Kellie-Jay Keen: women are being bullied by trans-rights groups
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2021
- Professor Kathleen Stock at Sussex University has been branded a 'transphobe' by students for suggesting gender identity is at odds with biological sex.c.
Women’s rights campaigner Kellie-Jay Keen says "women across the country have had enough" of being "bullied" and "victimised" by trans rights groups.
I’m an American black woman and Kellie is absolutely right. Talking points that the host mentioned further exacerbates the issue.
It's Fem Woke Vs Trans Woke.
When you say "woman" you mean woman, right?
@@Aerojet01 what????
@@calstonjew What do you mean?
@@teeshante Adult human female
A bloke in a dress is still a bloke I support real woman
No one said a dress makes you a woman. A woman is anyone who identifies as female.
You can't identify as female. Female is a category based purely on biology. You are either born female or you aren't.
@Toot Toot Men and Women aren't 'identities' to co-opt and wear like costumes.
@@toottoot6019 but if a man identifies as a woman, they are a man
@@toottoot6019 That's not how the world works 🤦♀️. Woman is not a costume!
Trans ppl can call themselves whatever they like...it doesn't mean everyone else has to go along with that dillusion.
Spot on
Absolutely
Trans Women are Women.
Trans Men are Men.
@@toottoot6019that's just word vomit.
@@toottoot6019 apart from in every single measurable way, sure 😂.
Biology doesn’t lie
i note that female prisoners can be punished for misgendering trans female prisoners - even rapists! well done to kellie-jay.
You hear the recent deep green resistance podcast on this issue?
The state is walking rapists in to women's prisons and calling the women bigots if they try to protect themselves.
I respect their right to call themselves what ever they like...I demand that they respect my right to not go along with their game.
We must fight harder back at theses hate groups.....🐂💩
Woke People believe in being nice - Free thinkers realise being nice is what confidence tricksters get up to.
I've had enough of 'womanface' men cannot be women. How difficult is this?
A "Man" can become a Woman by changing "his" gender identity and then she becomes a Woman.
@@toottoot6019 grow up.
We are not going to stand for this silly bloody generation reorganising reality
@@toottoot6019 you poor thing . When i was your age i was protesting real stuff .
@@toottoot6019 Where do babies come from?
@@toottoot6019 What a load of bollocks (literally)... we're fed up with your argument, there's more important things in life 🙄
Kellie talks common sense
I am not a chest feeder, menstruater, womb haver, cis, pregnant person., etc. I am a woman and you will hear me roar!!
Everything Kellie-Jay says is correct. I hope the presenter now understands the enormity of what we are enduring at the hands of this so-called "community".
The colour comparison was perfect and Claudia's reaction was to laugh. If I put boot polish on my face, dyed my hair black and said I identify as a black person I would be ridiculed. If I was taken seriously, Claudia would be furious.
Very true. Dave Chappelle made exactly the same comparison and is being attacked by the trans groups for it.
The next step ain't going to be trans race - It'll be trans child !
exactly ! on the button !
Well, she's woke by definition
But you don't need to put boot polish on your face or dye your hair black. Just 'feeling' that you're black is enough, surely? I feel I'm Afro-American and thus my feelings trump your idea of reality.
The mere fact that her child has to sit her down and explain how to refer to men and women, boys and girls is problematic and shows how topsy-turvy this whole thing is.
You can't change your sex you can only impersonate another .
True. Imagine we called them impersonators
@@virtualvalium I think those categories all ready exists , ie Cross dressers / Drag .
Go get ‘em Kellie! I won’t be told what to call someone if it’s a lie.
The emperor has no clothes.
They are men, even if we don't say it aloud everyone is certainly saying it to themselves in their head . Sorry but it is what it is.
"They are men" Is that the message? Yeah, we've heard it.
Women are solely defined by genitalia, chromosomes and child bearing ability. Just as every misogynist the world over entirely agrees.
Agreed. We all know it’s rubbish everyone one just plays along so we don’t offend them in the name of kindness. Now look where we are. Not a single female spaces on any level be it changing rooms. Prisons. Or even rape shelters are free from men. So I won’t be playing along anymore. No one should and if we all get called transphobic I don’t care. My agreeing to men being women is rising my safety so I’m done.
Yes, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM is a man. NO EXCEPTIONS.
Why are the people who fight for their 'rights', so nasty and hateful?
Because they know deep down they are irreparable wronguns
@@sarahwagland1559 averse is a more accurate word to use than phobic. "Phobic" implies a level of irrationality.
@@classicepisodesofcrimewatc9971 Looks as though my comment has been deleted anyway. But yes, I agree.
Because it's being driven by people who are actually really privledged and entitled. But they"ve gotten bored with it and their first world life so they invent a problem.
Naricissts
Blokes in dresses who have failed at being men bullying women! No real woman would use threats of violence in such circumstances!
Keep telling the truth KJ. We support you.
This idea that we must respect the views of everyone that has one is as ludicrous as the idea that wearing make up and a dress makes you a woman.
No one seems interested that being a woman is having a body designed to produce eggs, incubate and feed a baby and having the hormones that go with it. Men have no idea what it "feels" like to be a woman as I don't know what it feels like to be a man who has a body designed to impregnate. Apart from how others react to me be depending on the their perception of what it is to be a woman (ie societal constructs and cultural beliefs) I am just me, a human being.
@@sarahwagland1559 all these agps are doing is acting out their sexiest and pornified ideals of women. Like we say in the Native community "everyone wants to be indian until it's time to be indian".
@@melanieortiz712 Exactly!
@@sarahwagland1559
You are conflating gender identity with reproductive functions and breastfeeding. If you see yourself as a Woman because of that that's fine but some people who do those things see themselves as men.
@Toot Toot you are conflating games of pretend with reality.
They are getting away with revolting bullying , fear and alarm and severe psychological distress on other people. How dare they bully people!!! There are millions of women who have been abused and or assaulted and can be triggered and frightened in women only spaces. This is abhorrent. Stop this now
All in the name of progressiveness 🤷🏻♂️
And why does the presenter not educate her daughter on this. It appears you cannot offend the trans community with your views but it is ok for them to threaten women with physical violence and threats.
@Shantini Sabapathy it's revolting, just inexplicable scandal 😳
This time, in a hypothetical historical context, will be "deemed to have been........." I wonder 🤔
Even persecution doesn't come close. Some of these nimby's actual talk about !ran & women there. Look in the mirror nimby's!!
They are "boak givers".
The point that Kellie-Jay should've made on the racial issue to clarify the comparison to the hostess is this: if she, a White woman, identified as a Black woman, it would be ludicrous because she is not Black. She is not Black because of biology. Her demand - i.e. to be accepted, recognised, and treated as a Black woman - would be a demand for others to indulge in a fiction.
Similarly, transwomen demand to be accepted, recognised, and treated as women. They are not women because of biology. Their demand would be a demand for others to indulge in a fiction. In the same way that Black women might find "transracialism" offensive, women find transgenderism offensive.
Claudia laughed at the comparison but it is a direct comparison. Feeling like something is fair enough, we can feel whatever we like, but to expect others to participate in a fantasy when we not only feel but KNOW that it's BS is insanity.
Boom 👊
Trans activists like to draw comparisons with the civil rights struggle and gay rights activism. But it's a false analogy. Again, ethnic minorities and homosexuals demanded recognition for what they are; trans activists demand recognition for what they're not.
The fact that the presenter is getting educated by her child says a lot.
It says a lot about her ability to listen and try to understand her childs point of view. It says a lot about her ability to empathize and her openness to broaden her horizon.
@@montecrucis7247 never had kids have you
@@stevenesbitt3528 Your assumption has nothing to do with the content of my statement: a kid can be very happy if the mother would listen to them like that for just once in their life. You can learn a lot by good listening skills - but only when you're interested enough in another human being, especially when it's your kid. :)
@@montecrucis7247I was right though wasn’t I
@@stevenesbitt3528 Yes and I am right, too :)
Love Kellie. And I am in 100% agreement with her. And I think her analogy is correct: imagine a white person blacking up their face, getting dreads out in, claiming to be Black, and then demanding that everyone agree that the are Black. Then starting to lecture people about the Black struggle. We would find it horrifically offensive. Yet, we have men, most of whom do not even have surgery, putting woman-face on, demanding we believe they are now women, and then crying transphobia when we don’t. I find it offensive and very controlling.
There is no medical condition where someone would claim to be the opposite race in which they were born but there is a medical condition where people can claim to feel like the opposite gender of which they were born which means that your comment is irrelevant and out of touch with reality you need to rethink
@@Madamemedusa1986 they may ‘feel’ like the opposite gender, but they shouldn’t trump women’s rights to have safe spaces. It is unreasonable. They expect half the population to just accept that we have to share a toilet or changing room because they say they ‘feel’ like a woman. How do they know how a woman feels? It is appeasing a small group and upsetting a larger one. It doesn’t make sense.
@@Madamemedusa1986 keyword here is "claim"
I disagree a bit. I don't think crossdressing is the same as black face. Of course they shouldn't be accepted as women, but the act of crossdressing as a sexual fetish isn't the same as black face which is intended to humiliate
@@Materva-hv6sz yes I think you are right, though I think transwidows may have a lot to say about how it feels to have a man who fetishes their very existence, and I think some of that would be feeling humiliation, among many other things.
I think the better argument would be why do we not accept Rachel Dolezal as black, but a man self id’s and now a woman.
Attacked by people with no identity on twitter.
Not really, Dr. Stock is being targeted by students at her place of work.
Kellie speaks the truth. I will always support her.
"More women have to suffer domestic violence than there are people who identify as trans". That statistic alone just goes to show what a non issue "trans rights" really are. Why do we only focus on the vocal minority instead of the people that really need our help.
Absolutely, but it's actually ALL about the domination of women.
Democracy is dead....
If Trans people didn't exist - would domestic violence be higher, lower or exactly the same?
I know the whole alphabet movement is less than 1% of the world’s population …but how loud they are you’d think it was the other way round. I expect payment makes them very loud. 👍
There are two Sexes and an Agenda allright.
Posie Parker needs you to focus on a tiny minority because she needs to run a business. And good business needs to generate money to pay her salary and her staff. Hug a Trans person today!
Well said Kellie 👏 keep up the truth telling
So glad to see Kellie-Jay has not been cancelled! Be more Kellie
Not just women tbh the very definition of male is also being attacked.
True, but it is trans women (males) who seem hell-bent on having free access to spaces once reserved for females only; places where women are at their most vulnerable. As Kellie-Jay said in the interview: hospital wards, rape shelters, DV refuges, prisons, school changing rooms. I 100% respect that men also deserve privacy and dignity but, for women, there is much more of a risk involved in sharing spaces with males. I think we all need to stand together against this movement tbh.
Trans Men are Men.
Yup the gays and the men are only just now starting to catch on!
Women have been fighting against this for more than a decade Now, But men Hebe not listened to. Manu if them have supported this trans misoginist cult against women. Until Now, because they start to be bullied too. Men just ser themselves generally
@@toottoot6019 Trans 'Women' are Men you mean ?
I don't understand how the presenter didn't understand that comparison... it was a brilliant comparison!
Look into who is funding this movement and who is behind them.
One must respect the view that the earth is flat because some other people believe it is.
I mean do we need to respect it? I’m not sure. I can respect the person, but not the belief. I should not discriminate against them because they believe it, but I shouldn’t be compelled to go along with it for fear of hurting their feelings.
@@nettietrees7238 I disagree. People who believe the Earth is flat deserve no respect and should not be trusted to be capable of anything requiring rational thought. They are either irrational or dishonest, and neither of those possibilities is in any way worthy of respect.
Respect to Kellie-Jay for supporting Kathleen Stock during this ridiculous harmful period and thanks to TalkRadio for inviting her to do so. Universities should not tolerate bullying or stop free speech - this is far from 'live and let live' obvs.
Regardless of the interviewer having little knowledge about trans issue she must realise that no one can change their sex. Perhaps being educated by ones child should be avoided & maybe speak to some adults with knowledge on the subject, thanks Kelly
"no one can change their sex".
The great anti-Trans activist's message that no one ever disagreed with ever.
What the tiny brained transphobe and misogynist the world wide over can never grasp or pretends not to grasp is that gender and biological sex are two different things. At which point the the transphobe and misogynist has already fallen asleep. But for other people femininity is not solely defined by genitalia, chromosomes and child bearing ability.
Now in truth the reality is that because you are thick - you will never win. That's how life goes and that's why you should give all your money and support to Kellie-Jay Keen who has been happy to share the same platform as white supremacists who are as thick as you.
Kellie is 100% right
I don't even understand why we 'must respect other peoples views'.
I reserve the right not to respect, or to put it more sensibly, take seriously, something I believe is utterly ridiculous.
I still have no right to stop them expressing themselves but you can't force me to respect their opinion.
Respect is not something you can demand, it needs to be earned and given freely.
Absolutely right.
If the trans community just got on with their lives like any other human beings, they would be tolerated as we tolerate all our neighbours. Sure they may encounter the odd abusive, unhappy person as we all do in our lives for one reason or another, but they are a minority. What is happening here though is that their hostility toward those who have so far been very tolerant is going to backfire on them. Our patience is wearing thin.
@@sarahwagland1559 plus they're eating themselves if you look at some trans posts😂.
If they didn't tell women to make space. Funny how men and men's rooms and all haven't been made into gender neutral or to make space. Tells ya right there something is not right
@@melanieortiz712 Ladies, Gentlemen, Disabled, Other (can't use the two words I would really like to use, the first begins with S the second D) Simple.
well done Kellie, your clear and strong voice is inspirational. Where is the empathy for someone like Kathleen Stock. Unions backing workplace bullies. Despicable
Phew. Another excellently handled, eloquent, to the point, mic-dropping interview.
Kellie-Jay, you are a force to be reckoned with. As always a big thanks.
It's weird how the point about a white person identifying as black went straight over Claudia's head - her response unintentionally backing up what Kellie was saying.
Bullying the author of a comment seems a very male way to behave.
Bingo👍
Really I'd say a very female thing to do .. from my experience!
If some trans women want to be serious women then they need to start thinking and acting like women, currently some act and think like men. The misogyny is outrageous. Not all though, there are some trans women horrified at the turn this is taking.
@@potatofries9920 what does it mean to "act like a woman"? 🤔
Applause to the woman on the right! Just because you have an opinion that doesn't make you right... plus she made some absolutely spot on points which is scary cos they are blatantly obvious
Also what was that woman on the left babbling on about?
I thought the woman on the left (the interviewer) was embarrassingly inept.
@@boudicca9807
The woman on the left is very wishy washy…too easily led.
The difference here is that the presenter actually IS black, and IS "African British". Her request to be seen in that particular way is not a violation of truth.
I don't go along with it. It's an affront to reality.
Every time interviewers try to get the better of Kellie-Jay Keen (aka Posey Parker), the interviewer always end up flat on his/her @r$€, looking not quite the silliest person in the world, but a very close second.
Lies do not deserve respect.
Love KJ...she fights for her gender like a trojan. Nothing but respect for her.
For her sex.
@@melanieortiz712 I don't usually like being corrected, but it is a fair call in this case.
Suffice to say, I'm not a fan of the women around me (and in society in general) having their exclusive biological status as women taken from them and handed to quite literally any Tom, Dick or Harry who wants a slice.
I'm a pretty old fashioned, conservative bloke, I am probably a bit sexist in my outlook as well...but what I see going at the moment is the ultimate betrayal of women, the ultimate devaluation of every woman I've ever met. It is obscene.
Kelly Jay is correct again
Way to go, Kellie-Jay!
Transphobia means I don't go along with your fake identity
Nothing phobic about it
@@melanieortiz712 a phobia is an anxiety disorder. I'm sure people that suffer from it are offended because their disorder is being used as a hate word.
Well said Kellie-Jay.
Brava Kellie-Jay!
Why is the presenter taking her advice from children ?!?!? That is so sinister . The last time that happened was under Pol Pot in Cambodia - and we all know how that turned out ........
You can listen to and respect (repsect is optional) other people's opinion but that doesn't make their opinion right.
I can't believe we are even discussing this! I just can't!
What other basic biology principle are we going to debate next?
What the hell is going on people?!!
Kellie is a lovely lady 👍.You are not alone thinking that way. Why did the presenter make it into a black & white issue?.
Was just an example not an issue
I support Kellie Jay 100%.
I think I want to live on top of a mountain... if I can find one without humans
They should nt be in women’s sports they should have their own section
Kellie Jay is right
It's not bullying its
Heterophobia.
No one is afraid of two people of same gender identity being together.
@@toottoot6019 Where do babies come from?
@@toottoot6019 transgenderism is misogynistic and homophobic. You deny same sex attraction.
@@toottoot6019 Then those that believe in "gender identity" can stay together in their own little bubble & not demand inclusion in a society that believes in reality.
😂😂😂
Now facts are offensive.
I don't mind men living as women, as long as it doesn't negatively affect real women.
How do you live “like a woman” when you’re male? Wear a spinny skirt and a wig? Utter nonsense. Being a woman is all about being a female, not looks or behaviour or identity.
@@karinelaxa959 I'm sure you're right and that, as a woman, you have much better knowledge than me about what it means to be a woman. I do have sympathy for trans people though. I've always looked at it as a mental health issue, and think we should let them get on with their lives where possible, but don't think that should include things like participating in women's sport, being placed in women's prisons or hospital wards, and invading other women's spaces.
There might be people out there who think they are Superman. And that is fine if that's what they believe but you can't make me believe it..
Yeah till they try to Fly. 👍😅🤣🤣
Ironically there is nearly a 100% similarity between women of different colours, and yet…
1-0 to the lovely Kelly Jay Keen ❤
The home of Common Sense
Telling the truth is not a crime.
Love you Kellie. Thank you for standing up for women ❤ it means so much to us women , we are being disrespected across the board. You are a blessing to us.
Bullied by men, just fir a change!
Taking offense is just whining. If you say you take offense at something I say, I am likely to say "So what?". It doesn't mean you can try and cancel me because I have offended you.
Standing up for being an African Black woman doesn’t stop someone else being safe or who they are.
Woman we have to right to speak
We are not cis woman, we need our spaces as women to be respected
Kellie Jay Keen!¡~~💖 I’m behind you!! 💛💝💛
Some protest happened today (14th march) in perth against KJ and supporting trans rights. But no one from that community takes responsibility about issues caused by the trans community.
Imagine actually getting people fired for having a different opinion
Well said Posie
3 decades ago I watched a doco about babies born without clear gender. Tough decision for the parents about what gender that child was to be brought up as.
Kelly Jay peaks Claudia on live TV
I find it astonishing that Claudia Eliza works on Talk Radio because I find her such a massive fence sitter which is completely at odds with what Talk Radio is all about. I just don’t get it.
Humanity is going insane. Luckily Kellie Jay is not
I stand with Kellie. She hits the nail on the head.
It will be women that put pressure on M.P.s when their powder room has men dressed as women looking in.
Live by the sword, die by the sword. Are the people who demand the sacking of those with opposing opinions to their own dogma, too stupid and or short-sighted to understand that setting this type of precedent can and most likely will be used against them. One day, what they have said, tweeted, typed or thought may not be en vogue any more, and if they have been complicit in the building of an intolerable world, they are going to have to live in it and suffer the consequences. Whatever happened to "Sticks and Stones?"
KJ - absolute legend.
Bullied by mostly men wearing lipstick and dresses who are aggressive and violent.
Pmsl well them same groups have been bullying men for years not nice is it 🤣🤦
I would love if the reporter would conduct another interview with KJK, or another feminist.
If you haven't had enough education and experience on an issue reserve your opinion because there is a lot to learn. It is frustrating when people seem so feeble over an issue that just requires commonsense. Children should not be explaining to parents and making them unsure of their position on this issue.
I agreed with everything until she said about the white supremacy but at that point she totally lost me.
In New Zealand just now they are trying to impose self ID in place of biological sex and the Maori people are saying it's not part of their culture and they don't want it.
She is talking about the USA - which i'm sure you must know is a societal basket case . I can see it . The far right has always been a bit kinky .
This is beyond the pale she is entitled to say this and it is in fact the truth the world has gone mad
professor stock is right and the bullies should be dealt with by the police .
Watch Riley Gaines in America has been hit several times by trans women. Disgusting, this has to stop and I don't think any charges have been filed? How on earth can this be allowed. 😢
Amd businesses are being bullied by them too I mean really especially.young people at forst jobs they go there amd start drama causing young people to be fearful
It's ur first job at since amd her comes the trans expecting u to know anything about them its rodiculas
Kellie u ⭐👍
so can I request that people see me as a Llama? or as a black woman ? hmmmm.....l would be accused of appropriation
Oh she standing up for real women😮😮
Society is getting crazier and we need more sane people. Just the other day someone online asked me if I was trans . I'm 100% female, says so in my social media bio, have the parts, look it etc. So I said "no, I'm female". The person responded with "what's female" followed by accusing me of being transphobic. I couldn't believe how crazy people are becoming. My gawd what's happening. I should have told the person he was "female phobic". I just blocked them because I refuse to give crazy people my time.
Oh there are some Nutters in that FAKEbk…lot of Trolls or B0ts tbh …I’ve even been stalked and verbally attacked by two Men claiming to be Women…for Christ sake they were weirdos seriously. 😳🤯
I started blocking anybody weird…dangerous.
Why is the host
Her way of talking is not audible
It’s them undermining us Women not the other way round. Lol
They sure are
A dog is a dog, a cat is a cat ...a horse is a horse...end of it !!
You can put lipstick on a pig,it's still a pig😂