Kellie-Jay Keen and Sam Dowler CLASH: Is JK Rowling transphobic?
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Kellie Jay is absolutely brilliant. She has the patience of a saint listening to that delusional bloke. I support J.K Rowling completely.
Delusional yes, but the greater impression I get from him is that of dishonesty.
The more he talks the more he sounds like the cnut that he is! The fact that Kellie-Jay does not interrupt him makes his more of a tw@t.
She's actually not being honest. You should probably keep in mind that there's a little thing called context. The biological difference between men and women isn't the issue. There is a huge difference though between knowing that biological men shouldn't be in women's prisons, and then mocking trans people for how they look, calling them what they don't want to be called just for the sake of it, and even telling them that the mere concept of being trans is offensive and dangerous. Just to give an example, if these 'gender critical' feminists are going to claim that "facts can't be bigoted", why is it that so many of them want the pro life movement to self censor, or even ban them from protests at abortion clinics? Referring to abortion as killing, and showing pictures of mutilated fetus' is a truth and a reality. Yet the only arguments that people like Kellie have that those people should keep quiet is because it's 'insensitive' to women who had abortions. So there you go, they are actually perfectly fine with censoring reality just for the sake of sparing feelings. They just pretend to forget this when it comes to the subject of being trans. Facts aren't bigoted, but the context of why you're bringing up certain facts can vary wildly with intent, as well as how important it even is.
Woop woop, we should form our own version of the death eaters
He's obviously a bender.
The irony of men telling women what a woman should be. Women standing up for themselves and their rights is transphobic. Madness
Same what men went tru with the feminist movement in the 70-80s where they invaded any space that was occupied by male's.
Men only clubs were shut down as it became illegal behaviour to refuse a woman entry to men only spaces.
Iam keeping our of the trans genda arguments I personally believe people can do what ever they like as long as it doesn't affect anyone else.
I really like Kelly but I can't help feeling that the revolution has boomeranged and now the women only spaces are reluctant to grant access to transgender people.
@@michaellear3276 Feminism is a different story at least for many colored communities. Prior to colonialism societies were far more matriarchal in the sense that both men and women worked equally and were respected. With colonialism came the illusion that women were property. It makes sense for feminists in the past to invade the spaces of those who oppressed them. Also important to note that men feel the exact same way when the roles are reversed. Being belittled, getting assaulted, cat called by men specifically, not having rights. No one wants to be controlled. I don't understand the heat Feminism recieves. I think it goes back to men being use to patriarchal constructs and not wanting to give up what they're use to.
@@michaellear3276 you seem like a woman hater. 70 and 80s wasn't a fun time for women ....and well before
@@moonlighthugsandbugs The "heat" is Karma. After decades of feminist Misandry, the feminists now get called out by the Trans. Both the Trans attacks on feminists and Feminist attacks on men are wrong.
She's actually not being honest. You should probably keep in mind that there's a little thing called context. The biological difference between men and women isn't the issue. There is a huge difference though between knowing that biological men shouldn't be in women's prisons, and then mocking trans people for how they look, calling them what they don't want to be called just for the sake of it, and even telling them that the mere concept of being trans is offensive and dangerous. Just to give an example, if these 'gender critical' feminists are going to claim that "facts can't be bigoted", why is it that so many of them want the pro life movement to self censor, or even ban them from protests at abortion clinics? Referring to abortion as killing, and showing pictures of mutilated fetus' is a truth and a reality. Yet the only arguments that people like Kellie have that those people should keep quiet is because it's 'insensitive' to women who had abortions. So there you go, they are actually perfectly fine with censoring reality just for the sake of sparing feelings. They just pretend to forget this when it comes to the subject of being trans. Facts aren't bigoted, but the context of why you're bringing up certain facts can vary wildly with intent, as well as how important it even is.
She's not transphobic she's just smart.
Accusing mean to say that someone has done something morally wrong or illegal. A phobia is an extreme, irrational, fear of something that may cause a person to panic. Considering those two definitions, to accuse somebody of transphobia is an utterly nonsense.
she's not transphobic. that community attacked tf out of her for saying she knows men in dresses arent biological women. just like the rest of us know its bullshit. shes a great lady and shes an amazing author
It's the trans-movement creating this shit. Perhaps people ought to be "trans-phobic".
Agree.
It's the gall of these men....its not about feelings...stand wth jk..
I am deeply concerned about the mental health of anyone who disagrees with JK Rowling
Rape is wrong regardless but a trans person is a women.. if someone rapes someone then suddenly changes to woman to get a lighter sentence then that is totally wrong! Don’t get confused
Same
@@mattcall7467 "a trans person is a woman" so what about men? You literally just erased and invalidated the existence of transmen even though you claim that's what so-called terfs and transphobes are doing just because they disagree with you. You can't even get your story straight. And this isn't just about getting a lighter sentence. It's also about predatory men pretending to be women.
@@mattcall7467 "trans person is a women.." from your statement it would appear they're able to multiply.
@@mattcall7467 you’re confused mate
Three points: Kelly J is sane. Trans-women are men. Biology is real.
AMEN.
Abortion is also killing a human. How much do you want to bet Kellie doesn;t want people to say that though? :p
@@madisonc8886 it is not. you can’t kill someone who didn’t born
@@realyzze What the Actual f , once the child is conceived they are human , you are ust as delusional as these trans activists
@@madisonc8886 enough already hayseed
Keep bringing them on. Kellie-Jay will keep knocking them down.
These people think they are so righteous. JK Rowlings doesn’t deserve this.
A man in a dress is way less vunraible than a woman stuck in jail with him
@Maximum Ninjutsu Power speak English
@Maximum Ninjutsu Power what does reeeeee mean
I stand with Kellie-Jay. I stand with JK Rowling.
I do ,its utter nonsense all this ,pure crap
Me too.
Kellie Jay is completely correct in all of her statements. I'm thrilled that there are individuals like Kellie Jay who are fighting for the rights of women.
She's actually not being honest. You should probably keep in mind that there's a little thing called context. The biological difference between men and women isn't the issue. There is a huge difference though between knowing that biological men shouldn't be in women's prisons, and then mocking trans people for how they look, calling them what they don't want to be called just for the sake of it, and even telling them that the mere concept of being trans is offensive and dangerous. Just to give an example, if these 'gender critical' feminists are going to claim that "facts can't be bigoted", why is it that so many of them want the pro life movement to self censor, or even ban them from protests at abortion clinics? Referring to abortion as killing, and showing pictures of mutilated fetus' is a truth and a reality. Yet the only arguments that people like Kellie have that those people should keep quiet is because it's 'insensitive' to women who had abortions. So there you go, they are actually perfectly fine with censoring reality just for the sake of sparing feelings. They just pretend to forget this when it comes to the subject of being trans. Facts aren't bigoted, but the context of why you're bringing up certain facts can vary wildly with intent, as well as how important it even is.
@@madisonc8886 just day you want men to r-pe and ab-se women in female
Only spaces and be done with it!
When a man tells a woman what a woman can be,you got to laugh
Anyone who believes a man who rapes a woman should be arrested as a woman is sick. This man needs help defending this kind of behavior.
Yeah
Weren't we told to 'believe all women' but suddenly, a rape suspect who claims to be a woman is to be treated with more consideration than the woman who is accusing him. And do we think for one minute that a suspect who has won the right to be called a woman will lose this right if he's found guilty? Dowler is gaslighting us.
It's all about 'equality' but for some reason according to the law women can't be charged with rape and women get prison sentences for less time when they commit the same crime as a man, f'cking hilarious!
@@secondchance6603 Not in cases of child neglect/death/abuse etc; a woman, certainly over the past 12 months in the UK, get a tougher sentence.
@@secondchance6603 how much more disturbing that the woke mobs have basically granted permission for rape. How telling actually of their real personas.
J K Rowling is just telling the truth...
That's why they hate her. The truth will set the rest of us free from the narcissistic abuse of the T. They can't have that.
Women like her talk about how strong and independent women are, until trans women get involved then all of a sudden helplessness is conveniently back into play
@@lavlmoon what abuse? What abuse from trans people do u get?
@@juliethompson4899 the cotton ceiling, males in women's spaces, males in women's prisons, males destroying women's sports, the constant gaslighting and denial of reality ("girl d!
@@juliethompson4899 also, women being vulnerable to abuse by males does not mean we can't be strong or independent. Males will always have denser bones and more muscle mass than female humans. This is an inescapable reality and no amount of medical transition or magical thinking can change it.
My MALE partner just said "What I love about this woman is, she is laser-focused, no BS, no flannel, whereas he is all over the place!"
'Facts don't care about your feelings' - go, K-J!
Exactly 💯
The question should be "Is the Trans-Mafia misogynist?" And of course the answer is a resounding, "YES!"
Exactly, good people are often too busy defending themselves from ridicule, attack & character assignation that they fail to identify and point out the true nature of their aggressors.
Their nature needs to be pointed out and held to account. These woke-extremist-ideolog activists display all the signs of cluster b personality disorder.
Delusion, entitlement, demanding privileges, attention-seeking, gaslighting, victim playing, victim-signalling, b/w thinking, reversal of victim-offender, scapegoating.
Kellie is 100% correct. The other guy sounds like a cult member talking nonsense
Or a Perv.
@@tbay101 why not both?
Did you spell cult right?
@@raychambers3646 🤣🤣🤣
He sounds like he hates women
even if Kellie-Jay is the only person in the world who thinks like she does shes still right.
She's not the only one.
@@aesthete8033 Definitely not the only one!
I’ve come into this debate rather late, but who was that twat on the right?
@@Johnny-sj9sj 🤣🤣🤣 that’s just what I was about to ask. What a ****ing absolute tosser he is. I’m still trying to figure out what the hell he said 😂
@emerald In what kind of democracy do you live in your country when saying this gets you in trouble?
No gender ideologue has a chance against Kelly. I nearly feel sorry for them.
She's actually not being honest. You should probably keep in mind that there's a little thing called context. The biological difference between men and women isn't the issue. There is a huge difference though between knowing that biological men shouldn't be in women's prisons, and then mocking trans people for how they look, calling them what they don't want to be called just for the sake of it, and even telling them that the mere concept of being trans is offensive and dangerous. Just to give an example, if these 'gender critical' feminists are going to claim that "facts can't be bigoted", why is it that so many of them want the pro life movement to self censor, or even ban them from protests at abortion clinics? Referring to abortion as killing, and showing pictures of mutilated fetus' is a truth and a reality. Yet the only arguments that people like Kellie have that those people should keep quiet is because it's 'insensitive' to women who had abortions. So there you go, they are actually perfectly fine with censoring reality just for the sake of sparing feelings. They just pretend to forget this when it comes to the subject of being trans. Facts aren't bigoted, but the context of why you're bringing up certain facts can vary wildly with intent, as well as how important it even is.
@@madisonc8886 just say that you hate women
I wasn't a huge Harry Potter fan but I am now a huge Rowling fan. She is so brave for staying true to her own beliefs
She is actually not being honest. You should probably keep in mind that there's a little thing called context. The biological difference between men and women isn't the issue. There is a huge difference though between knowing that biological men shouldn't be in women's prisons, and then mocking trans people for how they look, calling them what they don't want to be called just for the sake of it, and even telling them that the mere concept of being trans is offensive and dangerous. Just to give an example, if these 'gender critical' feminists are going to claim that "facts can't be bigoted", why is it that so many of them want the pro life movement to self censor, or even ban them from protests at abortion clinics? Referring to abortion as killing, and showing pictures of mutilated fetus' is a truth and a reality. Yet the only arguments that people like Kellie have that those people should keep quiet is because it's 'insensitive' to women who had abortions. So there you go, they are actually perfectly fine with censoring reality just for the sake of sparing feelings. They just pretend to forget this when it comes to the subject of being trans. Facts aren't bigoted, but the context of why you're bringing up certain facts can vary wildly with intent, as well as how important it even is.
@Madison C I think you need to just relax a little.
I believe and will always believe people are entitled to their own thoughts and feelings. She has a view and in todays society where there are acceptable views and non acceptable views, what JK Rowling has done is incredibly brave.
She has stayed true to her own beliefs and values even in the face of the woke mob and we need more public figures like her to do they same.
JK Rowlings views are common ones. Why do I know this? Because I have lived in the UK all my life and know people (real people not social media accounts) who feel exactly the same as her. These people are from all walks of life and represent all genders, ages and ethnicities. However, all of these people keep their views to themselves for fear of the labels they would get if they speak out.
When people are hiding their true beliefs to please a small segment of society this is dangerous. Think of the Germans under hitlers rule that may not have hated Jews but had to keep quiet and go along with the general consensus for fear of themselves or their family suffering.
All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing and that is what I am seeing daily. It saddens me to see a generation of Britons cowering in fear like this. Britain has always been strong enough to stand up for what they believe even when it's not popular. This is one of the main reasons smaller countries in EU were gutted when we left as often we were the ones to raise concerns when Germany and France (who get more votes as they are larger countries) were pushing their wants on all of Europe. This is why we as a people voted to leave EU even when the media used every tool they had to paint that move as a racist one.
We brits stand up for our values and sod what anyone else thinks about it. We know what we are doing is right and that's all we need to stay strong in the face of bullies.
We Need more JK Rowlings.
Think of all the public figures that knew about Harvey Weinstein and said nothing. All the ones that knew about Epstein and said nothing. Had one of those public figures had the spine to speak up and say something a lot of people could of avoided suffering at their hands. But all these rich movie stars said nothing because they dare put their careers and bank balance at risk. These are the people we have raised up and we wonder why the world is the way it is.
Going against the grain does not make your life easier, it makes it much harder. But you need to be able to look at yourself in the mirror each day and like what you see staring back at you. If u hide your true feelings/values and beliefs out of fear of losing something (job, money, reputation) then u may live a more comfortable life but at what expense? Once you change one thing about yourself to fit in you will be changing things forever as the fashion moves for the rest of your life.
I believe JK Rowling has put the female race first with the things she has said and I look at her as important for womenkind as I do Emily Pankhurst and all the suffragettes. Bravo to any woman that will defend women in the insane society we have found ourselves in.
I have to laugh (sometimes hysterically) on a daily basis when I think of the world I find myself living in. Honestly it's like a bad sci-fi movie. Had anyone told any of us in the 90s what the 2020 decade would look like none of us would have believed it. If you had told me 20 years ago in 2003 I wouldn't have believed it then either.
I hold onto the hope that this is just a fashion and like all fashions once a market is saturated people look at the alternative (usually the polar opposite). I hope for the days where values like family and working hard and being a contributing member of society are valued. Supporting your neighbours. Showing respect to elders. Changing the world whilst looking into the past and learning from mistakes made. Learning about each others cultures and the things different between us as a way of bringing people together. Lastly, respecting views that differ to your own and being able to have an adult conversation about world topics that impact us all. Diversity of views in friendship groups rather than the echo Chambers we see today.
I grew up in the 90s and all my schools were multicultural. All backgrounds and religions under one roof and leave the identity politics and victim culture at the door. When I was growing up, being a victim was not something you wanted to be. We strive to be different and following the crowd was unfashionable. I have to believe we can get back there.
Eminem 1st album was basically glorifying domestic violence and it was one of the most listened to album by teens everywhere. What does that tell you? We are a generation of woman beaters? Or is it we are just attracted to scandal?
Had that album be released today it would likely be banned as not acceptable in society. I believe albums like that start a conversation about whether it's right or wrong and that is good. Send those views/opinions underground and shut down the conversations is when we are in trouble.
This is what I see in today's age several times every day of the year. People shutting down opinions they do not like and it needs to stop for all our sakes.
@@madisonc8886 are you just copying a pasting this.
@stephbrennan2630 I heartily agree with everything you have said. Let's just hope there's a light at the end of the tunnel and things will get back to normal. I worry about my Grandchildren and the world they will grow up in. Thank you for your words. 👏👏
My sentiments exactly!
Sam Dowler is talking nonsense.
Kellie-Jay is talking reality.
Sam Dowler is just another middle class university educated know nothing tosspot
If any of my sons had it turned out like that parasitic protozoa, I would have chucked myself under a bus. No offence, obviously. PS: just to avoid confusion, I’m referring to the tosser on the right.
@@Johnny-sj9sj I assumed so Lol.
@@Johnny-sj9sj Well, I would have thrown him under a bus, but otherwise agreeing.
Sam is misogynist. A man who has absolutely no empathy for women. How brave and progressive he is!
Who is this Sam bloke, never heard of him and I don’t suppose anyone else had until he started talking shite.
@emerald it seems to be so.
He talks about trans women being vulnerable but why is a trans woman's safety more important than a biological woman's? If a born female has been a victim of abuse/ assault by a man and killed in self defence then gone to prison for this particular crime; she is not a threat to society and placing her in the same vicinity as a penised individual harms both her safety and healing process. You've not even thought about the mental health of natural ladies when men enter women-only spaces
@@whatsgoingon4815 lol 😆
My comment of confusion had been deleted, please could somebody tell me the identity of the twat on the right? It’s just that if he were one of my sons, I would chuck myself under a bus. No offence, obviously.
JK Rowling is calling out the freak show.
😅
JK Rowling and kellie J are factually and morally correct to me.
This is absolute madness! I stand with JK Rowling.
I agree mate
@malvina malvina Me too
2 things here, both Jk Rowling and kellie are absolutely right, much respect to them, as for Sam? What a total prat.
Well said.
the self declared trans "minded" Richard O'Brien AKA Riff Raff from Rocky Horror and the writer/composer of that classic has litterally said that trans "women" are NOT real women - also that it made no sense to cast a transexual as Frank N Furter as a transvestite in that bad 2016 tv movie
no body cancels him
Hell - Frank N Furter was the baddie in a womens clothes who axes up Eddie - no one wants that banned like one of JK Rowlings books
She's actually not being honest. You should probably keep in mind that there's a little thing called context. The biological difference between men and women isn't the issue. There is a huge difference though between knowing that biological men shouldn't be in women's prisons, and then mocking trans people for how they look, calling them what they don't want to be called just for the sake of it, and even telling them that the mere concept of being trans is offensive and dangerous. Just to give an example, if these 'gender critical' feminists are going to claim that "facts can't be bigoted", why is it that so many of them want the pro life movement to self censor, or even ban them from protests at abortion clinics? Referring to abortion as killing, and showing pictures of mutilated fetus' is a truth and a reality. Yet the only arguments that people like Kellie have that those people should keep quiet is because it's 'insensitive' to women who had abortions. So there you go, they are actually perfectly fine with censoring reality just for the sake of sparing feelings. They just pretend to forget this when it comes to the subject of being trans. Facts aren't bigoted, but the context of why you're bringing up certain facts can vary wildly with intent, as well as how important it even is.
Warner Brothers and the actors can do what they want, she still gets the money.
I think he might be surprised at how many people actually support JK. I’d say we are the majority.
And the people who posted her address with negative intentions weren’t even vilified.
She only said what every right minded person knows is patently obvious.
Ikr
Yep but the sane aren’t allowed to speak anymore. The world has quite literally gone mad.
He doesn’t seem intelligent enough to understand this issue.
I love the way these men always gasp in horror when they ask her if a fully transitioned man is a woman, expecting her to agree. Then she torpedoes them with , no a man can never be a woman! Cue much spluttering and stuttering and muttering, while she smiles at them. Excellent!
Sam CONSTANTLY interrupts Kellie Jay, it's really unprofessional and extremely difficult to listen to..
“Why would a woman not want to stand up for women’s rights?” Spot on. Sam needs to stop mansplaining.
She's actually not being honest. You should probably keep in mind that there's a little thing called context. The biological difference between men and women isn't the issue. There is a huge difference though between knowing that biological men shouldn't be in women's prisons, and then mocking trans people for how they look, calling them what they don't want to be called just for the sake of it, and even telling them that the mere concept of being trans is offensive and dangerous. Just to give an example, if these 'gender critical' feminists are going to claim that "facts can't be bigoted", why is it that so many of them want the pro life movement to self censor, or even ban them from protests at abortion clinics? Referring to abortion as killing, and showing pictures of mutilated fetus' is a truth and a reality. Yet the only arguments that people like Kellie have that those people should keep quiet is because it's 'insensitive' to women who had abortions. So there you go, they are actually perfectly fine with censoring reality just for the sake of sparing feelings. They just pretend to forget this when it comes to the subject of being trans. Facts aren't bigoted, but the context of why you're bringing up certain facts can vary wildly with intent, as well as how important it even is.
Kellie-Jay sticking to the truth as always whilst making that guy sound frankly ridiculous
You mean the eye rolling queen
@@mimortal She was being polite a lot more than you deserve.
@@orsors2129 Indeed she was. My comment was directed at her opponent.
He made HIMSELF sound ridiculous
@emerald Probably
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"
- George Orwell.
As Rachel would say: “No uterus, no opinion.”
He says “the majority of people threatening JKR are straight males” with zero irony, considering that almost all of these aggressive men who identify as trans are exactly that, straight men.
Kellie, the MAJORITY of Men and women are with you on this, He is a to55er......
He certainly is. He comes over as hysterical.
An absolute knob indeed
@@acousticmotorbike2118 I say old chap, I think you’re being rather harsh on tossers, what? 🧐
Like most issues it isn’t black and white, I don’t disagree with JK but there is a way she could of conducted herself throughout this. He is not “hysterical”
@@acousticmotorbike2118 I'd say he is more of a bell-end than a knob.
She hasn't alienated anyone except those that she is better off without.
Thank you Kelly Jay for speaking common sense.
I could “identify” as a member of the Royal Family, but I sure as hell won’t be allowed inside Buckingham Palace.
I am white, with a ginger hair and ginger beard, and I would sincerely hope they would stop me at the door! Harry, that pathetic numpty, has put us all gingers to shame. I am sincerely thinking of dying my hair black, or something, I don’t know. Decisions decisions…
AMEN....
Nice one! :)
@ Johnny666 . Mate you wish. Your not even close to stature of Prince Harry's piss. I'm sure there's women out there that would take golden showers from Prince harry rather then a night with you son. Good day to u sir
Identify as a peadophile and you might get in.
JK Rowling is correct. 💯💯💯
Kelly Jay is spot on, the other person comes across as a fool who destroys his own credibility.
Oh I am so proud of you Kelly, you're an inspiration and powerhouse 👏 🥰 💛
This man is being aggressive and angry(talking over the top and not listening) and just wants to win an argument probably because he's a misogynist.
@emerald ...just because he's gay doesn't automatically decree him to be a rude,aggressive misogynist,I have lots of gay friends who are lovely,but unfortunately it's the nature of the beast,men who are same sex attracted often don't appreciate women and their role in society or their relationship with them because they do not LOVE them....🫂
He's a leftist. That's all the explanation you need.
labeling him sexist is lame (he might be? but he hasnt proves himself one imo), hes a brainwashed woke type, doesnt neccessarily make him sexist, hes certinaly spout6ing rubbish and a fool,
@@katherinegreen9874 - We have mothers, aunts, grandmothers, sisters and nieces...who we love. I am Gay and I agree with JK Rowling and Kelly-Jay on this issue. To suggest that Sam Dowling is representative of Gay men is not only wrong, it is insulting 🙄
@@paulaitchison2470 ...my man...
Sam: "a trans man can have a cervix"
Me: "So you mean, a woman"?
They want to turn the world upside down
@emerald they are obviously attracted to them. They don't want to be seen as gay or bi, so they'll happily say Trans is a woman 😂
SAM "A trans woman can have a cervix" 😀 Are you serious? Can't you get it, YOU CANNOT CHANGE YOUR SEX,, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? 🙄 🤔
Yes, and he already said they are women when the interviewer asked him at the beginning "who are 'people who menstruate'?"
Sam, transwomen can have a cervix because they are biologically women!! Calling yourself "trans" doesn't alter that fact!!
I love Kellie-Jay so much. A true modern day hero
She's actually not being honest. You should probably keep in mind that there's a little thing called context. The biological difference between men and women isn't the issue. There is a huge difference though between knowing that biological men shouldn't be in women's prisons, and then mocking trans people for how they look, calling them what they don't want to be called just for the sake of it, and even telling them that the mere concept of being trans is offensive and dangerous. Just to give an example, if these 'gender critical' feminists are going to claim that "facts can't be bigoted", why is it that so many of them want the pro life movement to self censor, or even ban them from protests at abortion clinics? Referring to abortion as killing, and showing pictures of mutilated fetus' is a truth and a reality. Yet the only arguments that people like Kellie have that those people should keep quiet is because it's 'insensitive' to women who had abortions. So there you go, they are actually perfectly fine with censoring reality just for the sake of sparing feelings. They just pretend to forget this when it comes to the subject of being trans. Facts aren't bigoted, but the context of why you're bringing up certain facts can vary wildly with intent, as well as how important it even is.
@@madisonc8886 I am one of the gender critical feminists you speak of.
@@Anon00008 Which makes you a hypocrite if you want to ban adults from doing what they want with their own body.
There was about a millisecond in human history with the Me Too movement where women were finally able to stand up and say to men, "It's time for us to talk and for you to listen." But before they could get fully to their feet, a guy in a dress stood up and said, "No, you sit down and shut your mouth. I'm going to tell you what it means to be a woman!" And just like that it suddenly became fashionable again to silence women, to talk down to them, and to even rape them. Democrats in the US and lawmakers in the UK are passing laws that are literally getting women raped, and how revolting it is that this should even be up for debate. Thank you Kellie-Jay Keen and JKR for fighting back!
Men are Men. Women are Women. End of discussion.
Fantasy is fantasy
Kellie is awesome and speaks for 99% of the population
@Iris2.0 you can call 99% of the population clowns, they'll still be correct. Just like you can call a man a woman, and he'll still be a man.
I disagree I would say 99.99%
99.99999999999999%
99% of the people who watch this? Then i agree. I've used the locker room dozens of times before and after hormones and i only had one complaint, and that was early on and when i was wearing male coat and sweatpants because it was so freezing. But she rescinded and we are actually acquantainces now.
@Iris2.0 men don't wear make up and wigs clowns do 🤡
This woman is the Queen of the world.
The Harry Potter cast should be ashamed of themselves don’t like the creator because she has an different view but they still like collecting the cash! Hypocrites! …go Kellie!! Thank god you are speaking up for women!
Why are these transphillic types, so slippery? He is a misogynist without recognizing that he is.
Kellie is a brave woman, a true hero.
She has gd points on some things but a lot she is a bigot
@@mattcall7467 Your name-calling has no power over her or any of us, so you're just wasting your time. We care about facts and reality and don't really care what names are thrown at us for acknowledging those things. "Identifying as" something is simply meaningless & we refuse to lie about reality. If that makes us bigots in your eyes, that's fine...
@Iris2.0 You're really tedious. People must avoid you irl in droves. lol
@Iris2.0 You are so tedious. jfc
@Iris2.0 I've never seen anyone with less self-awareness than you. Lmao
He’s not arguing the issues. He’s just bashing Rowling
As a woman, I really appreciate Kellie for being a true feminist and speaking up about the fact that women's rights and personal safety are being erased right now to appease a very small minority of people. I have no problem with trans women expressing themselves as women, but they need to have their own change rooms, prisons, sports leagues, etc.
They are NOT women. They are MEN. Do you understand that men calling themselves women will always be a threat against women, because they push for laws that erase us. They are also a danger to kids. Men calling themselves women are often predators and use their woman costume or act to lure in kids, because women are much less dangerous to them.
Agree 👍
‘100% are men’ - perfectly said. As always, she’s the only voice to speak up. God Bless that woman!
One word...fetishism
H ow are they vulnerable...they are not a disabled group
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JK Rowling is AWESOME.
Kellie Jay mops the floor with the man once again 😊
Truly baffles me how we've come to the point where simple, apparent truths have been made contentious.
A moment to appreciate Kellie-Jay’s continued correctness.
@Iris2.0 can you define the terms 'man' and 'woman'?
@Iris2.0 please, project harder 😂😂 🤡
@Iris2.0 “men can be women, women can be men, people who disagree are idiots” 🤡🤡
@@faealike4748 Asbolutely right. So much projection, gaslighting. manipulation and utter dishonesty emanates from this vile Woke movement
@@apebass2215 dont bother engaging it's a fake Troll account..... 🙄 just report it
100% percent with Kellie Jay Keen on this.
He did not say that ALL trans women were threatening JK Rowling. He was using Conversational Bullying tactics.
``a trans man can have a cervix, a trans man can have a child.`` I haven't laughed so much since granny fell down the stairs 😂
She’s speaking for the rest.of us who have no platform! Thank Goddess for her!!
She's actually not being honest. You should probably keep in mind that there's a little thing called context. The biological difference between men and women isn't the issue. There is a huge difference though between knowing that biological men shouldn't be in women's prisons, and then mocking trans people for how they look, calling them what they don't want to be called just for the sake of it, and even telling them that the mere concept of being trans is offensive and dangerous. Just to give an example, if these 'gender critical' feminists are going to claim that "facts can't be bigoted", why is it that so many of them want the pro life movement to self censor, or even ban them from protests at abortion clinics? Referring to abortion as killing, and showing pictures of mutilated fetus' is a truth and a reality. Yet the only arguments that people like Kellie have that those people should keep quiet is because it's 'insensitive' to women who had abortions. So there you go, they are actually perfectly fine with censoring reality just for the sake of sparing feelings. They just pretend to forget this when it comes to the subject of being trans. Facts aren't bigoted, but the context of why you're bringing up certain facts can vary wildly with intent, as well as how important it even is.
@madisonc8886 Even if Kellie did mock trans women over the way they looked who cares? They mock men and women all the time though it's more so women who get mocked than men. I myself, mock trans women as they look as if a cat dragged them back into the house and parked them at their owners feet. Kellie is concerned about, not only her safety, but every other woman's safety and I agree with that.
Yet another excellent performance from Kellie-Jay, comprehensively wiping the floor with a rather obnoxious, smug, yet dangerous (to women and girls) individual.
Really? All she really said is that she doesn't think there is such a thing of Transgender
@Iris2.0 Totally. I just read that there is going to be new facilities in prisons, so her argument is going to be if not already redundant.
@Iris2.0 typical male response SHES JUST BITTER WAHHHH
@Iris2.0 so much projection...
@Iris2.0 I'm massively obsessed with reality and truth, give it a try one day, it might help your trolling effort.
when 'relativity' is the building block for your society you get debates like this.. I feel desperately for Kellie..
Phobia means irrational fear. Her fear is rational because of death threats
Poor Sam. What a plonker. Kellie-Jay is marvellous and represents the vast majority of British people. Love seeing her demolish idiot after idiot. JKR is a principled woman standing up for the rights of women and children. Those who refuse to see this evidently care for neither women nor children. Nor gay people.
She's waded in to this debate because she has every right as a woman to defend women's rights just as you Sam are entitled to your right to free speech....
She’s waded in because it’s her job to spread hate against trans people.. I bet her family are sooo proud! She’s vile
@mattcall stop spreading the woke lie- if you disagree with some one it is “hate/violence.” Women and girls are being viciously verbally abused & cancelled when we try to defend our sex based rights. The USA girls who were beaten by 38 sec by male swimmer have to share there upset anonymously because of this fear of abuse. We are being silenced & cancelled by bullies. That is hate.
@@mattcall7467 stop embarrassing yourself
@@mattcall7467 actually her family are wonderful and supportive as are the majority of the Uk. So.. keep reaching bigot and misogynist
@@mattcall7467 twaddle
The Polanski comment ended that entire argument… KJ is a hero 🦸♀️
Why is it always men arguing with women about who is a woman, what is perceived as dangerous to women, and what women's rights are?
I'm afraid Mark Dolan allowed Sam Dowler to shout over Kellie-Jay Keen far too often in this debate.
It only made her look even better she remained utterly cool and collected and that says a lot
3 out of 3. Harrop, Tatchel and Dowler. She's scalped them all
🤣
And India on this morning
So if a 40 year old man says he identifies as a 6 year old girl can he be allowed to join a classroom with young kids ? This is getting silly. So agree about those kids in her movies. They are despicable .
We love you Kellie
Dude here basically said "if Rowling would simply shut her mouth...."
It's what misogynists have been saying & doing for centuries
That lady is so right I am behind her all the way
A man (trans or otherwise) cannot have a cervix or have a baby. That guy is insane.
Her best line was I'm not a vet but I know what a dog is 😂🇬🇧 good on Kellie she is totally right.
This POS never been a woman in a public loo with a trans. I have and I can tell you it's extremely unpleasant. No he didn't get violent but I was very aware of his 6ft tall presence and he was just loitering in there. Not using the mirror or sink or toilet. Just standing around what for?
Getting aroused...
He was being a perv exploiting the law for his own seedy mind.
Wow I’m so sorry you went through that I’d scream at him to get out
He was probably looking for the urinals
Give him a chance , new surroundings 😂😂😂
Kellie-Jay Keen is sane thankfully
You know someone recognises they've lost the argument when they start speaking over the other person and rolling their eyes ... well done KJ keep giving numpties like this Sam hell.
The question is not why JKR 'waded in' in defense of women. The question should be, why do TRAs protect rapists rights over womens' as long as they 'identify as' women? Rapists rights > womens' rights? I don't think so. Thank you Kellie-Jay
What a prat Sam Dowler has made himself look. Should be cancelled along with the second rate actor's in Harry Potter whom J K Rowling made multi millionaires. Disgusting!!!!
My thoughts too👏👏💯👍
I've been cancelling these 3 ungrateful brats first time I've heard of their behaviour! Will never watch a HP movie again - but will forever read JK Rowling's great books.
He seems to miss the point that giving trans people self ID rights takes away the rights of women. Why should women be made more vulnerable to crime just to make a small amount of people comfortable
100% AGGREE
EXACTLY
Why does it matter that they’re a small amount of people? If they were the majority.. would it be ok to make women more vulnerable to crime?
But he dismissed "Men who just put a wig on"
I would've asked him why & on what grounds. Where is the line?
Man thinks women shouldn't have a say over who is allowed to share their protected spaces. Nothing misogynistic about that.
Kelly-Jay and JK Rowling are in the right on this issue.
So Sam would recommend women stay silent on an issue that impacts them? NO! NO! NO!
You are right though Sam, it’s not about criminals, it’s not about an individual’s vulnerability. It’s about biology. Fact. Simple.
And Sam has no thought to the vulnerable and emotional feelings and self identity of a young girl.
It is strange how celebrities are readily agreeing to usurp a woman's identity in biology, language, health, physiology, sport, changing rooms, prisons, refuges, safe spaces, even in the recording of statistics - for the very few.
@@fabiennemitchell2371 It makes sure they keep working, it's all about the money not principle.
JK Rowling has the right to voice her opinion ! Warner Bros have gone woke because they don’t have a mind of their own !
Warner Bros has the right to voice their opinion.
@@matthewb9621 Warner Bros. isn't voicing their opinion though. They're simply agreeing with the woke mob so they won't be cancelled. Take money off the table and they'll agree with JK Rowling.
@@chilvari Warner Bros is one of the production / distribution companies on 'The Matrix' which is directed by not one but two transwomen. They obviously recognise Trans' people - unlike others here / in the video. They are also not financially missing out on the Harry Potter franchise! I think they are voicing their opinion.
@@matthewb9621 you mean two trans identifed males
@@Thatssomebadhatharry1 Nope!
Utter madness I am with Kellie on this.
The burning the witch analogy is 100% spot on. Hundreds on years ago, people who wanted to accuse and cancel used a stake to burn them on, nowadays, they have the internet. Same thing. Weird times we are living in.
100% agree with Kellie in this, along with J.K Rowling as well. Nothing she said was remotely transphobic, it’s just people twisting her words to suit their own agendas.
It's great that you can read the minds of millions of people/ You think wanting to ban trans people from doing what they want with their own body is okay? What happened to my body my choice?
@@madisonc8886 no one is banning trans people from mutilating themselves. stop lying. you’re manipulating here in all your comments
Love that all the comments are in support of Kellie Jay. She's right, and her work is so important
Yeah, it feels good to come here every now and then to have a healthy bath of sanity...
Sam Dowler is ridiculous.
Why the hell are we allowing the lunatics out of the asylum
KJK Brilliant as ever.
As a gay man myself I feel ashamed of LGBT+. We can't have a decent conversation and respect JK Rowling and woman spaces. ( Please general public don't think all gay man thinks the same).
I found it mindblowing when was between the 70s, 80s the LGBT+ had the woman support all the way and now we see turning our backs on them
Yes
@@garyc9908 Thanks mate!
The real question is: why do people spend so much time worrying about "phobias" that aren't real. Is anyone actually "afraid" of frock-wearing men singing "I will survive"?
Kellie is fab! I love how just when I'm trying to think of what I mean, she says it!
If trans people are vulnerable, as new places are being built, build them with trans bathrooms, where anyone who is uncomfortable with what they were born with can go, then they can all be happy, and cosy together.