I’m an arborist and I’ll say that the sugihara bars are some of the best I’ve used, especially on smaller saws and top handles. I’ve beat the heck out of it on my T540XP and haven’t even needed to ever touch the rails. The performance of the bar is also better than most others. The tolerances seem to be tighter and the way the chain slides along the rails is super smooth and allows for more precise cuts. I don’t think they’re stainless and mine rust. I usually grind off all coatings and cold blue the steel.
I grew up on a farm, most of my family is pro loggers . My brothers got a couple skidders and slashers and all that. We just use what’s available, I’m starting to wander and look at other stuff. Lol I usually cut 50 cords or more every year of just firewood. Keep up the good work you rock brother.
I primarily use stihls and I’ve only ever used the factory bars. When they wear out, I go to my local stihl dealer and get a new one. I going to look into one of those sugiharas now. Thanks for the video!
I agree almost 100% with everything in this video. The only thing I would add is that personally, I have ruined 2 bars by getting them stuck while felling. I almost wore one bar out with normal use. As a homeowner who cuts firewood I'm twice as likely to destroy one than wear one out. Well, I'm glad it's not like that with vehicles.
1 point to be made is that its a half pound 28" I. front of you and at 8-12 hour shifts it definitely makes a difference. Especially when running a 372xp or 395xp all day.
Bars can be a great debate! There's a big difference between professional Sawyer's homeowner/ Rancher or firewood cutters! Homeowner/ rancher usually don't know about bar maintenance poor about maintenance in general
I see a lot of torn up bars all due to maintenance also my more professional woodcutters they know about maintenance and how important a good maintain bar is for production Your barn chain is just as important as your powerhead I can tell all my guys it starts with your bar and chain in order to get a straight cut!!!! A well-maintained bar and chain I'll take a lot of strain off your power head I make your powerhead last 100 times fold!!!!!
The archer bars are pretty darn heavy, and I immediately bent the hell out it when I got my bar pinched(first tree of the day fuck ups). I bent it back to fairly straight it works but not ideal lol. The versacuts are my go-to. I also have a speedcut which i believe is just versacut but .325, don't buy their speedcut chain it's got half the length of some other teeth on other chain types lol.
@@RumfordSledhead I deleted his stupid comment. Don't know what he was on about. If he does it again, he'll get blocked. Can't stand a holes like that.
I LOVE when I get a small tree job! It's fun, a good workout, and I almost always get paid twice. Once for the job, and then once for using the tree afterwards. If it's good wood, like hickory, I'll bring it home and mill it into lumber. If it's good firewood, it goes in my stove. Even pine, I'll sale to people wanting wood for their fire pits.
@@novicelumberjack I'll probably post a video of the place today. We rented a bucket lift. I'm using my truck to pull a few trees over. This one pine gets me excited. It's huge.
Thats correct its if cheap it will have some pull on the magnet.if its 200 stainless it won't be at all.. also I know grinding on the bar is not a good idea but for anybody who doesn't care. Take a grinder and touch the bar. Yellow sparks are steel blue sparks are stainless. Correct me if I am wrong
@@beeehusky7431 there is a difference for sure but not sure you could make a definite yes. You probably could tell if you have a sample to compare with. I bet the metal comp is online. It is most likely a hardened steel blend.
I’m an arborist and I’ll say that the sugihara bars are some of the best I’ve used, especially on smaller saws and top handles. I’ve beat the heck out of it on my T540XP and haven’t even needed to ever touch the rails. The performance of the bar is also better than most others. The tolerances seem to be tighter and the way the chain slides along the rails is super smooth and allows for more precise cuts. I don’t think they’re stainless and mine rust. I usually grind off all coatings and cold blue the steel.
I grew up on a farm, most of my family is pro loggers . My brothers got a couple skidders and slashers and all that. We just use what’s available, I’m starting to wander and look at other stuff. Lol I usually cut 50 cords or more every year of just firewood. Keep up the good work you rock brother.
I primarily use stihls and I’ve only ever used the factory bars. When they wear out, I go to my local stihl dealer and get a new one. I going to look into one of those sugiharas now. Thanks for the video!
It's called truing the bar when you even the rails up. They've also got a rolling clamp to get the gauge back where you want it.
I agree almost 100% with everything in this video. The only thing I would add is that personally, I have ruined 2 bars by getting them stuck while felling. I almost wore one bar out with normal use. As a homeowner who cuts firewood I'm twice as likely to destroy one than wear one out. Well, I'm glad it's not like that with vehicles.
1 point to be made is that its a half pound 28" I. front of you and at 8-12 hour shifts it definitely makes a difference. Especially when running a 372xp or 395xp all day.
The versacut is a lite weight bar. They only make them up to 24" and I paid $75 CAD for it. Funny is the 16" was the same price as the 24"
Your right, the versacut and speedcut line replaced the Pro-lite series.
Bars can be a great debate!
There's a big difference between professional Sawyer's homeowner/ Rancher or firewood cutters!
Homeowner/ rancher usually don't know about bar maintenance poor about maintenance in general
I see a lot of torn up bars all due to maintenance also my more professional woodcutters they know about maintenance and how important a good maintain bar is for production
Your barn chain is just as important as your powerhead I can tell all my guys it starts with your bar and chain in order to get a straight cut!!!!
A well-maintained bar and chain I'll take a lot of strain off your power head I make your powerhead last 100 times fold!!!!!
My 20" Oregon speedcut bar is 1 lb 7 Oz.
I purchased a 20" Sugihara for my 372. Im not gonna lie....its a looker
I have Sugi or Tsumura on every saw I have, no issues yet but I rotate through all my saws.
Magnets don't stick to stainless, usually. Though, if read, somebody already said that.
That Sugi most likely has LOTS of Chromium in its alloy, and that will allow for longevity AND extremely good rust resistance.
That chrome also contributes to the Sugis being harder/more wear resistant.
I use a 20” power match , good bar and replaceable tip. That’s all I know lol
They make a new one now with an aluminum core. Not sure but they say it’s stronger and lighter. But I have no clue lol
The archer bars are pretty darn heavy, and I immediately bent the hell out it when I got my bar pinched(first tree of the day fuck ups). I bent it back to fairly straight it works but not ideal lol. The versacuts are my go-to. I also have a speedcut which i believe is just versacut but .325, don't buy their speedcut chain it's got half the length of some other teeth on other chain types lol.
Only one I ever had was a 36". Seemed perfectly average to me.
@@bldlightpainting huh?
@@RumfordSledhead I deleted his stupid comment. Don't know what he was on about. If he does it again, he'll get blocked. Can't stand a holes like that.
@The Novice Lumberjack thank you, as Watch Wes Work would say, TH-cam is the last frontier for ugly stupid commentary. Lol
I am working on a great little tree job. All Maples Im dropping . Whats really good is Im getting paid to heat my house.
I LOVE when I get a small tree job! It's fun, a good workout, and I almost always get paid twice. Once for the job, and then once for using the tree afterwards. If it's good wood, like hickory, I'll bring it home and mill it into lumber. If it's good firewood, it goes in my stove. Even pine, I'll sale to people wanting wood for their fire pits.
@@novicelumberjack I'll probably post a video of the place today. We rented a bucket lift. I'm using my truck to pull a few trees over. This one pine gets me excited. It's huge.
I buy orgeon bars and chains for my saws. USA made.
Some of them are USA made, not all.
Try to stick a magnet onto that bar. If it sticks its steel. If it doesn't its stainless.
Cheap stainless is magnetic
Thats correct its if cheap it will have some pull on the magnet.if its 200 stainless it won't be at all.. also I know grinding on the bar is not a good idea but for anybody who doesn't care. Take a grinder and touch the bar. Yellow sparks are steel blue sparks are stainless. Correct me if I am wrong
@@beeehusky7431 there is a difference for sure but not sure you could make a definite yes. You probably could tell if you have a sample to compare with. I bet the metal comp is online. It is most likely a hardened steel blend.
Lmao pretty bar you damn right, I like a pretty saw a pretty truck a pretty woman…. Shit anything pretty 💪 lmao I’m rambling now too 🤣
If you were commercial logging those bars will wear out in a couple to four months
Damn. That's CRAZY! How many tanks of fuel per day you think?
@@novicelumberjack when I was logging fulltime 20 years ago I'd use close to 3 or 4 gallons of fuel a day .
@@larrywarner9314 Mr. Larry, I thought I was going through it at 2 gallons a day...you were doing some serious work sir....
The sugi hara bars are durable bar don't get me wrong
maths are hard.....I didn't go into business to be good at math....I just want to cut stuff.
Your a year off. Lol 😝