 2 Traxxas 5529 pivot ball and shim kit. This would be cheaper and comes with its own shim kit. You just need to swap out the pivot balls for the bigger ones from the 5529 kit. You will have enough to compete the front and rear.
Oh cool, thanks for the input. I was unaware of this kit, appreciated.
@@phillybrc you are welcome, my local hobby shop has been running low on supplies and stumbled upon 5529 due to them not having 5525.
so which links get the 5525 and which ones get the 5529? or it doesnt matter?
I believe the 5525 kit supplies the end links. This kit gives 2 different size pivot balls, some being on the small side. Remove the larger balls from the 5529 kit and install into the links from the 5525 kit. Perhaps J A is able to chime in here. Thanx guys
@@synergyiii the pivot balls from the 5529 set are the ones you want to use. You will notice the size difference once you get both sets.
Hey do you have any recommendations on a tool set to buy for both traxxas and arrma? I hope to go to Lowe’s and get driver bits, and then a mini cordless impact drill, but I don’t know if it’s all Allen key, or star bit, Phillips etc?
I recomend MIP tools for RC s. Well, I have MIP hex bits for impact , they are great. 2mm and 2.5mm will be most used on Arrmas. Lowes won t likely have them. They are not cheap but you will pay the same once you throw your first set out. As for hand tools, I bought a cheap set from asia from my local hobby shop. They are holding up great though. To be honest, I m not sure what you will need on Traxxas. I do have an 1/18 th scale traxxas and it s Phillips head.
@@phillybrc great thanks that helps for sure, traxxas has bits but $10 each, and expensive sets, l'll just go with hand tools for now and buy a little kit. i been spending too much latety lol
@@warehouse1429 i know all about it!
@@phillybrc what’s the name of the FB group for arrma?
@@warehouse1429 Arrma: Granite,senton,vorteks& bigrock. That s one of them...very good.
How do you like the zd shocks
Holding up really well. They are a bit too long and need to be shortened👍🏻
@@phillybrc I just got them 🤙
Cool. For the money, they are great. Just shorten them about3/8” with some fuel tubing. Otherwise you strain the driveshafts by the increased angle. Makes sense?
@@1994RALLY th-cam.com/video/kglXk7-ZvdI/w-d-xo.html
My arrma typhon 3s has a problem the inside edge of the weel/rim is cutting in to the turnbuckle ends
Hmm, is the hex to your wheel damaged? Maybe your bearing or your steering knuckle is broken.
No the car is not damaged it is new is the steering knuckle all the way inside the rim normally
@@johnsxterra9020 send me a pic on messenger, if you can
@@phillybrc I do not know what messenger is sorry I have to go to work right now maybe later thank you for your reply
@@johnsxterra9020 email: philborrelli@hotmail.com
Now she's nice and tight .👍
Yep! Love it! 👌🏻
Hay bro your comments are turned off if you didn't know on your new video .
What the heck? Why? Thanx so much. I hope i fixed it. If you get a moment , will you message me on that video? Appreciate my friend.
Fix an arrma with traxxas parts. 😂
@@mattshanks6674 Hahahaha. Whatever it takes!