Still a Good Buy? Testing Toyota Tundra TRD Pro MPG with Payload & Running FAST in the Dirt
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2023
- We take the 2023 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro and test it in multiple ways to see if it's a good purchase. Can this truck handle payload? How's the real world MPG in the Tundra? Is high-speed off-roading good in this truck?
Watch our full Toyota Tundra review and let us know what you think about this Tundra TRD Pro in the comments below.
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Good review 👍
What did we learn, if you want a good truck you need to remortgage your home🤣
I just purchased a ‘24 TRD Pro and it’s so much fun to drive! I absolutely love it!
Twinsies, love my Terra Pro !
What’s your monthly payment looking like? Interested in getting one but just wondering how much people pay for these trucks
@@tjayvalle444 🤣just say your broke without saying your broke🤣!
Finally Truck King 👑 is back. Great video 👏
Thanks for the very helpful video! Appreciate the channel.
Very good vid Steve. Exactly what I needed to know, MPG hauling my ATV or SxS.
Good morning from Texas. Great review as usual. Thanks.
Assuming the tailgate cable is about 1/4" diameter using mild steel (50 ksi strength) at a 45 degrees angle, it can carry about 1400 lbs with impact factor 2.5.
I would be tempted to actually back the ATV into the bed with how the weight of it is distributed. It at least wouldn't be AS MUCH stress on the tailgate and might help a bit with the squat. Did you guys by any chance try that? Good job on the video btw! I find your videos much more realistic and informative than most channels! Keep it up!
That makes sense. Probably be a lot less squat.
The issue was the bed of the Mule would have hit the rear window.
@@TruckKing ah yes i was wondering that. Makes sense now. 👍
Roll the rear window down 😂
Toyota Tundra should be sponsored by Bass Pro shops, the Tundra grill was inspired from the majestic large mouth Bass.
lol🤣
It is the official vehicle of BP
Very nice I want one. Great video as usual
Most Awesome Review as always!!! 😁
Affordability is quite an issue... if you can find one. You guys are doing exotic truck reviews, they are unicorns, it's almost impossible to touch them.
Still no tow hooks?
I would rather buy an n/a gas 3/4 if i went back to fullsized truck, the only downside is the mpgs of a heavy duty truck. Less limitations like plenty of payload, towing plus you can put a plow on it. Todays half tons have turned into swelled up cars with a bed.
Ford's 7.3 is an incredibly good engine. It gets about the same MPG as the 5.7 Tundra but with a 7.3 liter engine! OHV port injected engine, incredibly simple, incredibly durable. Heavy duty trucks have the best longevity because they are just built for that and that engine will get you very far with minimal repairs
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566collapsed lifters and complete engine failures on the Godzilla. The only suitable gas engine ford produced for a 3/4 ton was the 6.2 and they don't even offer it anymore. Ford is having a lot of trouble right now and heading for a major government bailout
These short beds on "full-size" pickups are just silly and having something like that ATV so far back is very far from ideal. I'm also not a fan of the exterior styling. It's a bit too heavy-handed and over styled. Toyota did a better job with their second draft, the Tacoma, which has a more refined and cohesive design. I expect Toyota to apply some of those design learnings to the Tundra for its mid-cycle refresh.
I disagree think it looks great! To each their own tho. I hope they don’t change it too much
20 mpg is pretty decent gas mileage unloaded, that’s comparable to my ‘22 Frontier with a 3.8V6. and I doubt that Mule would fit in the back of my 5 ft box either.
Yeah it's pretty much run for the course with today's turbo half-tons.
It does split when you have your phone connected.
I wanted a TRDpro but I don't want batteries under my rear seat and for sure don't want no 5.5 bed, 6.5 is minimum. So I bought an AT4 instead and I'm enjoying 8L/100 hwy cruising. I may look at the 6th gen 4runner when it hopefully releases next year.
How is the audio system there?
With the weight on the Kawi being so far back your over the weight limit of the tailgate I can promise you. What makes wire supported tail gates fail is time and the constant flexing as the tailgate is open and closed. I have seen several fail but all were wire supported and at least 3-4 years old. What happens is the heat shrink gets a crack in it from flexing and water gets in and there you go. Like i said never sene one fail that was under 3-4 years old.
It looks like the AYV wheels had to be turned to get it to fit. There were no shots of the front of the bed when loaded. 54KM's is a very short test. Just a little difference in the amount of fuel put in makes a big difference.
TRD pro is one of Toyotas builds through the years that has always been top notch and honestly can run with any truck in harsh and unforgiving conditions anywhere in the world. For those who are concerned about the tailgate or any tailgate this is what I recommend all the time. I bought new a 2008 Tundra 5.7 for my trucking business at that time. The tailgate never failed for 150K abusive miles because as soon as I got it home I removed the tailgate panel and inspected the tailgate wrap. I determined it needed some help. Everywhere the wrap connected or metal meet metal the best I could I used steel epoxy and in tight places JB weld. Especially in the the top corners. It worked and worked well and produced a good service life for the Toyota tailgate.
Love mine
So awesome, love my Terra Pro. Congrats
For the amount of HP and TQ this thing produces. It makes excellent fuel economy. I prefer off road capability over fuel economy.
Oh BTW, it does 0-60 in under 6 seconds.
I don’t know a soul here where I live that pays any attention to payload capacity. Thank you for doing a real world test!
This is why I don't buy used trucks
I have no idea how you got 25 mpg. My father-in-law got a new tundra a couple of weeks ago and his first 200 mile, all highway road trip returned 18mpg.
What speeds and conditions was he traveling in?
@@ALMX5DP probably between 75 and 80 mph through Central Kentucky. So some rolling hills not all flat, no traffic, 70 degrees F outside
@@jonnyboy6359 gotcha, well I don’t know about this one, but my F-150 will get at least 3-4mpg better doing around 65 versus 75+ so maybe that accounts for part of it.
@@jonnyboy6359 Too fast.
@@jonnyboy6359there’s your answer; speed and conditions.
Considering my Tacoma TRD 4X4 off-road only has a payload of 945 lb I'm sure a lot of people are going to overload the payload! My tacoma is the base 📦 and with 1 RCI transmission skid 🍽️ & a backpack with tire plug kit I only have 800lbs of payload available lol
Monster ❤❤❤
You guys truly are Truck Kings. I wonder how this truck would fair on gas at sea level aka Florida.
I'm a 2019 Tundra owner. Idk why they just couldn't have improved the v8 a little. Throw the new 10spd auto on it. I'm sure they could have squeezed an extra 1 or 2mpg's . Don't think I'll be buying 1 next. I'll probably go diesel for my next rig
Emissions and mpg not same
D-4S and new VVTi with the 10-speed would've made it ideal.
Yep. I was a loyal Tundra owner since 2008. Best truck ever. They botched this new truck very badly. Went with a 2021 Chevy 2500 diesel. No regrets at all and the power and mpgs I get are impressive
@@stevieray1828CAFE only counts mpg
25 MPG
I didn't see a weights and measures sticker in this video. That Tundra was 100% over payload. My 2022 Limited Tundra had a payload of 1355. I would be curious to see if it actually was. 1080 in the bed plus 2 200+ lbs dudes.
0:11 - wouldn't it fit loaded the other way around?
no
I work for a truck accessory shop and we do spray in bedliners and I fairy a lot of new vehicles back-and-forth from dealerships. We service 13 different dealerships so I do get to drive plenty of new vehicles. I will say y’all guys really harp on the coil, spring rear suspension, but from my experience driving the newer model ram heavy duty trucks. They are no more smoother on the highway in my 1999 F250 300,000 mile with leaf springs all the way around I still swear my old Ford has a smoother ride smoother than these new Rams! Now turning radius is horrendous but the ride is great 👍
Love the exterior of the TRD, but am not a fan of the interior. Its still too "angular" and worktruck-ish
Im biased towards Ram, and think they have the best interiors in the class.
For the money, F250 with high output PowrrStroke diesel with Tremor package!
Apples to Banana comparison there.
You'll spend more time in the shop than on the road. These new diesels are overtuned trash. I know of a construction company with two powerstrokes and a Duramax. Power Strokes were always sick even at the beginning when they were new so they tried a GMC Duramax that performed well at the beginning but last time I checked in it was having issues too. Something about fuel economy. The one boss said he was getting about seven miles to the gallon loaded or not. I'd stay away from the V8 diesels for sure. I guess I'd have to go with a Cummins if i just absolutely needed a diesel truck but I'd stay away from diesel all together if I could. Nothin but heartbreak and agony tho it seems like everything that's being put out these days is trash.
the elephant in the room is not the height of the bed loaded...its the shortness of the bed and the fact that the kawasaki doesnt fit in a full size truck. you can barely fit a push mower and a bag of groceries into that short bed
The biggest disappointment is MPG in the Toyota Hybrid system. Ford's Powerboost has basically the same HP/TQ but gets considerably better MPG unloaded.
and your biggest disappointment will be Found On the Road Dead (go Ford)
Now it's a better buy than at launch because this will have less problems than a first model year would have.
Still having the same qc issues… just look at trd Jon’s channel… albeit he is Toyotas biggest fanboy
@@Wellh0wrya oh shit what was going on with him? I used to be subscribed but all the talk about the new Toyota trucks got so annoying. I just didn't want to hear any more (maybe faked) excitement for the new stuff which is inferior on many levels. I've heard quality like fit and finish is still quite bad and on Reddit people said hat heir shops have seen quite a few Tundras which major engine failure.
Why did they put those little ATV wheels on the big truck?
15mpg loaded with the mule is better than what i get with my 2012 crewmax unloaded lol.
Big screens belong in your living room , driving you need to concentrate on what is out the windshield ,and mirrors .
Agree 100%. Absolutely hate the direction towards all controls on those big gaudy distracting screens!
@@richarde1355 you have no self-control? ROFL
Extremely easy & expensive to break the rear cab window. I have done it with a smaller ATV. Big $$$$ and tough to explain it to insurance company. My 2 cents is use a trailer, safer all around.
Truck king is a great channel🍁🇨🇦
Where u get those ramps, for loading the atv?
Canadian Tire
The rear air suspension would have done a far better job in this case. I'm glad I bought the AVS system and the truck is excellent
You know what would be even better? Leaf springs. They are superior to coils handling a load but all the sissy truck buyers today can't handle that. Ford still uses leafs on everything but the Raptor. You don't get 14k lbs towing in a half ton with coils. Leafs are also way more reliable than air suspension. Nobody wants to buy the Lexus LS with air suspension because it causes problems and so expensive to fix.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Well for towing these Tundras will go up to 12K lbs with coils in the back, not bad.
@@BPJac have you seen the sag on the rear? In the official Toyota videos even the sag was insane, leafs handle under load way better
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 yeah the sag looks bad, but as the reviewer said it did not affect the ride very much
That tailgate is screaming to be put out of its misery. How did that not break lol?
Well it is nice, but over 5 years late to the party. Only the fan boys will be excited about this one at this point. I'm done with 7 dollars per gallon half tons sucking down the fuel like this. Owned them and drove them getting the same mileage, or better than this, for 10 years now. Would not trade my 2018 Ram 1500 for one of these, same fuel and higher payment. Have a deposit on a Lightning Pro and look forward to trying something different. Unless we head back down to 1 dollar a liter, then all the math changes. Any chance in testing a Pro standard range?
Cool🎉
Should have kept the rear leafs.
Great video TK! 1100 lbs of payload is really disappointing, considering that the new Tacoma promises 1700 lbs in most any trim/configuration. How does that work for a crew cab truck? You could max it out with 4 guys in the truck,,, without anything in the bed at all! That sounds like a bad joke. Have trucks gotten so big that they can't really be half-tons anymore and should be qualified as HDs so they can have any useable payload? I guess the poor fuel economy when loaded is down to the Turbo V6... like EcoBoost engines - thirsty when worked hard, economical when driven gently. Cheers!
This isn’t meant to be an actual truck.
@@pryme2013what’s it meant to be?
I had a F150 with ecoboost and it was very thirsty when towing anything. I generally got 7-8 mpg towing a 24’ travel trailer and 10 when towing a utility trailer.
@ALMX5DP an offroad truck. Anyone that knows anything about trucks knows that the offroad trucks have lower payload because the suspension gets changed to be better offroad.
The taco has some trims with more payload but not all. The trd pro and trailhunter are going to be at or below what this tundra is at.
Engine failure, engine failure after 20k miles is all i see on the Tundra's page. To fix it cost estimation is 30k just think if this happens not underwarranty!!!
Thats why you have the warranty to cover that. Easy. Stop complaining girl. ✌🏻
Great video! I have a 2023 TRD pro and love it. How many miles are on the test truck? No one talks about the break in period and the mpg going up.
Not a single one of my trucks purchased in the last 10 years new had a better mpg after a so called break in period. These cnc machined engines just don’t do that anymore. I had v6, v8, gas and diesel. None of them did that.
@@is6566 Well mine went from 16.5 to 18.5 after 2000 miles. Couple of guys in other videos have reported the same thing.
Interesting. I’m still standing by my experience. It didn’t happen with an F150, previous gen Colorado ZR2, Jeep Wrangler (v6), or a gmc 3500 diesel. I wonder if the contrary experience is a result of something else, like the coincidence with changing weather. For example getting the truck in cold weather during winter and in warmer weather coming spring and summer the mpg improves. Or maybe I am an outlier. Or drive too much to notice. I blow through 2000 miles in 3 weeks and in the beginning in a few days as I usually buy my vehicles out of state and drive them home. For the diesel hd I had to drive it 2,500 miles to get home and it took me 4 days.
This is a thing, 2022 chevy 2500 gas truck at work. First 2k miles it would only get 10 to 10.5 mpg. Now with 10k on it it's been getting 12.5 to 13 mpg
Bro How much cost your insurance with a iforcemax?
for 2 brand newish (22 i-forcemax hybrid Plat/23 -rav4 limited hybrid) truck/suv, 2 ATVs and a sports car, I pay 300 a month
Do you use the same 30 second top off rule that TFL uses ?
Actually we go 31 seconds - ‘cause we try harder
I own the 2023 and I have never gotten above 12mpg... I do mostly city driving to and from work but I should get better than that..
Seriously?
Stephen, Toyota needs to make the TRD Off Road package available with an 8 foot bed. 🤔 Alternatively they could bring back the T100 with an 8 foot bed . 🤩
😂😂😂 the trd pro is an off road build....buy the tundra with an 8 ft bed and do mods if you want one
No matter what I did the mpg cannot get beyond high 14 mpg (trd pro hybrid). Even on highway driving. My 2014 V8 I could get 15 at least. That is the most disappointing drivetrain ever. What a joke.
You must have had an extra special Tundra; 15 at least? That might be 15 at best, going downhill with a tailwind.
bro stop the cap, I get 22-24 mpg on highway w/ my non hybrid.
@@reeter7Dkpg, maybe, not mpg. Unless you have some super secret drivetrain and power plant not available to the rest of the world.
@@richarde1355 no don't drive with a lead foot, keep rpms below 2000. Totally do-able on the highway, I live in a very flat area.
Thanks for sharing, great in depth review as usual. I think tailgate load is 200Lb, not sure if this load is safe out there in the woods with exposure to rough roads.
@M.H…. There is no way on the green earth that they would make a tailgate that qualifies for only 200 pounds when the average American male pickup truck buyer is about 250 pounds. 😃 somewhere I read that usually the tailgates would be ok to up to two thousand pounds. I don’t have a source anymore and I am too lazy to find it again.
437 Hp 583 lbs torque and 25 MPG
junkyota paid for 437/583/25 so that's what paid TH-cam chanel announce
I assume they just work with what they are given by toyota, but it always seems they are testing short bed off-road trucks for "truck work". Something like this would be better suited for at least a 6.5 bed and just the standard suspension (where the front is not leveled to the rear aiding in the squat). Where is an actual review on TH-cam of an 8ft bed tundra. All I see is the crewmax even in the previous generation.
You are right. 8-ft beds are less than 10% of the market - and most of those go to fleets. So, yes Toyota gives us only the popular models to test.
Was never a fan of midsize trucks but the new Tacoma is just awesome! Tundrais nice looking also but the engine scares me
Why would this engine scare you and not the similar type engine in the Tacoma?
Buy a current 4Runner with the 4.0L. You likely don't need the bed. That engine and transmission is insanely reliable. Most reliable vehicle today.
@@richarde1355 lots of aluminum which tends to warp when overheating and composite heads! I've never had a ruck engine like this that's why, I mean Toyota engines seem to run forever ,is this a new or old reliable setup?
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that dash display is crazy. my 2017 colorado ZR2 with my iphone connected allows me to show my Waze navigation, song playing, and calendar, plus another item. and my screen is a perfect size at half the size of this brand new truck.
Um I watch Amazon, Netflix, TH-cam, etc on mine. Glad your happy being the small man, but the large screen is perfect, kids love watching movies on it
@@JIPlatiumyeah, playing movies for kids should really be the main purpose of an automotive infotainment screen...
@@nicholassmith7048 what would you like? In-bedded controls for the car? It didn't work so great for the Colorado with update failures... super awesome the infotainment can cripple a car. Also being a parent, an excellent way to pass long travel times for kids. Sounds like you are over dependent on yours to tell you what you're car is doing or going.
@JP… There is no way you can play movies on that screen while driving 80 MPH on the highway.
@@is6566 do it all the time for kids. If you lack self-control, it's not for you. I don't watch it, but they do.
I like Toyotas, but I still don't care for the looks of the Tundra.
Nope for halfton prices nowadays id rather spend that money on a 3/4 ton diesel
Should've put in the mule in reverse
V8 hybrid with propower on board. Oh wait ford is doing that with Gm to follow next.
Toyota made a mistake with the turbos
Wait theyre making a v8 hybrid?
@@doctorcropse2795
No
@doctor…. Nope. No v8 hybrid. Someone just had a wet dream.
@@is6566 why wouldn’t they v8 hybrid corvette
I love my Tacoma but absolutely hate the Tundra. Its build quality is suspect. Its try to hard to be a competitor to the big three.
What year Tacoma?
@@richarde1355 2020 TRD PRO.
Just seems like a turd even the yota loyals don’t want.
Just you alone overloaded the payload
The payload rating is embarrassing. My 08 Ridgeline will hold more..like 1450lb
Still 70k for this new Tundra is crazy!! My 2023 Titan is getting about the same mpg and i paid way less, i mean way less. I paid 34k out the door. The Titan will outlast that Tundra and most every other car/truck!!
Still no 4k video on this channel, such a shame
just so you know - 4K video files are huge. Adds hours to the editing process.
@TruckKing Probably 90+% of people watching these videos on their phones anyway. Until they start making 4K phone screens for the masses the 4K videos are not needed.
@@TruckKing don't you patronize me, your computer is just slow
@@is6566 who watches youtube videos on their phone? Thats odd... why use such a small screen when you can just watch on your computer?
@jrk…. 😆 Almost nobody (about 12%) watches TH-cam on computer. I was wrong with 90% but the statistics shows that 63% watches on mobile phone. I almost never watches it on anything else. However, you can be proud, you are one of the few people who watches TH-cam on computer. Almost unique! 😍
New Tundra is about the same l/100 as the old 5.7L with a load. Not impressed.
Who drives an average of 45 mph? Of course it's going to get amazing mpg at that speed . Get in the 65-75mph range and report back
To answer your question. I do . Not everybody drives highway and interstate speeds , day in and day out .
I think the TRD PRO isn't as special as it used to be. Now that you can get the same wheels with TRD OFF ROAD, much higher price tag, don't see the value
they have over used the TRD badge. its seems to be on everything now. its over done and old. seems more like a gimmick than something special
I can’t imagine all that electronic garbage or Bullcrap drive train lasting a million miles like so many previous years Tundras ! Tell me how you like it when you hit 500K at least ? If it makes it? 😂
The Tundra is the slickest metro-pickup in the urban forest. Please just provide a basic 4 WD, 8 ft bed, and no turbos. How about a big bore straight 6 or an updated V8? Oh, red tow hooks up front.
No one wants compilation of a hybrids, already a pia as is. I want v8
My gen 2.5 would have done better.
What an embarrassment. 15.5mpg with 1k in the bed? My HD would easily equal that if not edge it out. And with over 3x the payload, it’s an actual truck.
I get 21-22 mpgs. Your HD is probably plagued by all the issues GMC/Chevy have. I'll wave when I pass you along the side of the road broke down. 😂
@@JIPlatium Which issues would those be so when I have my first one I know what to look for? I honestly had more first year growing pains with my tundra when this truck.
@@pryme2013 I've had no issues. You can look up all the issues for yourself, for there is a lot. Notably would be GMC/Chevy starting on fire, publication asking people to park outside, transmission issues and the "Chevy Shakes", both have class action lawsuits for multiple years (I think an 8 year span from previous to new). HDs losing steering and cracked drive shafts. Fuel injector flow rate. Air bag, electrical system, stability control...ect. Yes no car is without risk.
@@JIPlatium You sure don’t know crap about the 2020+ HD trucks haha. Literally none of that is relevant.
@@pryme2013 its not like you told me what year you bought DA rofl
Ty for showing the numbers in gallons for us US folk. I've had to block 3 canadian/british u tubers lately because they only show metric units. It might not seem like much but its basically a big middle finger to millions of you tube watchers.
I'm with you. I've had to block a bunch of American TH-camrs lately for not converting it for me to L/100. Basically a giant middle finger to the rest of the world.
As you should, thats why this is the best truck review channel on youtube!@@wildrides4354
@wild…. Just so you know, TH-cam algorithm monetizes the “rest of the world” on a much lower level then the American views, so American TH-camrs don’t give a $hit about the “rest of the world” and justifiably so. While TH-camrs from “the rest of the world” better pamper us high value American viewers. 😍 Merrica First Baby! 😃
i dont understand why other countries use mm and not inches. i mean who wants to sit and count hundreds of mm when they could just count to 12 inches or say 1 ft.... am i going to spend my time counting 304.8 mm per ft, or just say 12 inches. i prefer to count to 12 instead of 304.8
That's funny with the screen cause my wife's kia can show 3 things at once 🤷♂️
Modern trucks are way to gimmicky. Across all
Half ass PRO!!! 😂
Great video 👍
This Tundra with Turbo + Hybrid + with 10 speed transmission with hardly any major improvements on mpg? Toyota Canada, don’t you think it is time to dump over engineered vehicles. Why not invest on small diesels and not play the climate change hoax. Absolute nonsense and stupidity.
All this high technology will cost owners in repairs once the warranty expires. The best trucks are simple trucks when it comes to engine and transmission. Bring back the older V8 engines and 6 speed transmission….simple and it works.
eh old v8 got 14-15 at best this got 25 pretty decent
complete exaggeration, obviously you never owned one. I am speaking out of experience.
nah have a 21 pro so theres that
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@@kidamere2408I guess you are lacking common sense or you are part of the corruption.
ah yes the argument of the uneducated , when you have lost the argument, spout an insult@@Thankyou_3
Seems like an extremely underwhelming truck. A Trailboss, Tremor, Rebel and much better choices
No tow hooks reliable as a turd
Wow 😮, whole thing sucks
I find the front end of the truck the most ugly front end ever created for truck of the last 30 years. Also, as others have mentioned the quality issues are terrible on this truck for being a Toyota. Very disappointed.
Snake they are awesome and like you I loved my v8 2nd gen but these are better!
The tundra is probably the worst truck you can buy. Ford is 1000x better. We buy Toyotas for reliability and longevity and I’m not to sure in 10 years that vehicle will last without major repairs.
Your opinion is not backed by fact. Ford??? First year Tundra launched Ford had more recalls by about 6-7 more. The first recalls were for the trucks made right at the start of the year. Mid year trucks didn't have those issues. One was for the tonneau cover lol. But go with Ford, that wasn't a new truck, just Ford trash. Even the CEO admitted to reliability issues they had. Nice view ROFL 😂
@@JIPlatium gtfo it is has so many quality issues it’s insane. Wind noise, cheap ass plastic inside and out, bad mpg compared to others, over msrp, engine failure that’s a know issue, seat cracking, low dim interior lights, ugly ass front end, fire recall, no bed step as standard, no bms standard, turn radius is the worst, bed dimensions is smaller than last gen, back seat and overall interior space is a lot smaller than other trucks, analog gauges looks like we’re in the 1990s and that’s just a few things that Toyota mess up on.
the first 8 or so years of tundra, the frames rusted and broke in half, as mine did. same applied to the tacoma and sequoia of that era. im not a ford fan, but i sure wouldnt want another truck to break in half because of rusty frames, as my tundra did @@JIPlatium
Tundra is a disappointment in so many areas, MPG being one of them… retool the v8 and give the consumers what they want… and for the love of god, fix the qc issues
Emissions and mpg aren't the same thing. Don't blame Toyota, blame the government. At least Toyota didn't commit to go all ev by 2035 like Ford, GM, Stelantis Ram, .. They are going to need to get bailed out .... Just watch
They only really needed to give the V8 D-4S injection and newer VVTi. That would bump the power a lot and could have made it more efficient.
I completely agree with you. Why get rid of an amazing reliable v8. I rented a ram 2500 with a 6.4l hemi and drove 1600 in 3 days and I averaged 17.1 mpg. I believe if a Ram 2500 can get that acceptable mileage then Toyota can reach low 20s with the 5.7 iforce.
I hear of horror stories of Ford Ecoboost turbos and I pray the tundra will not have the same problems
@@visof30 many shops say they had Tundras coming in with turbo failures
25 MPG