18:25 If you get hit right as you’re almost done focusing, you will actually still heal. It doesn’t show that you healed, which is probably just a glitch, but you might notice next time you get hit you don’t actually lose any masks, meaning that you had an extra one that just wasn’t showing for some reason. I’m not sure if this was intended, but it’s really useful. Also it might only be on the switch version of the game.
if i had a nickle for every time team cherry dedicated a super cool looking and lore deep area to a charm that nobody will probably use, i would be able to afford a can of soda.
Take part and have your say in the community charm tier list here: live.tiermaker.com/375835 (seriously, do it, I want to compare my list with yours!) p.s. please consider liking and subbing to please the algorithm gods if you enjoyed the vid! kthnx~
Man, you did gathering swarm DIRTY... Whenever I'm exploring, I used it (and dash master) simply because it's so cheap, in the early-mid game you won't have as many notches or charms to make good use of them. You also need a lot of geo for many things, whether it be for buying notches or charms from salubra or sly, upgrading the nail, or making unbreakable charms, gathering swarm makes it just that bit less tedious.
Feel free to go and vote on the live tier list in the pinned comment (and particularly do gathering swarm justice in your eyes!) I will be comparing community list to my own in a later video!
One of your favourite charm setups includes.. SHARP SHADOW!? And you placed it in A Tier! (Also thanks for the mention) 9.99/10 video. Love the use of the You in the corner with the various poses too, so that's why you changed the channel pic! And the gameplay to keep the viewer retention is a neat little trick too
13:00 Furious vengefies. Heavy blow is so useful for keeping those annoying things away. The charm still isn’t that great though since fighting furious vengeflies is the only use it has.
Thanks for the tag Brother 🙏 Watching the video right now, very interesting opinion about charms. I really like a "passive" damage build but as you know each boss fight requires a different approach. Still great video 👊
Sprint master and wever song +grub song = what kings soul want's to be Sprint master makes them more aggressive and faster just wanted to clear that up
Huge props for including the pale court charms. I love those things so much. Tbh, i dont know if i became an avid joni's blessing enjoyer from abyssal bloom or an abyssal bloom enjoyer from joni's blessing. Either way, their inclusion makes me very happy
Thk you for actually giving a good rating for steady body❤. A lot of mfs say just hold forward and they don’t realise how powerful it is unless they actually give it a chance, like go beat NKG, PV, No eyes, markoth, Oro & Mato with steady body and see the difference. I would’ve put it in S tier myself. Btw nice editing (:
Longnail + Mark of Pride + Unbreakable strength is what I did everything in the game with lol. The other 3 notches were flexible. Although most of the time they were the compass, the one that picks up geo for me and the one that gives me soul on getting hit. Because that is the ultimate convenience combo for just exploring the map. Anyways, MAXIMUM RANGE with MAXIMUM DAMAGE is just the smoothest experience honestly. For Godhome I slapped on quickslash with my remaining 3 notches and I loved it. A rapid fire, high damage, high range melee machine gun basically. And because of the high range, I can often spamm close to a boss and get off loads of damage without pushing myself out of range within that damage window, while keeping the flexibility of the additional range to enable damage windows that I otherwise couldn't take. Double range charms every day.
@@herxantpl6183 Bro what are we arguing? I defined it as damage I have without conditions needing to be fulfilled, like fury of the fallen only being active on one HP. If you wanna discuss anything, how about saying anything to add to the convo instead of just saying useless stuff I literally already answered, guess reading comprehension is hard.
Dash master let's you use dash slash downwards but the slash is steel forward so you can do the shal with the longest range without moving. In a way dash master createds a 4th nail art.
here is my angry opinion on a subjective list made for fun because I love elitism alright it's elitism time, yay! flukiness is S tier. I think you could argue that it is the best charm in the game (with strength, qslash and shaman). I know the speedkills take time to learn and it's kinda annoying but MAN this kill so many bosses they can even attack! not to mention you can multi kill gorgeous husk multiple times with it to gain some sweet sweet cash money mulah! elitism part 2: sharp shadow A tier surprised me tbh. I do think it's the must fun charm in the game by far (hence yt acc name) but it's really not good at all, most of time you want to jump over the boss and pogo on it instead of dashing through. especially considering that spell twister has the same cost and is in the same tier counter elitism: qfocus in A tier is great :grubomg: nah but like fr good players tend to put it in C or lower cuz why using it but it's a great charm for beginners or for less agressive players elitism part 3: Joni's should have it's own tier "harmful". seriously, it's the only charm that actively makes the game harder in every way possible. it requires way too much notches to be relevant and when you could use shaman strength or qslash instead...
I can absolutely see why you would put flukenest in S. One of the tricky things with "general" tier lists is trying to balance it out for all playstyles - and I think for the average noob who doesnt know how to abuse it, its not that great. decent but not great - and hence I averaged it out a bit. It would be interesting to do a tier list from the perspective of a high skill player only - not that I'd have much experience with that XD
I really disagree with Carefree Melody placement, because this is not just a "more health charm", but more like "better health charm". It gets better the more you heal and the more health you have. You said that player can manipulate this to get better chances to block dmg, but it is also doing this by its own, it don't resets chances after death and the only 2 ways to reset chances are to exit the game or when it block the incoming dmg. So when you want to beat like traitor lord and he beats you and you again to him, you have bigger chances to block dmg. And still I didn't mention that this charm block dmg, meaning that if you get hit by hit that would deal 7 dmg and it blocks it, you don't get any dmg, not like the other health charms. It also works on radiant fights because of that and it is good for pantheons and trails. So I would put it in A tier with charms like quick focus. Also I don't know how glowing womb would be C tier by it's own. It deals less dps than grimmchild lv.2, it disappers when using fast travels stealing your soul, it have knowback making fights more random, it interupts healing and many many more. F tier
Ah yes I admit carefree does become good the more you heal. I mathed it out and it's worth like 1 mask per 4.5 you lose or something. Thing is it's rare a fight goes on that long, therefore it not a huge impact in most play. As for glowing womb, as I mentioned in the vid it's only that high because king's honour synergy gives it busted DMG. Otherwise it would be a lot lower - probably low C tier or D tier tbh. Interesting too hear your thoughts though thanks for sharing and be sure to vote on the community tier list pinned!
@@Vegathron Long fights without benches are not rare if you do pantheons. It has probably saved me 3 - 5 masks per pantheon between benches, mainly because of bosses that do double damage. When doing p5, because of double damage bosses, assuming you take the same amount of hits from every boss you will save around 1/4 masks per hit you take. and when playing against only double damage bosses, it is worth 2 masks per 5 hits. So 1 mask per 4.5 hits vs only 1 damage bosses, 1 mask per 4 hits in p5*, and 1 mask per 2.5 hits vs only 2 damage per hit bosses.
Shaman “around the mid game” is so wrong. If you play regularly, all you need to beat is false knight, hornet, and Gruz mother. If you do the shade skip, you just need gruz. Very, very early game.
For sure, its only saving grace is pale court makes it pretty good - but if you don't count that since its a mod (which is fair), then yeah its TRASH XD
I just love how it trivializes certain phases of bosses and lets me deal an extra hit fairly often. to be fair I use it to sort of cheese certain boss moves instead of learning them properly XD
Okay, look at the whole of B-tier. And then look me straight in the eyes and tell me that any of those other than compass and maybe boon of hallownest are better than Dash/Sprintmaster. THEN also tell me that everyone likes grubsong better than steady body. You're actually capping bro. Underrated tho I do enjoy watching ur vids
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If you get hit right as you’re almost done focusing, you will actually still heal. It doesn’t show that you healed, which is probably just a glitch, but you might notice next time you get hit you don’t actually lose any masks, meaning that you had an extra one that just wasn’t showing for some reason. I’m not sure if this was intended, but it’s really useful. Also it might only be on the switch version of the game.
really? thats very interesting, didn't know about that little quirk!
if i had a nickle for every time team cherry dedicated a super cool looking and lore deep area to a charm that nobody will probably use, i would be able to afford a can of soda.
yes, a new vegathron video! let's go man, you are so underrated
You are underrated too
Thanks Masker! I also look forward to your next vid!
@@Vegathron i also really like the png of you with different expressions, its epic!
Take part and have your say in the community charm tier list here: live.tiermaker.com/375835 (seriously, do it, I want to compare my list with yours!)
p.s. please consider liking and subbing to please the algorithm gods if you enjoyed the vid! kthnx~
Ok folks why are there more S tier charms than other tiers yall giving those S' away like candy! 🤣
@@Vegathronbecause there are just that many good charms in hollow knight
@@shadowreaperbg7759 haha I wish I had you guys marking my homework when I was in school =P
Man, you did gathering swarm DIRTY... Whenever I'm exploring, I used it (and dash master) simply because it's so cheap, in the early-mid game you won't have as many notches or charms to make good use of them. You also need a lot of geo for many things, whether it be for buying notches or charms from salubra or sly, upgrading the nail, or making unbreakable charms, gathering swarm makes it just that bit less tedious.
Feel free to go and vote on the live tier list in the pinned comment (and particularly do gathering swarm justice in your eyes!) I will be comparing community list to my own in a later video!
Hey you are a real one for not giving the compass meme ranking
This is strictly a no meme zone! 🤣
@@Vegathron HOW DID I MISS THIS?! WHAT?! I am so sorry to miss this!😭😢😓
@@kokomagdy6717 aha no worries its a busy time of year!
@@Vegathron thank you 😁😂
compass == s tier
One of your favourite charm setups includes.. SHARP SHADOW!? And you placed it in A Tier! (Also thanks for the mention) 9.99/10 video. Love the use of the You in the corner with the various poses too, so that's why you changed the channel pic! And the gameplay to keep the viewer retention is a neat little trick too
Haha yes couldn't mention sharp shadow without also mentioning the resident sharp shadow enthusiast XD glad you enjoyed!
Sharp Shadow ftw! :D
@@Kayta-Linda Yeahhh!
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Furious vengefies. Heavy blow is so useful for keeping those annoying things away. The charm still isn’t that great though since fighting furious vengeflies is the only use it has.
@@josephc8312 it is not the only use it has, you clearly aren't that knowledgeable
@@David-k6j7nyes it is
@@David-k6j7n ok
This chanel is so underrated. I'm sure He will have many subscribers
Spell Twister not being S is mad
Yeah it’s a nice charm it doesn’t do anything else
13:27 ESPINAS GO BRRRRR
Took me a second to remember I put monster hunter footage in this XD
Looked for this for a while. Thanks for the great video!
I love that hegemol is a charm in the thumbnail.
One of these things is not like the others... XD
Thanks for the tag Brother 🙏
Watching the video right now, very interesting opinion about charms. I really like a "passive" damage build but as you know each boss fight requires a different approach. Still great video 👊
Hey thanks again for allowing me to use that music. I am still racking up watches listening to it on your channel! very underrated.
@@Vegathron thanks buddy, I do appreciate it a lot 🙏
Also I really like your content and I think that's a perfect match heheh
Skurry would murder you if he saw you put deamshield in the same tier nailmaster's glory and fury
bro really said that grimmchild have decent aim💀
To be fair he's ok against big targets like bosses but yeah that's about it 😂
Sprint master and wever song +grub song = what kings soul want's to be Sprint master makes them more aggressive and faster just wanted to clear that up
Huge props for including the pale court charms. I love those things so much. Tbh, i dont know if i became an avid joni's blessing enjoyer from abyssal bloom or an abyssal bloom enjoyer from joni's blessing. Either way, their inclusion makes me very happy
I cant understand why Joni's Blessing, Deep Focus and Glowing Womb are above Soul Catcher
People hate to much on soul catcher. It just gives so much healing and spell casting value for two notches
pale court.
Nailmaster’s glory is one of the best charms in the game especially you can use cyclone slash as a quick slash replacement.
Yes,and for certain bosses like NKG, it is a must-have to let you easily double your damage
@@ryanahmadi7999 True, and it’s very consistent with flying bosses.
Thk you for actually giving a good rating for steady body❤.
A lot of mfs say just hold forward and they don’t realise how powerful it is unless they actually give it a chance, like go beat NKG, PV, No eyes, markoth, Oro & Mato with steady body and see the difference.
I would’ve put it in S tier myself.
Btw nice editing (:
25:26 but with hiveblood you can afford to use dashmaster sprintmaster and sharp shadow in the same build which boosts your platforming by a lot...
Very good video
Glad you liked it! :)
12:54 MARMUU!!!?? / MOSS CHARGER RADIANT??!!
I rarely use steady body without quick slash, with normal attack speed you have time to readjust to recoil
I know that Sprint Master and Dash Master are normaly not considered that good, but for the Champion's Call in the Pale Court it was mandatory for me.
vegathron "Buldar shell is bad" Any radiance runners "Attack!"
Ngl, best tier list yet
my dude! 💪
Just as an FYI you may be right about gruberfly's but with fury of the fallen it comes back last mask a gets the fotf buffs
I'm happy with where you put steady body thou I'd put it in S.
And heavy blow is good for bosses the stagger shorting is visiblem
Longnail + Mark of Pride + Unbreakable strength is what I did everything in the game with lol. The other 3 notches were flexible.
Although most of the time they were the compass, the one that picks up geo for me and the one that gives me soul on getting hit.
Because that is the ultimate convenience combo for just exploring the map.
Anyways, MAXIMUM RANGE with MAXIMUM DAMAGE is just the smoothest experience honestly.
For Godhome I slapped on quickslash with my remaining 3 notches and I loved it.
A rapid fire, high damage, high range melee machine gun basically. And because of the high range, I can often spamm close to a boss and get off loads of damage without pushing myself out of range within that damage window, while keeping the flexibility of the additional range to enable damage windows that I otherwise couldn't take.
Double range charms every day.
'maximum damage'
*Fury of the fallen moment*
@@herxantpl6183
Alright, maximum BASE damage, as in, no conditions attached.
@@ardynizunia9709 so strength is BASE damage?
@@herxantpl6183
Bro what are we arguing?
I defined it as damage I have without conditions needing to be fulfilled, like fury of the fallen only being active on one HP.
If you wanna discuss anything, how about saying anything to add to the convo instead of just saying useless stuff I literally already answered, guess reading comprehension is hard.
@@ardynizunia9709 charm being worn=acceptable condition
Having health: unacceptanle condition
Grubberflys edged is the best charm mark of pride does not do anything for a waste of 3 notches
Grubberfly's elegy is really good for radiant markoth
can you do a nightmare spark showcase next?
I shall look into it!
Me when steady body gets A tier:
the only time heavy blow is ever useful is in ONE challenge run, which is Clawless.
22:00 resting grounds + subnautica lol
Will you make a video about the community ranking
That is the plan:)
Quick slash > strength
They’re both amazing for nail builds
Quick slash also makes you gain more soul as your getting more hits
Dash master let's you use dash slash downwards but the slash is steel forward so you can do the shal with the longest range without moving.
In a way dash master createds a 4th nail art.
A reason I think soul eater should be higher is it is the one reason I can consistently beat nightmare king grimm
here is my angry opinion on a subjective list made for fun because I love elitism
alright it's elitism time, yay!
flukiness is S tier. I think you could argue that it is the best charm in the game (with strength, qslash and shaman). I know the speedkills take time to learn and it's kinda annoying but MAN this kill so many bosses they can even attack! not to mention you can multi kill gorgeous husk multiple times with it to gain some sweet sweet cash money mulah!
elitism part 2: sharp shadow A tier surprised me tbh. I do think it's the must fun charm in the game by far (hence yt acc name) but it's really not good at all, most of time you want to jump over the boss and pogo on it instead of dashing through. especially considering that spell twister has the same cost and is in the same tier
counter elitism: qfocus in A tier is great :grubomg: nah but like fr good players tend to put it in C or lower cuz why using it but it's a great charm for beginners or for less agressive players
elitism part 3: Joni's should have it's own tier "harmful". seriously, it's the only charm that actively makes the game harder in every way possible. it requires way too much notches to be relevant and when you could use shaman strength or qslash instead...
also steady body is an insane charm it makes the best charm in the game even better ( even if you have to ditch soul twister for it :( )
I can absolutely see why you would put flukenest in S. One of the tricky things with "general" tier lists is trying to balance it out for all playstyles - and I think for the average noob who doesnt know how to abuse it, its not that great. decent but not great - and hence I averaged it out a bit. It would be interesting to do a tier list from the perspective of a high skill player only - not that I'd have much experience with that XD
I’m sad fluke isn’t used as much as it should but I understand bc it has a low range
Dreamshield is definitely good it’s just that 3 notches? It’s a bit overpriced I would say like 2 notches
can u understand english
But heavy blow is required for clawless hollow knight!!!!! I can’t believe you didn’t think of that…
i do think some of the rankings are off but overall its very good
I really disagree with Carefree Melody placement, because this is not just a "more health charm", but more like "better health charm". It gets better the more you heal and the more health you have. You said that player can manipulate this to get better chances to block dmg, but it is also doing this by its own, it don't resets chances after death and the only 2 ways to reset chances are to exit the game or when it block the incoming dmg. So when you want to beat like traitor lord and he beats you and you again to him, you have bigger chances to block dmg. And still I didn't mention that this charm block dmg, meaning that if you get hit by hit that would deal 7 dmg and it blocks it, you don't get any dmg, not like the other health charms. It also works on radiant fights because of that and it is good for pantheons and trails. So I would put it in A tier with charms like quick focus.
Also I don't know how glowing womb would be C tier by it's own. It deals less dps than grimmchild lv.2, it disappers when using fast travels stealing your soul, it have knowback making fights more random, it interupts healing and many many more. F tier
Ah yes I admit carefree does become good the more you heal. I mathed it out and it's worth like 1 mask per 4.5 you lose or something. Thing is it's rare a fight goes on that long, therefore it not a huge impact in most play.
As for glowing womb, as I mentioned in the vid it's only that high because king's honour synergy gives it busted DMG. Otherwise it would be a lot lower - probably low C tier or D tier tbh.
Interesting too hear your thoughts though thanks for sharing and be sure to vote on the community tier list pinned!
@@Vegathron Long fights without benches are not rare if you do pantheons. It has probably saved me 3 - 5 masks per pantheon between benches, mainly because of bosses that do double damage. When doing p5, because of double damage bosses, assuming you take the same amount of hits from every boss you will save around 1/4 masks per hit you take. and when playing against only double damage bosses, it is worth 2 masks per 5 hits. So 1 mask per 4.5 hits vs only 1 damage bosses, 1 mask per 4 hits in p5*, and 1 mask per 2.5 hits vs only 2 damage per hit bosses.
Shaman “around the mid game” is so wrong. If you play regularly, all you need to beat is false knight, hornet, and Gruz mother. If you do the shade skip, you just need gruz. Very, very early game.
@@Flareblitz2763 my dude, the average player isn't doing speedrun skips on a normal playthrough 😂
@@Vegathron post Hornet is early. You just need dash. Not claw
@@Flareblitz2763 yeah fair enough I guess that still is pretty early. In my defence I did say "around" ;)
Was raised with pineapple on pizza, it keeps the pizza less dry tbh and I think that truly depends on the toppings
Let's be serious, we all know wayward compass is S-tier
Only problem with this video is that you even bothered to put glowing womb on the list. It's arguably worse than heavy blow in some scenarios.
For sure, its only saving grace is pale court makes it pretty good - but if you don't count that since its a mod (which is fair), then yeah its TRASH XD
@@Vegathron yeah i don't usually play with mods so I'm accustomed to the ABOMINATION that the normal version is.
imo sharp shadow is pretty useless in this game but W
I just love how it trivializes certain phases of bosses and lets me deal an extra hit fairly often. to be fair I use it to sort of cheese certain boss moves instead of learning them properly XD
nice
Hive blood is way cooler than mark of waste
bruh compass is S++ tier..
im sorry but i can't play the game without dashmaster i became wayyyy to used to it so i just can't take it off
Okay, look at the whole of B-tier. And then look me straight in the eyes and tell me that any of those other than compass and maybe boon of hallownest are better than Dash/Sprintmaster. THEN also tell me that everyone likes grubsong better than steady body. You're actually capping bro. Underrated tho I do enjoy watching ur vids
Most of my main build is d teir or lower.......
Nothing wrong with playing a style you enjoy! If things are still dying and you aren't, well thats the main thing!
Tbh, abyssal bloom is way too overpowered. And combined with jonis blessing takes all the fun away from bossfights
Soooo you put compass in b tier.
PICK A GOD AND START PRAYING
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