@@marceltapiesrubio5162lol I started as a Honda fanboy and never thought of Toyota engines besides the 2j and then I bought a Lexus is350 and have fell in love with Toyotas engines and recently found out what the 2zz was and couldn’t believe Toyota made such a bad ass engine comparable to the mighty K series
I had 2 saturn a 1997 SC2 coupe and 2001 SL1. Both bought used. Both made it over 200,000k. One was killed by a deer doing 75 on the highway and the other I sold for 1200 bucks with 201,000 miles 😅 and it's still running to this day. I know the guy I sold it to. 😅
C series is a KILLER engine and highly underrated. Acura Legends are a great example of a “normal” car with the C series. They’re insanely reliable, smooth and sound amazing
Unfortunately the RL is best known as a benchwarmer for its rwd cousins, and by the time it got shawd acura was meaningless. That first gen was beautiful, but honda was overly stubborn not making rwd or v8 cars, and really never spent that much money on acura comparatively.
The 1st gen Legend's C25/C27 is insanely reliable and has no known issues other than lifters getting sludged up and ticking if the oil isn't changed on time, but the 2nd gen Legend's C32 unfortunately quickly became notorious for blowing head gaskets for no apparent reason, which is a real shame because there's no other reason a manual transmission 2nd gen Legend couldn't run virtually forever with no major failures. I think we would see a lot more 2nd gen Legends still on the road if they didn't have that head gasket problem.
@@averyalexander2303 well there is a known issue that causes that, overheating on top of a clogged EGR tube. If you are diligent in cleaning the EGR every 100k miles, you’ll never have an issue with the headgasket. My beater ‘94 Legend is at 374k on the original headgaskets
2GR-FE IS THE GOAT Reliable Fuel efficient Can make serious power NA When boosted can handle 600-700whp with just fuel system And you can find it everywhere for cheap cheap price its a masterpiece
@@kingmarz3635 th-cam.com/video/LfsIsMP9dHQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Y1ixStHDS-UpjVGe There is a filter for the vvt system You need to clean it every 20k miles Especially if you don’t change the oil in its time Maybe if you clean it it will run better
NO you’re the one that’s about to get schooled! The 2GR issues have nothing to do with maintenance. Bad water pumps, leaking timing cover both very common issues and both need engine out to fix and this is one of the hardest engines in history to ever work on 20-24hr jobs costing $2500 $1k to fix the leaking rear valve cover and don’t get me started on the very very common DEATH RATTLE that if not fixed will destroy the engine and these engines are very hard and expensive to get second hand and not to mention install cos everyone wants one to replace their broken ones because they’re all now in the DEATH RATTLE age. The GR series V6 engines are the worse layout of any engine to ever come out of japan and shouldn’t have even made the list. Never buy a vehicle with the toyota GR series engine especially if they’re over 200k km or 10 years age YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
The main problem with J-series engines was VCM, which caused oil burn and could be removed. If it wasn't for that, I think S-Tier would be warranted despite the lack of new technology
I own a used 2012 Accord (J35). It was at 134,000 miles. I've done 3+ hour regular and weekly road trips, put about 20k miles on the car, even drove hard, (in the hot summer and freezing winter) and yet I've needed to add oil to the car. Oil stayed full until oil change.
Acura tech here. The J-series is one of the best engine families ever. However, the VCM is not the only oil burning issue. The J37 variants used spray-on liners to reduce weight. The silicon-impregnated aluminum coating is very similar to nikasil, which was used in many German engines. They used a poor ring design that clogged up in the alusil blocks, resulting in excessive oil consumption. Only the 3.7 litre versions had this particular issue. I’ve owned 5 different vehicles with different iterations of the J. Easily my favorite engine to work on and own. Easily S-tier level.
@@TheMadTubeI love my J37 in my TL. Getting it hot seems to have calmed the oil consumption problem but then it guzzles an incredible amount of fuel for a V6 sedan lmao.
I have a late 2018 Infiniti Q50 with the VR30DDTT, it's not a Red Sport but I have had it tuned so that when I put the car into PERSONAL mode it changes the profile to that of a Stock Q50 Red Sport on Sport+ mode, it cost a few hundred USD to have that done, was relatively simple in fact since its a stock map and there is minimal hardware difference between the RS and the Luxe models. The VR30DDTT is FAST, even stock, its FAST and it's an absolute blast to drive. The early VR30DDTT's had issues with a "porous block" where your block would leak coolant into the engine thus making it drink "the forbidden milkshake" and needing a complete core replacement which was done at Infiniti's cost. There is also another issue with early VR30DDTT engines where the oil dipstick was too short and people were not putting in enough oil for it causing engine failures, that has since been corrected and if you own an early model they do make a replacement dipstick as well. The final "issue" with the VR30DDTT are that it does require 3,000 - 5,000 mile oil changes, even with the best synthetic oil's, the engine is VERY TIGHT TOLERANCED and those twin turbos will cook the hell out of that oil, thermal breakdown happens quickly in these high performance engines, CHANGE YOUR OIL REGULARALY, NO EXCEPTIONS!. It's not really an issue but people tend to push their oil changes to 10K -15K on the regular and they shouldn't with this car. I know a few people locally that have Q50's/Q60's that are pushing 800 hp with just bolt on's and the stock internals hold it easily, it's most common rival is actually the BMW B58 which is a straight six.
Not boltons. You need z1 turbos to push 750 whp on stock internals if you keep the torque below 600lbft. Very impressive for an engine with 3 liter and no forged rods nor pistons. A b58 can get 800whp on stock internals, but keep in mind it has forged con rods and crankshaft. Both amazing engines
I have 101k miles on my stock '16 Q50 Redsport and the VR30DDTT is a great motor that fills up my checklist. I have no problems at all. Did basic maintenance throughout most of my ownership and it hasn't failed. I also own an early gen '08 G37 coupe with the 5AT. The VQ37VHR is also great.
I haven't kept up with cars recently, but for my next car I want something that can make good gains for reasonable sums (currently driving an NA 2011 lexus is350). Is my best option a b58 or vr30 car? What the gt2 stinger? 5.0 coyote? Civic type R?
the VR38 needs to be in an SS tier by itself. I bought a GTR in october and had never driven one. 1 E-85 FF kit later... This car is scary. It is actually insane how beastly this engine is for a V6. The sound, the torque. Japanese National Treasure.
Completely agree with the Toyota GR engine in S tier. I have the 3.5 2GR-FSE in my '13 Lexus GS and it's just incredible. Black sheep is the 2.5 though with massive carbon buildup issues.
I’ve heard of the carbon buildup problems, got a friend with one that does the seafoam trick and between that and oil changes he’s at 230k miles no major issues.
6A13TT is a solid engine for its time. A mate of mine had a Legnum VR-4 back in the early 00’s and we thrashed the tits off it and it handled it no problem. It had AYC like an Evo of the era and was a generally nice car to drive. Very cool cars, it’s a shame you don’t see them anymore.
I've had a 1991 Mazda Xedos 6 with the K-Series 2.0 V6. Though it had 145 bhp, it was quite fast and nimble being very light (circa 1200kg), and the engine was a screamer, though at the end of its life it used about as much oil as a two-stroke.
i take offense to the VZ placement lmao. you're 100% right on the 3VZ and the head gasket issues, but the 5VZ was developed to counter the issues of its predecessor. Different heads and coolant passages allowed it to be a significantly more reliable powertrain with adding a little bit more power. its all jest but i think, yes my opinion, the VZ engine family is one of the best V6 families to have been created in Japan.
Totally fair, that’s another engine that would regularly be a good bit higher. There’s literally not a bad engine on this list, which amazed me as a researched. I would still own a VZ any day.
A good thing to note - the Honda J series engines only ever had oil consumption issues on VCM motors. Anything older (example- J32a2, j35a3) or from a manual version of the later v6 accords never had an issue at all. Those non VCM engines are unkillable with nothing but oil changes and a belt every 100k (easy work). VCM engines are totallt saveable as well with a cheap "VCM muzzler" (basically a secondary coolant temp sensor trick device) that disables the vcm without a check engine light.
Great points. Some of the J series also had issues with spark plugs popping out very rarely, but that's about it as far as I know. My friend has a 2014 Odyssey with the J35Z8 and it's still very solid with no noticeable oil consumption at about 140K miles. The transmission has been junk since he bought it last year with just under 100K, but a failing V6 automatic transmission is no surprise to anyone who knows about Hondas.
I have a 2013 6mt Tl, with the J37. Such a fun N/A motor but definitely has oil consumption issues. Would be interested to do more research into this "VCM muzzler" to see how it works to prevent the oil consumption. My J37 still going strong with 130k miles
@@mateenmazloom359 J37s in particular had some issues also due to the dual VTEC, they would chew through cams. While extremely cool what they achieved with a single camshaft on those engines, they definitely saw wear through abuse.
@@mateenmazloom359 What happens is the rings on the deactivated cylinders get stuck from carbon buildup from not having the heat and pressure of combustion. Once the rings get stuck in their grooves, they sometimes damage themselves and the cylinder walls. You can try some type of VCM muzzler and hope for a long term decrease in oil consumption along with regular oil changes using a good oil, but don't expect a miracle. The idea is to get the muzzler BEFORE problems start. It's much more effective as a preventative than a repair.
@@averyalexander2303The J37 suffers from oil consumption due to the cylinder wall material and piston ring design. I don’t believe they have VCM at all.
I was curious where you would rank the GR series engines. I bought a used IS 350 with the 2GR FSE engine and I cannot rave enough how good this engine is. Powerful, efficient, smooth, insanely reliable. I've got 185k on the clock and it doesn't burn oil at all and runs like new. I honestly don't know when this engine will ever die lol.
VQ, VR are the most powerful and the early VQ30 engines were very smooth. The J series as a whole is super smooth and refined as an engine. They are my favorite Japanese V6s
i’ll add something for the vq it’s really cool how many cars this engine comes in. there are infiniti suvs that have it, those come fwd… some come awd. infiniti awd systems are really easy to crack. pull a fuse, weld the diff and you have a 350z hatch
ive got an 06 eclipse gt and i love the 6g75m, really wish people did more with these motors. pretty easy to get 300+ hp out of if you remove the anemic exhaust on them. and the bottom end can handle about 500hp before needing to replace the rods
As an owner of an '04 Infinity G35 with the VQ I was wondering why this tier list didn't already exist on the channel. Properly placed in the S tier as it should be. thanks
This one has been requested for awhile, had to make it a priority and got it knocked out. Glad you enjoyed the video, and I couldn’t put the VQ anywhere else it’s just too good!
I've owned 2 Toyotas with the VZ. The 3 VZ did pop a head gasket right on time at 100K Miles. The 5VZ is in a T100 and has the dealer installed TRD supercharger. I love it. It's non interference, built like a stone axe and hasn't given a lick of trouble in 25 years. I also used to have a Chrysler Sebring that had what I think was the Mitsubishi 2.5 6g. It was another trouble free engine. My only complaint is the rear spark plugs were hard to get to.
I love the VQ. It's a great engine in almost any type of vehicle. One correction- You said that the 300zx had a VQ engine, which I don't believe it ever did. The Z31 and Z32 had VG30 variants.
Great list, very interesting! I am somewhat surprised that Honda's C series ended up in the S tier considering all the head gasket problems the C32 and C35 had in the 2nd gen Legend and RL. It's a common enough problem that "BHG" is a very well known acronym in the Legend/RL community for "blown head gasket". But other than that, they are very good engines and way ahead of their time, especially the C30 in the NSX. My 1990 Legend has the C27A1 and it's not the fastest, but it is very smooth and quiet with a nice torque curve and is still in excellent shape 34 years later with 180-185 PSI compression across all 6 cylinders (new engine is 171 according to the service manual). Not sure of the mileage because the odometer broke at 176K 20+ years ago, so it's definitely up there by now!
My 3vze in my 95 pickup actually went past 300k miles with no major problems except for oil leaks, never overheated never blew a head gasket. Just recently I didn’t have enough oil in it and was driving on the beach pushing it and it spun a rod bearing
@@elnyoutube123 they're slowly making progress, auto city imports just released a turbo kit for 6g75. Add some rpw rods and cams with the rre headers and now ur making hella power
Technically, a change needs to be made to the vehicle list in the GR category. Its used in the 03-24 4Runner. Least for the 1GR (4.0). The 3rd gens (3.5) ended production in 02.
The old J series without VCM are absolutely beasts. In particular, the J32a3 and J35a8 in 3rd gen Acura TL are so fun to rev out, with only SOHC design compared with toyota and nissan.
Something to note, there were 2 variants of the 3VZ engine: the 3VZ-E, which is the infamous boat anchor found in late 80s-early 90s Toyota trucks; and the 3VZ-FE, which saw life in FWD applications, such as the early 90s 3rd gen Camry. The latter is a far better engine, but is not really compatible with its longitudinally-mounted sister.
The VE, maxima guys know about that engine. The VE30DE, should be look at like a VG30DE. It is a step in-between the DOHC VQ30DE and the OHC VG30E. Nissan wanted to put the VG30DE into the Maxima however the DOHC VG heads from the 300ZX and J30 were too big for the space they had to work with so they designed heads specially for the maxima SE trim, the VG30E made 160hp and 180lb/ft. Actually Nissan should be praised for this, instead of just redesigning the hood with a bulge to get the heads to fit, they redesigned the head, partially why Nissan was broke with this engineering approach but still. it was known for its playful revving nature and its wide powerband. It was actually pretty top end happy. It was a very reliable engine the only real issue was the VTC solenoids: 90s cam timing. The VQ took over being it was cheaper to manufacture, lighter and made the same horsepower more torque without the aid of cam timing. Something interesting to read regarding that car. Look at Car and Driver's review of the 2004 TSX and what they said about that car and its relation to this Maxima.
@@running2redline not sure if they still make them but someone was making conversion kits for them. They absolutely fit and they're still a light engine so it's a perfect swap
@@running2redline not sure if they still make them but someone was making conversion kits for them. They absolutely fit and they're still a light engine so it's a perfect swap!
@@running2redline They'll fit. Some swaps have been done. Oil pump pickup has to be modified, intake has to be modified or ITB, an adapter for trans has to be made. Mounts too I think. Way cheaper than Rocketeer with a Duratech. CrapEngineering I believe was the name of the company trying to sell some sort of kit. KLDE with a turbo or KLZE for NA. Best sounding MX-5 ever, watch the whole thing th-cam.com/video/KRe9gG5aHq0/w-d-xo.html
The VE is the evolution of the VG that led to the VQ. Ive owned 2 VQs that ran fine over 300K miles, considering I abuse my 4x4s I was pretty impressed by it, ive also had a 4.0 GR toyota V6 that was also dead reliable but the VQ 4.0 had much more power and felt more athletic in the heavier Xterra (due to modifications) vs the 4.0 GR in 4runner
Honda C were wildly different. Most were 60°, but the ka7-ka9 Legends had sohc 90° longitudally mounted v6s. A version of this engine with dohc and vtec was shown in a future Legend concept and used in the Super GT NSX. One of the most beautifully designed engines ever imho.
Great video. I think you should really talk to AMD from the car care nut, he would praise the 5VZ and 3MZ more than the 2GR. I really think you should talk to more master technicians of each brand giving their knowledge and input of engine of the brand they work for.
The 3vze was the only engine that had head gasket issues out of the VZ's and was only with the 4runner. The reason it had issues with head gaskets had more to do with crossover pipe design than actual engine design as many other vehicles before it worked just fine with it. the 5vzfe had none of those issues as they fixed the heat buildup issue with better cooling of the heads. The VZ can also handle quite a bit of power and very reliably. This is especially the case with the 5vzfe that can handle well over 600k with a supercharger that came optioned through TRD. Even the hated 3vze can handle well above 300k miles, and most of the examples of the 3vze out there are already well past that. It deserves B teir, especially with the supercharged options, maybe even A tier and bump vq down a peg. The 5vzfe sounds good with an exhaust too.
Good Video as always! But I am astonished that no one brought up that the early v35a had serious issues on bearings, these are very well documented as the thundra forum has an entire Post keep tracks of all the engine failures. High C tier for me.
Also you forgot to bring up the Mazda k with the supercharger is the Miller cycle engine, Which is highly advanced at the time and could be viewed as the predecessor to the skyactiv-x technology. Regardless whether it delivers or not, it is still innovative and quirky.
The vg is incredibly underrated, and loves to eat boost. If it weren't for the unfortunate reputation of the detts id say it deserves a higher spot for how simple and reliable the single cams are. Which is why i put one in my ranger lol, but i get it i suppose.
And like, the single cam vg was Japan's FIRST major v6, and what a great one to start with. Mines well over 200k, rebuilt and runs like it's new. And I can't wait to give it boost.
@@snoofayy6150 parts availability isn't the worst, and theres a community with a few prominent members that have quality products to modernize them, but yeah, they do absolutely need to be fully gone through to meet modern power and reliability standards, i personally haven't had any major reliability issues, but like, it's a non sealed ECU, and the ones in the z31s are approaching 40 if they aren't already. Problems are expected eventually, but I have yet to have them.
Great video, I also wanted to know what was up with the VE engine as well. After a little research the only thing I could find was that the VG's heads etc made it too big to fit well in the FWD setup and thus they build the VE which is suppose to be very similar to a VG with just smaller heads..Also I found something about how they did the valves to make it smaller that wasnt optimal or something but dont quote me on that...
You missed the Chrysler/Mitsubishi 3L V6. It was used in most minivans, and could be optioned in the k car derivatives during the late 80’s / early 90’s. My understanding is it was a 6G7 with sohc heads.
日本人として興味深い動画でした。ありがとう。VEエンジンは、VGエンジンの横置型で発展させる予定が、VQエンジンが優れていたため、開発中止にしてもよかったエンジンでしたが、既にVEエンジン用の製造工場が完成していたので、仕方なく製造するしかなかったという、消極的な選択だったと聞いたことがあります。（翻訳ですみません This was an interesting video. thank you. From Japan. The VE engine was planned to be developed as a horizontally mounted version of the VG engine, but the VQ engine was so superior that development could have been canceled, but since the manufacturing plant for the VE engine had already been completed, they had no choice but to manufacture it. I have heard that it was a passive choice that they had no choice but to make
The VE30 exists because when Nissan designed the J30 Maxima, they realized that the vg30de wouldn't fit under the very low hood, so they had to completely redesign the heads and to avoid confusion they just gave it a completely new designation. This is also why it was a few years before the J30 Maxima got a 24 valve variant.
6G75 mivec all motor are used in puerto rico and US as drag engines, nowadays they can produce 900-1000 hp all motor with nitromethane and modifications in the engine, heads on these engines flows really well more than those more popular v6 engines, and the fastest all motor v6 drag car in the world right now is a mitsubishi mirage with a 6G75 mivec.
Mitsubishi made a 3.0 v6 for Chrysler.Was put in 1980s and 1990s era Chrysler minivans and some car.This one had valve guide problems in the cylinder heads
What about the Isuzu 6V engines? I don’t have any first hand experience with them but I know some had direct injection and dohc, made pretty good power for their size and era. Also, do the Ford/Yamaha Taurus SHO engines count?
YEEEESSSS YOU DID IIIIITTT! Edit: though I wouldn't really wouldn't put VQs on the same level as the 2GR. The VQs have pretty significant oil consumption issues that can only be solved by (if memory serves) upgraded piston rings
It's mainly Vq35De that have that issue, any Vq37vhr owners I've talked to (myself included) havnt really dealt with it, at least as bad as the older gen VQ have.
I am actually thinking of doing Korean lists, I’ll have to take a look at what’s there to make a final decision, but I don’t want to leave them out. I appreciate the support and I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos!
Pretty much agree across the board but If we are talking about the Nissan VR38 than S tier all day, if we are talking about the VR30 than it’s a B tier engine. Great numbers on paper and tune ability but it has reliability issues.
I'm assuming the VE vs VG is more based on it's application. Much like with the LS engine. the LS4 was 13mm shorter front to rear because it was used in transverse-mounting locations, so I'm wondering if Nissan did something similar, since the Maxima was FWD with a transverse-mounted engine rather than RWD with a longitudinal engine.
Any chance to make a top list of Italian engines? I heard of Busso engines being quite good. Although, maybe that's the only reliable Italian engine...)))
Nothing wrong in higher ranking for the Toyota GR. But in the face of the legendary C series and the VQ for the latter two achievements I wouldn’t be ranking GR equally.
well in extreme applications like drag racing, the fastest v6 all motor (nitromethane category) is the 6G75 mivec, even the toyota 2gr,1gr and honda J35 can't come close to it 😅😅
I can’t wait till he does Japanese I4s it’s gonna be like 2 hours long lmao
3/4 of the list will be Honda engines lol
Honda and Toyota basically, maybe Mazda with the fs-de or whatever it's called
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@@marceltapiesrubio5162lol I started as a Honda fanboy and never thought of Toyota engines besides the 2j and then I bought a Lexus is350 and have fell in love with Toyotas engines and recently found out what the 2zz was and couldn’t believe Toyota made such a bad ass engine comparable to the mighty K series
Pretty much every honda 4cyl ever made should be on that s tier list
Fun fact: the 04-07 Saturn Vue can be optioned with a J35A3 V6
The most reliable Saturn
Saturn was underrated
Why didn’t you do asian so we can have hyundai and kia
@@chrislewis5069garbage
I had 2 saturn a 1997 SC2 coupe and 2001 SL1. Both bought used. Both made it over 200,000k. One was killed by a deer doing 75 on the highway and the other I sold for 1200 bucks with 201,000 miles 😅 and it's still running to this day. I know the guy I sold it to. 😅
C series is a KILLER engine and highly underrated. Acura Legends are a great example of a “normal” car with the C series. They’re insanely reliable, smooth and sound amazing
Glad I was able to give it some recognition, totally slept on!
Unfortunately the RL is best known as a benchwarmer for its rwd cousins, and by the time it got shawd acura was meaningless.
That first gen was beautiful, but honda was overly stubborn not making rwd or v8 cars, and really never spent that much money on acura comparatively.
The price jump of used legends says it's not underrated anymore
The 1st gen Legend's C25/C27 is insanely reliable and has no known issues other than lifters getting sludged up and ticking if the oil isn't changed on time, but the 2nd gen Legend's C32 unfortunately quickly became notorious for blowing head gaskets for no apparent reason, which is a real shame because there's no other reason a manual transmission 2nd gen Legend couldn't run virtually forever with no major failures. I think we would see a lot more 2nd gen Legends still on the road if they didn't have that head gasket problem.
@@averyalexander2303 well there is a known issue that causes that, overheating on top of a clogged EGR tube. If you are diligent in cleaning the EGR every 100k miles, you’ll never have an issue with the headgasket. My beater ‘94 Legend is at 374k on the original headgaskets
2GR-FE IS THE GOAT
Reliable
Fuel efficient
Can make serious power NA
When boosted
can handle 600-700whp with just fuel system
And you can find it everywhere for cheap cheap price
its a masterpiece
My mates one has the very common death rattle on start up and has been quoted $2,500 to repair now his Camry is worthless
@@kingmarz3635 th-cam.com/video/LfsIsMP9dHQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Y1ixStHDS-UpjVGe
There is a filter for the vvt system
You need to clean it every 20k miles
Especially if you don’t change the oil in its time
Maybe if you clean it it will run better
Everyone knows that doesn’t fix it!
Terrible engine and you are just admitting it.
@@kingmarz3635
No maintenance = bad for the engine
Seriously You want me to educate you about this?
NO you’re the one that’s about to get schooled!
The 2GR issues have nothing to do with maintenance.
Bad water pumps, leaking timing cover both very common issues and both need engine out to fix and this is one of the hardest engines in history to ever work on 20-24hr jobs costing $2500
$1k to fix the leaking rear valve cover and don’t get me started on the very very common DEATH RATTLE that if not fixed will destroy the engine and these engines are very hard and expensive to get second hand and not to mention install cos everyone wants one to replace their broken ones because they’re all now in the DEATH RATTLE age.
The GR series V6 engines are the worse layout of any engine to ever come out of japan and shouldn’t have even made the list.
Never buy a vehicle with the toyota GR series engine especially if they’re over 200k km or 10 years age YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
20 years ago, I had a Ford Probe GT with first a KLDE, then a KLZE engine. Happy to see it get some recognition here.
Same my first ever car was the Mazda 323 astina with klze swap I upset a lot of Honda boys with their b and h swap lol the good old days.
I've owned tons of 626 and Probes over the years.
The only better option than the V6 was the 1.8t probe from days past....
The main problem with J-series engines was VCM, which caused oil burn and could be removed. If it wasn't for that, I think S-Tier would be warranted despite the lack of new technology
I own a used 2012 Accord (J35). It was at 134,000 miles. I've done 3+ hour regular and weekly road trips, put about 20k miles on the car, even drove hard, (in the hot summer and freezing winter) and yet I've needed to add oil to the car. Oil stayed full until oil change.
@@user-te8qh1gf3jI beat the shit out of my j30a4 in my manual accord engines healthy as could be
Acura tech here. The J-series is one of the best engine families ever. However, the VCM is not the only oil burning issue. The J37 variants used spray-on liners to reduce weight. The silicon-impregnated aluminum coating is very similar to nikasil, which was used in many German engines. They used a poor ring design that clogged up in the alusil blocks, resulting in excessive oil consumption. Only the 3.7 litre versions had this particular issue. I’ve owned 5 different vehicles with different iterations of the J. Easily my favorite engine to work on and own.
Easily S-tier level.
@@TheMadTube i have a j35z2 accord, would you reccomend getting a vcm disabler like s-vcm or vcmmuzzler to prevent excessive oil burning?
@@TheMadTubeI love my J37 in my TL. Getting it hot seems to have calmed the oil consumption problem but then it guzzles an incredible amount of fuel for a V6 sedan lmao.
I have a late 2018 Infiniti Q50 with the VR30DDTT, it's not a Red Sport but I have had it tuned so that when I put the car into PERSONAL mode it changes the profile to that of a Stock Q50 Red Sport on Sport+ mode, it cost a few hundred USD to have that done, was relatively simple in fact since its a stock map and there is minimal hardware difference between the RS and the Luxe models.
The VR30DDTT is FAST, even stock, its FAST and it's an absolute blast to drive. The early VR30DDTT's had issues with a "porous block" where your block would leak coolant into the engine thus making it drink "the forbidden milkshake" and needing a complete core replacement which was done at Infiniti's cost. There is also another issue with early VR30DDTT engines where the oil dipstick was too short and people were not putting in enough oil for it causing engine failures, that has since been corrected and if you own an early model they do make a replacement dipstick as well.
The final "issue" with the VR30DDTT are that it does require 3,000 - 5,000 mile oil changes, even with the best synthetic oil's, the engine is VERY TIGHT TOLERANCED and those twin turbos will cook the hell out of that oil, thermal breakdown happens quickly in these high performance engines, CHANGE YOUR OIL REGULARALY, NO EXCEPTIONS!. It's not really an issue but people tend to push their oil changes to 10K -15K on the regular and they shouldn't with this car.
I know a few people locally that have Q50's/Q60's that are pushing 800 hp with just bolt on's and the stock internals hold it easily, it's most common rival is actually the BMW B58 which is a straight six.
Not boltons. You need z1 turbos to push 750 whp on stock internals if you keep the torque below 600lbft. Very impressive for an engine with 3 liter and no forged rods nor pistons. A b58 can get 800whp on stock internals, but keep in mind it has forged con rods and crankshaft. Both amazing engines
I have 101k miles on my stock '16 Q50 Redsport and the VR30DDTT is a great motor that fills up my checklist. I have no problems at all. Did basic maintenance throughout most of my ownership and it hasn't failed.
I also own an early gen '08 G37 coupe with the 5AT. The VQ37VHR is also great.
I haven't kept up with cars recently, but for my next car I want something that can make good gains for reasonable sums (currently driving an NA 2011 lexus is350). Is my best option a b58 or vr30 car? What the gt2 stinger? 5.0 coyote? Civic type R?
the VR38 needs to be in an SS tier by itself. I bought a GTR in october and had never driven one. 1 E-85 FF kit later... This car is scary. It is actually insane how beastly this engine is for a V6. The sound, the torque. Japanese National Treasure.
Completely agree with the Toyota GR engine in S tier. I have the 3.5 2GR-FSE in my '13 Lexus GS and it's just incredible. Black sheep is the 2.5 though with massive carbon buildup issues.
I’ve heard of the carbon buildup problems, got a friend with one that does the seafoam trick and between that and oil changes he’s at 230k miles no major issues.
No complaints about the GR in my is250. 200,000 miles and still going strong!
6A13TT is a solid engine for its time. A mate of mine had a Legnum VR-4 back in the early 00’s and we thrashed the tits off it and it handled it no problem. It had AYC like an Evo of the era and was a generally nice car to drive.
Very cool cars, it’s a shame you don’t see them anymore.
I've had a 1991 Mazda Xedos 6 with the K-Series 2.0 V6. Though it had 145 bhp, it was quite fast and nimble being very light (circa 1200kg), and the engine was a screamer, though at the end of its life it used about as much oil as a two-stroke.
i take offense to the VZ placement lmao. you're 100% right on the 3VZ and the head gasket issues, but the 5VZ was developed to counter the issues of its predecessor. Different heads and coolant passages allowed it to be a significantly more reliable powertrain with adding a little bit more power. its all jest but i think, yes my opinion, the VZ engine family is one of the best V6 families to have been created in Japan.
Totally fair, that’s another engine that would regularly be a good bit higher. There’s literally not a bad engine on this list, which amazed me as a researched. I would still own a VZ any day.
Also 5 relatively widely used engines in millions of cars in many applications. Still generally seen as pretty reliable.
Yeah the 3VZ and 5VZ FE almost needed to be seperated
A good thing to note - the Honda J series engines only ever had oil consumption issues on VCM motors. Anything older (example- J32a2, j35a3) or from a manual version of the later v6 accords never had an issue at all. Those non VCM engines are unkillable with nothing but oil changes and a belt every 100k (easy work). VCM engines are totallt saveable as well with a cheap "VCM muzzler" (basically a secondary coolant temp sensor trick device) that disables the vcm without a check engine light.
Great points. Some of the J series also had issues with spark plugs popping out very rarely, but that's about it as far as I know. My friend has a 2014 Odyssey with the J35Z8 and it's still very solid with no noticeable oil consumption at about 140K miles. The transmission has been junk since he bought it last year with just under 100K, but a failing V6 automatic transmission is no surprise to anyone who knows about Hondas.
I have a 2013 6mt Tl, with the J37. Such a fun N/A motor but definitely has oil consumption issues. Would be interested to do more research into this "VCM muzzler" to see how it works to prevent the oil consumption. My J37 still going strong with 130k miles
@@mateenmazloom359 J37s in particular had some issues also due to the dual VTEC, they would chew through cams. While extremely cool what they achieved with a single camshaft on those engines, they definitely saw wear through abuse.
@@mateenmazloom359 What happens is the rings on the deactivated cylinders get stuck from carbon buildup from not having the heat and pressure of combustion. Once the rings get stuck in their grooves, they sometimes damage themselves and the cylinder walls.
You can try some type of VCM muzzler and hope for a long term decrease in oil consumption along with regular oil changes using a good oil, but don't expect a miracle. The idea is to get the muzzler BEFORE problems start. It's much more effective as a preventative than a repair.
@@averyalexander2303The J37 suffers from oil consumption due to the cylinder wall material and piston ring design. I don’t believe they have VCM at all.
I was curious where you would rank the GR series engines. I bought a used IS 350 with the 2GR FSE engine and I cannot rave enough how good this engine is. Powerful, efficient, smooth, insanely reliable. I've got 185k on the clock and it doesn't burn oil at all and runs like new. I honestly don't know when this engine will ever die lol.
Death rattle?
It’s not a good engine and 185k is nothing
@@kingmarz3635mine developed the rattle at 140k ish.. now at 290k and STILL rattling...
VQ, VR are the most powerful and the early VQ30 engines were very smooth. The J series as a whole is super smooth and refined as an engine. They are my favorite Japanese V6s
Love these videos, wish they'd get the attention they deserve. My favorite V6 has to be the VR, it sounds so good for a turbo V6
I appreciate the kind words and support, the VR is a beast and that sound is so smooth
i’ll add something for the vq
it’s really cool how many cars this engine comes in. there are infiniti suvs that have it, those come fwd… some come awd. infiniti awd systems are really easy to crack. pull a fuse, weld the diff and you have a 350z hatch
I own a 6G75 Galant Ralliart. 258hp258tq. midsize car. But 0-60 in 6.5. And I’ve beaten the snot out the car and she wants more.
Have the Australian version , extremely reliable.
@@mvnorsel6354 only issue I have it rust. I live in rust belt in Canada and I’m trying my best to keep her alive
ive got an 06 eclipse gt and i love the 6g75m, really wish people did more with these motors. pretty easy to get 300+ hp out of if you remove the anemic exhaust on them. and the bottom end can handle about 500hp before needing to replace the rods
@@JayRoboFox there’s a supercharging kit you can get from Australia,
that engine is also fun to mod, shockingly easy to pull more power out of, but the part market is absolutely tiny
As an owner of an '04 Infinity G35 with the VQ I was wondering why this tier list didn't already exist on the channel. Properly placed in the S tier as it should be. thanks
This one has been requested for awhile, had to make it a priority and got it knocked out. Glad you enjoyed the video, and I couldn’t put the VQ anywhere else it’s just too good!
It's slightly concerning how much I love these videos and how quick I click on them.
I’ll keep them coming then lol, I appreciate the support and am glad you’re liking them!
My son in the states has a 2013 Xterra with the 4.0 liter VQ. It's his daily, I think he said he's at the 380k mark now. :)
I've owned 2 Toyotas with the VZ. The 3 VZ did pop a head gasket right on time at 100K Miles. The 5VZ is in a T100 and has the dealer installed TRD supercharger. I love it. It's non interference, built like a stone axe and hasn't given a lick of trouble in 25 years. I also used to have a Chrysler Sebring that had what I think was the Mitsubishi 2.5 6g. It was another trouble free engine. My only complaint is the rear spark plugs were hard to get to.
Long live the J35 Accord G8
I love the VQ. It's a great engine in almost any type of vehicle. One correction- You said that the 300zx had a VQ engine, which I don't believe it ever did. The Z31 and Z32 had VG30 variants.
Great list, very interesting! I am somewhat surprised that Honda's C series ended up in the S tier considering all the head gasket problems the C32 and C35 had in the 2nd gen Legend and RL. It's a common enough problem that "BHG" is a very well known acronym in the Legend/RL community for "blown head gasket". But other than that, they are very good engines and way ahead of their time, especially the C30 in the NSX.
My 1990 Legend has the C27A1 and it's not the fastest, but it is very smooth and quiet with a nice torque curve and is still in excellent shape 34 years later with 180-185 PSI compression across all 6 cylinders (new engine is 171 according to the service manual). Not sure of the mileage because the odometer broke at 176K 20+ years ago, so it's definitely up there by now!
Sounds like your car is gonna run forever, that’s great compression. I’m glad you liked the video!
Something to note about the Toyota GR v6 is the 4GR (2.5L) found in is250 was very prone to carbon build up.
My 3vze in my 95 pickup actually went past 300k miles with no major problems except for oil leaks, never overheated never blew a head gasket. Just recently I didn’t have enough oil in it and was driving on the beach pushing it and it spun a rod bearing
I feel like Mitsubishi's v6s are so slept on
You know mitsubishis v6's are slept on
My 6g75 still running at 250k😎
I feel like the V6 in general is slept on
Except the 6B3
@@elnyoutube123 they're slowly making progress, auto city imports just released a turbo kit for 6g75. Add some rpw rods and cams with the rre headers and now ur making hella power
Nissan just makes the best V6’s in Japan.
It's here!!
edit: VQ Boys wya 💪😎 🎺🎺
Technically, a change needs to be made to the vehicle list in the GR category. Its used in the 03-24 4Runner. Least for the 1GR (4.0). The 3rd gens (3.5) ended production in 02.
The old J series without VCM are absolutely beasts. In particular, the J32a3 and J35a8 in 3rd gen Acura TL are so fun to rev out, with only SOHC design compared with toyota and nissan.
Something to note, there were 2 variants of the 3VZ engine: the 3VZ-E, which is the infamous boat anchor found in late 80s-early 90s Toyota trucks; and the 3VZ-FE, which saw life in FWD applications, such as the early 90s 3rd gen Camry. The latter is a far better engine, but is not really compatible with its longitudinally-mounted sister.
The VE, maxima guys know about that engine. The VE30DE, should be look at like a VG30DE. It is a step in-between the DOHC VQ30DE and the OHC VG30E. Nissan wanted to put the VG30DE into the Maxima however the DOHC VG heads from the 300ZX and J30 were too big for the space they had to work with so they designed heads specially for the maxima SE trim, the VG30E made 160hp and 180lb/ft. Actually Nissan should be praised for this, instead of just redesigning the hood with a bulge to get the heads to fit, they redesigned the head, partially why Nissan was broke with this engineering approach but still. it was known for its playful revving nature and its wide powerband. It was actually pretty top end happy. It was a very reliable engine the only real issue was the VTC solenoids: 90s cam timing. The VQ took over being it was cheaper to manufacture, lighter and made the same horsepower more torque without the aid of cam timing.
Something interesting to read regarding that car. Look at Car and Driver's review of the 2004 TSX and what they said about that car and its relation to this Maxima.
I’ll check that’s review out, this is all super interesting info and clears up some confusion. Thanks for putting this out there!
The Mazda K series is super underrated! they can take decent boost and are capable of 8k rpm+. Check out suicide mx3 he just made 650hp out of a KL!
Starting to wonder if one would fit in my Miata…
@@running2redline not sure if they still make them but someone was making conversion kits for them. They absolutely fit and they're still a light engine so it's a perfect swap
@@running2redline not sure if they still make them but someone was making conversion kits for them. They absolutely fit and they're still a light engine so it's a perfect swap!
@@running2redline They'll fit. Some swaps have been done. Oil pump pickup has to be modified, intake has to be modified or ITB, an adapter for trans has to be made. Mounts too I think. Way cheaper than Rocketeer with a Duratech. CrapEngineering I believe was the name of the company trying to sell some sort of kit. KLDE with a turbo or KLZE for NA. Best sounding MX-5 ever, watch the whole thing th-cam.com/video/KRe9gG5aHq0/w-d-xo.html
@@running2redline go J series. they fit better and easier to find parts for
Will always love the VQ and VR engines. VQ maxima with 414k miles still going. Love the fact that the new pathfinder has a VQ35.
I have a 2018 Frontier Desert Runner and the VQ40de under the hood runs GREAT!
fun fact. the nissan quest (minivan) also had the vq in it. they really put it in everything
The VE is the evolution of the VG that led to the VQ. Ive owned 2 VQs that ran fine over 300K miles, considering I abuse my 4x4s I was pretty impressed by it, ive also had a 4.0 GR toyota V6 that was also dead reliable but the VQ 4.0 had much more power and felt more athletic in the heavier Xterra (due to modifications) vs the 4.0 GR in 4runner
Honda C were wildly different. Most were 60°, but the ka7-ka9 Legends had sohc 90° longitudally mounted v6s. A version of this engine with dohc and vtec was shown in a future Legend concept and used in the Super GT NSX. One of the most beautifully designed engines ever imho.
That Mazda KLZE will break everything around it lol. Had a Ford Probe. I replaced everything but the engine lol.
VQ40 most sleeped on imo
Makes less power than the 3.5
Great video. I think you should really talk to AMD from the car care nut, he would praise the 5VZ and 3MZ more than the 2GR. I really think you should talk to more master technicians of each brand giving their knowledge and input of engine of the brand they work for.
I’ve been waiting for this video for so long and I’m incredibly happy to finally see it. Thank you so much!!!
Really glad you’re liking them! I appreciate the continued support of the channel
The 3vze was the only engine that had head gasket issues out of the VZ's and was only with the 4runner. The reason it had issues with head gaskets had more to do with crossover pipe design than actual engine design as many other vehicles before it worked just fine with it. the 5vzfe had none of those issues as they fixed the heat buildup issue with better cooling of the heads. The VZ can also handle quite a bit of power and very reliably. This is especially the case with the 5vzfe that can handle well over 600k with a supercharger that came optioned through TRD. Even the hated 3vze can handle well above 300k miles, and most of the examples of the 3vze out there are already well past that. It deserves B teir, especially with the supercharged options, maybe even A tier and bump vq down a peg. The 5vzfe sounds good with an exhaust too.
Slight error, 300zx never had the VQ motor, only VG.
else good watch, been waiting for this video
Thank you, must’ve gotten my notes crossed up. Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching
Do you know which cars have a VQ 3 liters without variable valve timing?
@@xXZ31t6esTXx y33/34 cedrick/gloria with the 30DET?
@@xXZ31t6esTXx the 95-99 Maximas had the VQ30DE “plain” 1st gen VQ 3.0 liter engines without variable valve timing.
Good Video as always! But I am astonished that no one brought up that the early v35a had serious issues on bearings, these are very well documented as the thundra forum has an entire Post keep tracks of all the engine failures. High C tier for me.
Also in your voiceover on vq, you said 300zx gained popularity using the vq, But the z32/z31 had the vgs in their production form, not vqs
Also you forgot to bring up the Mazda k with the supercharger is the Miller cycle engine, Which is highly advanced at the time and could be viewed as the predecessor to the skyactiv-x technology. Regardless whether it delivers or not, it is still innovative and quirky.
The vg is incredibly underrated, and loves to eat boost. If it weren't for the unfortunate reputation of the detts id say it deserves a higher spot for how simple and reliable the single cams are. Which is why i put one in my ranger lol, but i get it i suppose.
And like, the single cam vg was Japan's FIRST major v6, and what a great one to start with. Mines well over 200k, rebuilt and runs like it's new. And I can't wait to give it boost.
VGs are tough! All the hard parts are pretty overbuilt but its just all the old seals and sensors that cause headaches in the year we're living in
@@snoofayy6150 parts availability isn't the worst, and theres a community with a few prominent members that have quality products to modernize them, but yeah, they do absolutely need to be fully gone through to meet modern power and reliability standards, i personally haven't had any major reliability issues, but like, it's a non sealed ECU, and the ones in the z31s are approaching 40 if they aren't already. Problems are expected eventually, but I have yet to have them.
Great video, I also wanted to know what was up with the VE engine as well. After a little research the only thing I could find was that the VG's heads etc made it too big to fit well in the FWD setup and thus they build the VE which is suppose to be very similar to a VG with just smaller heads..Also I found something about how they did the valves to make it smaller that wasnt optimal or something but dont quote me on that...
You missed the Chrysler/Mitsubishi 3L V6. It was used in most minivans, and could be optioned in the k car derivatives during the late 80’s / early 90’s.
My understanding is it was a 6G7 with sohc heads.
that would be the sohc 12v 6g72, there were also sohc 24v and dohc 24v (3000gt, debonair, stealth) versions
My 07 Acura TL with a J32 just crossed 300k miles. Only problem with the car being the window is cracked and power steering works when it wants to.
Would love to see you make a tier list of boxer engines! Or maybe 3 cylinders? Either would be great:)
I’ll get to both, got them down on my list!
yeah say what u want about some vq owners and their trumpet sound but, the vq is one of the best and one of the most durable v6's ever
日本人として興味深い動画でした。ありがとう。VEエンジンは、VGエンジンの横置型で発展させる予定が、VQエンジンが優れていたため、開発中止にしてもよかったエンジンでしたが、既にVEエンジン用の製造工場が完成していたので、仕方なく製造するしかなかったという、消極的な選択だったと聞いたことがあります。（翻訳ですみません This was an interesting video. thank you. From Japan.
The VE engine was planned to be developed as a horizontally mounted version of the VG engine, but the VQ engine was so superior that development could have been canceled, but since the manufacturing plant for the VE engine had already been completed, they had no choice but to manufacture it. I have heard that it was a passive choice that they had no choice but to make
4:52 AND MY GOD IS IT MASSIVE and huge pain to work on. I want a 300zx but that engine... it scares me
Didn’t know that, never fun to deal with though
get one while you can. if you buy a properly maintained one there's nothing to be worried about. mine is a daily
My 09 Accord V6 still runs like new with 309k on the clock only thing I’ve done is a timing belt and regular oil changes and spark plugs
Hahaha yeah i was just looking for this video when i discovered your channel last night
Read your mind
The VE30 exists because when Nissan designed the J30 Maxima, they realized that the vg30de wouldn't fit under the very low hood, so they had to completely redesign the heads and to avoid confusion they just gave it a completely new designation. This is also why it was a few years before the J30 Maxima got a 24 valve variant.
Glad you answered this, thanks. That makes a lot of sense but seems like there had to have been a better solution. Still really interesting
6G75 mivec all motor are used in puerto rico and US as drag engines, nowadays they can produce 900-1000 hp all motor with nitromethane and modifications in the engine, heads on these engines flows really well more than those more popular v6 engines, and the fastest all motor v6 drag car in the world right now is a mitsubishi mirage with a 6G75 mivec.
The toyota mz 3.3 was a work horse. My 05 camry had one and I wish I took better care of it
Mitsubishi made a 3.0 v6 for Chrysler.Was put in 1980s and 1990s era Chrysler minivans and some car.This one had valve guide problems in the cylinder heads
The 2gr had a massive recall for the camshaft bolts backing out causing potential catastrophic failure just thought I’d mention!!
I have the Toyota 4.0L V6 engine, and it's been reliable. It's a great engine.
the 96-02 Prado 90 also has the option for the 5VZ engine, I definitely am not alone saying that it is leagues ahead of any other VZ engine
2GR-FE goes hard imo, mines got a 110k and still starts like new
12:33 the supercharged mazda V6 ran a miller cycle to help with emissions and got really good mileage
That’s really interesting, thanks for sharing that!
i used to have a j32a3 (04 acura tl) and man it was so great. i'd still have it if the rear main seal didn't go bad.
Would love to see the euro V6 line up. Maybe even a comparison with Japanese V6 vs American V6. Personally I love the Busso from Alfa Romeo.
Need a 4cylinder tier list please
Ugh! Totally forgot to subscribe upon watching your previous tier list a few days ago 🤦♀️
I miss my 370z with its VQ37. Reliable, easy to maintain, and great power for the application.
The VQ was also used in the 2011-2021 Nissan NV1500 cargo can it was a VQ40DE . Just know it used to push that big dinosaur van around just fine 🤣
What about the Isuzu 6V engines? I don’t have any first hand experience with them but I know some had direct injection and dohc, made pretty good power for their size and era. Also, do the Ford/Yamaha Taurus SHO engines count?
YEEEESSSS YOU DID IIIIITTT!
Edit: though I wouldn't really wouldn't put VQs on the same level as the 2GR. The VQs have pretty significant oil consumption issues that can only be solved by (if memory serves) upgraded piston rings
It's mainly Vq35De that have that issue, any Vq37vhr owners I've talked to (myself included) havnt really dealt with it, at least as bad as the older gen VQ have.
The 5vzfe doesn’t have any failures. Probably one of if not the best v6 from Toyota. Mines almost at 300k miles and I’ve put an alternator on it….
Single cam VG30E at 217K miles still gets the car where it needs to go. My transmission on the other hand needs a replacement lol
Another great video
Much appreciated
J35 in my 2008 accord. 239’000 miles and still going
any chance you can make a video of the best 4 cylinder turbo or non turbo? that’ll be cool to watch!
What's the percentage of main bearing failures on V35A engines?
I’m not sure but I can’t imagine it’s super common, if anyone here is reading this and knows throw it up
JDM I4s next! Btw, love these lists you're doing. I'd ask for Korean lists but...yeah there ain't much outside of the lambda's and taus
I am actually thinking of doing Korean lists, I’ll have to take a look at what’s there to make a final decision, but I don’t want to leave them out. I appreciate the support and I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos!
my j35 runs so good rlly underrated engine
Pretty much agree across the board but If we are talking about the Nissan VR38 than S tier all day, if we are talking about the VR30 than it’s a B tier engine.
Great numbers on paper and tune ability but it has reliability issues.
Ah man the 3vz bringing down the VZ's in general is such a bummer. IMO the 5VZ-FE and 3VZ-FE deserve better.
I'm assuming the VE vs VG is more based on it's application. Much like with the LS engine. the LS4 was 13mm shorter front to rear because it was used in transverse-mounting locations, so I'm wondering if Nissan did something similar, since the Maxima was FWD with a transverse-mounted engine rather than RWD with a longitudinal engine.
Do a japanese 4 cylinder tier list.. thatd be a hell of a video haha
Euro i4 ranking? Would like to see the B235R get some love
Gotta say something about the Volvo Redblock. It's a little low on power but they're more invincible than a self-insert character with plot armor.
VQ35HR is what I got in my 350z. I haven't had any problems with it at all and it's at 208k miles, and I still whoop Chargers and Challengers. 😂
Love these videos!! Keep em' coming :D
Will do, I’m glad you’re liking them!
The vq is also within the q50/70 and M35/37
J series Hondas feel so great to drive!!
rlly hope u make a german I4 list soon 🙏
I always will love the Toyota 1MZ-FE V6.
Any chance to make a top list of Italian engines?
I heard of Busso engines being quite good. Although, maybe that's the only reliable Italian engine...)))
I’ll do it, once I’m through the big three automotive manufacturing countries I have to get to Korean, Italian, UK, and others
Nothing wrong in higher ranking for the Toyota GR. But in the face of the legendary C series and the VQ for the latter two achievements I wouldn’t be ranking GR equally.
K series was in the 2nd gen Ford Probe!
Drove a 7th gen V6 Accord till 300k kms. Shit was unkillable AF 💪🏿
6g7 got robbed that thing is killer in the pajero and invincible
That’s completely fair
@@running2redline 😡🤝😇
well in extreme applications like drag racing, the fastest v6 all motor (nitromethane category) is the 6G75 mivec, even the toyota 2gr,1gr and honda J35 can't come close to it 😅😅
Need tier list on i4 and v4 engines. PLEASE