What I hate the most as a sapper main is the fact that most of the time in objective gamemodes im left to defend the barricades alone and that tip about the saber could make me suffer less but we all know most people will just ignore that tip and watch us sappers strugle cause the axe is slow asf
The spade with its lower damage makes you even more dependent on teammates to clear out the zombies when setting up and defending barricades. It also kinda takes longer to set up barricades with the entrenching mechanic.
Probably the most useful guide and entertaining to watch. Also do you mind doing officer next? Almost every officer i see doesnt know how to charge at the right time
officer isn't as complicated as seaman or line infantry pistol and DB pistol - snipe bombers brass pistol - mostly bombers and occasionally some shambler hordes, aim at head level officer's saber - stay on the frontlines all the time, both to build charge and because your gun isn't great anyway. only exception is when you need to take up bomber duty, like in catacombes. charge ability - use it when there are a lot of zombies or your team is being overrun. a lot of times "wasting" a charge by using it when it wasn't strictly necessary can still help with clearing an area with fewer casualties, like the copenhagen water bucket section
Very comprehensive guide, would recommend this to new players. Tho I would argue that the Pike allows you to safely clear zombies from a distance, especially if you’re low on health. It can also works when your Heavy sabre is in cooldown if u spot a runner coming near
@mcplayer8722 using both the heavy Sabre and Lance at the same time makes no sense to do. Lance can two shot pretty much any horde just like the heavy sabre. plus Lance is actually more dangerous to use than the heavy Sabre against a runner. This is because with the Lance it's hitbox is centered on the tip of the pike, with the rest just being extra length. The heavy Sabres entire length is it's hitbox and is both easy to use in 3rd and 1st person making it better for runners. Using the Lance in 3rd person is extremely difficult since you typically can't make out where the tip of the pike is sometimes causing you to miss. Also the heavy Sabre is easier to flick because it's entire length is it's hitbox, and with the Lance if you ever try to flick you have to make sure the tip hits all the zombies you are flicking towards. Lastly, to use the Lance the most effectively you have to be in first person. This is so you can see your pike and aim it towards zombies heads (similar to how you use bayonet for the musket) and to flick (if you even can). The MAJOR downside to this however is that it is hard to be aware of your surroundings in first person. 3rd person let's you see around more compared to first person letting you potentially see people grabbed or maybe a zombie behind you sneaking up on you. TL;DR Lance is more dangerous to use against runners, and it makes no sense to use both heavy Sabre and Lance at the same time.
@@phoenixboxer8231uno reverse disagree, use sabre. its so consistent, and heavy sabre's very slight swing speed decrease absolutely ruins my entire game. yes, that 0.07 seconds annoys me. though, if youre saying this to a noob, maybe use heavy sabre. although for myself, i will always use sabre. (also never use handaxe, its trash)
@@phoenixboxer8231 yeah, for me though, since i had about 200 hours of using sabre, i cannot even get used to heavy sabre. maybe i will try to adapt and not be the french in ww2.
Tip:You can use shove (only for carbine,axe or pick axe) to save your teammate while being grab and there a bomber next to him make sure timing the time bomber fire the barrel
Priority targets: Bombers, Igniters, (occasionally) Zappers S h o o t t h e m Stab everything else. This is mostly what you're expected to do if you have a gun. Some players might be a bit more lenient on you going gun only, but most will be kind of annoyed. (Acceptance increases the faster your reload.)* As for heavy weapons: Rifle, don't use it. You will almost never see a conga line of 11+ zombies in both objective and endless. You lose the bayonet (yes the heavy sabre exists, but the bayonet can get twice as many kills per charge due to the dmg bonus), and your reload, is, S O, S L O W . You can't even shoot bombers effectively due to it being, 14, FOURTEEN, ENTIRE, S E C O N D S. Your accuracy is also next to meaningless in terms of bomber shooting; the carbine's accuracy should be fine; you'll want to shoot the bombers closest to the barricades anyways. The pike... It's alright, but you can't deal with priority targets anymore. You can't shoot igniters or bombers. It's a powerful melee, but do you r e a l l y trust your teammates? The musket is good, just make sure to reserve shots for priority targets; those 10 seconds mean a lot. Bayonet is a neat melee, but tbh the lack of pierce is a pain for barricade defense and hordes. Charge + bayonet = horde clear (watch out for runners, bombers, and punches.) Carbine: Use it like an officer's pistol. If you see a priority target, shoot it, otherwise, do whatever. The bash is neat, but not very practical. (10 dmg per stun not per hit, too boot) You C A N do bash tech for barricade defense, but tbh, unless you're low on players or on high endless, just kill the zombies. It also won't pop bombers if you hit them, so make of that what you will. Just be careful on hardcore, this gun only deals 95. The db is nice; It's like a toned down carbine, but in exchange you get an extra shot. Firing one shot is like a slightly worse carbine; 85 dmg, 1 second longer reload, negligible accuracy hit. However, you have a second shot, that has the same damage, but is p e r f e c t l y accurate. Great for when there are 2 bombers, not in a straight line. Now, you could pray for your teammates to, a) shoot the other bomber, or b) not kill you as you bait the bomber. Or, you could... shoot both of em. The double shot is near useless, worse accuracy and all; but hey, if you feel like railing the Zapper with 170 damage that much faster, more power to you. Reloading both barrels is quite long though at 14(ish) seconds. But hey, 2 shots. 7(ish) seconds each. Again, watch out on hardcore. Low damage alert. Now melees: Sabre: It's great. Never use the up swing Downswing has 6 studs range, and faster swing speed. Side slashes get easy headshots. Just place your shoulder towards the zombie. Hand axe: Great. Faster swings, slightly shorter range. The upswing is actually pretty good for headshots. (Turn on arm transparency if first person) It is harder to save teammates that get tackled in hordes or grabbed though. Shorter range and wacky hit box.* "Zappers are pain now." (Pulls out gun*) Heavy sabre: Go watch the video. D leg: Don't use. E v e r.
Honestly a well deserved pinned comment. You went over it better than I did! Edit: I have heard you guys in the comments by the way. I will change my opinion and say the rifle is probably better on hardcore for shooting hordes. However once again seeing a line of 10+ zombies is kind of rare on objective maps. On some endless maps this is more possible to see. However it losing its bayonet for a charge is devastating and could wipe out hordes in an endless or objective map if an officer used a charge compared to the rifles one shot.
Yeah i had to learn thay shit the hard way, thay rifle is probably my worst investment yet, like unless its endless on vardø where u can kinda sniper from the window of one of the buildings, it's pretty much useless, hell the reload time is so abysmal that I had just my one shot i get when I spawned in then its all sabre
@@ojasbaghel8535 May I introduce you to, the Henry Nock Volley gun? Sporting a whole 60 extra damage per shot and a reload, THREE SECONDS FASTER, you can get the rifle peirce at the cost of carbine accuracy. Hell, we'll even throw in some fancy movement tech while we're at it, go crazy.
A phenomenal guide. The sabre footage was crazy though, I usually rely on first person to hit headshots but that was just as consistent as pro bayonet footage. Though, I do disagree with the HAP being utterly useless, as it’s just a better DB, which has weaknesses easily covered by the heavy sabre. As a better DB, you’re able to pick more special zombies over time, and given how weak they are in health, aiming for the torso makes it quite easy to provide gun support for maps that regularly spam bombers and igniters in their finales. For the next class to do… Seaman’s a good choice. I don’t exactly know what else you can do with it. It just seems to be a handcannon class that specializes in creating my holes in hordes, but maybe there is more to it than what meets the eye.
When using the regular saber/sabre, I recommend swinging it sideways when aiming at any number of zombies, especially when there's more than one, also, when using melee weapons, always aim for headshots when possible, as they deal way more damage that way.
This is situationally dependent. I do know I said in the video to prioritize down swing, but your right swing hits headshots way more often and clears hordes way faster. As long as you understand the reach of a zombies grab you can wipe hordes out way faster with side swinging compared to down swinging.
@carking0138 sorry I was responding to catfacecat not you. I was trying to say that the regular sabres right swing is situational and sometimes its better to understab, and sometimes its better to side swing to deal more damage.
I use the "support" line infantry sub-class, using carbine and heavy saber to keep the frontlines safe and keep the team from being grabbed. While the carbine shove only hits 3 zombies at a time, you can rapidly spam it wherever the zombies are bunched up to get pressure off zapper buildings, save pinned allies, and hold zombies in place for easy headshots. The quick-firing of the carbine also helps handle closer bombers once you've shoved the zombies pinning the ally near said bomber away. The heavy saber is mostly there for the charge, but the slow on side swings and high damage on thrusts make it an excellent tool for handling tankier zombies like zappers that you can't shove.
Pro tip: when you hit a shambler there's a small time-frame where the shambler can't grab you only damage you, the time-frame is only about half a second but it might sometimes save your life. And another tip: when you see a runner running at you but you can't take out your saber in time just jump over him, it doesn't work everytime but when it works it might just give you enough time to take out your saber and kill the runner.
Just dodge them. Runners are pathetic and predictable, they have "charge" system when they're becoming faster for a small time and they changing their direction, but you still can just circle them. Also, runners have actually attack system with it's own cooldown. I mean, if you will circle runner and while circling him you will come to close, he will attack you(no animation) if you don't dodge it, you will ofc die, but if you do, then runner's atack will get cooldown (about 1 second) and he can't grab you before cooldown will end. So, runners not only predictable and easy to evade, they're also have cooldown system that won't let you die even if you do mistake while circling him(I have 360 hours in gnb, and i wasn't caught by runners idk about 10 hours rn)
Just dodge them. Runners are pathetic and predictable, they have "charge" system when they're becoming faster for a small time and they changing their direction, but you still can just circle them. Also, runners have actually attack system with it's own cooldown. I mean, if you will circle runner and while circling him you will come to close, he will attack you(no animation) if you don't dodge it, you will ofc die, but if you do, then runner's atack will get cooldown (about 1 second) and he can't grab you before cooldown will end. So, runners not only predictable and easy to evade, they're also have cooldown system that won't let you die even if you do mistake while circling him(I have 360 hours in gnb, and i wasn't caught by runners idk about 10 hours rn)
A good thing about the carbine is its shove, which can stop runners from grabbing you, which is kind of op because you can then shoot them or stab them
Here is some things for mobile players to note during my own experience as a mobile player. The musket: good weapon for mobile players but the bayonet is extremely complicated to use especially in first person mode and its only recommended to use it when charging. Though if you wanna put the training into it go for it its gonna take a lot. Carbine: this is a mobile players best friend due to the price being so cheap. Despite the bashing being situational. The quick reload speed and lack of movement speed penalty allows you to be more aggressive and mobile. This weapon pairs extremely well with the heavy saber as an alternative charge option. In hardcore this weapon is more limiting only making it reliable for bombers and igniters. Also keep in mind of the accuracy and get as close as you need to to be as accurate as possible remember this is a mobile moving weapon. Pike: DO NOT USE THE PIKE. The lack of movement speed and our own shift lock controls are severely complicated to use. I see most pike users get their health drained quickly out of any soldier in mobile servers. Its gonna take work to be decent at it. Horse artillery rifle: nothing wrong with 2 barrels just keep in mind of the inaccurate one which is the first shot. Utilize it against bombers. Falls off at killing zombies in hardcore unless u shoot both at the same time. Rifle: it just acts like a degraded musket. If you want to get the most use of it though just use it in hardcore. The damage allows it to one shot most foes and can be a option for tough zapper sniping. Melees Saber: side and underswings recommend do not do overswings. This weapon is simple to use. Heavy saber: the overhead is more useful in mobile especially for players u suffer slight lag can suffer delayed jumps for accurate headshots. The overhead is a more simpler way for mobile to effectively headshot enemies. Underswing has a long hit box so swipe your screen around when stabbing to hit as many as you can and keep an eye on your movements Small axe: good weapon just a little more risky due to the range being small.
If you know how to flick with the heavy sabre, the up swing is 100x better than the downswing. You can take out 3 zombies with one swing, as well as letting you do twice your damage to zombies you don’t kill.
I was going to go over this in the video but I decided it might be a bit too frustrating or complicated to teach players. so I opted for an easier way with the down swing however I 100% agree with you.
@@phoenixboxer8231ive made wayy too many replies, but: isent this the ULTIMATE guide to line infantry in guts and blackpowder? i would consider heavy sabre upswing headshots as ULTIMATE. edit:excuse me for my trash spelling "lihe" "sagre"
Line infantry play styles: Passive: Don't get grabbed and only stab when you ABSOLUTELY need to like runners Hit N Run 《requires carbine》Shove, Use melee, and back. Absolute: Risk your life to kill using Bayonet
who would even play passive..? im a mix of hit n run and absolute risk. i always just charge at everything and when im low on hp i shoot, come in for a few sweeps, and repeat.
hello I have been playing G&B for a year now and I have been using the rifle since its release, it is not the best weapon but it is a very good weapon to snipe enemies from afar and its really fun to shoot a zapper at point blank range. Everyone should know by now that if you use the Rifle, carbine or horse artillery pistol you should have the heavy saber as a good offensive weapon as a alternative to the musket. The rifle is a good weapon and it can be compared to the musket in its usefulness.
If you learn the sabre you learn the fundamentals of all melee in the game. They all swing roughly the same. Smash your shoulder into a zombie for a side swing headshot. Overheads all land in the same spot. Jabs have roughly the same sweet spots for headshots in first person.
Back then when first playing GnB line infantry was my main and i really love the stock combo: musket + sabre (musket have bayonet so you can charge and reach zombies further, this is my main melee. And sabre is when i need to fight or save teammates from a horde of zombies). But i gave up after a few times i failed to shot bombers which were moving side way toward my teammate (instead of straight toward me, in my POV) and it killed my teammate, or in many situation that require a quick aim (i aim so slow), i realized i cant fully utilize the musket. So now to me the lance is just heaven (You can hit zombies through wall with it and it can also hit mutil zombies comparing to only one at a time like the bayonet, and even melee bomber in some extreme cases and only take a few damages).
All weapons in the game are NOT totally USELESS or powerful, it depends on how u define them and how u can utilize them. They're all well balanced unless they haven't been acknowledged by the developers if they're not used much. The rifle is useful in certain maps such as copenhagen and vardohus (objective) as some areas are intended to be designed for long range weapons to burst down. It's mainly recommended for hardcore as it can bypass sapper's bullet resistance and the rifle is mostly used to kill zappers. The lancer class may weaker than the heavy sabre, but it WILL get a buff as the developers have acknowledged it's weakness like the slowness. The lancer class does well against poking and is most effective against a crowd.
so im a both mobile and pc player for guts and blackpowder. now im not 100% sure but im probably the best mobile movement player cuz today, ive been playing san sebastian (in hardcore) and i was the last one alive and to make it worse I WAS THE ONE DOWN WHERE THE HAY BALE WAS! so i was super worried that i will die but i somehow survived for about 12 minutes now i was stuck on the edge but i have good movement if i say it myself. i mean, I can do what a pc speed running player can do. literally but movement is the only thing im good at so ye i gotta be lucky to actually "survive"
Man, Lance is still usefull. 3-4 people with lance on tight spot is like a phananx - a wall of spears strong enough to block the horde, while everyone else are taking care of the bombers and other special zombies.
Good video, but I would've preferred if you emphasized the aspects of charging with the musket vs. heavy sabre and the qualities of HAP (it put me off from the start because of the inaccurate right barrel, never used it).
Respectively, I disagree with your opinion on the rifle. It’s really good on Coffengangin or however, you spell it and I like it most out of all the weapons considering the fact it does more damage so it’s better on hard-core and penetration difference doesn’t seem like a lot until you actually use it in the four second difference of the reload speed is noticeable, but it’s not bad so yeah, respectively, I disagree with your opinion
Rifle is useful on hardcore because of the extra damage and ignores the headshot resistance of sappers. BTW THERE IS NO REASON TO USE IT ON CASUAL DUE TO THE REASONS YOU STATED.
I chose heavy saber because it can one shot zombie in torso so I can don't take hard DMG debuf with normal saber I think devs add pike to bugle users for balance
You can actually hit bombers/barrels with a lance and live if the hitbox of the lance is the tip of it I only use lance for pvp mode tho but i found it out one time
Amazing guide! I just wanted to ask, have you covered flicking? Its where you move your camera to an angle quickly to hit multiple zombies. And do you have a discord server? I’d gladly join.
Ima stop you at the rifle Rifle stats Damage: 195 highest per bullet in the game Range: 1500 studs highest in the game Reload: 14s which isnt that bad if you retreat before a reload Hidden stats: ignores zapper bullet resistance This means you can land collateral shots on zappers Its also very cheap at 400 francs Im gonna have to politely disagree with you on the rifle
Range is unnecessary and you never need more range than how much the musket has. The farthest you should ever have to shoot is in catacombs at the end. even then the musket does this fine. the damage and it going past zapper resistance is fine, but you can legit one or two tap most zappers with your bayonet or heavy sabre if you hit headshot making shooting a zapper kind of a waste. The gun reloads 4 seconds slower than a musket which doesn't seem like a lot at first and is probably the lesser of the downsides of the gun, but paired with all the other downsides rifle has compared to musket this actually becomes very significant. Lastly if you're constantly retreating into the backlines to have to reload because your gun reloads slow and it can only clear a LINE (not a group) of zombies, you're better off just meleeing and forget reloading. You can make the excuse of "Oh I snipe zappers" or "Oh I use it to snipe barrels" A. Zappers are easier to deal with at close range (IF YOU HAVE SPACE). B. Your gun reloads so slow its not worth using to take out barrels, instead use horse arty pistol or carbine for this. TL;DR The rifle no matter how you put it does not out class the musket at all. Also read the pinned comment for more info
im still going to buy rifle, remember carbine was the 1 of the worst gun in the game? now it got buffed alot. And i think rifle will be buff in the future
I agree with the rest of the video but the useless weapons I dont agree with as on some maps ig catacombs and tyroll rifle can be life saver with the one shot kills to sapper The lance is really good on Hougoumont and let farme because of the high platforms An important thing about the lance is it's range being able to kill bombers and sappers easier to kill because you Don't have to jump around the swings just walk backwards and stab
Rifle has neiche places where it's useful. On tyroll you don't really need rifle for sappers. The gun shoots slow enough for 1-2 more sappers (if you're unlucky) to just come barging right through after you shot the first zapper. Also not all zombies perfectly line up and make dealing with them a pain anyway. If you've used the rifle realistically, you'll realize you spend more time reloading than actually helping the team. 2nd, I actually agree with the lance. But giving up the firepower of a gun is very risky. If you like using the pike for endless because of its extended reach, more power to you. But know the pike has very neiche uses and usually does not out-class most guns.
When the axe is so good it doesnt need tips
Me with the pickaxe “you sure about that?”
@@Yo_bro_hows_your_lifei think hes talkin about the hand axe
Good point, I think that it is ok but some swear that it’s great, I prefer the normal saber or heavy saber.
@@Yo_bro_hows_your_life i agree. The heavy sabre kinda outclasses the hand axe now
I’m gonna be fr I’m in desperate need for tips on the hand axe I’m terrible at using it
Carbine + heavy sabre + regiment la dragons = historically accurate dragoon. Really fun to play.
What I hate the most as a sapper main is the fact that most of the time in objective gamemodes im left to defend the barricades alone and that tip about the saber could make me suffer less but we all know most people will just ignore that tip and watch us sappers strugle cause the axe is slow asf
I'm here for you man don't worry hmu
The spade with its lower damage makes you even more dependent on teammates to clear out the zombies when setting up and defending barricades. It also kinda takes longer to set up barricades with the entrenching mechanic.
Probably the most useful guide and entertaining to watch. Also do you mind doing officer next? Almost every officer i see doesnt know how to charge at the right time
Fr it is so infuriating
officer isn't as complicated as seaman or line infantry
pistol and DB pistol - snipe bombers
brass pistol - mostly bombers and occasionally some shambler hordes, aim at head level
officer's saber - stay on the frontlines all the time, both to build charge and because your gun isn't great anyway. only exception is when you need to take up bomber duty, like in catacombes.
charge ability - use it when there are a lot of zombies or your team is being overrun. a lot of times "wasting" a charge by using it when it wasn't strictly necessary can still help with clearing an area with fewer casualties, like the copenhagen water bucket section
You are so underrated, you need way more subs.
phonenix, your server in G&B is awesome and thanks for the vid ❤
Very comprehensive guide, would recommend this to new players.
Tho I would argue that the Pike allows you to safely clear zombies from a distance, especially if you’re low on health. It can also works when your Heavy sabre is in cooldown if u spot a runner coming near
@mcplayer8722 using both the heavy Sabre and Lance at the same time makes no sense to do. Lance can two shot pretty much any horde just like the heavy sabre. plus Lance is actually more dangerous to use than the heavy Sabre against a runner. This is because with the Lance it's hitbox is centered on the tip of the pike, with the rest just being extra length. The heavy Sabres entire length is it's hitbox and is both easy to use in 3rd and 1st person making it better for runners. Using the Lance in 3rd person is extremely difficult since you typically can't make out where the tip of the pike is sometimes causing you to miss. Also the heavy Sabre is easier to flick because it's entire length is it's hitbox, and with the Lance if you ever try to flick you have to make sure the tip hits all the zombies you are flicking towards.
Lastly, to use the Lance the most effectively you have to be in first person. This is so you can see your pike and aim it towards zombies heads (similar to how you use bayonet for the musket) and to flick (if you even can). The MAJOR downside to this however is that it is hard to be aware of your surroundings in first person.
3rd person let's you see around more compared to first person letting you potentially see people grabbed or maybe a zombie behind you sneaking up on you.
TL;DR
Lance is more dangerous to use against runners, and it makes no sense to use both heavy Sabre and Lance at the same time.
@@phoenixboxer8231 fair point, I might need to change my loadout. Or maybe I'm just too used using all melee lol. Thanks
@@phoenixboxer8231uno reverse disagree, use sabre.
its so consistent, and heavy sabre's very slight swing speed decrease absolutely ruins my entire game. yes, that 0.07 seconds annoys me.
though, if youre saying this to a noob, maybe use heavy sabre.
although for myself, i will always use sabre.
(also never use handaxe, its trash)
I feel like this is mostly a personal problem, I've never had heavy sabres slightly slower swing speed ever be a problem. Ever.
@@phoenixboxer8231 yeah, for me though, since i had about 200 hours of using sabre, i cannot even get used to heavy sabre. maybe i will try to adapt and not be the french in ww2.
Tip:You can use shove (only for carbine,axe or pick axe) to save your teammate while being grab and there a bomber next to him make sure timing the time bomber fire the barrel
But if you have equiped your sabré dont try to shove that takes more time and is useless
@@eze1196yeah switch to your carbine will take more time which is really risky if there bomber near
@@Randomguy0938 Though the shoves don't explode zombies so if you're quick enough you can save an ally.
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Seaman please
You should do priest
@@AdrielMedina-ju2vp ngl priest is my least favorite class. But I will make this.......eventually
Ig you should do seaman
Do sapper and officer plsssss😊
Priority targets: Bombers, Igniters, (occasionally) Zappers
S h o o t t h e m
Stab everything else. This is mostly what you're expected to do if you have a gun.
Some players might be a bit more lenient on you going gun only, but most will be kind of annoyed. (Acceptance increases the faster your reload.)*
As for heavy weapons:
Rifle, don't use it.
You will almost never see a conga line of 11+ zombies in both objective and endless.
You lose the bayonet (yes the heavy sabre exists, but the bayonet can get twice as many kills per charge due to the dmg bonus), and your reload, is, S O, S L O W . You can't even shoot bombers effectively due to it being, 14, FOURTEEN, ENTIRE, S E C O N D S.
Your accuracy is also next to meaningless in terms of bomber shooting; the carbine's accuracy should be fine; you'll want to shoot the bombers closest to the barricades anyways.
The pike... It's alright, but you can't deal with priority targets anymore. You can't shoot igniters or bombers. It's a powerful melee, but do you r e a l l y trust your teammates?
The musket is good, just make sure to reserve shots for priority targets; those 10 seconds mean a lot.
Bayonet is a neat melee, but tbh the lack of pierce is a pain for barricade defense and hordes.
Charge + bayonet = horde clear (watch out for runners, bombers, and punches.)
Carbine: Use it like an officer's pistol. If you see a priority target, shoot it, otherwise, do whatever.
The bash is neat, but not very practical. (10 dmg per stun not per hit, too boot)
You C A N do bash tech for barricade defense, but tbh, unless you're low on players or on high endless, just kill the zombies. It also won't pop bombers if you hit them, so make of that what you will.
Just be careful on hardcore, this gun only deals 95.
The db is nice; It's like a toned down carbine, but in exchange you get an extra shot.
Firing one shot is like a slightly worse carbine; 85 dmg, 1 second longer reload, negligible accuracy hit. However, you have a second shot, that has the same damage, but is p e r f e c t l y accurate.
Great for when there are 2 bombers, not in a straight line.
Now, you could pray for your teammates to, a) shoot the other bomber, or b) not kill you as you bait the bomber. Or, you could... shoot both of em.
The double shot is near useless, worse accuracy and all; but hey, if you feel like railing the Zapper with 170 damage that much faster, more power to you.
Reloading both barrels is quite long though at 14(ish) seconds. But hey, 2 shots. 7(ish) seconds each.
Again, watch out on hardcore. Low damage alert.
Now melees:
Sabre: It's great.
Never use the up swing
Downswing has 6 studs range, and faster swing speed.
Side slashes get easy headshots. Just place your shoulder towards the zombie.
Hand axe: Great.
Faster swings, slightly shorter range.
The upswing is actually pretty good for headshots. (Turn on arm transparency if first person)
It is harder to save teammates that get tackled in hordes or grabbed though. Shorter range and wacky hit box.*
"Zappers are pain now." (Pulls out gun*)
Heavy sabre:
Go watch the video.
D leg:
Don't use. E v e r.
Honestly a well deserved pinned comment. You went over it better than I did!
Edit: I have heard you guys in the comments by the way. I will change my opinion and say the rifle is probably better on hardcore for shooting hordes. However once again seeing a line of 10+ zombies is kind of rare on objective maps. On some endless maps this is more possible to see. However it losing its bayonet for a charge is devastating and could wipe out hordes in an endless or objective map if an officer used a charge compared to the rifles one shot.
Yeah i had to learn thay shit the hard way, thay rifle is probably my worst investment yet, like unless its endless on vardø where u can kinda sniper from the window of one of the buildings, it's pretty much useless, hell the reload time is so abysmal that I had just my one shot i get when I spawned in then its all sabre
@@phoenixboxer8231 thanks
@@ojasbaghel8535 May I introduce you to, the Henry Nock Volley gun?
Sporting a whole 60 extra damage per shot and a reload, THREE SECONDS FASTER, you can get the rifle peirce at the cost of carbine accuracy.
Hell, we'll even throw in some fancy movement tech while we're at it, go crazy.
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A phenomenal guide. The sabre footage was crazy though, I usually rely on first person to hit headshots but that was just as consistent as pro bayonet footage.
Though, I do disagree with the HAP being utterly useless, as it’s just a better DB, which has weaknesses easily covered by the heavy sabre. As a better DB, you’re able to pick more special zombies over time, and given how weak they are in health, aiming for the torso makes it quite easy to provide gun support for maps that regularly spam bombers and igniters in their finales.
For the next class to do… Seaman’s a good choice. I don’t exactly know what else you can do with it. It just seems to be a handcannon class that specializes in creating my holes in hordes, but maybe there is more to it than what meets the eye.
uhh..I never said the horse artillery pistol was useless...infact it's actually the gun I main on line infantry currently.
@@phoenixboxer8231 Oh. my bad. I think I fast forwarded a bit too fast on the useless weapons section lol
Been looking for guides and this gets recommended tyyy
When using the regular saber/sabre, I recommend swinging it sideways when aiming at any number of zombies, especially when there's more than one, also, when using melee weapons, always aim for headshots when possible, as they deal way more damage that way.
i have to disagree with this. you can uee lower swing and flick your mouse, it damages the most zombies, 3.
This is situationally dependent. I do know I said in the video to prioritize down swing, but your right swing hits headshots way more often and clears hordes way faster. As long as you understand the reach of a zombies grab you can wipe hordes out way faster with side swinging compared to down swinging.
@@phoenixboxer8231 Either I'm misinterpreting this, or you thought I was talking about the heavy sabre.
@carking0138 sorry I was responding to catfacecat not you. I was trying to say that the regular sabres right swing is situational and sometimes its better to understab, and sometimes its better to side swing to deal more damage.
@@phoenixboxer8231 Fair.
I use the "support" line infantry sub-class, using carbine and heavy saber to keep the frontlines safe and keep the team from being grabbed. While the carbine shove only hits 3 zombies at a time, you can rapidly spam it wherever the zombies are bunched up to get pressure off zapper buildings, save pinned allies, and hold zombies in place for easy headshots. The quick-firing of the carbine also helps handle closer bombers once you've shoved the zombies pinning the ally near said bomber away.
The heavy saber is mostly there for the charge, but the slow on side swings and high damage on thrusts make it an excellent tool for handling tankier zombies like zappers that you can't shove.
Pro tip: when you hit a shambler there's a small time-frame where the shambler can't grab you only damage you, the time-frame is only about half a second but it might sometimes save your life.
And another tip: when you see a runner running at you but you can't take out your saber in time just jump over him, it doesn't work everytime but when it works it might just give you enough time to take out your saber and kill the runner.
Just dodge them. Runners are pathetic and predictable, they have "charge" system when they're becoming faster for a small time and they changing their direction, but you still can just circle them. Also, runners have actually attack system with it's own cooldown. I mean, if you will circle runner and while circling him you will come to close, he will attack you(no animation) if you don't dodge it, you will ofc die, but if you do, then runner's atack will get cooldown (about 1 second) and he can't grab you before cooldown will end. So, runners not only predictable and easy to evade, they're also have cooldown system that won't let you die even if you do mistake while circling him(I have 360 hours in gnb, and i wasn't caught by runners idk about 10 hours rn)
Just dodge them. Runners are pathetic and predictable, they have "charge" system when they're becoming faster for a small time and they changing their direction, but you still can just circle them. Also, runners have actually attack system with it's own cooldown. I mean, if you will circle runner and while circling him you will come to close, he will attack you(no animation) if you don't dodge it, you will ofc die, but if you do, then runner's atack will get cooldown (about 1 second) and he can't grab you before cooldown will end. So, runners not only predictable and easy to evade, they're also have cooldown system that won't let you die even if you do mistake while circling him(I have 360 hours in gnb, and i wasn't caught by runners idk about 10 hours rn)
0:25 rip priest bro 😂
A good thing about the carbine is its shove, which can stop runners from grabbing you, which is kind of op because you can then shoot them or stab them
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i mostly just play aggressively regardless what class i use (expect for drum and fife)
Oh nah bruh I be rushing while playin the bagpipes
Here is some things for mobile players to note during my own experience as a mobile player.
The musket: good weapon for mobile players but the bayonet is extremely complicated to use especially in first person mode and its only recommended to use it when charging. Though if you wanna put the training into it go for it its gonna take a lot.
Carbine: this is a mobile players best friend due to the price being so cheap. Despite the bashing being situational. The quick reload speed and lack of movement speed penalty allows you to be more aggressive and mobile. This weapon pairs extremely well with the heavy saber as an alternative charge option. In hardcore this weapon is more limiting only making it reliable for bombers and igniters. Also keep in mind of the accuracy and get as close as you need to to be as accurate as possible remember this is a mobile moving weapon.
Pike: DO NOT USE THE PIKE. The lack of movement speed and our own shift lock controls are severely complicated to use. I see most pike users get their health drained quickly out of any soldier in mobile servers. Its gonna take work to be decent at it.
Horse artillery rifle: nothing wrong with 2 barrels just keep in mind of the inaccurate one which is the first shot. Utilize it against bombers. Falls off at killing zombies in hardcore unless u shoot both at the same time.
Rifle: it just acts like a degraded musket. If you want to get the most use of it though just use it in hardcore. The damage allows it to one shot most foes and can be a option for tough zapper sniping.
Melees
Saber: side and underswings recommend do not do overswings. This weapon is simple to use.
Heavy saber: the overhead is more useful in mobile especially for players u suffer slight lag can suffer delayed jumps for accurate headshots. The overhead is a more simpler way for mobile to effectively headshot enemies. Underswing has a long hit box so swipe your screen around when stabbing to hit as many as you can and keep an eye on your movements
Small axe: good weapon just a little more risky due to the range being small.
If you know how to flick with the heavy sabre, the up swing is 100x better than the downswing. You can take out 3 zombies with one swing, as well as letting you do twice your damage to zombies you don’t kill.
I was going to go over this in the video but I decided it might be a bit too frustrating or complicated to teach players. so I opted for an easier way with the down swing however I 100% agree with you.
@@phoenixboxer8231ive made wayy too many replies, but:
isent this the ULTIMATE guide to line infantry in guts and blackpowder? i would consider heavy sabre upswing headshots as ULTIMATE.
edit:excuse me for my trash spelling
"lihe" "sagre"
The problem is that I have not mastered this yet. So if I were to go over it, I would be really sloppy and probably have to do dozens of retakes.
As some who loves playing as infantry my best tip is to melee barrels 🤑😁👍
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melee them with sabre and survive*
Line infantry play styles:
Passive: Don't get grabbed and only stab when you ABSOLUTELY need to like runners
Hit N Run 《requires carbine》Shove, Use melee, and back.
Absolute: Risk your life to kill using Bayonet
I was actually going to bring up fighting styles in this video, but I decided to scrap it since it's very neiche
who would even play passive..?
im a mix of hit n run and absolute risk. i always just charge at everything and when im low on hp i shoot, come in for a few sweeps, and repeat.
@@catfacecat. People when they're solo.
@@Ace-cf2ts i dont kill shamblers in solo because if i do, more will spawn and i might get trapped, not because i dont wanna get grabbed by them.
5:10 since i see many people brag about seeing themselves in videos . That’s me the Prussian officer on the left
Oh nice
If ur talking about orgoniss123 ur on the right
hello I have been playing G&B for a year now and I have been using the rifle since its release, it is not the best weapon but it is a very good weapon to snipe enemies from afar and its really fun to shoot a zapper at point blank range. Everyone should know by now that if you use the Rifle, carbine or horse artillery pistol you should have the heavy saber as a good offensive weapon as a alternative to the musket. The rifle is a good weapon and it can be compared to the musket in its usefulness.
Side stab for the heavy Sabre slows zombies down and sapper doesn’t use a Sabre, they use an axe.
ok MOSSTT other classes use sabre.
If you learn the sabre you learn the fundamentals of all melee in the game.
They all swing roughly the same.
Smash your shoulder into a zombie for a side swing headshot.
Overheads all land in the same spot.
Jabs have roughly the same sweet spots for headshots in first person.
Back then when first playing GnB line infantry was my main and i really love the stock combo: musket + sabre (musket have bayonet so you can charge and reach zombies further, this is my main melee. And sabre is when i need to fight or save teammates from a horde of zombies). But i gave up after a few times i failed to shot bombers which were moving side way toward my teammate (instead of straight toward me, in my POV) and it killed my teammate, or in many situation that require a quick aim (i aim so slow), i realized i cant fully utilize the musket.
So now to me the lance is just heaven (You can hit zombies through wall with it and it can also hit mutil zombies comparing to only one at a time like the bayonet, and even melee bomber in some extreme cases and only take a few damages).
All weapons in the game are NOT totally USELESS or powerful, it depends on how u define them and how u can utilize them. They're all well balanced unless they haven't been acknowledged by the developers if they're not used much.
The rifle is useful in certain maps such as copenhagen and vardohus (objective) as some areas are intended to be designed for long range weapons to burst down. It's mainly recommended for hardcore as it can bypass sapper's bullet resistance and the rifle is mostly used to kill zappers.
The lancer class may weaker than the heavy sabre, but it WILL get a buff as the developers have acknowledged it's weakness like the slowness. The lancer class does well against poking and is most effective against a crowd.
If you wanna be a good infrantry just use the heavy sabre and headshot zombies with overhead
so im a both mobile and pc player for guts and blackpowder. now im not 100% sure but im probably the best mobile movement player cuz today, ive been playing san sebastian (in hardcore) and i was the last one alive and to make it worse I WAS THE ONE DOWN WHERE THE HAY BALE WAS! so i was super worried that i will die but i somehow survived for about 12 minutes now i was stuck on the edge but i have good movement if i say it myself. i mean, I can do what a pc speed running player can do. literally but movement is the only thing im good at so ye i gotta be lucky to actually "survive"
One thing you forgot to mention about the rifle. It ignores the Zapper bullet resistance. So you can one shot a Zapper by shooting its head
You can one shot it anytime, I use the rifle rather often and it one shots the Zapper and anything behind it
Man, Lance is still usefull. 3-4 people with lance on tight spot is like a phananx - a wall of spears strong enough to block the horde, while everyone else are taking care of the bombers and other special zombies.
you can go In first person and look up which again moves your melee allowing you to do headshots ways easier
Can't wait for the sapper one!!! I hope they feature how to zone with the sapper!
i hope one day someone responds to this in the future talking about how everything changed
The lance got buffed.
Is it op now? Best loudout?
Heavy sabre's down stab in first person is literally a better pike, minus some range and dmg
This was another thing I was going to cover, but I forgot to bring it up during the sabre explanation.
Good video, but I would've preferred if you emphasized the aspects of charging with the musket vs. heavy sabre and the qualities of HAP (it put me off from the start because of the inaccurate right barrel, never used it).
When charge is happening do you just equips your heavy saber and run into zombies with clicking anything??
Yes
Respectively, I disagree with your opinion on the rifle. It’s really good on Coffengangin or however, you spell it and I like it most out of all the weapons considering the fact it does more damage so it’s better on hard-core and penetration difference doesn’t seem like a lot until you actually use it in the four second difference of the reload speed is noticeable, but it’s not bad so yeah, respectively, I disagree with your opinion
How much hp do zombies have in hardcore
Pheonix very good video you desrve more susb
Rifle is useful on hardcore because of the extra damage and ignores the headshot resistance of sappers.
BTW THERE IS NO REASON TO USE IT ON CASUAL DUE TO THE REASONS YOU STATED.
I like to use rifle as a sniper and also rifle is my favourite gun because yes
hard ass intro for a g&b guide
Not to lie I just use line infantry because of french marines and sometimes I say "I am the fake old guard because of my fashioned uniform"
Love the video but just wanted to say you cant use the sabre on sapper
I chose heavy saber because it can one shot zombie in torso so I can don't take hard DMG debuf with normal saber
I think devs add pike to bugle users for balance
Lance is not useless😡😡
*if you bought Lance Cavalary*
I myself am a mobile player, Im also a hero but the thing is, The person i save just leaves me to die while i get grabbed, IT SUCKS
People are the worst man
@@phoenixboxer8231ik😞
I literally only bought the rifle for the reload animation
Love the video but just wanted to say when you were explaining the sabre just wanted to say... you cant use sabre on sapper????
Yea ik I forgot lol
You can actually hit bombers/barrels with a lance and live if the hitbox of the lance is the tip of it
I only use lance for pvp mode tho but i found it out one time
Lance is useful for hitting barrels through walls easier, and meleeing barrels without taking damage. That is the one upside it has over heavy sabre.
also 2nd comment ik but rifle with heavy sabre is basically the musket with bayonet
Amazing guide! I just wanted to ask, have you covered flicking? Its where you move your camera to an angle quickly to hit multiple zombies. And do you have a discord server? I’d gladly join.
I was doing some flicking in the background footage but I didn't fully cover it. Tbh I should have and thats on me.
@@phoenixboxer8231 ahh its ok but i also want to know if u have a discord server
@@user-bonkers check the description of this video there's a link to my server
I have my own guide
Step #1: press N
Step #2: press any of the 5 people besides the very left
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Pro tip: if you are playing w priest or have a hand axe you can kill runners easily by straffing soon as the runner duck their head
Ima stop you at the rifle
Rifle stats
Damage: 195 highest per bullet in the game
Range: 1500 studs highest in the game
Reload: 14s which isnt that bad if you retreat before a reload
Hidden stats: ignores zapper bullet resistance
This means you can land collateral shots on zappers
Its also very cheap at 400 francs
Im gonna have to politely disagree with you on the rifle
Range is unnecessary and you never need more range than how much the musket has. The farthest you should ever have to shoot is in catacombs at the end. even then the musket does this fine.
the damage and it going past zapper resistance is fine, but you can legit one or two tap most zappers with your bayonet or heavy sabre if you hit headshot making shooting a zapper kind of a waste. The gun reloads 4 seconds slower than a musket which doesn't seem like a lot at first and is probably the lesser of the downsides of the gun, but paired with all the other downsides rifle has compared to musket this actually becomes very significant.
Lastly if you're constantly retreating into the backlines to have to reload because your gun reloads slow and it can only clear a LINE (not a group) of zombies, you're better off just meleeing and forget reloading. You can make the excuse of "Oh I snipe zappers" or "Oh I use it to snipe barrels" A. Zappers are easier to deal with at close range (IF YOU HAVE SPACE). B. Your gun reloads so slow its not worth using to take out barrels, instead use horse arty pistol or carbine for this.
TL;DR
The rifle no matter how you put it does not out class the musket at all.
Also read the pinned comment for more info
The axe is cooking but i think heavy saber is better
Tbh, I prefer the rifle and the Lance and I prefer the sabre over heavy sabre
I can understand the sabre. but dang rifle & lance? That's kind odd
I think you never played hardcore rifle is useless?
The rifle ignores the headshot protection on the zapper, that’s my main use for it and I main the SHIT out of the rifle plus heavy Sabre
“How to play as Jean”
Rifle is just musket without bayonet and better in all stats except reload.
im still going to buy rifle, remember carbine was the 1 of the worst gun in the game? now it got buffed alot. And i think rifle will be buff in the future
I hope it does
Reasons to buy rifle
1) looks cool
2) curiosity
3) I have francs.
@@phoenixboxer8231 they will, if dont they might get backlash
me as a lance main realizing the heavy saber is a better option: 😭😭
first also can you make a video about pit floors 20 to 29
I already did. Go check my recent uploads
I play with a lance and switched to musket to get give em steel
Bayonet, bayonet charge and bayonet headshots
Line infantry is most hated
Because its mostly associated with new players using it
Chaplain tbh
Rifle's gud tho
Read pinned comment
The rifle is shit instead use the musket
I prefer carbine
Each weapon has it's own use and play style but I do agree that rifle is the worst out of the three
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horse artillery pistol is so shit it isnt even mentioned
But I like that gun :(
@@phoenixboxer8231 we dont talk about henry Nock guns in here 🤫
Never let bro cook again
Elaborate?
I agree with the rest of the video but the useless weapons I dont agree with as on some maps ig catacombs and tyroll rifle can be life saver with the one shot kills to sapper
The lance is really good on Hougoumont and let farme because of the high platforms
An important thing about the lance is it's range being able to kill bombers and sappers easier to kill because you
Don't have to jump around the swings just walk backwards and stab
Rifle has neiche places where it's useful. On tyroll you don't really need rifle for sappers. The gun shoots slow enough for 1-2 more sappers (if you're unlucky) to just come barging right through after you shot the first zapper. Also not all zombies perfectly line up and make dealing with them a pain anyway. If you've used the rifle realistically, you'll realize you spend more time reloading than actually helping the team.
2nd, I actually agree with the lance. But giving up the firepower of a gun is very risky. If you like using the pike for endless because of its extended reach, more power to you. But know the pike has very neiche uses and usually does not out-class most guns.