Slytherin’s Wife BECAME The Basilisk | Harry Potter Film Theory
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Today J dives into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to try and uncover the truth about the Basilisk in the Chamber of Secrets. We know Slytherin had an heir, but who was his wife? Is it possible we’ve known her all along as the victim of a terrible Maledictus Curse?
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We need the SCB founders series!
I think a Hogwarts Founders movie/series is what the fans have wanted and been asking for (and would have the most interesting story/lore) but the powers that be never seem to want to go that route...
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That twist on the dark mark actually being a symbol of love is extra good because it further illustrates voldemorts fundamental lack of understanding of love
Not only that but it could also be symbolism that when cast in the sky refers to mourning the death of a loved one
My interpretation has always been that slytherine did mean "no muggleborns" because he feared for the students safety because muggles were killing witches and wizards
Okay, heres my personal theory. Salazar Slytherin thought this initially, but the founders didn't agree with it despite his understandable stance. After a while of pushing, the other founders start distancing themselves from him, and eventually, his at first genuine concern gets radicalized into what hes known for now.
@@thatkingdomheartsguy9615 I agree with you 100% here. I think He begun with the concern but the other founders' unwillingness to side with him drove him to fanaticism and eventually his creation of the basilisk and departure from the school.
@@Moseswasntamerican That's what I think, too
I agree kinda I don't think he hated muggleborns I think he wanted to take them when they were very young and have them raised by wizarding families. But the other founders disagreed so he left
Legitimate question, were they?
Merlin of Arthurian legend was a student at Hogwarts, which suggests that the persecution of witches and wizards came much later than the days of Slytherin and Co.
This theory is so interesting! One thing I'm getting hung up on is that Herpo the Foul was the first to breed a basilisk and also a Parselmouth all the way back in Ancient Greece. He was born with the ability way before Slytherin's time. So, I think it seems more likely to me that Slytherin was born a Parselmouth and that his ability to talk to snakes may have been part of what brought him and his wife together since they had that common language rather than him learning Parselmouth from his wife. Also, the fact that Herpo the Foul bred the first basilisk makes me feel a bit hesitant about the basilisk being an option for a maledictus to transform into. It seems to me like it's a non-natural animal similar to a mule or a liger, but we don't really have any rules around what a maledictus can become so who can say! Thanks for always sharing such interesting theories and finding new ways to explore the wizarding world! 🤗
Yeah these were my thoughts too. The better question would be why Herpo the Foul was a Parseltongue.
The pure blood angle is interesting because I recall hearing years ago that in media when a spell calls for "pure blood" laypeople think it means a virgin's blood, so they look for young children and such, but what it actually means is blood that has not been used in spell work before. So assuming what I heard when I was 10, is true it's a cool connection about how the idea of what pure blood means can be misinterpreted.
Video idea- how did Voldemort exactly curse the defense against the dark arts position at Hogwarts. A position is not a real thing. Also how powerful was the curse that Dumbledore couldn't get rid of it for such a long time.
Nice… I’d assume it’s more like “I curse you” type of thing than an actual spell but I suppose it’s possible. If it is then I’m sure these guys could figure it out.
That's actually fair, if it was on Dumbledores ability to fill the position it should have ended at his death but it definitely continued making Snape have to flee, and the whatjamacallems being taken out of the rolls before the battle of hogwarts
He cursed dumbledoor.
I have a simple answer. He made the employment contract cursed. We know that books can curse the reader.
“You’d be surprised,” said Ron, who was looking apprehensively at the book. “Some of the
books the Ministry’s confiscated Dad’s told me - there was one that burned your eyes out. And
everyone who read Sonnets of a Sorcerer spoke in limericks for the rest of their lives. And some
old witch in Bath had a book that you could never stop reading! You just had to wander around
with your nose in it, trying to do everything one-handed. And -” -chamber of secrets
I have to assume that there is some sort of employment agreement/payroll contract thing for teachers. Maybe it is on the wizard version of that.
I like to think the curse was part of the Room of Requirement's defences of the diadem. I wonder if Riddle managed to get the room to become a highly secure magical vault for the diadem, and part of the defence was to get rid of the school's experts in DADA, who might work out how to destroy his horcrux. But Riddle didn't realise that the diadem would also appear in a room of hidden things, without its defences.
After watching this video I am 100% convinced that you are right. The idea of Godrick and Salazar's friendship still working after a thousand years to help Harry defeat Voldemort is absolutely heartwarming.
I know you don’t exactly take requests, especially from non-patrons, but you should do a J vs Ben British or Wizard quiz. Where you’re given different names, foods, and customs and you have to determine whether it’s exclusive to the wizard world, or normal for British people. (Also you wouldn’t have to do a normal J vs Ben format)
I think they’ve mentioned this exact thing on the Through the Griffin Door podcast. While reading book 1 there were a lot of candies specifically mentioned and they couldn’t decide whether it was a wizard thing or just a British thing
As a British person, I genuinely can't decide if that would be hilarious or excruciating
@@edwardwestmoreland-caunter6128 yes
You could even add another level. Living hundreds of years wth limited contact to others could be a huge stressor for Mrs Slytherin. Her partner, kids and basically everyone who knew her as a person is long gone. Also there aren't many descendants left and those have adopted a hateful and dangerous ideology. In this scenario she can't resist orders in parceltongue, but is able to recognizes the events happening around her.
After killing someone accidentally(Myrtle) and having to attack many muggleborns all of this could be enough for her. Tom commands her to fight Harry, but what if she didn't want to win? Even Harry's injury is more like collateral damage than a successfull attack.
i think one of the decendants long after slythein died went to the chamber found the wife but didnt know who she was and confunded the snake to obey his commands
I agree 100% with this
I think to add to this is the significance of Tom Riddle’s own mother, Merope. At first, Tom assumed he got his magic from his father until he couldn’t find any magical families named Riddle. Then he looked into his middle name Marvolo and found the Gaunts. If Slytherin’s children got their Parseltongue abilities from their mother, it’s a parallel between how Tom got his same powers from his mother’s family
i really love the headcanon they've been making about salazar's intentions and beliefs just being twisted by time and others interpretations. it saddens me knowing that if we ever get actual info on that era they're just gonna find a way to mess it up so that "nope, slytherin is just as evil as we were alluding".
You'll be alright. Everything that is made today has no bad people, just misunderstood people. It's more likely that Slytherin will be severely disadvantaged in some ways to garner sympathy from the audience.
It's funny, watching this video i was like "this is how they'd present it on tv in this day and age." You can't just have an evil guy being evil for the sake of it anymore.
@@TheMuddFishh oh yeah, i completely forgot. thanks for the hope
Wasnt Herpo the Foul a parsalmouth?
Based on the name alone, the answer is yes
Jay!
I forgot to ask this on the last episode of through the Griffin door.
You mention Hedwig is a very special owl....what if hedwig is so smart and special because she is a maledictus????
Oh my gosh, I can't believe that this isn't higher up! Maybe some old order of the Phoenix character? So she knows to protect Harry.
i want a fan fiction where harry talks to mrs slytherin in the walls
Snake venom having anticoagulants in it is actually a thing in real snakes. While I agree that there's uniquely magical about Nagini, it's not the way her venom works.
Well, the fact that Nagini is a python AND is venomous is unique in general.
@@captainspaulding5963 it's just movie stuff I think. I don't think they specified the species in the book. And in the movies a python just looks a whole lot better than any venomous snake, simply because of their size.
@@einstijn138 I don't know about that.... a 30 foot CGI cobra would have looked amazing, and actually made sense to be venomous.
@shaunperron7080 Bro, I was actually thinking something similar to this, and even made a comment 😂 (I don’t mean to hop on your comment like that tho, rather want to contribute and build up a bit on this) Look:
4:50 Maybe her poison is similar to Sectumsempra, or an inspiration of it. Just a thought, btw love the channel 🫶🏼🙌🏼
Ps: sorry I had to edit, but it also feels worse knowing that the Poison Professor was killed by a poison that has the same effect as the curse that he invented.. Harry failed, but Nagini succeeded 😢
Had no idea about that but I feel there is still a difference. Feel like they should be able to magically remove or create a cure for such venoms if it was non-magical. The fact that no one at st Mungos can fix it seems to show that there is something magical about the venom
Wasn’t Herpo the Foul the first parselmouth? The one who bred the first bassalisk and made the first horcrux. Maybe I’m wrong but I remember hearing that somewhere
Slytherin building a safe space for his wife is actually so sweet of him
People can't become Basilisks... That's not how you make a Basilisk
Well, at least it’s somewhat romantic
The 'stache is both glorious and creepy. I love it!
Nagini in the movies presents as a reticulated python.
Yes, but pythons don't have venom. It's like a diricawl presenting itself as a dodo, or the real-life example of black leopards being identical to black jaguars. Identical on the surface.
@@Alejandroigarabide According to FB, a diricawl doesn't "present" as a dodo. It IS a dodo. Or rather, "dodo" was the muggle name for it.
@@Lordmewtwo151 Wow. That actually makes too much sense.
@@Alejandroigarabide a black jaguar is literally genetically the same as a regular jaguar, and the SURFACE appearance is the only difference. The melanism that makes it black is the only thing setting them apart.
In the case of Nagini having venom it would be more like milk snakes VS coral snakes; they look very similar, but a milk snake is harmless with no venom and a coral snake can kill you.
Missed opportunity to say that because Tom Riddle is Slytherin's descendant,Slytherin would have had to Asalt Sired an heir
Is she the one that founded wizarding school in America ?
@@DeepakKumar-fi4os yeah,she's a descendant of Slytherin
Not to mention that Mrs. Slythrin was alone for a thousand years. She finally got relief, thanks to Griffindor. JS IMHO
My personal headcanon, actually formed after listening to the podcast Through the Griffin Door, is as follows:
Slytherin was married to a witch, who at some point after giving birth to their first son or daughter, is captured by muggle witch hunters, and sentenced to be burned at the stake.
Unable to cast a simple flame freezing charm as there was no place to learn such a thing prior to Hogwarts, she is one of the few witches to truly succumb to the flames and perished.
Thus after, Slytherin felt nothing but anguish fuled rage towards the muggles, and felt that the muggle-born witches and wizards coming to Hogwarts were no better than those misguided people who had killed his wife.
May not be true, but I dig it.
Also, a quick P.S:
I've been loving the TTGD podcast you guys have been doing.
Great content, and some awesome early theory development within each episode.
A wonderful breakdown of the first couple of books so far, very much enjoyed.
Alread on POA Chapter 1, Owl Post, and looking forward to more!
Definitely recommend
Yeah I liked that theory a lot better than this one.
@@Mary_Studios there is one thing from the video i do agree with. The parseltounge idea of it being so specific that it had to have been something in the salazar line in particular that caused it.
@@tolkienism3806 Yeah it's defently odd that only his desendants seem to have that power.
You guys should just make a founder series 🍿🎬
This theory is astounding! I also like to think that along with Harry slaying the basilisk with the sword, it not only shows the friendship between Godric and Salazar lasting all this time, but also that Godric is finally reuniting Salazar with his wife after such a long time of separation.
IDK about this one guys. I'm 99% sure that the basilisk is just a regular basilisk and he just had a regular wife/partner that wasn't talked about in the story. Not everything has to be connected to only stuff we know about. Plus most of the other founders have known descendants without any specific details about their partners.
And not everyone needs to be in a relationship, either ;)
@@captainspaulding5963 yeah, but its kinda necessary to keep the bloodline going
@@satan3862 They probably meant that you don't have to be in a set relationship, like a marriage, to have kids.
@@satan3862 no, no it isn't. In the slightest.... you 1000000000% don't need to be in a relationship to have a child.
@@Elholz it isn't even the case of not being in a set relationship. Quite literally there are children born every day because of a chance encounter between 2 consenting adults, that will never see each other again.
Isnt a basilisk the egg of a serpent or toad that has been hatched/incubated by a cockerel
Correct!
"You need a shave, my friend" -Albus Dumbledore
thats from the movie it’s not in the books
@@Samharsanyistill a Dumbledore quote
Was it "my boy" or "my friend"?
This! 🔥🔥🔥 that mustache has to go 😂
If it was animal husbandry, petrifying people is the LEAST worst thing Salazar has done......
Ooh, a whole new meaning to husbandry. Brrr.
This sounds like something out of the AI theory video 💀
Judge for yourself after you watch - it sound wild but its SO plausible!
@@SuperCarlinBrothersyou can’t fool me I know this is kangaroo kat or Quizabelle or EthanAnswers in disguise
What doesn't
@@SuperCarlinBrothersDo you take requests for another roasting of Chat theories? That was fun.
For real. SCB quality of videos have recently gone down and has become too ridiculous to believe now. Plus all their videos can be summed up into their last 2 mins of the video which is really annoying imo
4:52 If memory serves me right, a number of snake venoms actually do have this ability to varying strengths. The idea being it bites its victim and waits out their demise before helping themselves to a dead prey, rather than risking being killed.
So Tom riddle just visited his great great grandmother. How sweet of him!
13:42 or he lied to her, he was known to be very charismatic
It sounds great! My twist on it would be it's Slytherin's daughter, and that the reason he left the other founders was to find a cure, but he could not. Maybe the founders agreed to make the "Disagreement" up to protect his daughter (or wife) from hate, as his sudden dissappearance from the school may make other's suspicous.
That's a good theory ❤
The stache looks SO GOOD
Honestly, one of the best theories I've seen from you guys with each puzzle piece falling into place! I love the idea that Slytherin real intensions were skewed and lost to time because of a bunch of crazies wanting to use him as a symbol of power to back up their ideologies. Even the left overs of him that remained in the story make more sense in this theory!
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But what about Herpo the Foul who was a predecesor to Slytherin? He was a parselmouth and the first to make a Horcrux and the guy that created Basilisks in the first place with his experiments? They don't even know of he ever died, he could still be alive. Aaand he even accomplished Voldemort ultimate goal of being featured in the Chocolate Frog Card collection. He's basically a better version of Voldemort in every aspect. Maybe he could be tied into this theory but as it is this is a loose tread in it
That is a Super Mario level mustache. Bravo Bravo
The clip of the locket opening to Jay saying "duh" was PERFECT.
To add to that theory with one of my own that I had for a long time, namely that the basilisk never wanted to kill any students!!
Like isn't it suspitious that every person in Harrys years got so luckly to only ever be petrified? That no one every died even Filchs cat? And that nothing ever happend to the bodys after they were petrified? Like the snake could have eaten them or at least tried to kill them another way the via deadly that that hasn't worked for the last 4 times, like it has the most deadly venom and even without its big enough to swallow a person whole but everyone just made it out fine asside from being petrified??and that even after they were petrified the basilisk never like ate the body or something? (Seriously how and what does the giant snake even eat?)
And isn't it odd that the only confiremed kill is Mirtel? which many readers have long suspected to have been an accident since it happened in the bathroom with the entrance to the chamber so she might just have been unlicky by walking in on Tom entering/exiting the chamber with the basilisk.
But if the basislisk was human once that would explain her not only being oddly smart but also why she would want to protect the students even against Toms orders
I always love watching your Potter theories, even if they are weird. They are just a crazy as the wizarding world itself and im all in for it.
Hope to see some more what if's in ths future. Really enjoy those videos especially these 2:
• What If Harry Potter was in Slytherin.
• What if Neville Longbottom was The Chosen One.
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They're probably still obligated under contract to mention them
Oh, goodness! I'm so sorry that happened to people! I've never looked into it myself, as I really don't trust 'therapy'.
Kinda difficult to break a contract
@@captainspaulding5963 you're on their Board of Directors? You know their legal bindings? DROP THE SPONSER ASAP
Maybe they have a contract.
Absolutely love your videos, especially the Harry Potter ones. Your theories are always so interesting. Love Ben and J. You are amazing as are your videos.
The Mustache is great ❤❤❤❤
Takes "would you still love me if i was a worm" to new depths
I love this one! It makes the whole story line way better is so many ways!
Awesome as always thanks guys ❤
This is one of my favorite videos. Honestly a fire theory!
2:13 it does makes sense
this is so cool!
another layering could be the simple fact that Slytherin house is already tainted by misconceptions and gossip making it appear to be an evil house, it would be on brand for his message to be so badly misconstrued.
Tom: Tell me your secrets locket. How did Slytherin plan to kill all mudbloods?
Locket: I don't know about that man, but I know this great hiding place you can share a secret snog with your girlfiend.
I fricking LOVE this theory! It really repaints Salazar as a good, albeit flawed, person instead of this villain, and adds so much to the dynamic of the Founders.
I would love to see this developped further, about how much love there was in his life and how he went through all of it. It does for an amazing story.
Such an amazing theory! 🤯🤩
Loved every minute of it. Thanks for sharing!
You are blowing my mind right now. (Also love the mustache).
Always love the theories your channel comes up with. This actually makes sense, and it had never even crossed my mind that there must have been partners or spouses of the founding four.
1. How would parsletounge have been passed on?
2. The statue of Slytherin is only in the movies
3.How would his wife have lived so long?
4. I don't think Slytherin would have just left his wife
(I just don't understand it. Sorry)
Just a reminder: The basilisk in the chamber of secrets cannot be an animagus of someone, because it is canon that if an animagi dies in their animal form they revert to back to their human body
Love the theory and the moustache! ❤
I believe it is possible there have been other Parslemouths, but they just didn't make themselves well known. And post Voldemort, it would obviously be a sign of evil, even more reason to hide it. Plus, we don't know enough about other magical communities to know if Parsletongue is just rare in the English area. Maybe it's more common in other parts of the world, and we just don't know.
Omg! This has to be my most favorite theory ever!!!! And it makes so much more sense why the other founders were so chill about it! 😻💚
This is the best theory I've heard in a long time. Well done!
Happy SCB Day! 🐍🦅🦡🦁
This is my favorite theory so far!
A great set up for your founders series. Keep up the theories
Did you guys get this idea from "THROUGH THE GRIFFIN BEFORE"? I remember the SCB crew talking about the scarlet plume 😂
That’s a pretty wild theory and it sounds pretty cool. I really like it a lot. Good job guys.
the fidelius charm on the Chamber is brilliant. and fits so well with the locket passing on the location
Mannnnn, I'm a massive fan of HP and SCB but this has given me a whole new perspective i wouldve never considered! Love your work, intelligence and dreativity guys!!!
I have a question, what if when harry met dumbledore in kings cross, what if voldemort also met and spoke with dumbledore in a place where he first truly found out about the wizarding world?
Okay so if this is the case, I want to reference back to when you guys theorized that Salazaar himself might be petrified in the chamber. If he did end up unpetrified and found out some git named Harry Potter ran his wife thru with his ex best friends old sword, he might try to hunt him down. Sequel series??
I just feel like he’s gonna prank us and pull it off at the end. Like the kids glasses disguise.
Also goes so well with your other theory that that the salizar statue in the chambed is actually salazar himself... trying to stay alive to be with his wife cursed to live so long. What a lo e story!
He made her outside match her inside after she tried to take all his stuff in the divorce.
I wasn’t sure about this one to begin with but after watching it I do love it thematically ❤
Shocked that the "Love, Harry" clip wasnt used!
I gotta say; at first I thought you had jumped the shark, but now I really like this idea.
I haven’t even started but I know it will be a good video!!!!
This one really felt good!
I love this concept, has so many cool ramifications. It also makes a lot of sense since people throughout history, often misunderstand the views and statements of others from long ago.
Also it's fascinating that Nagini's venom was used. It keeps wounds open and yet helped Voldy create a body. What if it's related to the love and friendship Nagini had for Voldy?
14:45 not to mention also horribly corrupted the locket, which if this theory is true, was a gift to Slytherin from his wife, which just adds a whole new layer to the whole Voldemort not comprehending love at all
⚠️Off topic from video, day eleven of asking for what ifs⚠️
1: What if Dudley went to Hogwarts? I think he'd be a Hufflepuff and be pretty good at defense against the dark arts and I think it would be fun to have him be good at divination cause none of the golden trio are good at or even seem to respect it.
2: What if Aang died with the other Air nomads and one of the other main characters eventually became the Avatar? I think the most interesting would be Sokka and Zuko.
3: What if Prim became the Mockingjay? The only way I see this happening is if Katniss gets caught hunting and either gets killed or sent to the Capital and becomes an avox, a year or two before Prims game so she gets some survival skills not as good as Katniss but better than nothing.
I am definately using this idea in my fanfic (if I ever get around to actually writing that). It probably won't be mentioned in the story, but I'm keeping it in mind when I'm writing the characters.
This is such a wild theory but i do love how the context of the original beliefs is lost and it’s totally different
I ❤ this theory 3000
Great Job Tomas Soleil for the seed of the idea and Bros for fleshing it out and sharing!
Love this theory!
😮 You said "A safe place for his wife to live out the rest of her life away from people to hurt" and I felt it. And he left the door open to visit her.
As above So bellow. Equivalent exchange. FMAB is stong in you lol.
The argument that they're the only line to speak the language convinced me! And I love how it just changes his views to be a very good person!
This literally changed my entire perception on Slytherin house. Misunderstanding everything SS stood for those that hated muggles flocked to Slytherin, a bunch became dark wizards, and that completely reshaped what it meant to be Slytherin over the centuries 🤯
HEY BROTHER!
This is probably 👏🏻THE👏🏻BEST👏🏻THEORY you guys have EVER posted!!! I love it. There should be a movie made about this. The prequel to the prequel of the HP world where the founders live in an almost Narnia-like world and it starts all beautiful and fantastic but is dramatic and has a dark end 🤩
Amazing twist, and it actually makes a lot more sense, beautiful 🎩
You know, Salazar, and Voldemort kinda, give me the vibes of people that really.. err… LOVED their snake companions 😂😂
Why is the exact replica of Ned Flanders giving awesome HP theories? I darn diddly dare you to put on the Flanders outfit for the next recording 🤣
That mustache is coming in nicely. Looking good man
this is such an incredible theory whoa
So is Herpo the Foul not an ancient Greek wizard? I thought basilisk breeding had been a thing for centuries and was outlawed around the time of the founders. But when I checked I noticed Newt only says he's Greek, it's chocolate frog cards that seem to say ancient greek but I haven't found any specific dates for some reason even though I know some in official games are extremely detailed. I mean I guess by all this logic Herpo the Foul could be Salazar's son and still be the original breeder of basilisks and a parselmouth (due to being related to slytherin) while also allowing time for Salazar to also have one. But idk. I like this theory, but I couldn't stop thinking about this. 😅
loving the new tache
HEEEYYYYYYY BROTHER! ❤
Hey!