I have been pondering on this subject for a long long time when i was trying to upgrade my surround speakers, so it is great to see someone finally does a review on this subject! Kudos to you!
@@edwardwilson9195 I think you a fool lol wasting that money on Chinese production speakers when you can shop directly from the China base svs manufacturer and spend about 700 less
Between the Amazing Spider Man #153 and Ultimate Iron Man #1 covers, to the Lego setup, to the actual advice this is one of my favorite videos on this channel.
Hey brother. Thank you for continually posting these informative videos. Your calm demeanor and eloquence in speech makes it really easy to comprehend such a subject that would seemingly be confusing or difficult to pay attention to due to its complexity in natural. Again, your time, knowledge and support in the community is much appreciated.
I don’t usually make comments, but this was an excellent presentation. I first started using surround systems with the television more than 30 years ago when my “big screen” was a 27 inch crt. It added great dimension. Of course, I upgraded televisions and receivers over the years, but replaced speakers only when necessary, choosing to repair my front JBL’s several years ago. With today’s large and relatively inexpensive high resolution screens we can enjoy a more theater like experience even without a dedicated theater room, such as a family room. I have been more recently reinfected with the home theater bug and have been attempting to improve my viewing experience in my open family room environment. I have watched many videos on home theater setups in dedicated and nondedicated environments and the separate various aspects. But none on this topic! And I have been interested in learning about dipole speakers. Your video really helped. But, I would really like to know when it would be beneficial to use the dipole speakers. I don’t like to make purchases only to later realize there was a better option. Could you revisit this topic to explain when the listening environment would benefit from dipole speakers?
This is probably one of the best "take it to basics" videos I have seen in a long time. Great job! How about doing a follow up compare between in ceiling speakers and dedicated height speakers (wedged shaped speakers that are popping up all over the place). Can both be used for DTX and Atmos? What are the pros and cons. Keep up the good work!
Thanks 🙏🏾! Unfortunately my room and seating positions aren’t setup for in ceiling so I can’t do a proper video but I do have an Atmos video in mind. It’ll probably be out in a few weeks.
Dipole & tripole speakers are best used as surrounds IF you have only have one set of (side) surrounds and you have two rows of seating. It's always ideal to have monopole speakers though.
Thinking outside the box on good content and what’s actually important to viewers with regards to set up, we all know what’s ideal or what Dolby suggest but it’s a superb video that gives us an insight in real world what the differences could be in like with the various options on offer. Thanks for taking the time to do this one, extremely informative and a brilliant watch!
I have bipole speakers as my surround in my atmos setup, and I absolutely love it. The surround effects are much more realistic in my opinion than when I had directional speakers.
Interesting... I just replaced my bi-pole surrounds with mono-poles. The challenge I have is a small listening area and the bi-poles were directing the high frequencies in areas that were interfering with other speakers. For my situation mono-poles are much easier to live with. My sound system consists of 4 SVS Ultra Bookshelf speakers (2 for the mains and 2 for the side channels), an SVS Ultra Center speaker, 6 SVS Prime Elevation speakers (4 ceiling mounted for Dolby Atmos and 2 mounted on the rear wall for the rear channels) and 2 SVS SB-3000 Subwoofers. The system is powered by a Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A8A 11 channel AVR connected to a Panamax M5400-PM Power Conditioner.
Great video.I personally use the Klipsch dipole only because I am sitting so close to my surround speakers and it helps to not blare directly in my ear. Otherwise I would probably use the direct radiating one.
Fantastic tutorial!..You are so RIGHT!! ...I had the Klipsch Dipole speakers with my Atmos setup for years and just switched to direct radiating speakers and WOW!!...unbelievable difference....I was missing so much! Thanks Again for the tutorial ...I just became a Subscriber...Good Luck on the channel!
I love watching your videos. And I don’t know why I feel the need to comment every time and compliment each video, but they really are on another level compared to other home theater channels. Thank you again for the quality content!
I just found this. Excellent presentation and really laid out in a easily understood way. I was trying to dig up some info on dipole vs bipole vs monopole and you summed it up for me in a clearly understood manner. Thanks, you have a new subscriber.
I sold my Boston Acoustics Dipoles for Klipsch RB-51ii Bookshelf Speakers, and the directional experience was a definite improvement, thanks for the validation, Cody.
I agree, this is the best explanation I have ever heard covering sound expectation versus actual experience. Really interesting and covered everything I wanted to know in a very short period time. I am knew to this hobby and currently planning a home theatre build. This is exactly the type of content I am looking for. Thank you Cody!
Wow thats a very helpful video. Ive always liked my bipole/dipoles, but i dont use them in my atmos system. Its good to know the monopole really is better for atmos. Thanks for doing and sharing this experiment, along with your other videos! Also, block demonstration was a good idea when you explained how heights/phantom speakers work in atmos.
Good video. I went with bipole speakers for my rear speakers in my 5.1.4 setup. For two reasons: rear speakers are only 1 foot behind the listening position and 1 foot above. So a more dispersed sound is better cause of the close proximity. Also, I got a cheap pair on sale. Sounds very good. I haven't heard any other speakers. No idea how others would sound in my room
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist for close proximity, bipole or dipole speakers are better. Imo, they were designed for that application and because back in the day there was "only" 5.1 sound formats. If you can setup a 7.1 with perfect angles and distances, I wouldn't choose a dipole/bipole design but the reality is that most of us aren't fortunate enough to have a space with a perfect layout and for that, these speakers are a very good choice. I use bipole speakers in my 5.2 setup as well since my listening position is right up against the back wall.
Dolby and DTS do not recommend true dipole surround speakers for their immersive sound formats, as they smear the sound stage too much. If you are sitting about four feet or less from your base layer surrounds, then bipole surrounds are recommended to lessen hot spotting where you get too direct a point of sound firing toward your ears. If you happen to have a wider and/or longer room, then traditional monopole speakers are potentially the better choice. Your speakers should be timbre matched as closely as possible around the room for a more seamless experience.
agreed, my media room is 6*3 m and direct speakers are too easy to localize with no phantom sound while panning, so I went with rp502 for sides (1,5 m away) and 402 for rears(1,2m away). I'm in a bubble this way, opposed to having rp160m before, which made panning on a side like hearing three speakers consecutively, vs making a straight line with bipoles. Also, sides are a bit in front of a two seat recliner, as I really feel the influence of person next to me blocking the sound path
An excellent video, THANK YOU! I recently replaced my bi-pole surrounds with mono-poles. When I started with 5.1, the bi-poles were fantastic. My system expanded to 7.2.4 and I found the high frequencies from the side bi-poles were directed towards areas I didn't want the sound to go. Switching to mono-poles for the sides made a great improvement! My sound system consists of 4 SVS Ultra Bookshelf speakers (2 for the mains and 2 for the side channels), an SVS Ultra Center speaker, 6 SVS Prime Elevation speakers (4 ceiling mounted for Dolby Atmos and 2 mounted on the rear wall for the rear channels) and 2 SVS SB-3000 Subwoofers. The system is powered by a Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A8A 11 channel AVR connected to a Panamax M5400-PM Power Conditioner.
The BARE MINIMUM layout for adequate immersive surround is 5.1.4 (with hopefully more than one subwoofer to help even out the frequency response in the room). Yes, budget receivers also do 5.1.2, but you lose quite a bit of object panning across the ceiling with only two overhead speakers.
Amazing explanation. I assumed bipolar speakers would be good for surrounds till I watched this video. You’ve save me a lot of $$ and improved surround sound quality.
Excellent video. It's good to get informed by these testing setup type videos before I buy something and regret it. I know that sounds bad, but I'm at the beginning of my HT journey. Thanks Cody.
Thank you for the video, i was going to upgrade my atmos speakers and was thinking about getting a set of those surround speakers but now i know to keep the bookshelf speakers
great video, good info, I have all those types of speakers in my setup now, looking to add atmos enabled later. I'll look to see if you have recommendations for atmos.
Very informative and I can't wait to try out this movie on Prime. They have Atmos movies and this is one of them. Never new the difference of a di-pole and bi-pole until your video. Thanks!!!!!!
I'm still using Klipsh THX 5000 surround speaker for the left n right surround because my listening position is so close (4.5 feet) center listening position to left and to the right!.. Man really enjoy your channel..... Clear explanation 👍
Dipole/Bipole diffused surround speakers belong in the 90's where they were a requirement for THX decolleration specs. For modern object based multichannel, you want direct firying speakers, better those that can be tilted towards the MLP. For me, Focal Dome Flax works best. I have 6 of them for surround, top front and back. Ny fronts are Focal Aria 906 and CC900 center. I'm now considering to get two additional dome flax for back surround.
Great video! One note though. The arendal speaker you tested can function like a direct radiating speaker or triaxial speaker depending on whether you remove the 2 plates connecting the front and side drivers on the back. It should function more like a traditional bookshelf in that mode.
Thanks! I didn’t mention this in the video but I did all my testing and wrote my conclusions before looking into the Dolby documentation. I’m always trying to optimize my system so I like to do various test where possible then research facts and community opinion. It does make me happy that my listening results match Dolby recommendations for audio mixers but really I wanted to find what works best. 😁
Great video !! I’m using def tech sr 9080 bipolar for surround back and side .. I would like to replace with monopole ones .. and would like to place the sr9080 as 4 height speakers.. which surround u recommend to replace with ? Does it be timber matched one ? Fronts are def tech bp9080x and center is paradigm prestige 55c …
I recently was able to lengthen my soundstage, and was using a pair of RP402’s for rear surrounds to make the rear sound larger than it was. I had RP160M’s as my side surrounds. Once I rotated my room to take advantage of the length, the RP160M’s were moved to rear surround duty, and the RP402’s became my side surrounds. Their bipole design helped a lot with the length of the room. Now, my side surrounds have been upgraded to the bigger RP502’s, and my rear surrounds match my front L/R being RP600M’s. I’ve noticed a big difference.
I use 2 of the 402s as my rear surround as I don't have much choice. They make the perfect solution when your couch is up against a wall and there is no room behind you for rear speakers. In that case, the 402's out to the side of you on the wall right behind you, make a good choice. It was either that or install in-wall speakers at the rear as there is no other way to get something behind you when you are up against the wall.
I’ve had the 1723S surrounds for a couple of years now and I’ve been pushing off testing them in monopole mode and comparing it to triaxial mode. Now, I think I’m going to put them in monopole mode and run with it a bit next time I have time to run a new calibration. Great video.
I like how you explained it. It made more sense to me now. I love how you use the big lego blocks. Thank you for making this video. New subscriber here.
That was a brilliant use of Mega Blocks! I have a question. Is the overall experience less immersive when you can pinpoint which speaker the sound is coming from? Does it take your attention off the screen? I ask this because I remember my first 5.1 experience. It was The Lion King. I was in the theater, and a bird or something made a noise beside me, and I turned my head to look, and I was taken out of the film experience.
Cody, i do have a question which i think most of your viewers would be interested in, which is that most of us use our living room to double as our home theater space and typically we have couches against the wall, with the side surrounds right next to the sofa. Would the tripole speakers be better in this instance?
This is a really good question! So for the person that is sitting in the center a monopole is really good, as @double T said. But for those sitting on either end of the couch, nearest the speaker, a bipole is probably better since the drivers aren’t firing directly in the ear, it’s much more diffuse. A tripole speaker could be a bit too loud in the ear similar to the monopole depending on how close it is to the couch.
Very useful video, I'm having the Klipsch RP8000F and i'm surround sound to build a 5.1 in my small apartment and I didn't know the difference between these. Fun fact.. the James Bond scene with the bells and the shooting from the one eye villain is my reference scene to test out settings/speakers/placement... Damn this scene is so crisp and vivid and tense.. So now i know i'm on the right track.. Thanks my friend.. Liked and subscribed 😁😁
So I usually watch peoples videos at 1.5 speed yours i need to watch at 1,25 times speed so that means there is just a lot of content in what you're saying. i appreciate this. lots of content and details are great as many youtubers just talk and do not have enough useable content for my taste. keep it up just at 1.25 speed though :)
I did the same test with my Back Surround and found that I opted for direct radiating speaker as well. It’s just had more noticeable sound affects from behind. I gave up my dipole/bipole speakers for surround as well
Thanks for video. Please your recomendation - if i seat near rear wall and not have place for rear surround - better klipsch 500 bookshelfs ore 502 bipole for 5.1?
I use surround for my pc. GTFO, Eve, L4D2, if I hear where everyone is better it benefits me more. So also consider what entertainment you use it for I'd say.
Great video. However, the Arendal's can also be configured to be a front firing by removing the bridge in the back and only using one set of Speaker Terminals. This now makes them a Single tweeter Single woofer front firing speaker and ignores the side Triad woofers. In my experience this is the best config when listening to Dolby Atmos.
Thanks for that explanation I have a few questions let’s say I wanna get the rp500m for surrounds the gen 2 are more than double the price and the gen 1 are cheap would it make a huge difference to have different gens for surrounds or can I save some money and get the gen 1
Fantastic video.. in the process of building a home theater right now. This video is very informational. Thanks for outlining how six Atmos speakers would work.
Question, So i bought the 7.1 Klipch Ref26FA 7.1 Home system... Paired it with SONY STR -AN1000. Is this a true 7.1 beacuse the towers have tech two speackers in each tower? Can i add two more book shelfs to this or would that not work>? thanks love the channel
I use Klipsch RP 250S for side surrounds and RP 260 as rears in a 7.2.4 system (280 front/450 center)...you can look dead at the speakers and not know what direction the sound is coming...it sounds realistic and natural...like you're there...so I guess it depends on room and setup......
Fantastic video my brother. The table diagram was great. Please continue doing what you're doing. Suggestions: Right now I'm running 6 inceiling Polk RC 80's (2 front, 2 mid, 2 rear), Def Tech 9080 CT and HSU sub. Most times I run 5.1.2. I'm considering using my in-ceiling as Atmos and running stand speakers around my room. I want to run this through an Onkyo RZ-50. Would you recommend this receiver? What stand speakers would you suggest? Thanks in advance for your time and effort.
Nice setup and thanks for watching! I think the Onkyo will work but I can't "recommend" it because I haven't tried it personally. A quick peek at the specs, I think will work great and if you have the opportunity to get a separate power amplifier for the front sound stage (Left, center, right) you could have an even better experience, I discuss that here: th-cam.com/video/fq8of0WkjCk/w-d-xo.html The RZ-50 has pre-out connections so it would be easy to add an amplifier, I show the method here: th-cam.com/video/T5jIBWow3A8/w-d-xo.html Hopefully this helps! 😁 Enjoy!
Hi mate, excellent review and an eye opener for me. Question, how does the Reference Premiere RP-500SA II work as surrounds compared to RP-150 (or 500M).. I'm kinda leaning toward RP-500SA as my surrounds. I'm coming from the excellent Q acoustic 2020 series (served me well for 12 years). Welcome other opinions as well. Thanks in advance peeps.
I haven't tried them but I assume they would work well. There's not a lot of cabinet volume so the bass may not be super impressive but it should work as a surround.
What a fantastic video, thanks Cody! I have a follow up quest regarding the couch against the wall with surrounds left and right. If that's my setup, would you also recommend height speakers or mid left and right speakers or is going beyond a 5.1 setup not really worth it?
This is the best explanation I have EVER heard about this. Man, superbly done. Absolute professional level. Thanks, Cody.
Thank you!
I love how you described this with the little theater, great idea
Thank you!
As a 53 yr old just coming into the 21st audio century, this was a simple, direct and informative video, great job sir, cheers from east coast Canada.
I have been pondering on this subject for a long long time when i was trying to upgrade my surround speakers, so it is great to see someone finally does a review on this subject! Kudos to you!
Thanks for sharing and watching! 😁
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist what do you think of svs speakers bookshelfs and elevations all feedback would be appreciated.
@@edwardwilson9195 I think you a fool lol wasting that money on Chinese production speakers when you can shop directly from the China base svs manufacturer and spend about 700 less
Between the Amazing Spider Man #153 and Ultimate Iron Man #1 covers, to the Lego setup, to the actual advice this is one of my favorite videos on this channel.
Thank you 🙏🏾😁
Hey brother. Thank you for continually posting these informative videos. Your calm demeanor and eloquence in speech makes it really easy to comprehend such a subject that would seemingly be confusing or difficult to pay attention to due to its complexity in natural. Again, your time, knowledge and support in the community is much appreciated.
Thank you so much! I enjoy doing these types of videos and it means a lot that folks are getting stuff from them.
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist God bless you sir.
May God bless you and your family too!
I very like the way you show the information in your videos , clear and just to the point 👌👌
Thanks a lot 😊
I don’t usually make comments, but this was an excellent presentation. I first started using surround systems with the television more than 30 years ago when my “big screen” was a 27 inch crt. It added great dimension. Of course, I upgraded televisions and receivers over the years, but replaced speakers only when necessary, choosing to repair my front JBL’s several years ago. With today’s large and relatively inexpensive high resolution screens we can enjoy a more theater like experience even without a dedicated theater room, such as a family room. I have been more recently reinfected with the home theater bug and have been attempting to improve my viewing experience in my open family room environment. I have watched many videos on home theater setups in dedicated and nondedicated environments and the separate various aspects. But none on this topic! And I have been interested in learning about dipole speakers. Your video really helped. But, I would really like to know when it would be beneficial to use the dipole speakers. I don’t like to make purchases only to later realize there was a better option. Could you revisit this topic to explain when the listening environment would benefit from dipole speakers?
This is probably one of the best "take it to basics" videos I have seen in a long time. Great job! How about doing a follow up compare between in ceiling speakers and dedicated height speakers (wedged shaped speakers that are popping up all over the place). Can both be used for DTX and Atmos? What are the pros and cons. Keep up the good work!
Thanks 🙏🏾! Unfortunately my room and seating positions aren’t setup for in ceiling so I can’t do a proper video but I do have an Atmos video in mind. It’ll probably be out in a few weeks.
I just love listening to your story time calm voice. And You are as always very informative and easy to understand.
Thank you 🙏🏾
Dipole & tripole speakers are best used as surrounds IF you have only have one set of (side) surrounds and you have two rows of seating. It's always ideal to have monopole speakers though.
Thinking outside the box on good content and what’s actually important to viewers with regards to set up, we all know what’s ideal or what Dolby suggest but it’s a superb video that gives us an insight in real world what the differences could be in like with the various options on offer.
Thanks for taking the time to do this one, extremely informative and a brilliant watch!
Thank you for your comments! It’s good to know when a video is actually helpful. 😁
one of the best videos yet breaking everything down thank you!
I have bipole speakers as my surround in my atmos setup, and I absolutely love it. The surround effects are much more realistic in my opinion than when I had directional speakers.
Is your setup ear level L/R surrounds plus ear level rear surrounds plus ceiling height speakers and how far are you from them? Thanks
@@michaelcampbell9459 they are a little above ear height and 12ft from the MLP.
Interesting... I just replaced my bi-pole surrounds with mono-poles. The challenge I have is a small listening area and the bi-poles were directing the high frequencies in areas that were interfering with other speakers. For my situation mono-poles are much easier to live with.
My sound system consists of 4 SVS Ultra Bookshelf speakers (2 for the mains and 2 for the side channels), an SVS Ultra Center speaker, 6 SVS Prime Elevation speakers (4 ceiling mounted for Dolby Atmos and 2 mounted on the rear wall for the rear channels) and 2 SVS SB-3000 Subwoofers. The system is powered by a Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A8A 11 channel AVR connected to a Panamax M5400-PM Power Conditioner.
Great video.I personally use the Klipsch dipole only because I am sitting so close to my surround speakers and it helps to not blare directly in my ear. Otherwise I would probably use the direct radiating one.
I understand and agree with that approach.
Fantastic tutorial!..You are so RIGHT!! ...I had the Klipsch Dipole speakers with my Atmos setup for years and just switched to direct radiating speakers and WOW!!...unbelievable difference....I was missing so much!
Thanks Again for the tutorial ...I just became a Subscriber...Good Luck on the channel!
Thanks for watching and subscribing!! 😁
I love watching your videos. And I don’t know why I feel the need to comment every time and compliment each video, but they really are on another level compared to other home theater channels.
Thank you again for the quality content!
Wow! Thank you very much! Not just for this comment but all of them, it really means a lot knowing people enjoy the videos. Thank you 🙏🏾👊🏾😁
This is the best visual I've seen for speaker set up by far, and I've viewed a lot of content. Very nice!!!
Wow, thanks!
I just found this. Excellent presentation and really laid out in a easily understood way. I was trying to dig up some info on dipole vs bipole vs monopole and you summed it up for me in a clearly understood manner. Thanks, you have a new subscriber.
Literally the best explanation I've heard, thank you
I sold my Boston Acoustics Dipoles for Klipsch RB-51ii Bookshelf Speakers, and the directional experience was a definite improvement, thanks for the validation, Cody.
Thanks for sharing its good to hear others hear an improvement as well. 😁
What is your current setup and speaker layout, if you don't mind me asking?
I agree, this is the best explanation I have ever heard covering sound expectation versus actual experience. Really interesting and covered everything I wanted to know in a very short period time. I am knew to this hobby and currently planning a home theatre build. This is exactly the type of content I am looking for. Thank you Cody!
Thank you for the kind words!!!
Wow thats a very helpful video. Ive always liked my bipole/dipoles, but i dont use them in my atmos system. Its good to know the monopole really is better for atmos. Thanks for doing and sharing this experiment, along with your other videos!
Also, block demonstration was a good idea when you explained how heights/phantom speakers work in atmos.
I’m happy to was helpful and easy to understand. 😁
Good video. I went with bipole speakers for my rear speakers in my 5.1.4 setup. For two reasons: rear speakers are only 1 foot behind the listening position and 1 foot above. So a more dispersed sound is better cause of the close proximity. Also, I got a cheap pair on sale. Sounds very good. I haven't heard any other speakers. No idea how others would sound in my room
Im glad you got a great deal, I like getting deals myself. 😁 As long as you’re happy with your setup, that’s really what my matters.
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist for close proximity, bipole or dipole speakers are better. Imo, they were designed for that application and because back in the day there was "only" 5.1 sound formats. If you can setup a 7.1 with perfect angles and distances, I wouldn't choose a dipole/bipole design but the reality is that most of us aren't fortunate enough to have a space with a perfect layout and for that, these speakers are a very good choice. I use bipole speakers in my 5.2 setup as well since my listening position is right up against the back wall.
This was great. Thanks for the information. I wanted to add side surrounds and you help me make my decision.
Happy to help! 😁
Dolby and DTS do not recommend true dipole surround speakers for their immersive sound formats, as they smear the sound stage too much. If you are sitting about four feet or less from your base layer surrounds, then bipole surrounds are recommended to lessen hot spotting where you get too direct a point of sound firing toward your ears. If you happen to have a wider and/or longer room, then traditional monopole speakers are potentially the better choice. Your speakers should be timbre matched as closely as possible around the room for a more seamless experience.
agreed, my media room is 6*3 m and direct speakers are too easy to localize with no phantom sound while panning, so I went with rp502 for sides (1,5 m away) and 402 for rears(1,2m away). I'm in a bubble this way, opposed to having rp160m before, which made panning on a side like hearing three speakers consecutively, vs making a straight line with bipoles. Also, sides are a bit in front of a two seat recliner, as I really feel the influence of person next to me blocking the sound path
Best explanation Ever … 👍. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
An excellent video, THANK YOU! I recently replaced my bi-pole surrounds with mono-poles. When I started with 5.1, the bi-poles were fantastic. My system expanded to 7.2.4 and I found the high frequencies from the side bi-poles were directed towards areas I didn't want the sound to go. Switching to mono-poles for the sides made a great improvement!
My sound system consists of 4 SVS Ultra Bookshelf speakers (2 for the mains and 2 for the side channels), an SVS Ultra Center speaker, 6 SVS Prime Elevation speakers (4 ceiling mounted for Dolby Atmos and 2 mounted on the rear wall for the rear channels) and 2 SVS SB-3000 Subwoofers. The system is powered by a Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A8A 11 channel AVR connected to a Panamax M5400-PM Power Conditioner.
Nice system!!! 👍🏾👍🏾😁
i have the surround speakers they are absolutely amazing great sound
Awesome video and loved that you pointed out specific scenes
Thanks
Very clearly explained thank you, time to put my old dipole speakers up for sale!
Great content; you are an excellent presenter.
The BARE MINIMUM layout for adequate immersive surround is 5.1.4 (with hopefully more than one subwoofer to help even out the frequency response in the room). Yes, budget receivers also do 5.1.2, but you lose quite a bit of object panning across the ceiling with only two overhead speakers.
Agreed
Great video. My personal preference is to hear sound but not know where it's coming from, so I went with klipsch rp-250s and I love them!!
Nice 😊
I Have those RP-250S as rears, they sound fantastic.
Amazing explanation. I assumed bipolar speakers would be good for surrounds till I watched this video. You’ve save me a lot of $$ and improved surround sound quality.
I’m happy to help!
Excellent video. It's good to get informed by these testing setup type videos before I buy something and regret it. I know that sounds bad, but I'm at the beginning of my HT journey. Thanks Cody.
Happy to help! Thanks for watching 😁
Thank you for the video, i was going to upgrade my atmos speakers and was thinking about getting a set of those surround speakers but now i know to keep the bookshelf speakers
Glad I could help 🙂
I'm subscribing your channel right now. Man.. you just helped me a lot.
Thanks for the sub!
great vid.
it would be great if you did a similar vid for upfiring atmos speaks as well
Interesting insight , I never picked up those sounds , My attention was always on the thud of the bullets on the bulletproof screen !!
Very nicely explained! I praise for a great improvisation with Mr. Rabbit, as an illustrative listener of the audio system 🤗👍🏼😁
Many thanks! 😊
I actually have both Klipsch Speaker and was wondering which one goes where ... Thanks! I can now tell Great Video 🌟👍🌟👍
Thanks for watching!
I have the arendal 1723s surrounds.. I belive you can cut off the tripole correct?
great video, good info, I have all those types of speakers in my setup now, looking to add atmos enabled later. I'll look to see if you have recommendations for atmos.
Very informative and I can't wait to try out this movie on Prime. They have Atmos movies and this is one of them. Never new the difference of a di-pole and bi-pole until your video. Thanks!!!!!!
Thanks for watching!
I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL!
Thank you 🙏🏾
I'm still using Klipsh THX 5000 surround speaker for the left n right surround because my listening position is so close (4.5 feet) center listening position to left and to the right!..
Man really enjoy your channel..... Clear explanation 👍
Thank you 🙏🏾
Dipole/Bipole diffused surround speakers belong in the 90's where they were a requirement for THX decolleration specs. For modern object based multichannel, you want direct firying speakers, better those that can be tilted towards the MLP. For me, Focal Dome Flax works best. I have 6 of them for surround, top front and back. Ny fronts are Focal Aria 906 and CC900 center. I'm now considering to get two additional dome flax for back surround.
Thanks for watching!
Truly the best surround explanation video
Thank you! 👍🏾
Great video! One note though. The arendal speaker you tested can function like a direct radiating speaker or triaxial speaker depending on whether you remove the 2 plates connecting the front and side drivers on the back. It should function more like a traditional bookshelf in that mode.
Thanks for sharing!
I'm in the process of buying, very helpful
I've been looking for this explanation and understanding of what surround speakers I should get. Thank you.
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Nice job bro! 😎👍
Thanks 👍🏾
Thank for the info, It really helped with my speaker decision
Happy to help!
The Legos were great.
I've heard this same information before. Nice to get your impressions after testing
Thanks! I didn’t mention this in the video but I did all my testing and wrote my conclusions before looking into the Dolby documentation. I’m always trying to optimize my system so I like to do various test where possible then research facts and community opinion. It does make me happy that my listening results match Dolby recommendations for audio mixers but really I wanted to find what works best. 😁
Great video !! I’m using def tech sr 9080 bipolar for surround back and side .. I would like to replace with monopole ones .. and would like to place the sr9080 as 4 height speakers.. which surround u recommend to replace with ? Does it be timber matched one ? Fronts are def tech bp9080x and center is paradigm prestige 55c …
Thank you for the very informative video. Also love your demeanor very easy to listen to. Thanks for the great video.
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I recently was able to lengthen my soundstage, and was using a pair of RP402’s for rear surrounds to make the rear sound larger than it was. I had RP160M’s as my side surrounds. Once I rotated my room to take advantage of the length, the RP160M’s were moved to rear surround duty, and the RP402’s became my side surrounds. Their bipole design helped a lot with the length of the room. Now, my side surrounds have been upgraded to the bigger RP502’s, and my rear surrounds match my front L/R being RP600M’s. I’ve noticed a big difference.
Thanks for sharing
Any difference RP402s vs RP502s ?
I have 402ses and think about changing to bigger ones.
I haven’t heard the 502s but I assume a bit better bass performance and possibly a bigger sound overall.
Great video, really enjoyed it. Rock on, Cody.
Thank you 🙏🏾
Thanks. Finally with your review I can decide to go monopole rather than bipolar for the surround for Atmos!
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This is a great and helpful video. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I use 2 of the 402s as my rear surround as I don't have much choice. They make the perfect solution when your couch is up against a wall and there is no room behind you for rear speakers. In that case, the 402's out to the side of you on the wall right behind you, make a good choice. It was either that or install in-wall speakers at the rear as there is no other way to get something behind you when you are up against the wall.
Many thanks for this great info. Not often discussed.
Glad it was helpful!
I’ve had the 1723S surrounds for a couple of years now and I’ve been pushing off testing them in monopole mode and comparing it to triaxial mode. Now, I think I’m going to put them in monopole mode and run with it a bit next time I have time to run a new calibration. Great video.
Thanks! Let me know what you find once your is testing is complete. 😁
what were ur findings?
I like how you explained it. It made more sense to me now. I love how you use the big lego blocks. Thank you for making this video. New subscriber here.
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That was a brilliant use of Mega Blocks!
I have a question. Is the overall experience less immersive when you can pinpoint which speaker the sound is coming from? Does it take your attention off the screen? I ask this because I remember my first 5.1 experience. It was The Lion King. I was in the theater, and a bird or something made a noise beside me, and I turned my head to look, and I was taken out of the film experience.
Cody, i do have a question which i think most of your viewers would be interested in, which is that most of us use our living room to double as our home theater space and typically we have couches against the wall, with the side surrounds right next to the sofa. Would the tripole speakers be better in this instance?
No. Definitely go with a standard monopole speaker. You will have better imaging.
This is a really good question! So for the person that is sitting in the center a monopole is really good, as @double T said. But for those sitting on either end of the couch, nearest the speaker, a bipole is probably better since the drivers aren’t firing directly in the ear, it’s much more diffuse. A tripole speaker could be a bit too loud in the ear similar to the monopole depending on how close it is to the couch.
Great video man I really enjoyed it!
Thanks for watching! It’s good to hear from you. Keep up the IG post! 😁😁
Very useful video, I'm having the Klipsch RP8000F and i'm surround sound to build a 5.1 in my small apartment and I didn't know the difference between these.
Fun fact.. the James Bond scene with the bells and the shooting from the one eye villain is my reference scene to test out settings/speakers/placement...
Damn this scene is so crisp and vivid and tense.. So now i know i'm on the right track.. Thanks my friend.. Liked and subscribed 😁😁
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So I usually watch peoples videos at 1.5 speed yours i need to watch at 1,25 times speed so that means there is just a lot of content in what you're saying. i appreciate this. lots of content and details are great as many youtubers just talk and do not have enough useable content for my taste. keep it up just at 1.25 speed though :)
Thank you 🙏🏾! That means a lot! I strive to make sure the videos are actually informative. 😁
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist Yup just turned on the BELL TOO also you the Elan guy and Andrew Robinson have my bell turned on. Keep up the good stuff!
What would you see as a good use case for the dipoles?
Excellente! Very informative and detailed. Awesome vid my man. 👏🏾
Thanks
I did the same test with my Back Surround and found that I opted for direct radiating speaker as well. It’s just had more noticeable sound affects from behind. I gave up my dipole/bipole speakers for surround as well
Thanks for sharing!
This was very informative and now I know what speaker I will get for my surround channels.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this information! Very well explained
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Thank you for the info. In case of Arendal which direct radiating speaker should I use for side surrounds?
The bookshelves either 1961, 1723S, or 1723.
Love the mock up, dude!
😁 thanks 🙏🏾
Thx bro..greatest video on atmos explained.
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Thanks for video. Please your recomendation - if i seat near rear wall and not have place for rear surround - better klipsch 500 bookshelfs ore 502 bipole for 5.1?
Enjoy your videos. As for me and my setup, I prefer the more diffuse sound that the dipole/bipole speakers provide.
Enjoying the diffuse sound makes sense. You don’t want to know where the speakers are! Thanks for sharing! 😁
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist Thanks for the great content 👍
Best explanation ever. Thank you man. You mad my mind clear 👍
Happy to help! 🙂
Thx Bro great video👍🏾
Small room have the 5. 1 should i get a pair of back speakers or do i have enough. Thanks for sharing.
If your seat is against the wall rears probably aren’t worth it. That’s my opinion anyway. 😁
Very nice informative video. Have the direct one, was debating on the other di pole but I'll stick with what I have. Thanks
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I use surround for my pc. GTFO, Eve, L4D2, if I hear where everyone is better it benefits me more.
So also consider what entertainment you use it for I'd say.
Nice One! Good demo and god advice I've taken onboard Thanks.... UK
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@@HomeTheaterHobbyist You're welcome UK
Just for the recreation of the room it is worth watching the video, thank you very much.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video. However, the Arendal's can also be configured to be a front firing by removing the bridge in the back and only using one set of Speaker Terminals. This now makes them a Single tweeter Single woofer front firing speaker and ignores the side Triad woofers. In my experience this is the best config when listening to Dolby Atmos.
Thanks for sharing! 😁
Depends on the room layout the direct might not work in narrow spacing
great video i can’t believe i just found your channel !
your assessment of good better best is on the money
Thank you! 🙏🏾
Thanks for that explanation I have a few questions let’s say I wanna get the rp500m for surrounds the gen 2 are more than double the price and the gen 1 are cheap would it make a huge difference to have different gens for surrounds or can I save some money and get the gen 1
Fantastic video.. in the process of building a home theater right now. This video is very informational. Thanks for outlining how six Atmos speakers would work.
Happy to help
Excellent video. Thanks.
Question, So i bought the 7.1 Klipch Ref26FA 7.1 Home system... Paired it with SONY STR -AN1000. Is this a true 7.1 beacuse the towers have tech two speackers in each tower? Can i add two more book shelfs to this or would that not work>? thanks love the channel
You're the man for this review
Thanks 🙏🏾
super helpfull, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I use Klipsch RP 250S for side surrounds and RP 260 as rears in a 7.2.4 system (280 front/450 center)...you can look dead at the speakers and not know what direction the sound is coming...it sounds realistic and natural...like you're there...so I guess it depends on room and setup......
You're happy with your setup and that is what ultimately matters!💪🏾 Thanks for commenting! 😁
Fantastic video my brother. The table diagram was great. Please continue doing what you're doing.
Suggestions:
Right now I'm running 6 inceiling Polk RC 80's (2 front, 2 mid, 2 rear), Def Tech 9080 CT and HSU sub. Most times I run 5.1.2. I'm considering using my in-ceiling as Atmos and running stand speakers around my room. I want to run this through an Onkyo RZ-50. Would you recommend this receiver? What stand speakers would you suggest? Thanks in advance for your time and effort.
Nice setup and thanks for watching! I think the Onkyo will work but I can't "recommend" it because I haven't tried it personally. A quick peek at the specs, I think will work great and if you have the opportunity to get a separate power amplifier for the front sound stage (Left, center, right) you could have an even better experience, I discuss that here: th-cam.com/video/fq8of0WkjCk/w-d-xo.html
The RZ-50 has pre-out connections so it would be easy to add an amplifier, I show the method here: th-cam.com/video/T5jIBWow3A8/w-d-xo.html
Hopefully this helps! 😁 Enjoy!
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist you are a blessing my brother. Thanks.
Hi mate, excellent review and an eye opener for me. Question, how does the Reference Premiere RP-500SA II work as surrounds compared to RP-150 (or 500M).. I'm kinda leaning toward RP-500SA as my surrounds. I'm coming from the excellent Q acoustic 2020 series (served me well for 12 years). Welcome other opinions as well. Thanks in advance peeps.
I haven't tried them but I assume they would work well. There's not a lot of cabinet volume so the bass may not be super impressive but it should work as a surround.
What a fantastic video, thanks Cody! I have a follow up quest regarding the couch against the wall with surrounds left and right. If that's my setup, would you also recommend height speakers or mid left and right speakers or is going beyond a 5.1 setup not really worth it?
Great question, for that type of setup I think height speakers would probably be the most impactful. 😁