This is pretty darn good. The 237 reference is interesting. So, does that mean there are 3 female characters in Room 237: Young naked lady, old naked lady and Wendy? Also worth noting is that Joanne Woodward plays the psychiatrist in Sybil with Sally Field. That movie was released in 1976.
I do know that the movie Sybil made the girl "Eve" come out and write the book "I'm Eve" which supposed to bring all the dirt from her Psychologists as well as she wasn't really cured. I have not read the book, but the book was made in 1977 and I cannot see why Stanley didn't use anything from the book. I'll try to get a copy of the book after Christmas. (unless my wife got me a copy) LOL
That's a good point. I was thinking about including the scene but I believe Jack was clearly breaking the 4th wall. I wasn't sure if Danny was breaking the 4th wall (maybe he does) maybe 🤔
Nunnally Johnson wrote house of rothschild (1934) Boris karloff who Nicholson took checking off his lines in scripts as seen in the making of the shinning is in the movie. Some connections to think about.
Thanks I'll have to look into House of Rothschild. I remember reading that he was a newspaper writer/reporter and he started writing movie scripts in the 1920s and decided to move to Hollywood because he didn't like how his script was made into a movie.
@@tankardoftales4645 it's kinda watchable - if I had a better memory...i often start movies to get a feel. There might be too much to sort through. I hope this helps. Great vids on this channel btw!
@@GenerateGoodInformation yeah I get the point. There are way too many films I want to watch but just cannot get into them. Im not sure Nunnally Johnson power of influence as a writer compared to him as the producer and director. That's why I watched Night People (since it was his first movie he directed). I didn't see any special with Night People. The movie seemed hand tied because the context of the movie seem to need more show then tell. The movie was mostly tell us what happened instead of showing. Hard to feel sympathetic to characters that we never saw and murdered off screen, but this event was important to the main character.
@@richlinlaw thanks. I'm not sure if I downloaded the movie from TH-cam or Internet Archive. I'm looking for a Lizzie 1957 to download. I do see a place to watch the movie. I have not seen Lizzie yet, but the story is similar to 3 faces of Eve and it was made by Shirley Jackson [The Haunting of Hill House] which is the Haunting 1963.
@@tankardoftales4645 I've never even heard of Lizzie, and we had the TV turned to movie programs night and day in the sixties and seventies. I would be interested to see that, too.
19:05 To me, the old lady's hair looks kind of like Danny's hair, in this shot. 21:28 Good job summing it all up, the evidence is that Kubrick was using this movie as a formula.
Thanks. I think Kubrick is using a technique called Mere-exposure effect or familiarity principle which is common with advertising. You can see this in many of his films. The Shining seems to be loaded with reference to Psychological drama and horror. 3 Faces of Eve has many things connected to the Shining. Intresting find is 3 Faces of Eve shows signs that the movie is also being told by an unreliable narrator, especially with the doctors. My assumption is the director, Nunnally Johnson, might know something about the doctors he didn't want to tell publicly. I believe the real Eve wrote a book in the 1970s (after Sybil) and she told how the doctors took advantage of her. I dont have the book to verify my findings.
@@tankardoftales4645 I read a quote from Kubrick the other day where he said to Jack N. that every scene had already been filmed - and it was their job to do it better. I never heard that last bit before.
@@watermelonlalala that's interesting Jack Nicholson was an accomplishment graduate from the school of Roger Corman. Kubrick would be a walk in the park.
I mostly don't have any arguments with your observations. I want to say a cigar used to be very famous as an example of the way Sigmund Freud thought everything was about sex and phallic symbols. He smoked cigars all the time, and somebody pointed out to him, hey that's a phallic symbol, isn't it? And Freud said, "No, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." Also, I believe the psychology "explained" in old movies about psychiatrists was always goofy, made up stuff. Not just in this one. And I never believe movies when they say this is an old tradition, and this is why people do it. It might be true, it might not.
Thanks and I'm always open to learn new stuff. The cigar seemed to have a phallic symbol since Bill Clinton... lol. I'm not sure with Sigmund Freud, I can believe the cigar "phallic symbol" during his times and even older. I'm not 100% sure about the motive of the moving ashtrays in 3 faces of Eve. My hunch is telling me the ashtray moved on the newspapers was done to highlight the papers.
Since you mention the oven with dials in the wrong place, I never noticed that, but I always thought the apartment was set up in an impossible way, with the couch facing the kitchen sink. One wall of the living room is the kitchen.
I've spent way way too much time watching and rewatching the apartment. If Wendy was crazy then we would see continuity differences in the apartment. The oven is odd. Now this type of oven does exist. But the model was designed for wall and above cabinets level. Some people have bought two of these wall mount ovens and we got knobs by the floor. It's rare I guess. I think the practical use is dumb because the person using the Oven needs to bend or kneel to the floor. Also, if you have toddlers - they would play with the knobs. I'm not sure what psycho would install this oven on the floor. The apartment makes this oven extremely weird. This wall mount is installed in a cabinet. The vents to these ovens are on top, so this oven is non functional. I also think the placement of the door, the knobs and the space off the floor. All on purpose because the oven could resemble a TV. And I think this oven is a TV and we see it as an oven because the narrator wants us to believe a kitchen is behind Wendy. Odd? Another odd thing in the apartment is the windows. The bathroom and Danny bedroom the windows are basement level. The front room windows is floor level. Also these windows coming from 3 different areas. So two of these windows are impossible. I know I need to make a video about the apartment. 😀
@@tankardoftales4645 TH-cam is really screwing up for me. I can't see what you said after "was designed..." No way to access it. Also, sometimes I can see (X) number of replies as a link, but when I click the link, I can only see (X minus 1) number of replies to read. Sometimes my own reply is the missing one. :(
@@tankardoftales4645 Oh, well, that is good to know. I have never gotten a youtube reply in my email. I didn't know anybody did. I will look into this.
@@tankardoftales4645 Hey, I found where the TH-cam replies go in my inbox. Thank you! And thanks for the long answer on the apartment. I have seen people claim a chair at the table behind Wendy moves from shot to shot, but I have never noticed that.
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This is pretty darn good. The 237 reference is interesting. So, does that mean there are 3 female characters in Room 237: Young naked lady, old naked lady and Wendy? Also worth noting is that Joanne Woodward plays the psychiatrist in Sybil with Sally Field. That movie was released in 1976.
I do know that the movie Sybil made the girl "Eve" come out and write the book "I'm Eve" which supposed to bring all the dirt from her Psychologists as well as she wasn't really cured. I have not read the book, but the book was made in 1977 and I cannot see why Stanley didn't use anything from the book. I'll try to get a copy of the book after Christmas. (unless my wife got me a copy) LOL
So friggin excited for this!!! 🤗🤗🤗. More comments later…
Hope you'll enjoy it, I cut the video in 2 parts and will post the second video by next Friday.
@@tankardoftales4645ok, nice!
This movie def. deserves a deep analysis and i'll have to watch it again soon.
Would you start an analysis on 3 faces of eve?
@@tankardoftales4645 Oh i don't think i would have much to say except that this movie reminds me of 3 Women and Images.
The Shining, the making of the shining and the elstree studio tour are essential to understanding the shining. Imho. Lol.
Just saying,
💎Danny makes the W sign (as does Eve White/Black) with his hands and so does Alice in EWS💎
That's a good point. I was thinking about including the scene but I believe Jack was clearly breaking the 4th wall. I wasn't sure if Danny was breaking the 4th wall (maybe he does) maybe 🤔
💎Welcome back, Mrs. T!💎
She said thanks and now she wishes she was married to Mr. T. Lol
@@tankardoftales4645 💎🤣🤣🤣💎
Nunnally Johnson wrote house of rothschild (1934) Boris karloff who Nicholson took checking off his lines in scripts as seen in the making of the shinning is in the movie. Some connections to think about.
Thanks I'll have to look into House of Rothschild. I remember reading that he was a newspaper writer/reporter and he started writing movie scripts in the 1920s and decided to move to Hollywood because he didn't like how his script was made into a movie.
@@tankardoftales4645 I watched the start of HOR but haven't made it to Karloff s part. They hide money.
@@GenerateGoodInformationwas it boring?
@@tankardoftales4645 it's kinda watchable - if I had a better memory...i often start movies to get a feel. There might be too much to sort through. I hope this helps. Great vids on this channel btw!
@@GenerateGoodInformation yeah I get the point. There are way too many films I want to watch but just cannot get into them.
Im not sure Nunnally Johnson power of influence as a writer compared to him as the producer and director. That's why I watched Night People (since it was his first movie he directed). I didn't see any special with Night People. The movie seemed hand tied because the context of the movie seem to need more show then tell. The movie was mostly tell us what happened instead of showing. Hard to feel sympathetic to characters that we never saw and murdered off screen, but this event was important to the main character.
Let's Go!!
3 faces is on youtube free
@@richlinlaw thanks. I'm not sure if I downloaded the movie from TH-cam or Internet Archive.
I'm looking for a Lizzie 1957 to download. I do see a place to watch the movie. I have not seen Lizzie yet, but the story is similar to 3 faces of Eve and it was made by Shirley Jackson [The Haunting of Hill House] which is the Haunting 1963.
@@tankardoftales4645 I've never even heard of Lizzie, and we had the TV turned to movie programs night and day in the sixties and seventies. I would be interested to see that, too.
@@watermelonlalala I saw a trailer a sometime ago. I need to see it, but there are many films on my list.
Found a way to download Lizzie. I'll flash drive the movie and watch it after Christmas.
19:05 To me, the old lady's hair looks kind of like Danny's hair, in this shot. 21:28 Good job summing it all up, the evidence is that Kubrick was using this movie as a formula.
Thanks. I think Kubrick is using a technique called Mere-exposure effect or familiarity principle which is common with advertising. You can see this in many of his films. The Shining seems to be loaded with reference to Psychological drama and horror. 3 Faces of Eve has many things connected to the Shining. Intresting find is 3 Faces of Eve shows signs that the movie is also being told by an unreliable narrator, especially with the doctors. My assumption is the director, Nunnally Johnson, might know something about the doctors he didn't want to tell publicly. I believe the real Eve wrote a book in the 1970s (after Sybil) and she told how the doctors took advantage of her. I dont have the book to verify my findings.
@@tankardoftales4645 I read a quote from Kubrick the other day where he said to Jack N. that every scene had already been filmed - and it was their job to do it better. I never heard that last bit before.
@@watermelonlalala that's interesting Jack Nicholson was an accomplishment graduate from the school of Roger Corman. Kubrick would be a walk in the park.
I mostly don't have any arguments with your observations. I want to say a cigar used to be very famous as an example of the way Sigmund Freud thought everything was about sex and phallic symbols. He smoked cigars all the time, and somebody pointed out to him, hey that's a phallic symbol, isn't it? And Freud said, "No, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." Also, I believe the psychology "explained" in old movies about psychiatrists was always goofy, made up stuff. Not just in this one. And I never believe movies when they say this is an old tradition, and this is why people do it. It might be true, it might not.
Thanks and I'm always open to learn new stuff. The cigar seemed to have a phallic symbol since Bill Clinton... lol. I'm not sure with Sigmund Freud, I can believe the cigar "phallic symbol" during his times and even older.
I'm not 100% sure about the motive of the moving ashtrays in 3 faces of Eve. My hunch is telling me the ashtray moved on the newspapers was done to highlight the papers.
Since you mention the oven with dials in the wrong place, I never noticed that, but I always thought the apartment was set up in an impossible way, with the couch facing the kitchen sink. One wall of the living room is the kitchen.
I've spent way way too much time watching and rewatching the apartment. If Wendy was crazy then we would see continuity differences in the apartment.
The oven is odd. Now this type of oven does exist. But the model was designed for wall and above cabinets level. Some people have bought two of these wall mount ovens and we got knobs by the floor. It's rare I guess. I think the practical use is dumb because the person using the Oven needs to bend or kneel to the floor. Also, if you have toddlers - they would play with the knobs. I'm not sure what psycho would install this oven on the floor.
The apartment makes this oven extremely weird. This wall mount is installed in a cabinet. The vents to these ovens are on top, so this oven is non functional.
I also think the placement of the door, the knobs and the space off the floor. All on purpose because the oven could resemble a TV.
And I think this oven is a TV and we see it as an oven because the narrator wants us to believe a kitchen is behind Wendy.
Odd?
Another odd thing in the apartment is the windows. The bathroom and Danny bedroom the windows are basement level. The front room windows is floor level. Also these windows coming from 3 different areas. So two of these windows are impossible.
I know I need to make a video about the apartment. 😀
@@tankardoftales4645 TH-cam is really screwing up for me. I can't see what you said after "was designed..." No way to access it. Also, sometimes I can see (X) number of replies as a link, but when I click the link, I can only see (X minus 1) number of replies to read. Sometimes my own reply is the missing one. :(
@@hermanhale9258 I get these issues too 😞
If you check your email you should gets the post on the email 😉
@@tankardoftales4645 Oh, well, that is good to know. I have never gotten a youtube reply in my email. I didn't know anybody did. I will look into this.
@@tankardoftales4645 Hey, I found where the TH-cam replies go in my inbox. Thank you! And thanks for the long answer on the apartment. I have seen people claim a chair at the table behind Wendy moves from shot to shot, but I have never noticed that.