I was wrong about the Steam Deck - 3 weeks later
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I wasn't sure exactly how the Steam Deck would fit into my life. It turns out I've been using it a lot more than I expected...
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Leave your innuendos below please I'm running out of penis jokes 😞
U can try splitgate that it's a shotter a la valorant and has a native linux version
Deck will be awesome by 2023. Nice thumbnail btw.
So many, "getting your deck to work can be difficult" jokes you could have made.
Hey Wulfden, its your cousin Roman lets go bowling
30XX looks cool!
Great Stuff!
For some reason, my deck reservation got canceled near the time I was supposed to be able to order it. I emailed Valve about it and the response I got was pretty much “here’s your steam deck” and it was at my doorstep a week later. Best customer service I’ve ever received. Still blows my mind that they just sent it.
Did Valve send it or did Valve don't didn't send it? Ah, send it!
Bro SAME
@JEREMY THE WICKED! yes sir
That was me about two weeks ago, really was the best customer experience i have had in years.
Lol that's why I set up a folder specifically for steam emails and put the folder settings to send a notification to my phone for every new entry. I bought my steam deck literally 5 minutes after getting the Email lol
Valves approach to ordering was far better than the nothing we got to make ordering PlayStations and Xboxes better.
Lol
And you can literally just go buy new Switches for msrp
@@RhythmGrizz They've also been out for YEARS...
@@RhythmGrizz switch hardware is like 6 years old at this point. That isn’t really anything to brag about.
Valve has always been rather consumer friendly
@@protocetid my point exactly. People out here flaming valve while they are light-years ahead of what anyone else is doing for their consumers in this shortage
Valve's "wildy frustrating pre-order system" is mostly just frustrating for scalpers, the preorder system is brilliant for the rest of us.
This!
my only issue is I wish it would expand to countries like mine coz I NEED THIS BAD BOY ASAP
Idk man….I pre-ordered a year ago and I’m still waiting. I don’t see a functional difference except I have no ability to get lucky and beat the scalpers (something I have done with other games and systems, it is rare and hard/requires extreme luck, But I have done it)
It’s actually a great preorder system. Get in line, get 1 system.
@@davidnotonstinnett See what you're frustrated about is that it's a preorder system altogether instead of an order system.
As far as the pre-order thing for the Deck. I like the way Valve did it because I know I have a place in line and I don’t have to try to watch for when the are available at Best Buy, Target whatever.
True but their Q1, Q2 and Q3 system is so vague.
@@rickmcintosh3570 that's because they can't calculate exactly when you'll get yours because of factors they don't control. What if they quote you a specific date in June, but then there is an issue with a small batch of the units in June that pushes the orders back? What if there are a handful of faulty units off the factory floor that means when they calculated your unit for June 23rd let's say... You now get pushed further back because of factors NO ONE could have foreseen?
The system is as accurate as it can be. What other distributor is THIS transparent with the preorder process?
@@rickmcintosh3570How? It basicly says which spread of months?
But what about those who didn’t get their reservation in early?
@@iConicDays the fact some people have to wait literally over a year just to get one after pre-ordering is stupid.
With the preorder thing I think a lot of people are just happy enough that they dont have to deal with scalpers/bots and horrible prices they charge if you wanted to get something. Cost of entry was basically nonexistent (5$ that get added to your steam wallet if you cancel, spending 5$ on steam is really not hard for people who are interested in Steam Deck in the first place) and sure it is weird that you have to check your email and so on and and that it takes a lot of time to get it even if you preordered first day. But at least you have a clear window where you will guaranteed get the system and no bot will take it away from you. And that is big in PC community since the shoratages in components and having to deal with that every time new piece of tech drops.
this right here. I forget how detached a lot of people are from the tech/pc world and ordering parts, and the tragedy the market has been for the last 5+ years.
Do I wish I could just got to Target and buy a Steam Deck? Absolutely! But this method works so much better in a world where there's an entire gray industry of people who's full time job is scalping in-demand hardware. (honestly, console people should already know with the difficulty of getting a PS5).
I just got my email on monday. I have a tracking code for my steam deck. I can't say the same for anyone trying to buy a PS5 or a videocard right now.
I mean I personally am pissed because I was waiting to order minutes before pre-orders opened so I was there at drop and then due to crashes they locked my account for too many purchase attempts without telling me the time duration so I waited an hour (it said wait a bit and try again) and then it reset so I had to wait the 2 hours extra (I found out by searching twitter) so I am now behind people in my friend group who I texted to remind by months because the error cost me 3 and a half hours and wasn't clear about the time I needed to wait so I could have been even more screwed
Absolutely! I have done both and I was there minute one for the preorder and actually got one for the earliest release date. Try that with a PS5 drop and the scalper bots get them all within microseconds AND make the ordering process for everyone else impossible or close to impossible as they trash the site with essentially a DDOS.
@@tiannavotto35 That happened to me 🫤 the errors and waiting for that window pushed me out from being able to get it Q1 and still no email but at least I’ll get it I guess but would have been nice to get it since I was there when it dropped.
I've heard of at least some people having technical issues/hurdles with the system and that definitely sucks for them.
In my personal experience though everything was pretty smooth. I reserved it the day reservations opened, got placed into Q2, and just got my pre-order email a few days ago and officially bought it.
Much preferred the longer process imo than having the uncertainty of stock being immediately taken up by scalpers.
I was re-buying games I already owned on Steam for the Switch to play them handheld. Bought the Steam Deck and thrilled to be able to play my Steam game library instead and at better resolution to boot.
Iko
Same! I was like well this will literally pay for itself ;)
@@RKramer105 no you still have to pay for it
That was one of the main reasons why I haven't bought a Switch! That and the lack of cross save with my Steam games
Same here
I'm not sure I understand the disdain towards the Steam Deck pre-order system. Will you get one any time soon if you reserve one now? No but you will at least be registered into a system. Compare that to trying to get a GPU or next-gen console at launch where you'd either be waiting in line hoping the store had enough stock for you (they won't) or hoping to find it online (you won't). Sure the time between me placing my reservation and me placing my order will be around a year but I know my reservation is safe and I don't actively have to do anything right now. My brother already got his since he reserved it as soon as the page went live.
The wait sucks but yeah I do prefer this way
I think anyone complaining aboiut Steam Deck orders haven't tried to get a GPU. That was a journey into hell that lasted the better part of 2 years
Same, I think so far this has been the best to if not eliminate then greatly slow the scalping market. It's hard to wait I completely get it but try to get a PS5 the last year and you'd be pulling your hair out. This: you get into the queue and that's it no hassle of constantly trying and failing to order one with the scalper bots buying them all up in microseconds.
Compare it to trying to preorder anything online these days. It was the only way for sure.
Ya I don't mind it, it sucks that I pre ordered I'm July and still don't have it, but at least I know I'll have it before most of the general public.
you briefly mentioned a super important aspect of the steam deck - and thats steam. steam has been around for decades and will likely be around for at least a few more. the pc platform is open and backwards compatible, so i know that even if the steam deck becomes obselete, i can still have all my games if i decide to go to a gaming laptop, or a steam deck 2 :)
Yeah steam is not going anywhere anytime soon
Even if Steam itself becomes obsolete the Steam Deck won't lose its functionality. It is a PC first and foremost and still retains that behavior even without Steam.
@@ninetailedfox579121 SteamOS will lose that functionality, but you could go Windows or another Linux distr.
@@dustojnikhummer The only thing you would lose is connection to the Steam servers. You would of course lose access to the Steam store and your library, but everything else would still function like normal. You would still be able to play any games you install in gaming mode, even.
I tried to get a RTX 3080 at launch and compared to that, (IMO) I rather have valve’s preorder system.
Yep and the best thing is that, for the most part, Valve is getting the Deck into the hard of people who want to play them rather than those looking to flip them.
Unless you're into VR I'd rather player FPS games on handheld with gyroscope.
The amount of options that the steam deck gives you is my favorite thing about it and might make me into a pc gamer for the first time ever
One big plus is while at base level it's more expensive than a switch steams frequent game sales can save you a ton of money in the long run during the last summer sale I got 12 games for 30 bucks
Two of which were triple A games btw recently also got the entire master chief collection for a 5 dollar bill
@@Boomtox yeh the sales are insane on steam I love it most my games I bought were on sale for cheap
Welcome. PC gaming is where it's at. You never have to worry about backwards compatibility, games are way cheaper, free online play, and endless freedom.
@@Boomtox I mean the steam deck is 7-8 times stronger than a switch
I love that they added "variable refresh rate but not really" where you can pick to have your screen lock at any value through 40-60fps instead of 30 or 60. 40fps doesn't sound like a big difference but it is a 50% improvement on 30fps
Their reservation system is great. So far, I haven’t seen anybody who reserved one and was denied it. You have to be patient watch your email. That’s way better than what it takes to buy a GPU or a PS5 at MSRP, where you’re never guaranteed anything.
I waited in queue at a PlayStation direct for 2.5 hours and they were sold out when it was my turn
Even people who missed their email window were given second chances.
@@CrystallineLore that is a relief, I work nightshift with hardly no internet access for 18 hours. Usually by the time I get home valve doesn't release anything before 10 am which is basically the latest I'll stay awake and then by the time I wake up (3 pm, I'll be getting ready for work for 5 pm, meanwhile driving to work on for almost an hour then into a dead zone (no internet services, and wifi for local connection only)x_x
@@GothicDragonX In case you or anyone isn't aware, Valve drops the emails every Monday and Thursday starting around 10 am PST. You have 72 hours to reply to it, so if you can manage to check once every couple days say around that 3 pm time, there's no chance you're going to miss it.
I had to pay 90€ up front for an MSRP PS5 reservation at a local store. Had to wait a year, but I had my place in line. I was called when it was available and told that I can request a refund for 90€ or pay the difference in the next week.
I had to pay 4€ for Steam Deck reservation. Waited for what? A year? Yesterday I got an email that I can pay up if I want to, and have it shipped.
The system just works, and it throws the scalpers under the bus. The entire "New thing is out!!! Stampede charge the stores!!!", is just so primitive. I would take the reservation system any day. You can only have so many different credit cards lol.
@@ivanbenja4 This isn't something a techtuber who gets sent stuff for free early or who can subsidize tech as work expenses can really understand.
As a dad with 4 kids and two jobs, I agree with the notion that if I can’t play it portable I won’t play it lol. I have an Xbox series S and I can barely get near the thing. I do however play my switch in bed at night regularly. Some of that is a time issue, some is not being able to get the tv to myself, and the other is I can’t play certain games with my kids in the room. I desperately want to play Elden ring but it would scare the crap out of my kids (they are 6, 4, 3, and 1). The steam deck is looking mighty tempting at this point.
Not to give parenting advice but don't underestimate kids, I was shooting nazis when I was 4. Everybody who had heard about it, including my primary school teacher told my parents they're crazy for letting me play FPS games. Sure I didn't think much past the "guys in grey uniforms are the baddies" but it wasn't an issue. I remember watching my dad play FEAR when I was 6 or 7 though and I forever engraved the scene with the ladder escape into my brain xD It wasn't nightmare fuel or anything just got scared, just like my dad did but now this scene is living in my head rent free.
I haven’t touched my Xbox since march because of becoming a dad. My switch has been the go to system for me if I ever get a chance to play something
Hoo boy...I pray you never get divorced if you're still married.
Haha I played Doom as a kid at their age and I turned out fine 🙃.
DAMN DUDE GET A VASECTOMY
"I paid $500 for an unfinished piece of tech that I just became basically a beta tester for." - To be fair, that's true for ALL early adopters of tech nowadays.
As a OneWheel GT owner, yes.
@@scruffy4743 one wheels are gay
its pretty sad accompanied that with the unfinished AAA games or even some smaller studios games
The hardware is perfectly fine and miles better than the chinese hardware. The software is what we're beta-testing, and it's still better than the chinese crap which the literal COMMUNITY has to build OSes specifically to replease, like elec.
Yeah, but $500?
Just played FF7 remake on my steam deck, 15 years ago I was playing FF7 crisis core. I never expected to play games like Just Cause 3, FF7R or RE2R on the go so effortlessly. It's a game changer for sure.
I was already buying all my multiplatform games on steam. Even indies that got day-1 switch versions, I much prefer knowing I'm running the game on better hardware, and I really only get switch exclusives.
The steam deck is fantastic for me because I can leverage a 500+ game library (at least the compatible ones) in a portable, performant form-factor, and I don't mind tinkering a lot (PCVR trains you for that).
"Don't mind tinkering a lot"
First thing I do when I get most software is that I go into the settings and see if anything's worth changing. This mostly happens with games, and not work apps (as they are usually good as-is), but yeah
@@pacomatic9833 The rule Nr.1 of every gamer ever is to launch the game and head stright to the settings and change a few things, my personal is the Display from windowed fullscreen to "Fullscreen", the audio to stereo or 5.1 if its avialable and the crouch from ctrl to the latteral mouse button and melee to the 2nd latteral button of the mouse.
@@Crow-lz7et Yeah, the first things I usually do are bump up FOV (most games seem to default to around 10 degrees too low for me) and disable any of these that are on by default (unless they really build the game's atmosphere): motion blur, chromatic aberration, film grain, and vignettes.
@@EricJW Same
this is exactly why i wanna get one eventually. I tend to really only play handheld mode, it's the whole reason why i chose the switch lite and haven't regretted that one bit. I rarely play games on my PC but I know I'm missing out on a lot of games I would definitely get if I had them handheld. Plus the option of potentially adding emulators and having my roms portably alongside my steam games all in one device is a nice bonus too. I'm still gonna wait a bit for them be a little more polished/finished and readily available, but the concept is great and I think I'll definitely buy one down the line.
I would still pre-order one if you're planning on getting one down the line. The wait time right now is a year or something so the OS will certainly be a lot more polished by then. Also you don't actually have to pay anything but 5 bucks until your turn comes so you can change your mind at any time.
If you have interest definitely put in a $5 reservation asap since the queue line is very long. You don't have to pay full price until right before they ship it to you and you can refund your $5 reserve price if you don't want it anymore. The $5 reservation also pays part of the steam deck off. If you reserve now you're probably looking at maybe late 2022/early 2023 to be able to get one imo
The preorder system was by and far the best I've seen in years for anything. You clearly didn't struggle trying to get a PS5 or a new Xbox if you think the steam deck preorder system was bad
This definitely gives me higher hopes for mine when it arrives between July and September. I was already excited to play Doom Eternal on it but also my huge Steam Library. I'm sure not every game is optimized for it but I have an extensive collection of games on Steam and I want to be able to sit on my couch and play them and not have to sit in front of my desktop pc. Also being able to play my PC games when away from home is going to be great as well.
For sure! The library of verified games is growing daily and they've added thousands more since launch.
@@RKramer105 it's been torture honestly. I keep looking at the list of verified games I can't play on the Steam Deck yet because mine won't ship for a few more months lol. I'm getting excited! I'm impressed at how hard valve is working on revising the experience.
@@matthewbarrios1028 Just remember at least you'll have more features and verified games from the get-go if that helps (My buddy says no it does not help) XD
@@RKramer105 😆 🤣
What you described is how I've been using it. I have a great desktop PC, and for some games, I really will want the horsepower and very nice display attached to it. But for a ton of other stuff, it's just way nicer to sit on the couch and play. Also nice to be able to not be at the same desk I work at all day while I'm trying to relax with a game. It definitely has become a bit of a LAN party machine too, since either I can take it to a friend's house, or the friend can use it when they come over to mine. Super convenient.
I preordered in the first couple of hours and finally got to buy the deck today. I think it's the way how every piece of tech that's out of stock all the time should be sold. Fk scalpers!
im glad you recognise the advantage of buying a game on steam and suddenly owning it on a million devices
Like he said, not having to dock is surprisingly awesome :)
This pre-order system is well better you don’t need to deal with scalpers making bots to search the stores and you actually get the console in a better order instead of having to watch the website every week
Steam Deck grew on me on such short time. Not a day goes by without using it. Having the Steam library on the go is just beautyful. Moreover it's great for Gamepass subscribers, just yesterday I played Fortnite in cloud and it was really good.
considering console launches in the past that were total car wrecks, I wouldnt have called it unfinished... considering the number of games that worked at launch, it still absolutely eclipses every launch library for any console launch in history, add to the fact the incredible performance and it was an extremely accomplished launch at their FIRST attempt... BOTW still has slowdowns in game without an update to fix it, so you're stuck...
I have no idea where everyone gets the 'unfinished' label but if a console like the steam deck at launch was considered unfinished, I would consider the switch unfinished in its current state considering the limitations on online play, the design of the switch - the joycons are cheap and are literally half finished controllers, unlike the deck thats analogue sticks surpass xbox controllers, then touchpads, better triggers, etc...
in terms of functionality, in comparison the switch is currently in alpha stage, I mean, nintendos online play wasnt implemented at launch at all, the double standards are hilarious
The OG GPD win 1 ran an Intel Atom CPU that could at best run Xbox360 Era titles at 24fps on a good day at minimum settings for 400$
The Steam Deck was purpose-built To run Xbox One games for breakfast at the same price.
It really just depends on how Computer Literate someone is it seems. Being able to tweak the Steam Deck's every little thing is it's greatest strength. If you can't even begin to understand what your own use-case is its probably not for you.
He can go back to his System that refuses to acknowledge the existence of his Bluetooth Headphones in peace.
I am still waiting for my Steamdeck, so i can't tell the hardware in hand. But the Steamdeck is a Milestone Project, which of course has it teething problems. And all reviewer which got the Steamdeck and everyone in the first Month were literally Betatesters. There is a hughe Community out there, and Valve fixing the Problems. And that is the big Difference to something like Nintendo or Sony. (Mircosoft taking the easy Part using Windows API's) Valva works with the Community and Responds to Suggestions as they have a hughe Experience with Steam for Consumer Problems. There is a Reason why Steam literally killed 3 or 4 other Platforms, not by underbidding them but by delivering the superior Consumer Experience. By simply allowing other Games be launched over the Steam Launcher etc.
So Valve works on it and they got already Experience with their failed Steam Machine. A Success of the Steam Deck may even revive the Steam Machine. So one Month of trouble and Betatesting had to be expected but it would be nice for Major Magazines to Review the Steamdeck in Oktober 2022, when the Produktion is ramping up, the Accessability goes up and the OS is more polished, and Proton Shows it's strengh.
I honestly fail to see the issue with the steam deck preorder system. It's literally the most fair you can get, barring in mind technical issues that will always crop up.
You get to pay retail price and get a deck as soon as it's your turn in the line, no scalping, no anxiety about whether you can get to a store in time that *might* have stock that might even be priced higher. Yeah the wait is long, but that's how long it takes to make them, if you got yours earlier, then someone else would be getting theirs later.
Honestly, who has an argument against this system!?!
Perhaps alot of these people are used to having an "in" to getting these things and aren't used to having to wait in line with us peasants.
@@puffersays9155 that's just stupid, it doesn't take a village idiot to understand how either system works.
The simple argument against it is that unless you were incredibly lucky and got an order within a few hours of the launch window, you're likely not getting it until 2023 at the earliest. I think the 512GB model in the UK is currently dealing with sales around an hour after launch? Contrast that to the PS5, where I've had around 5 different opportunities to purchase at retail since the Deck pre-order went in, and I've not even been looking particularly hard.
You can argue that it's 'fairer' system, but in all honesty it's hardly fair when it was essentially pot luck if you actually got an early order. Sure, you get a guaranteed Deck at some point, but that's no different to the PS5 situation ultimately.
@@BigDoniel What? That's not disproving anything I've said and isn't really logical or correct?!
Lets for arguements sake, say you have 100 people who all want a steam deck and it takes a year to make 100 steam decks. How would you best distribute those units? Randomly drop them on a retailer and have everyone make a mad dash for them and when you run out of a small amount of stock have consumers wait with no knowledge of when the next drop is going to be and miss out on opportunities for the product even more?!
Valves process was "We're gonna tell everyone a day in advance when we're selling the device, what we're selling, how to get it and how the rules work." Ofcourse, the demand was huge and in the first 15-20 minutes people suffered to get the device. This is not unheard of. Name me ONE system in the world that can handle millions of people all trying to create orders at a preorder open?
I was there the moment orders went live. I had my order crash on me 15 times. I ended up getting an order placed at 15 minutes past 6 UK time for a 512gb unit. I got my reservation email last thursday.
Did you know that the 512gb UK unit was actually the highest demand out of all the pools and has the slowest moving que? If you're in europe and ordered a 64gb model for example, you could have ordered hours and hours after launch and already have your unit by now.
Your statements are not factual, they're lies at worst and confusion at best. The system is fair, people are only waiting a year if they decided to order much later than everyone else. This is how fairness works, those that made the effort to order as early as possible get it as early as possible. The fact people are waiting a year with this system DOESN'T mean that if Valve used more traditional preorder methods people would get their units quicker... if anything more people would never get their decks, because they'd have to track stock drops, try and fight preorder openings constantly (the issues you faced trying to get a steam deck on launch day? Try that on every stock drop) and more...
Again. HOW. AM. I. WRONG?
@Steven Turner I wish more people could see it today way tbh
I have been a big fan of the Steam platform for years, and I am very excited to when I will get my Steam Deck. I know there are different target audiences for things like this, and I am definitely in the audience that the Steam Deck is made for. I used to love playing games portably on my PSP and PS Vita, but over time I got more into PC gaming from console gaming. Now I primarily work from home, and I don't really want to sit at the computer in my basement office where I have already spent the last 8 hours to working, just to play a game. I have been doing some game streaming with Steam Remote Play to a tablet with my Steam Controller, but it isn't the same. I have tried playing on my HTPC, but then I feel I am taking over the TV at the end of the night, and my wife doesn't want to just sit and watch me play a game. So when I can finally get my hands on mine, I can sit on the couch to play, not take over the TV, and still be able to spend some time with my wife at the end of the night watching something on TV. I can also take it with me where ever I go, and it runs many emulators perfectly, and I can use Steam Input for games, and... and... and... To me, it is the device I have been waiting for and wanting for years. I am very much looking forward to getting my hands on my own.
Yes, this is an indie powerhouse. There's way more games exclusive to the steam deck than for any other console out there, including Switch. I honestly don't understand why so many reviewers complain about the game library for the deck. You also don't have to do as much tweaking as you imply. You never really need to use desktop mode or do much tweaking if you want a console-like experience and limit yourself to the 3000+ titles officially set as verified/playable, which is roughly the same number of games that are available for PS4 today.
It's unfair how many people seem to selectivelly choose to compare it with either a PC or a console based on what makes it look worse. Instead of just taking it for what it is and what it actually offers out of the box... of course the decks gives you the freedom to tweak it so you can play things not intended for it, but it doesn't force you to. If you don't like tweaking just don't do things that require tweaking. I've been using my deck for over two months (I was in the first batch of preorders) and I've been playing and enjoying a huge amount of games which all worked perfectly from the get go, because I didn't wanted to mess with it. If you are doing all that messing is only because you want to, not because you have to. So I think it wouldn't be fair to complain about the user friendliness of things that you aren't really supposed to do even if they just allow you to do whatever you want with the device.
if they didn't had the option to thinker with it they would either be complaining about the lack of options, or simply not mentioning anything about it
Yep it's absolutely insane how many indie games are on pc. The Switch only provides a fraction of what's out there so you're definitely missing out on some
We don't all own an Apple computer, Switch, Game Boy, Windows 11 computer and pocket go hand held device. Of course, if you got 3 grand for all these devices, then you don't need a Steam Deck. Now comes the Steam Deck, with a whole community of Linux programmers. By this time, Steam had already been working with all the programmers in the Linux community dedicated to improving protondb experience. Emulators for tinkers has well been documented on TH-cam videos and Github pages. So skies the limit for any tinker or any person willing to spend the time to learn emulators and import over 15,000+ games. Out-of-the-Box experience is nice, but emulators will take the experience to new heights. Wish you all the best of luck.
@@cstroh3790 Sure, but my point was that it's unfair for someone to take away points in a review for the deck just because they find the tinkering is not user friendly enough for them.
You are not required to tinker to enjoy your deck. The same way as you don't have to hack your Switch to enjoy it. Sure, hacking and tinkering unlock a lot of possibilities, but it's not required, so reviewers should stop complaining that it's hard or troublesome to tinker in the deck or run homebrew or officially unsupported stuff on it.
Specially when the same people have Switch reviews were they aren't complaining about homebrew being hard to run in there, even though it's much much harder to tinker with a Switch than with a deck.
I think some reviewers are looking at the deck as if its main purpose was to use it in ways not officially supported by Valve. So they do that and then complain that the support isn't great.
The only games Valve has officially endorsed are the verfied and playable ones. For the rest you have no guarantees, in the same way as Nintendo doesn't give you any guarantee that you are gonna be able to hack your Switch to play homebrew.. the only difference is that Valve is not actively discouraging you from trying, and in fact they are pretty welcome. But you are not required and not even expected to do so. The intended experience is the one you get out of the box. And that's already a pretty rich one, with a huge catalog that keeps growing each day. Outnumbering most consoles already.
I think steam games are cheaper because there’s a very high user base and can go on sale regularly. It’s kinda the default platform for 99% of people for pc gaming
The pre-order system is excellent, and I say this as someone who put in my reservation in July last year and was only just able to pay for mine in the last 10 minutes.
It's so much better than stock hunting.
Same!!! I got mine last week, absolutely love the Reserva system!!
The developers at steam release builds extremely quickly. Pretty much every time you open steam you have a new build of it with a change log. So that's a plus. Nintendo on the other hand is horrible.
"Improved system stability" every couple of months :P
Nintendo has sold more than 100,000,000 switches and Valve is going to be doing great if they get 1,000,000 Steam Deck sales. Yet the Steam Deck developers are putting in 100x the effort when it comes to improving experience.
@@jonlaw16 Preach! I'm still dumbfounded by the embarrassing lack of account icon options to this day, just to use a minor example.
@@jonlaw16 Not to mention that Valve is taking a loss with the Steam Deck.
@@Gramini I'm surprised the thing hasn't turned into a solid slab of granite yet.
sick thumbnail.
omg thanks jerryrigeverything 🥺👉👈
Heroic launcher works well and was pretty quick and easy to setup, so I'm not sure what he means. Definitely a better option than installing a completely different os onto the deck, which affects a lot more than just epic games.
It isn't perfect.
I have Bloodstained on GOG and tried using both Heroic and Lutris and both gave me a headache only for that one game. It didn't give me any stats on its installation for Heroic and I had to install GOG's offline install files myself to get it to work on Lutris.
But I think it's mostly on Bloodstained as it doesn't want to work as it kept freezing after the intro boss. Seems like a problem for only the non steam versions.
@@bioforest6602 Definitely not perfect, but installing a whole new OS which could have a lot of issues other than just some games not working is not really a great option.
Personally I'll wait until dual booting is officially supported and then install Windows so I can easily switch back and forth.
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I also installed F.E.A.R and Theif Gold from GOG with Lutris and they actually worked so it can work, just not with everything, which is a bit of a problem, especially with games that are considered playable on Steam Deck.
Didn't know that even John Wick bought the Steam Deck too.
Nah bro that def looks like jesus
I have been absolutely blown away by the deck. I expected to want to install windows to run two specific games. One game was working by the time I got the deck. The other....I don't care because the OS features are pretty great. The new ability to tweak the refresh rate of the screen is something else. Also, docking and using FSR to upscale from 720p to 1080p is pretty amazing as well. Playing a new game that looks reasonably good in terms of graphics settings and then looking over to see it's just the deck doing all of the work is a sight to behold. I had never played No Man's Sky before, but it is absolutely the perfect game, for me, on the deck.
I'd rather play an Indie on the Steam Deck or on PC in general than I would on the Nintendo Switch, the downgrade in visuals can be really noticeable sometimes and the framerate is all wonky on some titles, at least on PC, I know what im getting
The moment I stopped using my switch for indies is when even the indies were struggling. Games like hades drop fps through battles, the switch is ancient hardware by now and Nintendo knows. The switch pro rumour was that they would have used a 3050 class card but they scrapped it due to shortages.
we will probably have to wait till 2025 for the switch 2 with a 5050 class gpu, Nintendo's marketing will have a field day "Switch 2 almost 20x stronger than switch 1's gpu" (keeping in mind that switch's gpu is 7 times weaker than a 1060)
@@khaledm.1476 Wow do you think it's gonna happen? Nintendo will never leave the hybrid console market so a switch 2 will probably have a SD gen 1 or a d9000 instead of a gpu because gpus now are as big as boxes.
@@shlokshah5379 Nintendo has alot of analytics now about how people use their switches. The switch family has been extremely lucrative for Nintendo and I don't see them abandoning them anytime soon.
I am expecting the next switch to be have full back-compat with the previous one and allow you to transfer your purchases, your subscription carries over as well.
I think there's room for both a portable switch and a dedicated home console switch, alot of people would like to play nintendo games at higher fidelity.The home console switch would be a family device and the handheld switch would be a personal device kinda like a imac and an ipad (this might not be the best analogy).
As for the handheld switch mobile gaming is shaping up nicely AMD's upcoming apu phoenix is rumoured to be stronger than a 3060 mobile chip (about as strong as a desktop 1080). By the time switch 2 releases in 2025 technology would have advanced so far and the switch could legit see up to a 20x boost in performance (keep in mind that's because the current switch is about 10 times weaker than a gtx 1060 and cards 2 times stronger than a gtx 1060 are very common) and with the advent of DLSS possibly 3.0-4.0 we might see stuff like cyberpunk 2077 fully decked out on raytracing running 720p60 on a switch (That's also due to dlss 3.0 targetting raytracing and using machine learning so it could lower the impact by alot).
As for the switch 2 home console that would be stronger than a PS5 because it launched 5 years later and could compete with a PS5 pro if that comes to fruition
@@khaledm.1476 I don't know where that rumor of 3050 class Graphics came from, but the laws of thermodynamics say that it's bunk
i always love it whenever i come back to your channel, even the ads are fun
i think my main complaint with handheld gaming like this now is that i have to wear my reading glasses. Getting older sucks.
I also have a ton of rpg maker and linux games i would love to play on the steam deck.
i had death's door sitting in my library for ages, i think since it was released (before i had gamepass). i got the steam deck last week and death's door was the first game i installed, played, and beat on the deck. i had a wonderful experience!
I'm the same with getting games just for the option to play portable. I got so many games both on Steam and Switch just so I would have the option. Even games I won't enjoy playing portable like FPS games. The main issues for me is the lack of save syncing, mods and a bunch of games not on Switch, which the Steam Deck would solve everything for me. But Valve has never sold their hardware in my region, so tough luck for me
That's a pity, hopefully someday Valve bring it to your region. (But evidently it'll be a while since they never expanded the Index's availability)
I'm surprisingly excited about the concept of playing FPS games since it'll have gyro aiming, which is the superior method of controller aiming over the stick.
I used to get indies and retro games on the switch, ever since I got into the emulation scene, I only get 1st party games there.
couldn't agree more. I went in with a very low bar expecting a beta test type experience and have been blown away with how fast they keep improving it. I'm a big fan of portability so mine is going to get a ton of use. even though I don't leave the house. being able to sit on the couch and cuddle with the wife and play just about everything ever between this and my switch has me hyped. proper remote play from my series x and ps5 will make it perfect for me.
Really don't get the frustration with Vavle's preorder system, at least there is a system. You reserve a deck and you WILL get a deck eventually, no scalping BS. The PS5 came out 18 months ago and I still can't even preorder one they're so backordered here.
I wondered how I would use the Steam Deck when I got it, and after about 5 weeks I've found I literally bring it everywhere with me. It pairs instantly with my phone too so I can even play online if I want practically anywhere. Rune farming in Elden Ring happens a lot.... Now, whenever there is a delay, or empty spot in my day - I look forward to it.
The steam deck is a device that fills a need I didn't know I wanted, or perhaps didn't even acknowledge. When games first started getting cross-save between switch and pc I was wowed, I also thought about a combination of yuzu on pc and switch so I can play the game portable and locally.
Then the steam deck came and said you can play every game you want portably and have cloud saves, plus here's a massive library of games with insane discounts and you don't even have to buy the game twice to experience it portably. Did we mention the steam deck is also 7-8 times stronger than a switch
For the external keyboard mention, I'm curious if you've tried using the on screen keyboard. If you use the 'STEAM' + 'x' button combo it will bring up the keyboard and you should be able to type just like an external keyboard. Every game I've tried that said it might require a keyboard I was able to just use the onscreen keyboard
I appreciate that you took the time to update your review. The Steam Deck is constantly being updated so, it’s kind of hard to review. I will agree that it’s a beta product though, I don’t mind.
Got my Deck like 2 weeks ago and I'm just obliterating my backlog and getting tons of achievements. And I have a real gaming PC. But I mostly just use it for computery stuff, not gaming.
Yeah, I am waiting for a Q3 reservation. I think the preorder system itself is fine, but the low amount of initial supply and slow roll out is frustrating. But there are supply chain issues around the world and a chip shortage, so what are you going to do?
Interesting update. I looked more into the AYN Odin and that also has some limitations to consider. I'll be keeping an eye on how the Steam Deck gets updated and tinkered with more to see if it eventually becomes the emulation beast that flawlessly emulates everything console-wise up to the 6th-gen that I've been waiting for.
The AYN Odin is not a good deal at all tbh
its better buying sony xz2 compact, its cheaper and better imo
Ayn odin is an android based device. This is a full blown pc. Big difference. You can do a lot more with this.
@@markmystery3536 Well, it's OK. They have to make a profit.
@@markmystery3536 the AYN ODIN is the best deal for an android dedicated gaming device....
Without consideration of the steam deck score, what would you rate the switch at out of 10?
You have to understand that the Steam Controller was in a similar state when that got released. Now it's like the best controller that I've ever used on PC and use it regularly now.
I’m not huge on the pre-order system but it does at least give me an opportunity to purchase one. I’ve given up on getting a PS5 for msrp because I was trying for hours every single day for months that I was just getting more stressed out than anything else so with this yes I’m waiting a lot longer but there’s a lot less stress for me personally and then I can play my library on the go and since most of my games are good for this form factor it will be a good option for me 🙂
What other system would work ?
If you know one you should work in logistics for valve.
@@excessviscosity6305That would be cool, but, I don't have the qualifications for that sadly. I wish I knew what other system would work. I had a lot of crashes and locked out from the pre-order window so I missed out on being able to get a steam deck Q1 and I had my account for a decade plus, I just wish the pre-order system was done differently but at least I'll get one eventually. I tried to get a PS5 but just gave up cause I would have one in my cart only for the sites to crash and then it would be out of stock :/
I can't wait to get mine. It's going to open the market up for something with a bit of power that you can carry with you. I love my switch but have a place for steamdeck also
I am going to be excited to see your reaction to the steam deck in the coming months. I know that it has really changed how I feel about my switch and psp vita for on the go gaming. Also you should check out Vampire Survivor to play on the Steam Deck, it is a great game for 3 dollars! Thanks for the videos!
Also love the Sonic unleashed music
Yeess!!
As someone who's using exclusively Linux for everything (and a Windows virtual install for 2-3 tedious things), Steam Deck got me hyped for the future. Not only in gaming, but all other aspects Linux's been left out of, not because it's incapable of doing those things, but because the developers/maintainers of them didn't see it as a choice. Maybe this new era of gaming will finally bring over Adobe to Linux, and force them to focus more on actual quality of their own products
I got my steam deck about a week and a half ago, really loving it. Emulation Station works amazing and more games on steam work than I would think. Transferring files is kind of a pain, get a usc hub asap makes a ton of diff. :)
I really appreciate the updates on your review. I'm sure when this product becomes more widely available it will be a much more polished product.
The price of steam games is what makes the steam deck such an awesome deal instead of paying 60$ for a 4 year old game on the switch i could just pay 15 for the same game on steam not to mention not having to re- buy games on the deck is another added bonus.
Saw this upload on break at work. Can't wait to wait the full thing at home this evening 👌👍
Valves pre order system allowed me to preorder deck on August 26 and today I did the purchase. Makes me love the company even more
the Price of steam games is what gets me. and how infinitely backwards compatible steam is.
the other thing that blows about the switch versions of games is that they have no B/C. they might be backwards compat for the next system but nintendo has historically cut off everything at a point and usually doesn't go over a generation backwards.
Pc ports care far less. I want to go back and play like OG diablo 1 i can do that. i want to go play starwars KOTOR i can do that. i dont need to plug in some nonsense old ass system with controllers that dont even work or their godlessly expensive. i want to play a PS3 game? go use sonys garbage ass controllers that have god awful durability. On steam i can use anything and whatever good and the steam deck being made the way it is just enables the pliability factor of so much.
yeah it looks rough but dear god i cant wait for my preorder to come through. Im fed up of current consoles. If i want to play an Xbox/Playstation/Nintendo game online? i need to buy online? like buzz off with the lame nickle and dime.
Agreed with all of that. I've transitioned from consoles to pc gaming a long time ago, and Steam has been a big driver in that.
The rate at which Valve are addressing issues is impressive. Seeing how the Steamdeck is in 12 months is really exciting, hopefully they can maintain this momentum.
I appreciate that you were willing to make the follow up vid, and welcome to the beta test! lol. I had a hard time swallowing the previous video since I've been thoroughly enjoying the SD myself. I work from home and my gaming setup is in the same space as my work setup, so it's nice to lounge in comfier spaces with a handheld. That said, I completely get your perspective. Like anything in the IT/computer world, the SD takes a bit of work to setup, but once you get past that the pay off is way better than other platforms in the space IMO.
Also, what's wrong with using the GamePass on the SD? lol. More options = better, right? Anyways happy gaming!
The one problem with buying games on Steam is that they don't work as well as they do on other systems you have to go in and mess with them and even then sometimes you still can't get them working properly.
For example Castlevania advanced for some reason you can't switch What audio device the audio is coming out of I've never seen this before on any PC anything.
Another example is that you always have to go in and mess with the controls because the default controls are set up for mouse and keyboard. Also everyone's going to remember that Batman game and how unplayable that was on PC.
Man discovers steam POGGERS
I think I have an idea why games cost more on Switch than on Steam. Remember when they revealed the Switch and said they wanted games to be priced the exact same for both physical and digital formats? It costs more to put a game onto a physical material than to just send it to the buyer as data. Steam has no physical copies of games for the platform. Unless you were referring to digital only games on eShop, then disregard my thought.
Pretty sure Valve puts some games on sale themselves and eats the difference. Pays for itself as it helps drive more users to the platform
I haven't gotten mine yet, but I feel you hit my exact use case in regards to games that sure, look nice, pique my interest, but would never play at my desktop. I only recently discovered your content, I really like your approach and style. Thank you for the excellent videos!
I appreciate the follow up, and glad you found more enjoyment in it.
I'm still baffled why you don't like the order experience. It is clear to me that they put a LOT of thought and effort into this method to try and minimize scalpers as much as possible. Is it perfect? No, scalpers always find a way. But do i feel that it reduced the number of scalpers? Absolutely.
I've been using my Steam Deck for a little over a month and I have to agree that an 8/10 is more than fair. The OS needs a lot of work, but its clear Valve is laser focused on improving the OS and software. At the rate it's improving I can see the software feeling like it might be out of that "Beta" phase by the end of the year. Valve seems to think this as well as it appears that their production is slowly ramping up to deliver a buttload of Deck's by the end of the year.
Personally I really loved the pre-order system. Was it annoying that I had to wait almost 2 months to get mine? Yes. But, ever since scalping has absolutely destroyed the market, I've been wishing that retailers would at least try SOMETHING to ensure the right people get their hands on cards, parts, consoles, etc. It was frustrating seeing the retailers take this "whelp, we're selling product so we don't care" attitude, when they were fully in their power to change that. Before the Deck was even announced, I was thinking about a system where you had to show proof of identity to get one.
While the system Valve put in place was frustrating at times, it meant a lot to me as a customer that they were willing to put me and other honest customers first. Customer appreciation goes a long way for me. And not the pandering stuff, but I like to buy products where the company understands and works with their customers even when they don't have to. I haven't bought any new tech since the original launch of the Switch, mainly because of prices, but also because I don't want to go hunting and competing with hordes of ill-intentioned people. Valve made sure that I, a long time user and enthusiast of their platform, was able to enjoy the new release of their product. Just my thoughts.
As an addendum, I'll just get my other perspective out there on this vs the Switch. I actually sold my Switch to finance this one, not because I was strapped for cash, but because I just never used it. I'm someone who likes to have everything localized and organized, and having all these games spread across so many systems bugs me. Having a portable that syncs to my already established library and profile was huge. I would have bought and used this thing if the only game I played on it was Stardew Valley, just to have that connection to my main platform. On top of that, I found the Switch's library pretty lacking, because I only wanted to play exclusives and the only ones they had that were interesting were BOTW and Odyssey, personally. If a game was on the Switch but also on the PC, I just bought it on PC. All those factors combined made switching (heh) a no brainer.
Did you only wait 2 months from pre- order or am I reading that wrong !
@@Gemgem-wz1xf Oh no, I got mine two months after the first ones were shipped out.
Are graphics setting saved locally to PC? Like if I played Witcher 3 on steamdeck and had to lower the settings to get it to run, would it still be maxed out when I boot it up on my PC?
I'm so happy you found a great use for the steam deck! I know you still have issues but it's nice to see you enjoying it 😊
So far the Decks still gives you more options than a stock Nintendo Switch, i can't wait until the community discovers a non expensive way to securely install CFW on the Switch.
I just can't wait to get mine. I have put a lot of work on Stardew Valley on my PC after playing it on the Switch but miss being able to play on the go. I just want to be able to play wherever I want. Might even get back into racing games like Forza Horizon 5.
I still hold that doing the preordering the way they did was the best option given their limited produciton capacity. At least this way you get one in the order that you got in line for one instead of the mess that we have for getting a PS5.
I mean no offense but the idea of dropping $500 usd to play Stardew made me chuckle. Like I 100% know that's not your only reason to buy a steam deck but the thought of it still made me laugh a little.
@@strayiggytv Jokes on you! I got the 512GB! Haha. Yeah I just love the idea of playing around the house whether on the couch or wherever. I have a feeling I'll be playing a ton of indie games since they tend to do well on a mobile console.
having the option to play portable is a huge selling point for me. Even if I'm most likely going to play a game at my desktop, I'd REALLY like the ability to take the game with me if I'm going on a trip somewhere with my family, or just want to play the game in another room, or outside.
Great video! Helped me add more games to my Steam library/wish list. I would like more videos covering games for owners of both systems; i.e., which games are better on Steam Deck or Switch, and which games are exclusive to Steam or Nintendo.
The steam deck changes the gaming scene, and it will only get better with each update.
I think the steam deck should be a great success if games are made with the specs in mind. After all, this is one of the most if not, powerful mobile gaming device ever. If it isn't successful, then wtf.
I'm very glad you got it eventually, even if it took a month of owning the Deck!! The "playing all the games I'm not playing because they're not available on a portable gaming thingy, even though I usually play them docked" is the whole reason the Deck exists in my opinion. I realized it the moment it was announced, reserved it then and I have FINALLY just ordered mine, still haven't touched it yet.
There's something magical about having the option to undock and keep playing, even if you're playing docked primarily, that makes it much easier to hop into a game in the first place. Plus, PC gaming is a little weird when your PC is not ONLY for gaming, it gets tangled up with work. The Deck is solving all these problems.
Did they fix the issue when you dock it and the deck's built in controls are still Player 1 even if you have a controller hooked into the dock or connected via BT?
Hey, new to this channel and a new deck owner here. I felt the previous deck video was overlooking the overwhelming positives to search for the negatives. The interface still has some roughness I hope they fix, but the things deck actually does is important -- it enables a huge number of games that have never been on a portable in this price category before. There's a huge distinction between Switch and a PC in that you can do what you want with it, without needing a jailbreak. Games and non-game stuff from outside the Steam store are all on the menu. People come up with their own improvements.
I love my Steam deck. So much that I already put my Switch on sale. I can play pretty much my entire Steam library on the go now. It is marvellous!
Ur vids look day and night from the first couple ones. Wow, wow, wow. Im weirdly proud
Reserved mine back in February 2022. It is now September 14 2022. Just got mine today and i LOVE IT i just wish the battery life was longer & it didnt get so hot so fast. But as a PC player mainly.. i get it.. more power, more heat. But even tho it does heat up pretty quick. If you just sleep it for like maybe not even 5min it’ll be cooled back down. And i don’t mean it beats to an unusable state. I just didnt kno if it was normal at first so id cut it off when it did. But it hasn’t diminished quality at all.. yet
The option of more indie games in a form factor I'm more familiar with is a tempting one, but just knowing the way I play my Switch currently I think that the docking method not being ideal for a living room form factor would make me play it less than I'd like.
Lol. Second part of this video is basically why everyone was so excited for the Deck a year ago. Welcome to one year ago Wulf.
You're one year away from becoming a hardcore PC gamer
I preordered mine day one. I was placed in Q3 2022. I finally had the chance to purchase it. I receive mine tomorrow. Very excited to see this thing in action
6:46 yes
Because having more play options inherent to the platform does indeed add value to a purchase for that platform.
starting off a video with telling the viewer that the title is compleatly wrong is like the coolest things you can do
I feel the opposite way, why would I want to buy stuff on the switch or keep gamepass now that I have the steam deck on the way not to mention emulation
My biggest issue with the Switch is the "switch tax" and that I'm more of a PC gamer anyway. I have amassed a huge library of Steam, Epic, GOG, Rockstar, and Origin games. I'm getting the Deck for Christmas this year and it will open up love for gaming casually on old, indie, and emulation games that I've missed out on.
Preorder for the steam deck was amazing. Such quick delivery times too. Zero scalper issues that I came across.
The only reason I'm happy about Steam Deck preorders is because it helps mitigate scalping. It's by no means a great solution but how have y'all forgotten about scalping already?
I feel like I live in another world than some of you folks that prefer how the PS5 and Series X were released. I wasn't able to get an Xbox Series X until a few months ago. I preordered a month late and am still guaranteed a Steam Deck by Q3.
Yeah, not everyone's dayjob is spending time hunting for a ps5 or graphics card. The preorder email was was easier.
@@SamuelSarette Exactly! It's hard to get stuff even IF you watch the supplies constantly due to bots.
Valve's pre-order system is very very good. They're literally counting on refundable $5 to produce a product with an uncertain future, while having to fight with chip shortage and big inflation issues.
Meanwhile Nintendo still charges full-price for digital games for stores that get useless when they die, as those games get obsolete and inacessible over time because of the hardware just naturally dying.
The input latency with Gamepass streaming looked noticeable in the B roll from here. Is it any worse than on other platforms?
lmao. That pushing your hair to the side while seated on your coach shot.
Yooo, im too early
Me two
Same
Considering I own tons of games on Steam so I won't need to rebuy anything and a lot of them support controller natively and a majority of them are already listed as great on deck games. Ya, Steam deck to me sounds really awesome and an honest true next-gen handheld gaming device especially when you hold the deck next to a switch they don't even seem these devices are even on the level in terms of features.
Same here, I’d like a steam deck for the same reason I have the switch. Portable indie games. And thanks to humble bundle and many steam summer sales I have too many unplayed games.
I didn’t realize reserving the one with the most memory would mean it’d take longer to get one. That kinda bums me out, but as a mobile only gamer I’m very curious about the Deck and can’t wait to try it. Really hope it’ll be able to run games that never get to switch like strategy games. Thanks for the review, hope for more of these kind of updates regularly!