Tbh I’m actually happy glock doesn’t stray too far from what it’s good at. We need more companies to just be good at something and keep doing that thing.
Right.. And how many people own a Colt manufactured AR15 or 1911? Being "good" in a market where your competitors have 90% parts compatibility with you isn't that great. Glock is quickly just becoming another option when someone is shopping for a "Glock". I have 7 "Glock" frame pistols and none of them are from them. They are literally competing with themselves and the rest of the firearms market.
@@midnightfenrir you're not paying attention. Not at all. Compare a Gen 1 Glock v. a Gen 5 Glock. They are significantly different. Much more than cosmetically, for that matter, compare a Gen 2 against a 4. Compare what Glock had in the market in 1992 to now. The number of models and the choices of calibers. None of the imitators come close, the big boys like Sig, HK, etc. produce choices. Canik? Now there's a one-trick pony. Actually, now calibers are mentioned, how readily do any of these imitators produce anything in .40, .357Sig, .45ACP, 10MM, and .380? Few, very few, produce anything other than 9mm and the imitators have innovated nothing. As a matter of fact, many of them have devolved into imitating other imitators. Glock is well run. Comparing them to Colt is tragically inaccurate. Colt? Well something must be in their drinking fountain because they have an otherworldly capacity to screw up everything they touch. Their 1911s are their "safe place."
Companies that dont innovate always die out. It doesnt matter how good their products used to be, in the face of innovative competition, they'll always lose.
To be fair, even though FN is a shitheaded company, they do at least make cool shit still unlike the other three. You can't tell me you wouldn't bust one over an FiveSeveN, a P90, a SCAR, or an F2000, or even the new Hi-Power at your local gunstore. The difference is the only one of FN's guns we can comfortably afford is something like a fucking FNX.
@Rad Dad Smith does new shit, Taurus does new shit, Springfield does new shit, Sig is making new shit all the time to the dismay of their followers. HK doesn't do new shit, but they explained why recently in a video from 1911 Syndicate.
So true, however, you have to give them "Some" credit for copying Timneys design in Glock's new "Glock Performance Trigger." It's literally a much cheaper copy that achieves the same thing.
What else can be done until the ammo changes? The M&P, the CZP10, are just striker fired polymer guns but they don’t get any grief for “muh innovation”
@@MattiasTheMerc Because CZ doesnt just make different variations of the P10. Literally every glock is the same gun just different size/caliber...they havent been inovated since they first hit the market lol
@@alastor8091 Why not ? It’s kinda like when someone asks how many guns do you have? And you don’t have any idea but you do know it’s always 1 less than you need.
I like my G17 Gen5. I do not like my wife's G26 9mm. Gen4. Lol it is just too small. She loves it though because of her small hands. I actually like my STK100 as well. No issues since I bought it last year. I definitely agree, Glocks are reliable, that's for sure. That's why I threw $549 down for the 26 and $539 (price match) for my 17.
Man stands up, and uncomfortably states in front of the group, in a circle of chairs; "Hello, my name is (insert name here), and I'm a Glockaholic." Sound familiar? I own the Glocks 17MOS, 19, 19x, (2 actually), 20, 21, 26, 30, 34MOS, 42, and 43x,,,so far. They all shoot flawlessly, and I have had very literally no malfunctions after a 30+ year career, and much recreational shooting thereafter. And, I could have easily done that same 30+ years, with only the 17 (or the 21), and the 43x. Yes, I have been "Glockinated". New, "cool" models would come out, and I'd buy it. Had I been neighbors with Tim, I'm thinking I would have saved a lot of my money for other things!
I think one of my favorite things about Glock is that they make great aftermarket replacement parts for so many great pistols like shadow systems, the Dagger, and Zev.
Finally! And they said it couldn’t be done. Glock perfection has been perfected, again. Some could argue that theres too much perfection now. Excessive perfection actually, to a dangerous level.
Great Video and your 100% correct, I personally will shoot any gun at the range but to carry for my safety , Glock is my only carry. I am a retired LEO and not a gun smith. What i've seen from my old agency and other cops walking around with other brands. I made the right choice from the begining and it will stay the right choice until my end. Thanks for your opinion and this is mine. All the best.
Steyr was one of the first companies to use a rotating Barrel in a pistol at least. I do agree that if blocked did come out with a gun with a rotating Barrel action, that would be very sweet. If you ever shot a Beretta PX Storm you would like it because it has a lot less recoil or at least felt recoil and they're really accurate. Langdon tactical makes all kinds of cool stuff for the PX Storm by Beretta so if you're interested in that you ought to look there cuz they've got that Tech down pat. There is another company that makes a gun with a rotating Barrel that I can't think of his name right now. It's actually a more popular brand but I just can't think of it it's weird but anyway Google it I'm sure you'll find it. But to the Glock, that was the only interesting caveat of this whole episode.
You got my hopes up that Glock might have finally done something mildly ground-breaking as far as Glock goes. I was constantly thinking, what could it possibly be, as you disassembled it. Lol Great video, though.
1:30 - You had me going. I was thinking "Innovation? From Glock?! Seriously?!" Dang dude. I was completely fished in. The Glock 47 - The Glockiest Glock that ever Glocked.
@@scott8908- Don't be silly. Glock is known for making two things: excellent handguns and military grade Tupperware. I think railguns are a bit beyond them. But seriously, I didn't know what to expect. I was hoping to be pleasantly surprised. Maybe, something new in polymer compounds for a lighter, stronger frame? Or perhaps improved, high visibility, no-snag sights, or maybe a quick detachable mount for optics? Maybe, even fully reversible ambidextrous controls? Something... ANYTHING. As a proud owner of a G17 and G34, and former owner of a two G21s and two G26s, I can honestly say that a Glock is a Glock, is a Glock, is a Glock, and so far, nothing more, but also nothing less.
Wow! You get the same amount of barrel on the glock 19 that you would get if you bought a threaded barrel for it, and all for the price of a new gun!! So innovative!
The distance between the front sight and rear sight of G19 slide and G17 is so small that I have no clue how it would make a difference. The "commander" size Glocks are the best.
@@soonerfrac4611 to be clear, the US Border Patrol, 🚓 the largest(by sworn agents, staff) federal LE agency with the documented 🗃 FY highest rate of lethal force incidents NEVER got any new Glock 47 9x19mm guns? 0? DHS has a few large LE units: CBP, USCIS, Secret Service, FAMs 🛩. I never read or saw any reports of sworn federal CBP not carrying Glock 47s. I DO know the USAF, OSI(criminal investigations) chose new gen 5 Glock 19s MOS. They like the US Coast Guard were not impressed by the M18 or 320.
I love these satirical videos that occasionally come out; due to his inflection, I knew within about 5 seconds what to expect here . My other favorite satire, is the episode where he has 10+ attachments on his AR-15 & it helps him shoot out to 1,500 yards using just the laser's dot !
THANK YOU TIM, for being the voice of reason! I was struggling to see the benefit of this offering, and now you have put into words what I was feeling!
Had a guy last week trying to sell me one at a gunshow, until I said 'it looks like every other glock' and then he just said 'Yeah' and I moved on, Still I give him an A for his effort.
I carried a Gen2 31 for 20 years. Still one of my favorite guns 26k+ rounds later. It just works. 80% of those rounds were 9mm through a conversion barrel because, well, 357Sig was never inexpensive. But I still carry it in cold weather with 147gr HST or Gold Dot. Something to be said for near 357Mag power with 16 rounds on tap. I bought on of the P80 Glock factory reproduction models just to have it. I have Gen4 40 & 41 MOS models. They just work. I traded ammo to get a G34 Gen5. Honestly, maybe I got a factory accident. It runs with my Sig Legion X-Five. And it's only minuses are the Glock trigger (which is fine to me) and 1982 spec 21' plastic sights (on a target pistol in 2023). The fact I have 50+ extended mags for AR 9mm make it an easy choice given it works so Glockishly well.
You can rely on most other brands ootb as well, just as much as Glock. HK, Walther, Steyr, Sig, SW, CZ, Rex, you name it. There's nothing special about Glocks any longer. Apart from the shit, to me, grip angle and the objectively worst in class trigger. That's special.
Not all of us are gun collectors, looking for the latest coolest thing that guntubers try to sell. Glocks are tools that do damn good job for their intended purpose, and have been doing it for decades.
I find it interesting that the lowest velocity out of the shorter 19x was 1032 fps, but the longer G47 only got velocity above that once in 4 rounds. I know it's all within the margin of error for ammo, not really significant difference, and anecdotal with a small sample size. But, to me, it's still interesting nonetheless.
This is insane... this tech is at least 30 years in advance with its ingenuity. The wizards at Glock have looked into their crystal balls and once again shaped the fate of the entire globe.
@@jeffreycarlson8723 That's just unimaginative conjecture my friend, they may be dormant and in their splendid slumber rejuvenating themselves, but the Glock wizards do indeed still exist.
I personally hope Glock never changes. Let’s all remember that Glock did what was asked of them from the DHS. Did we need it in the civilian market? Hell yeah the more the merrier brother. I I’m a sub for your channel. You channel is actually one of the few that’s not just silly antics and shooting fruit and veggies. With that being said, last I check Glock is in the business of not only manufacturing but also meeting contract requirements. This pistols was made back in 2019. New to the civilian market yes but Glock didn’t just make this gun and take it to the DHS however it was the other way around. I’m not mad at Glock at all for this one. I ain’t mad at ya either MAC. I’m a huge fan bud. Keep it up Devil.
I own 22 Glocks including the Glock 46. The 47 recoils less than a 19. Glock has discontinued the 17, replacing it with the 47. I own three Daggers two are jamomatics
I've looked into the 47 and largely came to the same conclusions but with your title, I'm like "wait. What did I miss? Is this possible??" Well played...
I picked my G19 gen 5 because of its reliability and don't fix whats not broken mentality. My son has other guns that are nice and fun to shoot but I want reliability to protect my loved ones. Nothing wrong with old just like me
Just bought the CZ SC a month ago I like the idea of having a 4.5 in barrel in a compact frame. I don't have to mention it shoot s like a dream...Its a CZ 😉
@@Jscot1001 To be honest...I've wanted a 2nd P10C however recently saw them on sale for 399.00 and with the 50.00 CZ rebate they ran last month I couldn't pass up a P10 for 350.00
I see your point but also see why they don't change. They don't make guns to be fun or interesting or good for competition. They made a fighting pistol that simply works, which is what the major target audience of soldiers and cops really need. Everyone else can make the cool new "race guns" or super modular systems or whatever that come with quirks or hiccups. I hope Glock sticks to making simple and robust fighting tools like they do.
The Glock G19 Gen 5 was the fourth hand gun I bought. Out the box I shot it better than the previous three that included a Smith Wesson Sigma series, the Beretta PX4 Storm and the IWI Jericho 941. The Glock G19 is not a challenge to maintain or shoot well and is versatile. Except for the sights, the G19 is stock while the other three required much tuning.
Got plenty of Glocks. Carry one for work, but I also have a Shadow Systems. The 200 round break in is because it has tighter tolerances, unlike the Glocks. The difference between a precision gun and a well made one.
Glock 47 Benefits : Added weight to help reduce some recoil , the sight radius is longer,which may help improve acuracy . Also shorter grip can improve concealed carry options for some people
The grip length is the hardest part to conceal, imo the "x" series like the 19x make the least sense for carrying. I have no quarrel with a Longer slide Longer sight radius does make a nominal improvement
While I don't like it, a lot of people I've talked to say they like a longer slide for AIWB because it offers more leverage with the wedge/pillow to keep the grip closer to the body.
If you can find one, get a Radian Ramjet+Afterburner for your 19/45. The compensator gives extra length to the slide similar to a 17. Plus you get a comp.
I only have a glock 19 (non mos). The 47 was a welcome surprise cause now I have 4 variants. Yea, it is a bit gimmicky, but it is nice to save some $ and have the modularity.
For anyone who wants a 19 frame with 17 slide and doesn't want to spend $700, Brownells has a 19LS (Long Slide) for Gen 3 pistols with barrel for about $250. Add in the slide parts and shipping and you're looking at $350ish shipped. That seems to make more sense than buying the 47 for $700, particularly as either way you have to get or already have the 19 lower.
The Glock 47 has been underwhelming. I have had numerous agents trade in 47s for 19s. I have not had a single agent trade a 19 for a 47. I do agree, the Glock 45 is the sweet spot for a duty handgun. Great review MAC, and so true about Glock innovation.
To me, the G17 is a "duty" sized gun. If agents or police can't handle the G17, give em a 19. IF ones agency or department is utterly and completely married to 9x19 Para, that is. To me, the short slide+long grip or long slide+short grip concepts are a big yawn. As per what little value both concepts bring to the table, in a handgun. If one is carrying a handgun concealed, in plain cloths? The longer grip WILL print under minimal garments...but so will a G19 WITH a longer slide....given the garment type and wearers body size/shape. Which with today's fashions may or may not be that big of a deal for some. To me I'd much rather have saw Glock put the development money into things like a better trigger, better cartridge case support on the barrel for EVERY model Glock produces, and finding ways to stuff bigger than 9m cartridges...intoxicated an envelope that's just slightly bigger than a G19 , 17, or G43x. It's seems like Glock could do this with their G48 line. As it would probably be the perfect vehicle for a .45 ACP or 10mm platform, if made only a few thousandths bigger. And yes. I'm fully aware of Glocks G22/23 and G20/21 pistols and their compact brethren What I'm talking about though, is a gun that chambers a better than 9mm cartridge....in something much less bulky and chunky than Glocks current non-9mm stable line up that was developers of in the early 1990's. Also, there are Glocks TRUE sub compacts to think on. The G43 and G43X. The G43 is not much better than a .38 snub to me. Too small mag capacity combined with too small dimensions overall. And the G43X is ok, but a non-starter when one can get more on board ammo cap in an equally small gun from somebody else. However, to the G43X' credit. It seems to sometimes fit a broader variety of people's hands better than say a Springfield Hellcat or Sig P365 series. As far as length of grip goes
@@bertito43 That is entirely possible, but your PFI can and should request more from Harper's Ferry. Even if they need to send back their excess 47s to do it and stil maintain their 5%.
@@ravenrise320 You bring up some good points. I can't think of any Federal Agencies that don't issue duty weapons, and for better or worse, the vast majority of those are now married to the 9mm. The Border Patrol wanted cross compatibility for their pistols for their own reasons and that is what they are stuck with now. It's not necessarily a bad thing to have choices, but for the most part the 47 does nothing better than a 19 except bring along 2 extra rds. We could debate ad nauseum about caliber choices and benefits/drawbacks, but these agencies don't get a choice on that, so there is no point.
@@BillyBob-ov5ef that’s good info to know and I honestly didn’t know about it. I’ll reach out again to my firearms department and bug them some more. Thanks!
Go thought the channels to get here. The process of going to a gun store isn’t as easy as our government makes it out to be. It’s easier to answer 7 questions at the gas pump before pumping gas than it is to walk out of a brick and mortar with a gun in 10 mins 🤣
Some people do carry a 19 with an TLR1 HL or X300 which is fine, but at that point, why not just put the 17 length slide on a 19 that has a longer light on it? If you carry a 19 with a longer light, having the 17 length slide on it won't affect draw whatsoever as the 17 slide wouldn't go past the light anyways.
Well said indeed sir, I’m a Glock guy, G26/gen 5 with all stock parts, stock and G19/G17 mags with grip extensions + big stick, three pistols in one, no need for all the rest, fully versatile and concealable. No problem with accuracy either.
I have to say this. For the newer gun owners this is a great option. If you own a Gen 5 g19 and now buy this g47 you get 3 different style guns while only buying 2 guns.
I got the Gen 5 19 a few weeks back. Absolutely love it, huge upgrade from the Gen 3. Getting the 47 next so I can have the following options: 19 lower, 47 upper; Glock “19L” 47 lower, 19 upper; Glock 45 47 lower, 47 upper; improved Glock 17
@@B8BBB8B88BB8 Lol I hear you. It’s a different strokes kind of thing. I want something that I can buy parts for and use the shit out of. When something breaks I can fix it in a couple of minutes
I appreciate your Candor , I was a Glock guy for a long time because I was a LEO and that’s what we used which was much better than the Beretta M9 we used in the army. I finally broke free and now have a Walther PDP which is modular in the slide and barrels . Night and day difference .
@@jasestrong maybe it’s just a Marine Corps thing then? I know a lot of Marines trashed the M9A3, but that’s because what they were issued were worn out and parts weren’t maintained properly. I have an M9A3 and I love it
Not to argue, but a simple point. Not a Glock fanboy either, but for the same reason I drive Toyota pickups here in Alaska I drive Glocks also. Speaking of modularity. Thanks to the aftermarket I can take my Glock 22 and switch a barrel and it becomes a Glock 31. I then put in another different barrel and it becomes a Glock 17. Three calibers, one gun. How modular do you want to be?
I'm a fan of Glocks as they are and have been. I carry one every day. My favorite is my gen 3 19. There's other models I like too. When the 43 came out I got one, then I got a 48. The thin frame fits my hands very well. I bought a couple of the Shield Arms 15 round magazines. Perfect for me. Having the 43 and 48 also allows me to swap frames and slides, I like that. Still, the trusty old 19 is by far my favorite pistol.
I always felt like I found the magic combo on this for a true do it all ccw..... Glock 26 gen 4 with an extended threaded barrel, and 15-17 round magazines with grip extensions.. If I wanna go as concealable as possible switch back to short barrel and 10 round magazines.... It works well for travel, and I can carry differently depending on the situation with one gun. Tritium Ghost ring sight instead of red dot on that one so I can keep it as concealable as possible but still have a sight I can pick up tremendously quickly.... It's my work horse...
I have been evaluating a purchase of a Glock versus a PSA dagger. Since I am not in the military or law enforcement, my use of the pistol will be limited to range shooting. I assessed the likelihood that I will need to use this gun in home defense to near zero considering that I have four other hand guns, and don't expect a home invasion any time soon (you never know, but suffice it to say that they will not get the welcome wagon). So in light of that, as long as the weapon feels good, you can shoot it accurately, and it's reliable when you need it, who cares about the brand name? It's the price that matters as, if you never need to kill anyone, it's a five hundred dollar paperweight sitting in a drawer. On the other hand, if it's your only defensive handgun, choose the most reliable one you can find. And in that case, Glock is the gold standard which is why so many in law enforcement carry them. I disagree with the assertion that Glock needs to make an 'un-Glock'. If that is the case, and I was Glock, I would start a second company (not named Glock), and work on 'moon shot' guns so the Glock reputation does not get caught up in that 'arms race'. Let's let Glock be Glock.
I like the consistency of my Glocks. They all basically look the same and operate the same. I can pick any of them up and don’t have to think about where anything is. Big thing for me is that when you pull the trigger on an empty chamber, the trigger stays back. You can see from across a room that the gun is safe. I don’t have to wonder if there is a round in the chamber when the trigger is back. Mentioned that to hickock45 once, and he agreed with me and said that he doesn’t know of another gun that does that. I own sigs and other hand guns, but they are range guns only. Guess I’m one of those people that don’t need/want new stuff whenever something new that comes out. I like consistency, therefore Glocks will always be my main handguns.
Same here. Always drives me nuts when a company discontinues a perfectly good product just to try to get more attention. Glocks are effective, reliable, & reasonably priced, and they sell a buttload of them for precisely those reasons.
Pick between the 19 and 48 based on your hand size. If you got smaller hands like my baby momma, 48 is your best bet. If you got big hands like me, 19 is the way to go. Even 17 if you’re comfortable with it
Glock is great for 1 thing, ease of maintenance. Glock hater’s complain about no real innovation since the first Glock came out, but the 1911 has seen no real innovation in over 100 years just slight tweaks same with the browning hi-power, sure there is the 2011 but it’s stupid expensive and rarely in stock. Personally as long as it goes bang when I need it to defend my life and my loved ones, innovation be dammed for all I care.
Just got me a Glock 45 mos, my first Glock & I have to say, I’m impressed. Though all the models look the same, you can’t please everyone on products. That’s why we all have opinions on what we want. If Glock doesn’t have what you want in a gun, another company will.
To quote another great gun channel about the velocity "Not enough difference to make a difference". As a big Glock fan I agree with you, they started out with a great design and basically stuck with it forever. I don't get why the 26 doesn't have a rail as one little example.
There were some tests done with a Walther on muzzle velocity from their polygonal Barrel with a step chamber. This was a test verse another gun of equal Coston reputation and so on but it was traditional rifling and consistently the Walther had faster muzzle velocities not huge like 30 or 40 or maybe a little more but Walter had made that claim that it had yunos 30 or 40 ft per second faster muzzle velocities due to its Barrel design and from some tests that were done it absolutely does do what it says and it does create or allow a little bit faster muzzle velocity from identical ammo shot from both the guns the Walther and I can't remember what the other one was. But the difference was not so insignificant that it was no difference That Matters to make a difference and we all love Paul Harrell so it's okay to mention his name I think he's great and probably most people here do as well but in this instance that doesn't apply in my opinion. I have to watch that video again of that test but the people doing the test agreed it was not an insignificant amount of gain did it was useful but you have to see it yourself I guess and decide on your own. But I thought it was if nothing else an interesting experiment
My EDC for years has been a 32L. Basically a 31 slide on a 32 frame. I’ve carried it almost 10 years now. Lone Wolf used to make the conversion for the 19/23/32 pistols, but they went downhill a few years back. Can’t get the stuff anymore.
I was really hoping the Glock 47 would fire a new caliber like 5.7, have a different type barrel for better accuracy, or at least something new to the table. While I like Glock's ridiculous modularity, it's also became one of the reasons they innovate the least out of the big gun manufacturers.
One of the reasons I've gravitated more towards Glock is the fact that GLOCK USA is located in my back yard and it makes sense logistically (service, parts, etc.). However, in the last few years, I've begun branching back out to SIG, HK and more recently FN. I agree that Glocks are the AK of the handgun world and often use that analogy myself. The lack of meaningful innovation compared to other major manufacturers is why I now spend more of my money on their competitors. I'm lucky enough to pay blue label prices and I still choose lately to pay more for a SIG 320, HK VP9, FN 509 MRD or 509C. Glock does have people who will be watching these videos and reading these posts but sadly the biggest changes on a Gen 6 will still be different grip texture or horizontal slide serrations...
What could glock do to be more innovative? Like SIgs 320 its modular and cool but I wonder how many actually switch grips and slides. So if you dont do that its a novelty. Biggest thing glock could do is grip and trigger. Which theyve finally addressed trigger.
I've been a LEO Firearms Instructor for over 20 years and I can honestly tell you that I have yet to see a GLOCK go down in any of my classes. Now every time a Sig P320 or P365 variant shows up to a class, problems galore (magazine issues, FTF, FTE etc) GLOCK may be a "one trick pony" like @mac likes to say but I also believe in "if it ain't broke...." In a life and death situation I'll take a reliable "one trick pony" over a maybe it might work "innovation". FYI, I own and issue as loaner guns in my classes Sigs, S&W, Beretta.
Couldn’t agree more. This is why I came back to Glock after trying all those other pistols and experiencing some of these problems. Lots of Glock haters pretending not to hate Glock.
I have seen plenty of guys in competition using Glocks with aftermarket triggers, barrels, slides, frames, etc. The reliability goes completely out the window, and they become jam factories. I have never liked the grip angle of Glocks. Let the fan boys get angry.
I wonder what they are doing that causes the jams? I have thousands of rounds thru my 19x and I have had a pyramid flat trigger with 3.5lb kit since day 1...I bet I have experienced half a dozen jams in thousands of rounds and several years of carrying it around in the woods.
The glock 46 actually is an innovative pistol. Hope they'll eventually release it to us, but it honestly is pretty cool. Definitely different than the normal glock's Edit- made this comment within the first 2 minutes of the vid. Glad mac addressed the 46. Hope we get it one day.
@@dilldowschwagginz2674 they have though. We just can't get it yet. That was really my point. They definitely didn't do much innovating the 3 decades in between though. Not much denying that. Can't wait to get a 46 if they ever release them for civilian sale though.
The two times they really innovated didn't really go over like gangbusters. I'm thinking of G37/.45 GAP and the G42/43. G37 is a novelty with the proprietary ammo and the G43 had a single stack mag. Outside of being a Glock, it redefine the market like the Hellcat and P365 did some years later. Wasn't until then that they modified it into the G43x and still couldn't get the capacity.
They couldn't get the same capacity as the Hellcat or P365 because of the stupid polymer wrapped magazines. the .45 GAP failed because it was an answer to a problem that no one had. They created a cartridge to replace a cartridge that had been around (at the time) for 90 years. The problem being that the cartridge they designed wasn't any different except for being slightly shorter. No extra capacity, no extra performance, no extra anything... except for a slightly smaller frame (if it was chambered in something other than a Glock, I do believe Glock receivers actually came out being the same size as other .45 ACP frames... because of the stupid polymer wrapped magazines). So, yeah, when you try to replace something that is ingrained in a market with something else that is virtually identical there is a good chance that it will fail.
I got a G45 MOS with optics, suppressor sights, Timney trigger, etc., a stock G23, and G32 upper (357 sig). By mixing frames and slides I can get multiple sizes, optic options, calibers, triggers, etc. I might add a comp (or porting) to the 40 some day, would love to find a gen 5 357sig barrel so I could really mix it up. It'd be cool to have a 47 upper to mix it up even more with a true full sized length, but as you say, it's just not that much different....I'd much rather have frame, trigger, optic, barrel type options than a 0.50" extra length on the same gun.
I bought parts for 2 PSA Daggers for the price of 1 glock. They came with optic cuts, cheap magazines, supressor height lower 1/3 co-witness sights, threaded barrels, and I have not had a single malfunction from either of them, not even with my 3d printed magazines. Put an upgraded trigger spring kit in the 1st one I bought that came with the holosun...it fu**s hard. Love it.
Hahahaha. I put 13k to 14k rounds downrange a year with my Glocks. I own some PSA and I know they'll never take that unless I replace most of their parts with OEM Glock. Good luck😆
@@JD-tn5lz hahahaha! And how do you know that exactly? You can interchange parts with a glock you say (and I have as well), which is no surprise since the operating system is basically identical so it can't be design.....is there a heat treat issue with some components? Is the frame somehow inferior, are the polymers not up to par for the stress? What makes you KNOW the dagger won't hold up? Putting 14k rounds through a glock in a year won't tell you anything about a PSA dagger. All that says is you are flat out wasting ammunition and wearing out your gun at that point. Enjoy your over priced piece of plastic on your high horse, and best of luck.
I agree 100%. I was surprised how many folks lost their mind when the 19X was released as they wanted the long barrel/short grip and I couldn’t understand why they wanted it. The 19X (to me personally) is the best Glock I’ve ever owned because I’ve got extra large hands. But curious if all those folks that went internet mental will all start buying what they said Glock should have released in the first place. 🤷♂️
Completely agree. The 19X is the perfect size for me. It's part of my daily kit. I try swinging in other pistols now and then but the size, balance and overall feel can't be beat... for me.
in absence of a red dot, you absolutely do get better combat accuracy with longer slides, even at 10'. They're just faster to aim with, so within the same time window you aim better. But longer slides do make unholstering, especially in compromised positions, more difficult, so the net result is unclear.
The 47 slide on the 19 frame actually does give guys like me, some much needed advantages over the 19. When I carry appendix, with my fat gut, the 19 struggles for concealment. My gut shoves that handle way out and does more than merely print. It creates a whole shelf system coming off of my front that you can confidently set your beer on.... A good holster, with a decent wedge system, does help....a bit. But, I have to set it up deep, to have that wedge comfortably rest on my pelvic bone. A 17 meets the length requirements for me to have a higher handle, for a better initial grip on the....grip. But, the length of the grip and again, my fat gut, really makes the foot of that grip stick out quite bit. This is even with a good holster that attempts to twist the grip into the gut. The 47 slide, on a 19 frame, fixes all of these issues for me. It conceals better, wears more comfortably, and provides a better initial purchase with the grip and my hand than any other Glock solution. A gun that is more comfortable, and conceals better, is a gun that will be carried more.
I have a fat gut also and that's why I carry a SIG p365 in my pocket with a DeSantis pocket holster doesn't print, and it is very quick to draw, and I can all year round even with short's on and no shirt to pull up unless you open carry which is well stupid.
The only way the modularity of the Glock 47 makes sense to me is if it comes with both slides to be configured as you want if you have to buy a 19 to get the modularity just grab which ever gun you need when you need it. No need to swap slides.
Excellent video. I've been saying for years that Glock has literally been the same since the 80s in terms of innovation. Although I did just see a video where Glock Store brought to our attention that the Sig 365 X-Macro completely copied the Glock 43x........ like, you know, where your hand goes..... and since they completely copied the 43x, they finally succeeded in making the Sig "pointable" for the first time ever. LOL. In all seriousness, Glock would probably find it beneficial to copy Sig once in a while.
Of all the handguns Glock has ever made, this is definitely one of them
From the producers who saw the Oscar Awards.... 😁
LOL thank you Kamala...
so, you don't know anything about firearms I take it... stick to your mom's Daisy.
Truly a handgun of all time.
Clearly the most semi automatic Glock of all times.
Glock testing the bounds of brand loyalty.
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It’s getting real disappointing.
You're not going to have a really good so carry gun though the handles the hardest thing to conceal and you want a long barrel
Can’t improve on perfection!
I’m done… sold everything Glock related that I had in an attempt to erase it from my memory.
The first Glock "new release" video that I've ever found entertaining. Thanks for the humor.
still waiting for a Graham Baates video that's actually entertaining xD
@hijackbyejack1729 you'll either need to keep waiting, or learn to appreciate subtle and dry humor.
Digging on Glock for the 47 for most people is born out of ignorance.
So This is kind of subliminal sarcasm ? 🤔😮😂😂😂😂🤷🏻♂️
Still waiting on the baates video that is something more than bloviating and self promoting.
Glock competed against Glock and came in a close second. Well done, good job!
Tbh I’m actually happy glock doesn’t stray too far from what it’s good at. We need more companies to just be good at something and keep doing that thing.
Right.. And how many people own a Colt manufactured AR15 or 1911? Being "good" in a market where your competitors have 90% parts compatibility with you isn't that great.
Glock is quickly just becoming another option when someone is shopping for a "Glock".
I have 7 "Glock" frame pistols and none of them are from them. They are literally competing with themselves and the rest of the firearms market.
@@midnightfenrir you're not paying attention. Not at all. Compare a Gen 1 Glock v. a Gen 5 Glock. They are significantly different. Much more than cosmetically, for that matter, compare a Gen 2 against a 4.
Compare what Glock had in the market in 1992 to now. The number of models and the choices of calibers. None of the imitators come close, the big boys like Sig, HK, etc. produce choices. Canik? Now there's a one-trick pony.
Actually, now calibers are mentioned, how readily do any of these imitators produce anything in .40, .357Sig, .45ACP, 10MM, and .380?
Few, very few, produce anything other than 9mm and the imitators have innovated nothing. As a matter of fact, many of them have devolved into imitating other imitators.
Glock is well run. Comparing them to Colt is tragically inaccurate. Colt? Well something must be in their drinking fountain because they have an otherworldly capacity to screw up everything they touch. Their 1911s are their "safe place."
But Glock isnt , stock Glocks are subpar
@@JD-tn5lz who hurt your glock?
Companies that dont innovate always die out. It doesnt matter how good their products used to be, in the face of innovative competition, they'll always lose.
Between glock, remington, colt, and fn I love watching this arms race of who can do the least to earn their fan base since the cold war ended.
That's why I go with M&P
To be fair, even though FN is a shitheaded company, they do at least make cool shit still unlike the other three. You can't tell me you wouldn't bust one over an FiveSeveN, a P90, a SCAR, or an F2000, or even the new Hi-Power at your local gunstore. The difference is the only one of FN's guns we can comfortably afford is something like a fucking FNX.
Forgot Smith, Taurus, Springfield and Sig.
Not fair at all, Glock still delivers an excellent pistol that will last you a lifetime.
@Rad Dad Smith does new shit, Taurus does new shit, Springfield does new shit, Sig is making new shit all the time to the dismay of their followers. HK doesn't do new shit, but they explained why recently in a video from 1911 Syndicate.
Glock has been hitting that snooze alarm for decades
So true, however, you have to give them "Some" credit for copying Timneys design in Glock's new "Glock Performance Trigger." It's literally a much cheaper copy that achieves the same thing.
What else can be done until the ammo changes?
The M&P, the CZP10, are just striker fired polymer guns but they don’t get any grief for “muh innovation”
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
@@MattiasTheMerc Because CZ doesnt just make different variations of the P10. Literally every glock is the same gun just different size/caliber...they havent been inovated since they first hit the market lol
I love my snooze button!
Just ordered mine; looking forward to getting it on the range 😎
And I look forward to seeing you, in the next video.
✌️😎🇺🇸🍻
And like every gun, you’ll just make it seem like you’re shooting a cap gun! Seriously, you never display any recoil when you shoot! 😅
Bro, why? What does this gun do that another Glock wouldn't do? Slightly different dimensions.... does that really warrant another purchase?
@@alastor8091 Why not ? It’s kinda like when someone asks how many guns do you have? And you don’t have any idea but you do know it’s always 1 less than you need.
@@18wheeler77 Big hands, high grip, crush it like you are squeezing the life out of it.....not till your hands shake, but you get the idea.
I started with Glocks. Tried everything in between. My go to is still Glock. I pray Glock doesn't change much over the next few decades actually.
I like my G17 Gen5. I do not like my wife's G26 9mm. Gen4. Lol it is just too small. She loves it though because of her small hands. I actually like my STK100 as well. No issues since I bought it last year. I definitely agree, Glocks are reliable, that's for sure. That's why I threw $549 down for the 26 and $539 (price match) for my 17.
No need to improve whats perfect already
I don't get the hate. It's like going to a burger restaurant and then compaining there's no sushi. If you want something different then buy a pdp.
@@dangelini1137it’s close but not perfect lol
Man stands up, and uncomfortably states in front of the group, in a circle of chairs; "Hello, my name is (insert name here), and I'm a Glockaholic." Sound familiar? I own the Glocks 17MOS, 19, 19x, (2 actually), 20, 21, 26, 30, 34MOS, 42, and 43x,,,so far. They all shoot flawlessly, and I have had very literally no malfunctions after a 30+ year career, and much recreational shooting thereafter. And, I could have easily done that same 30+ years, with only the 17 (or the 21), and the 43x. Yes, I have been "Glockinated". New, "cool" models would come out, and I'd buy it. Had I been neighbors with Tim, I'm thinking I would have saved a lot of my money for other things!
"How many times do you think we can release the same gun without really changing anything?" -glock
And yet these ppl keep buying them lol
Next they will shorten the grip on the 19x and name it 19xs.
At least one more!
Honestly if it was a 17 slide with a 19 frame. It would have been atleast somewhat different
It's the Skyrim of handguns
I think one of my favorite things about Glock is that they make great aftermarket replacement parts for so many great pistols like shadow systems, the Dagger, and Zev.
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This comment is backwards. Those companies make aftermarket parts for Glock. Shadow and ZEV build their own guns now.
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Finally! And they said it couldn’t be done. Glock perfection has been perfected, again. Some could argue that theres too much perfection now. Excessive perfection actually, to a dangerous level.
Haha
Donald? Is that you?
LOL!
Great Video and your 100% correct, I personally will shoot any gun at the range but to carry for my safety , Glock is my only carry. I am a retired LEO and not a gun smith. What i've seen from my old agency and other cops walking around with other brands. I made the right choice from the begining and it will stay the right choice until my end. Thanks for your opinion and this is mine. All the best.
Wow that rotating barrel sounds super innovative, which is why Beretta has used for 20 years.
And probably does it a lot better!
Gotta say, I have a PX4 in . 40 and not too impressed with the recoil impulse. But mechanically it's a cool gun.
Check out the Steyr Hahn / M1912 they had a rotating barrel over 100 years ago.
Steyr was one of the first companies to use a rotating Barrel in a pistol at least. I do agree that if blocked did come out with a gun with a rotating Barrel action, that would be very sweet. If you ever shot a Beretta PX Storm you would like it because it has a lot less recoil or at least felt recoil and they're really accurate. Langdon tactical makes all kinds of cool stuff for the PX Storm by Beretta so if you're interested in that you ought to look there cuz they've got that Tech down pat. There is another company that makes a gun with a rotating Barrel that I can't think of his name right now. It's actually a more popular brand but I just can't think of it it's weird but anyway Google it I'm sure you'll find it. But to the Glock, that was the only interesting caveat of this whole episode.
He looks like older Chris Hemsworth
You got my hopes up that Glock might have finally done something mildly ground-breaking as far as Glock goes. I was constantly thinking, what could it possibly be, as you disassembled it. Lol Great video, though.
That’s what you call good clickbait. It works
Dude . . .
*I literally clicked on this because I knew it was going to be SARCASM.*
lol.
Wanted to see how bad it really was.
It was a good video but at least glocks quality has remained high, that has to count for something.
Hey, if it ain’t broke…
1:30 - You had me going. I was thinking "Innovation? From Glock?! Seriously?!" Dang dude. I was completely fished in. The Glock 47 - The Glockiest Glock that ever Glocked.
That's a glocktastic comment from a glocktacular person..glocktificly speaking
What “innovation” are you expecting exactly? Glock makes reliable carry guns. Do you want them to make a rail gun or something.
CLICK BAIT... Sad.
@@gimmedahhcookies4341 - Thank you very Glockfully!
@@scott8908- Don't be silly. Glock is known for making two things: excellent handguns and military grade Tupperware. I think railguns are a bit beyond them.
But seriously, I didn't know what to expect. I was hoping to be pleasantly surprised. Maybe, something new in polymer compounds for a lighter, stronger frame? Or perhaps improved, high visibility, no-snag sights, or maybe a quick detachable mount for optics? Maybe, even fully reversible ambidextrous controls? Something... ANYTHING.
As a proud owner of a G17 and G34, and former owner of a two G21s and two G26s, I can honestly say that a Glock is a Glock, is a Glock, is a Glock, and so far, nothing more, but also nothing less.
Wow! You get the same amount of barrel on the glock 19 that you would get if you bought a threaded barrel for it, and all for the price of a new gun!! So innovative!
LOL
The distance between the front sight and rear sight of G19 slide and G17 is so small that I have no clue how it would make a difference. The "commander" size Glocks are the best.
What an insane leap of faith on glock’s part. I’m impressed.
The irony is so thick, I could swim in it.
A Glock so good that the agency it was designed for *never* issued it. They all were issued the G19 only.
@@soonerfrac4611 to be clear, the US Border Patrol, 🚓 the largest(by sworn agents, staff) federal LE agency with the documented 🗃 FY highest rate of lethal force incidents NEVER got any new Glock 47 9x19mm guns? 0? DHS has a few large LE units: CBP, USCIS, Secret Service, FAMs 🛩. I never read or saw any reports of sworn federal CBP not carrying Glock 47s. I DO know the USAF, OSI(criminal investigations) chose new gen 5 Glock 19s MOS. They like the US Coast Guard were not impressed by the M18 or 320.
I do hope this is a sarcastic remark. Because this is the stupidest thing block is ever done. It's so lame
@@lawrencemay8726 I don’t understand. What do you mean?
I love these satirical videos that occasionally come out; due to his inflection, I knew within about 5 seconds what to expect here . My other favorite satire, is the episode where he has 10+ attachments on his AR-15 & it helps him shoot out to 1,500 yards using just the laser's dot !
THANK YOU TIM, for being the voice of reason! I was struggling to see the benefit of this offering, and now you have put into words what I was feeling!
Had a guy last week trying to sell me one at a gunshow, until I said 'it looks like every other glock' and then he just said 'Yeah' and I moved on, Still I give him an A for his effort.
I carried a Gen2 31 for 20 years. Still one of my favorite guns 26k+ rounds later. It just works. 80% of those rounds were 9mm through a conversion barrel because, well, 357Sig was never inexpensive. But I still carry it in cold weather with 147gr HST or Gold Dot. Something to be said for near 357Mag power with 16 rounds on tap.
I bought on of the P80 Glock factory reproduction models just to have it. I have Gen4 40 & 41 MOS models. They just work. I traded ammo to get a G34 Gen5. Honestly, maybe I got a factory accident. It runs with my Sig Legion X-Five. And it's only minuses are the Glock trigger (which is fine to me) and 1982 spec 21' plastic sights (on a target pistol in 2023). The fact I have 50+ extended mags for AR 9mm make it an easy choice given it works so Glockishly well.
Had two failure daggers out of the box. Recoil spring issues causing failures to feed.
Now, you’re just trying to ruffle some feathers. 😂
I’d still buy a Glock today over any other brand if I needed a pistol that I could rely on out of the box.
You must be to poor for an H&K.
@@cody8217 hallelujah! 🙌🏻
Plenty of brands work and work better out the box.. expand your mind and realize Glocks are overrated.. overpriced
@@cody8217 the h&k that's wants to take your guns
You can rely on most other brands ootb as well, just as much as Glock. HK, Walther, Steyr, Sig, SW, CZ, Rex, you name it. There's nothing special about Glocks any longer. Apart from the shit, to me, grip angle and the objectively worst in class trigger. That's special.
They should of just called it a 19L instead of the 47. I think it would of got better acceptance. Awesome video as always. Thank you.
Nothing glock does makes any sense.
Not all of us are gun collectors, looking for the latest coolest thing that guntubers try to sell. Glocks are tools that do damn good job for their intended purpose, and have been doing it for decades.
I find it interesting that the lowest velocity out of the shorter 19x was 1032 fps, but the longer G47 only got velocity above that once in 4 rounds. I know it's all within the margin of error for ammo, not really significant difference, and anecdotal with a small sample size. But, to me, it's still interesting nonetheless.
This is insane... this tech is at least 30 years in advance with its ingenuity. The wizards at Glock have looked into their crystal balls and once again shaped the fate of the entire globe.
Glock has no wizards.
@@jeffreycarlson8723 That's just unimaginative conjecture my friend, they may be dormant and in their splendid slumber rejuvenating themselves, but the Glock wizards do indeed still exist.
I've been carrying one for two and a half years. Never thought it was especially groundbreaking, but it works fine 🤷♂️
I love it how he instinctively knows the glock bois will be conspiracy theorists about the ammo so he picks random ones
I personally hope Glock never changes.
Let’s all remember that Glock did what was asked of them from the DHS. Did we need it in the civilian market? Hell yeah the more the merrier brother.
I I’m a sub for your channel. You channel is actually one of the few that’s not just silly antics and shooting fruit and veggies. With that being said, last I check Glock is in the business of not only manufacturing but also meeting contract requirements. This pistols was made back in 2019. New to the civilian market yes but Glock didn’t just make this gun and take it to the DHS however it was the other way around.
I’m not mad at Glock at all for this one. I ain’t mad at ya either MAC. I’m a huge fan bud. Keep it up Devil.
I own 22 Glocks including the Glock 46. The 47 recoils less than a 19. Glock has discontinued the 17, replacing it with the 47. I own three Daggers two are jamomatics
The 17 has not been discontinued. The MOS option was dropped and it's continued as a legacy weapon
I switched from my sig back to Glock(the 47 mos) . I always go back to Glock eventually they just work even though I’m bored of them
I love that this was announced, then as soon as the fanboys were almost drowning in their drool the G49 popped up...
I've looked into the 47 and largely came to the same conclusions but with your title, I'm like "wait. What did I miss? Is this possible??"
Well played...
All that you said about Glock may be true, but I’m going to keep on carrying it. Good video!
So is there is no function difference between 3" and 4" Barrel in 9mm?
I picked my G19 gen 5 because of its reliability and don't fix whats not broken mentality. My son has other guns that are nice and fun to shoot but I want reliability to protect my loved ones. Nothing wrong with old just like me
It’s true that Glocks aren’t exactly expensive, they only cost $75 to make. So at ~$600 they’re more expensive than they really should be IMO.
Glocks should be $350
@@GodGunsGills Glocks should be $200-$250 brand new. That's all they're realistically worth. $250 if they have a steel guide rod and sights.
You’re smoking crack if you think any gun is made with only $75 the real number is more like $150
@@813GC I got my number from an engineer at one of the firearms companies. Where did you get yours?
Just bought the CZ SC a month ago I like the idea of having a 4.5 in barrel in a compact frame. I don't have to mention it shoot s like a dream...Its a CZ 😉
@@Jscot1001 To be honest...I've wanted a 2nd P10C however recently saw them on sale for 399.00 and with the 50.00 CZ rebate they ran last month I couldn't pass up a P10 for 350.00
@@pmorin313 hold up there was a cz rebate last month
@@bigk4026 yes sir! 😉
I see your point but also see why they don't change. They don't make guns to be fun or interesting or good for competition. They made a fighting pistol that simply works, which is what the major target audience of soldiers and cops really need. Everyone else can make the cool new "race guns" or super modular systems or whatever that come with quirks or hiccups. I hope Glock sticks to making simple and robust fighting tools like they do.
I don't think Mac has heard of the saying if it ain't broke, don't fix it
Ever heard of "good" sights out of the box? That will be crazy when they release their Glock 54 that includes that awesome new innovation!
Absolutely
The Glock G19 Gen 5 was the fourth hand gun I bought. Out the box I shot it better than the previous three that included a Smith Wesson Sigma series, the Beretta PX4 Storm and the IWI Jericho 941. The Glock G19 is not a challenge to maintain or shoot well and is versatile. Except for the sights, the G19 is stock while the other three required much tuning.
Got plenty of Glocks. Carry one for work, but I also have a Shadow Systems. The 200 round break in is because it has tighter tolerances, unlike the Glocks. The difference between a precision gun and a well made one.
Glock 47 Benefits : Added weight to help reduce some recoil , the sight radius is longer,which may help improve acuracy . Also shorter grip can improve concealed carry options for some people
What!
@Waylon Smythers - True , but not what we want . We want something totally different
The grip length is the hardest part to conceal, imo the "x" series like the 19x make the least sense for carrying. I have no quarrel with a Longer slide Longer sight radius does make a nominal improvement
I think that one was meant to be carried owb. Homos naked tho. Do whatever tf you want 🇺🇲
I find longer slides ride better in a behind the hip IWB holster.
While I don't like it, a lot of people I've talked to say they like a longer slide for AIWB because it offers more leverage with the wedge/pillow to keep the grip closer to the body.
If you can find one, get a Radian Ramjet+Afterburner for your 19/45. The compensator gives extra length to the slide similar to a 17. Plus you get a comp.
Likely one of the best videos you have ever posted. Quick, no BS, informative, accurate and honest.
Haha umm... He's bs-ing the entire intro, whatcha talking bout Willis?!
last sentence could be a glock ad
Best of waking up is....
Folgers in your cup and Tim's Sarcasm in a video in the morning...😉🙂
I only have a glock 19 (non mos). The 47 was a welcome surprise cause now I have 4 variants. Yea, it is a bit gimmicky, but it is nice to save some $ and have the modularity.
The G47 will now allow me to make that mile-long sniper shot.
I'm curious to know what patents glock still holds or applied for. Maybe we can get a sence which direction they're heading.
All electric ⚡️
For anyone who wants a 19 frame with 17 slide and doesn't want to spend $700, Brownells has a 19LS (Long Slide) for Gen 3 pistols with barrel for about $250. Add in the slide parts and shipping and you're looking at $350ish shipped. That seems to make more sense than buying the 47 for $700, particularly as either way you have to get or already have the 19 lower.
The Glock 47 has been underwhelming. I have had numerous agents trade in 47s for 19s. I have not had a single agent trade a 19 for a 47.
I do agree, the Glock 45 is the sweet spot for a duty handgun.
Great review MAC, and so true about Glock innovation.
To me, the G17 is a "duty" sized gun. If agents or police can't handle the G17, give em a 19. IF ones agency or department is utterly and completely married to 9x19 Para, that is.
To me, the short slide+long grip or long slide+short grip concepts are a big yawn. As per what little value both concepts bring to the table, in a handgun.
If one is carrying a handgun concealed, in plain cloths?
The longer grip WILL print under minimal garments...but so will a G19 WITH a longer slide....given the garment type and wearers body size/shape.
Which with today's fashions may or may not be that big of a deal for some.
To me I'd much rather have saw Glock put the development money into things like a better trigger, better cartridge case support on the barrel for EVERY model Glock produces, and finding ways to stuff bigger than 9m cartridges...intoxicated an envelope that's just slightly bigger than a G19 , 17, or G43x.
It's seems like Glock could do this with their G48 line. As it would probably be the perfect vehicle for a .45 ACP or 10mm platform, if made only a few thousandths bigger.
And yes.
I'm fully aware of Glocks G22/23 and G20/21 pistols and their compact brethren What I'm talking about though, is a gun that chambers a better than 9mm cartridge....in something much less bulky and chunky than Glocks current non-9mm stable line up that was developers of in the early 1990's.
Also, there are Glocks TRUE sub compacts to think on.
The G43 and G43X.
The G43 is not much better than a .38 snub to me. Too small mag capacity combined with too small dimensions overall.
And the G43X is ok, but a non-starter when one can get more on board ammo cap in an equally small gun from somebody else.
However, to the G43X' credit.
It seems to sometimes fit a broader variety of people's hands better than say a Springfield Hellcat or Sig P365 series. As far as length of grip goes
I’ve been trying to switch my g47 for a g19 and my forearms department keeps saying that they don’t have any 19s left 🫤
@@bertito43 That is entirely possible, but your PFI can and should request more from Harper's Ferry. Even if they need to send back their excess 47s to do it and stil maintain their 5%.
@@ravenrise320 You bring up some good points. I can't think of any Federal Agencies that don't issue duty weapons, and for better or worse, the vast majority of those are now married to the 9mm. The Border Patrol wanted cross compatibility for their pistols for their own reasons and that is what they are stuck with now. It's not necessarily a bad thing to have choices, but for the most part the 47 does nothing better than a 19 except bring along 2 extra rds.
We could debate ad nauseum about caliber choices and benefits/drawbacks, but these agencies don't get a choice on that, so there is no point.
@@BillyBob-ov5ef that’s good info to know and I honestly didn’t know about it. I’ll reach out again to my firearms department and bug them some more. Thanks!
I don't live in the States, but this amazing firearm is so groundbreaking it makes me want to move there just so I can own it more easily.
I can't tell if you're making fun of this or not....
It's sad you can't own it in your current country
@@thewatcher611 I certainly hope he's not serious. I'm with you on that one
Go thought the channels to get here. The process of going to a gun store isn’t as easy as our government makes it out to be. It’s easier to answer 7 questions at the gas pump before pumping gas than it is to walk out of a brick and mortar with a gun in 10 mins 🤣
Its like when you ask your dad a stupid question and you think he understands, but really he's just humoring you. Very entertaining, thank you.
Some people do carry a 19 with an TLR1 HL or X300 which is fine, but at that point, why not just put the 17 length slide on a 19 that has a longer light on it? If you carry a 19 with a longer light, having the 17 length slide on it won't affect draw whatsoever as the 17 slide wouldn't go past the light anyways.
Well said indeed sir, I’m a Glock guy, G26/gen 5 with all stock parts, stock and G19/G17 mags with grip extensions + big stick, three pistols in one, no need for all the rest, fully versatile and concealable. No problem with accuracy either.
I can see the benefit of this system, this is similar to the M17, you can swap between full size and compact slides. This is a plus for logistics.
Counterpoint - Why buy anything but the compact slide?
I have to say this.
For the newer gun owners this is a great option.
If you own a Gen 5 g19 and now buy this g47 you get 3 different style guns while only buying 2 guns.
4 actually
@@mikemcintosh295
Correct
You could get the long slide also
I got the Gen 5 19 a few weeks back. Absolutely love it, huge upgrade from the Gen 3.
Getting the 47 next so I can have the following options:
19 lower, 47 upper; Glock “19L”
47 lower, 19 upper; Glock 45
47 lower, 47 upper; improved Glock 17
“Different style” is an interesting choice of words
@@B8BBB8B88BB8
Lol
I hear you.
It’s a different strokes kind of thing.
I want something that I can buy parts for and use the shit out of. When something breaks I can fix it in a couple of minutes
I appreciate your Candor , I was a Glock guy for a long time because I was a LEO and that’s what we used which was much better than the Beretta M9 we used in the army. I finally broke free and now have a Walther PDP which is modular in the slide and barrels . Night and day difference .
To be fair, the military uses and abuses all its equipment
@@Pamba4 not when you need to depend on that equipment . Then you take care of your entire Kit and vehicles
@@jasestrong maybe it’s just a Marine Corps thing then? I know a lot of Marines trashed the M9A3, but that’s because what they were issued were worn out and parts weren’t maintained properly. I have an M9A3 and I love it
So you down graded like an idiot cause you wanna be edgy and cool to tell everyone you carry something other than a glock? Great.....
Not to argue, but a simple point. Not a Glock fanboy either, but for the same reason I drive Toyota pickups here in Alaska I drive Glocks also.
Speaking of modularity. Thanks to the aftermarket I can take my Glock 22 and switch a barrel and it becomes a Glock 31. I then put in another different barrel and it becomes a Glock 17.
Three calibers, one gun. How modular do you want to be?
I had to watch the intro again. You had me so pumped 🤣
Spot on evaluation.
Good review 👍👌😊!
I'm a fan of Glocks as they are and have been. I carry one every day. My favorite is my gen 3 19. There's other models I like too. When the 43 came out I got one, then I got a 48. The thin frame fits my hands very well. I bought a couple of the Shield Arms 15 round magazines. Perfect for me. Having the 43 and 48 also allows me to swap frames and slides, I like that. Still, the trusty old 19 is by far my favorite pistol.
Actually working on doing the same thing, just got my 43 but now i want a 48 to swap uppers for the longer barrel length.
@Ben Jammin one thing I would recommend is talon grip panels for the 43. Makes for a very positive and comfortable grip.
@@lindanelson8400 already installed! I have the Pro grips on my 19 but went with granulate for the 43
I concur. I do like the slightly slower and smoother impulse of my 17/34s, but my go to is a 45 MOS.
I always felt like I found the magic combo on this for a true do it all ccw..... Glock 26 gen 4 with an extended threaded barrel, and 15-17 round magazines with grip extensions.. If I wanna go as concealable as possible switch back to short barrel and 10 round magazines.... It works well for travel, and I can carry differently depending on the situation with one gun. Tritium Ghost ring sight instead of red dot on that one so I can keep it as concealable as possible but still have a sight I can pick up tremendously quickly.... It's my work horse...
Sounds like a good setup. Id try it, but the 19s grip is perfect for my hands (and they're small).
Under 2 minutes in and apparently I have had too many Shirley Temples; hilarious!
I have been evaluating a purchase of a Glock versus a PSA dagger. Since I am not in the military or law enforcement, my use of the pistol will be limited to range shooting. I assessed the likelihood that I will need to use this gun in home defense to near zero considering that I have four other hand guns, and don't expect a home invasion any time soon (you never know, but suffice it to say that they will not get the welcome wagon). So in light of that, as long as the weapon feels good, you can shoot it accurately, and it's reliable when you need it, who cares about the brand name? It's the price that matters as, if you never need to kill anyone, it's a five hundred dollar paperweight sitting in a drawer. On the other hand, if it's your only defensive handgun, choose the most reliable one you can find. And in that case, Glock is the gold standard which is why so many in law enforcement carry them. I disagree with the assertion that Glock needs to make an 'un-Glock'. If that is the case, and I was Glock, I would start a second company (not named Glock), and work on 'moon shot' guns so the Glock reputation does not get caught up in that 'arms race'. Let's let Glock be Glock.
Thank you for being honest about this gun. It was hyped so hard I thought they actually did something different lol
I like the consistency of my Glocks. They all basically look the same and operate the same. I can pick any of them up and don’t have to think about where anything is. Big thing for me is that when you pull the trigger on an empty chamber, the trigger stays back. You can see from across a room that the gun is safe. I don’t have to wonder if there is a round in the chamber when the trigger is back. Mentioned that to hickock45 once, and he agreed with me and said that he doesn’t know of another gun that does that. I own sigs and other hand guns, but they are range guns only. Guess I’m one of those people that don’t need/want new stuff whenever something new that comes out. I like consistency, therefore Glocks will always be my main handguns.
Could't have said it better.
Same here. Always drives me nuts when a company discontinues a perfectly good product just to try to get more attention. Glocks are effective, reliable, & reasonably priced, and they sell a buttload of them for precisely those reasons.
The Glock 48 seems to be pretty good for every day carry
So do the rest of them.
Pick between the 19 and 48 based on your hand size.
If you got smaller hands like my baby momma, 48 is your best bet. If you got big hands like me, 19 is the way to go. Even 17 if you’re comfortable with it
Glock is great for 1 thing, ease of maintenance. Glock hater’s complain about no real innovation since the first Glock came out, but the 1911 has seen no real innovation in over 100 years just slight tweaks same with the browning hi-power, sure there is the 2011 but it’s stupid expensive and rarely in stock. Personally as long as it goes bang when I need it to defend my life and my loved ones, innovation be dammed for all I care.
Just got me a Glock 45 mos, my first Glock & I have to say, I’m impressed. Though all the models look the same, you can’t please everyone on products. That’s why we all have opinions on what we want. If Glock doesn’t have what you want in a gun, another company will.
Glock is developing a rifle.
To quote another great gun channel about the velocity "Not enough difference to make a difference". As a big Glock fan I agree with you, they started out with a great design and basically stuck with it forever. I don't get why the 26 doesn't have a rail as one little example.
Don’t give them ideas. They’ll do that and call it the Glock 49. Big unveil at Shot Show 2024.
There were some tests done with a Walther on muzzle velocity from their polygonal Barrel with a step chamber. This was a test verse another gun of equal Coston reputation and so on but it was traditional rifling and consistently the Walther had faster muzzle velocities not huge like 30 or 40 or maybe a little more but Walter had made that claim that it had yunos 30 or 40 ft per second faster muzzle velocities due to its Barrel design and from some tests that were done it absolutely does do what it says and it does create or allow a little bit faster muzzle velocity from identical ammo shot from both the guns the Walther and I can't remember what the other one was. But the difference was not so insignificant that it was no difference That Matters to make a difference and we all love Paul Harrell so it's okay to mention his name I think he's great and probably most people here do as well but in this instance that doesn't apply in my opinion. I have to watch that video again of that test but the people doing the test agreed it was not an insignificant amount of gain did it was useful but you have to see it yourself I guess and decide on your own. But I thought it was if nothing else an interesting experiment
Wow another new model number thanks Glock for your innovation
How about a Glock 42x? Ruger just came out with a midsize 380.
My EDC for years has been a 32L. Basically a 31 slide on a 32 frame. I’ve carried it almost 10 years now. Lone Wolf used to make the conversion for the 19/23/32 pistols, but they went downhill a few years back. Can’t get the stuff anymore.
I was really hoping the Glock 47 would fire a new caliber like 5.7, have a different type barrel for better accuracy, or at least something new to the table. While I like Glock's ridiculous modularity, it's also became one of the reasons they innovate the least out of the big gun manufacturers.
I thought it was 5.7 at first
One of the reasons I've gravitated more towards Glock is the fact that GLOCK USA is located in my back yard and it makes sense logistically (service, parts, etc.). However, in the last few years, I've begun branching back out to SIG, HK and more recently FN. I agree that Glocks are the AK of the handgun world and often use that analogy myself. The lack of meaningful innovation compared to other major manufacturers is why I now spend more of my money on their competitors. I'm lucky enough to pay blue label prices and I still choose lately to pay more for a SIG 320, HK VP9, FN 509 MRD or 509C. Glock does have people who will be watching these videos and reading these posts but sadly the biggest changes on a Gen 6 will still be different grip texture or horizontal slide serrations...
What could glock do to be more innovative? Like SIgs 320 its modular and cool but I wonder how many actually switch grips and slides. So if you dont do that its a novelty. Biggest thing glock could do is grip and trigger. Which theyve finally addressed trigger.
You must live near me. I’m only about an hour from their headquarters
I've been a LEO Firearms Instructor for over 20 years and I can honestly tell you that I have yet to see a GLOCK go down in any of my classes. Now every time a Sig P320 or P365 variant shows up to a class, problems galore (magazine issues, FTF, FTE etc) GLOCK may be a "one trick pony" like @mac likes to say but I also believe in "if it ain't broke...." In a life and death situation I'll take a reliable "one trick pony" over a maybe it might work "innovation". FYI, I own and issue as loaner guns in my classes Sigs, S&W, Beretta.
Couldn’t agree more. This is why I came back to Glock after trying all those other pistols and experiencing some of these problems. Lots of Glock haters pretending not to hate Glock.
I feel like you're just trolling Padraig in the first quarter of this video 😆
Same thing as a Glock 17 but it shoots a lil smoother , a lot of jamming issues with magazines, u need to get extra power springs
I have seen plenty of guys in competition using Glocks with aftermarket triggers, barrels, slides, frames, etc. The reliability goes completely out the window, and they become jam factories. I have never liked the grip angle of Glocks. Let the fan boys get angry.
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I wonder what they are doing that causes the jams? I have thousands of rounds thru my 19x and I have had a pyramid flat trigger with 3.5lb kit since day 1...I bet I have experienced half a dozen jams in thousands of rounds and several years of carrying it around in the woods.
@Josh Shepherd that's a lot of jams for a glock.
The glock 46 actually is an innovative pistol. Hope they'll eventually release it to us, but it honestly is pretty cool. Definitely different than the normal glock's
Edit- made this comment within the first 2 minutes of the vid. Glad mac addressed the 46. Hope we get it one day.
idk if they dont have some sort of contract with german govt that makes it impossible to sell to other entities
Nobody is saying that Glock wasn't innovative back in the 80's. The problem is they haven't innovated since.
@@dilldowschwagginz2674 they have though. We just can't get it yet. That was really my point. They definitely didn't do much innovating the 3 decades in between though. Not much denying that. Can't wait to get a 46 if they ever release them for civilian sale though.
Combine a G46 with a removable polymer grip frame and fire control unit.
What is the benefit of a 46’s rotating barrel over any other Glock design?
The two times they really innovated didn't really go over like gangbusters. I'm thinking of G37/.45 GAP and the G42/43. G37 is a novelty with the proprietary ammo and the G43 had a single stack mag. Outside of being a Glock, it redefine the market like the Hellcat and P365 did some years later. Wasn't until then that they modified it into the G43x and still couldn't get the capacity.
Plus they are way overpriced, Glock clones are $200 or more cheaper.
They couldn't get the same capacity as the Hellcat or P365 because of the stupid polymer wrapped magazines. the .45 GAP failed because it was an answer to a problem that no one had. They created a cartridge to replace a cartridge that had been around (at the time) for 90 years. The problem being that the cartridge they designed wasn't any different except for being slightly shorter. No extra capacity, no extra performance, no extra anything... except for a slightly smaller frame (if it was chambered in something other than a Glock, I do believe Glock receivers actually came out being the same size as other .45 ACP frames... because of the stupid polymer wrapped magazines). So, yeah, when you try to replace something that is ingrained in a market with something else that is virtually identical there is a good chance that it will fail.
I got a G45 MOS with optics, suppressor sights, Timney trigger, etc., a stock G23, and G32 upper (357 sig). By mixing frames and slides I can get multiple sizes, optic options, calibers, triggers, etc. I might add a comp (or porting) to the 40 some day, would love to find a gen 5 357sig barrel so I could really mix it up. It'd be cool to have a 47 upper to mix it up even more with a true full sized length, but as you say, it's just not that much different....I'd much rather have frame, trigger, optic, barrel type options than a 0.50" extra length on the same gun.
I bought parts for 2 PSA Daggers for the price of 1 glock. They came with optic cuts, cheap magazines, supressor height lower 1/3 co-witness sights, threaded barrels, and I have not had a single malfunction from either of them, not even with my 3d printed magazines. Put an upgraded trigger spring kit in the 1st one I bought that came with the holosun...it fu**s hard. Love it.
Hahahaha. I put 13k to 14k rounds downrange a year with my Glocks. I own some PSA and I know they'll never take that unless I replace most of their parts with OEM Glock.
Good luck😆
@@JD-tn5lz hahahaha! And how do you know that exactly? You can interchange parts with a glock you say (and I have as well), which is no surprise since the operating system is basically identical so it can't be design.....is there a heat treat issue with some components? Is the frame somehow inferior, are the polymers not up to par for the stress? What makes you KNOW the dagger won't hold up? Putting 14k rounds through a glock in a year won't tell you anything about a PSA dagger. All that says is you are flat out wasting ammunition and wearing out your gun at that point. Enjoy your over priced piece of plastic on your high horse, and best of luck.
I trust my life to Glock every day for 20 years.
Glocks are fine. They just have no soul in my eyes.
My grandfather gave me a gen 1 g17 in 93' ...best pistol I've ever owned! Glock perfection 🥰
Well no company should ever claim perfection,.....glock is a great gun. But Springfield is a better setup out of the box. All around.
Glock makes great startup guns for beginners. The Honda Civic of gun owners.
I agree 100%. I was surprised how many folks lost their mind when the 19X was released as they wanted the long barrel/short grip and I couldn’t understand why they wanted it. The 19X (to me personally) is the best Glock I’ve ever owned because I’ve got extra large hands. But curious if all those folks that went internet mental will all start buying what they said Glock should have released in the first place. 🤷♂️
Completely agree. The 19X is the perfect size for me. It's part of my daily kit. I try swinging in other pistols now and then but the size, balance and overall feel can't be beat... for me.
They basically G43x/G48ified the G17/19X/45.
in absence of a red dot, you absolutely do get better combat accuracy with longer slides, even at 10'. They're just faster to aim with, so within the same time window you aim better. But longer slides do make unholstering, especially in compromised positions, more difficult, so the net result is unclear.
The longer barrel may not change the velocity but it definitely improves recoil
What!
Glock vows to never rest until all the slides are on all the frames. That's dedication.
The 47 slide on the 19 frame actually does give guys like me, some much needed advantages over the 19.
When I carry appendix, with my fat gut, the 19 struggles for concealment. My gut shoves that handle way out and does more than merely print. It creates a whole shelf system coming off of my front that you can confidently set your beer on....
A good holster, with a decent wedge system, does help....a bit. But, I have to set it up deep, to have that wedge comfortably rest on my pelvic bone.
A 17 meets the length requirements for me to have a higher handle, for a better initial grip on the....grip. But, the length of the grip and again, my fat gut, really makes the foot of that grip stick out quite bit. This is even with a good holster that attempts to twist the grip into the gut.
The 47 slide, on a 19 frame, fixes all of these issues for me. It conceals better, wears more comfortably, and provides a better initial purchase with the grip and my hand than any other Glock solution.
A gun that is more comfortable, and conceals better, is a gun that will be carried more.
I have a fat gut also and that's why I carry a SIG p365 in my pocket with a DeSantis pocket holster doesn't print, and it is very quick to draw, and I can all year round even with short's on and no shirt to pull up unless you open carry which is well stupid.
yep, same reason a lot of guys carry the 48 over the 43X, same frame, but longer barrel on the 48
With a G 21 one can swap barrels ,springs, mags etc. to shoot 46 Rowland, 10 mm, 40 s&w, 50 cal , 45 super...versatility rocks.
The only way the modularity of the Glock 47 makes sense to me is if it comes with both slides to be configured as you want if you have to buy a 19 to get the modularity just grab which ever gun you need when you need it. No need to swap slides.
Excellent video. I've been saying for years that Glock has literally been the same since the 80s in terms of innovation. Although I did just see a video where Glock Store brought to our attention that the Sig 365 X-Macro completely copied the Glock 43x........ like, you know, where your hand goes..... and since they completely copied the 43x, they finally succeeded in making the Sig "pointable" for the first time ever. LOL. In all seriousness, Glock would probably find it beneficial to copy Sig once in a while.