In the deck tech about thespian stage, you can actually let chapter 3 go on the stack and then turn it into basic forest so you still get the search and it still stays.
61 card is to squeeze out one more dredge of loam. Start with 61 - 7 = 54. That is 18 dredges vs 60 - 7 = 53, which is just 17 dredges. Great for the mirror. 😅
Round 1 game 3 around 00:20:37 just add colorless to manapool with Saga and let it pop and fetch Boots with it. Play Depths, make Lage and equip Boots with the one mana swing in for 21 (loses ofc to Force of Vigor). Same Lage + Boots play was possible in game one when opponent conceded to the Wasteland lock.
But extremely good video once again. Sorry for being such an mtg jerk and only commenting "Hey, there was a better line of play and I tell you what it was!" :D Your videos are always premium entertainment and quality of playing is very high! Keep up the good work you're doing for all of us jerks :)
Ooh can’t wait to watch this after work! I would love to build this but with no Mox Diamond I have to settle for GW Maverick with a smaller depths/stage package. Still it’s fun because I can show off my one Gaea’s cradle!
I keep looking at the attack at 1:02:52 and I think you can squeeze out 1 more damage by equipping both the Shadowspear and Lavaspur boots to the new construct token, safely because they have no cards in hand, and even Cephalid Illusionist's ability doesn't stop the Trample damage, meaning that if they only block the other two tokens, you have an 8/7 and a 3/4 attacker, so they have to also chump block with their third creature to stay alive. Of course this is much easier to see in review of the game than in the moment but it's an interesting scenario. Thanks for the video about this deck, I really admire the land strategy.
1:03:30 I don't think I've ever seen this ability before. I don't play a ton of legacy, and this was a line of text I wasn't even aware existed. That's pretty cool!
45:00 So this was a really interesting discussion about your outs, and the math for this isn't the most straightforward. But you were correct to take a draw step. tl;dr you had a 10% chance to draw crop rotation versus a 7.5% chance to dredge maze of ith. The draw chance is pretty easy. There's a 10% chance that you'd draw a crop rotation or maze since there's 4 out of 40 hits or 1 in 10. Dredging for the maze is more complicated but anytime you're looking at multiple cards, we can think about what's the chance on each event. Each dredge is approximately a 97% chance that you miss because the chances are 39/40, then 38/39, then 37/38. (Note this isn't a perfect assessment because if you DO find it then that changes the math). But intuitively, we can think about rolling three 100 sided dice and if we roll a 1, 2, or 3 on any one die then we succeed. And when you put it that way, it doesn't sound very good. Of course, the easiest way to calculate the odds are to use a hypergeometric calculator and it will tell us that the odds are 7.5%. So yea, not great.
You were correct in the last paragraph, your computations were exact, not approximate. I think you got misled by thinking that you need to count the cases in which you hit maze of ith in the first 3 cards -but those cases do not fall in the cases that you want to count (i.e. those are only the cases in which you're not hitting maze of ith in the first 3 cards). If you continue the computations, chances of not hitting maze of ith is exactly 39/40*38/39*37/38 which you can simplify to 37/40 or 92.5%, which means that the chance of the opposite event (NOT NOT hitting maze of ith) is 7.5%. Alternatively, to find the chance of a 1 outer, you consider that the card can have positions from 1 to 40 in your deck, and it needs to be in position 1, 2 or 3 - so that's 3/40.
Notably no Blast Zone or Tabernacle in this build. I personally like 2 STP in the main for Magus of the Moon matchups, and with the new Blue Moon merfolk coming out
Dom is the amulet titan expert who basicly says what the best version of the deck is best and always plays 61 in modern so seeing him playing a lands deck with 61 makes way to much sense.
could you explain why thespian's stage keeps the saga abilities after it becomes another land? I assume it's some asinine bs to do with layers but I don't know them well enough to understand
Saga's chapters are each triggered abilities. The first and second grant an ability to the card. If it stops being an Urza's Saga, it is still the card that was given those abilities by the chapter triggers.
I didn’t build the deck, but my best guess is that this is a faster, Marit-Lage centric build that plays its own creatures and isn’t trying to hard lock anyone.
Dom actually discussed this in the Lands Discord, and this is a meta call. He prefers not hindering his Constructs and 4 Elvish Reclaimers for a card that is only good in few matchups in this meta. I prefer to build with less Reclaimers and Tabernacle but this is definitely a decision and not a budget restriction.
I always wonder if there's room for a single copy of Ghost Quarter in lands lists somewhere in the 75. Under most circumstances Wasteland it just better, but against some greedy mana bases I feel there could be opportunities to strip the couple of basics someone runs as Waste or Moon protection out from under them.
Question. When you play these decks that others have piloted to success, do you ever contact them for stuff like their thoughts while making it, sideboard intentions, etc... its probably not reasonable for some people, but i could see it being a fun way for the creators of the decks you showcase to get a few words of their own in on the hows and whys, and explain their thinking and strategy.
I have done some collab videos with deck experts in the past. It is significantly more work and costs me more to produce that stuff, so I save it for special occasions.
@@BoshNRoll I do know and love that, but I kinda just mean a simpler smaller thing, like emailing the guy whose deck you are gonna use and ask if they'd like to do stuff like explain by email their thinking, or comment to the wider community. I think it'd be a cool way to greater expand the community, and be fun to hear what the people to whom you borrow decks from have to say. All of that predicating on if you have a way to even contact them like DM or email. It's also hopefully not too hard or disruptive given its text chat, and you can ask for comment well in advance of recording.
In game one round 3 against Beans you gave up the game too soon: you could have presented Arit Lage on your turn and if you draw a land give it haste. They only had a couple minutes on their clock so if they had the swords to plowshare you could have won an time.
In the deck tech about thespian stage, you can actually let chapter 3 go on the stack and then turn it into basic forest so you still get the search and it still stays.
Yeah, this interaction is disgustingggg haha
There's an example of this in the video at 21:24.
Turned on my PC after a rough day and Brian is playing my favourite archetype. You love to see it!
61 card is to squeeze out one more dredge of loam. Start with 61 - 7 = 54. That is 18 dredges vs 60 - 7 = 53, which is just 17 dredges. Great for the mirror. 😅
That's deep bro
land pack reclaim em from the depths
Love the energy dude 🤣
Reclaim 'em if you don't got 'em? 😉
Round 1 game 3 around 00:20:37 just add colorless to manapool with Saga and let it pop and fetch Boots with it. Play Depths, make Lage and equip Boots with the one mana swing in for 21 (loses ofc to Force of Vigor). Same Lage + Boots play was possible in game one when opponent conceded to the Wasteland lock.
Yeah good look. That was a line I wasn't looking for specifically, but is probably a big part of this list's construction.
But extremely good video once again. Sorry for being such an mtg jerk and only commenting "Hey, there was a better line of play and I tell you what it was!" :D Your videos are always premium entertainment and quality of playing is very high! Keep up the good work you're doing for all of us jerks :)
You've been really perfecting the evil laugh
YOUR LAWN MOWER CAUGHT ON FIRE?!?! WTH?!?!
Control strategy with combo lines is much much better than the other way around
The other way around is rescaminator, the best deck in the metagame right now :D
@@Dracomandriuthus hahaha you're right
Ooh can’t wait to watch this after work! I would love to build this but with no Mox Diamond I have to settle for GW Maverick with a smaller depths/stage package. Still it’s fun because I can show off my one Gaea’s cradle!
Awesome games. Been playing this deck for the last 7 months a lot on paper really like it.
I keep looking at the attack at 1:02:52 and I think you can squeeze out 1 more damage by equipping both the Shadowspear and Lavaspur boots to the new construct token, safely because they have no cards in hand, and even Cephalid Illusionist's ability doesn't stop the Trample damage, meaning that if they only block the other two tokens, you have an 8/7 and a 3/4 attacker, so they have to also chump block with their third creature to stay alive.
Of course this is much easier to see in review of the game than in the moment but it's an interesting scenario. Thanks for the video about this deck, I really admire the land strategy.
Recently looked into Lands and getting the cards for it, now I see this.
Perfect Timing!
Even Bosh’s lawnmowers get pyroblasted.
1:03:30 I don't think I've ever seen this ability before. I don't play a ton of legacy, and this was a line of text I wasn't even aware existed. That's pretty cool!
Ohhh boy I’ve been waiting for this one! Love it Brian!
Awesome video! Love watching Lands do its thing
The coolest control deck in legacy featuring the only cool dredge card
Shenanigans is not in this deck?
Oh no, this deck is so cool. I want to play it now.
Yeeeeeeessss FINALLY another lands gameplay deck! I’ve been hoping and praying, Thank you Bosh!!
Man, this league had some heater matches. Some true lands gameplay fighting against some potent blue control and combo.
Lands is so exciting to see more content of
Ok ok ok I am excited as a lands enjoyer
45:00 So this was a really interesting discussion about your outs, and the math for this isn't the most straightforward. But you were correct to take a draw step. tl;dr you had a 10% chance to draw crop rotation versus a 7.5% chance to dredge maze of ith.
The draw chance is pretty easy. There's a 10% chance that you'd draw a crop rotation or maze since there's 4 out of 40 hits or 1 in 10.
Dredging for the maze is more complicated but anytime you're looking at multiple cards, we can think about what's the chance on each event. Each dredge is approximately a 97% chance that you miss because the chances are 39/40, then 38/39, then 37/38. (Note this isn't a perfect assessment because if you DO find it then that changes the math). But intuitively, we can think about rolling three 100 sided dice and if we roll a 1, 2, or 3 on any one die then we succeed. And when you put it that way, it doesn't sound very good. Of course, the easiest way to calculate the odds are to use a hypergeometric calculator and it will tell us that the odds are 7.5%. So yea, not great.
You were correct in the last paragraph, your computations were exact, not approximate. I think you got misled by thinking that you need to count the cases in which you hit maze of ith in the first 3 cards -but those cases do not fall in the cases that you want to count (i.e. those are only the cases in which you're not hitting maze of ith in the first 3 cards).
If you continue the computations, chances of not hitting maze of ith is exactly 39/40*38/39*37/38 which you can simplify to 37/40 or 92.5%, which means that the chance of the opposite event (NOT NOT hitting maze of ith) is 7.5%.
Alternatively, to find the chance of a 1 outer, you consider that the card can have positions from 1 to 40 in your deck, and it needs to be in position 1, 2 or 3 - so that's 3/40.
I was curious about this, thanks!
That was a great class. Thank u ;)
Notably no Blast Zone or Tabernacle in this build. I personally like 2 STP in the main for Magus of the Moon matchups, and with the new Blue Moon merfolk coming out
Dom is the amulet titan expert who basicly says what the best version of the deck is best and always plays 61 in modern so seeing him playing a lands deck with 61 makes way to much sense.
singleton Ghost Quarter would feel really good.
Lawn mower fire!! Lawn mower fire!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
could you explain why thespian's stage keeps the saga abilities after it becomes another land? I assume it's some asinine bs to do with layers but I don't know them well enough to understand
Saga's chapters are each triggered abilities. The first and second grant an ability to the card. If it stops being an Urza's Saga, it is still the card that was given those abilities by the chapter triggers.
39:40 Only 29 lands and 62 cards? You hurt me bosh lol
Why no tabernacle?
My best guess is that whoever submitted it owns it in paper and they dont own a tabernacle? 🤣
I didn’t build the deck, but my best guess is that this is a faster, Marit-Lage centric build that plays its own creatures and isn’t trying to hard lock anyone.
@@PurpleDragonSpiketrue lol
@@BoshNRollmaybe
Dom actually discussed this in the Lands Discord, and this is a meta call. He prefers not hindering his Constructs and 4 Elvish Reclaimers for a card that is only good in few matchups in this meta. I prefer to build with less Reclaimers and Tabernacle but this is definitely a decision and not a budget restriction.
Imagine playing mtg and opps only play land and pass
I always wonder if there's room for a single copy of Ghost Quarter in lands lists somewhere in the 75. Under most circumstances Wasteland it just better, but against some greedy mana bases I feel there could be opportunities to strip the couple of basics someone runs as Waste or Moon protection out from under them.
You can include a GQ, for sure.
Shave a Stage, a Depths, or a Fetch and it should be fine.
It's personal preference for all the ratios.
Theres builds that run it.
Those builds go lower on depths and lean harder on being a prison deck.
Draco is right if you are more prison oriented then the GQ is better I personally like it in the main.
Hey, Brian, do you live in Shivan Gorge? Is that why your lawnmower caught on fire?
Proud resident of the Ramunap Ruins.
Typical blue mage. Buying up real estate in a red neighborhood. 😂
@@matthewbeard7841Gotta get that red mana for his activated ability somehow 😉
Question. When you play these decks that others have piloted to success, do you ever contact them for stuff like their thoughts while making it, sideboard intentions, etc... its probably not reasonable for some people, but i could see it being a fun way for the creators of the decks you showcase to get a few words of their own in on the hows and whys, and explain their thinking and strategy.
I have done some collab videos with deck experts in the past. It is significantly more work and costs me more to produce that stuff, so I save it for special occasions.
@@BoshNRoll I do know and love that, but I kinda just mean a simpler smaller thing, like emailing the guy whose deck you are gonna use and ask if they'd like to do stuff like explain by email their thinking, or comment to the wider community. I think it'd be a cool way to greater expand the community, and be fun to hear what the people to whom you borrow decks from have to say.
All of that predicating on if you have a way to even contact them like DM or email.
It's also hopefully not too hard or disruptive given its text chat, and you can ask for comment well in advance of recording.
Why not run some Choke's in the sideboard ? Genuinely asking, logic being how many legacy decks run on Islands.
Lands is really good against slow blue decks anyway. Some builds that are more lock-out centric play them, this one is focused on Marit Lage and saga.
"Do I actually bring in 12 cards for cephalid breakfast?"
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I didn't get the concede on Round one... Couldn't you make marit lage as a blocker?
Technically yes, but they were up like 8 cards at that point there was almost no way they didn’t have an answer for that.
In game one round 3 against Beans you gave up the game too soon: you could have presented Arit Lage on your turn and if you draw a land give it haste. They only had a couple minutes on their clock so if they had the swords to plowshare you could have won an time.
61 cards!!! Just the way I like my decks
All right let’s go
i want so badly to know what the HELL was going on with your opponent in round 2, talk about running insanely bad
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