Surface Book 2 for Artists Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- Lisa Gade reviews the Surface Book 2 specifically for 2D and 3D artists in this video. She demos Photoshop CC, Clip Studio Paint and SketchBook Pro and talks about line jitter, tilt, palm rejection and overall feel compared to alternative technologies like Wacom EMR. This video covers the 13.5” and 15” Surface Book 2 models with NVIDIA GTX 1050 and GTX 1060 graphics.
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I rarely comment but you're my favorite tech reviewer, I really appreciate how thorough you are with the review and you keep artists in mind
Yes. I second that.
Yeah, she really is the best out there.
I've watched probably 20 comparison vids etc in my search for a new 2 in 1 laptop and this is the FIRST TIME that someone showed you can reverse the surface book screen. I'm slightly SHOOK
My jaws literally just dropped when I saw her do that.
"Poverty gloves" every so often one of your zingers just makes me laugh out loud, haha
You're my absolute favorite for reviews of any kind. I've never seen anyone even close to your quality. Artist reviews are icing on the cake. Thank you!
Your reviews are the best in the business, honest, accurate, packed with details, actual use experience and no PR-fluff. Thank you!
This is THE most informative tech review channel I've ever found... No annoying loud music, no lousy jokes. Thank you. Seriously.
I wasn’t told to leave a thumbs up if I liked this vid. 🤔
"Poverty gloves" I love it!
Another honest, realistic review. Thanks Lisa!
Although I watch lots of reviews and rarely comment, I have found myself always trying to find yours for the final word. There is something about you that sounds honest and down to earth... like, you do not make us the people watching feel left out, acting all superior as many other reviewers do.
I think you are awesome :D
I've been waiting for this!!! Thank you.
Nice one Lisa 🙌
New subscriber, bought myself the Surface Book 2 last week after seeing your review and really loving it so far. This is another fantastic review, thank you.
Thank you again for another great review! I appreciate the time you put in making all of your videos!
Wow I'm so glad I found you! You're helping me tons! This is exactly the video I needed.
Another great review! I have a Sony Vaio Flip currently, and I find that rather than use a glove, I just go into the device manager, disable the touch screen to draw and then enable it again when I'm done. This works particularly well if you're using the laptop as a lightbox to draw something on actual paper too.
I am so happy to see a girl tech review
She is really honest with us too
Exactly, with no unnecessary flair too.
Awesome review Lisa! I'm not an artist myself but this was very interesting to see! I actually bought a surface Book 2 15" because of your original review!
Great video as usual Lisa!!!
Really enlightening and honest review, thank you !
Good, Honest and sincere review, love your work.
To aid in the dispense of the starving artist myth I'll be picking up my 15 inch Surface Book 2 in the morning.
My current projects include designing a 3D belt buckle model, a 3D lapel pin model, an animation for a karate school, 18 illustrations for a children's text book.
Thanks for the great and relevant review.
As mentuoned by another commenter, I really appreciate how thorough you are as a reviewer. You really get into whatI feel is very much lacking in other reviews by outlets like TechRadar and such.
This was super helpful - thank you 🙏
I really like you. Thank you for taking the time to show us these reviews. :-)
Thank you for a clear review!
Yes! Thank you for this! Made my day 😁
I’d like to thank you for taking the time to address the CAD and designer demographic.. considering products like the surface and iPad pros are targeted for these types of consumers it’s amazing that no tech sites review these products from a design approach. I mean.. some of them don’t even bother with a review on the stylus. Anyway great channel, thanks again.
That was a real good review, Thx !!
I love this woman’s reviews and videos.
"...Y'all laugh at me for my poverty gloves..." Lisa, I'm going to call and book you on Def Comedy Jam.
Really like your reviews
The most incredibly detailed review ever! And you're a awesome artist as well. What program did you use to draw the sketch of the man's head?
omg i have to try the glove thing. thank you for this video!
This was excellent. Thank you.
Poverty gloves lol
I died lol
No joke the most informative reviews of tablets I have found. Watched a lot of yours in my research to buy a drawing tablet. Poverty gloves forced me to finally comment. Bravo lol.
For me, the difference between Wacom and Surface pens is something like the difference between pencil/chalk on paper (the Wacom has more "tooth" as you draw) and pen and ink on glossy paper (the Surface feels a little more freely flowing and "slippery.").
Since I prefer pen and ink as physical media, I like the Surface pens quite a bit. I was very happy about the Surface Pro 4 pen upgrade -- the original SP3 pen was too slippery and hard to control. The pen nib choices with the newer Surface pens are a nice touch -- you can fine-tune the physical feel to your preference a bit. (Not a lot, but it helps.) I have an iPad Pro and like it fine, but the Apple pencil seems more slippery to me and I prefer the physical feel of the Surface pens.
Thanks for a detailed review! I'm almost certainly going to get one of these for my next upgrade. I keep reading reviews to see if I can be talked out of it and pointed toward something cheaper, but apparently not!
I love your reviews
Thank you so much this helped a lot
Hi!! Great videos! I watched almost your entire channel before buying the surface book 13”!! I just couldn’t make my mind on buying one option or the other hehe
Would you recommend using a screen protector on it? In that case, and if you have tested more than one brand, which one do you think would make the pen feel more Wacom-alike?
Thank you!
Thank you for the Review...
Thanks for a great review. I was wondering... at about 1:15 you show yourself drawing on it at what sems to be a low (but not flat) angle (about 20-30 degrees to the ground ?). a) Is that just the hinge supporting it at that angle, or do you have some kind of prop behind it ? And b) I noticed your right hand is holdoing onto the bottom right edge - is that just a preference/habit or do you feel the need to steady the tablet becasue it bounces or shifts as you draw ?
Great video as usual! Keep it up!
Got a quick question, maybe you bumped into this issue/heard something about it... here it goes :
Got my surface book 2 yesterday, it seems that the battery inside the dock/keyboard isnt charging. Geetting a message of “connected not chargin”, also the 1060 gpu doesnt seem to get enough power from the power adapter. (Power adapter light is turned on and i can charge the tablet part when detached without a problem).
I tried recovery for the machine, reinstalling battery drivers and nothing seems to work :(
Bottom line battery in keyboard is at 0% and not charging
I'm here just to cheer for EMR 😝Thank you validating my prefernce Lisa!😝
Great video! What applications do you use to draw aside from Photoshop?
I lost my SH*T when you said "Poverty Gloves" OMG I'M CRACKING UP. Thank you for this!
useful comparison with Samsung. it comes to mind the Yoga 720, which 45-watt CPU and 2GB 1050, also available with 4K panel. I have always liked the lenovo wacom pens, Yoga 370 and P40 Yoga. yet, I have only used it for note taking and very amateur photo editing. do you think the Yoga 720 is also a good device for people looking into the Surface Book 2?
You are my favourite tech tuber 💯
Hello! Since im using powerfull softwares as photoshop and the surface starts to warm up, while im using the surface pen, the palm rejection stop working when the surface book 2 is connected to the power adapter or a usb-c HDMI adapter, but only if it is resting totally horizontal (my desk). do you have any problem like this?
I would greatly appreciate your response.
LISA YOU ARE TEARING ME APART
good review tho :)
Hi Lisa, a question about just taking notes with the Surface pen.
As a student who takes notes in class everyday, will I notice an improvement, in terms of writing accuracy and smoothness, between the Surface Book 2 or Surface Pro versus the older Surface Book1 or Surface Pro 4?
Not that much of a difference for note taking, so you can save money and go with the older model.
MobileTechReview thanks for the reply. Do you notice the screen on the newer model to be more resistant to pen pressing? I.e. The screen glass is harder
Thanks for your review. Maybe you can help with an issue that is tearing me apart.
I've just installed Photoshop CC. And when i want to use the pen, and i click with the pen on the layer i want to draw, Instead of draw, it moves the workspace. Should i activate something? Thanks in advance.
i have those gloves as well but the palm rejection is not there, it picks touch up [albeit slightly less] through the fabric
it's great for the glide though, can't live without that
Now that the surface pro 7 is out, how would you say these 2 compare? For both daily use and for drawing?
Thank you very much! I have got here cause I was looking for reviews about Surface Book 2 but I wasn't sure I wanted to spend that much because I am still a beginner and I was wondering if there was a different option for me. SO...the Samsung notebook advice it is the best compromise for me! Thanks!!
Even tho I'm watching this a year later in 2018 I'm about to buy a surface book 2 and this rlly helps thanks alot
How would you compare the Hp spectre x360 15" for using photoshop, zbrush & AutoCAD. Is it worth spending extra for the 13" surface book 2?
Hi Lisa, would it be possible to do a smackdown between the surface book 2 and the ipad pro for art related things?
hi Lisa! Good review! wow you're a lefty too! woooo power to the Southpaws!
I noticed people on forums are complaining that the Surface Book 2 loses pressure sensitivity , specifically in ZBrush software. I'm considering soon a Wacom Mobile Studio or the Surface Book 2. If the Surface worked well the battery life and compact form is a win, but if ZBrush doesn't work (my main software) it's a bad purchase. Any chance you were able to test ZBrush on this ?
I luv all your videos
Could you make a recommendation for alternative stylus that are compatible with surface book 2 other than than the surface pen
Going to cut some fingers off of some of my gloves. I bought a Huion that I am going to return because I own a surface book 1 and was trying to convince myself why I wouldn't just use that. Any ideas on a good type of glove material I should cut some fingers off on that works better from your experience? Thanks for the video.
THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO AND INFORMATION WHICH I WAS REALLY LOOKING FOR... BUT CAN YOU RECOMMEND A LAPTOP WITHOUT TOUCH SCREEN...
Hey great video. How long does the tablet last on battery?
Thanks! Good review as usual! I am disappointed that for that price it has no thunderbolt! Will you review the HP ZBOOK x2? Now it has come out with a quad core 8th gen intel processor and I am interested about your judgment on it. It seems extremely expensive as well and it has only 2 GB NVIDIA Quadro M620 Graphics but is a Quadro: how is it for 4k video editing and CAD? It is only 14" but could be helpful to carry around...The good thing is that it has RAM up to 32 GB and 2 TB Z Turbo Drive MLC and a whole lot of wonderful features including the use of the keyboard also when in tablet mode... but is it too heavy to handle as a tablet? How is the keyboard? What about the speakers? How is the pen working? Parallax, lagging, palm rejection…? What about temperature handling? And battery? Will you review it any time soon? Thanks!
Do you think it’s possible to use the pen on photoshop to perform simple tasks such as the stamp tool ?
dear lisa I am very hesitant about a surfase pro tablet or a surface book 2. I want to use it for my work and as an ipad replacement. what would you recommend.
I don't know if you'd answer, but I was wondering if the Samsung one would be good for graphic designers? My projects tend to get a little big so I'm nervous it might not be too good, but I also don't really want to put too much on a device. I'm planning on getting the Surface Book 2; however, I've got my doubts
Great review as always! Could you do a smack down between the Surface Book 2 and the HP Spectre x360 15” (late 2017). I recently ordered a fully spec’d B.O.B (after watching your amazing reviews on the Spectre x360 line).
3 important differences: 1. BOB is half the price. 2. Surface Book 2 has a separable tablet, which is much lighter and easier to handle. 3. Surface Book 2's GPU is many times faster than BOB's.
MobileTechReview I got BOB because of the price. Not really worried about the weight (I’ve been lugging my 3yr Wacom Cintiq Companion 2 with a full wireless keyboard, mouse, etc) for 2D and 3D and that’s pretty heavy. Hopefully the HP will do me good for a while (even with the lower GPU. Thanks for the quick response!
AusetAnima i just received my 15 ho spectre x360 and it works like trash. Many problems with the touchpad like often not responding to the left click, highlighting or trying to move objects around when im just trying to move the pointer, and it wont respond right away when trying to scroll down/up plus it wont respond in proportion to your movement. It makes any task very annoying. On the touch screen often it wont respond to your touch. I also got that one for the price, but really it isn’t that cheap so they can be selling that crap for that price. Let me know your experience when you test it
Oscar Morales Geez that sucks. Mine arrives on Friday so I’ll definitely let you know how it works out.
The big advantage of flipping the screen and reattaching it like that, is that unlike the other laptops where the screen just flips right around, the keyboard keys will not be exposed and pressed underneath by your fingers so easily when you're holding it.
1 thing i dont like is pen precision
if we adjust pen angle while holding, the cursor will change position as well; even our pen tip touch the same point on screen,
I was really worried about how well the stylus worked on the surface book 2. Does anyone know if it is possible to connect a Wacom bamboo tablet to the surface book without messing with any of the features of the laptop? I tried searching online for answers but I haven’t found any that helped with my particular question.
@MobileTechReview I can't wait to see a review between these two versus the new HP Zbook x2 that ships out today. I really hope you get your hands on a Zbook x2. These two in the video (MobileStudio Pro & Surface Book 2) are ones I have really considered, until I read about the Zbook x2. I hope to see a review on it within a week or two. Zbook x2 comes with the Intel 7th gen i7 at launch, but 8th gen i7 early 2018.
hello, i would like to ask if the wacom cintiq 24 pen compatible with the Microsoft Surface Book 2
Hey Lisa I wanted to ask how far is lenovo 920 in terms of pen features from this machines?
So if I get it right, Surface Book 2 is the better option for somone like me, that's looking for a NoteBook to use it with Illustrator, Photoshop, Premeire and maybe a little of After Effects and gamimg sometimes to relax. Am I right? And what another option for those thing i mencioned?
that painting is gorgeous
Thanks :)
omg just what i wanted
Hey, maybe some one could help me out. As much as I understand, the difference between USB C Gen 1 and Thunderbolt 3 is speed. Basically I could connect a hub that has thunderbolt 3 but get less speed? Of course I have to use proper cables like with power delivery as so.
My main concern is what I lose with just regular gen 1?. What resolution external monitor I could connect?
Whether Lenovo Thinkpad T serious is a good option for 2D and 3D artists... Whats the difference between T570, T470s & T470p. Kindly reply, Thanks...
Lisa, you are multi-talented.
Thanks for the separate review Lisa! I'm normally not bothered by a little N-Trig line squiggle (owned other Surface devices before), but I've had it so bad with the Book 2 + the new Surface pen that my handwriting becomes almost illegible in OneNote even with the poverty glove :(. The Microsoft folks don't know what's going on; if you've noticed this before, would you say it's more likely to be a pen issue, or a device issue?
Return it and get a new one
I haven't experienced that. Reboot the pen by removing the battery and putting it back in (assuming the battery isn't bad). Beyond that, I'd wonder if the OS needs a refresh and if that doesn't work, exchange it. Try one out in the store (bring your pen with you) to see if the problem occurs.
The pen reset seems to have worked really well! I don't know why I didn't think to try that before. I also noticed it is more prominent when you're annotating on "heavy" pages in OneNote, such as a lecture PDF printout.
Thanks Lisa!
MobileTechReview I tried everything and different devices and pens, but the metal touching offset issue remains reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/7of68m/surface_pro_intermittent_pen_inaccuracy_when_hand/
Kudos Lisa
4:19 Wait, you're telling me that a glove solves the N-Trig Epidemic? If that's true, I'M SOLD.
how do you reduce brush size in photoshop with shortcut?
I’m so confused about what product to get, my main function is writing, but I want to dabble more in drawing, and video editing. It seems like the surface book is the best all around, but that Samsung you brought up looks intriguing 😫 the surface book price has come down a little bit, but is it too outdated now? Help!
Thank you so much for your video's.. they are "really good" one's
What about the new Lenovo yoga 730 from artists point of view.
google pixel book w/ pixel pen has a nice algo (anti-shake) to draw with and super accurate.
How this machine related to heavy graphics works and battery reliability
If I have 2.3k would you recommend me a 1.3k laptop and a 1k wacom cintiq or this?
is the experience with the pen the same with the Surface Pro?
Wait are there pressure levels on the Surface laptop?
Hi Lisa, do you have a channel displaying your artwork? I’m a beginner who is using a new large iPad Pro. Do you have any channels you would recommend for beginner artist like myself? Great review and love your artwork. I grew up on the Hudson river ...Troy, New York. :-) Thumbs way up on this video. 👍👍
Proko, Marco Bucci, early Jazza (later ones aren't as much about how to draw) and Walid Feghali are some great channels for learning how to draw and paint digitally.
Thank you! Take care.
MobileTechReview ye jazza only does challenbes now
Thank you
I was getting frustrated right until you said "If you cut your chops on paper and pencil" then use Wacom. I recently got a Surface Book2 and I'm struggling really hard using it for art. The stylus is frustrating me to no end lol, the cursor keeps shifting every time I touch the stylus to the screen. It makes brush strokes or digitally inking line work almost impossible. Think I'll trade this in for the mobile Wacom. Thx!
I would love to have a surface book two but it’s way too expensive. I’ve been looking at the hp envy x360 but I’m not sure how good it is due to the lack of videos. If you could make a review for this, I would like that a lot. Great videos, keep it up!
comment from a 3D artist, the pen is not designed for us, because it does not have 2 programable side buttons like wacom has, which is actually needed to operate autodesk Maya, ZBrush, Nuke, Substance Painter, etc. it is like they value simplicity over functionality....
So that means we will have to buy a tablet right?
Do you recommend the new surface pro 6 instead?
UIW 3D Animation and Game Design I think this is where the surface dial comes in.
Is the other half of the glove used for billiards players?