My first 999 was a red neutralizer, I did this to get it with all the traits eventually it works (Ultimate Masterpiece, Superb Quality, Pro Perfection): Red Neutralizer (add fuel yellow) --> Alchemic Coal --> Red neutralizer Red Neutralizer (add fuel yellow) --> Pure Water --> neutralizers
Regarding the seeds, in addition to maxing outthe quality and effects, giving them the best traits (the rare 5-stars) will improve the quality of the traits the seeds create - including all the end-game traits that you can normally only get from late areas. I got Vorpal Blade, Untimate Power, Transcendent Mastery etc from these kind of seeds, while maxed-out seeds with lower tier traits didn't give those traits at all.
i know, however sophie 2 takes combinations to the next level, ultimate power can combine with quite alot of stuff and act as a general "upgrade" but there are a BUNCH of other combination traits aswell
Do you know how quality affect equipment or items? Is it affect effect and trait, or only affect certain effects but not trait, i definitely sure it doesn't affect trait tho, but how about effect? I did some testing but im confused af. For example, i have 999 alette weapon having skillful persistent and perfect skills. While max tip toe where it buff 50 SPD during Rain, but when i check it on the field it boost 200++, But when i craft 999 Ramizel weapon, similar traits, perfect skills replaced by awakened all stat boost, all max effect where one of it have increase 40%atk when snowy. But when i test it on the field it exactly give buff +40% atk increased. Wtf is this. Seems like no one able to breakdown it yet (searched on Google), and you did make videos about ultimate items and weapons, so im assuming you know how the mechanics work, i dont really want those videos since i want to discover the whole puzzle by myself, i just need some confirmation about the quality mechanic.
Also did some testing stacking skilful attack and persistent attack, but it gives only 60% additional damage, not 70% (40 persistent attack, 30 skilful attack) I tried to only use persistent attack on the same weapon and same effect, it only gives 30% additional damage while it should give 40% additional damage, is this some sort of bug or translation error?
I also created the same weapon but this time i only add skilful attack and it only gives 20% additional attack while its supposed to be 30%. If this just translation error, then why tf when i stack skilful attack and persistent attack, it giges 60% additional damage while its supposed to be 50% (if we assume its additive)
Ah after further testing, seems like the additional attack also varied by stability and not fixed, they treat it as if another hit, not just additional damage, kinda weird lol, why would additional damage also suffers from RNG stability when your main attack already suffered from it.
One thing im sure, quality affect equipment stat (trait exclude) Did a test, create a 999 yarn coat with no trait and 25 atk stat (moff cloth effect gives 10 atk, used 2 moffclothes), while equipped it gives 75atk, Create another yarn coat, with sll stat boost(15 all stat) +all stat charge (10 all stat) with same materials, total stat atk 50 (all stat boost+all stat charge + 2 moffclothes), but when equipped, it only gives 100 atk, which means, quality affect initial+materials stats, but not trait stats. Test it on 999 gnade ring, Power rune (default) gives 15 atk, ingot gives 10atk, all stat charge gives 10 atk, all stat boost gives 15 atk, total 50 atk, while equipped, increased 100atk. So i have a theory, only certain effect are affected by quality, additive raw stat effect is clearly affected, raw stat from materials and initial equipment is affected, raw stat from trait is not affected, multiplicative raw stat is not affected, i only able to assume that any similar multiplicative effect isn't affected as well, such as skill boost+%, crit rate+% or atk+% Im done with this bs testing
yes, its a hidden value that isnt shown on the item/weapon cards but if you make an item or weapon with 50 quality and then make the same thing with 999 quality the damage difference is quite huge
@@Primalliquid92 i hit 500 or 700 max and wondered why i dont hit good damage ... i need to redo all equipment's for the boss figh in very hard ... thank you
What to do after you get these items too 999? And how do you get end games traits? Just by the seeds? I’m trying to do it myself and it’s not producing the traits I need
@@Primalliquid92 An another question: How do lI keep the 999 quality for example a bomb?? Or the seeds also produce the 999 quality also?? Looking up specifics things for this game have been an headache for some reason. But, I do appreciate these guides.
So at end game, if wanna max all the effect, for the items ,better use Growlia catalyst over other catalysts? I been using Absopta and Storagia , so those two not good for it?
My first 999 was a red neutralizer, I did this to get it with all the traits eventually it works (Ultimate Masterpiece, Superb Quality, Pro Perfection):
Red Neutralizer (add fuel yellow) --> Alchemic Coal --> Red neutralizer
Red Neutralizer (add fuel yellow) --> Pure Water --> neutralizers
Regarding the seeds, in addition to maxing outthe quality and effects, giving them the best traits (the rare 5-stars) will improve the quality of the traits the seeds create - including all the end-game traits that you can normally only get from late areas. I got Vorpal Blade, Untimate Power, Transcendent Mastery etc from these kind of seeds, while maxed-out seeds with lower tier traits didn't give those traits at all.
But does it matter WHICH 5-star traits I put on the seeds, or will any 5-star traits due?
You’re my favourite creator for the Atelier series!
Wow, thank you!
Ultimate power is mechenic from lulua. It's a trait that don't have a power. it just for combine with another trait. To get Ultimate trait
i know, however sophie 2 takes combinations to the next level, ultimate power can combine with quite alot of stuff and act as a general "upgrade" but there are a BUNCH of other combination traits aswell
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Glad you enjoy it!
Do you know how quality affect equipment or items? Is it affect effect and trait, or only affect certain effects but not trait, i definitely sure it doesn't affect trait tho, but how about effect? I did some testing but im confused af. For example, i have 999 alette weapon having skillful persistent and perfect skills. While max tip toe where it buff 50 SPD during Rain, but when i check it on the field it boost 200++,
But when i craft 999 Ramizel weapon, similar traits, perfect skills replaced by awakened all stat boost, all max effect where one of it have increase 40%atk when snowy. But when i test it on the field it exactly give buff +40% atk increased. Wtf is this.
Seems like no one able to breakdown it yet (searched on Google), and you did make videos about ultimate items and weapons, so im assuming you know how the mechanics work, i dont really want those videos since i want to discover the whole puzzle by myself, i just need some confirmation about the quality mechanic.
Also did some testing stacking skilful attack and persistent attack, but it gives only 60% additional damage, not 70% (40 persistent attack, 30 skilful attack)
I tried to only use persistent attack on the same weapon and same effect, it only gives 30% additional damage while it should give 40% additional damage, is this some sort of bug or translation error?
I also created the same weapon but this time i only add skilful attack and it only gives 20% additional attack while its supposed to be 30%.
If this just translation error, then why tf when i stack skilful attack and persistent attack, it giges 60% additional damage while its supposed to be 50% (if we assume its additive)
Ah after further testing, seems like the additional attack also varied by stability and not fixed, they treat it as if another hit, not just additional damage, kinda weird lol, why would additional damage also suffers from RNG stability when your main attack already suffered from it.
One thing im sure, quality affect equipment stat (trait exclude)
Did a test, create a 999 yarn coat with no trait and 25 atk stat (moff cloth effect gives 10 atk, used 2 moffclothes), while equipped it gives 75atk,
Create another yarn coat, with sll stat boost(15 all stat) +all stat charge (10 all stat) with same materials, total stat atk 50 (all stat boost+all stat charge + 2 moffclothes), but when equipped, it only gives 100 atk,
which means, quality affect initial+materials stats, but not trait stats.
Test it on 999 gnade ring,
Power rune (default) gives 15 atk, ingot gives 10atk, all stat charge gives 10 atk, all stat boost gives 15 atk, total 50 atk, while equipped, increased 100atk.
So i have a theory, only certain effect are affected by quality, additive raw stat effect is clearly affected, raw stat from materials and initial equipment is affected, raw stat from trait is not affected, multiplicative raw stat is not affected, i only able to assume that any similar multiplicative effect isn't affected as well, such as skill boost+%, crit rate+% or atk+%
Im done with this bs testing
thank u sir
Do the traits on your gathering tools have any effect or are they just kinda there?
there just there, they serve no function
well, i still don't understand .... is the quality linked t better damage be it item or weapon ?
yes, its a hidden value that isnt shown on the item/weapon cards but if you make an item or weapon with 50 quality and then make the same thing with 999 quality the damage difference is quite huge
@@Primalliquid92 i hit 500 or 700 max and wondered why i dont hit good damage ... i need to redo all equipment's for the boss figh in very hard ... thank you
What to do after you get these items too 999? And how do you get end games traits? Just by the seeds? I’m trying to do it myself and it’s not producing the traits I need
traits are of course RNG, normally after 10 minutes of seed farming though you have the traits you need to combine into the endgame traits
@@Primalliquid92 An another question: How do lI keep the 999 quality for example a bomb?? Or the seeds also produce the 999 quality also?? Looking up specifics things for this game have been an headache for some reason. But, I do appreciate these guides.
Idk what's going on. after 12 minutes I still don't see anything 999 quality. Is this a je-baited video.
How to get the other two greenhouses? xD
So at end game, if wanna max all the effect, for the items ,better use Growlia catalyst over other catalysts? I been using Absopta and Storagia , so those two not good for it?
hi there I just rescued plachta how do I expand the elemental list my level is 67
you mean the grid? you need catalysts
Use the "submenu" action, you can see the control in the bottom right (on Primal's screen it's Triangle on Playstation).
Bro 5 minutes telling me what not to do and I gotta dip out man. Why would you spend half the video on irrelevant stuff man.