Beethoven: Piano Concerto No.5 in Eb, Op.73 (Grimaud)

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  • The most exultant and thrilling of Beethoven’s piano concertos. It’s actually pretty rare in the so-called classical canon that a work that is just so unreservedly happy for most of its length gets acknowledged as a full-blown masterpiece, but the Emperor has deservedly made it. (As an aside, the title “Emperor” has always struck me as really annoying, mostly because this piece really does not have much by way of bombast or imperiousness. Instead it’s consistently generous and open, even as its tone shifts from celebratory in the first to confessional in the second and joltingly dancelike in the third.) Every movement is perfectly put together - the first movement is ingeniously built up from a diverse but closely-related set of themes, the second movement is a study in how a major key can be so tender as to be almost sad, the third has a lot of fun with juddering syncopation (pretending to be in ¾) + colourful modulations, and even the first movement’s orchestral exposition (which in many other concertos is a bit of a plod) is almost unbearably exciting. It’s also remarkable how much of the musical connective tissue in the work is beautiful in its own right - lots of passing material in the first movement, for instance, is really nice.
    Grimaud and the Staatskapelle Dresden put in an inspired performance here - Grimaud has a Brahmsian way with the piano part: alternately meltingly beautiful and intensely dramatic, with some truly majestic soundscapes (see 10:26 and the octave passage after), while the SD has some really nice playing in the brass/woodwinds (all those lovely closeups of secondary lines!). Some highlights:
    0:03 - Not that uncommon these days, actually, but Grimaud takes the opening arpeggio with measured tuplets. It's a nice effect, turning a standard-issue arpeggio into a much more interesting texture.
    5:34 - T2 played in such a hushed/glowing manner (nobody else takes it this softly), and the subtle dynamic shading (and rubato - barely there but definitely there) of the major-mode variant which comes after.
    29:30 - The RH arpeggiated chord is taken in interesting way (both here and elsewhere) - Grimaud jumps back to the lowest note of the chord after reaching the top, making the chord sound much more angular.
    32:05 - The wafer-thin pianissimo at the top of the phrase beginning here (and similar).
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  • @AshishXiangyiKumar
    @AshishXiangyiKumar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    There's a *lot* of structural cleverness going on here, and since I feel like the Emperor is one of those works (wonderful as it is) which is made about three times better if you know how it ticks (especially that audacious-to-the-point-of-becoming-ridiculous first movement), this is going to be a bit long:
    MVT I, Allegro, in Eb
    00:00 - Introduction/cadenza (the scale built from leaping 4-note downward runs at 1:05 will become important).
    EXPOSITION I (Orchestra)
    1:13 - Theme 1 (T1), made of 3 critical motifs in quick succession - a 3-note turn (M1), a 4-note descent (M2), and a very short dotted fanfare (M3).
    1:35 - Transition Theme 1 (TrT1), built from M2
    1:47 - TrT2 (the bass line returns later)
    2:01 - TrT3
    2:08 - T2 in Ebm, transformed immediately later into a lyrical passage (T2 Var.1) at 2:24 (listen especially to the French horns). In all of its recurrences T2 is always paired with a major version of itself.
    2:39 - Transition, using M1 in the high and low strings. At 2:45, a brief syncopated octave line in the violins appears (M4), heralding the return of T1. T1 is diverted at 2:54 into a passage consisting of yet more instances of M1 strung together, decorated with M4 in all the woodwinds. The transition has its own little climax at 3:09, which is followed by an arpeggio descent made of M2 (expanded), with a wonderful entry of the trumpets/French horns in unison at 3:13.
    3:16 - Cadential Theme 1 (CaT1), built off the passage at 1:05.
    3:37 - CaT2, using M2 in every second bar. At 3:48 M3 enters and gradually grows more prominent.
    3:52 - CaT3, which is actually a variant of TrT3! At 4:01, interrupted by M1, which in turns establishes a Bb7b9 chord over which the piano enters with a chromatic scale.
    EXPOSITION II (Piano)
    4:17 - T1, broad, relaxed, lyrical. Diverted into a long fantasia-like passage.
    4:47 - TrT1, orchestra
    4:55 - TrT1, developed in the piano into a darkly syncopated version, modulating to Gb
    5:07 - TrT2 in orchestra, piano with accompaniment
    5:22 - Transition, built off inversion of 0:30 in the cadenza (lower chromatic neighbour tones there, upper neighbour tones here!)
    5:33 - T2 Var.2, Bm., hushed and mystical, triplets. T2 Var.3 in B enters at 5:50. T2 Var.4, a sudden march in (unprepared) Bb, suddenly erupts in the orchestra at 6:11.
    6:25 - Piano solo fill. At 6:36, a heavily modified TrT2 enters in the piano (note the rhythmic similarity), and is diverted into a downward scale. Call this TrT2*.
    6:43 - M1 in RH, over LH chromatic descent. Sequential development. At 7:03, M4 appears in the RH, descending. M4 then moves into the clarinets/bassoon while the piano modulates.
    7:21 - CaT1, in Cb. Note at 7:33 the orchestra’s material is based off a heavily augmented T2(!)
    7:51 - M4 = variant of M3, in orchestra, with the piano providing diminished 7th arpeggios. At 7:58, the piano reiterates its opening RH chromatic scale, now joined by its LH counterpart from 6:43.
    8:02 - T2 in orchestra, Bb. Follows pattern in expo 1, with CaT1 following an appearance (8:29). At 8:48, M3 in the horns, making a modulation to
    8:51 - CaT3, in G. at 9:01, M3 fanfares and another chromatic scale leads into the
    DEVELOPMENT
    9:12 - Trill on new tonic, followed by borrowed slow arpeggio texture from T2 Var.3 (9:16, cf 5:50).
    9:32 - T1, Cm. M2 is now transformed into a long, partially chromatic descent in the woodwinds. Modulates to Gm, then into
    10:02 - Development of M2 (in the orchestra(, initially in Fm. Modulates into
    10:22 - M3 fanfare in Cb, leading into
    10:35 - Extended parallel octave passage, interrupted/accompanied by M3. This passage is built off multiple things you’ve heard before - some combination of TrT2*’s octave descent (6:38), an inversion of the passage at 7:33, and the melodic contour of T1 (M3, followed by a descent - originally an Eb chord, now scales).
    11:15 - CaT3, bright and lyrical, in G. Modulates using M1 in the orchestra (11:23) into Db/Eb, then pauses on a floating (rootless) Bb7b9 arpeggio (11:53), while M1 sneaks in via the low strings, eventually intensifying an taking over the texture. This leads into the
    RECAPITULATION
    12:16 - opening cadenza, now measured and thickened with tumbling octaves.
    13:03 - T1. At 13:14 (after the orchestra plays a noble, chorale-like version of the last phrase), it is finally joined by the piano, playing a free, almost improvisatory version of T1. The woodwinds softly insert M3 where the piano leaves it out.
    13:43 - TrT2.
    14:09 - T2, undergoing the same transformations as in Expo II (though note at 14:44 the modulation is now tone by a tone, rather than up a major 3rd).
    15:20 - M1, as in Expo II
    15:57 - CaT1
    16:38 - T1, orchestra + piano interjections, building into the cadential 6/4 (17:04) -
    17:10 - But the expected piano cadenza isn’t there (B. even writes “Do not play a cadenza” directly in the score). We get instead a short solo passage built off M1, diverting at 17:14 into a chromatic texture borrowed from the LH at 7:03. We pause on a dominant trill which suddenly changes mode, leading into
    17:35 - T2 Var.5, the most delicate variant yet, beautifully followed by T2 Var.6 (17:53), the warmest variant (those French horns!).
    18:10 - Transition, using M1, with descending chromatic scales in the piano leading into
    CODA
    18:20 - T1, fully shared with the piano now. At 18:35, modulations enter, leading into
    18:44 - The heart-stopping climactic statement of CaT2, heard only for the second time in the work.
    18:59 - CaT3, leading into M3 (19:08). We get the piano’s opening chromatic scale yet again (19:15), now leading into a long sparkling descent. This brings us to the
    19:33 - Final cadence, with M3 in the orchestra.
    MVT II, Adagio un poco moto, in B
    20:07 - Theme
    21:23 - Var.1. I’ll go out on a limb and say this is the saddest major scale written in all classical music.
    22:36 - Var.2 in D. There’s a wonderful change in texture at 23:19 - Brahmsian all of a sudden, maybe even a bit harsh. And of course the hair-raising trills after.
    24:12 - Var.3. Sounds to me compassionate, odd word though that may be.
    25:07 - Var.4 (begins proper at 25:41, but the new texture enters earlier, so it feels like the variation starts here). Piano for the first time gains a little of its own momentum, becoming uplifting.
    27:33 - Transition
    MVT III, Rondo, allegro ma non troppo, in Eb
    EXPOSITION
    28:11 - [A SECTION] Theme 1. Such a fun thing - fat chords, brashly syncopated (basically hemiola-ized into ¾ ), and then the pungent chromatic sliding descent after (with the LH written to put an accent on the second quaver of each beat).
    29:08 - Bridge 1
    29:17 - Bridge 2
    29:50 - [B SECTION] Theme 2, Bb
    29:58 - Bridge 3. A bunch of I/V/IV chords, though made to sound haloed with brightness. At the end the b9 makes an appearance (30:13, highlighted by those treacherous two-octave leaps) in, recalling Mvt 1’s prominent use of the same colour.
    30:19 - [A SECTION] Theme 1
    DEVELOPMENT [C SECTION]
    30:40 - Theme 1, Var.1, in Eb, modulating
    31:18 - Theme 1, Var.2, in C, introducing a new tail in place of the original chromatic descent (31:29) which will be retained across remaining variations. Interesting to note how different this variant sounds from the original - deeper, more spacious, even though very little in the texture has changed.
    31:50 - Theme 1, Var.3, in Ab. Lyrical, with chromatic elaboration. The new tail from the previous variation is retained.
    32:35 - Theme 1, Var.4, in E. Arpeggio variant in RH.
    32:57 - New developmental theme in Em, modulating. The orchestra from 33:08 onwards recalls the use of M3 from Mvt 1. Ends in a long dominant prolongation and a trill on Bb.
    33:32 - A new variant of Theme 1 returns, revisiting the transition from the previous movement into this one (it’s possible also to read this section as a deceptive return of the recap, since it’s in the right key).
    RECAPITULATION
    33:44 - [A SECTION] Theme 1
    34:40 - Bridge 1
    34:48 - Bridge 2
    35:24 - [B SECTION] Theme 2, in Eb
    35:32 - Bridge 3
    CODA
    35:53 - Theme 1 [A SECTION], now full shared between piano/orchestra. At 36:14, the first full statement of the theme by the orchestra. At 36:34, the piano takes over the melody, which becomes diverted into a new (and really lovely) descending closing statement (36:42). This gets elaborated between the orchestra/piano. The timpani starts softly echoing the defining rhythmic motif of this movement at 37:16, while the piano places a series of rising scales that eventually dissolve into soft, almost chorale-like chords.
    37:35 - The last recollection of Theme 1 in the LH, while the timpani gently guides the music to a halt.
    37:50 - Finale, recalling Bridge 1.

    • @dacoconutnut9503
      @dacoconutnut9503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Now I get the headache
      Edit: thank you for this wonderful analysis

    • @MaartenBauer
      @MaartenBauer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you thought of implementing your analyses in the score videos? I think that makes everything much clearer...

    • @dacoconutnut9503
      @dacoconutnut9503 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaartenBauer he already does, but usually in the video description. I think he chose to not apply the analysis directly to the score because it could pollute and distract the viewer from the music itself.

    • @AshishXiangyiKumar
      @AshishXiangyiKumar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@MaartenBauer Yeah, but I'm pretty firmly set against that because I don't want this to be a channel of analysis videos. I want this to be a nothing much more than a "here, take a look at the score while you listen to a good recording" channel.

    • @MaartenBauer
      @MaartenBauer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AshishXiangyiKumar Okay, thank you for the answer. Understandable even though I would love to then get separate analysis videos. I am really grateful that you do these videos anyway, keep up the good work. Greetings from NL!

  • @timward276
    @timward276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    One of my favorite moments in Beethoven's music is the transition into the Rondo: the held B goes down a half-step, a new theme starts tentatively, then leaps into the joyous Rondo. Makes my heart leap with joy every time I hear it.

  • @AshishXiangyiKumar
    @AshishXiangyiKumar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    00:00 - Mvt 1, Allegro
    20:07 - Mvt 2, Adagio un poco moto
    28:10 - Mvt 3, Rondo, Allegro ma non troppo

    • @OuaghlaniAlaa
      @OuaghlaniAlaa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      When was it recorded please ?

    • @DariusMo
      @DariusMo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OuaghlaniAlaa December 2006

  • @LukeFaulkner
    @LukeFaulkner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    My favourite of the 5 concerti. The 1st movement is so heroic, the 2nd so beautiful, and the 3rd so joyous.

  • @theultimatereductionist7592
    @theultimatereductionist7592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I absolutely love that ALL of Beethoven's music ends with massive catastrophic head and brain injury.

  • @DariusMo
    @DariusMo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I really love the fat chords starting at 10:26, it just sounds incredible!

    • @rockifythis
      @rockifythis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      we love some *thicc bois*

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The octaves that follow it are the first such usage of this texture in piano writing.

    • @bilkishchowdhury8318
      @bilkishchowdhury8318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@calebhu6383 Beethoven piano sonata no. 7

  • @charleshudson5330
    @charleshudson5330 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    All my life I've been transfixed by the adagio - the opening is so simple and so ethereal. What Beethoven does with simple, single descending notes.

  • @uwubutnotuwu8921
    @uwubutnotuwu8921 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember watching/listening to this the first time. During the third movement I loved how Bernstein looked so happy conducting this piece. Makes me love it even more xD

  • @makaan699
    @makaan699 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Nice, have been waiting for this one.
    Btw the way Grimaud captures the passage at 17:34 is absolutely unique and spectacular.

  • @elias69420
    @elias69420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This concerto had a huge influence on me. I learned so many tips & tricks in the double-exposition form from it!

    • @zakazaka4459
      @zakazaka4459 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you moroccan?

    • @elias69420
      @elias69420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zakazaka4459 No

  • @nickk8416
    @nickk8416 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank You for your wonderful commentary. It wasn't too long for me. :)
    I fell in love with this piece at age 15 many years ago listening to Wilhelm Kempff. It still remains my all time favorite with Rach 2. There is so much joy in this piece and such profound sorrow and beauty in the middle. Beethoven's compositional process with the 2nd movement went through change after change until he finally wrote what we have today. It was fascinating his trial and error process of getting it just right. Grimaud's playing is wonderful here.

  • @kristian.kalmanlehto
    @kristian.kalmanlehto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This concerto has had a huge impact on me since my early ears as a listener of classical music. Among so many wonderful concertos it takes a top place aside with the second concerto of Brahms.

  • @erne-7035
    @erne-7035 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for uploading! This is surely one of the best renditions of the 5th concerto I've ever listened to!

  • @Iamcwinge1234
    @Iamcwinge1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When you first hear 20:37 to 21:08 its beauty is staggering, but what is almost as beautiful is the immediately following bars.

  • @Don-bv3px
    @Don-bv3px 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The perfect balance between the piano and orchestra. What an amazing piano concerto!

  • @bilahn1198
    @bilahn1198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Emperor Concerto is one of my desert island picks. The first movement especially has such a perfect form and logic one thing following after another and then all wrapped up and tied with a bow. It gives me the chills every time.

  • @truBador2
    @truBador2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just listened to Helmchen. Would not have appreciated the articulation without your spotlight on it. The ensemble with the orchestra was astonishing at times! Can I possibly stand this level of great music so soon again? We'll see. BTW, you clearly have yet to embrace the concept of an all benevolent emperor. Of course, so did Beethoven. Thanks for the great music!

  • @dylanmorgan7900
    @dylanmorgan7900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    masterpiece

  • @snowcarriagechengcheng-hun3454
    @snowcarriagechengcheng-hun3454 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for uploading!

  • @Iamcwinge1234
    @Iamcwinge1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great analysis, as usual. Would love an upload of the full Chopin PC 1.

  • @limesquared
    @limesquared 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soothing...thank you...

  • @EmdrGreg
    @EmdrGreg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gawd, this is gorgeous music... delicious.

  • @mikedaniels3009
    @mikedaniels3009 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks so much for the sheet music.

  • @skoromoh_
    @skoromoh_ 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good afternoon.
    It's absolutely perfect concert for piano. I like it ❤
    .
    14524

  • @Sulsfort
    @Sulsfort 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Not that uncommon these days, actually, but Grimaud takes the opening arpeggio with measured tuplets."
    I only heard Glenn Gould doing that before.

    • @ignacioclerici5341
      @ignacioclerici5341 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow thats interesting..
      How about creating new music and having more composers instead of talking about a god damn interpreter playing a fuc** triplet or a fuck*** whatever the f***
      No wonder nobody cares about this music anymore

    • @jagp135
      @jagp135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ignacioclerici5341 u ok?

    • @hauscchildt6418
      @hauscchildt6418 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jagp135 i dont think so

  • @Sh.moon.
    @Sh.moon. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jurowski! I love his interpretations.

  • @NN-df7hl
    @NN-df7hl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kumar, thanks so much for this analysis! But I'm confused by 8:02 (in mvt 1) being marked as "T2 in orchestra." This sounds instead like what happens at 2:39 "Transition, using M1 in the high and low strings."

  • @Garrett_Rowland
    @Garrett_Rowland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting that typically when you upload a video with multiple performances the first performance gets significantly more views, but, after uploading these two as separate videos, the second performance gets over three times the views.

  • @granttherock9121
    @granttherock9121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:48 held me in a strange limp euphoric state until it got more intense.

  • @HamSammichOG
    @HamSammichOG 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any chance of an upload on Pogorelich’s performance of Chopin’s 3rd Piano Sonata? It’s one of the best performances I’ve ever heard.

  • @Prometeur
    @Prometeur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great rendition from Grimaud! The way she plays it does indeed sound very Brahmsian, given her background with the composer!

  • @djsuia1265
    @djsuia1265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:11 is the most powerful part un this concerto, I still remember the first time i heard ir

    • @Populous3Tutorials
      @Populous3Tutorials 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no the climax is that part at 9:30 and ends some moments later with chords

  • @adrianapartida5888
    @adrianapartida5888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FROM THE BEGINNING

  • @CameronGuarino
    @CameronGuarino 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love you, ashish

  • @MargaretGeorgila
    @MargaretGeorgila 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Прекрасная музыка из Бетховен!!

  • @alcyonecrucis
    @alcyonecrucis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting, patient phrasing

  • @ulysse__
    @ulysse__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Am I the only one who kinda imagines storylines when listening to music? In this Beethoven concerto, theres this passage where I always imagine myself an kinda stupid scene:
    11:15 A woman and her husband, sound asleep under the bedsheets.
    11:23 (Opening her eyes) "What's that noise?"
    11:28 Husband: "Honey, it's probably nothing. Go back to sleep."
    11:32 "If you say so..." (Closing her eyes)
    11:36 "No but seriously, what's that noise downstairs?"
    11:39 (Groaning) "Honey, it's nothing! Really."
    11:42 Starting to sleep once again
    11:46 No but actually this is stressing me out I need to go check
    11:53 Tiptoeing down the stairs, in the dark...
    11:58 (Hearing the cellos) What's that noise in the kitchen?
    12:05 Opening the door, the woman sees a vague shadow...
    12:07 The shadow starts moving, approaching the woman...!
    12:11 The shadow LEAPS
    12:16 "Mom, it's just me!"
    12:18 "Oh my god! I was so scared!"
    12:21 The son's echoing laughs
    12:26 (Chord) Scolding her child for scaring her at 2AM...
    12:27 What a relief !
    12:30 The son's laughs echoing again
    12:35 (Chord) I swear, if you do that again...
    12:37 Back up the stairs, the woman enters her bedroom
    12:49 Sliding under the bedsheets...
    12:55 "What a fright that was!"
    12:57 Closing her eyes once again...

    • @MattAsherMusic
      @MattAsherMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That put the biggest smile on my face. Love it

    • @limesquared
      @limesquared 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cute.

    • @hoyen315
      @hoyen315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had to reply this is the cutest interpretation I’ve ever seen on this concerto, thank you!

  • @mynews1
    @mynews1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kind of instrument is "Bl"? What does it stand for?

  • @lflagr
    @lflagr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always wondered if Bernstein stole the melody from West Side Story's "Somewhere" from the 2nd movement :)

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    26:26 - 26:48

  • @Bruce.-Wayne
    @Bruce.-Wayne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My second favorite concerto apart from concerto no3.....

  • @amgemin
    @amgemin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're killing it, with two great uploads at the same time - thank you and please continue!
    I love this execution, even though I grew up with the Pollini/Böhm version in my ears, and for me it's the best, in particular the Rondo (th-cam.com/video/gKRZRROJk6E/w-d-xo.html), which I've never heard done in a more breathless way.

  • @ethanq8297
    @ethanq8297 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what I heard in a concert.

  • @user-xc6jt2qo1h
    @user-xc6jt2qo1h 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:07
    20:07
    28:11
    19:18

  • @marcosPRATA918
    @marcosPRATA918 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Com Beethoven a textura eleva-se. É um grande prazer escutar acuradamente as tantas jogadas harmônicas, rítmicas melódicas e orquestrais enfim.

  • @dordiwesterlund2528
    @dordiwesterlund2528 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard Brendel play this in the 1908s. It was fantastic, clear, crisp, understated at times, bucolic at others, the tempi were perfect in my opinion, it was very different from this version, which I really do not like.

  • @Populous3Tutorials
    @Populous3Tutorials 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love this concerto's climax that here starts from 9:30 and climaxes almost 1 min later, but grimaud has no power for such passage
    listen to zimerman or something

    • @ultimateconstruction
      @ultimateconstruction 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Zimerman is overrated piece of garbage.

  • @user-mv3yp1nx8g
    @user-mv3yp1nx8g 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    이런곡 작곡한베토벤도 대단하다

  • @artemshvayger6865
    @artemshvayger6865 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:30

  • @L.F.Martilio.D
    @L.F.Martilio.D 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's so perfect that looks like a sin

  • @HanautanoBrook
    @HanautanoBrook 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    In all fairness to Hélène Grimaud, but her Mozart and Beethoven interpretations don't really satisfy. She uses way too much pedal, her articulation isn't crisp enough... she lacks a certain clarity in the way she's playing which is so important for the pieces of the first viennese school... This may be an unpopular opinion but this comes from someone whose favourite interpretations of the Beethoven concerti come from Mitsuko Uchida.

    • @Mohabpiano
      @Mohabpiano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      With all due respect, Mitsuko is nowhere near Beethoven, and her Mozart is pretty shallow if you ask me. Her renditions make me feel as if she takes the score at face value.
      Grimaud's grittiness is precisely the way to go about Beethoven. To make the music well articulated will introduce a kind of lightness which is not suited for Beethoven's works. Any musician would know that a Beethoven leggiero would sound heavier than a Mozart full legato. You just cannot put their pianistic approaches in the same mould.

    • @deldridg
      @deldridg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mohabpiano It's always enlightening to read differing perspectives from folks who are clearly well informed and passionate, along with being respectful. From my perspective as a pianist of over 40 years, I'm always humbled by the astonishing capabilities of the great players and try to appreciate the diversities in their approaches though of course I have my own favourites. As the new crop of artists emerges one has to have some openness as they find their voice so as to embrace them (which is entirely irrelevant to this particular thread I know!). Regards from Sydney, Aust - Dave

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My favorite Beethoven Concerto will always be Zimerman

    • @Mohabpiano
      @Mohabpiano 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deldridg Indeed, we must all try to appreciate what every artist is bringing to a piece. I find it exhilarating that these works can sound fresh under the hands of emerging artists.
      But care must be taken, the recording industry led to a deviation from score pondering and a path towards mainstream renditions. The artist of today must consult the score and only the score, and only listen to other pianists to understand their different approaches, not in attempt to understand the piece itself.

  • @meowmeowcat6013
    @meowmeowcat6013 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is too Brahmsian, to be honest... 😂

  • @asaadnaeem4121
    @asaadnaeem4121 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is name this opera ???????????

    • @qalaphyll
      @qalaphyll 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      huh

    • @Populous3Tutorials
      @Populous3Tutorials 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      justin bieber - the shape of you

    • @dominicfiacco
      @dominicfiacco ปีที่แล้ว

      Beethoven's Emperor Concerto

    • @WEEBLLOM
      @WEEBLLOM ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dominicfiacco no it's not