Simplifying complex territorial jumble around Kashmir between India, Pak & China | ep 235
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- In episode 235 of Cut The Clutter, Shekhar Gupta explains the importance of the magnificent sphere of influence of the undivided state of Kashmir, that once stretched from Aksai Chin in the east to Gilgit and Baltistan in the west
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Okay this needs to be taught at schools literally.. My niece questions me why are there so many versions of maps of India. This has really been educational. It's fascinating and hopeful that a lot of independent journaling platforms like yours are now the future of real unbiased information and news. Like in the words of Bertolt Brecht "The worst illiterate is the political illiterate".
30 minutes of serious news without any drama
Absolutely
Even the map taught to us in schools is a fake map.
@@yousufmuhammadiofficial9281 shut up piggy
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This ain't news, this is information.
What a pleasure it is to see such a complicated matter decluttered and presented in such a concise manner - devoid of any biases and emotions. One of your most valuable episodes, Shekhar ji! Thank you!
I have started watching your videos..very informative .u potray news just as it is supposed to be without any biasness ..India needs more journalists like u..
One of the best videos on Kashmir that I've even seen. Never knew about Gilgit Baltistan , good explanation. Was it ever a part of the Sikh empire?
Akupara , yes it was ruled by Raja Hari Singh. Now no Sikh or Hindus lives there
@@gjn17 Hari Singh was not a Sikh.
Akupara , where did I say Hari Singh is sikh?😂
@@gjn17 I asked if GB was part of the Sikh empire. Meaning was it ruled by Sikhs .
You Yes it was ruled by Hari Singh.
Me he wasn't a Sikh he was a dogra.
You arguing like a 5 yr old .
For others.. watch shekar Guptas videos on the topic he explains it well.
Before dogra ruler sikhs ruled the region
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20:35 Maharaja was too smart...he lived in his own fantasies😂
I am from Jammu and Kashmir and i believe that the loss of Gilgit Baltistan to pakistan is a very big strategic loss to India. It should have been recovered at all costs. Even if we had to give up PoK. Had that been with us there would not have been any China Pakistan Border and thus no CPEC and we would have had land routes to Afghansitan, Central Asia and rest of Eurasia. Hope someday we capture it back. This should be the number 1 priority.
It has to start from there. Then only can India intervene. Pretty sure cash strapped Pakistan won't be able to handle POK that efficiently.
😂👏👏 Dream it . Our tactical nuclear weapons are ready for that day .
well its too late now. China and Pak will make a sandwitch of India there. keep dreaming
Nuclear weapons are just for show off as long as they also have warheads with them. Gilgit Baltistan would have been an asset to India bec that would give us a direct corridor to Afghanistan. And that will certainly change the whole demographics and the world view on the whole matter
@@zakirali8721 China would rather have it under India than blackmailing Pakistan lol. Times are changing mate. It doesn't take much to show the world who's nice and who isn't.
Worth watching , for youngsters who dont want to read all books........Thanks Shekhar ji
Hi Shekhar, great video as always, here are some points from my side regarding things you talked about -
1) On 1947-48 and whether we could have ended things then and there - that's a mixed opinion from my side, even if we had the military capability to push Pakistani irregulars and their army completely out of Kashmir, and even if Nehru hadn't gone to the UN, the one problem that we would face was the instrument of accession itself that stated that the accession was conditional till a plebiscite was hold to ascertain the will of the people of the former princely state of J&K. Pakistan could have raised this point in the UNO where we would have had something similar to UNSC resolutions 47 and 80 being passed, but with no Pakistani Army presence we would have probably held on to all of Kashmir at that point (except for Aksai Chin) and all Pakistan could do was make diplomatic moves like going to the UNO. It would be very similar to how it is for us with China on Aksai Chin, where we would be holding all of Kashmir and all Pakistan could do is call it disputed, but still the Indian government and Army would be on all of Kashmir.
2) On Aksai Chin - I call this a complete screw up from the British more than anything else. The British cartographers repeatedly released maps of British India in the 1900's till 1947 where at times they would mark that territory as part of British India and sometimes they would mark that as part of China, in their final maps before 1947 the territory was marked as India's. The Chinese used this to their advantage to lay claim to this area, had the British not played this on-off game then this thing would have never happened, and we could have rightly pushed the Chinese out. At that time no one anticipated that communist China would be so territory greedy and do such a thing, anyway incidents like that and 1962 have taught that never trust the Chinese.
3) On Gilgit-Baltistan - A small addendum that I would like to make is that all the officers and men of the Gilgit-Scouts were not in favor of accession to Pakistan. Gilgitis since 1850 when they were added to Kashmir by the ruler at the time, have since then and to this day never considered themselves as Kashmiri and dislike being labeled Kashmiri as the people in PoK and our side of Kashmir. In 1947 some of the Gilgit-Scouts had decided to go independent from India, Pakistan and the Maharaja, the British officer in charge Major William Brown was of the opinion that Gilgit should go to Pakistan as he felt that the locals there wanted that.
The pro-independence officers did go independent, and Pakistan's representative, Alam Khan (who was bought in by Maj. Brown) told the people that he would not tolerate their independence nonsense and that they were being led by madmen and when the Indian Army would come knocking on their doors, Pakistan would not help. A few days after this the Maharaja signed the instrument of accession joining India, William Brown at that time launched a coup against Governor Ghansara Singh and hurled the Pakistani flag allowing Pakistan to take over Gilgit. Therefore to say all the Gilgit Scouts revolted to join Pakistan is somewhat inaccurate.
Great video though, I have thoroughly enjoyed your content on Kashmir over the last few days.
Very good research! Commendable!
@@jayeshk.d.3429 Thank you sir, I appreciate your kind feedback.
@@crayxt6 Wow man, thanks for your effort. Got to know a lot.
The mutiny of William Brown was huge treason to the empire because Mountbatten acceded GB to India but still Brown was awarded MBE by the British government. Also, before taking Ghanshyam Jamwal, the governor sent by Hari Singh to GB after his treaty of accession to India, into custody, Brown warned him that if GB were to be a part of India, they would have to take a lot of other steps to prevent bloodshed but the pathetic governor didn't pay any heed to that and now we don't have GB anymore with us.
Excellent analysis man. Simply great. If possible write in detail regarding each of this
You should talk about Sushma Swaraj just the way you did for sheila Dixit.
He won't
He already did when she decided not to contest.
@Raghu Reddy She ripped apart Delhi for so long and yet she's better. claps!
Hello Shekhar Sir, you have been putting out these amazing Cut the Clatter videos one after one and all of them are goddamn brilliant. Lately, I have become an avid viewer of your channel and honestly, you are the best. Kudos to you Sir, please keep bringing more.
@Delphic Tableau I have seen a change in him after the Lok Sabha election results, he's been more neutral and pragmatic about things.
Thank you for doing the research and explaining the Kashmir jumble in such a easy to understand way.
I very much appreciate Shekar Gupta ji for educating us about this region. My humble respects, Namaskar to him.
In short after partition India's despicable neighbours started biting off India's head and India's clueless leader Nehru was following Gandhigiri instead of strengthening India's defence forces.
No, Nehru was using his head to be able to include a muslim majority state into India, to the limit he could.
@Swapnadip Pradhan no he was doing that because leader of the state wanted him to,
Please read just a book of history and you all will stop following these uneducated bjp clowns.
@@yousufmuhammadiofficial9281 ha ha😂
@@prax-wt3gc bro please leave Hinduism and it's evil caste
He did what had to be done at the time.
I've been studying these maps for years given obsession with geo politics. Very educational episode.
That was an excellent talk by you Mr. Shekaharji, everything in a nut-shell, but now I got a clear cut idea of what is happening now. You did deep research and you did it very well. Waiting for the next episode on Saturday. Keep it up.
I always wondered about this topic thank you "de-cluttering" it!
@@yousufmuhammadiofficial9281 shut up piggy
Yousuf Muhammadi shame on you, you are the worst figure I can ever imagine shut up. You are not capturing your very inaccurate dreams
Best time spent on youtube everyday.. watching your show. Sir you are doing a wonderful job!
Such great work! Thank you for posting this. The videos feel like a private tutorial with Shekar Gupta. Fascinating stuff!
This is Gold! Thanks so much Shekharji!!
Outstanding as always. Shekhar ji, while you are doing all this work, I hope you are also mentoring 100 juniors. You are a real treasure, and we need many more like you in the country to elevate the level of reporting, discussion and debate. Thank you, sir.
Shekhar sir , you always make us WORLDY WISE
Thank you for information.
Nice details 👍
Great explanations, Shekhar. It helps a lot. Please keep doing these kinds of short videos explaining all relevant topics
Thank you Sir for this illustrated "Gagar mein Sagar".
For me, who tries to remain abreast with the latest, there was lot of new and useful information especially that preceding 1962. The year - I was in the Fourth standard, and to this day remember the events of the Indo-Chinese war as covered by the AIR.
Once again THANK YOU 🙏.
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All queries perfectly and solemnly answered!
China claims the entire ladakh, acc to its fiver fingers of tibet policy :-
- Ladakh
- Nepal
- Sikkim
-bhutan
- Arunachal
abhitulya devnath ,we should merge Bhutan also
Sikkim issue is resolved
dhruven vora not from China's side.
India claims Half of China, acc to its Five toes of Phungshuk Wangdu Policy :-
- Tibet
- Manchuria
- Hong Kong
- Taiwan
- Inner Mongolia
The current govt.'s actions gives them all the more motivation. I'm having a feeling that Ladakh is also going to be rendered a buffer zone, should China decide to expand Aksai Chin with militirization.
An interactive map in the background where specific portions are highlighted as you speak would have been very helpful.
Very helpful video though. Actually decluttered the jumble and explained the mess. Thanks.
This answers all my questions on this complex territory. Thank you for such a fantastic explanation.
very very informative - wonderful video !!! Thank you Shekhar ji !
What a presentation.. great job.. amazing
Thank you shekarji for explaining this in simple words....
What he didn’t tell you is here:
Kashmir freedom movement started long before partition. Kashmir was fighting against Dogra rule not britishers, before that was sikh rule, afghan rule etc. then kashmir could free a part from Dogra rule, and named as Azad kashmir. Since most population of JK was much concentrated in kashmir- jammu side, therefore centre of struggle was kashmir valley and jammu. After India’s partition, both countries came and started claiming this country. However, Maharaja was never in favor of annexing with any one.
Nice One..Pls do more videos on various subjects like this (With long Videos)
Sir thank you. This is truly classic Cut The Clutter. Every episode is worthy
I really like this show!! News channels just seem to add noise and increase anxiety levels. This show is informative with limited opinion unlike news channels where it's the other way around !!
Noise and anxiety levels...so true...and a complete lack of objectivity!
Excellent! Congratulations Mr Gupta. No one could have untied these knots better and more clearly. We have spent a lifetime in the studying J&K and serving there and used to wonder why no one brought these facts to fore.
May I also say that I had great reservations about you after the 'Coup' story but seeing you on Cut the Clutter has rehsaped my opinion. Thank you Sir.
Shekhar Gupta sir, after listening to you, India's appetite to regain back Gilgit Baltistan and Aksi Chin has increased and with Modi-Shah duo, there are hopes that this could be a reality one day.
Shekhar dadda, pls do a Hindi version of this edition. Was awesome! Had most of the info, but the way you put it all together is educational. Thank you.
Brilliant job by Shekhar & team! Cut the Clutter has become the gold standard of informational reporting. One request to Shekhar: Write a book on post independent India's history. You'll do a far better job than some self-proclaimed historians have done
Brilliant video. Thank you for explaining the geography and history of the region.
I've been following all your analysis quite religiously. Thank you for such a useful information dissemination! :)
I appreciate gupta ji's timely and comprehensive video program.
Very Informative , thank you 'The Print' !!!
Thank you so much dear Shekhar ji for this important education on Indian history of the most volatile area Kashmir.
Very nice and precise explanation on the Kashmir tangle. Thank u Shekhar Gupta sir
To the point information is all we wanted, news channels have forgotten this, but The Print has understood this and is nailing it with these videos.
Mr. Gupta is turning into the social studies teacher that I wish I had in school. Some of these videos
are valuable reference material for teachers who wish to bring modern Indian history and geography to life for their students. #NCERT
Shakher ji ... very well explained ... encouraging a lot of people to watch it
PERFECT SPEACH TO MAKE PEOPLE CONFUSED.
Very informative. Civil service aspirants should watch. Great video sir.
One of the best, enlightened and classic episodes of Cut the Clutter...And now I believe more after this classic episode we must take POK back for all it's strategic reason.
A great and in simple words explanation on Kashmir territorial issue. hats off to you Sir.
This was so much knowledgeable. Listening to a view of other side is always a pleasure specially if that is not mixed with Patriotic animations.
Thank you very much shekhar sir. This information has indeed decluttered my mind and answered many questions about Kashmir. Looking forward for some more enlightenment from your knowledge and information...
Eye opener and very informative. So much of complication in J&K, very good brief to understand
Amazing presentation. Keep up the great work !!!
Very informative at this critical time.
Thank you and Good luck sir.
Sirji hats offf what a detailed video ....too good shared with all my friends
Sir,great decluttering!
I will read suggested book Slender by thread.
One request please make a show about book review.
Fantastic narrative of kashmir affairs by Shekhar Gupta.
Yes it is a very informational video. Kudos to Shekhar ji.
Complicated history simplified! I thought I was well informed about some of these aspects, only to realise that I wasn't. Must watch episode (and series). Hat tip to the show producers and Shekhar...
This is amazing insight to what many think as a simple Border fighting
Shekhar Gupta, your channel is the best political and intellectual discourse, Very well made and analysed
You are the real gem among the journalists Mr.Guptha
Great homework. Excellent presentation. V well narrated. Unbiased. Now you are on our national side. Good. Nation comes first. Respect you.
Nice explanation on the history. Much need for younger generation.
@@yousufmuhammadiofficial9281 shut up piggy
@@yousufmuhammadiofficial9281 there must be some shame in you or are you so brainwashed.
The book by Lt.Gen.L.P.Sen sounds really interesting. Thanks for recommending it! I shall pick my own copy.
20:02 what about Junadgh and Hyderabad Deccan's signature of accession?
Loved the presentation & uncluttered explanation
Sir, do you have a soft copy of the LP Sen book. It's so expensive that I couldn't buy ☹️
Very nicely explained. Waiting for other episodes.
Really nice and objective assessment. One of the reasons for India not pushing for assimilating the complete PoK through military action in 1947-48 was the logistical difficulties being faced by the Indian Army then.
Bookmarked! excellent reference video. 👍
thank you for such a detailed explanation
Great insight sir. Thanks for this analysis. I am unable to find a print for the book thought to buy
Beautifully put.
i have always wondered what's the deal with POK and today it is all cleared, thank you Shekhar sir.
Thank you sir for this extremely informative knowledge sharing....This is what is much needed for the younger generation. Many thanks too for sharing the names of the books ...not everybody does that ..Thank You
Great, I love the history narrated.
Good work shekarji. Very informative for present generation
Very informative... keep it up!!
very informational ,
thank you very much.
Thanks a lot, this is the information that all Indians should know and understand. Thanks for explaining so clearly.
Thank you very much... how much I would have tried to study, I would never have got this much information
Sir, very informative....very detailed, very precise.
Commendable job Mr. Gupta
Gem of an episode.
really informative...true treasure
Useful information Mr. Gupta.
Very good presentation sir. Thankyou
You explain in such simple language... I think I can top a current affairs exam after listening to you...
A bit of correction, Karakoram pass lies east of siachen and shaksgam rather then west of it. It is situated just north of Doulat Beg ulday and it was the boundary between Ladakh and yarkent on the former trade route
Thanks for this nice explanation
Thank you Shekhar ji. No nonsense . just pure information presented in a very understandable and palatable way. I have literally left counting on the TV for news. And all this is coming from a Modi supporter.
Thanks Shekhar ji for all information
Thanks for the facts.