Finally! Short, to the point. Fact based, objective measurement, subjective useful opinion. Loved the interactive see-if-you-see part. This review is perfect and I very rarely say that. Please do bookshelf rear atmos speakers reviews and tests for 5.1.4 setup in the same manner. Liked & subscribed!
Thank u. I live in an apartment so I definitely can’t do in ceiling. I’ve tried up firing but it’s not great either. So I’m moving onto elevation. I won’t worry about hiding the wires
Honestly, your my favorite reviewer on the Tubes. Keep it up. I love the editing and honest reviews. Thank you for taking your time in your comparisons, presentations and reviews.
I am really happy you made this video. You can hear the difference of the speakers through this video. I can hear the ceiling speakers and SVS height speakers have higher frequency range. The atmos enabled bounce sounding speakers have a lower frequency range. They tend to sound a little weaker with less Bass. I would choose ceiling speakers or SVS height elevation speakers over the atmos enabled. But it is nice to hear that Atmos enabled speakers work fine as an option
Refer to AVSForum. UpFiring Atmos speakers._____ forum members posted are setting atmos speakers +6DB over the AVR Auto Eq calibration values. As well many members have great results with Atmos crossover frequency of 100 or 120 HZ. I myself as well with my Klipsch RP500SA's. Don't pass judgement on Atmos Enabled speakers until one tries 100 HZ cutoff and +6 DB over value from auto eq
I was all set to comment about on ceiling bookshelf speakers but You covered them. I have a beam right overhead with two SVS Prime Satellites mounted for a 5.2.2. Loving the videos.
Seek and Yeee shall find. The exact topics you went over in your video is what I've been trying to figure out for ages...Thanks for doing the heavy lifting!
I've just found this, finally, a decent comparison of the 3 Atmos speaker types. You've helped me make a decision on my Atmos speaker configuration, thanks heaps for posting this video.
Thank for your Awsome Advice on the different Atmos Speaker set ups. My Wife my not like Holes drilled in our Ceiling lol . My best bet is to place Atmos Speakers on top of my main Speakers. Thank You for your Advice and Expertise
You do Comparisons right, normally I would have to watch several videos to get this much information. this is only the 2nd video I’m watching on this matter and I already know what route I’m going. (Elevation in case anyone was wondering) So thumbs up my man just for that I’m playing this video again and watching all ads when it reloads. If there are any ads I didn’t remember seeing any.
I've heard in ceiling speakers typically don't have the same sounds quality as elevation speakers in a cabinet. Since you have both, I'm curious how you would compare the two. This was a great informative video! Your video looks great on TV and phone. Thanks!
Great comparison man! As a person who has been researching in order to make a decision on a new home theatre, your videos have been very helpful! Great content, keep it up, I'm looking forward to what you'll be sharing with us in 2019!
One of the things to consider is that with the elevation speakers you get physically more space that atmos can “place” objects around you, therefore representing what the artist(s) intended better
@@himynameisryan my problem with it is that sound bouncing isn’t very convincing. Content is mastered using discrete speakers, not Atmos enabled ones. Granted it still is better than nothing- but precise placement and object panning effects are a lot more effective (and convincing) with discrete speakers
Hooked my 4 prime elevation speakers yesterday and got rid of my atmos modules haven't really fine tuned them yet but I can definitely tell the difference
@@ThaVillaMan it took a about 2 hours to run the wires hook em up and hang them tuned up perfect Saturday and what impressed me the most was what I never noticed before like the music that was playing in H shop after the race scene in ready player 1 never heard prince music or the the temptations in the modules wow impressive
Great comparison! 👍 I have the Martin Logan ICs, so I was pretty excited to see this comparison. This helped to reassure my thoughts and feelings from my own experience. It also eliminates any buyer's remorse I may have had from spending a little extra on them compared to up-firing or elevated...and also buying additional speakers, as I plan on adding two more ICs in the near future. Thanks!!!
Just subscribed to the channel and really enjoy the content that I have seen so far. I am in the middle of converting my garage into a dedicated home theater room and this video really shed some light on atmos speaker types for me. Keep up the great content on the channel. There are a lot of channels providing HT content, but very few with the professionalism as yours. Job well done. Thanks again.
I am actually planning to mount bookshelf speakers to my ceiling this weekend, so nice to hear that that is a thing. Hopefully going 5.2.1 will be a nice change over my current 7.1.
Thank you for the video. I was using book shelf klipsch speakers are my height speakers and goes on top of my towers. They sounded ok but wasn’t impressed. I went out a couple days ago and bought the klipsh r-41-sa at bestbuy since they were on sale for $279. They did sound a little better but wasn’t blown away. Now that I saw your video I think I’m gonna mount them on the wall. I have a center dual 8 inch, 2 towers with dual 8 inch 2 surround bookshelf 8 inch, 12 inch sub and now the height speakers. All my speakers and sub are klipsch reference using a Denon 3400 receiver. Can’t wait to hear the difference.
Amazing job. I have a shoirter ceiling in my basement where my second HT is at. Making holes in the ceiling or running wires up the wall aint easy. So I will make use of the upfiring speakers as its the best option I have.
@@ThaVillaMan Really to do a representative comparison you need to set all 3 speakers to same rolloff frequency. I know the elevation speakers are full spectrum so analysing comparative can get confusing. On your video I tried to focus on the missles sound overhead. Which the upfiring represented well. But from my experience PLACEMENT of Upfiring speakers is extremely important. Location and distance from ceiling. Uping DB of upfiring is essential for exquisite tuning. The ear results are not the same as microphone detection thru AVR.
Larry, you are correct on the microphone not totally representing what the ears perceive, but that’s why I gave my personal experience also. I don’t think limiting the frequencies of the in-ceiling or up-firing speakers would be an accurate comparison because they both would be crippled and that wouldn’t really represent reality. Either way, I appreciate your perspective, thanks!
Thanks for the video I made the mistake of ordering klipsch 50 watt rms dolby atmos speakers I'm returning those today lol. I have the denon x4500h which is way overpowered for those. I'm going to order the SVS Primes which have a 150 rms rating. Thanks for the help.
Just bought some Klipsch atmos speakers which I’m going to wall mount and definitely not on top of my speakers, this vid definitely confirmed that, I would have liked to roof mount some ceiling speakers, but the wife acceptance factor wasn’t good, so I bought 4 of them for high on the walls
LIKE YOUR VIDEO. i HAVE HAD atmos RECEIVER since 2015; had bought UP-FIRING speakers, but did not really hear sound on ceiling per se. Then put those speakers on sides of room, and NOW have those speakers on celing, facing "down". I did like hearing the dinosaur (better) on roof in JURASSIC WORLD (right upper speaker) and men running on roofs (left speaker), better sounding when on side walls, as speakers were separated further apart, BUT can still hear "ceiling" sounds though, even though speakers closer together now and more in center of room-ceiling. I put them almost directly above the seats/above "my head". BUT I LOVE ATMOS/DTS:X. Hearing sounds like helicopters going from left to right above your head, IS GREAT! Just came across your video tonight. Thanks again, keep up great informative videos. HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Just installed 4 in ceiling speakers last night so now I'm running 5.2.4..You can definitely hear a difference with overhead speakers. Love it so far. If you do this project, prepare to get dirty lol
hi there...I'm so late joining this conversation but I hope to get some advice. I can't use in ceiling speakers for my 5.1.4 setup so I'm thinking of using 4 bookshelf speakers -2 mounted at the front up on the wall just under the ceiling and 2 at the back-my sofa is in the middle of the room. The Prime elevation would be nice because they are already angled but I wonder if just about any other speaker would work too...for best results, should these speakers be mounted aligned with the main L and R speakers at the front and in line at the back too? or should I place them in the corners? And for calibration I would call them Height or top? so many options . I have a Denon AVR-X4400. Thanks so much!
I've yet to transition to Atmos speakers. Thank you for this video. Very informed and easy to understand. Seems like Ready Player one is the gold standard for demos now. I have a slanted ceiling and atmos doesn't cater too well for that experience. I won't spend money on upfiring ones after your review. Whatever happened to DTS X?
Excellent info... I have the Andrew jones 5.1 without atmos and will be looking into adding some atmos speakers... this video will definitely help me with my decision process.
I have Boston speakers . Is it possible to use surround speakers as height /mounted Dolby surround speakers ? I am not sure whether to buy inceiling or mount the small speakers on the wall. I am using a 7.2 channel Yamaha avr . Please advise before I make a mistake and regret it. Take care .
I laughed so hard when you said about not going to listen to a 7.1.4 or 5.1.4 "just don't do that, just don't", hahaha. Going to have to convince the mrs that we need 4 dolby atmos speakers now.....
Great Video, glad I found your channel. I've been playing with in or on-ceiling ideas and testing and I think I'm going with elevation speakers after listening to some of the SVS products.
Hi man and i have small room 13 m2 ( 4.1m x 3.1 m ) and i thinking to upgrade my old 7.1 config for Atmos and is there any sens to add 4 hight speakers or leave just 2 as 7.1.2 system ? will feel the difference ? or rather lack of those second paar ?
If you want sound to come from a point source, place speaker at that point. Did you leave the inceiling speakers open to the ceiling void; Or did you install speaker hoods/box-in the rear of the void behind the speakers?
You have shown the svs prime elevation only as height speaker. But they can also be placed in the ceiling. Can you make a review with preme evevation sound quality and atmos effect comparing to klipsch rp500 sa ii?
Great video. I have a question about the Klipsch R-625FA and the pioneer Elite SP-EFS73 upfiring speakers. I have now the LG C9 hooked up to the Onkyo TX-NR696 Receiver and it is nice. I just need speakers and speakers for dolby atmos. Now Im struggling between which one to pick for that dolby atmos experience. Either the Klipsch or the Pioneer up firing. Now that I saw your video I'm thinking of getting the Klipsch RP-140SA elevation speakers and tower Klipsch speakers. thanks in advance for any information.
@@ThaVillaMan word, I bought SONY SSCSE, enabled speakers, can I put them directly ontop of the sofa, pointing downwards? (I want to use then as, IN CEILING, speakers for dolby atmos) I already bought them on black friday as a deal and I'm not trying to buy other speakers
Are you OK with 2 ceiling speakers for Dolby Atmos or is there a big difference with 4? You thoughts on Martin Logan Helos ? And if 4 speakers is that much better than 2 is that require certain movies that produce additional sounds with 4? Is the 2 better quality speakers (martin Logan) still better than using 4 less expensive speakers? thx in advance
Hey, I bought SONY SSCSE, enabled speakers, can I put them directly ontop of the sofa, pointing downwards? (I want to use then as, IN CEILING, speakers for dolby atmos) I already bought them on black friday as a deal and I'm not trying to buy other speakers
Villaman i just bought a Denon 3700 with 5.1 Polk Signature Series. Regarding Dolby Atmos i was thinking about 4x Elacs A4.2 Dolby Enabled Speakers because my ceiling is concrete and i cant use in ceiling. What do you think about them?
Hi. I am looking for information on speaker placement just for Atmos. I am creating a 7.2.4 system. I will be using a elevation speakers. Should they go in the front and rear of the room or centered around the listening area?
The in ceiling speakers are the ones I picked ( just dumb luck) it’s just to hard to really tell on TH-cam. But in ceiling speakers will always sound better. But that’s just my opinion. Hey have a great New Year!!!
I have a 2 story great room that's open to the kitchen (19ft by 17ft by 15ft tall). What's your recommendation for atmos? I don't think I should install speakers in the ceiling or very high on the wall because it's not going to work up there? Lol, no idea.
hi Villa_Man I have a 16 x 16 living room. On the left side of my TV is a double sliding door that leads to the back yard, on the right of my TV is an open wall that joins the living to the kitchen. My ceilings are 9 feet high. I will be ordering a set of Ash SVS Prime Pinnacle floor standing speakers for the front (left, right), and a Prime Ultra for the Center channel. I will also order two sb2000 subs. I would like to install in-wall speakers for the rear surrounds, as well as 4 in-ceilings for the dolby atmos. Would you recommend I install the EM-IC by Martin Logan, or the Helos for in-ceiling? Also, what in-ceiling speakers would you recommend I install? any help would be greatly appreciated!
I know I'm 4 years late, but great video. And if you want to really laugh, although I have a 7.1 setup right now, I just discovered Atmos in the past couple of weeks. I've got a 8-10 year old Yamaha 7.1 receiver that I discovered has a small issue. I figured, hey Black Friday sales are coming up so let me check out the deals. I start looking and immediately go 'What the hell is 11.2?' Anyway, here I am looking for advice/tips/tricks as to how to move up to the next sound space level.
This is the video I was looking for. Explaining atmos between in ceiling, elevation and upfiring. Great job man!
Glad I could help!
Thank you for giving us a REAL understanding of how this works without a bunch of fanfare and not trying to sell us anything. You da Tha Villa=man!
You know what? This video WAS awesome! Thanks for making it--it quickly answered all my questions about up/height/in-ceiling speakers.
Finally! Short, to the point. Fact based, objective measurement, subjective useful opinion. Loved the interactive see-if-you-see part. This review is perfect and I very rarely say that. Please do bookshelf rear atmos speakers reviews and tests for 5.1.4 setup in the same manner. Liked & subscribed!
Thank u. I live in an apartment so I definitely can’t do in ceiling. I’ve tried up firing but it’s not great either. So I’m moving onto elevation. I won’t worry about hiding the wires
Very concise video! Love your channel and content. Keep up the great work. Your comment on "Why haven't I heard of this guy before" made me laugh. LOL
Haha thanks Youthman. Glad you liked it!
Hey these videos are awesome! Why haven't I heard of this guy before?
Hahahaha nicely done. Why thank you... Thank you very much.
@@ThaVillaMan what tv is that behind you
An LG B6 OLED
@@ThaVillaMan oh ok ,right on!
Loudness should be in SPL not dB bode plot
I've been having a hard time finding comparisons like this online. Your video was super helpful! 👍
Still one of the better explained and demo videos out there. Btw, where you been dude?
Thanks! It’s been a crazy few months. Lots of demands on my time, so I’m doing my best to prioritize.
Honestly, your my favorite reviewer on the Tubes. Keep it up. I love the editing and honest reviews. Thank you for taking your time in your comparisons, presentations and reviews.
I’m really glad to hear that. I’m happy you enjoy watching my videos. I’m always trying to get better with each one
@@ThaVillaMan Well, you're on a roll!! Especially with that crisp new camera! Keep it up!! I can't wait to see what else you bring.
I am really happy you made this video. You can hear the difference of the speakers through this video. I can hear the ceiling speakers and SVS height speakers have higher frequency range.
The atmos enabled bounce sounding speakers have a lower frequency range. They tend to sound a little weaker with less Bass.
I would choose ceiling speakers or SVS height elevation speakers over the atmos enabled.
But it is nice to hear that Atmos enabled speakers work fine as an option
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Ask Youthman what his cross over frequency is for the upFiring speakers.
Refer to AVSForum. UpFiring Atmos speakers._____ forum members posted are setting atmos speakers +6DB over the AVR Auto Eq calibration values.
As well many members have great results with Atmos crossover frequency of 100 or 120 HZ. I myself as well with my Klipsch RP500SA's. Don't pass judgement on Atmos Enabled speakers until one tries 100 HZ cutoff and +6 DB over value from auto eq
thank you, very informative. Think I'll go with the Dali Alteco c-1, as I don't want to drill holes in my walls either. Take care.
I was all set to comment about on ceiling bookshelf speakers but You covered them. I have a beam right overhead with two SVS Prime Satellites mounted for a 5.2.2. Loving the videos.
Seek and Yeee shall find. The exact topics you went over in your video is what I've been trying to figure out for ages...Thanks for doing the heavy lifting!
I've just found this, finally, a decent comparison of the 3 Atmos speaker types. You've helped me make a decision on my Atmos speaker configuration, thanks heaps for posting this video.
First time listening. Wanted to support and leave a comment. Keep it up
one of the first channels I have seen to work in HDR - nice one for taking that on
Thanks! It’s had its challenges but I think it’s worth it
@@ThaVillaMan it looks mega on my phone s9+ what video editing software are you using to work in hdr if you dont mind me asking?? thanks
Thanks! I use Final Cut Pro
@@ThaVillaMan thanks recording into an atomos?
I do, but you can record on SD too. I record in HLG picture profile (A7III), and FCPX has an HLG workflow which is pretty intuitive
Video is awesome.
Your voice....you are blessed with that voice bro.
Warm wishes from India to my brother.
Haha thanks!
Love those ML tweeters
Thank for your Awsome Advice on the different Atmos Speaker set ups. My Wife my not like Holes drilled in our Ceiling lol . My best bet is to place Atmos Speakers on top of my main Speakers. Thank You for your Advice and Expertise
I like how you say it's HDR and it's actually HDR. I constantly see videos labeled as HDR when they are clearly not.
Great video!
Thanks! Yea, I hate those misleading videos. Wouldn’t want to add to them!
You do Comparisons right, normally I would have to watch several videos to get this much information. this is only the 2nd video I’m watching on this matter and I already know what route I’m going. (Elevation in case anyone was wondering) So thumbs up my man just for that I’m playing this video again and watching all ads when it reloads. If there are any ads I didn’t remember seeing any.
Like the new 4k camera!! I am also using Prime Elevations overhead and love it.
Right? It makes everything so much better.
Nice! I’m not surprised to hear that though... the primes are definitely a good choice.
Thanks so much for your guidance. Merry Christmas 2023.😊
I've heard in ceiling speakers typically don't have the same sounds quality as elevation speakers in a cabinet. Since you have both, I'm curious how you would compare the two.
This was a great informative video! Your video looks great on TV and phone. Thanks!
Great comparison man! As a person who has been researching in order to make a decision on a new home theatre, your videos have been very helpful! Great content, keep it up, I'm looking forward to what you'll be sharing with us in 2019!
Definitely. Glad I can help!
Awesome job as always brother! I'm definitely moving up to atmos from a 7.2 set up and the video is definitely helpful!
Definitely great insight into wanting in ceiling speakers instead
Once again u have the perfect video i was looking for
Glad I could help!
Thank you very much for a short and simple opinion
One of the things to consider is that with the elevation speakers you get physically more space that atmos can “place” objects around you, therefore representing what the artist(s) intended better
No sir. I can definitively say that is not how it is in practice
@@ThaVillaMan I mean literally Atmos engineers agree with me
In fact there’s a great video by TechnoDad on TH-cam that discusses it
@@himynameisryan my problem with it is that sound bouncing isn’t very convincing. Content is mastered using discrete speakers, not Atmos enabled ones. Granted it still is better than nothing- but precise placement and object panning effects are a lot more effective (and convincing) with discrete speakers
@@ThaVillaMan I’m not speaking about bouncing speaker
I’m talking about elevation speakers
I agree bounced speakers really aren’t it
Oh ok. We’re good then! 😅
I have installed 4 Klipsch R51m's and they sound great.
Thanks for the review, very well explained and conclusion. 👍👍👍
Great, informative video. Thanks!
Hooked my 4 prime elevation speakers yesterday and got rid of my atmos modules haven't really fine tuned them yet but I can definitely tell the difference
Niiiiice. I love it! How long did it take?
@@ThaVillaMan it took a about 2 hours to run the wires hook em up and hang them tuned up perfect Saturday and what impressed me the most was what I never noticed before like the music that was playing in H shop after the race scene in ready player 1 never heard prince music or the the temptations in the modules wow impressive
thanks a lot man ,I was looking for a video like that
fantastic comparison!! very informative.
Great comparison! 👍
I have the Martin Logan ICs, so I was pretty excited to see this comparison. This helped to reassure my thoughts and feelings from my own experience. It also eliminates any buyer's remorse I may have had from spending a little extra on them compared to up-firing or elevated...and also buying additional speakers, as I plan on adding two more ICs in the near future.
Thanks!!!
Thanks! The MLs are great because they can go so low. They’re a great choice.
4 speakers overhead really make great sound even better
Thanks man... It was a great video
Just subscribed to the channel and really enjoy the content that I have seen so far. I am in the middle of converting my garage into a dedicated home theater room and this video really shed some light on atmos speaker types for me. Keep up the great content on the channel. There are a lot of channels providing HT content, but very few with the professionalism as yours. Job well done. Thanks again.
Awesome. Glad I could help!
I am actually planning to mount bookshelf speakers to my ceiling this weekend, so nice to hear that that is a thing. Hopefully going 5.2.1 will be a nice change over my current 7.1.
Thank you for the video. I was using book shelf klipsch speakers are my height speakers and goes on top of my towers. They sounded ok but wasn’t impressed. I went out a couple days ago and bought the klipsh r-41-sa at bestbuy since they were on sale for $279. They did sound a little better but wasn’t blown away. Now that I saw your video I think I’m gonna mount them on the wall. I have a center dual 8 inch, 2 towers with dual 8 inch 2 surround bookshelf 8 inch, 12 inch sub and now the height speakers. All my speakers and sub are klipsch reference using a Denon 3400 receiver. Can’t wait to hear the difference.
Glad I could help... I bet you’ll love it!
Amazing job. I have a shoirter ceiling in my basement where my second HT is at. Making holes in the ceiling or running wires up the wall aint easy. So I will make use of the upfiring speakers as its the best option I have.
Hello I plan on using 7.1 Atmos Pioneer Front and Back enabled Center Sub and 2 Ceiling Speakers best of both worlds
Great video. I will agree that in ceiling is the best way to go!
Glad you liked it. The other 2 are great options for those who can’t though!
@@ThaVillaMan Really to do a representative comparison you need to set all 3 speakers to same rolloff frequency. I know the elevation speakers are full spectrum so analysing comparative can get confusing. On your video I tried to focus on the missles sound overhead. Which the upfiring represented well. But from my experience PLACEMENT of Upfiring speakers is extremely important. Location and distance from ceiling. Uping DB of upfiring is essential for exquisite tuning. The ear results are not the same as microphone detection thru AVR.
Larry, you are correct on the microphone not totally representing what the ears perceive, but that’s why I gave my personal experience also.
I don’t think limiting the frequencies of the in-ceiling or up-firing speakers would be an accurate comparison because they both would be crippled and that wouldn’t really represent reality. Either way, I appreciate your perspective, thanks!
SVS Ceiling mounted is the best option if you don't want to cut up your roof
In Ceiling is best Period. #Fact
Closely followed by elevation speakers. Wasn't too keen on the upfiring ones.
Thanks. I needed that. Excellent explaining.
Thanks for the video I made the mistake of ordering klipsch 50 watt rms dolby atmos speakers I'm returning those today lol. I have the denon x4500h which is way overpowered for those. I'm going to order the SVS Primes which have a 150 rms rating. Thanks for the help.
I want to hear more from this guy. Sub earned! Great video! I am just before buying an 5.1.2 system and this video really helped me a lot!
Cheers!
These comment are obvious my man. Put in the time and good things will happen. Don't play with the bot comments
Whats your thoughts on using two elevation speakers on the front wall for Atmos?
LMAO at that ending. You have an awesome channel my friend.
Great video man! Lot's of informative information backed by easy to see data clearly laid out, well done.
Your reviews are getting better, way to step yup the game looking forward to 2019
Thank you! I really appreciate you noticing. That’s always my aim
You just convinced me to use elevation speakers. Thanks!
Just cleared all my doubts. Nice job!
Just bought some Klipsch atmos speakers which I’m going to wall mount and definitely not on top of my speakers, this vid definitely confirmed that, I would have liked to roof mount some ceiling speakers, but the wife acceptance factor wasn’t good, so I bought 4 of them for high on the walls
LIKE YOUR VIDEO. i HAVE HAD atmos RECEIVER since 2015; had bought UP-FIRING speakers, but did not really hear sound on ceiling per se. Then put those speakers on sides of room, and NOW have those speakers on celing, facing "down". I did like hearing the dinosaur (better) on roof in JURASSIC WORLD (right upper speaker) and men running on roofs (left speaker), better sounding when on side walls, as speakers were separated further apart, BUT can still hear "ceiling" sounds though, even though speakers closer together now and more in center of room-ceiling. I put them almost directly above the seats/above "my head". BUT I LOVE ATMOS/DTS:X. Hearing sounds like helicopters going from left to right above your head, IS GREAT! Just came across your video tonight. Thanks again, keep up great informative videos. HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Glad you liked it. Happy new year to you too!
Just installed 4 in ceiling speakers last night so now I'm running 5.2.4..You can definitely hear a difference with overhead speakers. Love it so far. If you do this project, prepare to get dirty lol
Right? So. Much. Drywall. Dust.
Really glad to hear you’re loving the results tho... congrats!
Well done thanks for the comparison
hi there...I'm so late joining this conversation but I hope to get some advice. I can't use in ceiling speakers for my 5.1.4 setup so I'm thinking of using 4 bookshelf speakers -2 mounted at the front up on the wall just under the ceiling and 2 at the back-my sofa is in the middle of the room. The Prime elevation would be nice because they are already angled but I wonder if just about any other speaker would work too...for best results, should these speakers be mounted aligned with the main L and R speakers at the front and in line at the back too? or should I place them in the corners? And for calibration I would call them Height or top? so many options . I have a Denon AVR-X4400. Thanks so much!
I've yet to transition to Atmos speakers. Thank you for this video. Very informed and easy to understand. Seems like Ready Player one is the gold standard for demos now.
I have a slanted ceiling and atmos doesn't cater too well for that experience. I won't spend money on upfiring ones after your review.
Whatever happened to DTS X?
Glad I could help. On-wall Atmos speakers might be your best bet. DTS:X is still there, but Atmos is more widely adopted.
Very helpful video. Congrats!!
Awesome man, I'm framing my basement and trying to decide in-ceiling or elevation. My ceiling is wide open. Wiring isn't an issue.
Great channel , great video, and great information. Subscribed...! 👍🏾
Awesome. Glad you liked!
Great vídeo.. i ran my setup 5.1.4 2 and 2 are atmos elevation speakers (rear side) and 2 front are bookshelves q150
Excellent info... I have the Andrew jones 5.1 without atmos and will be looking into adding some atmos speakers... this video will definitely help me with my decision process.
Glad it could help. It’s definitely something you where you want to have the most information available
HDR lookin good
I used small monopole as front height speakers (JBL Control 1 Pro's) they do a good job.
AWESOME video bru, thanks!!
I have Boston speakers . Is it possible to use surround speakers as height /mounted Dolby surround speakers ? I am not sure whether to buy inceiling or mount the small speakers on the wall. I am using a 7.2 channel Yamaha avr . Please advise before I make a mistake and regret it. Take care .
by any chance im trying to build my home theater setup what setup are you using your self right now just wondering?
I laughed so hard when you said about not going to listen to a 7.1.4 or 5.1.4 "just don't do that, just don't", hahaha. Going to have to convince the mrs that we need 4 dolby atmos speakers now.....
Hello, is there any difference if i set the front heights as top fronts or viceversa or the same sound goes no mater what you assign them?
Great Video, glad I found your channel. I've been playing with in or on-ceiling ideas and testing and I think I'm going with elevation speakers after listening to some of the SVS products.
Hello, thanks for your video! What you think about Monitor Audio Bronze AMS for elevation placement of speakers?
Hi man and i have small room 13 m2 ( 4.1m x 3.1 m ) and i thinking to upgrade my old 7.1 config for Atmos and is there any sens to add 4 hight speakers or leave just 2 as 7.1.2 system ? will feel the difference ? or rather lack of those second paar ?
Whats a good box speaker to use to bolt onto the ceiling for atmos
If you want sound to come from a point source, place speaker at that point.
Did you leave the inceiling speakers open to the ceiling void; Or did you install speaker hoods/box-in the rear of the void behind the speakers?
You have shown the svs prime elevation only as height speaker. But they can also be placed in the ceiling. Can you make a review with preme evevation sound quality and atmos effect comparing to klipsch rp500 sa ii?
Great video. I have a question about the Klipsch R-625FA and the pioneer Elite SP-EFS73 upfiring speakers. I have now the LG C9 hooked up to the Onkyo TX-NR696 Receiver and it is nice. I just need speakers and speakers for dolby atmos. Now Im struggling between which one to pick for that dolby atmos experience. Either the Klipsch or the Pioneer up firing. Now that I saw your video I'm thinking of getting the Klipsch RP-140SA elevation speakers and tower Klipsch speakers. thanks in advance for any information.
How about the prime elevations but mounted as in ceilings?
That an interesting test for another time 😆
@@ThaVillaMan word, I bought SONY SSCSE, enabled speakers, can I put them directly ontop of the sofa, pointing downwards? (I want to use then as, IN CEILING, speakers for dolby atmos) I already bought them on black friday as a deal and I'm not trying to buy other speakers
@@gabrielabdulla7246 did it work for you?
@@Toschh yea they work perfectly
@@gabrielabdulla7246 nice! Do you think you benefit more from putting them behind the sofa and not Infront of you on the wall were the tv is?
Thums up to you viLaMaN, great topic and advice .
Thanks! Glad you found it useful!
Well done with research and evidence. Thanks
Are you OK with 2 ceiling speakers for Dolby Atmos or is there a big difference with 4? You thoughts on Martin Logan Helos ? And if 4 speakers is that much better than 2 is that require certain movies that produce additional sounds with 4? Is the 2 better quality speakers (martin Logan) still better than using 4 less expensive speakers? thx in advance
I use bookshelf speakers pointed down like the prime elevation. Gonna get the klipsh speakers that are like the primes
Hey, I bought SONY SSCSE, enabled speakers, can I put them directly ontop of the sofa, pointing downwards? (I want to use then as, IN CEILING, speakers for dolby atmos) I already bought them on black friday as a deal and I'm not trying to buy other speakers
Villaman i just bought a Denon 3700 with 5.1 Polk Signature Series. Regarding Dolby Atmos i was thinking about 4x Elacs A4.2 Dolby Enabled Speakers because my ceiling is concrete and i cant use in ceiling. What do you think about them?
This video was awesome! Thank you.
Thanks for you great vídeo 👍🏻
question: with 4 proper speakers instead of 2 modules you hear things MOVING from front to back of your ceiling? thank you
Thanks for the review, for my room I will be using Klipsch rp140sa. Your video has been very helpful.
Hi. I am looking for information on speaker placement just for Atmos. I am creating a 7.2.4 system. I will be using a elevation speakers. Should they go in the front and rear of the room or centered around the listening area?
Very good video explanation of the 3 types of Atmos speakers. Thank you.
The in ceiling speakers sounded the best to me. They seemed more full and balanced.
The in ceiling speakers are the ones I picked ( just dumb luck) it’s just to hard to really tell on TH-cam. But in ceiling speakers will always sound better. But that’s just my opinion.
Hey have a great New Year!!!
I have a 2 story great room that's open to the kitchen (19ft by 17ft by 15ft tall). What's your recommendation for atmos? I don't think I should install speakers in the ceiling or very high on the wall because it's not going to work up there? Lol, no idea.
hi Villa_Man
I have a 16 x 16 living room. On the left side of my TV is a double sliding door that leads to the back yard, on the right of my TV is an open wall that joins the living to the kitchen. My ceilings are 9 feet high. I will be ordering a set of Ash SVS Prime Pinnacle floor standing speakers for the front (left, right), and a Prime Ultra for the Center channel. I will also order two sb2000 subs. I would like to install in-wall speakers for the rear surrounds, as well as 4 in-ceilings for the dolby atmos. Would you recommend I install the EM-IC by Martin Logan, or the Helos for in-ceiling? Also, what in-ceiling speakers would you recommend I install?
any help would be greatly appreciated!
How high should the front elevation speakers be ? Should they be touching the ceiling ?
Do you have the SVS elevation speakers set as front/rear heights in the receiver?
I know I'm 4 years late, but great video. And if you want to really laugh, although I have a 7.1 setup right now, I just discovered Atmos in the past couple of weeks. I've got a 8-10 year old Yamaha 7.1 receiver that I discovered has a small issue. I figured, hey Black Friday sales are coming up so let me check out the deals. I start looking and immediately go 'What the hell is 11.2?' Anyway, here I am looking for advice/tips/tricks as to how to move up to the next sound space level.