I used to work at a company that was outsourced to do QA for League of Legends. I wasn't on the team but sat near them. The team exclusively recruited league players, I think silver of higher ranked only, and put them on these private servers exclusive for testing. They were yelling at each other into headsets at work for not playing perfectly in these testing servers that exist to find and report bugs. They would also yell at each other for trying to reproduce bugs, the job I will remind everyone that sees this they were being paid to do, instead of playing optimally. The leads of the non-League teams at the company regularly had to go to the leads of the league teams to get them to remind their teams that this is supposed to be a professional environment and that other people are either having phone calls or just trying to work in peace. Whatever stereotypes you think of league players they are absolutely true. I've never seen such a toxic community in all my 35 years gaming
A friend of mine told me he wanted to get me into League. Somehow he decided the way to do that was to just invite me and go into a public game. So take all that toxicity and aim it at somehow who literally had never played before and had no idea what they were doing. I did not have fun. I never touched it again.
Whilst yeah, there are a lot of toxic players, I mean a LOT. Like damn. The true amount is also grossly over exaggerated by the rest of people who don't play. If I go home and play 10 games right now, 1 will be toxic because of one player, 7 will be played without a word from anyone, bar maybe people saying GG, 1 will have a troll being a dickhead, 1 will be a positive experience. That's my personal take, but by the same token it all depends on how you play the game as well.
I keep getting people wanting me to play, quit playing shortly after I give in, then quit myself because while not playing the way the people I would queue up with as a solo wound get mad I wouldn't abandon the lane I was successfully holding alone for 5+ minutes to run to a fight on the other side of the map that while outnumbering our opponents they were still losing the fight... Toxic is an understatement...
I just miss good single player offline story based games and couch co op multiplayer games i know they still get made but it feels like good games in either category are getting fewer and further between release
I still play couch co-op games with my dad (primarily Mario Kart) and he is completely baffled that I have three gamer roommates and we have never sat on the couch and gamed together. Don't get me wrong - we DO game together, but in separate rooms, talking via Discord. He can't wrap his head around that. I do admit it's not the same, though... it's kind of fun to start yelling and shoving to try to knock each other off course.
Suggesting people stop after ME2 is bonkers. Even if the ending isn’t perfect, there’s so much closure you’re missing out on in ME3, not to mention arguably the best combat of the 3 games.
Me2 ending it's worst than me3 it had to be changed in me3 because if you play as a paragon Cerberus don't do anything to you after destroying the collectors and they even still pay you for missions and the crew it's ok with you even though you betrayed the boss, me3 retcon all that saying that Cerberus try to capture you and joker with the help of Ed save you.
What Jules said about Destiny 2 being all effed up for new players is spot on. I wanted to get into it but by the time I did it's story had already been carved up, shifted around, and chunks of it flat out removed, and I had zero idea WTF was going on or what I should be doing. Major turnoff.
The "sunsetting" thing is absolutely crazy to me. pay for DLC only to be sunsetted later on, and I just can't keep up with more than like at most 2 online multiplayer games.
Mass Effect 3 is a good game - the ending isn't that big of a deal. The overall game is fantastic and you should play it. It's funny, it has a ton of heart, and has lots of great moments. Everyone wanted more of the ending - we get it - but that shouldn't be enough to not play it. As for FFXV - it's a good game - stop comparing it to FF7. Nothing can top that game. It tells a good story, it's incredibly entertaining, and considering it's production issues, the final edition is fantastic. Play it.
Honestly, I don't know that there are many studios who could have done the end of ME3 any better. The story had become so massive and encompassing, they kind of wrote themselves into a corner. What could possibly bring a satisfying end to a war against an intergalactic race of godlike robots while still involving the wide variety of choices made by the player?
And saying ME2 was a perfect place to leave off is total bullshit. It was a solid second act, but it still left everything set up in the first game unconcluded. I love The Empire Strikes Back, but if that was the end of Star Wars I'd have been pissed.
I liked ME3 the most. The conclusion of so many storylines, combat was better and the citadel DLC is amazing. I do get that people would have liked more endings but the story was clear the crucible was the only way to stop the reapers. How many different ways can you use a galaxy wide superweapon?
Yeah. I thought this might have been a reupload or something until he brought up Palworld. My guess is that it was recorded months ago but just released.
I'm still playing Dragons Dogma and think it's great. Dark Arisen and the addition of the Eternal Runestone does help that though because having to travel across the map each time would be very frustrating.
I’ve tried so many times to get into it, but it just doesn’t grab me. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve been told to give it another try etc. but it’s always left me cold. There’s just no flow - it all feels so clunky and I’ve never had that ‘I get it’ moment like I do with other games.
@@jamesisaphotographer maybe cuz the whole first mission is slow and arguably the most annoying part. I recommend either watching a playthrough or letting someone get u to chapter 2 where u can at least start freeroaming
@jamesisaphotographer I felt exactly the same, it cool the game is so realistic but I feel it slows the game down so much the first game was more pick up and go
I love Mass Effect 3. Sure it has its issues, but I play it because it's fun. I also take great issue with suggesting leaving a game series with a cliffhanger is better than an actual ending, because the ending of Mass Effect 2 is no matter what, a cliffhanger. Was the ending for Mass Effect 3 controversial? Yes. Was it at least better than a cliffhanger? Also yes.
Riot have done a ton of fantastic worldbuilding and have a massive roster of wonderful characters. Maybe one day they'll put them in a game that isn't a toxic exclusion zone.
As a longtime Destiny 2 player, who won't buy the next expansion until it will be something like 5$ :D I couldn't agree more and I'm happy i broke this particular addiction xD
League's community was so Toxic I quit never wanting to touch a social game again, IF you pointed back to a game that closed me off from wanting to interact with people, League is it.
For me my canonical ME3 Ending is that Shepard and co throw the best house party on the Citadel and the Reapers go to Andromeda to harvest those races instead.
When the disasters of 2020 started, a friend of mine moved in with me during the last semester of college. He introduced me to League of Legends during this time, and it was fun playing alongside him (even though I barely knew what I was doing). A few months after he left, I logged in again to try and pick it up again. I could not get a hang of the controls again because I was constantly getting killed before I could reach any minions. I was accused of throwing and/or feeding the whole match. I have never gone back to play since…
When I saw Dragon's Dogma and the mainline Pokemon games on this list, I kind of flinched since I actually still play and love those games to death. I do agree though that there should be some innovation in the Pokemon mainline series. Some world building, though this is just my opinion, would be really nice... maybe building cities and building your league from scratch or something... as for Dragon's Dogma: yeah it didn't age well but it is still fun despite it's flaws.
Concerning Pokémon, I agree with hours overall assessment but I do think it would have more persuasive if had compared it to the non-mainline games. Like, rather than just “it’s just more of the same fun thing you enjoy,” he could’ve pointed to how most spin-offs have consistently been well received. They haven’t always been big sellers, but usually develop a cult following none the less. Despite this, few have received consistent sequels and fewer have had their mechanics incorporated back into the main series. I will say, I haven’t played a newer Pokémon game. I *almost* tried shield. But seeing my wife play it-who did enjoy it-was agonizing. Even into the end game, it seemed like every interaction led into five-minute not-cutscene cutscenes or tutorials. Like, the old man at the beginning of the game boy games were annoying but it was one and done. Shield could not just let you start playing until every mechanic and story beat was set up-I’m gonna stop now, I’m rambling.
yes, League of Legends and several other games have the same crazy problem: the makers INSIST on adding NEW characters nearly every MONTH, which completely changes the character balance EVERY time a new one is released! DOTA 2 and Paladins do the same thing.
I had an issue with this long ago but for the opposite reason. I remember playing eve when people considered her worthless, then you had a few streamers find she was strong. Broken strong. And I had known it for a long time. All characters were viable at most levels of the game. I was gold/diamond elo. But man you chose anything outside the Meta even at low elos, and the toxic would come.
League was good in seasons 1-3, after that only good change they did was making ARAM it's own mode. I tried coming back couple years ago but the new map didn't mesh with me.
@@brandond.7768 Even just Random games if you picked off meta people would go nuts, and just outright quit. Friend of mine use to play Naught Support with me as various AD carries and it worked REALLY well but FFS would we just be assaulted by people saying some of the most Gawd awful things. 2 months later, there's Naught in a LEague worlds game as support.
As far as GTA online, I stopped playing on public servers not because of hostile players, but because of players literally hacking the game world. You would be driving around, and suddenly someone on foot is somehow glitching behind your vehicle, firing an automatic rocket launcher at you. Kill reports would announce that another player was killed by you, yet you were no where near by. Random game assets would be inserted into the world. Players would start fights with everyone else on the server, and would then be invincible to even tank fire. Yeah, it's annoying trying to do a mission where you smuggle drugs and other players could destroy or steal them. But it's not as bad as knowing that some of the other players can rewrite the rules on the fly, and you have no recourse. To my knowledge, Rockstar has never fixed this; in fact, I think it's why they made business/supply missions that take place in the regular game world can be done in private sessions. They apparently don't know how to fix the problem, or don't care.
Dragon's Dogma certainly isn't for everyone, though for a certain type of player, it's gold. No harm at all in admitting if it's not your kind of game. But Mass Effect 3 should be on every player's must-play list. The trilogy in its entirety is a gaming experience the likes of which we might never see again. I know y'all are smoking something there, but really, don't do it at work.
Runescape Classic, now dead. Runescape 2, after it was turned into RS3 it was brought back by an overwhelming desire voiced by the fans. James put out a poll to find out how many people wanted RS2 back and got nearly 500,000 votes. Old School Runescape is updated almost entirely through players votes. If there's not at least 75% wanting something the devs offer, it doesn't get added to the game. I don't play anymore but I still think this is the greatest thing in gaming and love OSRS.
Seriously, we have to stop comparing Pokémon to Palworld. Palworld is an early access game in which you can see everything it has to offer in 2 hours. Pokémon has a lot of flaws and are years behind in terms of performance, but is still more enjoyable.
Being Early Access, I wouldn't even call it a 'game' until that developer decides to officially release it; along with the other projects it also has in EA. They aren't known for actually finishing games; only being copycats. :/
I play Destiny 2. It used to be fun, now it’s more just sticking around until the end. The tutorials for new players were made worse and content that has been paid for was made free and then removed. I don’t recommend it to anyone.
Destiny is worth playing if you have a great team of people to join already, buy dlcs on sale and avoid the cosmetic microtransactions. You can enjoy TONS of it with those alone... But yeah, its got lots of problems. If you enjoy the lore from a distance then you're a huge winner 😅
you can tell this video was made a while ago because you said Dragon dogma 2 is not out yet when it been out for almost 2 months now also Pal world lost a huge chunk of it's player base and is almost dead
I tried playing Dragon's Dogma, but once you reach the city and start getting side quests, it is just a slog. I stopped having fun. Is the second any better?
@garyballard179 I beat one and got 2 and played it for a while combat is top best in class hands down but idk man lore is a big sticking point for me and it just doesn't do it for me
I have to say, both Dragon's Dogma and Mass Effect 3 are fully worth playing today. Dragon's Dogma's fast travel and single-save system are fundamental to it's gameplay, and the quest system is meant to be resolved utilising the environment and things people say, rather than obvious UI 'quest markers' - it's not obtuse, it's just in the world rather than in the menus. And people need to play ME3 if only to know the terror of seeing a Banshee on the field....
Couldn't of explained Destiny 2 any better Jules. Once one of my favorite games ever ( 41, been gaming since the NES/Genesis days ) and trying to come back to it after almost a 2 year break was jarring and absolutely heartbreaking. It's actually impressive the sheer amount of incompetence and ignorance Bungie has accomplished with this one. Really sucks as my son is now old enough to play and I've been waiting and wanting so much to experience it with him, the campaign really was awesome at one point. Now most of the best parts of the story are outright gone, the experience is gone, it all makes zero sense for a new player and is about as soul less as an experience as you can have in gaming. Compared to Destiny 2 in 2020/21 of course. Just got him the Master Chief Collection instead ( $10 sale on Steam ). While me and my friends all loved and rearranged entire houses, apartments and lives just to play it together, I ended up liking Destiny 2 more, for the story/campaign and lore....until logging in a few months ago, seeing what state it is now became one of my worst experiences in gaming, ever. Only thing that can top it is Vic Ireland and Working Designs promising Lunar 3, even stating it was in development more than once, hell it was mentioned in Lunar 2 Eternal Blue Sega CD manual....for it all to be a lie and 25 years later we STILL don't have a part 3 to the greatest JRPG Series of all time. I'm aware Game Arts made Lunar but Vic made the promises. If you're still reading this and love JRPGs, do yourself a favor, get a Sega CD emulator and play Lunar 1 & 2 back to back. Not the kiddie, watered down, cringy PS Complete versions either, just the OG's. Come back and comment if you are a Lunar fan or took my advice, played and now love it too.
Screw you Jules. The mainline Pokémon franchise is great, but Scarlet and Violet have been redeemed with great DLC. Don’t make me regret my love of the Pokémon franchise.
I quit playing League of Legends after 6 years of non stop playing and it was probably the best decision I made in my life. Found a lot more joy and relaxation in single player games and I think a lot of toxic competitive players would benefit from this as well.
Dragon's Dogma......wtf are you on lol. It's still worth laying even with Dragon's Dogma 2 being out. It still has it's own flavor. Also Mass Effect 3.....just dumb....gotta downvote this one sadly lol.
I started playing Destiny 2 in 2018, and it used to be pretty good, but they drove me away with the Solar 3.0 'update' completely removed the subclass I played, which had been great for the story's PvE.
ME3 is worth a playthrough. Its the only game to have crushed me so hard with the choices i had to make that i stopped playing for 6 months. They got me attached to those characters and literally broke me when i couldnt save them all. That is good writing
Pokemon has something that majority of games don't get close to. That's nearly infinite replay ability. No two play throughs will be the same you have so much variety of choice and with gen 9 you can even tackle the challenges in whatever order you'd like. Gamefreak has built enough of something I'd like to call brand equity with pokemon. We know what we're getting with pokemon. If they decide to shake up the formula majorly or shift the tone scale or scope of the projects then the risk isn't worth the reward. As you said they still guarantee to have 2 of the top 10 best selling games any year they release. From a business standpoint there is no upside at all. You can't please everyone after all
Glad to see someone mention the issues with FFXV. It's the 2nd game in my life that I have booted up, started playing, and then sat there open mouthed wondering "is this a joke game?" And I speak as the owner and player of every Final Fantasy game up to that point. 8 years into a FFXIV sub after paying for FFXI for 11 years. I'm done with buying Final Fantasy games from here on out. I've not played FFXVI but it actually looks worse than FFXV from videos I have seen of it.
I wish I could just disable the "consumed by darkness" mechanic in destiny 2... Anymore whenever I revisit the game I bail at the boss fight that has the death sends you back to a checkpoint instead of just respawning like you normally do.
I think everyone knows about the ending of the Mass Effect Trilogy now. If you are going in with the knowledge that the ending is dissatisfying; and again at this point it may as well have a giant sticker on the front stating as much, everyone should play the 3rd game for the story anyway. It’s brilliant and quite beautiful. I am quite sad about how it ended but it is so worth playing. Skipping it entirely due to just the ending is a mistake.
I buy cheap games so ill likely play many games like the ones on this list. Im starting Dragons Dogma one day. Btw maybe the witcher 1 and 2 could count for this list, and im not sure anybody should play The Elders Scrolls 4 Oblivion with its dungeons with one exit only, having to backtrack so much that you have no idea how you escaped such maze.
@@renamoda5450 Oh that's awesome! I wasn't sure if you were trolling or genuinely slipped up. I too love both channels and routinely watch their list videos back to back, now I wonder if I've ever slipped in a comment 🤣 And yes I totally get your point. WCG has had some L takes lately and Jules is only part-time here now, so I don't think he wrote this list.
Yes, the game didn't have the payoff(s) it needed, but the flawed end results for ME3 don't outshine the many MORE reasons to go back to it or introduce other players to it. I'm only annoyed that they couldn't carry over that absolutely stellar PvE multiplayer in the update.
Personally, I feel a bigger blemish on FFXV is having the 'run' and 'attack' buttons the same, so you're partway through running where you want to go, and are suddenly stuck in battle with something you couldn't see ahead of time.
Runescape 3 suffers a similar problem for players that have been away for a long period. I was away from the game for a few years, and returned, only to be taken aback by how things had changed.
The only reason I can’t agree with the Mass Effect 3 take is because the game is absolutely amazing. Mass Effect2 was an incredibly high bar, and the third one honestly blew it out of the water. You honestly can’t give up an experience like that just because the final 10 minutes are a dumpster fire
Destiny 2 having "neglected PVP" is a claim I heard way back when I was playing, and it was a silly thought even then. Neglected, when they force PVE players to play Crucible for PVE gear that's locked behind PVP all the time? Come on.
You know another popular game with a troubling player base people shouldn't play. Warhammer 40k! *laughs in Adeptus sororitus* But not playing is heresy so
Bs there's so much to do in gta online you can play for hours without actually being in the open world (for long) where the scum of the earth dwell. Aside from that I also noticed the smaller the lobby the smaller the chance you run into them, trouble tends to start around 10-15 players
Never put money into a live service game that doesn't have a single player mode. One day those servers will be taken down and it's always sooner than you expect.
I liked your feedback on Destiny 2. I stopped playing a season ago, but I can't lie, it was a great game when I was playing. Aside from the blatant issues in Crucible its a great game
I have broken my Destiny 2 addiction after 3500+ hours but to be honest The final Shape is the last thing I'm buying Destiny related to conclude the 10 years of my life i gave that game and after that I'll be deleting Destiny 2 forever.
Hard disagree on Mass Effect 3.If you've put in the time and effort to get through the first two games, you owe it to yourself to finish the trilogy. I never had a problem with the way it ended, as lackluster as it was, but there was DLC that served to give a better final send off for the series and it is included on the Legendary Edition. Plus some of the character interactions and relationships in ME3 are among the best in the business.
I did love the multiplayer in Mass Effect 2, I played the hell out of that. Too bad they never finished the story, I ended up having to headcanon an ending...
This video must have been in the vault for a WHILE given the entry on DD2 and FF7R saying they arent out yet. I kinda gotta disagree with the Dogma entry though. I didnt play it until the 1st time last year and I absolutely loved it, and it didn't feel archaic at all to me personally.
The pkmn entry stings a bit because Ive been trying to hang on with the series but man...ive been getting fatigued for a while. I love the creature collecting the most and PLA felt like it revitalized my love for the game. Then SV happened and killed it. I really don't buy Nintendo consoles for many games but pkmn is one of them. I feel like Im finally ready to hang up the series and just not get any more Nintendo systems.
You're tripping. Destiny 2 is a great have regardless of the issues. I came to the game 2 years ago and absolutely love it. Every single game has problems and this one still has a killer story, amazing gun play, and competitors who I wish I could match in skill during trials.
Wtf are you on about Mass Effect 3? It’s a masterpiece that is well worth the ride - not matter the ending- and anyone who hasn’t played it is missing out. The same goes for MGSV. It’s a gameplay masterclass! Not playing means you are missing out on the best stealth action game ever! Wtf is this list?
Some hard pills to swallow on this list but I think all of them (that I'm familiar with) belong here. As a big time MGS fan I'm glad to see MGSV on the list. It's a well-crafted game and most people I know who had very high opinions of it had never played other MGS games. I always say it's a really good game, but a pretty terrible MGS game, and that's why non-fans enjoy it more.
I find competitive games a huge turn off. Wish devs/pubs would include a casually balanced mode that dials back things like timing windows, game speed, and whatever other parameters that give these games insane and (unappealing to me) skill ceilings. This would provide a great entry point for new players who want to get good and separate those that just are there to have fun and don’t give too much of af about winning. I don’t want to game using only my lizard brain impulsivity any longer, so I’m not buying most of these games.
You talked about lost ark and never mentioned money. You guys made it sound like the “rng” wasn’t specifically made the way it is to force you to spend money (10s of thousands).
Some friends tried to get me to play league of legends as I was installing it I had a low key panic attack remembering how it was and by the time it was installed I just couldn't do it. I can handle hard gamesI like difficulty I like smashing my head against the wall till I get better but the group of screaming harpies dragging me down as I do it just sucks. Love the game will never play again.
for mmo's ... well im literally just there for the RPG story -- if it has a decent one that can hold my attention -- i dont care about raiding or the 'endgame grind' or min/maxing whatever spec i wanna play ... so i dont ever have to deal with players being dicks about me needing to 'git gud' ...and in terms of games like GTA Online -- well thats why i host my own private 'local to my pc' server when i play dont hafta deal with asshat toxic players if the world is only generating NPCs
I thought this list would be full of cringe, but I actually agree with everything. Mostly at least, you can play any Pokemon game up to Black, White 2, after that the quality of the games just starts rolling down a hill.
I used to work at a company that was outsourced to do QA for League of Legends. I wasn't on the team but sat near them. The team exclusively recruited league players, I think silver of higher ranked only, and put them on these private servers exclusive for testing. They were yelling at each other into headsets at work for not playing perfectly in these testing servers that exist to find and report bugs. They would also yell at each other for trying to reproduce bugs, the job I will remind everyone that sees this they were being paid to do, instead of playing optimally. The leads of the non-League teams at the company regularly had to go to the leads of the league teams to get them to remind their teams that this is supposed to be a professional environment and that other people are either having phone calls or just trying to work in peace. Whatever stereotypes you think of league players they are absolutely true. I've never seen such a toxic community in all my 35 years gaming
A friend of mine told me he wanted to get me into League. Somehow he decided the way to do that was to just invite me and go into a public game. So take all that toxicity and aim it at somehow who literally had never played before and had no idea what they were doing. I did not have fun. I never touched it again.
Whilst yeah, there are a lot of toxic players, I mean a LOT. Like damn. The true amount is also grossly over exaggerated by the rest of people who don't play.
If I go home and play 10 games right now, 1 will be toxic because of one player, 7 will be played without a word from anyone, bar maybe people saying GG, 1 will have a troll being a dickhead, 1 will be a positive experience.
That's my personal take, but by the same token it all depends on how you play the game as well.
I keep getting people wanting me to play, quit playing shortly after I give in, then quit myself because while not playing the way the people I would queue up with as a solo wound get mad I wouldn't abandon the lane I was successfully holding alone for 5+ minutes to run to a fight on the other side of the map that while outnumbering our opponents they were still losing the fight...
Toxic is an understatement...
I just miss good single player offline story based games and couch co op multiplayer games i know they still get made but it feels like good games in either category are getting fewer and further between release
I'm still frustrated that a whole new term had to be invented to describe what used to be the default of multiplayer games.
@@gregbasore2108 right , I just miss having groups of friends or family over and playing good games together
I still play couch co-op games with my dad (primarily Mario Kart) and he is completely baffled that I have three gamer roommates and we have never sat on the couch and gamed together. Don't get me wrong - we DO game together, but in separate rooms, talking via Discord. He can't wrap his head around that. I do admit it's not the same, though... it's kind of fun to start yelling and shoving to try to knock each other off course.
Couch coop, any good game you recomend for pc?
Suggesting people stop after ME2 is bonkers. Even if the ending isn’t perfect, there’s so much closure you’re missing out on in ME3, not to mention arguably the best combat of the 3 games.
Me2 ending it's worst than me3 it had to be changed in me3 because if you play as a paragon Cerberus don't do anything to you after destroying the collectors and they even still pay you for missions and the crew it's ok with you even though you betrayed the boss, me3 retcon all that saying that Cerberus try to capture you and joker with the help of Ed save you.
What Jules said about Destiny 2 being all effed up for new players is spot on. I wanted to get into it but by the time I did it's story had already been carved up, shifted around, and chunks of it flat out removed, and I had zero idea WTF was going on or what I should be doing. Major turnoff.
The "sunsetting" thing is absolutely crazy to me. pay for DLC only to be sunsetted later on, and I just can't keep up with more than like at most 2 online multiplayer games.
That and ud have to pay like 30 or 40 bucks for each expansion to keep up
Mass Effect 3 is a good game - the ending isn't that big of a deal. The overall game is fantastic and you should play it. It's funny, it has a ton of heart, and has lots of great moments. Everyone wanted more of the ending - we get it - but that shouldn't be enough to not play it.
As for FFXV - it's a good game - stop comparing it to FF7. Nothing can top that game. It tells a good story, it's incredibly entertaining, and considering it's production issues, the final edition is fantastic. Play it.
Honestly, I don't know that there are many studios who could have done the end of ME3 any better. The story had become so massive and encompassing, they kind of wrote themselves into a corner. What could possibly bring a satisfying end to a war against an intergalactic race of godlike robots while still involving the wide variety of choices made by the player?
And saying ME2 was a perfect place to leave off is total bullshit. It was a solid second act, but it still left everything set up in the first game unconcluded. I love The Empire Strikes Back, but if that was the end of Star Wars I'd have been pissed.
FF IV will always be my favorite
I will always be willing to fight for ME3
I liked ME3 the most. The conclusion of so many storylines, combat was better and the citadel DLC is amazing.
I do get that people would have liked more endings but the story was clear the crucible was the only way to stop the reapers. How many different ways can you use a galaxy wide superweapon?
Old video? Dragons Dogma 2 been out for a min now lol
No joke, Rebirth as well.
Yeah. I thought this might have been a reupload or something until he brought up Palworld. My guess is that it was recorded months ago but just released.
Yeah, videos are rarely uploaded right after they're recorded- they have editing work to do one them, after all
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It's probably adapting an article from the website that was written awhile back.
I'm still playing Dragons Dogma and think it's great. Dark Arisen and the addition of the Eternal Runestone does help that though because having to travel across the map each time would be very frustrating.
Ashamed to admit I feel this way about Red Dead Redemption 2. I know it's an amazing game, but its just too much game to handle as a working man!
So Youre saying it’s too good? Lol
10 hours in and dropped it like a hot rock for far more exciting games.
I’ve tried so many times to get into it, but it just doesn’t grab me. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve been told to give it another try etc. but it’s always left me cold. There’s just no flow - it all feels so clunky and I’ve never had that ‘I get it’ moment like I do with other games.
@@jamesisaphotographer maybe cuz the whole first mission is slow and arguably the most annoying part. I recommend either watching a playthrough or letting someone get u to chapter 2 where u can at least start freeroaming
@jamesisaphotographer I felt exactly the same, it cool the game is so realistic but I feel it slows the game down so much the first game was more pick up and go
better title would be something like "10 fantastic video games that are incredibly tough to get into"
I love Mass Effect 3. Sure it has its issues, but I play it because it's fun. I also take great issue with suggesting leaving a game series with a cliffhanger is better than an actual ending, because the ending of Mass Effect 2 is no matter what, a cliffhanger. Was the ending for Mass Effect 3 controversial? Yes. Was it at least better than a cliffhanger? Also yes.
Riot have done a ton of fantastic worldbuilding and have a massive roster of wonderful characters. Maybe one day they'll put them in a game that isn't a toxic exclusion zone.
As a longtime Destiny 2 player, who won't buy the next expansion until it will be something like 5$ :D I couldn't agree more and I'm happy i broke this particular addiction xD
League's community was so Toxic I quit never wanting to touch a social game again, IF you pointed back to a game that closed me off from wanting to interact with people, League is it.
League has the most toxic players of all games. ANY other online game can only have a nicer player base.
Oh, hey, Pokemon is going to be 30 years old in a couple of years. You're welcome.
For me my canonical ME3 Ending is that Shepard and co throw the best house party on the Citadel and the Reapers go to Andromeda to harvest those races instead.
When the disasters of 2020 started, a friend of mine moved in with me during the last semester of college. He introduced me to League of Legends during this time, and it was fun playing alongside him (even though I barely knew what I was doing). A few months after he left, I logged in again to try and pick it up again. I could not get a hang of the controls again because I was constantly getting killed before I could reach any minions. I was accused of throwing and/or feeding the whole match. I have never gone back to play since…
When I saw Dragon's Dogma and the mainline Pokemon games on this list, I kind of flinched since I actually still play and love those games to death. I do agree though that there should be some innovation in the Pokemon mainline series. Some world building, though this is just my opinion, would be really nice... maybe building cities and building your league from scratch or something... as for Dragon's Dogma: yeah it didn't age well but it is still fun despite it's flaws.
Concerning Pokémon, I agree with hours overall assessment but I do think it would have more persuasive if had compared it to the non-mainline games. Like, rather than just “it’s just more of the same fun thing you enjoy,” he could’ve pointed to how most spin-offs have consistently been well received. They haven’t always been big sellers, but usually develop a cult following none the less. Despite this, few have received consistent sequels and fewer have had their mechanics incorporated back into the main series.
I will say, I haven’t played a newer Pokémon game. I *almost* tried shield. But seeing my wife play it-who did enjoy it-was agonizing. Even into the end game, it seemed like every interaction led into five-minute not-cutscene cutscenes or tutorials. Like, the old man at the beginning of the game boy games were annoying but it was one and done. Shield could not just let you start playing until every mechanic and story beat was set up-I’m gonna stop now, I’m rambling.
League isn’t just a toxic community problem (major issue for real) but champion balance has large amount of the cast unplayable, for seasons!
That's a DISTANCE second to the community chat.
yes, League of Legends and several other games have the same crazy problem:
the makers INSIST on adding NEW characters nearly every MONTH, which completely changes the character balance EVERY time a new one is released!
DOTA 2 and Paladins do the same thing.
I had an issue with this long ago but for the opposite reason. I remember playing eve when people considered her worthless, then you had a few streamers find she was strong. Broken strong. And I had known it for a long time. All characters were viable at most levels of the game. I was gold/diamond elo. But man you chose anything outside the Meta even at low elos, and the toxic would come.
League was good in seasons 1-3, after that only good change they did was making ARAM it's own mode. I tried coming back couple years ago but the new map didn't mesh with me.
@@brandond.7768 Even just Random games if you picked off meta people would go nuts, and just outright quit.
Friend of mine use to play Naught Support with me as various AD carries and it worked REALLY well but FFS would we just be assaulted by people saying some of the most Gawd awful things.
2 months later, there's Naught in a LEague worlds game as support.
As far as GTA online, I stopped playing on public servers not because of hostile players, but because of players literally hacking the game world. You would be driving around, and suddenly someone on foot is somehow glitching behind your vehicle, firing an automatic rocket launcher at you. Kill reports would announce that another player was killed by you, yet you were no where near by. Random game assets would be inserted into the world. Players would start fights with everyone else on the server, and would then be invincible to even tank fire.
Yeah, it's annoying trying to do a mission where you smuggle drugs and other players could destroy or steal them. But it's not as bad as knowing that some of the other players can rewrite the rules on the fly, and you have no recourse. To my knowledge, Rockstar has never fixed this; in fact, I think it's why they made business/supply missions that take place in the regular game world can be done in private sessions. They apparently don't know how to fix the problem, or don't care.
Dragon's Dogma certainly isn't for everyone, though for a certain type of player, it's gold. No harm at all in admitting if it's not your kind of game.
But Mass Effect 3 should be on every player's must-play list. The trilogy in its entirety is a gaming experience the likes of which we might never see again.
I know y'all are smoking something there, but really, don't do it at work.
Just found out there was a Runescape 3. So I guess there was also a 2? Honestly I haven't played in over a decade and didn't know it was still going.
Runescape Classic, now dead. Runescape 2, after it was turned into RS3 it was brought back by an overwhelming desire voiced by the fans. James put out a poll to find out how many people wanted RS2 back and got nearly 500,000 votes.
Old School Runescape is updated almost entirely through players votes. If there's not at least 75% wanting something the devs offer, it doesn't get added to the game. I don't play anymore but I still think this is the greatest thing in gaming and love OSRS.
Seriously, we have to stop comparing Pokémon to Palworld. Palworld is an early access game in which you can see everything it has to offer in 2 hours.
Pokémon has a lot of flaws and are years behind in terms of performance, but is still more enjoyable.
LMAO
Being Early Access, I wouldn't even call it a 'game' until that developer decides to officially release it; along with the other projects it also has in EA. They aren't known for actually finishing games; only being copycats. :/
I play Destiny 2. It used to be fun, now it’s more just sticking around until the end. The tutorials for new players were made worse and content that has been paid for was made free and then removed. I don’t recommend it to anyone.
Destiny is worth playing if you have a great team of people to join already, buy dlcs on sale and avoid the cosmetic microtransactions. You can enjoy TONS of it with those alone...
But yeah, its got lots of problems. If you enjoy the lore from a distance then you're a huge winner 😅
you can tell this video was made a while ago because you said Dragon dogma 2 is not out yet when it been out for almost 2 months now also Pal world lost a huge chunk of it's player base and is almost dead
I tried playing Dragon's Dogma, but once you reach the city and start getting side quests, it is just a slog. I stopped having fun. Is the second any better?
I enjoyed it for the first 15-20 hrs. Then absolute slog
Lmao I did the exact same with the second one it's just the gameplay is so much fun but the travel and lack of lore kills me.
The Dragon's Dogma franchise isn't for everyone.
For a certain type of player, though, it's gold.
Certainly no harm in admitting it's not for you.
@garyballard179 I beat one and got 2 and played it for a while combat is top best in class hands down but idk man lore is a big sticking point for me and it just doesn't do it for me
Story is there (not strongly), lore is not. I'm a story fiend, but the combat is just that much fun. Played and loved both games.
I have to say, both Dragon's Dogma and Mass Effect 3 are fully worth playing today. Dragon's Dogma's fast travel and single-save system are fundamental to it's gameplay, and the quest system is meant to be resolved utilising the environment and things people say, rather than obvious UI 'quest markers' - it's not obtuse, it's just in the world rather than in the menus. And people need to play ME3 if only to know the terror of seeing a Banshee on the field....
Couldn't of explained Destiny 2 any better Jules.
Once one of my favorite games ever ( 41, been gaming since the NES/Genesis days ) and trying to come back to it after almost a 2 year break was jarring and absolutely heartbreaking. It's actually impressive the sheer amount of incompetence and ignorance Bungie has accomplished with this one.
Really sucks as my son is now old enough to play and I've been waiting and wanting so much to experience it with him, the campaign really was awesome at one point. Now most of the best parts of the story are outright gone, the experience is gone, it all makes zero sense for a new player and is about as soul less as an experience as you can have in gaming. Compared to Destiny 2 in 2020/21 of course. Just got him the Master Chief Collection instead ( $10 sale on Steam ). While me and my friends all loved and rearranged entire houses, apartments and lives just to play it together, I ended up liking Destiny 2 more, for the story/campaign and lore....until logging in a few months ago, seeing what state it is now became one of my worst experiences in gaming, ever.
Only thing that can top it is Vic Ireland and Working Designs promising Lunar 3, even stating it was in development more than once, hell it was mentioned in Lunar 2 Eternal Blue Sega CD manual....for it all to be a lie and 25 years later we STILL don't have a part 3 to the greatest JRPG Series of all time. I'm aware Game Arts made Lunar but Vic made the promises. If you're still reading this and love JRPGs, do yourself a favor, get a Sega CD emulator and play Lunar 1 & 2 back to back. Not the kiddie, watered down, cringy PS Complete versions either, just the OG's.
Come back and comment if you are a Lunar fan or took my advice, played and now love it too.
Screw you Jules. The mainline Pokémon franchise is great, but Scarlet and Violet have been redeemed with great DLC. Don’t make me regret my love of the Pokémon franchise.
I quit playing League of Legends after 6 years of non stop playing and it was probably the best decision I made in my life. Found a lot more joy and relaxation in single player games and I think a lot of toxic competitive players would benefit from this as well.
Disagree with Dragon's Dogma to a degree. As long as you're playing Dark Arisen then there's no reason not to play it. It's perfect at what it does.
Dragon's Dogma......wtf are you on lol. It's still worth laying even with Dragon's Dogma 2 being out. It still has it's own flavor. Also Mass Effect 3.....just dumb....gotta downvote this one sadly lol.
totally agree specially for destiny 2 and rs3 XXD
I started playing Destiny 2 in 2018, and it used to be pretty good, but they drove me away with the Solar 3.0 'update' completely removed the subclass I played, which had been great for the story's PvE.
Dragons Dogma is one of the best and most innovative games of its time and absolutely deserves new fans
I need to send this video back in time to my younger self
ME3 is worth a playthrough. Its the only game to have crushed me so hard with the choices i had to make that i stopped playing for 6 months. They got me attached to those characters and literally broke me when i couldnt save them all. That is good writing
Pokemon has something that majority of games don't get close to. That's nearly infinite replay ability. No two play throughs will be the same you have so much variety of choice and with gen 9 you can even tackle the challenges in whatever order you'd like.
Gamefreak has built enough of something I'd like to call brand equity with pokemon. We know what we're getting with pokemon. If they decide to shake up the formula majorly or shift the tone scale or scope of the projects then the risk isn't worth the reward. As you said they still guarantee to have 2 of the top 10 best selling games any year they release. From a business standpoint there is no upside at all. You can't please everyone after all
Glad to see someone mention the issues with FFXV. It's the 2nd game in my life that I have booted up, started playing, and then sat there open mouthed wondering "is this a joke game?"
And I speak as the owner and player of every Final Fantasy game up to that point. 8 years into a FFXIV sub after paying for FFXI for 11 years.
I'm done with buying Final Fantasy games from here on out. I've not played FFXVI but it actually looks worse than FFXV from videos I have seen of it.
Jewels you silly man you have forgotten that final fantasy 12 was actually The prototype for even 15 because they both had a similar ATB set set up
I wish I could just disable the "consumed by darkness" mechanic in destiny 2... Anymore whenever I revisit the game I bail at the boss fight that has the death sends you back to a checkpoint instead of just respawning like you normally do.
I think I counted 4 games on this list that are actually great. And 3 of them, you should absolutely play.
I think everyone knows about the ending of the Mass Effect Trilogy now. If you are going in with the knowledge that the ending is dissatisfying; and again at this point it may as well have a giant sticker on the front stating as much, everyone should play the 3rd game for the story anyway. It’s brilliant and quite beautiful. I am quite sad about how it ended but it is so worth playing. Skipping it entirely due to just the ending is a mistake.
Anyone know the song that's playing in the background?
I was wondering same, let me know if you find out! lol
I buy cheap games so ill likely play many games like the ones on this list. Im starting Dragons Dogma one day. Btw maybe the witcher 1 and 2 could count for this list, and im not sure anybody should play The Elders Scrolls 4 Oblivion with its dungeons with one exit only, having to backtrack so much that you have no idea how you escaped such maze.
I love Gameranx but come on! Dragon's Dogma? Mass Effect 3? Seriously??
Gameranx?
Wot mate?! This is 'WhatCulture Gaming' not 'Gameranx', they're on the other side of the pond LOL
But other than that, yeah I agree with your take.
Oops,i messed it up. Anyway,i love both channels but you get my point. 😁
@@renamoda5450 Oh that's awesome! I wasn't sure if you were trolling or genuinely slipped up.
I too love both channels and routinely watch their list videos back to back, now I wonder if I've ever slipped in a comment 🤣
And yes I totally get your point. WCG has had some L takes lately and Jules is only part-time here now, so I don't think he wrote this list.
@@petersonp84 I only just discovered that Jules is in another channel too. Oh well,more videos for me to watch!
A lot of these are online multiplayer games which require you to pay extra
This is exactly what I like to see- making my backlog just a little bit shorter. Thanks as always Jules!
You can always mute the other players in League to ignore the toxic players
"We can't wait to see what Dragon's Dogma 2 delivers later this year"
Had this video on the backburner eh Jules?
For the foreseeable future, I will only play older Pokémon games, no newer than Gen 6.
Yes, the game didn't have the payoff(s) it needed, but the flawed end results for ME3 don't outshine the many MORE reasons to go back to it or introduce other players to it. I'm only annoyed that they couldn't carry over that absolutely stellar PvE multiplayer in the update.
7:27. How the hell was Mass effect 2 "the perfect place to leave things"? The Reaper threat was yet to be resolved by that point.
I did NOT expect RuneScape 3 😂 And I’ve been playing it a lot lately, too. 😅
Personally, I feel a bigger blemish on FFXV is having the 'run' and 'attack' buttons the same, so you're partway through running where you want to go, and are suddenly stuck in battle with something you couldn't see ahead of time.
Runescape 3 suffers a similar problem for players that have been away for a long period.
I was away from the game for a few years, and returned, only to be taken aback by how things had changed.
The only reason I can’t agree with the Mass Effect 3 take is because the game is absolutely amazing. Mass Effect2 was an incredibly high bar, and the third one honestly blew it out of the water. You honestly can’t give up an experience like that just because the final 10 minutes are a dumpster fire
Destiny 2 having "neglected PVP" is a claim I heard way back when I was playing, and it was a silly thought even then. Neglected, when they force PVE players to play Crucible for PVE gear that's locked behind PVP all the time? Come on.
You know another popular game with a troubling player base people shouldn't play. Warhammer 40k!
*laughs in Adeptus sororitus*
But not playing is heresy so
11:10 I loved FF15!! Preferred it to FF7 remake
You should absolutely play Dragon's Dogma, still a fantastic experience
Bs there's so much to do in gta online you can play for hours without actually being in the open world (for long) where the scum of the earth dwell.
Aside from that I also noticed the smaller the lobby the smaller the chance you run into them, trouble tends to start around 10-15 players
Hah! Jokes on you, gatekeeper: I played ME3 with the new ending and loved it, as much as the rest of the Trilogy.
Never put money into a live service game that doesn't have a single player mode. One day those servers will be taken down and it's always sooner than you expect.
This is an oldish recording... rebirth and dragons dogma 2 has come out
Two words: Eve Online.
League would be more playable if they stipped neglecting coop custom games against bots
While watching this, I kept having hallucinations of looking at the desserts display in a high-end restaurant while being dead broke.
I liked your feedback on Destiny 2. I stopped playing a season ago, but I can't lie, it was a great game when I was playing. Aside from the blatant issues in Crucible its a great game
Too late to tell me about Destiny 2! I did play that 😂🕹
I'm thousands of hours deep lmao
I’m playing it now
I have broken my Destiny 2 addiction after 3500+ hours but to be honest The final Shape is the last thing I'm buying Destiny related to conclude the 10 years of my life i gave that game and after that I'll be deleting Destiny 2 forever.
@@muzamilnabinadroo mood
I love League of Legends, but with my social anxiety makes it hard to dare playing it most of the time.
World of warcraft falls into the "been around so long that the story became so convoluted it's unplayable."
Hard disagree on Mass Effect 3.If you've put in the time and effort to get through the first two games, you owe it to yourself to finish the trilogy. I never had a problem with the way it ended, as lackluster as it was, but there was DLC that served to give a better final send off for the series and it is included on the Legendary Edition. Plus some of the character interactions and relationships in ME3 are among the best in the business.
I did love the multiplayer in Mass Effect 2, I played the hell out of that. Too bad they never finished the story, I ended up having to headcanon an ending...
This video must have been in the vault for a WHILE given the entry on DD2 and FF7R saying they arent out yet.
I kinda gotta disagree with the Dogma entry though. I didnt play it until the 1st time last year and I absolutely loved it, and it didn't feel archaic at all to me personally.
A great idea for a video, your reason for not playing gta online is so true. You will just get murdered a lot and rage quit !
And that was it. The episode was over.
This video was released 4 days ago? Sounds like it was recorded a few months ago before Dragons Dogma 2 and FF7 Rebirth came out.
The pkmn entry stings a bit because Ive been trying to hang on with the series but man...ive been getting fatigued for a while. I love the creature collecting the most and PLA felt like it revitalized my love for the game. Then SV happened and killed it. I really don't buy Nintendo consoles for many games but pkmn is one of them. I feel like Im finally ready to hang up the series and just not get any more Nintendo systems.
Disagree about mass effect 3, the game is still extremely worth playing, can't even count how many times I've been through it at this point
6:23 How long ago was this filmed? Jules referring to Dragon's Dogma 2 as "later this year" suggests to me that this was filmed 3 or 4 months ago
Having ME3 here is a bad take, it's an incredible game with a meh ending. Every part of it before the last 5 minutes is exceptional.
You're tripping. Destiny 2 is a great have regardless of the issues. I came to the game 2 years ago and absolutely love it. Every single game has problems and this one still has a killer story, amazing gun play, and competitors who I wish I could match in skill during trials.
How long ago was this made. Dragon's Dogma 2 was out for maybe a month now.
Obviously months ago
lost ark being on this list is sad but not surprising
Phantom Pain is a good game. It might not be the best MGS but it's good
Wtf are you on about Mass Effect 3? It’s a masterpiece that is well worth the ride - not matter the ending- and anyone who hasn’t played it is missing out.
The same goes for MGSV. It’s a gameplay masterclass! Not playing means you are missing out on the best stealth action game ever!
Wtf is this list?
Some hard pills to swallow on this list but I think all of them (that I'm familiar with) belong here. As a big time MGS fan I'm glad to see MGSV on the list. It's a well-crafted game and most people I know who had very high opinions of it had never played other MGS games. I always say it's a really good game, but a pretty terrible MGS game, and that's why non-fans enjoy it more.
Top 10 best fishing systems in games of all time
I find competitive games a huge turn off. Wish devs/pubs would include a casually balanced mode that dials back things like timing windows, game speed, and whatever other parameters that give these games insane and (unappealing to me) skill ceilings. This would provide a great entry point for new players who want to get good and separate those that just are there to have fun and don’t give too much of af about winning. I don’t want to game using only my lizard brain impulsivity any longer, so I’m not buying most of these games.
Mass effect 3 is a fantastic game. The second best in the series after the first one. 2 is a bit overrated to me but still great
You talked about lost ark and never mentioned money. You guys made it sound like the “rng” wasn’t specifically made the way it is to force you to spend money (10s of thousands).
Mass Effect 3 shoudlnt be on this list. its not perfect but anyone that enjoyed the first two games should absolutely play 3.
Some friends tried to get me to play league of legends as I was installing it I had a low key panic attack remembering how it was and by the time it was installed I just couldn't do it. I can handle hard gamesI like difficulty I like smashing my head against the wall till I get better but the group of screaming harpies dragging me down as I do it just sucks. Love the game will never play again.
Another great video.
Pokemon has tried different gimmicks with every generation and most of them failed.
I've started playing destiny 2 in 2024 and having great fun. Who really cares about the story ..
Do one on great quiz show games like Whacked, south park chefs live shack im sure theres others
for mmo's ... well im literally just there for the RPG story -- if it has a decent one that can hold my attention -- i dont care about raiding or the 'endgame grind' or min/maxing whatever spec i wanna play ... so i dont ever have to deal with players being dicks about me needing to 'git gud' ...and in terms of games like GTA Online -- well thats why i host my own private 'local to my pc' server when i play dont hafta deal with asshat toxic players if the world is only generating NPCs
I thought this list would be full of cringe, but I actually agree with everything. Mostly at least, you can play any Pokemon game up to Black, White 2, after that the quality of the games just starts rolling down a hill.