RONNIE RADKE GOES OFF ON METAL BOOMERS!

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  • Ronnie Radke of Falling In Reverse responds to Eddie Trunk and Sebastian Bach of Skid Row about Falling In Reverse's laptops. Is Ronnie Radke right? Or are Eddie Trunk and Sebastian Bach right? Who the hell is Eddie Trunk and why does anybody care what he thinks?
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  • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
    @FinnMckentyPRMBA  ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Come hang out on Twitch! www.twitch.tv/finnmckenty

    • @cynicald380
      @cynicald380 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Later 😆

    • @chadxvii
      @chadxvii ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stop making fun of my pre-But Rock
      Jackal are the truth lol

    • @deductivereasoning4257
      @deductivereasoning4257 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw his old band using tracks around 10 years ago. This means laptops have been staples. This means, having a backup laptop is critical. Seriously, they had to cancel shows because they don't have a 500 dollar backup laptop. No way they need a gaming type laptop to run whatever they are.
      Now, most local bands bring way over 500 dollars in backup equipment; just being a logico, not an emo...

    • @ronniepatterson2827
      @ronniepatterson2827 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LMFAO! You didnt know who Eddie Trunk was till around 6 months ago. Dude, just stop it already. One Donald Trump saying "you never hrd of the guy" is plenty! You like rock music & are over 30 for christ sakes!!! I promice you, theres zero street cred with "the kids" lol saying you never hrd of Mr Trunk till recently.

    • @godetonter4764
      @godetonter4764 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ronniepatterson2827 Finn Mc Kenty has a Satanic Brutal Death Metal band that uses 22 $4500 Laptops to make the sound more devastating and Heavy. He is pushing the boundaries of Extreme Metal way beyond mere human limitations

  • @thesafestledge7331
    @thesafestledge7331 ปีที่แล้ว +439

    Eddie Trunk has been throwing a fit for the past 20 years over the replacement guys in KISS wearing the old guys makeup. I’m genuinely surprised he’s even heard of a newer band lol

    • @PedroHenrique-mj1mn
      @PedroHenrique-mj1mn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yet he does not give a damn word on KISS for their use of playback. He is just shitting on FiR because it’s “a new band”. Fuck Eddie Trunk

    • @guysfieri8900
      @guysfieri8900 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      he also self inserts himself into every old kiss story saying "i was there"

    • @ogvelociraptor205
      @ogvelociraptor205 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Eddie Trunk smells like Coors Light and Beef Jerky

    • @bladempale1751
      @bladempale1751 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Eddie ( I was texting this musician last night) Trunk

    • @ogvelociraptor205
      @ogvelociraptor205 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Eddie Trunk is the definition of Metal Boomer

  • @rorybninetythree
    @rorybninetythree ปีที่แล้ว +306

    Finn I can't thank you enough for revealing that a chainsaw solo exists over a twelve bar blues progression

    • @peterpiper6362
      @peterpiper6362 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know about a chainsaw solo, but I do know that The Blackheart Procession used a saw to perform a solo. One of the most haunting tracks I have ever heard!

  • @superhydroyeast
    @superhydroyeast ปีที่แล้ว +86

    "Babe can we do prime Sebastian Bach roleplay tonight?"
    "Sure what wig are you gonna wear?"
    "...the wigs not for me"

  • @brett5569
    @brett5569 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Holy shit Ronnie got him too good with all those memes

  • @AleBresca
    @AleBresca ปีที่แล้ว +258

    The smile of pure joy on Finn's face during the chainsaw solo XD

    • @markwrenn5965
      @markwrenn5965 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wholesome content

    • @tylerhorton6747
      @tylerhorton6747 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ikr tbh tho it was awesome tho like in a so ridiculous that it's actually become art in some kinda of way

  • @kevinhibbard320
    @kevinhibbard320 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    That chainsaw solo is 100x better than I expected. It was oddly bluesy

    • @blairwos1382
      @blairwos1382 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Jackyl has lots of great tunes.Just fun ROCK AND ROLL!!!

    • @ShadowOfDeathPsalm23
      @ShadowOfDeathPsalm23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@blairwos1382 agreed I love jackyl and I'm 25.

    • @GordonSlamsay
      @GordonSlamsay ปีที่แล้ว +1

      not my cup of tea, but a chainsaw solo is dope as hell. pretty sure Exhumed also has a chainsaw player

    • @xaphan8581
      @xaphan8581 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShadowOfDeathPsalm23 brought dad and uncle use to listen to this exact song like over and over in our house that in every room there was a 4 to 5ft tall Jensen speaker.

  • @PhreakPhantom
    @PhreakPhantom ปีที่แล้ว +88

    The irony is:
    Eventually but surely, Ronnie will be a Sebastian Bach...

    • @LasTortugasAzules
      @LasTortugasAzules ปีที่แล้ว +8

      omg it's true

    • @amysmithakabipolar.teddybe6047
      @amysmithakabipolar.teddybe6047 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Never.
      He's a vampire.

    • @PunkintheV0id
      @PunkintheV0id ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@amysmithakabipolar.teddybe6047 GAHHAHAHAHHA WHY IS THIS SO FUNNY

    • @w8kdzradio113
      @w8kdzradio113 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      oh so he will be in a band that goes on without him, maybe that band Falling in Reverse would be better then

    • @BigOwl51
      @BigOwl51 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@w8kdzradio113 surely you can come up with a better roast than that. Is this really the best the metal community can do?

  • @zackreyna182
    @zackreyna182 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    These boomers do not understand what Ronnie is saying. He’s talking about tracks. Tracks for his bands synths, trap drums, etc. laptops are also needed for the lighting, timing, you name it. Old boomers are thinking he needs to lip sync and that is just not the case at all.

    • @C0unt_Zero
      @C0unt_Zero ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Yeah, exactly. Falling in reverse (and a lot of others) use modern tech to enhance the show, not to substitute it.

    • @PedroHenrique-mj1mn
      @PedroHenrique-mj1mn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yet Eddie Trunk does not shits on Judas Priest and Motley Crue for doing the same thing. And worse, he does not say a single word about KISS doing full PLAYBACKS/LIP SYNCING their shows. Fuck Eddie Trunk.

    • @LasTortugasAzules
      @LasTortugasAzules ปีที่แล้ว +42

      That's the disconnect that neither side of this war seems to understand. Ronnie is talking about backing tracks, and these old heads are talking about tracks that play the entire song so the band can just fake it. Neither side seems to realize they're just talking right past each other

    • @travisspaulding2222
      @travisspaulding2222 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      And most importantly, their IEM mix is on those laptops. They probably could have done a stripped down raw version of their songs, but then you have to ask 2 questions. Does the FIR audience want that? And how much would the preparation for that cut into their stage time because when it comes to festival gigs, what makes them go so smooth is the fact that the band has laptops with their settings on it, so basically, they plug in, do a line check and go. The quickest way to get up there, have everything ready, including lights monitor mix and everything is having everything setup in laptops.

    • @Chelaxim
      @Chelaxim ปีที่แล้ว +26

      The same Boomers in the early '80s thought that the the people and Depeche mode, the Human League and New Order didn't do anything besides the lead singer these people actually thought the synthesizer created the music itself.

  • @thelittleowl1
    @thelittleowl1 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Ronnie took a W. those memes had me dead.

  • @kokorolex
    @kokorolex ปีที่แล้ว +226

    Ronnie Radke needs to make a TH-cam show roasting people, he's got it down to a science.

    • @dynamicphotography_
      @dynamicphotography_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's interesting. It would get clicks no doubt.

    • @imjustsam1745
      @imjustsam1745 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I would subscribe in a heart beat.

    • @w8kdzradio113
      @w8kdzradio113 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He might as well, his band blows, and won't even be around in 20 years, someone needs to tell him that Emo music was gone by 2010 and no one wants to hear it anymore

    • @tinawillits8223
      @tinawillits8223 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's about the only talent he has Sebastian just doesn't have any more time for his games... because he's out there actually singing live no tapes no fakes....boo hoo milk spilled on my laptop I have to cancel the show what's next I forgot to charge it LOL his excuses as lame as he is

    • @cinder7258
      @cinder7258 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tinawillits8223 they got taken…

  • @codingtranquility
    @codingtranquility ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Imagine how you'd feel if you were going to see Falling In Reverse, but instead got a chainsaw solo

  • @donholbert7986
    @donholbert7986 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Falling In Reverse played Inkcarceration earlier this year. 3 or 4 times during their set, there were people who were injured and Ronnie actually would stop and make sure paramedics could get to them. No other band during Inkcarceration did that. Not a huge fan of Falling In Reverse, but I got respect for Ronnie for that

    • @PunkintheV0id
      @PunkintheV0id ปีที่แล้ว +3

      mhm.

    • @johnnydi2203
      @johnnydi2203 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Guess he learned a lesson after throwing a mic stand at someone.

    • @ML-tr1hz
      @ML-tr1hz ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@johnnydi2203 I mean, unironically yes, people can grow and change and learn their lesson and become a good person.

    • @jynxycats
      @jynxycats ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe no one else got injured? A lot of bands do this, it's not really a high bar to set lol

    • @donholbert7986
      @donholbert7986 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jynxycats No, there was someone injured like every other band. Saw a dude get nailed right in the face with one of those hard plastic beer bottles from the front of the crowd and Saint Asonia just kept on playing

  • @brennanc4321
    @brennanc4321 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    The chainsaw solo wasn't even the worst part of the song.

    • @w8kdzradio113
      @w8kdzradio113 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      no it wasn't, I guess that was Jackyl's one hit song, showed how stupid people were in those days

    • @dan82500
      @dan82500 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      You don't get wordplay like "I ain't jacked my lumber baby, since my chain saw you!" From ordinary bands!!!

    • @EraVulgarity
      @EraVulgarity ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Arguably the coolest part of their entire career

    • @MadaraUchiha-ot4om
      @MadaraUchiha-ot4om ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣⚰

    • @dmphax
      @dmphax ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@EraVulgarity the coolest part of Jackyl's career, imo, was when they protested against K-mart for not selling their album due to explicit content, and then rolled up on a flat bed to perform outside a K-Mart, which they filmed and were arrested as a result. 🤣

  • @brians4778
    @brians4778 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    On the nine inch nails rig rundown they explain how guitar tones changes, lighting effects, backing tracks, and click tracks and a bunch of other things are all loaded into a computer system for their live gigs. This would help people understand why the computers are so critical for bands.

    • @jynxycats
      @jynxycats ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, NIN also gets a bit more credit and has more clout in this instance. I'd understand if something by Trent Reznor was a bit more involved as far as computer driven audio. He actually has artistic talent, and knows what he's doing.

    • @brandonheart9933
      @brandonheart9933 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Name one time NIN canceled a show that people paid hard earned money for because a laptop wouldn't work. If its so important why would they not have a back up laptop? FIR just seems lazy or stupid af.

  • @robertn4840
    @robertn4840 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Finn you're wrong, if Ronnie cared less about what a out of shape 50 year old man threatening him on the internet had to say about using laptops we wouldn't have gotten those absolutely hilarious memes. The biplane meme had me dead, I actually laughed out loud. Ronster got him good with those

    • @heytheremr2
      @heytheremr2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The hector salamanca one was too on the head 😂

    • @nexoycer
      @nexoycer ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ronster 💀

    • @Lizardkingmediaproductions
      @Lizardkingmediaproductions ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That dude's older than 50 bro. He's probably more like born in '58.

  • @chrisofna
    @chrisofna ปีที่แล้ว +26

    You can 100% tell the era of the internet Ronnie is from by his humor.

  • @lilchris42424
    @lilchris42424 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I also would imagine that if this modern tech was around during the 80’s in full swing, it would for sure have been utilized to it’s fullest by all of the top tier bands.

    • @w8kdzradio113
      @w8kdzradio113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      we didn't have it so we had to learn to play something, now that everyone can just use a computer the market is saturated with these no talent losers, someone needs to tell Ronnie that all the emo girls grew up and don't listen to whiney poser music anymore

    • @doobiousd5020
      @doobiousd5020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And that would have been sad. It's not that it's common or long-standing, it's just too bad that we demand such perfection from these musicians that they'd need a track. The drummer having a computer as a metronome or to change sounds or using a computer to trigger guitar pedals being is absolutely not a problem though.
      This dude talking about Millennial or Gen Z kids having grown up listening to SR is kind if funny though.

    • @JustJoshLTRB
      @JustJoshLTRB ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bands were using tape in the 80s too. It's really nothing new.

    • @robnagelhoutmusic
      @robnagelhoutmusic ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@JustJoshLTRB exactly, and bands in the 80's and 90's had droves of assistant engineers meticulously cutting tape, editing on early DAW systems, using pitch wheels on keyboards and sampler devices to tune tracks, etc. The idea that older music was not edited to the extent that it could be at the time is a fantasy.

  • @ATEN_DNAR
    @ATEN_DNAR ปีที่แล้ว +21

    3:18 : "You don't bring a whole orchestra on tour."
    Dimmu Borgir: hold my beer

  • @richardb2652
    @richardb2652 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    As a boomer I can honestly say I appreciate the musicians who play in falling in reverse. Just turned 50. Official Boomer, remember the debut of "youth gone wild"

    • @User-54631
      @User-54631 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      At 50 you’re a gen Xer boomers are like 55+

    • @travisspaulding2222
      @travisspaulding2222 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      If you're 50, then you're Gen X. Your generation stays with you for life. Unless, you're just using the term metaphorically, which is the way most people use it, lol.

    • @dynamicphotography_
      @dynamicphotography_ ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Gen X for sure. In fact Skid Row tracks were Gen X anthems when they came out.
      He's saying boomer mentality though. I get that.

    • @Djfmdotcom
      @Djfmdotcom ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lol we’re Gen-X sir! 😂😂🎉

    • @efrainmendez2623
      @efrainmendez2623 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@User-54631 I’m sure most people just use boomer as a general term for older people 😅

  • @hollyroxy25
    @hollyroxy25 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Eddie & Sebastian are the literal embodiment of “you kids get tf off my lawn”!!

  • @jeremycunningham7897
    @jeremycunningham7897 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Ronnie is never one to let it go but he’s funny as f**k so fair play!

    • @w8kdzradio113
      @w8kdzradio113 ปีที่แล้ว

      you think if he was going to defend himself or the situation he would be in a band that doesn't suck, he just looks like a man child with this

  • @satansrobotho
    @satansrobotho ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As a FOH Soundtech from Trunk and Bach's era, what I find embarrassing here is that F.I.R. didn't have a quadruple redundancy system for their show.

  • @MaRoach7
    @MaRoach7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I'm almost 60 and saw Ronnie in August and he was 🔥. Ronnie is the total package

    • @w8kdzradio113
      @w8kdzradio113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      anyone can yell vocals, did he play anything??

    • @PlatinumJRAD
      @PlatinumJRAD ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@w8kdzradio113 how bottom feeder are you to reply on everyone's comments crying about Ronnie Radke 🤣

    • @emilylee5620
      @emilylee5620 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@w8kdzradio113 dude you have over 40 comments just hating on Ronnie?💀 get a life

  • @ProductionsFromBeyon
    @ProductionsFromBeyon ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Raging against backing tracks in a fear mongering type of way has been Trunks’ MO for years

    • @PedroHenrique-mj1mn
      @PedroHenrique-mj1mn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yet he does not shits on Judas Priest and Motley Crue for doing the same thing. And worse, he does not say a single word about KISS doing full PLAYBACKS/LIP SYNCING their shows. Fuck Eddie Trunk.

    • @w8kdzradio113
      @w8kdzradio113 ปีที่แล้ว

      well let me ask you something then, suppose you paid $200 to see your favorite band, and when you got there it was just a computer, you would be p**sed too

  • @derektully7607
    @derektully7607 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    that first Jackyl record is a damn good time, and I'll stand by it. Poor bastards didn't do anything and they get dragged in here and shit on because of Eddie Trunk 😆😆😆

  • @carterpochynok4874
    @carterpochynok4874 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    In fairness, the chainsaw solo is actually pretty creative. If it's done on a real chainsaw, it would take quite a bit of testing and control to determine and utilize the tonal range of a chainsaw effectively...

    • @timothyreel716
      @timothyreel716 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, it was fucking stupid!!!

    • @glenndanzigsmanycats2045
      @glenndanzigsmanycats2045 ปีที่แล้ว

      The chainsaw solo wasnt even the worst part of that song. Jackyl is just straight ass.

  • @JonnyFoxx
    @JonnyFoxx ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Jackyl has merch that says “rock me, roll me, Jackyl me off.” Which has to give them a few bonus points, right? 😂

    • @anthonythegoalie62
      @anthonythegoalie62 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't forget the She loves my Cock shirt. But seriously I saw them live this past May and they were good. Even had a free meet and greet

  • @danielc5205
    @danielc5205 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    If you're born after 1958, you're technically not a boomer. Also, Jackyl was the Steel Panther of the 90's, they don't take themselves serious. Things like the chainsaw solo was designed to be cringy, that's Jackyl.

    • @kevineckelkamp
      @kevineckelkamp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Boomers are 1946 to 1964. Look it up.

  • @Chelaxim
    @Chelaxim ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Not only does Kiss lip synch and uses instrumental tracks their legendary live album Alive isn't actually live. It's has canned audience noise and it's actually just them doing their songs in one take without and vocal overdubs other than the four of them singing in harmony.

  • @legenwaitforitdary3508
    @legenwaitforitdary3508 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Bro I was dying laughing at that chainsaw solo 😂

  • @dookieeater
    @dookieeater ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Your “Metal Blade Records” shirt gets blocked by your mic and it look like it says “Meth Blade Records”

    • @jpgiles1725
      @jpgiles1725 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Hell Yeah Brother!

    • @kalebburgess5088
      @kalebburgess5088 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Haha It fuckin does!🤣

    • @FinnMckentyPRMBA
      @FinnMckentyPRMBA  ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Meth Blade Records sounds like the sickest grindcore label

    • @dookieeater
      @dookieeater ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@FinnMckentyPRMBA I have a studio at my house and it now has a name hahaha

    • @DadCore666
      @DadCore666 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I work in a jail near Finn. Let me tell ya, meth blades exist over here lmao.

  • @tonywaters9072
    @tonywaters9072 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The old bands didn’t have the luxury of backing tracks back in the day. They HAD to play their shit.

  • @nicholasc.3928
    @nicholasc.3928 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I went to that festival for Falling in Reverse, still went because the tickets were non refundable. Was really looking forward to seeing them live. I will say though Jackyl doesn't take themselves seriously at all and they're honestly just a party band, I don't think that band is as stuck up as many classic rock fans who worship Queen and Aerosmith are.

  • @MiikeyLawless
    @MiikeyLawless ปีที่แล้ว +7

    While I also agree with Ronnie here, there's no need to shit on Jackyl to make the point. They are a solid rock and roll band.

  • @omaid482
    @omaid482 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I’m a simple man.
    I see “Ronnie Radke vs…” in the title, I click on it.

  • @cramx3
    @cramx3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think both sides are right and wrong. Bands use backing tracks for click, for lights, for intro/outro music and more. But rock bands SHOULD still be able to perform without them. Sure, it may not be the show the band wants because it's meant to "enhance" as they say, but why can't they just performa a single show without the laptop? It would be raw and probably really awesome IMO. I saw Wolfie Van Halen earlier this year and his band was missing a guitarist for the show. He said he could have had it played through a track or cancelled, but he didn't want to do either so he took the time to adjust his own guitar parts to make a sound that was raw, live, and close to the album as he possibly could by himself. The result was an awesome and unique show that the fans appreciated.

    • @w8kdzradio113
      @w8kdzradio113 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't need to hear intros and outros, if everything was like the CD there would be no draw to go to the show

    • @cramx3
      @cramx3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@w8kdzradio113 yeah, personally I like fully live bands for the rawness and the imperfections. That's just me though.

  • @NexusLives
    @NexusLives ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I actually like Jackyl. They're a fun live show. Very much, a party band that doesn't take themselves seriously at all. I'd put their live show up there with Steel Panther, at least when I saw them like 15 or so years ago. "Down On Me" is a pretty solid rock song, too.
    But yeah, I'm down with how this "Laptop Gate" shit is stupid. I think the only real criticism would be: Why didn't they have a backup that was kept by a separate crew member?

  • @blairwos1382
    @blairwos1382 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jacky has lots of great songs. Don't know any Falling in Reverse songs. The band is the engine not some fucking laptop!!

  • @KnivingDispodia
    @KnivingDispodia ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I once met Sebastian Bach at a biker rally I was working at. He was coked out of his mind and wouldn’t stop telling everyone who he was. Literally nobody cared.

    • @fernandocrespin7201
      @fernandocrespin7201 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I fucking read this as eddie truck instead of bach and it sounds way funnier

    • @w8kdzradio113
      @w8kdzradio113 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      very true, how is he billed, former lead singer of Skid Row, he wasn't even the talent in that band

    • @KnivingDispodia
      @KnivingDispodia ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@w8kdzradio113 That’s the best part, to the best of my knowledge he wasn’t even playing in the lineup for the biker rally. He was just kinda…there.

    • @HansenFT
      @HansenFT ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KnivingDispodia why can't Sebastian enjoy a biker rally like a normal biker?

    • @lcplPoop
      @lcplPoop ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KnivingDispodia so like his trailer park boys character is just him lol?

  • @MadaraUchiha-ot4om
    @MadaraUchiha-ot4om ปีที่แล้ว +5

    one of the worst mistakes I ever made in my life was joining a boomer metal Facebook group (which I wasn't aware of at the time) talking about symphonic deathcore bands holy shhh the heat I got for that
    🤣🤣🤣some old heads will never understand

    • @Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle
      @Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      there are facebook groups with only music fans born before 1965? weird....
      maybe the band being C leaguers is why you got heat for it?

  • @MilitantMe
    @MilitantMe ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm here for the unhinged malarkey, gosh darn it

  • @PapaRainYT
    @PapaRainYT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. I mustve been under a rock. Luke joined Falling in Reverse?!? Ronnie recruiting the avengers for his band

  • @dejavoodooV2
    @dejavoodooV2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    finn is the dj akademiks of rock beef

    • @eatassonthefirstdate
      @eatassonthefirstdate ปีที่แล้ว

      No, finn isn't a pretentious crybaby douchebag who says shit to make ppl hate him, then cry victim and racism bullshit.
      AK is a tool. He talks about ppl exploiting the culture but yet HE BLEW UP from his series called 'The War in Chiraq' he literally got famous off of black kids shooting each other 😂

  • @JoltinJoe26
    @JoltinJoe26 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Jackyl actually wrote some pretty good rock 'n' roll songs....good live show
    I am pretty sure Aerosmith has a full time keyboard player live (*might* explain the piano still playing with Tyler standing on it 🤷)

  • @gavxmas
    @gavxmas ปีที่แล้ว +51

    While Ronnie ain't wrong, everything should have been backed up and should be replaceable in a day

    • @dynamicphotography_
      @dynamicphotography_ ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That's actually a good point. Gotta have back-up stuff.
      Get some new laptops quick and get the info off the cloud.

    • @w8kdzradio113
      @w8kdzradio113 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yep, and if they were brand new laptops as he said, I would be watching them like a hawk

    • @1mlb704
      @1mlb704 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seriously. How pissed as a fan would you be if you had tickets to see them and they cancelled because some of their equipment went missing?

    • @gavxmas
      @gavxmas ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@1mlb704 its the same as if they arrived with no guitars. I understand that's a show stopper, but it was only a rehearsal day, hire the stuff in

    • @chloed4513
      @chloed4513 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes! They canceled 24 hours before, I can't believe they couldn't get new laptops and figure out something in that time frame. I am one of.those.who got a chainsaw solo instead of fir, and I enjoyed the hell out of it because they showed up!

  • @travisspaulding2222
    @travisspaulding2222 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I know in 1990, maybe 1991, Firehouse used to use a DAT player to pump out backing vocals. To be fair, I'm sure everyone on stage is playing their instruments and singing their parts, but the backing vocals were studio quality and perfect. Not to mention Nine Inch Nails has been using backing tracks their entire career. Backing tracks and laptops have been in rock n roll for a very long time.

    • @w8kdzradio113
      @w8kdzradio113 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yep sure has, but if the expectation is $200 per ticket for a laptop to play, I would rather stay at home, live means live, if I want to hear a CD I can buy it once for $20 and play it forever

    • @w8kdzradio113
      @w8kdzradio113 ปีที่แล้ว

      in 1989 Milli vanilli used a DAT player too and we all know the tragic results of that

    • @jynxycats
      @jynxycats ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The backing vocals part just sounds ... weird af though, especially when they're super clean and perfect. Have your band members sing, they're in the band too. The point shouldn't be that these bands use them to make their music, but that they're absolutely helpless without, and have no conceivable alternative as if the songs would not be physically possible, or listenable, without these few elements. That is 0% true. In the entire history of live music, gonna guess artists have somehow achieved this once or twice.

    • @travisspaulding2222
      @travisspaulding2222 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jynxycats I think in the case with Firehouse, they were singing, they were just singing along to a track. They still have to be in key, or it will sound off. I think FH layered their backing vocals a lot in the studio to almost make it sound like a choir, so to preserve that live, they had an accompanying track to fill in the blanks, since each member can't physically do their vocals twice like in the studio. I personally prefer the rawness of just them singing, but I get why they wanted to do it.

    • @doobiousd5020
      @doobiousd5020 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@w8kdzradio113 which is weird because the songs themselves obviously slapped.

  • @juanrules
    @juanrules ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ugh, he didnt say Jackyl was better than Falling In Reverse, he said the band that subbed for them didnt need laptops.

  • @scottlame6724
    @scottlame6724 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You could've defended Ronnie without shitting all over Jackyl in the process. Not only were they not involved in the beef but they are a really fun band to see live. The guys in Jackyl are very good guys and have been making music for decades and deserve some respect.

    • @glitter404
      @glitter404 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just because theyre good guys and have performed for a long time doesnt mean they are any good, doesnt work that way sorry.

    • @scottlame6724
      @scottlame6724 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@glitter404 What does that have to do with what I said? Some people like a band and some don't, that's personal preference and not worth arguing about. I'm saying the cheap shots Finn took were completely uncalled for because Jackyl wasn't involved in the Twitter spat. He plays a few seconds of the silly Lumberjack song and says they are the worst band ever knowing damn well many followers of his have no clue who they are or have heard any of their music.

    • @glenndanzigsmanycats2045
      @glenndanzigsmanycats2045 ปีที่แล้ว

      He shat on jackyl for the purpose of calling out eddie trunk for being an out of touch boomer. Also, jackyl sucks ass. Idc how good of people they might be.

  • @dmphax
    @dmphax ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dude, the chainsaw solo is absolutely fantastic though!

  • @abbidar1127
    @abbidar1127 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This video is just evidence that Fin truly is the metal/hardcore dad😂

  • @toddpacker4683
    @toddpacker4683 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A chainsaw solo? Woah so badass, these guys must be tough, you don’t wanna mess with these guys

  • @fernandodominguez9143
    @fernandodominguez9143 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Finn Mckenty be like: “I’d be happy to say something critical about a genre”
    “But I don’t want to put down individuals because it’s just not what I want to do with my life”
    Then proceeds to do that with his life by putting down a band unprovoked that simply filled in for another band. Walking contradiction if I’ve ever seen one…

  • @KuLaydMahn
    @KuLaydMahn ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I hope Finn really does start dropping in a laugh track. Just once in awhile

    • @Juliankb39
      @Juliankb39 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A full sound board with silly noises on it like ola does would be great

    • @drinkinouttacups2665
      @drinkinouttacups2665 ปีที่แล้ว

      redbar

  • @punisherdude06
    @punisherdude06 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I saw Jackyl live in 2006. Fun show.

    • @debrahigh7968
      @debrahigh7968 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesse James Dupree owned the Full Throttle Saloon in Sturgis for years..they put on great shows with lots of entertainment. They had some good songs. Always a fun time.

  • @ShadowOfDeathPsalm23
    @ShadowOfDeathPsalm23 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dude that Jackyl song kicks ass. This is coming from a 25 year old.

  • @lixerium2529
    @lixerium2529 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just remember eddie trunk as a serial name dropper. Most of TMS was him reminiscing about hanging out with (insert iconic metal musicians here) times however many names he can remember.

  • @purehatred2850
    @purehatred2850 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    People like Eddie Trunk haven't left the 80's. He thinks there is no music after 80's. I grew up listening to 80's music but for me it is nostalgia. People I went to high school with still listen to 80's almost exclusivly. Eddie is not the only one!

    • @ogvelociraptor205
      @ogvelociraptor205 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Eddie Trunk is outdated and closed minded.
      Dude would shit, if He listened to Black Metal along with Death Metal being it was Heavy Metal as a genre going through changes being good/bad He's stuck in the 80's Radio Metal Era.

  • @alpha12421
    @alpha12421 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I see where ronnie is coming from, but it would have been cool if they would have made something work like an acoustic show. In my case I'm more there for the artist rather than the proformance.

  • @LoptukqrickL11
    @LoptukqrickL11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm surprised Jackyl is still able to play live with gas prices the way they are.

  • @nikokaliterna
    @nikokaliterna ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That chainsaw solo is quite dope tbh…

  • @jessecovey1778
    @jessecovey1778 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gotta say, Finn; I’d take Jackyl over Falling In Reverse any day. I’m 45, so I don’t think I’m a Boomer. It’s all relative though, and I still respect you. BTW, I think Ronnie is right about the hypocrisy.

    • @HansenFT
      @HansenFT ปีที่แล้ว

      You're a boomerette

  • @apl2606
    @apl2606 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Would be advisable to have a backup on the cloud or on a memory drive. Shocking that they cancel shows just because of stolen laptops. Can happen any time.

  • @lornesguitarcompany6504
    @lornesguitarcompany6504 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There needs to be a discussion about who is using tracks to enhance the performance and who is using tracks as the performance. The trunk was one of the first ones to pile on Kiss for going full-on Milli Vanilli and I'll support that stance. I'm not paying to see anyone lip-synch. But what a lot of musicians are doing now is no different than what most bands did during Trunk's era when they hid keyboard players and backing singers behind the stage.

  • @amberhoward7807
    @amberhoward7807 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Embarrassing. but Ronnie roasting him was absolutely hilarious and worth all of it!

  • @lilchris42424
    @lilchris42424 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sabastian Bach will never not be synonymous with model trains in my mind

    • @afinch93
      @afinch93 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who here is into trains!?!

  • @theangelbelow88
    @theangelbelow88 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To be fair, chainsaws as a musical instrument are severally underutilized in modern music

  • @JoeyShip
    @JoeyShip ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Someone said Rosanne-Core to the band Jackyl in the chat and they couldn’t be more right! Fucking killed me. Hahah.

  • @angelaaltman864
    @angelaaltman864 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Bach is still bitter that Grunge kicked hair metal "bach" to the Stone Age.

  • @Schellnino1994
    @Schellnino1994 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think a better analogy would be "Driving a Car without Automatic shifting." You CAN learn how to ride stick, and back in the day people only had stick. But that doesn't make u less of a racer using automatic. (Although using stick can be inpressive)

    • @krokovay.marcell
      @krokovay.marcell ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No race car has automatic shift:)
      I don’t think music should be compared to a race, I don’t want to hear IF Joe Satriani (just an example) can play his incredibly technical solos live, I want to listen to him AS he plays them live. If he needs help, he should take it.

    • @Schellnino1994
      @Schellnino1994 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krokovay.marcell that's fair to not call it a race. I was more comparing the artisty of making music with the artistry of driving professionally! And thats interesting to know that racecars don't use automatic!
      I just think that people often use samples to "not have to bring a sitar on stage" as Finn said. But how awesome is it when they actually do bring a sitar on stage?
      I think sample are used for easiness but it's always better to have the actual thing. Especially because then it allows for variation, which is one major point of a live setting. Often with sampled songs, there is little to no variation.

  • @kevinhibbard320
    @kevinhibbard320 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    They lost me at the laptop argument haha

  • @jcmc2378
    @jcmc2378 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think Eddie's point was to just bite the bullet and go play the show, but went about it in the worst way possible. Seriously that argument was terrible by Trunk/Bach.

  • @srod349
    @srod349 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the lead singer of jackal legit got Tom Green mad when he chainsawed his hosting table.

  • @eternallife9786
    @eternallife9786 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wasn't saying jackal is better he was saying they didn't need laptops to do their show

  • @johnnydi2203
    @johnnydi2203 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "When you went to the show, did you have fun?"
    No, because the band pulled out lol.

  • @carlsbirdhouse
    @carlsbirdhouse ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if Jackal's chainsaw solo was just a dead prop swinging around to a soundbite from a laptop? Would it still be fun knowing that? We have a world filled with terrible edm dj's, overpriced pop stars that lip sync in arenas, and rappers who can barely rap-along with training wheel vocal tracks. Milli Vanilli would have thrived in this era.

  • @aidinexmachina4232
    @aidinexmachina4232 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The best part about Sebastian Bach is his love and enthusiasm for Model Trains.

    • @w8kdzradio113
      @w8kdzradio113 ปีที่แล้ว

      yep and we all know that he was the hot head that almost broke Skid Row up, remember the AIDS shirt, yeah Snake Sabo decided he didn't want to be around that guy anymore

    • @tinawillits8223
      @tinawillits8223 ปีที่แล้ว

      Omg can all these Nancy's please stop getting so butt hurt about a f**** shirt omg oh my God whatever happened to sticks and Stones this world is ridiculous he's apologized for it over n over again good god

  • @UniDashCorn
    @UniDashCorn ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The part where Sebastian Bach called Luke Holland a fake drummer 🤣🤣🤣

  • @mikebaldino333
    @mikebaldino333 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm not gonna die on the Sebastian Bach hill but the first two Skid Row records are really good. I remember that t-shirt being cringe even at the time, but we had Andrew Dice Clay-type humor etc. as well and the times were just different. Watch an Eddie Murphy special from the 80s. It is interesting to see Axl Rose being really woke as well now having written "One In A Million".
    This Bach interview in a record store is very wholesome:
    th-cam.com/video/dSGw8S8SMJ8/w-d-xo.html
    Not to sound completely boomer-ish at 44 but why are there no more live albums, and will that ever be a thing again? It would be cool to hear bands reinterpret their studio material for what they're able to do on the road; I think it would make the shows more exciting as well.

  • @JoseGalvan
    @JoseGalvan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Actual LOL at "What if they left their chainsaw on the bus or something?"
    😂

  • @daveengwer8072
    @daveengwer8072 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is it criminal that I like Jackyl while also growing up on Falling in Reverse? I mean chainsaw solo c'mon Finn you're always talking about the lack of bands pushing the boundaries and escaping the status quo but it's bad when boomers do it?

  • @RandyBadour
    @RandyBadour ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many many concert venues I've performed at over the years are often shocked that my band doesn't use tracks. It's widely known in the business that the MAJORITY of all genres are using tracks now and heavy music you likely won't find 1 that doesn't.

  • @nu-metalfan2654
    @nu-metalfan2654 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tbh that Jackyl song is miles better than anything Ronnie Radke has ever done.

  • @LitithsClaptrap
    @LitithsClaptrap ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Jackyl bit made me laugh. I work for a Harley-Davidson shop and Harley does a contest with Jesse James Dupree, the lead singer of Jackyl, every year. That was literally the first time I've ever heard of him or the band.

  • @Eveningshades
    @Eveningshades ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude the chainsaw solo had me fucking dying haha

  • @nickp978
    @nickp978 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm surprised bands at this scale don't utilize cloud backups.

  • @emilybrooks4016
    @emilybrooks4016 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    my mom went to that festival, i thought it was very interesting to see a band like falling in reverse playing with bands like saliva and other notable butt rock bands, but i guess they forgot there laptops lmfao

  • @drekked6760
    @drekked6760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't believe the chainsaw-as-an-instrument thing didn't catch on.

  • @rmpunk99
    @rmpunk99 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t think there’s necessarily an issue with having backing tracks. A lot of bands old and new use some sort of backing tracks. Evanescence uses their orchestral backing tracks for example. With that being said, my issue with the whole Falling In Reverse thing was that they canceled their show because they didn’t have them. If I was in that position, I’d still play the show and make the best out of it.

  • @dragonisseth
    @dragonisseth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember when the lead singer of Jackyl appeared on the Tom Green show and chainsawed up his desk without Tom knowing. Tom's a pretty chill guy, but not after that.

  • @Dram1984
    @Dram1984 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The chainsaw solo is the pinnacle of musical achievement

  • @JustJoshLTRB
    @JustJoshLTRB ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aerosmith has a touring keyboardist that plays with them. He plays the piano parts he plays then the touring keys guys fills it.

  • @Mischiefmaniacs2270
    @Mischiefmaniacs2270 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think Ronnie goes to this extent sometimes because, when is it going to be enough. All the genius creativity that he’s put out always just doesn’t seem enough. Misunderstood, feeds the homeless on his birthday every year, never toots his own horn unless it comes to music. It’s more pathetic that the older gentleman started a fight online. They’re acting like a child who thinks that their words are proving a point not even paying attention to how it makes anyone else feel.
    He’s a genuinely great human being who has fought to get to where he is. He’ll keep fighting until the day he truly gets the respect he deserves.

    • @w8kdzradio113
      @w8kdzradio113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ok so Ronnie was allowed to take a swipe at Eddie Trunk without repercussions good to know, I wish that 14 year old maniac would take a poke at me, last thing he will remember

    • @jackthompson1544
      @jackthompson1544 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sadly, if you go on twitter/reddit, they're all collectively shitting on Ronnie because they all just found out he exists because his gf returned to pro wrestling. She apparently uses one of his songs as her entrance theme and so they must've looked him up, seen all of the headlines over the years and now they're just dragging him over the coals for shit he did 10-15 years ago. They're legitimately calling him a murderer/r*pist/domestic abuser because they can't read beyond a headline. 🤦‍♂️ It's a shame because I genuinely think (just like Finn) that Ronnie's a good dude, just did some silly shit in his younger years and doesn't know when to ignore idiots on twitter.

  • @Solarsey
    @Solarsey ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ronnie will go to the depths of hell to find any dirt on somebody who makes fun of him

    • @Chelaxim
      @Chelaxim ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a level of pettiness I love.

  • @yourbeardlybro5887
    @yourbeardlybro5887 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm sad that the King of Rock Weird AL didn't swoop in to calm down the man-babies

  • @nickudeschini4812
    @nickudeschini4812 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sebastian Bach is the anthropomorphic personification of the term "hold my beer"

  • @rkirke1
    @rkirke1 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Yeah, maybe Ronnie got caught up in the drama and spent a bit too long on it in this case, but fuuuuck did he came out on top.. Those @sebastianbach posts cracked me up! Team boomer didn't realize they'd walked into the social media equivalent of a rap battle and lost BADLY. If someone's had serious anger issues in the past & is working on it, roasting clowns online and getting massive amounts of free press is a pretty healthy outlet IMO!

    • @w8kdzradio113
      @w8kdzradio113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it is important to note that Sebastian and Eddie are not the spokesman for older folks, if Falling in Reverse wants to play a computer, I say let them, and I will take my money and go see Slipknot or Megadeth and then the market can decide if these guys have staying power or not, I say not, Emo was played out by 2010

    • @gameofhonks4410
      @gameofhonks4410 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@w8kdzradio113 Megadeth seems to be doing quite well and seems to manage to evolve just fine from 83 up until now and I'd expect to see a band that's gone 40 years to evolve with the technological changes thrown at the industry. Keeping things the same isn't good, it just starts to stagnate. I'm a Gen-Xer and its fun to just listen to a playlist of different bands or even the same bands esp those with keep on going to just see the progress and change they go through out the years.

  • @TypicalKid100
    @TypicalKid100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I get all the digitalized stuff, not just backing tracks, but they literally run all their guitars via Axe FX through the laptops. But I also don’t know why they couldn’t dust off their 5150’s and play the show if they’re that good

  • @trashedbodomguy
    @trashedbodomguy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The boomers as you call them are absolutely right

  • @Pete.Franco
    @Pete.Franco ปีที่แล้ว +2

    News Flash! It's now ok for different people to like different things. Some people like the full experience with backing tracks, and some people just want the band onstage jamming. If you don't like either one, fine, but why does the internet need to agree with you to validate your personal opinion nowadays? To quote one of Finn's favorite bands "And if you don't like it, just don't listen to it" (Quote from the Offspring)