Dijonay Jones: The Worst Friend Ever
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In the reboot, she outed the new kids by telling everyone they had 2 dads, easily got over Sticky and was immediately smitten with one of those new kids, and most recently hacked Penny’s phone and got a homeless teacher fired
Goddamn! She only got worse in the reboot. Really hope they give Dijonay *SOME* redemption before she becomes an irredeemable character.
If they don’t redeem her character (which I actually don’t want them to) they need Penny to get her out of the friend group. It could be a good lesson to kids or at least just teach her a lesson and make her character improve… SOMETHING
You would think the writers would have some common sense about her character. Why would the guy even like her when she outed his fathers? Seriously, you would think he would hate her for doing that and telling her what a piece of garbage she really is.
@@albireotheredguard1599 he doesn’t like her, he avoids her but I get what you’re saying
@@IHateTheHandleUpdate well she did stand up for penny a little one ep and i wondered if she was sick or something and then later episodes a bitch again
To be fair the gross sisters are better than friends to penny.
The gross sisters had a code. There were lines they wouldn't cross and they actually kept their word.
At least penny knew where she stood with them. They may have been schoolyard bullies but they had a code of sorts that they wouldn't cross. (For example they made a point to not associate with actual criminals)
The Gross Sisters are no longer villains. They gave up stealing money to create rap songs.
@@siyahseeker Eh... That's them just elevating their schtick. Lol
@@bored4033 good point, love a complex character and especially teens with standards
It was established in the first episode that Dijonay was a fake friend when she gave Penny and LaCianega a tie in cheerleading tryouts after she told Penny she was in AND when Suga Mama uttered the line " I told you to ditch that Dijonay girl a long time ago" the major sign of a fake ass friend
So what? Ever seen Meangirls?
@Will N wait a year? cause the movie was her turning 16 louder and prouder turned her 14
“Especially that Dijon girl; she faker than your fake friends”.
@Will N it was a soft reboot. theyre all 14-15 and in middle school like the previous series
Agreed
Dijonay is kinda worse than that Harry Potter character you mentioned because his life was on the line whereas Dijonay just tries to avoid being inconvenienced.
Dijonay is just a fairweather friend.
@@Nakia11798 and is that bad thing?
@@itsblitz4437 should be an obvious yes.
Patrick Star is an even worse friend than she is
@@paolotorres8537 Patrick is at least dumb enough to not even understand things are messed up most of the time though
Can we talk about Penny’s parents always making Penny miss key moments as a teenager just to babysit? But get mad when she made mature actions.
The show just screws Penny over so much I'm surprised she still has the patience to deal with any of them, and _then_ the show wants to paint _HER_ as the one in the wrong! It's fvckin ridiculous.
I really wish I could hug her tbh she doesn't deserve this
@starletnight2849 Even in the reboot they don't treat her right. Like when they locked her outside her home at NIGHT. Putting her in literal potential danger. I can definitely see Penny cutting off her friends and family when she gets older and has more personal freedom.
I mean, I come from a Mexican family but that's very real 😂 My mom worked late sometimes and couldn't afford any kind of daycare or sitter so the older siblings watched the younger ones. I didn't get to do too many key moments until I was 18 and moved out
She had to take two toddlers to a museum of all places, and the parents were going to continue to leave her in charge of them when it became very obvious she cannot handle it anymore. It is not safe for her to babysit both children at the same time, especially in a public place. I’m hoping that part of realizing Bebe is autistic is them realizing he is not their daughter’s responsibility.
She also had to risk being late to school to change diapers.
Why do you have to ask permission?
I think Suga mama said it best. "She's faker than your fake friends."
I remember this episode 😂😂😂
On god
Sugar mama was always my favorite character she’s so real
As you get older you realize who your true friends are, and as far as Penny's circle is concerned the only real friends she had was Sticky and Michael who would rag on her like everyone else does, but they were never mean spirited, it was always in jest, and yeah friends do rag on eachother for fun. But her female peers are all trash.
Dijonay is disloyal and self serving, and a total stalker that we're supposed to laugh at, even though if it was the other way around, viewers would take offense to her lovesick antics.
Lacienega is stuckup, and antagonistic towards penny at every given opportunity. She has layers for sure, but it's clear she's that one financially well off friend that everyone gravitates towards for the wealth and nothing else.
Zoey is a sheep who flocks with the majority. She's a nice girl, but she's only as loyal as long as you're the winning side.
It paints a bleak picture of Penny's social life where she surrounds herself with people she has to call her friends because she doesn't have any better options, and IRL sometimes it really is like that for folks growing up, and eventually they mature and outgrow those people in their lives and find new ones.
Never watched the show but I'm gonna use this for story inspiration.
Makes me wonder if they will ever tackle this problem in the Proud Family louder and prouder?
@@katymbeke8400 like what exactly?
Sticky and Michael are great
@@itsblitz4437 Creative Writing, I've already got something planned but it's gonna take awhile before the Penny inspired character gets into the picture.
She's equally bad in the reboot, if not worse. Currently up to the episode "raging bully" she's done things such as out a gay couple after being told not to by penny, sold out her teacher's bad living situation, and didn't even stick up for penny when she was kicked from the dance/singing group they formed in the original show. She's been nothing but a hinderance to the group, even saying its completely okay her siblings just stole bobby's car.
To be fair, Bobby deserved that one for being a douche to her siblings.
Oh boy S2 Ep3 "Curved" makes her even more terrible...
Well in season 2 episode 3 of the reboot, we finally have more of a connection to Dijonay and she starts being nicer to Penny
@@lifeboy3253 I’ll give Dijonay some credit though. At least in Louder and Prouder, she makes an honest effort to be a better friend, and on her own initiative. She didn’t hesitate to tell LaCienega to quit stealing Kareem from Penny. In another episode, she didnt like LaCienega giving Penny crap for her new voice, and she didn’t approve of Bobby kicking Penny (his own niece) out of the band. And in the episode with Al Roker, Dijonay refused to allow Penny to stay behind in her wish-induced college reality, and she sent Oscar the contract when Penny failed to leave before the trial period ended.
I can bearly watch the show bc of Dijonay and I love most of the proud family I just can’t with her. She reminds me too much of my own toxic friend group dynamics to be enjoyable
What's kinda scary is that even Eric Cartman has more redeeming qualities compare to DIjonay and we're usually not suppose root for Cartman.
Wait what?! How?!
i'm gonna have to disagree, cartman is 100x worse than dijonay ..
Hes most likely referring to the return of covid movie.
No.
The writers don't pretend Cartman isn't a terrible person, but he actually has principles and a sense of honor unlike Dijonay.
The writers really did make her an awful stereotype, which sucked because representation was so hard to come by back then, especially for dark skin black girls.
Are you black?
Colorism is kind of a huge problem of The Proud Family
Yes!!!
No fr, they made her the black ratchet girl bestfriend that will talk behind your back, throw you under the buss if it benefits them, or sneaky friend that wants your boyfriend 😭
Exactly
I actually respect LaCienega more than Dijonay because at least LaCienega is up front about not liking Penny and doing her dirty to her face. Dijonay be underhanded with it.
Kids back in the day and I had a code in elementary school that the most people i had the most respect for are the people who disliked me up front about it than the people who are actually stabbing me in the back behind closed doors. Now these days people want friends just to make friends for the sake of it it isnt genuine.
I see LaCienega as a precursor to Jade West from Victorious. She's not quite friends with the protagonist, but she shares a social circle. They'll be cool every now and then, but for the most part, they aren't friends.
LaCienaga at least respects Penny and I think she appreciates it when Penny helps her out like in the first episode of the reboot where Penny helped her with how puberty had affected her looks.
she got that goofy hairline
lookin like a cocnut
I have no respect for either of them. They're both mean girls and I SINCERELY don't know why Penny hangs around them. Also, LaCienega is the type of girl that's a well-spoiled Mexican princess, and has no problem leaving Dijonay behind when she finds the right guy.
Dijonnay is worse for the simple fact of when penny gets upset or actually give her a taste of her own medicine from all the backstabbing and being self serving the show itself paints penny as the bad guy who did her friends dirty but not when her friends are doing her dirty 💀
And I never could get why? I always thought that was so dumb and make little to no sense. Like she is supposed to be the all around forgiving good nature friend who just takes everyone's crap but can't do the same in reverse.
Well season 2 episode 3 of the reboot “Curved” finally gives us a connection to Dijonay and at the end she starts actually being a nice friend to Penny
@@lifeboy3253 what happens in that episode
@@bshans6036 Penny is preparing for her and Dijonay's friend-iversary. At the same time, she is also on the debate team with Maya, Myron, and Zoey. However, Zoey has lost her voice and a new debate team member is randomly chosen by their teacher Brother Kwame (Leslie Odom Jr.), who turns out to be Dijonay. No one thinks she is up to the task, but to their astonishment, Dijonay is revealed to have an eidetic memory and is able to help the team win the debate. She soon meets Darrius St. Vil (Chance the Rapper), another debate member, and begins to spend more time with him. Penny becomes angered, especially when they both begin to openly mock her in front of them. While at the zoo, Penny voices her frustrations to Shuggie the Panda before discovering that Darrius has been lifting notes from Dijonay. She reveals this to the team and Dijonay is angered in quits. On the day of the debate, Dijonay returns and helps her team win. While angry at Darrius, she forgives him and opts to celebrate her win and friend-iversary with Penny. This finally shows a change to Dijonay.
@@bshans6036
The episode definitely happens
Imagine being so bad of a friend that you make freaking Wormtail look better in contrast.
I mean he did kinds redeem himself in Hallows
@@DrakeKnight99 Yeah, but that was because he saw that being on Voldemort's side wasn't doing it for him, so he just moved to whatever was more convenient for his survival. It's really not any different than Snape in that regard. Pettigrew still was a little slimeball at the end of the day. 😅
@@DrakeKnight99 not really
@@DrakeKnight99 yeah kinda
@@DrakeKnight99 Lol no
Dijonay is literally a terrible person and she doesn't seem to get any better in the reboot. Honestly She seems like an obligatory friend, along with the rest of the bunch.
Most of Penny's friend circle seems to just be 'it's these guys or nothing'
and she wonders why sticky left
And sometimes you're better off picking nothing
But that’s so very real for a lot of kids
Who here hates dijoney
@@gxtmfa
It really is, I can relate to that aspect
I HATE this character with a passion. Even as a kid I always wondered why Penny never called off their friendship, cuz she's not only a terrible friend, but a terrible human being. And so far in the revival, she's hasn't gotten any better. Honestly at this point I'm so sick of her I want them to write an episode killing off her character and just have it be a "lesson" about grieving. At least then she'd bring something of value to the show
Calm down
@Curly-n-Girly Penny's friends don't have to be like the kids in Recess. This approach to flawed friendships seem more adult and nuanced
Even Suga mama dislike dijonay She usually comments on how she doesn't like Dijonay because of how two-faced selfish and backstabbing she is and how Penny shouldn't hang out with her. Considering the number of times Dijonay has ditched Penny and sold her out, Suga Mama is definitely not wrong in fact penny should have listen to grandmother and suger mama has told Penny at least twice that she needs to drop her as friend a long time ago which is understandable reasonsince Sugar Mama rightfully warning Penny about Dijonay being a bad influence and shouldn’t be friend with her to begin with because how self-serving untrustworthy and toxic she is to penny
@@williampearson6299 bruh she’s a horrible friend and the rest aren’t that better either penny needs some real friends
@@williampearson6299 At least the kids in Recess feel like genuine friends.
What baffles me is there was never an episode about how Penny has had enough with Dijonay and finally listens to Suga Mama when she said to ditch her. She should've done it a long time ago. All she's doing is bringing Penny down. Heck, even Lacienega isn't this bad.
Even Arnold ended it with Iggy .
Yeah, at least with Lacieaniga you know what to expect. She's mean and she owns up to it. But even she has boundaries.
Dijonay is just fake and two faced
At least Lacianega was honest and made it clear she doesn't like Penny
It no wonder why suga mama dislike dijonay She usually comments on how she doesn't like Dijonay because of how two-faced selfish unreliable and backstabbing she is and how Penny shouldn't hang out with her. Considering the number of times Dijonay has ditched Penny and sold her out, Suga Mama is definitely not wrong in fact penny should have listen to grandmother and suger mama has told Penny at least twice that she needs to drop her as friend a long time ago which is understandable reason since Sugar Mama rightfully warning Penny about Dijonay being a bad influence and shouldn’t be friend with her to begin with because how self-serving untrustworthy disloyal and toxic she is to penny
@Blue Anims yeah but penny need wake up call and wise up to realize that dijonay is not really friend material and must cut her out of her life
While I agree that Dijonay is the worst of the lot, she is by no means the only bad character. Penny's entire friend group is toxic. Also, I vastly disagree about the Proud Family being a show with consistently good characters. Just about every major character, except Oscar and Trudy, change based on what the episode needs at the time. Penny herself is a prime example, being an honor roll student whom her parents trust completely one episode, to being a party throwing delinquent the next.
Hey, hello, how do ya do?
I love you God bless you bro this comment made me happy@@BiggusJakeus
Do a video.
Penny is lightweight compared to Dijonay. Dijonay will stab you in the back then come back when what she betrayed you for fails. Although I think the worst character of that show is Suga Mama.
"Adventures in Bebesitting" had probably the most toxic reasoning from Penny to validate their friendship. It's basically along the lines of "we're best friends because even though I can't trust you, I can trust the fact that you will always be untrustworthy." "It's so not right that I don't even know if I wrote it down properly. I love the show very much, but that's not a good message for anyone to take cues from.
Even as a kid watching the episode, the ending never felt right to me. I mean, there’s accepting that your friend isn’t perfect, but accepting that your friend is not someone you can trust and rely on, not only is that totally different, but it’s definitely NOT OK!
A better ending would have involved Dijonay missing the concert because Penny doesn’t go back for her. A week passes by before Penny talks to Dijonay again, and she tells her that’s she’s sick of her taking advantage of their friendship and lying to her. Penny warns Dijonay that if she pulls another stunt, then their friendship is over for real. This way, Dijonay not only would get consequences (missing the concert while everyone else had fun!), but she knows that her staying friends with Penny all depends on whether or not she works at being a better friend to her.
I guess they were heading towards “better the devil you know” logic, but like…for a moral lesson? And if they absolutely had to do that, surely it would make more sense with the bullies than her actual friends?
cause they would of been called racists
I will forever stand by what Suga Mama said about Dijonay.
"She's faker than your fake friends."
Faker than the food in food comercials
I knew some male Dijonay friends I don't talk to anymore. Lets just say her character is trait that holds no sexes.
Exactly 💯💯💯💯
Yep, trash knows no gender 💀
Yes but nowhere in the video was it stated that this is an explicitly female trait.
@@imthebossmermaid3648 it is called an opinion, Mermaid. Just relating with the video and the topic.
@@LowellLucasJr. alr whatevs 😒
It really speaks to Penny's character how she forgives Dijonya every time but there's so much one can take till they cut someone so toxic out of their life
I know right?
I sort of just though the proud family is eh in hindsight as far as 2000's Disney cartoons go. Always preferred recess and the underrated Filmore
I'm irritated at the fact Penny has to be the one who should apologize and show she's the one in the wrong.
Speaks to how much of a dumb ass Penny is.
Glad I realized my ex best friend was a Dijonya. She would make me feel bad & I think I was in the wrong for reaching out to her. When I posted something sad this week. She messaged me the only time I posted about it. Like girl acting like she didn’t have other times to apologize if she wanted to rebuild the friendship. Nah I’m glad she cut the line first and that I found way better people
Wow. I had forgotten just how bad of a friend Dijonay really was 😂
She's worse in the reboot
Same
When Dijonay abandoned Penny with not only the twins, but all of her siblings, to go to a concert, that was the tipping point for me. The fact that Penny still took her back as her friend really surprised me. Nowadays that would’ve warranted Dijonay’s character to either be written off or pushed back to secondary bc people now know we don’t have to keep our friend circles big just for the sake of saying we have friends. As a generation, we cut off family, friends, partners, even jobs that don’t work out for us to make room for bigger and better things. Maybe Penny should consider that.
I remember asking myself as a kid, "why is Penny friends with her!?" She was really mean, she always was flaking on her, she was creepy with sticky, there's no talking to her! She's gonna do what she's gonna do no matter who she hurts, or how she makes Penny feel! I wanna at least see how they became friends in the first place! Like if once dijonay did something really cool or sincere or solid for Penny when they were younger, something that would justify the amount of patience penny gives her. But I can't remember a single episode that redeems her character. She's basically Ponyhead from Star vs the forces of evil! I remember that the dijonay centric episodes were the ones that made me so frustrated I had to change the channel, cause who wants to watch penny keep getting walked all over by a "friend" that treats her like a used napkin!?
Thankfully the reboot has greatly improved Dijonay. Instead of being a backstabber, she's just a snitch (but not on Penny).
She did let her sisters steal Penny's uncle's car
She outed a married gay couple causing their children whom she is friends with to get bullied. Not much of an improvement
No it doesn't, she still the same...
@@petramoore9462 I only watched clips, but keep in mind one of those friends is the new guy who Dijonay replaced Sticky with, and she had the nerve to ask Penny to slide KG her phone number
@@emeraldparadox1001 she sucks
Dijonay is basically the black version of Dodie Bishop from As Told by Ginger. A false friend who will always stab Penny in the back whenever given the opportunity. It's a wonder why Penny and Ginger still hang out with either one of them.
Except Dijonay's mom wasn't a total Karen like Dodie's mom
YOOOO I was just about to say that she was conniving ASF
Wow. I just watched both shows, and you're absolutely right! Right down to having the same blonde hairstyle, they are pretty similar to each other in terms of personality and "friendship". I always hated Dodie too.
I know Dijonay is at the bottom of my list. I'll never forget the time she invited boys to Penny's sleepover, and got Penny in trouble, not the time she went to a concert and left Penny to babysit her siblings. It's clear, Dijonay only cares about what she wants, not who she hurts in the process.
It’s interesting/off putting that some shows in the 2000’s had the friends that make you wonder why the main characters hang out with them. Dijonay, Jake Spidermonkey from My Gym Partner’s a Monkey, Craig from Out of Jimmy’s Head, Gus from Robotboy, Patrick during SpongeBob’s seasonal rot. Maybe they saw Cartman from South Park be the same thing and thought they could do that too. The difference being that Cartman isn’t supposed to be in the right or rooted for most of the time and whenever he wins either Kyle or everyone else will be aware of how bad he is.
Not to mention Cartman would get what he deserved even if it was small.
At least Jake had the excuse of having a crush on Adam.....I think? That's how it came off to me with how flippant-yet-clingy he can be.
I disagree with you about Partrick. Spongebob and Patrick only got into spats on occasion.
Same with Eddy and Mandy.
Was Jake really that bad? Maybe Bloo I think could be better put in that list. Jake, at most, was mischievous
One of my biggest pet peeves with characters is when the writers makes them a horrible person but then tries to make you think they're a good person no matter what you say the character is still a horrible person don't make the audience think they're a good person they're not
Degrassi is guilty of this with several characters
I swear, Penny's bullies treat her better than her actual "friends" who would plot on her downfall while smiling in her face.
I could never get into this show. The way Oscar got treated was too extreme for me. I can't stand Suga Mama and how the show downplays the fact that she's an abusive parent.
As cool and as supportive a grandma she is to Penny, Suga Mama is a terrible mother to Oscar and Bobby (coddling him did not help much)! My guess as to why the rest of the family doesn’t call out Suga Mama for her mistreatment of Oscar is because they don’t want to deal with her when she’s mad.
Suga Mama reminds me of a character from King of the Hill. Cotton Hill was also a loving grandparent but an abusive parent to his son, Hank. Even as adults, Oscar and Hank both tried to gain their respective parent’s love and affection, but their parents constantly rejected them and refused to try and be better parents.
@@StarViewer68its a similar situation to Eustace from Courage the Cowardly Dog. Main reason he’s such a cranky guy in nearly episode is because of how he was treated by his entire family, especially the mom. His mother always compared him to his older brother (who never even appeared in the show) and constantly made fun of him. No matter what Eustace did, he could never earn his mother’s love or respect, and despite I kinda hate Eustace because of how mean and always bullying Courage, you understand a little better why he is the way he is.
I never watched a lot of the Proud Family to really see how Suga Mama treated Oscar, aside bullying him to stop Penny from doing certain things with her friends.
Honestly, looking back at the Proud Family, it really does seem like everyone is just kind of a terrible person. Like, all of Penny's friends are absolutely fake as all hell, and the show still treats them like they're family to her. Penny's loyalty and trust in people who, time and again, verbally and emotionally abuse her make her come across as willfully naiive than a girl just learning how to get through life.
The only one out of Penny's friends that was the most loyal. (And it's a low bar to meet) was Sticky. But even he came off as rude or flaky at worst.
Proud family really played into the stereotype of the “dark” friend being ghetto loud struggling chubby and from a messed up home…….
Now this is what I like to call rasism
@@Chozen735 no, they’re absolutely right. They played into a really colorist stereotype for this character, which is why it’s so disappointing that she’s the most hated character. Just another reason to hate a dark skinned black girl. I really hope they do more with her character next season on the new show. I want her to be loved. I want her to be lovable.
@@trinityoneal4149 me to
@@trinityoneal4149if anyone hates dark girls because of her they just hate dark girls. She doesn't rep all of us so🤷🏾♀️
@@ShaiLaiExactly.
Honestly, I despise Dijonay in the OG (Same for Zoey and Lacienega, but honesty Lacienega is my most hated). While I personally think she got somewhat better in the revival (if you haven't seen episode 4, which was terrible and felt on the nose about its aesop) I really think she needs more character development and moments when she gets called out and learns a lesson
Zoey is the only one I like because she's the only one who didn't really do anything terrible to her. I mean, the worst she's done was leave her behind, but that's nothing compared to what Dijonay or LasCienega has done.
Also, episode four is genuinely a great episode because it did a good job with displaying the different reactions people can have when they find out about a same sex couple.
Aaaaaaand I'm not quite sure what Aesop has to do with this.
@@joelblake5310I think by Aesop, they meant like the moral. Cuz u know aesops fables always have a moral
She honestly gets SO MUCH WORSE in the 2 season (especially in episode 6, how she treats Zoe was so infuriating, I say the same for the rest of the group but she was the worst)
I have a episode idea for the reboot, where Penny finally realizes how horrible
Dijonay is and stop being friends, which starts a domino effect with people like Lasiniga
to realize how trash they've been treating Penny.
It always pissed me off that Penny had such a awful friend group
Dijonay kinda reminds me of Chloe Price from Life is Strange. A unlikable fake friend who we’re supposed to like because the main character is friends with them and the main character doesn’t confront them about their bad actions.
(And before you say it, because there’s always that ONE person who says it, NO! I don’t hate Chloe because she’s LGBT, I hate Chloe because she’s a terrible person who does awful things.)
Oh she is just the worst
Manga Kamen did a video comparing Akiza to Chloe. It's pretty good
One example of the bad things she does from my memory is telling her step dad that the pot she had was Max’s pot. Didn’t even hesitate to pin the blame on her bestie. Even if you do go with it it gives the step dad something to counter her when you tell the principal about what he did earlier. Which was harassing one girl possibly thinking she was a delinquent.
Woah sadly i only got to play episode 1 of life is strange. How bad did chloe become and why did she mistreat max :(
homophobe
Good video. Dijonay got worse in louder and prouder. They turned her into a snitch and basically put her friends under the bus.
I mean to be fair she at least doesn't throw penny under the bus constantly.
Instead she's a gossip thot who spreads shit around like wildfire
Nothing new lol, she's always been like that
Speaking of which, I hope the reboot can dive into Oscar's history more. Granted, it's stated Suga Mama's harder on him due to him having a better chance than Bobby but where did she get to thinking that? Was it before or after the death her husband? And was Proud Snacks really an old family recipe Oscar learned from his dad but just has difficulty replicating it?
Damn...please. I love Oscar, he reminds me a lot of my dad as well. I wanna learn more!
Yesss 🥹
Kinda weird since (in the reboot) Bobby told Penny he went to college and became drum major. It’s highly unlikely Bobby’d be allowed to even audition for such a role until his 3rd year, so he clearly had good enough grades to get that far.
I'd really hope Oscar and his mom somewhat improve their relationship because that is a trait of the original that still bothers me. His own mom I don't think ever cut him slack unless it's an episode I missed.
Its kind of strange to realize now of how shows we used to cherish as kids back in the 2000s and thought was funny, to now today was really actually gave bad lessons and role models, themes and really just toxic relationships and characters.
I was very young in the early 2000s (when a lot of tween shows were already wrapping up production), but even when I was too young to actually get it, the very few times I saw it on tv, something felt VERY off - like a lot of the shows had the mean 'best friends' that the main protag hang out with for SOME reason and always getting screwed over by said 'besties', like I didn't get great vibes from it so I didn't grow up with it. Thank god too because I was easily impressionable and would had thought "guess that's how (girl) friendships worked, take all the trash they hurl at you and just deal with it!" Doesn't help that if you see today's shows and how they write their characters and the consequences they gotta face (e.g Amphibia, Gravity Falls, etc.), you kinda realise how the morals and character writing did NOT age well for shows like this 😅
Like yeah, lots of people will defend the show and say "yeah they're not meant to be flawless, it's a realistic outlook on friendship!", like in that case, I'd rather be friendless than deal with Penny's friends. Like I like flawed characters as much as the next guy, but they had all crossed the line of being unlikeable and "why should I care if they get hit by a truck?" Plus, if they want realism so badly, Penny would had eventually snapped and dumped them for good, people in real life have limits too.
@@jessoliveiro8975 yeah and very well said, I am glad I'm not the only one who has been bamboozled by this type of programming of writing, especially shows have been shown on Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and Disney Channel with a very similar writing formula.
LaCienega? Improved? Now that's a laugh.
She hasn't gotten to be any less of a jerk than she was in the original.
She actually got somewhat better in later seasons, but the reboot, she is so much worse.
Zoey is honestly the best friend penny could ever have. She could never do what dijonay and lacieniga really go out of way to do!
Zoey is the least awful of the friend group. That being said I wish she grew a spine because she does ditch penny to be a part of dijonay and lacieniga.
@@moondivine2288 true!
The LIES!!!! Zoey is not a loyal friend. She's just the nicest on a surface level.
@@fyecarmel2012 good point.
Sure but she also abandons Penny to go with he crowd
I was pretty bummed that the new character in the reboot, Maya, is also mean to Penny. Like I was REALLY hoping that at least one character in Penny's friend group was actually nice to her -- but no, she turned out to be just as bad as Lacienega. In the Influencer episode, yes, Penny's power went to her head but damn I would be exactly the same because being constantly put down by "friends" and finally getting people to agree with my opinions/views was a breath of fresh air. I just wanted Maya to finally be the one female character in the show to actually have a good friendship with Penny -- like you said, Dijonay is not loyal, Lacienega was never nice and even worse in the reboot, Zoey couldn't ever think for herself and often went with the other girls' opinions. My goodness I feel so bad for Penny
I have not seen the Reboot, but judging the videos I saw on TH-cam, it's safe to assume I dislike Maya.
The thing is… you aren’t SUPPOSED to like Dijonay. She is supposed to be like Daffy Duck where she is an absolutely terrible person and you wanna see her get comeuppance. Having her be that one friend that constantly stabs Penny in the back wouldn’t be such a bad thing, if she ever actually got what was coming to her. If you want Penny to have a horrible friend we already have LaCienega Boulavardez. She is absolutely PERFECT at this! It helps she usually gets knocked down all the time. And the main reason Penny even hangs out with her is because they’re neighbors and because Suga Mama wants Papi like water in the desert…
Like water in the desert 😂😂😂😮💨
That's the thing too! Daffy always got his commupance, which made him a fun comic relief.
Hey, don't insult Daffy Duck!
but i like daffy duck 😭
The problem is she is really annoying. Yes she was made to be unlikable but such character still mostly entertain audience but all you want from Dijonay that she will just disappear forever. She is too bad and disgusting especially when no one really call her awful actions out
You know it's bad once the actual antagonists of the show (the Gross Sisters) are better friends to the main character than her actual friends 💀
Her hair is built like a Hershey's Kiss.
Nah her hair is built like a crusty yellow onion
I was thinking more of an onion
I thought it looks like an onion or a bulb of garlic
We all hate Dijonay. I'm glad she exists as an example of someone no one should act like!
Dijonay is the friend I’d probably dump after the first three months of “friendship” because that’s the selfish toxicity that no one needs. Like for the life of me I still can’t understand why she was written this way…honestly
really, months?
@@axx012 I’m a forgiving person with a short fuse
@@sayadiva123 If your fuse is so short, why would it take three months? Why not shorter? You're not making any sense on this.
Frankly, each of the girls is kinda toxic. Especially in the remake. I watch it to see what train wreck of a plot they create.
FYI, Penny’s pretty selfish.
Tbh, Penny can be a little toxic at times which are pretty rare but that doesn’t justify her personality at ALL! She has heart and she cares about others. Anyone would love to have a friend like Penny.
@@nathansaintus9927 Actually she only cares about the people she knows. She literally took Myron's glasses as if he didn't matter in the second episode.
Edit: Also, having toxic friends around is a choice she makes. I don't know why, but she does. That should be considered.
@@azazelgrigori9244 Tbh I think you have a point because she was never nice to Myron, but that’s the only person I’d consider her being toxic to. I remember watching the OG series she was pretty mean to him, in fact she still is.
@@nathansaintus9927 In my life time, I've learned some very harsh lessons. One of which being "While humans ARE capable of compassion and kindness, it's generally localized to those they're close to or relate to." Meaning Myron is outside of any circle Penny, or the general main cast, really care about.
To be honest, this isn't uncommon. Much of the media is very conservative (not in a political way). Meaning it keeps to certain tropes and cliches so long as they bring in ratings. One of which is making fun of nerds. Nerd characters are either walking punching bags, unwilling lackies, or people who are just naturally the subject of abuse.
Like with anyone, Penny plays favorites with who's problems she cares about. This isn't a bad thing, but the show loves to make her out to be the righteous do-gooder. However, some of the issues of the show are her fault. Hell, if it weren't for Penny, Miss Hill would've not been fired and homeless. Course with how she abused the Prouds who took her in, I would've had her arrested. And that's another topic to get into.
Never understood the culture shock between Penny's friends and the fans when you got the social circle of Homer Simpson, Adam Lyon, and Arnold Shortman to reflect on.
And yet In worst episodes let alone the recent reboot *STILL* forces us *Including* Penny to feel sorry fro her and yet Dijoany still gets away with. She's still making Ponyhead look tolerable by comparison.
I feel like Dijonay influenced Ponyhead's character some.
@@Nakia11798 Plus the fact they had to add Snooki to the mix due to the way way talks, but wouldn't be too surprised.
Man, I can't stand ponyhead
@@KingNexusMOCs Ugh! Tell me about It!
At least ponyhead fulfilled that bratty shallow princess trope and actually stood up and fought for Star unlike dijonay to Penny. Jenny slate just makes ponyhead unbearable to stand in any scene.
Dijonay is right up there with that Dodie from As Told by Ginger to me. She'll give a lot of appearances that she's the main character's closest companion, but constantly turn around and screw them over when doing so best suits them. God, I actually hate Dodie more because she's shows all the negative traits of Dijonay and Pettigrew, but none of Pettigrew's cleverness or Dijonay's... I don't know, way with words? And no, I don't just mean the poetry episode, the jackass had to be saying something right to keep Penny forgiving her all the damn time.
yes! I was thinking of Dodie too, the sort of friend where with friends like that you don't need enemies. *goes to see if anyone's talked about As Told by Ginger*
Yes if memory serves Dijonay does have a way with words that a gullible thirteen-year-old like me would have bought when I was a younger kid.
I mean as long as she's SORRY, that's all that matters right?
@@lavenderflowersfall280 How sorry can somebody be if they keep doing the same thing they're supposedly sorry for? The problem with Dijonay is that she never learns and makes effort to improve herself. Or that Penny never holds her feet to the fire and demand that she do better.
Zoey is the good friend because she asked her aunt for the outfits of LPDZ
I remember I saw an episode, way back in the day. DD really screws Penny over and Penny is actually mad at her, which was great. But by the end Penny forgives and basically says 'I trust you to not have my back ' and I was left confused why they kept hanging with them after that.
yet somehow the show thinks she's a "good friend".
Oh no. The show KNOWS she's a bad friend. They just don't care.
Sugar mama commented on Dijionay being a bad friend. They KNOW 🤣
@@HawtyHaven facts
She's as much as bitchkuguo is
If I were Penny, I would have ditched Dijonay as quick as episode 1. And if she tried to get back to, I would chew her out on everything she did and say, "Get a life."
There were A lot of shows in the late 90's and 2000's where one of the friends is absolutely horrible, while the other one is a pushover that just takes the stuff that is thrown at them by the other: Dijonay from this show, Lu from Mike Lu and Og, Sam from Danny Phantom, Bloo from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, Gus Turner from Robot Boy, Jake Spidermonkey from My Gym Partners a Monkey, Lily from Kappa Mikey, Craig from Out of Jimmy's Head. I could go on
Sam wasn't horrible
@@trelonmcmorris5109 She tended to be insufferable most of the time. Like that episode where she replaced the school lunch menu with an "ultra-recyclo-vegan" diet...with only HER input.
@@mitchfletcher2386 and didn't she end up summoning the lunch lady because of it?
@@mitchfletcher2386 and don't forget the disaster that was Phantom Planet
Bloo did start off with having his moments of being a good friend to Mac, but I do think that the writers kinda lost track of his character in the later seasons.
List on things that Dijonay is the worst friend to others:
1. She's a big gossiper
2. She's a doublecrosser
3. A tattle tailler
4. Not good at keeping secrets
5. Not knowing that Sticky her former boyfriend doesn't like her one bit
Like sticky literally escaped by moving to China penny shouldn't have lied about what was on the letter she should have told her sticky was talking about you he left because he was tired of your stalking
The really fucked up part is how the writers for the show never paint Dijonay Jones in the light of being a terrible person like she is.
What kind of message are you sending kinds when you say "be terrible to your friends and others, and there will be no consequences", why would you have that be the message of your show!?!?!?
The difference with Sonic and Amy's dynamic is there is a character arc or writers knowing how to handle character dynamics. It's also been hinted multiple times that Sonic has mutual feelings for Amy.
Sonic is perfectly fine being in Amy's presence now and invites her to come along adventures. Amy is now less expressive about her love for Sonic. You can tell that these two are genuine friends.
I thought it was confirmed by the creator of Sonic he doesn’t have feelings for Amy, its an unrequited love and he only sees her as a friend.
To be honest her character design is terrible too. Her haircut is a disaster and there is something wrong with clothes too
She doesn't have a really wealthy family! So that might be connected to her design
She's a hood chick, have you never seen one with their gut hanging out?
Definitely was annoyed that the show kept trying to tell us we like her even tho she's the worst
Like Logan Paul
She is basically a walking "with friends like those, who needs enemies?"
This actually reminds me of the trope of the parents that are awful or unsupportive of they’re kids that you see with Buck Cluck from Chicken Little. It’s especially bad there because Buck keeps on being a bad father right up until he has to have his change of heart for plot convenience, he is not given any sympathetic reason why he treats his son like that, and he’s not supposed to be the villain of the movie either. I’d argue that Judy Hobbes’ parents from Zootopia also apply to my argument, especially on points 2 and 3.
Or they can be neglectful
Looking at you Pop from Happy Tree Friends
Parents As People or Adults Are Useless?
@@Vigriff No that’s not what I’m saying at all. Parents do have a VERY big role to play in society, which is why I can’t stand that trope.
@@karsperry2464 Sorry, spent too much time on TV Tropes.
@@Vigriff it’s fine
Dijonay literally outed Maya and KG’s dad in the new proud family and there is no consequence for it!
The people like friend group on the proud family were the reason I didn’t get into any “friend groups” in grade school. The kind of folks you put up with in elementary and middle school but by the time you get to Highschool you start distancing yourself from. I became friends with a “Zoey” who tried to indoctrinate me into her friend group, but she ended up distancing herself from them right along with me. We still cool to this day.
Dijonays character is like that one friend that you realize isn’t really your friend and is actually really toxic. She even looks like how they usually do. I think the most realistic development would be that Dijonay becomes the antagonist after Penny tries to cut ties. That’s usually how it goes irl
I never thought I'd find someone so enthusiastic about Dave the Barbarian. It was a really good show and one of my favorites when I was super young
I'm glad somebody speaking about toxic friendships that go on in this damn show I mean it may have passed "for normal" in the early 2000s but in this day and climate is just downright disrespectful and disgusting.
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that couldn’t stand her. She was such a jerk😖🤦🏾♀️
I always hated Dijonay, because I knew people like this, and it hurts to be in a relationship with this sort of toxic people, I would rather get punched by a bully, than have a friend like Dijonay.
I hated her when I watched the OG show. I do watch the reboot and I do not think she got any better. She promised two separate times to not tell a secret and both times told it and acted like she didn't. Spoiler when she got a homeless teacher fired she flat out acted like it was okay because it paid off her lunch bill and she has siblings. I do not think she will ever get better. We see over and over again she will happily leave Penny alone never having her back for even the most minor stuff, but then when things work for Penny she acts like she was there with her all along. I am not sure if the writers think they are showing 'the power of friendship bets everything' or if they are too lazy and having her be Penny's BFF makes the stories easier to work with. Really a lot of her friends are awful and I sometimes feel like Penny might be friends with them because she doesn't think she could make any that really like her. I am so glad Michael is in the main cast allowing Penny to have a real friend. He has been with her way more than the others.
Dijonay was one of the two reasons I could never get into "The Proud Family". The other reason was Suga Mama. I know, it is an established, popular character trope; but I always hated the "Mother that is hip and loved by all, except for her child (almost exclusively son) who she is almost exclusively mean to" character. It was the same with Mel's mother on the sitcom "Alice", Quark's mother on "Star Trek: Deepspace Nine", and so many other series. The mother is loved by all for being this quirky, rebel who inspires all those around her; except for her son (I'm sure there are daughter examples) who she treats like crap, except for maybe a few "You know, I love you" comments thrown in there. Even on "The Golden Girls", the relationship with Sophia and Dorothy constantly reminded us how much they love each other and will stand up for each other, no matter how much they may seem otherwise. This trope is especially bad in these cases where there is more than one child (usually another son), where they are not both treated the same, like this one. It always soured the pot for me.
At least in the Golden Girls, Sophia would stand up for Dorothy when she's unfairly treated, and shows they both do get along. Sophia also isn't known for being loved by everyone, as she's pretty crass to everybody she knows, and yet pulls through for them in unexpected ways. She redeems herself without detracting that she's this fierce old woman with a fist of iron and a heart of rusted gold.
And in almost all those cases the child being ridiculed has a perfectly fine life. Like the trope would be fine if the character getting ridiculed deserved it. Like Oscar has 3 kids, a wife, and lives in the suburbs; hell most people in the world would be proud of their child if they got to that point nowadays and Suga Mama acts like he’s in a $600 apartment with a singular air mattress. Not only is it undeserved, it’s just outright mean-spirited. Suga Mama feels outright abusive in those moments and they always make me cringe inside.
@@losercast3570 I agree 100%. The way she treats him, he could be a millionaire, and she'd be like, "Why aren't you a billionaire?".
That whole friend group was horrible. Penny had nothing but fake friends.
I think a way that Louder and Prouder could start to give Dijonay some growth is out right saying her role as an older sister. It’s obvious from that babysitting episode of the original show that she has a lot more younger siblings than Penny does, so what they could do is have Dijonay come out and tell her friends that the reason she craves attention is because her siblings get more of her parents and grandparents attention. It wouldn’t be much but it would be a start, at least.
Being named after a type of mustard is crazy💀
So ghetto and great
For a show that has characters like Wizard Kelly and the Gross Sisters who we can't hate despite their actions, characters like Al Rocker and Sista Spice. The most hated character in the show is one of the main characters in it, which is honestly deserved.
You know the worst part is that Dijonay is a slightly better friend to Penny in the new show, but they also made her an even bigger karma Houdini. TWICE she's gotten away with ruining a character's life and in both cases it somehow becomes Penny's problem. And the show doesn't treat it like Dijonay being so messy is a big deal and something she needs to learn to control. No, it's just treated like "Oh that's just Dijonay. She's so quirky. We'll let Penny clean up the mess she made."
this is prabably the best "Bad Character" video I've seen and it didn't even needed to be over an hour long video essay
Agreed with literally all the points. I always thought the rich girl was the worst since she always seemed to switch from "I'm your friend" to "I'm you enemy" and it started to confuse me. But I guess thats at least consistent. Makes me question why Penny stays around her but consistent. But for the "best friend" now it comes together.
Now you gotta make a episode over each of the friends XD maybe even the newest addition when it comes to the next series.
Let's be honest. Penny has the worst two friends while Zoey merely tags along to not be the outcast
I think that’s the point. U don’t know who your friends are at that age. If there was any developments it would be penny not being friends with her anymore.
There's something to be said about all of Penny's friends being bad friends to some degree (even Penny herself) but Dijonay is hands down the worse of them. Lacienega was at least honest in her dislike of Penny and was never her friend, plus her family was one of the best parts of the show, but Dijonay is a bonafide backstabber.
Admittedly it does lead to funny moments and I wouldn't mind that type of character being in the main cast if the show didn't bend over backwards to justify her being in the clique throughout the series with the "friends stick together" spiel. Like give her development, get her to experience some form of consequence, or have an episode where she gets dropped by Penny permanently, something to Dijonay rather than "loud-mouthed two face".
I keep saying that Penny's Theme Song is "Toxic" by Ukeboy!
Somehow, Dijonay being a horrible friend felt authentic to me. Like, teenagers really do have this proclivity towards chronic backstabbing, no matter how close they are. Lacienega felt authentic that way too. I mean, the bully/queen bee dynamic isn't as cliquey as it is in most other cartoons. Teenagers in real life will hang out and do everything together, even if they really hate each other. Yeah, Penny's squad might be ready to turn on her at a moment's notice, but as harsh and unpleasant as it comes across to us viewers, it's not totally off-base.
It's like the writers of the show. Do not know how friends are supposed to work
When I was younger and watching this show, I always wondered how Penny could easily forgive her friends for always screwing her over. Especially when they're as blatant as Dijonay..
I’m surprised that at this point Penny never broke up this „friendship” with that Judas…
-Penny has to watch the twins on the night of a concert
-Dijonay has to do the same
-Media says "many condiment-named siblings
Dijonay > Dijon mustard
How the fuck did I never notice....?
What the hell were her parents thinking?
I like the Proud Family but it bugs me how quick every character is to drop a friend or family member when it's inconvenient. I used to say I really wish Penny and Michael were closer friends in the old show cause he seemed different but in the new show they have him doing that "sorry Penny, but I'm out" thing everyone else does, though to a much lesser degree (so essentially he's Zoey, since she used to be SLIGHTLY more willing to back Penny than Dijonay or LaCienega, like she would but her conscience would hit her occasionally). I kinda like Dijonay though cause she's funny but she is definitely not a friend you'd want to be your friend cause she literally used Penny and schemed to trick her into babysitting her siblings.
Dont forget dijhonay playing victim in the poetry club episode in the og proud family,peny didn't even want to be there but dijhonay kept persistently telling her to come then gets mad when penny gets the spotlight sigh-_-
I sometimes think the show had a hard time juggling its morals. One episode that sticks in my mind is the one on music piracy where Penny gets attracted to a guy in some Matrix spoof where he teaches her on music piracy that ends up costing her and Dijonay jobs at a record store that gies out of business because of illegal downloads. Topical for the 2000's but I cant remember if the episode want to teach a lesson about the dangers of illegal downloads killing small businesses or not falling for the wrong guy
In one episode of the reboot, she legit ditches Penny for a guy she just met. When Penny gives her a gift that signifies their ‘friend-iversary’, she complains about it towards her bf and says that they can replace the picture of her and the one with ‘the giant forehead’. Then when Penny laments, Dijonay just says she just ‘forgot’ and they’re friends again.
… can Penny just start hanging out with the blue bullies instead?
It no wonder why suga mama dislike dijonay She usually comments on how she doesn't like Dijonay because of how two-faced selfish unreliable and backstabbing she is and how Penny shouldn't hang out with her. Considering the number of times Dijonay has ditched Penny and sold her out, Suga Mama is definitely not wrong in fact penny should have listen to grandmother and suger mama has told Penny at least twice that she needs to drop her as friend a long time ago which is understandable reason since Suga Mama rightfully warning Penny about Dijonay being a bad influence and shouldn’t be friend with her to begin with because how self-serving untrustworthy disloyal and toxic she is to penny
And then Dijonay got way worse in louder and prouder, as if that was even possible for her to get even a little worse, they found a way.
To be honest all Penny's friends even Zoey were fake.
Dijonay always gave me those bitter baby momma vibes
She's the main single reason why I never got into the show. The only thing I saw was her acting awful
Lmao I actually think Lacienega is the worst friend, purely because she knows she’s mean to Penny, she puts it on show for anyone to see, and will go out of her way to make Penny upset. Dijonay just comes off as narcissistic, like unaware of her shitiness
I agree. I've literally started calling her "the swamp" over how nasty she is
shes way better than dijonnay though
@@emerald4866 People really don't take in her home life. Dijonay has multiple siblings that I assume she has to take care of. Hence why she chills and thinks about herself when she's around Penny. There's only so much empathy a person can give. People think black women are supposed to just take it. Dijonay prioritizing herself during friendships is good. Only ride and die for your blood family.
Lacienega and Penny were never friends
@@guyfauks2576 Because LA is pretty she gets away with being mean? DJ is poor, she doesnt think she owes Penny anything
Sasuke: I am the worst kind of friend.
Griffith: Hear that idiot..
Dijonay: Noobs.
Peter Pettigrew: What cute they are..
Considering how Penny is still friends with these people, even after such a time lapse in the series, it makes you wonder if Penny’s part of the problem. She knows how toxic these friends are yet *still* hangs with them. Does she just like being used and abused?
don't lie, if you are a black person or grew up around black people
you know at least one Dijonay Jones
I had friends who if you gave them £5 to pick up a pack of skittles
you wouldn't get your skittles or your change
you'll just see them the next week and they will and they will act like nothing ever happened
I remember this kid called Josh who was my "friend" I turned my back and he stole my Pokemon sapphire and Pokemon fire red
I snapped, it wasn't one of my proudest moments but I literally hunted down his friends and made them tell me where he lives
then showed up outside of his house with a few people, I don't know how we got in
but he was sitting there begging for us to leave him alone
he offered me all his game
but my rampage ended, I said "just give me my stuff back" I took my games and went home without hurting him or damaging anything
after that he became super fake nice
La Cienega and Zoie are better friends to Penny. Not by much... but don't ACTIVELY screw Penny/use her.
I never like Dijonay as a character and that revival. Medicore at best is what I described that revival
I like the revival
@@donathan2933 well I can respect your opinion. Glad you enjoy it even though I don’t