I've always been a Jeep Wrangler owner but I just bought a new 2020Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk with the 2.0l turbo and I love it. I showed up at the super lift park and my buddies all ragged me about showing up in a soccer mom SUV... I punked them good on the mountain , rocks and muddy creek trails... I was truly impressed with the Trailhawk and the capability actually surprised me...it will do all that the Wrangler will do and then some.👍
Yep, it for sure won't outwheel everything ever...and a built up wrangler will always be more capable...but they do well for what they are. And the look of shock and amazement of seeing one of us out wheeling is most of the reason i like to wheel it!
Funniest part was they were trusting ME to their fate for the day! None of us had any clue what was down any of the trails! But everyone had fun and there was only some minor fender damage after all said and done.
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6:50 Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads. :) That FJ Race Truck was nice! I think he should have had the lead going up some of those hills, then he could have pulled you up.
FJ looked super sharp! He didn't want to lead, none of us knew anything about the park, there was zero trail signage, and i had the best gps map. He also had the benefit of watching everyone else go through stuff. Plus he also had no winch, so if he would have gotten stuck going up a hill, it would have been the same. I think the main reason i got stuck on the one hill that i did was because that log that pushed me off the side into the bushes/trees.
I think the 265/70 rub slightly more than the 255/75 as they are wider. Either way i'll be staying with these until some more options populate the 255/75 range.
I have 16 with 2" spacer lift. I tried the 265 and it was just too much rub for me...parking lots quickly became nerve wracking because I didn't want to crank it too hard. Went back down to a 245/75, obviously no rubbing because of the former trimming. Happy for now. May give a 245/80 a try down the road some time.
I’m WAY late to the party here, but I gotta ask. Are you making any use of the crawl systems for this thing or just sending it? If not I get it, but if you did use it I’d love to know where it really wasn’t working out well.
99% of the time it lives in "auto". I recently did a video on how i use the driving modes and such. In general i use the modes for their name-sake, for that obstacle, then back to 'auto' it goes. And sorry, i'm not going to micro-commentate every time i switch modes on the trails. To me is basic common sense, following the name and purpose of the modes.
Good video as usual. Enjoyable to watch. If possible, can you sometimes comment on the gearing? Automatic, sand, rock, regular or low gear, rear end locked or not? Thanks and keep the cool videos coming.
Literally ANYTHING on the trails is 4Low. High is really only ever used if you are out cruising the beach or something. For this particular day it lived in Sand/Mud mode as wheelspin was king...all day long. (i reminded the other TH of that a few times on the radio) I don't recall if i had it locked at any point, may have locked it for a couple of the greasy hills? I typically just leave it in Auto when on regular dry trails, and only use Rock if doing any technical rocky bits.
Also, in 4 low at the lowest, v6 I think is 48:1 crawl, 2.4 4cyl is 56:1... if you do the math... they're pretty close in wheel torque... v6 still wins though... I'm speaking for 2016... the newer ones .. they put about the same in the v6 too. ... so v6 would REALLY beat the 2.4 then. Still.. with my 2.4.. I pulled a MASSIVE tree out of my friend's yard .... like 50 foot long very heavy tree ... the torque is insane on all of them... not even 1/4 inch throttle and it felt like I had enough power to break the 10,000 lb tow strap... Maybe not but it felt that way. The tow hooks are VERY strong.
@@FearlessTrailhawk, @Pro Blu , Yes I was running 285/70/17 Cooper Discoverer AT3 4s all terrains on my FJ Cruiser and had to keep the hammer down to try to clean them out. The mud was so greasy all of us had trouble that day and momentum was key. Some serious scares on some off-camber stuff and trees as well because steering was difficult partly because I didn't disengage my rear locker in tight turns in the beginning. Fun times though and thanks for having me along.
@@jedironin380 I really have it set up for Colorado and Moab rock crawling so mud isn't a typical thing it's set up for but it made it through the day minus one rear bumper cover end piece. Thanks!
I really enjoy your Videos man!!! Unfortunately I don’t get to do 4x4 much living in Florida!, I’ve been doing a lot of research on the Cherokee trailhawk and I want one really bad! Any suggestions about any particular year? Also I’d like to know if you have the 2” lift kit on yours? Thanks and keep posting cool videos please!
19+ are the better versions, imho, lots of little improvements to some 'death by papercuts' things. Yes, i'm lifted. All the mods i've done are in the description of each video with what was on it at the time.
@@mabus7th Yep, there is not a whole lot 'legal' around this part of Ohio. There are a few parks and sections of county roads that are suitable for stocks, but like you've already discovered...they aren't "near". The best bet for you is there are several parks in KY that would probly be the closest. Either way i wouldn't go anywhere new without a friend who knows those trails, and i'd advise never wheeling alone in general. I'm still trying to find places and get people to show me around. But with the current situation all that is kinda on hold until this all blows over.
I have Gaia premium , and hate it , it is so hard to use , like i have a really hard time with it , maybe its just me but its the hardest map app i have ever had to use
I liked the free version so well i got the paid version...i don't know man. Its worked well for me. But i'd been using it for a few years before i upgraded
Because i hate how wranglers drive on the road, and i do a LOT of driving. And i like to be different, while enjoying creature comforts that can't be had in a wrangler. Plus it's too large for my liking. And the fact a stock Rubi with the options i want (which is still missing sone ths KL has) costs lots more than i'll ever be able to put into the KL...let alone how much would be spent in aftermarket stuff for the JL... And its not like i'm doing extreme trails or anything. Everything i've done a stock JL Rubi can do.
I was running 285/70-17 Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S tires on my FJ and those are definitely not mudders but the greasy mud was on frozen ground so none of us had any good grip. The mud tires couldn't dig down to anything dry and get traction so it kind of made tire selection not as critical. We were all floating on slick mud with slippery frozen ground underneath.
@@chrisfigueroa3486 I'm almost positive as they posted in our groups about getting new tires. Could be that they weren't on yet during this ride. But if you are talking about the other white TH they just got ridge grapplers
I’ve never understood why anyone would but all the time, effort and money into lifting a wrangler, outhitting it with tires and a winch, and not have lockers
I'm VERY surprised that the Cherokee EVER slipped on anything. I have tried to find scenarios where mine would lose grip and I feel like it's impossible. It is VERY difficult to get wheelspin on-road, for sure. It can be pouring rain, I can floor it... zero wheel spin.. it's like it's a dry sunny day. Absolutely incredible 4 auto. The trailhawk has the BEST traction of any vehicle I've EVER driven in my life.
If that was your only complaint i'll take it. I was in a dedicated offroad park where there was enough discarded parts on the trails to probly build a whole rig, i didn't see a single person all day give a single thought to any of it (including the 'workers'). Should i have taken it with me, yeah. Am i perfect, nope. But do, feel free to continue to pass judgement as you are clearly more perfect. Does that mean i don't ever pick trash up and take it with me? I guess because i don't show it on camera every time i leave the trails cleaner, i must not ever do it.
BTW, I subscribed to your channel because I have one of the 1st Trailhawk models (2013 Grand Cherokee hemi). Please don't show people throwing trash on the trail, pack out what you pack in. I carry trash bags and spend a good portion of each trip picking that stuff up. I like your channel and want to keep watching so please post picking up trash.
Yes, i know, i'm the most terrible person ever for running over someone else's debris in the middle of the trail and mindlessly tossing out of the path. And this particular offroad park had enough crap on the sides of the trails to likely build a whole rig, i kid you not. I saw the park staff toss some parts off the trail that morning, and i didn't think that little plastic bit from some wrangler's bumper was that big of deal. I made a mistake. But i'm sure you don't know what thats like as you are perfect apparently. And yes, i do pick up lots of crap and generally leave trails in better condition than i found them. I just don't always have cameras that catch it, nor do i feel like adding all that into the vids just to virtue signal. I have now edited this out if that makes you feel better.
@@FearlessTrailhawk Didn't mean to co.e across so harsh, of course we all make mistakes. I appreciate you removing it as we face teail closures all too often and I hate to give them anymore ammo. Keep up the great videos, I really do appreciate the content
I've always been a Jeep Wrangler owner but I just bought a new 2020Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk with the 2.0l turbo and I love it. I showed up at the super lift park and my buddies all ragged me about showing up in a soccer mom SUV... I punked them good on the mountain , rocks and muddy creek trails... I was truly impressed with the Trailhawk and the capability actually surprised me...it will do all that the Wrangler will do and then some.👍
Yep, it for sure won't outwheel everything ever...and a built up wrangler will always be more capable...but they do well for what they are. And the look of shock and amazement of seeing one of us out wheeling is most of the reason i like to wheel it!
That frontal hit toward the end.. I felt that.
Yes
Love it! inching closer to trading for my hawk.
just got a 2015 trailhawk two days ago, I cant wait to take it out!
This is crazy. A Cherokee! Not a Wrangler or Grand Cherokee or even a Power Wagon, is keeping up with a Tacoma and a FJ.
Funniest part was they were trusting ME to their fate for the day! None of us had any clue what was down any of the trails! But everyone had fun and there was only some minor fender damage after all said and done.
Throwing trash in the woods? Not good, all the rest of the channels I watch take their and others trash with them.
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Fearless Trailhawk you speak russin lol??
6:50 Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads. :)
That FJ Race Truck was nice! I think he should have had the lead going up some of those hills, then he could have pulled you up.
FJ looked super sharp! He didn't want to lead, none of us knew anything about the park, there was zero trail signage, and i had the best gps map. He also had the benefit of watching everyone else go through stuff. Plus he also had no winch, so if he would have gotten stuck going up a hill, it would have been the same.
I think the main reason i got stuck on the one hill that i did was because that log that pushed me off the side into the bushes/trees.
Love it man....
I was looking at diffrent tires size to go with my 2" lift and I actually was looking at the 265/70R17 over the 255/75R17
I think the 265/70 rub slightly more than the 255/75 as they are wider. Either way i'll be staying with these until some more options populate the 255/75 range.
I have 16 with 2" spacer lift. I tried the 265 and it was just too much rub for me...parking lots quickly became nerve wracking because I didn't want to crank it too hard. Went back down to a 245/75, obviously no rubbing because of the former trimming. Happy for now. May give a 245/80 a try down the road some time.
I’m WAY late to the party here, but I gotta ask. Are you making any use of the crawl systems for this thing or just sending it? If not I get it, but if you did use it I’d love to know where it really wasn’t working out well.
99% of the time it lives in "auto". I recently did a video on how i use the driving modes and such. In general i use the modes for their name-sake, for that obstacle, then back to 'auto' it goes. And sorry, i'm not going to micro-commentate every time i switch modes on the trails. To me is basic common sense, following the name and purpose of the modes.
Good video as usual. Enjoyable to watch. If possible, can you sometimes comment on the gearing? Automatic, sand, rock, regular or low gear, rear end locked or not? Thanks and keep the cool videos coming.
Literally ANYTHING on the trails is 4Low. High is really only ever used if you are out cruising the beach or something. For this particular day it lived in Sand/Mud mode as wheelspin was king...all day long. (i reminded the other TH of that a few times on the radio) I don't recall if i had it locked at any point, may have locked it for a couple of the greasy hills?
I typically just leave it in Auto when on regular dry trails, and only use Rock if doing any technical rocky bits.
Also, in 4 low at the lowest, v6 I think is 48:1 crawl, 2.4 4cyl is 56:1... if you do the math... they're pretty close in wheel torque... v6 still wins though... I'm speaking for 2016... the newer ones .. they put about the same in the v6 too. ... so v6 would REALLY beat the 2.4 then. Still.. with my 2.4.. I pulled a MASSIVE tree out of my friend's yard .... like 50 foot long very heavy tree ... the torque is insane on all of them... not even 1/4 inch throttle and it felt like I had enough power to break the 10,000 lb tow strap... Maybe not but it felt that way. The tow hooks are VERY strong.
No way, the Wrangler had trouble at 13:58?! Looks like ya'll had a fine slippin' 'n' slidin' in mud time, though.
Only me and the FJ were able to get through that on our own, but as you can tell, he was going full ham at everything to make sure he made it!
@@FearlessTrailhawk, @Pro Blu , Yes I was running 285/70/17 Cooper Discoverer AT3 4s all terrains on my FJ Cruiser and had to keep the hammer down to try to clean them out. The mud was so greasy all of us had trouble that day and momentum was key. Some serious scares on some off-camber stuff and trees as well because steering was difficult partly because I didn't disengage my rear locker in tight turns in the beginning. Fun times though and thanks for having me along.
@@quadpit Very nice FJ! A friend of mine had one for a few years, but he didn't get the chance to do much off-roading with it, unfortunately.
@@jedironin380 I really have it set up for Colorado and Moab rock crawling so mud isn't a typical thing it's set up for but it made it through the day minus one rear bumper cover end piece. Thanks!
I really enjoy your Videos man!!! Unfortunately I don’t get to do 4x4 much living in Florida!, I’ve been doing a lot of research on the Cherokee trailhawk and I want one really bad! Any suggestions about any particular year? Also I’d like to know if you have the 2” lift kit on yours? Thanks and keep posting cool videos please!
19+ are the better versions, imho, lots of little improvements to some 'death by papercuts' things. Yes, i'm lifted. All the mods i've done are in the description of each video with what was on it at the time.
You have any trails you would've recommend on stock? Keep in mind I wife and a couple of toddlers?
At this park? There is no map, and literally zero trail markings...its kinda more turn down a trail and hope for the best sorta thing.
I was just talking about trails in general. Live in the Cincinnati area and closest I can find are like 2 hours away.
@@mabus7th Yep, there is not a whole lot 'legal' around this part of Ohio. There are a few parks and sections of county roads that are suitable for stocks, but like you've already discovered...they aren't "near". The best bet for you is there are several parks in KY that would probly be the closest. Either way i wouldn't go anywhere new without a friend who knows those trails, and i'd advise never wheeling alone in general.
I'm still trying to find places and get people to show me around. But with the current situation all that is kinda on hold until this all blows over.
Does the FJ have a factory locker?
99% that it does. I'd have to google that one...
I have Gaia premium , and hate it , it is so hard to use , like i have a really hard time with it , maybe its just me but its the hardest map app i have ever had to use
I liked the free version so well i got the paid version...i don't know man. Its worked well for me. But i'd been using it for a few years before i upgraded
I don't understand. Why would you do so much off-roading and not just get a ruby?
Because i hate how wranglers drive on the road, and i do a LOT of driving. And i like to be different, while enjoying creature comforts that can't be had in a wrangler. Plus it's too large for my liking. And the fact a stock Rubi with the options i want (which is still missing sone ths KL has) costs lots more than i'll ever be able to put into the KL...let alone how much would be spent in aftermarket stuff for the JL...
And its not like i'm doing extreme trails or anything. Everything i've done a stock JL Rubi can do.
You think mud tires would've helped better there?
I have MTs, and they helped a little, but when that top layer is that greasy...not much less than swampers will grip very well...
I was running 285/70-17 Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S tires on my FJ and those are definitely not mudders but the greasy mud was on frozen ground so none of us had any good grip. The mud tires couldn't dig down to anything dry and get traction so it kind of made tire selection not as critical. We were all floating on slick mud with slippery frozen ground underneath.
What was the other th on.. (tires)
The milestar mt was putting in work that day
I believe they have nitto ridge grappler
I'm unsure atm, maybe they will see and comment before i can get the info.
@@jamesdietz6188 no I dont think so.. they dont look like it
@@FearlessTrailhawk and does your milestar hit the control arm..
@@chrisfigueroa3486 I'm almost positive as they posted in our groups about getting new tires. Could be that they weren't on yet during this ride. But if you are talking about the other white TH they just got ridge grapplers
I’ve never understood why anyone would but all the time, effort and money into lifting a wrangler, outhitting it with tires and a winch, and not have lockers
#lightbarsbeforelockers if he'd turned on his lightbar he wouldn't have gotten stuck....
@@FearlessTrailhawk hahahahahha. Nice...
I'm VERY surprised that the Cherokee EVER slipped on anything. I have tried to find scenarios where mine would lose grip and I feel like it's impossible. It is VERY difficult to get wheelspin on-road, for sure. It can be pouring rain, I can floor it... zero wheel spin.. it's like it's a dry sunny day. Absolutely incredible 4 auto. The trailhawk has the BEST traction of any vehicle I've EVER driven in my life.
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3:52 Fail.
If that was your only complaint i'll take it. I was in a dedicated offroad park where there was enough discarded parts on the trails to probly build a whole rig, i didn't see a single person all day give a single thought to any of it (including the 'workers'). Should i have taken it with me, yeah. Am i perfect, nope. But do, feel free to continue to pass judgement as you are clearly more perfect.
Does that mean i don't ever pick trash up and take it with me? I guess because i don't show it on camera every time i leave the trails cleaner, i must not ever do it.
@@FearlessTrailhawk Yup that's it, I think you do a great job. No I'm far from perfect.
hahahah... cherokee did it... wrangler didn't lol....
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That was horrible, don't throw your trash on the side of the trail!! Stuff like that gives offroaders a bad name!! Shame on you!!!!!!
BTW, I subscribed to your channel because I have one of the 1st Trailhawk models (2013 Grand Cherokee hemi). Please don't show people throwing trash on the trail, pack out what you pack in. I carry trash bags and spend a good portion of each trip picking that stuff up. I like your channel and want to keep watching so please post picking up trash.
Yes, i know, i'm the most terrible person ever for running over someone else's debris in the middle of the trail and mindlessly tossing out of the path. And this particular offroad park had enough crap on the sides of the trails to likely build a whole rig, i kid you not. I saw the park staff toss some parts off the trail that morning, and i didn't think that little plastic bit from some wrangler's bumper was that big of deal. I made a mistake. But i'm sure you don't know what thats like as you are perfect apparently.
And yes, i do pick up lots of crap and generally leave trails in better condition than i found them. I just don't always have cameras that catch it, nor do i feel like adding all that into the vids just to virtue signal. I have now edited this out if that makes you feel better.
@@FearlessTrailhawk Didn't mean to co.e across so harsh, of course we all make mistakes. I appreciate you removing it as we face teail closures all too often and I hate to give them anymore ammo. Keep up the great videos, I really do appreciate the content