COACH ANDREW TEACHES ME HIS SMOOTH TENNIS FOREHAND
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2020
- Thanks to Coach Andrew Gu for the smooth forehand instruction.
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I'm not great at tennis but I'll give my thoughts from learning in the past year:
Hitting the ball correctly is 10% arm and 90% feet/leg/torso movement and rotation. No matter what grip you have, you'll still be muscling the racket with all arm and elbow if you don't fix your foot work and unit turn fundamentals.
I also suffered from this issue for the longest time thinking that my arm was the problem. The moment I stopped swinging with my arm and started swinging with my legs, hitting the ball wasn't a struggle anymore.
Hope this helps.
Your 10% arm 90% body rotation save my arms. Many thanks! I will focus on strength exercise instead of hitting tennis.
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What Coach Andrew said about the non-hitting arm and "pushing" someone out of the way really helped. Now I can just remember to do it by thinking "Out of the way, people. I'm hitting a forehand here."
Biggest thing to work on here is starting your motion earlier so you aren't so rushed!! It is why Coach Gu keeps saying you are hitting late. Get the racquet up and body rotated (As Gu shows AT 4:04!) as soon as you know what side the ball is going to. At the moment you are only getting to the 4:04 position when the ball has already bounced your side, which is too late and makes everything else rushed after it! As soon as you do this you will already notice huge changes to your overall motion flow.
You want to be at full take back by the time the ball has bounced on your side.
Watch any pro frame by frame and it's a consistent thing you will see.. it's a generally safe rule that varies only a little bit depending on the pace and of the play. That's how to get a smooth motion; you want to slow it all down, and to slow it down you want to start earlier. :) FYI all us keyboard experts are benefited by being able to watch the video and pause and really isolate what is happening. Thanks so much for the content legends.
Great tips, thank you Coach Gu and excellent work Harry!
I like this this serie of video .please film more videos about teaching tennis techniques.good job
Thanks for posting technique videos, great channel
you forgot to switch on the mics. The audio is coming from the camera
Great tips - thanks!
Great video. Thanks for the info.
Coach Andrew brings his right leg through. That's how he gets around for the big follow through.
This helped me a lot. Noticed 4 things I can improve on.
I have watched many videos related to this subject and Andrew did a great job of reaching my learning style/ comprehension of mechanics far better than other channels. There are a few things you specifically did to help me actually learn the motion. First, I really appreciate that you actually showed dozens of swings instead of 97% instruction and only 3% swing examples. Stiffly, your camera man showed you from multiple angles. Thirdly, it wasn't the pro, Andrew hitting all of the shots, that way he could tell you and the viewer every time you did something wrong so the viewer could see proper timing vs late, leaning back vs forward momentum etc, long swing vs compact etc. If you have more teaching videos please maintain this type of instruction. Thank you so much.
keep chasing it...looking good!!!
very nice , very simple,
Great video. Like the focus on balance.
Nice lesson. I'm going out with my ball machine now. Thanks!
Thanks for the excellent lesson, the grip is more like eastern, I noticed a lot more pro are using it nowadays to hit flatter shot and not as much spin, to end the point quicker.
Good job Harry! Your progress was easy to see...
You should do this more often Harry needs a lot more lessons.. lmao way to go Coach Andrew.
Excellent video
Had to adjust my eyes with that GIANT Wilson tennis racquet in the back next to the roller at 3:18
Can you and Coach Andrew do a video on the split step?
Gu the guru
You may want to set the ball machine at slower pace and focus on hitting the ball in front. Most of your shots are rushed and late. Just my observation. Great channel! Thanks for free lesson videos!
His shots are rushed because he´s not doing any split step.
@Gt 86 Why not? He´s not doing it too bad either.
Miguel Barahona actually it’s pretty terrible
@@jackeddemon actually, I´ve seen worser ones.
Miguel Barahona sorry to hear that. Those swings must frustrate you
On Coach Andrews, grip , it looks like between a Eastern grip where knuckle is on the longer bevel (Federer) and a Semi Western, knuckle on bevel 2nd from top.
It's like watching myself before I got an overhaul on my technique. I used to muscle the ball like you do, and wondered why I had R shoulder problems, and my shots lacked pace and depth. The moment the ball leaves the ball machine, you should already turn your unit (upper trunk / shoulders) which will bring the racket back automatically. Learn the unit turn first and get that timing down.
That's my grip too! One tip to smooth out your stroke is to not swing, but to unload your body forward into the target like he does at 9:57 This allows your weight to move forward and hips to come through along with the racket simply by pushing off your loaded foot.
Andrew. Demo the slinger!
good one andrew, short take back, take the at 2o clock n follow thru
Nice drills.
Harry, Awesome content much appreciated! Please please keep it up. Love the in store AND on court content.
*** Andrew, could you PLEASE share your specs and set up with the Tennis Spin community? Looks like 2020 Ezone 98. Looks like you have a lot of lead at 3 and 9 and at the throat to add static weight w/o changing balance point. How much lead are you using for each area and is there any we can see? Are you using a leather grip? Also interested in your string type and tension. You have amazing technique, I m getting better jut watching you!
It's just standard 1/4" lead tape. 10cm = approx 1g. He's got 4 strips of about 7-8cm, so 3g-4g. Just try it for youself instead of just copying as everyone plays differently - its not difficult!
Nothing wrong with a classic long take back if its effective. Some players change grips, swing paths throughout a session. I like to equate it to a solid baseball pitcher who mixes up his pitches. I would look at this video as adding more to your arsenal, without limiting your options and sticking to what has worked for your game in the past.
Some of those shots you were changing your grip back to full western it looked like.
How much tension for string that good for forehand and slice player..? I did be happy if you'll can help me
Asking Coach Gu what gauge tennis strings do you like in your racquet?
I did see 4 for Harry also. Point left hand longer, he hits stronger when he turns more and releases that coil more. He needs to maintain eye contact on the ball longer at impact (not where ball is going) . Split step could be more pronounced. Ok 5 like to see his follow through go further around. Andrew man did Harry ever pick up your tips quick. That only means one thing. Awesome coaching 👍
Question - coach andrew does something with his wrist after contact. It breaks. Is that just his follow thru or is he using his wrist during contact?
Which courts are these? They look similar to the Channing Courts in Berkeley.
great content!! very similar to federer & good account for the environment you're hitting in
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I noticed that you always went back to your old extreme grip before you you started your back swing which you also initiated too late. And you have not turned enough / brought your left shoulder to the front.
What version of ezone does Andrew use?
Faster unit turn and quicker split step based on machine ball speed.
I don't wanna be that guy but it doesn't seem like your lavs are working at all. Are you recording externally or direct to the camera?
How about an earlier unit turn?
Great video. one thing that Coach Andrew does diffferent than the student, "tennis spin" is that he doesn't lay the racquet back like petting the dog., though the results seem effective. Gu uses more body and smooooooth follow through.
Nice FH Coach Andrew also nice blue racket.
Which one would you pick, ezone 98 or ezone 98 tour (looking for more controllable racket)? Please advise. Thanks.
Tbh I have no experience with Yonex rackets but the Tour (with the extra 10 grams) is going to help with keeping the frame more stable than the 98. Generally, a heavier racket will help with control if the headsize is the same.
(For reference I currently use the Wilson Ultra Tour 95CV at 344 grams)
what's that grip coach Gu use?
Looks like mine with the swim move with left hand. Lol.
Nice video. Im no pro. But my recommendation is to use less arm. A smooth shots are more or less effortless. In the video, sure it looks like you are a tiny bit late. That can be corrected the more balls you hit. The more important things here is to use your lower body more than your arm. If you coil and go lower. Then uncoil as you hit the shots. It will feels smoother. Be flexible and relax a little. Good job!
That’s true, because you’ll have more stability from your legs pushing against the ground. I’ve tried just standing upright and then using weight from the legs and there are drastic differences
is his grip Eastern forehand like Fed?
Need to split step when hitting. Forehand: Stand on the toes, split step, turn the right foot out to the right and that'll turn the upper body with the left hand still on the racquet, do not let the left hand go off the racquet yet. Then as the right hand takes the racquet back, only then the left hand leaves the racquet and points to the front for balance. Ball comes, move in and hit. The right foot turn is very critical to smoothen out the stroke.
Harry you gotta get that racquet back quicker. It's really holding you back. The ball is bouncing and you haven't started it back half the time. Early prep in drill will fix all those late strikes
Looks like Andrew has a bit of lead tape on his racquet. Do you know how his racquet is specced? Thanks.
When n how do you probate?
Do you recommend extending in the direction of the target?
If you’re talking about pronation on the forehand, you are at maximum supination when the racket flips back and pronation starts on the forward swing and is then is naturally exaggerated after contact on follow through. The pronation is never forced and only happens as a result of the swing path, it’s more of an unwinding from a supinated position.
Dude hits forehands with his hands, then arm, then shoulder, and that's about it.
There's very minimal shoulder turn in his stroke, basically hitting every shot rushed like a return of serve, mostly arm and still rotating the grip and torso going backwards after the stroke. Recipe for tennis elbow. Create the flow and the power by feeling like the left shoulder almost points to the incoming ball along with some knee flex, like at 9:50.
I thought 'frying pan' was semi-western? I think Andrew is eastern grip without realizing it
It´s funny, many great players don´t know the name of the grips they use. Or simply they don´t care about it. Check Nadal or Becker teaching videos and they only refer to "more closed" or "more open" grips.
@@miguelbarahona6636 yeah these terms are for nerds :D
@ 21stCentury Andrew´s index knuckle is almost on the corner of bevels 3-4 (between eastern and semiwestern), but look how much he extends his index finger (2:23), that makes you naturally close more the racket´s head. Tennis Spin guy doesn´t spread his index finger (12:00) as much as Andrew, so his racket face doesn´t close as much.
It definitely looks eastern or modified semiwestern to me, just like Federer. "One over" from continental is eastern. I even think his stroke looks compact like Federer's, with a relatively small loop.
Looks like a half-a-bevel turn from Continental, so wouldn't that be "semi Eastern"?. Not quite the full bevel turn from Conti to Eastern, much less the 1.5-bevel turn from Conti to Semi-Western. Not that the name really matters, though. Nice timing and swing path.
Back in the ‘70’s that grip was called Australian. 1 bevel to the right off continental before eastern.
One of the most compact swings I've seen.
is gu s grip semi western or eastern ?
It’s funny you said “I’m an 80’s guy, I’m holding a flying-pan grip (extreme semi-western) for my forehand”. It should be the opposite 😆 I’m actually about your age, I did started playing in the 80’s. I’m holding my FH grip “conventionally” like Pete Sampras.
And my jacked up forehand ALSO NEEDS SOME HELP!!! Thank you for this video. I'll be studying it and practicing Coach Andrews' instructions. Thank you for this video!
What is with all that lead tape in the inside throat of your racquet. Is that to make it heavier without affecting the balance?
Yes.
Ok, am I crazy, or isn't coach Andrews grip just an eastern forehand, a la Pete Sampras?
yep modified eastern like fed
Yes
Yes, the only correct forehand grip in modern tennis.
Lost faith in him then, for calling it a semi western.
Looks like index knuckle is on the edge between eastern and semi western
Tennis Spin. You are missing the first part: the split step. You didn´t do any. That´s why sometimes you are rushed in your stroke. That is a problem that I see with people that use the ball machine, they wait for the ball flat-footed. Thanks for this series of on-court videos.
This guy, even though middle aged, in incredibly strong. The forehand is still all arm, but the pace he's generating is amazing. Takes about 20 sessions to move over to a new stroke.
You don't have enough of a shoulder turn; I'd fix that first.
First, he must do the split step. Then unit turn.
One of many things wrong
Prepare earlier (react) and turn the upper body more. Your shot it to jammed and compact. The ball is bouncing and you’re not quite back and ready to hit
The racquet needs to be back waiting for the ball before it lands on your side of the court. Then can you move forward as you swing in time and pounce on the ball.
I'd prefer coach Andrew feeding balls by hand to focus more on the stroke, not in the speed or direction of the ball. Then is better to move towards the ball and hit, instead of waiting for it in the middle of the court. Last, shoulders position is the key to hit a good forehand, so you need to work with progressive exercises, making sure you are following those key positions. Greetings from Argentina!
His anxiety made him forget the pushing his racket to the side phase.
seems like he stops for a split sec to emphasise the lag
Hi ! Coach Andrew , I am also a Lawn Tennis coach in India. so I just want to know about which tennis racket and which tennis strings for beginner's tennis players , both are less than twelve year's age.
Thanks.
If you're a coach you should know this yourself.
need a bigger sock! the sound is not to great, but good content!
I feel like yonex ezone sales may go up a little
Im jealous you get to live and play in SF! I love that city. Wish I could hit with y’all when I come to town. 5.0 lever here but getting older play more like 4.5 😂
It only gets worse. Time to start playing pickleball 👨🏼
@@poida007 nah I don’t care for pickleball but I see why some people play it
@@tonygareth221 you'll revist that in a few years give or take. Tennis is a horrible game when you lose footspeed, mobility and flexibility.
That's why pickleball is booming and tennis is in serious decline with over 40 crowd.
Coach Andrew Gu, not breaking down drills to simplify your smooth forehand stroke. Such as, with late split step n prepping with left hand coiling. You would be doing that asap; as the ball come out of the machine/off your opponent racquet, you are already mid air in decent to land for the split step, at this point you will decide its forehand or backhand as you land. That is a break down of the drill. Then next drill, is prepping the forehand. You would, lead the left hand outstretched (if u r a righty) to help the racquet in ready position by initiating the coiling of the body towards the side fence of tennis. Ofcourse pivoted n knee bent foot work as your ready position is the next drill. Then add more little drills one after another, then connect them all to one continuous smooth motion by repetition is how our natural way of learning and improving. Good luck with your trainings everyone
I'd fix his timing, which is, imo, the most important in tennis swing for a beginner. Every coach should understand that.
Harry, you never turn your front shoulder/ never closed.
You taking the racket back to late and having to swing faster when the ball bounces
I agree, if you take racquet back sooner he would be able to coil more and then actually perform lag while not looking so rushed. Good content for people that want to hit with a semi-western which is a good compromise between spin and power and expanded strike zone.
Agreed. Unit turn is way too late. I think you're waiting for the ball to bounce to start the stroke. As soon as you know you're going to hit a FH, you should already start coiling.
You may need loose your arm, extend back more for preparation and split steps.
YES! Gimme dat forehand knowledge, son!
Interesting how everyone goes semi-western, coach Gu went modified eastern. I agree modified eastern is more versatile but you need to an advance player in order to fully utilize this grip.
No unit/shoulder turn and no racquet drop. Pretty sure you are hitting a flat ball. Watch Andrew's video of turn, drop, lag and hit. Beautiful and seems to be a great young man.
the upper part of the student body looks like a rock. Too stiff doesn't now allow to be fluid and effortless (as coach andrew) the student makes reference at the beginning
That grip kinda looks like modified eastern
Remove some lead tap off the racket for better control.
You should make a video where you’re playing points. That way we could see how you play.
Andrew you have an excellent forehand, suggest your student prepares a little earlier, steps more into the stroke and rotates his shoulders a little more, great improvement though.
Nice video. But please sort the microphone out !
14:38 Ouch! My face!
Love all your content...I have wondered about Harry's forehand too..he looks jammed all the time...you are NOT turning your upper body/shoulders like Coach Gu.from Coach Mark in NC
still going back to the western grip, and racket back way too late very shot
1:20 - I see a lot of Andy Murray in yours
Immediately proceeds to talk like Andy Murray
Get under the ball more and early and hit thru the ball! Knee bend. Just do side by side video comparison and you’ll see the difference.
good content, but the bad quality of audio makes this difficult and tiring to watch. I think you mics were not installed correctly tbh^^
Yonex racquet and pink overgrip... My guy. Lol
Timing is a bit off here. Start slow but earlier like water, get ready (like Andrew said) before the ball bounce off the ground. At bounce, if you are ready, everything is forward. You are late because you pause just bit too long, at ball bounce, you racket is still dropping and moving back, so your forward motion is abrupt and jerky, you do hit it with lots of power because you are strong, but it lacks smoothness and accuracy.
The number one reason why that coach has a nice forehand is how loose his hand and wrist is throughout the motion. Notice at the follow through how relaxed le wrist is, naturally letting the racquet head finish in front and then drop down. There is no tension, and that's what allows the racquet to accelerate. Contrast that with the pupil, who completely locks his wrist from the end of the take back to the contact to the follow-through, resulting in a cramped motion where the racquet actually decelerate. Also, the ball is hit slightly too late. If he just focused on taking the ball a bit earlier and keeping his hand and wrist relaxed, the forehand would improve markedly. Forget anything else.
Yeah fair points. Tennis Spin hits a much nicer ball when he lets go of the tension in the his arm and lets the racquet flow just through the swing.