Sony A7RV Hands On Initial Review | AI Autofocus Perfection?
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- The Sony A7RV boasts AI autofocus, 61mp, 8k video and 8 stops of IBIS performance...but is it worth it?
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0:00 Shot with the Sony A7RV
0:28 Intro
0:51 Specs
1:21 Hardware
4:29 Autofocus
8:05 Video
10:58 Image Quality
12:10 Frame Rate and Buffer
13:54 New Features
15:30 Should you buy it
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Your videos are really made well. They stand out so much more then other TH-cam video creators. Keep it going!!
Means so much!!! Thanks
I'm a tilt screen shooter but this combines the best of both worlds, amazing!
Agreed!
It seems like Sony is listenning to their customers and to what they want.
It should be an example for Nikon.....
Nice review Dan.Thanks.
Good review, like sample pictures
I used to shoot for most of the import magazine back in the day. I wish we had this technology then. Cameras these days are soooo good.
I keep tracking with eye autofocus enabled on my front shutter button all the time and a back button set to single point autofocus. That way when it's trying to select something I can always just hit that single back button to single point focus on whatever I want. When I let it go we're back to tracking with the front button.
I really enjoy Your unbiased initial review. From all the A7R V reviews I've seen today Your is the best. Keep up the good work! And as for the camera itself, it's a really good product and in My opinion worth upgrade if You're a hybrid shooter. For stills only I would keep the old IV and save money for something else.
That means so much! I agree, for hybrid shooters, this is a big upgrade
DONT WAIT GET THIS FANTASTIC CAMERA NOW !!!
I sold my A1 for the A7RV, recently, and don’t miss a beat. Granted, the A1 is truly a professional tool, but with Sony not updating its firmware, it is a superb platform that’s been allowed to wither on the vine.
Amazing content bro. I am very happy with my Nikon d850 but after 5 years in time to change. And I am making video docu of my work so…
My A7R4 resold to get this new masterpiece A7R5 now !!!
The features are so darn amazing. Not just the A.I. intelligent focus, but the video features are now on par with the rest of Sony's 4th generation cameras. Cannot wait to pick up the a7RV soon.
It's crazy just how many new features Sony's introduced since the A7RIV
@@learningcameras Darn right! It's definitely the R model I've been waiting for. I'm glad I skipped out on the a7Riv and waited for the a7RV. I know for sure once i get the a7Rv, i won't be upgrading for the next 5-7 years.
@@harryvuemedia5106 how has been your A7R5 so far ? and how is it compared to A74 ?
@@neethuandthomasphotography I haven't bought my own a7R5 yet but I played with my friend's a7R5 for a week. It's pretty amazing especially the hybrid screen. Compare to the a74, both has its their pros and cons. But for sure the a7R5 blows it out of the water with its 8K resolution, AI autofocus and 61 megapixels. Once i get this camera, I won't need a high megapixel 35mm camera for 10 years! My a7R3 was great for its time and it is 4 years old so its time to upgrade. I use my a7R3 a lot for portraits and landscape photography. I think when going beyond 61 mega pixel, you might as well go medium format to hit the 100 mega pixel sensor like Hasselblad and Phase One. Otherwise, 61 mp is enough for me with portrait photography!
@@harryvuemedia5106 I think for wedding Photography A74 will be a better option right ? 33 I feel like a sweet spot.. 40-45 I feel perfect for multipurpose photography though.
I’m not sure if you change anything in the background or not but studio looking nice ! And so does all these shots !! / video🔥
Appreciate that man!
You mentioned that the rear LCD screen was the same as previous models, but according to specs, this A7R5 has a 3.2 inch LCD, whereas previous models were only 3 inch. However, I am certainly glad you brought up the quality of the LCD and the fact that Sony are considered cutting edge in screen manufacturing. It's bewildering to me that they don't use this to their advantage and have a class leading rear LCD on their cameras.
I think that spec is actually incorrect. On the spec sheet Sony originally showed me they had a "3.2 screen" spec on there and I told them it was awesome they were increasing the screen size. They then told me that was referring instead to the 3 axis rotation + 2 axis tilt which I told them was confusing and after using the camera, it looked like the exact same size 3" panel as the other cameras. So I think everyone saw that spec and thought that was a screen size increase but I'm almost certain that's incorrect.
@@learningcameras wow, that would greatly annoy me if that's the case, because it's one of the main reasons I ordered it! Thanks for the info
Hopefully the a9iii will have a ~30MP sensor with 6K60p internal (RAW) recording and oversampled 4K60/120p with full sensor readout. If photography was all I ever wanted the a7RV would be great but these crops are a real bummer for me. Oversampled video footage is just so much more beautiful.
just ordered the A7R5 when they A9 III will come out ? chances are i ll get it also !!!
@@alexfournier9956 presumably in the first half of 2023 but who knows if the ongoing chip shortages will allow for that to happen
Coming from an A7R 3 this seems like a no brainer.
Really good review Dan ! Not just specifications. Quality of your videos is outstanding as well. And I also like the fact you can compare between different systems. This price bump on the A7R5 makes the Canon R5 an even more compelling camera. I won’t buy one mainly because of the lens choices on the Sony but still. And the R5 is 2-years old.
Edit: although I checked and the Canon is £300 more expensive in the UK at £4,300
Really appreciate that Gil!!! That's interesting the R5 is more expensive in the UK
@@learningcameras we are always ripped off in the UK.
This is an amazing video.
What you do is a dream for me, I am a starter cinematographer but I don't have a sony camera of my own, I just rent cameras for my jobs. I would be out of the moon if I could get any of your old cameras to improve my work. Thanks
This camera sent the compilation back to the drawing board
Hi Dan, I'm struggling to connect A7RV to the computer for shooting products. I can't connect to image edge, smartshooter4, or zoom. I'm using the same settings as I did fir the A7rIV. Any help is appreciated.
What would be your preference between the Sony A7R5 and the Canon R5 if you were doing both video and photography?
Hello I had a question, for someone who is wanting to get serious with photography (wedding , portrait, street and landscaping) coming from an a6400.
I have a budget of $5000 , would you recommend buying a used A7iv and investing into a GM 70-200 2.8 ii
Or
An A7V with a sigma 85 1.4? ( I already have a sigma 24-80 2.8)
Most excellent video and production.
Thanks Kevin!
Great review, I've got one ordered. But I didn't come here to say that... I came here to say awesome yellow and red Pumas!!! Where can we see the photos you took of them?
Awesome!!! I have a few over on my IG @learningcameras or you can check out the cars here: instagram.com/sp2_gentlemen
compare with fujifilm gfx100s what should I choose?
Pretty close to convincing myself to upgrade to this body, but damn, I wish Sony would start pushing the mechanical shutter FPS up to at least 15-16 in compressed raw and 12-13 in uncompressed.
I'm looking for a 85% photo 15% video camera. Coming from a M43. Is this a good camera to select?
Hi love your video I am tossing up on the A7RlVa or the A7RV not sure just now
So most of the upgrades are on the video side so if you shoot video at all, the A7RV is a MAJOR step up. For photo along, there are some minor differences so probably tough to justify
Hey Dan! Awesome video 🎉 What lens were you using on those car stills? And last question, thoughts on this body for a webcam as well? Would be awesome (more novice) to be able to record videos with the AI AF, take amazing stills, and 3:4:1 high end web cam it for news interviews and TH-cam etc. thanks!
Hey! So I used the 50mm F1.2 and 24-70 GMII for pretty much everything on the cars. Occasionally I'll pull out the 70-200 as well. So I didn't get a chance to test this one for webcam but it uses the same system as the A7IV which I have tested and it works really well. The only problem is the menu for getting this to use as a webcam is a nightmare and there are settings in like 3 different places for changing how the USB functions and camera controls that need to be set first. But write the setup procedure down (it's only like 3-4 steps) and you'll be good to go.
I can't view the ARW files on my macbook pro even after updating my OS to the latest operating system except importing the images to lightroom. please how can i get solution to this because i usually preview my images on my desk
top before moving them to the lighroom.
I don't normally shoot handheld but I did when asked to shoot an event. The ergonomics of the Sony was very uncomfortable but the remedy is just to get a battery grip. Third party options can be had for $40. I like the option to change the size of the camera as opposed to just having a larger body.
Definitely helps with the grip but if it was just 1/4 inches bigger, I feel like it would fit the hand better. In a $4000 camera, I'd like to see ergonomics a higher priority
… yes, everytime I put a small lens on my Sony, I‘am glad not to use these bulky R3 or Z9 bodys - especially on a gimbal. But for the 70-200 GM II or the Tamron 35-150 I use the battery grip. It’s a perfect solution for me.
I’m a stills photographer, that works with models, that owns the 4th. I never moved the screen since I owned it, never used video. Thanks for not being a chill. The same picture quality. I never had issues with focus on the 4th. So, I guess I wait for ar7VI (6), a medium format from Sony, or move onto another brand that has a medium format. I’ve owned every R model that Sony has produced. I can’t justify paying for a premium for buying my same camera again. 16:48 my exact thought
What gimbal is that @ 8:12 ?
Does it come with that extended grip/arm part or is that an attachment?
The Canon R5, R6, R7 and R3 all have the deep learning technology. Sony is 3 years behind here. Great honest review I will not be upgrading the A7riv.
Thanks! I have the Canon cameras you mentioned. I think Sony's subject identification is better so the deep learning part, but the rest of the autofocus system is probably better on the Canon
@@learningcameras lol of bud
Hi Dan, great review as always! May I know does it shoot 10fps mechanical for JPEG? I'm thinking of getting it for soccer photo shooting. This or A7IV or A9II. Still debating.
Hey! Thanks Tim. Yes, it will shoot up to 10fps mechanical shutter in jpeg or compressed RAW at the full 61mp
What did you use to shoot the b roll of the camera on the tripod? It’s very very clean!
Using the A7SIII
Awesome review dan! Hows the lowlight noise on the A7RV when compared to A7IV for both stills and video?
Thanks! So pretty much unchanged for photo and maybe slightly better in video thanks to to the new processor. But the sensor is the same so photo quality is pretty much static although there were some changes to the color science
The canon R5 does have deep learning autofocus which is ai. Canon implemented it first with the 1DX mark iii
It does and I called Sony out for calling this AI because it doesn't feel like AI but I do think Sony does a better job with that deep learning aspect. Once the Sony identified the subject, it is less likely to get confused in my opinion than the Canon cameras. Obviously Canon AF is incredible now, but the deep learning aspect I think is better on the A7RV
For cross-shopping purposes against the Canon R5, let’s not forget that Sony comes with Sigma, Tamron, Viltrox, Samyang, and other glass options that Canon no longer does. For me, glass options are this camera’s “killer app” relative to ANYTHING Canon offers. If this camera even comes anywhere close to the R5 in specs/performance, the ecosystem makes it a no-brainer, for me.
True. Every time I see a Canon executive, I beg them to open the line to 3rd party lenses. I honestly believe they will eventually but I think they are trying to build their own lens lineup first. I could be wrong but I just can't see them holding out more than another year or two most
I would also expect Canon to reverse course, eventually…this seems like a short term cash-in on their existing “install” base, and is not likely sustainable long term.
The only thing I’ll add is that presumably third party manufacturers would need to restart their development pipelines and scale up their production capacity. All of that carries lag time…meanwhile, development continues full steam ahead on e-mount. Sony’s lens catalogue is only growing while Canon harvests the profits from their almost 50% market share.
TL;DR - I don’t think this is getting corrected any time soon, even if Canon reversed their decision today.
Finally focus stacking!
Yep! You do have to assemble the stack in post though
@@learningcameras true, but still better than nothing. The camera apparently saves the files in a separate folder so that it's easy to distinguish from other photos taken. BTW your cars and vehicle shots never fail to amaze!
Is it technically possible for the A7IV to get this feature via a firmware update or is a different processor needed?
@@billme372 It should be technically possible. Other than the subject autofocus system, the standard camera uses the same processor as far as I know. Not sure that they'll do it but it should be possible
Hi :) I can`t find how to set the R V to APSC crop mode..??
:)
Sony is killing Nikon and Canon with innovation. Even simple things like the multiple flip screen angles. Nikon and Canon Executives should be slapping the hell out of every one of their engineers right now.
Lol for the same price you get the R5 which is 2 years old and still better than this camera 😅 enjoy the floppy screen 🎉
I have a Canon 6D and a 80D but am thinking about upgrading to mirrorless. I've been considering switching over to Sony, especially once the a7rV was announced but wondering if you would recommend going with the Canon R5 since I've got good Canon L glass as well as Lensbaby lenses with Canon mount. It seems from this review that you think they're pretty much on par level?
The Canon R5 is on a MASSIVE sale right now so I might jump on that since you already have some Canon lenses: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1547009-REG/canon_eos_r5_mirrorless_digital.html/BI/19484/KBID/11716
But overall they trade blows with the Canon having higher frame rates for photo and video and the A7RV is probably the better camera overall with better dynamic range, more native lenses, better autofocus, and more features. That said we might see a new Canon R5 with some minor updates in the next 6 months
one year later and I think this video is great. I am deciding between the A1 and the A7rV I am starting a new gig of sports photography (baseball for a minor league team) and I do a lot of wedding videography. the rV features draw it to me but the power of the A1 pull me away. With the upcoming update to the A1 do you have an opinion?
I'm honestly torn on the A1. It could use the update but the A7RV will still have quite a few things the A1 doesn't have. But to me, I'd rather get the A7RV + A7SIII than the A1 by itself so if it were me, I'd be getting the R5 bhpho.to/3SSx8fl and then adding the A7SIII or FX30 later if you want 4k120 and some other features. The A1 is just too overpriced right now to buy
For me the biggest disappointment with this camera is the burst rate at 10fps only in compressed raw, I would have been really happy with a slight upgrade and I was expecting 10fps uncompressed and 12-15fps compressed. That 1 spec alone is a deal breaker for me personally, also was the reason I didn't get A7 IV, Sony doesn't seem to have a direct competitor to the Canon R5, maybe they are saving that for the A9 iii?
I'm considering the A7RV with the Sigma 24-70 f2.8. I don't really shoot any video, only stills. I do everything, but especially a lot of event and low-light work. Barring other factors, what would your recommendation be for a full frame mirrorless and a fast walkaround zoom under 6k?
So if you don't need to shoot video, the A7RIV has basically the same image quality and the autofocus is still great so if you can live without the flip screen and a few other new features, I'd save the money and get the A7RIV used if you can...B&H has an open box one for a great price: bhpho.to/3NxCZSV . If you shoot video though, the RIV is worth the upgrade. The Sigma lens is great so that would be a great kit
I want to start a small video production business, and I am considering this camera as well as the A7s3 and the FX3. I would love to have a hybrid camera for photography as well, but my main focus is videography. Would you recommend this camera over the other 2 in terms of video? At least would be on par with the others, especially for low light performance and indoor shooting? I hate noise.
So for video only, I'd get the S3 or FX3 since they give you full frame 4k60, 4k120, and have better low light performance than the A7RV. The RV would be better for photos or at least as a hybrid camera where image quality matters quite a bit
@Dan Watson Thank you
I still don’t understand why there is no frame rate difference between mechanical and electronic shutter on Sony cameras. On my XT2, there is a significant speed increase. Not that 10fps is not enough for me but still….
Any thoughts on WB and skin tones? I thought I heard it was improved potentially using some of the AI features.
I was actually talking to Manny Ortiz about this exact thing the other day. I noticed the colors were different than my A1 and it rendered blues just like my Canon. Manny said he noticed less yellow on the skins as well compared to the A1 and it was more like the Canon so it does seem like there has been some changes to how the camera renders certain colors. I will say the blues were less accurate to how things were in real life (less teal) but it was basically identical to the Canon R5
Excellent first review!👍 I am wondering now, if I keep my R5 or switch to the A7 RV...🤔
Thanks! I wouldn't switch unless there was something you are unhappy about. There are a few advantages to the R5 still and that camera will probably have an update in the next year
what's the point in keep on switching from one brand to another , these are all amazing Cameras even R6 , a7R4 , FUJI XT-4 ...They all will do the job ..people are crazy these days ..
@@learningcameras Thank you very much! 👍
@@neethuandthomasphotography 😀That's the reason why I am asking, in order not to get crazy! 😁 Thanks though for your answer!
Nice
Just makes me want an a9iiii
… a9 IV or a9 III. 😄
Should I buy this if I already have the Sony a7s3?
I think it's a great complimentary camera...much better for stills but works great as a B cam for video
I'm guessing it's not blackout free whilst shooting and panning 10 fps ? Great video Dan.
Yes and no. It's only mechanical shutter at 10fps but it also doesn't show you a live preview so your seeing your last image in the display. Thus you don't see the blackout because your seeing your last image not a live view
@@learningcameras Thank you Dan, really interesting to know. 😊
I have the a7riv and have been extremely happy with it. Over 300,000 on the shutter count. Still works great. I hate that Sony is still going with the cf express type A cards. They are just too expensive for what you get. Why not type b cards? I have the Sony A7iv and the a9, I and plenty happy with uhs -ii cards but with the A7iv I bought one 80gb type a card for $180, that’s crazy. And it sucks that they continue to use this card to get the full amount/performance with the camera. I love my Sony cameras, but if I bought the a7rV I would only use uhs-ii cards and not getting the fastest performance out of the camera. it’s just a bummer
The advantage is with since and that you can use SD in the same slot so definitely an advantage to type A but the price is freaking insane
I’m keeping the iv, i decided to skip this model, because it would be the same quality. I’m not paying a premium for the same camera.
How many MB are Uncompressed Raw files?
First honest review so far
Thanks Ali!
Just trying to determine this vs the A1. I do zero video but curious about the high iso performance
As soon as I have raw support I'll test that. I have the A1. The other big difference is frame rate and being able to use the A1 silently without rolling shutter or banding
@@learningcameras For photos only the a7RV is great but hopefully, the a9iii will have a ~30MP sensor with 6K60p internal (RAW) recording and oversampled 4K60/120p with full sensor readout. All I'm asking for is oversampled full footage without a crop. I bought a 14mm f1.8. I don't want to lose a single mm to a video crop!
Very nice review! What about the colors, sony vs canon?
Sony has gotten MUCH better over the years with color. I still technically prefer Canon most of the time but I can pretty much always get colors I like with Sony, especially for stills since you have much more room in post to edit with RAW files so it's not a major difference anymore
@@learningcameras What about out of camera colors, jpg?
Did you shoot this in São Paulo? I was surprised to see car plates from Pirapora do Bom Jesus.
Good catch! They were actually imported. Here is the owner's IG: instagram.com/sp2_gentlemen
But would you want this or a canon r5 or r6mkii
Current Sony shooter and former canon shooter , I do photo and video and I truly miss the screens on the back of the canons and I shoot weddings . Photo and video
@Marc Estrella,
I shoot with both brands and I believe Dan does too.
Particularly, I have the R5 and R5C. It’s annoying that Canon doesn’t remove the 30min recording limit and the micro HDMI. And not allowing 3rd party lens manufacturers is short term minded. Aside from that, R5 is a great hybrid camera.
But as Dan mentioned in the video, the A7R5 has some big upgrades.
If you care about the lens selection, need to crop for your work, and a hybrid shooter, the A7R5 is a good choice. If you have a A7R4 and a stills shooter, upgrading is an iffy unless you have extra cash and want the latest and greatest features.
If you prioritize ergonomics, skin tones, and high frame rates shooting (stills and videos) as a hybrid shooter (and not annoyed with what I mentioned above), then the R5 is a good choice. The R6 i or ii is good but the R5 is a better all rounder if you can afford it.
What I would like to see more comparisons are the dynamic range, lowlight, and video codecs between R5 and A7R5
A bit of a silly question, but how does the shutter sound compare to the A7IV? Which do you prefer?
About the same as I recall so pretty loud compared to like a Canon R6
so, would you recommend this or the r6m2 or the r5 for a hybrid shooter?
All of them now work really well. The only issue I still have with the R5 is the 30 minute record limit which sucks for interviews, weddings, or even longer youtube videos. Other than that they all have some advantages and disadvantages but none will let you down
Did anyone feel the body get warm with normal shooting? I’m trying to figure out why mine is getting warm. Thanks!
Does the screen have full touch control like Canon and or Olympus?
Only in menus and touch focus
¨quality of the Medium raw file vs full compressed raw, and its real size in MB. thanks
I have a Sony A7RIII and I have started to do video. Is it safe to safe I should upgrade?
Either to the A7IV or A7RV... Whatever fits your budget. Both of those have massive video improvements and are still great for photos
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Can’t choose between A7rV and canon r5 ??? I want to have a hybrid camera. Will much appreciate an advice from you ❤
The ONLY issue with the A7RV as a hybrid camera is that it doesn't shoot full frame 4k60 but for me, that's a pretty big issue since I use 4k60 almost entirely for anything that's not talking head. But, the Canon R5 has a 30 minute record limit which is an issue for long format talking head videos so they both have opposite issues on the video side. On the photo side, both are amazing with the R5 working a bit better for fast action, sports, and wildlife with faster shooting and buffer performance and the A7RV works best for product and landscape photography with it's amazing dynamic range.
@@learningcameras many many thanks for your reply! Anyhow I order a7r v version. Probably because they have also a lot of third party lenses. 😊
Hey Dan, I would love your feedback.
Im a former Canon 70D, 6D and 5D3 user. I switched over to the Sony A7R4 but someone stole it.
Would you recommend the Canon R62 over the Sony A7R5?
Hey! I probably wouldn't go with the R62 OVER the A7R5 unless you shoot 4k60 a ton or need super high frame rates. I personally tend to use the R6II more often since most of my car videos are 4k60 (advantage Canon) and 24MP is enough in most cases, but the A7RV is a more impressive camera overall and you can still shoot 4k60, it just has a bit of a crop so getting wide angle shots is a bit more difficult but otherwise it's solid. Especially since you had the A7R4, I'd probably stay Sony
Could you do a comparison video?@@learningcameras
Ill wait for the next generation R series, if you have a7r IV there is no need to upgrade .
… that’s right. But for me there is no reason not to upgrade the a7R IV. The RV is so much better in terms of usability and features. 🤷🏼♂️
1:11 is wrong, the R IV has 567 points but the R V has 693
So even if you put it in lossless medium it will only shoot 6-7 frames a second?
Yep
Does it have all the AI AF Subject detection in video mode?
Sure does
Still think the Eos r5 is The beter choice. I love canon colors. What do you think?
Can't go wrong either way and the R5 is still better in quite a few ways such as frame rates, buffer, and 4k120 full frame video. Sony just has a few extra features but nothing I couldn't live without
I love how Sony uses the same form factor across so many bodies over the years while upgrading inner parts. It makes life easy for them, and it protects their customer base especially where the grips are concerned. It’s also good for the earth if things work across multiple years in listings of thrown in the garbage.
I don't know how many felt/notice this that his voice is insanely similar to Piximperfect
I know you hated/disliked the A99ii, but the screen on this "amazing new screen design" is almost the same as that camera (and a few before it - around 10 years ago!), just with the hinge moved from the bottom to the side. Amazing how long it took to dust off the best screen design they had by a mile and upgrade it slightly!
Go back and watch my A99II review, I praised the screen like crazy! It's an old video though so I'm pretty embarrassed about it now lol
@@learningcameras haha, I haven't watched it in a fair while, I just never forgot how much you didn't like it! I love mine and am still shooting with it, so the pain lingers. ;-) I just can't believe that no reviewer I've seen has even mentioned that a hugely similar design to this new one was around nearly 10 years ago!
@@cadmus777 hahaha... It was just a stopgap camera because of the translucent sensor and it didn't have autofocus in video and wouldn't let you adjust the aperture which probably angered me too much lol. But the ergonomics on the A99II were better than this A7RV and I'm pretty sure I said the screen was crazy awesome!
@@learningcameras yeah, the video is awesome in manual focus, but the auto limitations are definitely pretty ordinary. You're spot on about the ergonomics, I can't move to a mirrorless yet because they just don't feel anywhere near as good. My dream camera would probably be an A1 in an A99ii body, maybe with the new flip screen change, but I could definitely handle the old design as long as the screen was a new better one. I have a 0% chance of it ever happening, but I wish it would!
Agreed. I criticized the body in my A9 video and A1 video as well. Ergonomics needs to be a larger focus on those high end cameras especially
tried the RV vs the IV, in summary, IMO, not worth the upgrade , unless you are cropping all the time ....IQ is undisguishable for all practical purposes, eye AF for the IV does all that is needed in 90% of the cases
If I don't need the megapixels, should I just save some $$ and get the A7IV?
There are also improvements to the hardware like a better viewfinder, flip screen, new features, better autofocus, and some enhanced video resolution and frame rates so there are a few reasons to upgrade other than resolution
Is there a record limit on 4k video?
Nope
Does this camera "feel" just as fast and responsive as the A1? I rented an A1 for a week and, when I went back to my A7RIV, that's what I missed the most! My camera felt "laggy" and sluggish compared to the A1.
And I don’t mean the AF system or the shooting speed or the buffering, necessarily. I mean the general use of the camera. The menus, startup time, time between switching shooting modes, etc....just feels INSTANT on the A1 in a way that it doesn't on the A7RIV. Additionally, there are definitely times when you have to "wait on" the A7RIV, one example that comes to mind is that, after shooting a short burst (only 2-3 shots) of photos, I can't immediately record a video, I have to wait for the buffer to clear. (this is even when using a 300 MB/s write card, since there is a write-speed bottleneck inherent in this camera)
The overall responsiveness of the A7RV hasn’t been mentioned in any write-ups or videos I’ve found, I’m starting to think there is an NDA Sony made folks sign to not talk about it!
It does feel better and that's because of the faster processor. Sony definitely didn't mention it but most of us have already been using cameras with the upgraded processor (A7SIII / A7IV / A1) so I didn't feel the difference like I did when I moved to those cameras. It's still not lightning fast but you will notice a difference
@@learningcameras awesome, thank you so much for replying!
Wish the gave us better video functionality, really wanted an oversampled uncropped 4k 60 fps.
Yeah, too many megapixels unfortunately. I'm sure photographers would have complained if they dropped megapixels to 50 to pull off no crop 4k60 but I'd personally be fine with it!
@@learningcameras … I‘am sure the 50 MP a1 do the video job right for you. 😏
@@TW-iu9zy It would except the lack of a flip screen means I almost never use it! I have it but literally it's my least used Sony camera just because of the fixed screen. I have to shoot vertically a lot and I can't use it
@@learningcameras … hard to hear, that Sony hasn’t the right tool for you so far. 🙈 Maybe the next a9 will fix it for you.
@@learningcameras Does this camera have a dual gain ISO for video from your experience? I shoot real estate at 12mm for my work and customers, the wider angle is crucial.
She says the camera is small , just curious does she shoot canon? If so which one
Shoots Sony and Canon. For Canon she uses the R5
What in ur opinion is the best economical gimbal for the camera in 2022.
Right now I'm a fan of the DJI RS3 and RS3 Pro. The only ergonomic issue is if you need to shoot vertical video. In that case you either need to mount the camera vertically or check out some other gimbals that allow vertical mounting
@@learningcameras Thnx man. Any feedback for the zhiyun options?
@@kingfisher111 The Weebill 3 looks solid if you have a smaller camera setup. It's been a while since the Crane series has had an update. They aren't bad at all though...I used to only use Zhiyun gimbals until the DJI RS2 came out (hated the original DJI Ronin) but I feel like DJI is doing it better these days
Ok sony where is 85mm gm II, enough of that teasing. It feels like it should be released exactly right now
also where are you a7cii I want it so (a7c is literally like last camera of previous generation, which almost instantly needed upgrade in both software and hardware)
Haha... I'm waiting
I completely agree. It is crazy that it is not out yet!!!
So I checked the specs and the detailed photos of the back display and it is now 3.2 inches and not 3 inches. Do a direct detailed comparison with the A7IV and you will see it goes up higher and lower on the back. It’s only 2.095 mega dots vs 2.359 mega dots of the A7RIV screen.
So the display is actually not bigger. I double checked with Sony because they said the screen was 3.2 "type" in the spec sheet but they were apparently referring to 3 axis flip + 2 axis tilt not the size. I'm seeing that spec as well in a few places but I wonder if they mistook that spec as well. But I checked with the head of Sony and he confirmed it's the same size as the A7RV and it didn't seem bigger to my eyes. That's interesting on the resolution though. I don't know why they can't put a decent panel on the back...it's freaking Sony...half of their business is making sick displays lol
@@learningcameras I guess there is a huge error in their promotion. Since I have screen captures with 3.2" in the promotional videos
@@stevenwaldstein2249 Does it say 3.2" or just 3.2???
When are preorders
Live!
Does it focus in your eyelid instead in your eyeball?
They specifically said in the briefing that now it can notice the difference between an eye lid and eye ball at close range. I didn't test this yet but according to them, it has improved
I don't know what's up with the autofocus hype. I've recently bought a Sony A7 IV and if you can't get in focus what you want with these cameras, you might consider changing hobbies or profession.
I think the reason Sony hasn’t upgraded the screens yet is because they don’t want to destroy the battery life. I’m sure the new processors with the AI and everything else they updated takes a toll on the battery too.
Except the Canon R6 II has an exceptional rear screen (like most Canons) and it has industry leading battery life.
@@ChristopherMarshburn is it the same battery that the R6 mk1 uses? My second shooter used to complain they die all the time.
@@Zomlies Same. Per DP Review “The R6 II uses the same LP-E6NH battery found on many other EOS cameras, although Canon has improved battery life. It gives the R6 II a CIPA-rated 760 shots in power saving mode and 580 shots in smooth mode when using the rear LCD.”
@@ChristopherMarshburn oh nice! I would love for Sony to use a OLED screen, something with nice depth and clarity along the lines of Samsung phones. I always liked their screens.
Is it better tahn the A74 in video prospective ?
Slightly but not as much as you would think. The biggest advantage is better hardware...so the screen is better, viewfinder is beater...things like that. In 4k60 you also only have a 1.3x crop on the RV while the a7IV has a 1.5x crop. However in some ways that could hurt you because the 1.5x crop on the A7IV means when I want a wide angle 4k60 shot, I just use APSC lenses which work perfectly but the A7RV when you use APSC lenses you still need to crop a bit in post to avoid vignetting
Thank very much for the time and rply back .I just wana know one thing is the video clarity of A7RV is crispier than the A74 ?
@@BiratsUncutVlogs No...the A7IV is able to oversample from the entire 7k sensor up to 30fps and even in 4k60 it oversamples from over 5k so as far as the detail on the A74, it's extremely good. I actually use it as my main interview/youtube studio camera because of that. The A7RV has a few autofocus improvements but I find they are only helpful in a few situations such as when tracking humans with a lot of other potential obstacles. The RV with the latest "AI" autofocus system is better able to know the difference between an actual person and something that resembles a person's eye
Yaaaa thats what I wanted to know .Many of the youtubers have said that the A74 over hits very soon .Is this problem going to be a major one or kind of regration after buying this camera ?
@@BiratsUncutVlogs it does seem to overheat fairly quickly. The reason is because of that oversampling though so can't have it both ways unfortunately. I can usually get over an hour but it's tough to get 2 without a break in between. If you need longer, you need the A7SIII that doesn't oversample or the FX3 which has a fan
You missed a big point that Canon's lens ecosystem is closed and very pricey!
It's true but I do believe they will eventually change it. Plus most buyers of the R5 are fine with native lenses but they absolutely need to open the lens lineup! I'll mention it in every Canon video until they do
dynamic range?
Same as the A7RIV so not an improvement but still the best
@@learningcameras I read 4 stops vs 3 for iv. Great presentation!
I think being that I am Sony a7iii user and if I were to lets say upgrade I would say the Z9 is a way better option for only 600 bucks more. I think this camera will not do well in sales with this price.
The Z9 is better on paper for sure but in the real world it occasionally suffers with AF and its crazy heavy so I'm torn
@@learningcameras Z9 Af on a flying eagle is spectacular, more impressive than a girl twirling.
so screen colors still bad right and not accurate ?!
Yep, unfortunately the screen still sucks
No 4K 120fps is silly. It can do it. Firmware limitation. Sony just wants to you to get another camera for that
I'm pretty sure it's too many pixels for full frame. But with a 1.2x crop, they could probably sub sample 4k120 if they wanted
canon regrets naming it r5😂
Hahaha
The "AI" thing is way too misunderstood (and misused, in some way), blame it on manufacturers and general media (not scientific ones though). And we tend to follow this dead-end path.
What it actually is : "deep learning" or "continuous reprogramming" computing system. Everytime some new information comes across, it gets implemented by the OS into the database and the processing starts right away with this new information taken into account.
This means... if your device (here, a camera) does not yet perform to perfection, it just is because the computational structure is working on it. And the improvement shall come, soon, wihtout the device giving any prior notice. But it will come.
So, if this Sony device actually hosts a "deep learning" processing system, within a few days/weeks/months (we can't tell, unless we are the actual programmers) you will feel a better behaviour of your camera's AF system. Keep this in mind, for it may be of some use very soon.
waiting for ai/deeplearning to tell you your shots taken are ugly and give you AI generated alternatives.
Is 4k 60p cropped?
Not as bad as the A7IV but it does have a 1.2x crop
@@learningcameras Thank you
want it bad rn but im broke