When I visited downtown boston in real life I noticed some stuttering and script lag. Its nice of bethesda to take such good attention to detail in fallout 4.
The Boston FPS Fix & Previs mods conflict they are made by the same modder, Boston works with upscaler, Previs does not & both work with Nvidia Reflex but Reflext doesnt work with Upscaler.Reflect & Upscaler give around the same boost of FPS but Reflex looks better.
I find it funny how a game from 2015 is making my GTX 1660 cry while in downtown Boston and can't get more than 30 fps out of combat, and like 20 while in combat
my rx 6750 xt struggles to get 165 stable fps (my monitor refresh rate) at 1440p ultra, when on other games at 1440p max i get 80 fps, and if i turn down to high i get 120+ fps in a lot of modern games, even in cyberpunk 2077 i get 75 fps at 1440p ultra. But fallout 4 a 10 year old game with mods struggles to run at a stable fps, i get dips down to 40 fps. pathetic
Best video for fine-tune the FO4 !!! ... also I dont feel any improvement when using PRP (previs repair ..) .. but great tip the Shadow boost and the HFPSP ... thank you!! I was struggling with my mods, until I found u video . .now I have the game again in good shape
For those watching the video, consider PRP Lite or PRP Full instead of Boston FPS Fix PRP Edition as the patch was originally meant as an update for the original mod and I've abandoned it at this point, and you might have better results with either version of the PRP mod. PRP only helps in CPU bottleneck situations (typically with draw calls). Also, for the next gen update, there's a known issue with NPC (in game actors, the people you talk to and kill) record changes causing stuttering due to a coding error that BGS has to patch. It's not the unofficial patch doing it intentionally.
Sweet lord that TAA suggestion is NOT recommended if you are playing on 1080p or below. If you are using any grass/tree mods, it creates a lot of flickering and aliasing since there are no previous frames to smooth out the edges. FXAA is not great either since it's just a post processing blur effect for approximate edges and makes the overall image worse. You WANT to use TAA in FO4, whether you are on 1080p, 1440p or 4K since majority of Grass/Tree Mods require such Anti-Aliasing to look good. If you are bothered with TAA's blurriness, I'd suggest getting Reshade and use CAS. Texture Quality is only taxing if you don't have enough VRAM and FO4 as a whole already looks bad with High Textures. FO4 can run Ultra textures (without mods) on a 3GB VRAM card which nowadays have 6GB (1660ti's) or 8GB (RTX 3050 to 3070 for example) and they can easily run it. Even a dinky GTX 750ti can run Textures on Ultra. Only lower it if you know you're starved for VRAM/RAM, otherwise use Ultra Textures. FO4 as a whole without mods/ENB is not GPU intensive but more akin to CPU intensive. It requires a beefy single core performance as well as multi core performance. If you really want to boost your FPS and you already have a decent enough GPU, you want to upgrade your CPU for huge gains especially in Boston. (5800X3D for example is a HUGE gain over 5700x due to the L3 Cache) The only reason Boston fucking sucks at running on nearly any hardware is due to the amount of draw calls it needs, even if you can't see them they are more likely to render in the background. PRP/Boston Fix fixes this.. mostly anyways. If you want to improve CPU performance, I'd recommending reducing View Distance settings (Try Digital Foundry's setting) or reducing uGridstoLoad, it's a dangerous thing to change but I've been using 3 and Exterior Cell Buffer to 16 and I haven't gotten any issues with it (Finished Base Game + DLCs with UGrids to 3). It will however create a lot of pop ins so be aware of that.
You are absolutely correct. I am playing on my gtx 1650 ti 4gb which is a low tier card and can play on ultra settings. I only turned down shadows and god rays for fps gain. What method would you recommend to get good fps near Boston? Prp or any other mods?
8:37 PRP does exactly the same thing as the Boston FPS Fix, but for every cell in the game, not just Boston. But there is one thing. If you use Scrap Everything or other similar mods that break the links between objects, then PRP will either not work at all, or even cause issues.
@@messymessr np. Here are a few rule of thumb if you're thinking of installing a mod: 1. If the mod adds or changes a location > check if it breaks precombines > if yes > check for PRP Patch 2. If it adds new NPCs > check if there is facegen > if no > look for facegen patches
Running the game on a 4070 Ti, It's the Boston city area where the fps is horrible and all over the place for me. The only thing from here that has actually helped was Shadow Boost for fps and High FPS fix for lip syncing issues and the jump height bug. The other mod's I tried listed here either did nothing or made the performance of the game worse with the added bloat.
9:20 Baka ScrapHeap does not allocate memory for the game, but for scripts. By default, the FO4 has 70 mb for scripts, and if scripts take up more space, the game will start loading and unloading them to free up RAM. But if you have less than 70 mb installed (in the Scripts folder), you won't even notice the difference.
I did everything yet my fps are still caped at 60 even goes down to 48 when I launch the game, I have an rtx 3060 and I remember not so long ago I was playing the game with like 50+ mods and it was running smoothly at like 140+ fps I don't understand, and when I launch the game for the first time to change graphic settings I have a message that the game doesn't recognize my graphic card and will set the game to low and when I set the game to run using the gpu manually nothing changes still at 60, checked the refresh rate of the monitor everything is fine tried everything, have the latest updates for the gpu drivers, I start getting desperate Edit: am not using the next gen version
i have Intel i5-3470 3.2ghz pair with GT 730 4gb and 16gb RAM, normaly without performance Mods FAllout4 will run only 25-35fps, but with performace mods ( some use your suggestion ) my fallout4 run very smooth and have 59 - 145fps but sometimes drop to 35fps in some area. not big deal remembering i run fallout4 on old device
Hey, is anyone have a tip for me? I’m only crashing when I am using the vertibird in the Vertibird mod. Only when it flys around too many buildings. I’ve adjusted my settings all the way to the lowest and it still happens. 8 GB of Ram on 500 Gb hard drive
I'm getting stable 60 fps without Shadow Boost, but when i used it, the game randomly stutters or freezes for seconds and also is there a way to log scripts? I'm still getting random stutter but not so severe like it was before.
@@TerryDuke It doesn’t. The prerequisite mods needed for Buffout have not been updated. The same mod author responsible for both xSE PluginPreloader (needed, I believe) and PrivateProfileRedirector (not needed for this mod, but recommended by The Midnight Ride in general) has left comments on both mods saying that they need to be updated and there is no ETA. You cannot use this mod if you don’t want to downgrade your game. Which a lot of us don’t. FO4 modding just sucks right now. Thanks Bethesda 👍
@@Alexandercailyn-yo2xk It works, but not the way you think. The vanilla tree has about 900-1000 triangles, the stone under the tree has 6 (not six hundred, just six). What would be the performance impact if you removed the stone under the tree?
How do I change graphical settings if I can’t access the main game? I haven’t updated my game to the Next-Gen one yet so I can’t access the settings. Is there a way to change them and affect them for F4SE?
You may want to consider doing the update, most of the big mods updated as well and it works. Without it, you'd have to tweak the ini files, similar to how I show for the shadows. I dont know the specifics though
@@namorfreeman8999 Like in the video, it's likely one of the ini files in documents/mygames/fallout4, but I don,t know which file, or what line does what. You'd have to google it.
@@TerryDuke Had a problem with shadow boost not working properly and wanted some questions. Do I have to adjust the settings to see how well it works and optimized for my stable FPS? I currently set my FPS to be uncapped and the iPresentInterval to 1. Is it due to those settings that shadow boost is having problems, since I haven’t noticed any improvements.
i already did actually, and it wont work, most of them were indian speaking or indo speaking, i really dont know, but whenever i open the mod i wanna play, it says "rgl error" on the bottom, pls help me.
@@TerryDuke Thank you, now it works but I have one big problem. It doesnt alow me to save. It says error or something. You think I just gotta play like an hour and then it will let me save or something?
This is exactly why I hate modern gaming. I shouldn't have to mod my game to make it playable. I don't have the best hardware but it's not bad 5800g and a 3060. This game looks like a fucking slide show even set to low. This game is almost 9 years old. Think I'll just refund it instead.
Maybe if you decrease the Setting before starting the game, which makes the guns dirty in the settings before starting the game. You might get better frames
When I visited downtown boston in real life I noticed some stuttering and script lag. Its nice of bethesda to take such good attention to detail in fallout 4.
The Boston FPS Fix & Previs mods conflict they are made by the same modder, Boston works with upscaler, Previs does not & both work with Nvidia Reflex but Reflext doesnt work with Upscaler.Reflect & Upscaler give around the same boost of FPS but Reflex looks better.
I need your help. If i install PRP Full. Does that include fix for Boston in it?
I find it funny how a game from 2015 is making my GTX 1660 cry while in downtown Boston and can't get more than 30 fps out of combat, and like 20 while in combat
my rx 6750 xt struggles to get 165 stable fps (my monitor refresh rate) at 1440p ultra, when on other games at 1440p max i get 80 fps, and if i turn down to high i get 120+ fps in a lot of modern games, even in cyberpunk 2077 i get 75 fps at 1440p ultra. But fallout 4 a 10 year old game with mods struggles to run at a stable fps, i get dips down to 40 fps. pathetic
This is the best compilation/explanation on how to boost your Fallout 4 performance I've seen yet. Thank you for making this so easy!
Best video for fine-tune the FO4 !!! ... also I dont feel any improvement when using PRP (previs repair ..) .. but great tip the Shadow boost and the HFPSP ... thank you!! I was struggling with my mods, until I found u video . .now I have the game again in good shape
For those watching the video, consider PRP Lite or PRP Full instead of Boston FPS Fix PRP Edition as the patch was originally meant as an update for the original mod and I've abandoned it at this point, and you might have better results with either version of the PRP mod. PRP only helps in CPU bottleneck situations (typically with draw calls).
Also, for the next gen update, there's a known issue with NPC (in game actors, the people you talk to and kill) record changes causing stuttering due to a coding error that BGS has to patch. It's not the unofficial patch doing it intentionally.
Sweet lord that TAA suggestion is NOT recommended if you are playing on 1080p or below. If you are using any grass/tree mods, it creates a lot of flickering and aliasing since there are no previous frames to smooth out the edges. FXAA is not great either since it's just a post processing blur effect for approximate edges and makes the overall image worse. You WANT to use TAA in FO4, whether you are on 1080p, 1440p or 4K since majority of Grass/Tree Mods require such Anti-Aliasing to look good.
If you are bothered with TAA's blurriness, I'd suggest getting Reshade and use CAS.
Texture Quality is only taxing if you don't have enough VRAM and FO4 as a whole already looks bad with High Textures. FO4 can run Ultra textures (without mods) on a 3GB VRAM card which nowadays have 6GB (1660ti's) or 8GB (RTX 3050 to 3070 for example) and they can easily run it. Even a dinky GTX 750ti can run Textures on Ultra. Only lower it if you know you're starved for VRAM/RAM, otherwise use Ultra Textures.
FO4 as a whole without mods/ENB is not GPU intensive but more akin to CPU intensive. It requires a beefy single core performance as well as multi core performance. If you really want to boost your FPS and you already have a decent enough GPU, you want to upgrade your CPU for huge gains especially in Boston. (5800X3D for example is a HUGE gain over 5700x due to the L3 Cache)
The only reason Boston fucking sucks at running on nearly any hardware is due to the amount of draw calls it needs, even if you can't see them they are more likely to render in the background. PRP/Boston Fix fixes this.. mostly anyways.
If you want to improve CPU performance, I'd recommending reducing View Distance settings (Try Digital Foundry's setting) or reducing uGridstoLoad, it's a dangerous thing to change but I've been using 3 and Exterior Cell Buffer to 16 and I haven't gotten any issues with it (Finished Base Game + DLCs with UGrids to 3). It will however create a lot of pop ins so be aware of that.
You are absolutely correct. I am playing on my gtx 1650 ti 4gb which is a low tier card and can play on ultra settings. I only turned down shadows and god rays for fps gain. What method would you recommend to get good fps near Boston? Prp or any other mods?
♥ thank you been having a hard time finding those ini files
8:37 PRP does exactly the same thing as the Boston FPS Fix, but for every cell in the game, not just Boston. But there is one thing. If you use Scrap Everything or other similar mods that break the links between objects, then PRP will either not work at all, or even cause issues.
Scrap Everything (along with AKWCR and Armorsmith Extended) are some of the worst mods you can get if you want a stable game.
@@aeterna789 Thanks for the advice! Getting rid of STC made a huge difference for me.
@@messymessr np. Here are a few rule of thumb if you're thinking of installing a mod:
1. If the mod adds or changes a location > check if it breaks precombines > if yes > check for PRP Patch
2. If it adds new NPCs > check if there is facegen > if no > look for facegen patches
Can u install these kinda mods mid play through or do I gotta start a new play through? I’m mid way through a sim settlements/base game run.
Running the game on a 4070 Ti, It's the Boston city area where the fps is horrible and all over the place for me. The only thing from here that has actually helped was Shadow Boost for fps and High FPS fix for lip syncing issues and the jump height bug. The other mod's I tried listed here either did nothing or made the performance of the game worse with the added bloat.
9:20 Baka ScrapHeap does not allocate memory for the game, but for scripts. By default, the FO4 has 70 mb for scripts, and if scripts take up more space, the game will start loading and unloading them to free up RAM. But if you have less than 70 mb installed (in the Scripts folder), you won't even notice the difference.
I used Nytra's optimized landscape and building texture mods, which really made the game playable but I'm not sure I think they may be broken now.
To fix your gpu utilization you can Nvidia DSR to upscale your resolution
Heads up Unofficial Fallout Patch is causing stuttering
It just got an update but will test without to see 🤔
I did everything yet my fps are still caped at 60 even goes down to 48 when I launch the game, I have an rtx 3060 and I remember not so long ago I was playing the game with like 50+ mods and it was running smoothly at like 140+ fps I don't understand, and when I launch the game for the first time to change graphic settings I have a message that the game doesn't recognize my graphic card and will set the game to low and when I set the game to run using the gpu manually nothing changes still at 60, checked the refresh rate of the monitor everything is fine tried everything, have the latest updates for the gpu drivers, I start getting desperate
Edit: am not using the next gen version
nice video bro
i have Intel i5-3470 3.2ghz pair with GT 730 4gb and 16gb RAM, normaly without performance Mods FAllout4 will run only 25-35fps, but with performace mods ( some use your suggestion ) my fallout4 run very smooth and have 59 - 145fps but sometimes drop to 35fps in some area. not big deal remembering i run fallout4 on old device
Use Bethini for changing settings
Your videos confirmed my worst nightmare 🥺
Which are?
@@TerryDuke prob that his rig is weak :[
Hey, is anyone have a tip for me? I’m only crashing when I am using the vertibird in the Vertibird mod. Only when it flys around too many buildings. I’ve adjusted my settings all the way to the lowest and it still happens. 8 GB of Ram on 500 Gb hard drive
I'm getting stable 60 fps without Shadow Boost, but when i used it, the game randomly stutters or freezes for seconds and also is there a way to log scripts? I'm still getting random stutter but not so severe like it was before.
How about the Boston FPS fix? is it available on the next gen update?
use Boston FPS FIX with BOSTON FPS FIX PRP EDITION .....
Does FAR work with flora and landscape mods that have their own LOD?
Thanks for vid. Also does Buffout still work for NG ?
NG?
@@TerryDuke sorry, meant next gen update.
@@AromaticHalo far as i know, yes. Though like everything, expect a few bumps.
@@TerryDuke It doesn’t. The prerequisite mods needed for Buffout have not been updated. The same mod author responsible for both xSE PluginPreloader (needed, I believe) and PrivateProfileRedirector (not needed for this mod, but recommended by The Midnight Ride in general) has left comments on both mods saying that they need to be updated and there is no ETA. You cannot use this mod if you don’t want to downgrade your game. Which a lot of us don’t. FO4 modding just sucks right now. Thanks Bethesda 👍
Hav you found the reason why the game never fully uses your GPU? I think that's the main reason of fps drops in this game
It's most likely just optimization issues, pretty common with other games as well. Still looking for a solution though
@@TerryDuke u could be CPU bottlenecked
L'accent québécois haha
Does the insignificant Object Remove mod still work.?
I still use it on Xbox, but it doesn't seem to do anything anymore
@@Alexandercailyn-yo2xk all though sidenote which Xbox do you use and any recommendations for improve fps mods on Xbox?
@@Alexandercailyn-yo2xk It works, but not the way you think. The vanilla tree has about 900-1000 triangles, the stone under the tree has 6 (not six hundred, just six). What would be the performance impact if you removed the stone under the tree?
How do I change graphical settings if I can’t access the main game? I haven’t updated my game to the Next-Gen one yet so I can’t access the settings. Is there a way to change them and affect them for F4SE?
You may want to consider doing the update, most of the big mods updated as well and it works. Without it, you'd have to tweak the ini files, similar to how I show for the shadows. I dont know the specifics though
@@TerryDuke Ah alright then. Going to have it let it be then.
@@TerryDukeWhere do I find this ini file?
@@namorfreeman8999 Like in the video, it's likely one of the ini files in documents/mygames/fallout4, but I don,t know which file, or what line does what. You'd have to google it.
@@TerryDuke Had a problem with shadow boost not working properly and wanted some questions. Do I have to adjust the settings to see how well it works and optimized for my stable FPS? I currently set my FPS to be uncapped and the iPresentInterval to 1. Is it due to those settings that shadow boost is having problems, since I haven’t noticed any improvements.
hey terry!, its me, i know its a fallout video but how can i fix the rgl errors in warband? i need your help.
Not sure how, I don't have that issue. Try googling it.
i already did actually, and it wont work, most of them were indian speaking or indo speaking, i really dont know, but whenever i open the mod i wanna play, it says "rgl error" on the bottom, pls help me.
Hey man. Could you help me with the 16 century mod in mount and blade warband ? It crashes
Have you tried with the script extender?
@@TerryDuke Nope, could you sent me the link?
@@TerryDuke ?
@@j.m.magadan75 look up my tutorial on warband from last fall
@@TerryDuke Thank you, now it works but I have one big problem. It doesnt alow me to save. It says error or something. You think I just gotta play like an hour and then it will let me save or something?
This is exactly why I hate modern gaming. I shouldn't have to mod my game to make it playable. I don't have the best hardware but it's not bad 5800g and a 3060. This game looks like a fucking slide show even set to low. This game is almost 9 years old. Think I'll just refund it instead.
Same hardware (except r7 5700x) and the game is at a constant 40-55 fps with gpu utilization at less than 40%, cpu is snoozing at less than 30%
Maybe if you decrease the Setting before starting the game, which makes the guns dirty in the settings before starting the game. You might get better frames