Skyrim vs Oblivion - The Daedric Prince Quests - Which are BETTER?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- In our latest Elder Scrolls video we discuss a which game had better Daedric Quests, Skyrim or Oblivion?
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series and was released worldwide on November 11, 2011. The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim.
At FudgeMuppet, we uncover the elder scrolls lore secrets that make this game so sensational, and also have many discussions regarding our thoughts on the various games. In this video we're going to be diving into the Daedric Princes and their quests in both Skyrim and Oblivion. I love Oblivion so much, perhaps more than Skyrim (depending on my mood), so I was quite surprised when I got as objective as possible and laid all the quests out on paper to decide which game was the winner! Be sure to let us know your favorite Daedric Prince Elder Scrolls quests in the comments!
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You know what might've made Skyrim's Vaermina quest even cooler? Actually experiencing the nightmare problem yourself if you slept in Dawnstar's inn. Maybe it takes you to a small pocket of Quagmire to be tormented by high-level daedra, and when you die, you wake up.
That could be used as a training scenario. Sleep and get beat up, die and wake up, repeat. Do that enough times and you'd have 100s in all your armor skills.
@@emrek99205then the quest should be. That when you die you just die like normal. But when you win that she leaves you alone because you are too powerfull to be haunted
True ! missed opportunity that they didn't add that .
"It's just so cool to see Orcish culture up close- a culture Malacath helped create after he was swallowed in the form of Trinimac, by Boethia, and excreted"
You threw that in just to mess with Drew and the orc fans, didn't you?
Anyone else notice that Peryite is usually the "nicest" of the princes in his quests? In Oblivion, Peryite sends you to rescue a bunch of idiots who tried to summon him. In Skyrim he sends you to take out a former champion who turned cult leader. If it wasn't for the fact that he's the god of disease, he'd be downright saintly compared to the rest.
Well he is also a prince of natural order. One part of that order is disease
@@Strellok100 He's basically a more cynical Mother Nature lol
Probably why he’s the weakest of the Princes as well. His much more caring nature results in his power not being as grand as it likely could be.
Outside of Meridia and Azura, you mean? Yeah, I agree
He's the task master, what's a way to get someone to do a task, be as nice as possible and give them a task that will help people.
"A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON!"
Me: *flees*
Also the Sheogorath quest in Oblivion has alternate dialogue based on where you're at in the Shivering Isles questline.
Yah... do the sheogorath deadric quest after you beat shivering isles is nice... 😁
@@patrickaycock3655 The best time to do that quest is right at the end before you fight Jyggalag, Haskill shows up like "WTF are you doing? We're being invaded! Wait... why am I surprised by this?" *facepalm*
@@cerulee "Aren't you supposed to be at Xedilian?! Oh well never mind about that." Or my absolute favorite when you are Lord Sheogorath. Haskil going "Praying to yourself?"
*"A NEW HAND TOUC-"*
*quickloads, never opens chest again*
@@TippleCreations I ignore it in the chest. And never head back
I like the fact that in Skyrim the Daedric Princes didnt need to be confined to their shrines. It kind of sets them apart from the Aedra even more, as the Daedra are able to plant their influence themselves if they don’t have any in a specific area.
I like to think that is due to the events of oblivion weakening the barriers between the planes of existence
Umbra is by far the greatest daedric artifact, not just because it’s a great sword but it’s also one of the main plot points in the only 2 elder scrolls novels ever made.
Wait. Your here too? Didn't realize you were also a Elder Scrolls fan. Just thought Star Wars
Do you get the high ground very often? Oh what am i saying... of course you don’t
This is where the fun begins *slaugthers the children at honorhall orphanage*
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Have you heard of the high ground?
The thing I like about Molag Bol's quest in Skyrim; he doesn't just give you his mace. He gives you a whole damn house too!
That was and still is forever my first house of every game. 😅 Too bad I can't put my adopted kids in there.
really makes up for the meh attempt to take over the world in the way too squeakie clean ESO
@@LadyCoyKoi why did the thought of thinking about putting your kids in a house haunted by the prince of rape even crossed your mind!?
@@darthbigred22 this opinion never made sense to me. The main villain of ESO is the fucking king of RAPE
@@KingdomHeart556 that's the point, while i haven't played it myself... from the clips i've seen, the game is too light-hearted to be a proper game about fighting molag bal.
You guys should Remaster the Champion of Molag Bal with all this talk of Daedra, that was my favorite build from way back when
I'm playing one rn. I'd love to see it.
What I actually liked about Skyrim Daedric Princes is that not all of the them were present by human-like creature statues (like Molag Bal, Namira and Vaermina) or even had an graven image at all (like Mephala or Hermaeus Mora if we're speaking about their quests). And even statues had a variety of image and size. It was a nice design touch and gave them a sense of diversity.
A " night to remember " had to be the best daedric quest. You trash the temple of dibella , sell a goat to a giant , marry a hagraven and then end it with a party with a daedra. 😂😂😂😂
I feel like once you get over the meme value, there's no real substance behind the quest though
But you don't do that. They just tell you you did it. They tell you instead of showing you. That's so lazy.
@@Filip_Agrippa but you do????
If actually embraced the fun of the quest you would’ve realized that there’s more to it than you’d like to believe.
If you wander around the plains near Rorikstead you’ll find a giant with Gleda, the goat you sold.
If you go to Witchmist grove, you’ll find the hagraven you almost got married to.
If you didn’t go through the whole quest using speech, then you would’ve found out why the quest is fun.
Also you’re drunk, so your character wouldn’t have remembered this stuff anyway because you blacked out.
The whole thing is straight out of a Hangover film.
@@Filip_Agrippa That's part of the fun. It's a classic "what the hell did I do last night" story that you'd never expect to see in an Elder Scrolls game. It's basically one of the Hangover movies but with demons and witches
I'd never been to Markarth when I did it so I had it and the forsworn conspiracy tied together. Basically one drink led to going to prison for me. It was quite the detour as I think I was on the main quest at the time.
"The rim of all holes" beautiful...
Sounds luke an interesting job.
I re-wound to check I heard that one correctly.
something about skyrim's world always makes me feel so immersed where ever i go. im very happy i discovered skyrim years ago and im happy i discovered your channel :)
1:27 Azura - Skyrim
2:56 Boethiah - Skyrim
4:32 Clavicus Vile - Oblivion
6:19 Hermaeus Mora - Skyrim
8:01 Hircine - Skyrim
9:27 Malacath - Skyrim
11:01 Mephala - Oblivion
12:31 Meridia - Skyrim
13:50 Molag Bal - Oblivion
16:10 Namira - Skyrim
18:01 Peryite - Skyrim
19:20 Sanguine - Skyrim
21:15 Sheogorath - Oblivion
23:15 Vaermina - Skyrim
Winner: Skyrim 10
Oblivion: 4
Excluded: Mehrunes Dagon, Nocturnal ( no "shrine" quest in Oblivion/ Skyrim respectively)
I feel like people who say Skyrim for most of these know little about the lore😂
This channel is literally a Skyrim simp channel so ofc Skyrim won lol
I liked praying at your "own shrine" via becoming sheogorath in oblivion, I had a good laugh at that, and I believe he comments on our Madness as we are praying at our own shrine even when we are already the god depicted
Puny mortals debating oblivion vs skyrim, clearly the answer the game with the most cheese.
People just don't understand the pleasure one can get when playing golf with a horsespine while lollygagging very slowly from hole to hole. And afterwards cheese and a round of transforming mortals into cows.
Wise words from Sheogorath
Skyrim - 2500
Oblivion- 68
When comparing Merida's quests, those unique shades win it for Skyrim on their own
What about Dawnbreaker?
@@goldedrag111 True, but this is a ranking of the quests, not the artifacts.
In my opinion, Meridia's Skyrim quest was better.
I mean, it's ultimately a choice between a dungeon crawl, and a dungeon crawl with a set piece.
@@ElectromagNick My first Elder Scrolls game was Skyrim.
I can’t wait to see the quests in Skyrim 6
@@ethanstrs shhh let them believe that
R/WHOOSH
R/WHOOSH
You must be trolling
@@ethanstrs well he was joking
For The Cursed Tribe quest, I remember on one playthrough Yamarz actually ended up defeating the giant, much to my surprise. I don’t think Bethesda anticipated this happening so he just talked to me as if I killed the giant and I still had to kill him. I think it would’ve been cool if there was an alternate route where Yamarz actually wins and is recognized by Malacath, and so you don’t get Volendrung but instead get a gold reward from him and get named as Blood-kin.
Mephala’s quest in Skyrim is ridiculously underwhelming. Boethia is meh in both. Vaermina in Oblivion wins for me.
They scrapped most of the Mephala quest in Skyrim, originally Balgruuf's kid is supposed to kill him, making the other guy Jarl, but well..
@@Replica2901 Sounds terrible having to kill one of the few good Imperial-aligned Jarls
@@Replica2901 I agree on Vaermina tower was really cool
Actually, after you get the star at the fort, that's when you get the choice to have the black star or Azura's star, by taking it to Nelacar he sends you inside the star to kill the mage and it becomes the black star and can't turn it back, or by taking it to Azura where she sends you inside instead and it turns into Azura's star and you get the follower
*GIMME ORC LORE* #GREENFREEDOM
the minorities are ignored in the empire
Sorry but the hist knows little of your kind and cares even less.
@@patrickaycock3655 you are but a puppet to the hist, scaley one
@@MrMoose-bl7jv 🤣 nice one! But im still cool with that.
But i do agree its past time for more good orc lore.
Lol the poop people want there Lore talked about😂😂😂
Awesome face off. I've been playing the games same Daggerfall. I can say that every generation cuts out something that I like from the previous ones (insane number of factions and wall climbing, plus day night cycle npc schedule cut from Daggerfall to Morrowind, all but basic factions plus open cities (until DLC added knights) cut from Morrowind to Oblivion (but they added day/night npc schedules back in!), and mages, along with the feeling of true guild progression cut from Oblivion to Skyrim) but I still enjoy each new generation for what it improves on. Tighter questing, more “alive” npc's, more fluid leveling systems and combat mechanics. This video was a great reminder that nostalgia can make things way better than reality.
Nostalgia has jack shit to do with this,the older games ARE BETTER, and the fact that everyone now days say that the only right way to play skyrim is with mods, and normaly most of the recommended mods are just adding back mechanics from the older games that skyrim stripped down to become more "casual friendly" also speaks volumes that skyrim popularity from back then was because it was the new shinyiest toy of the moment, just like today its because this game has been relaunched for every single eletronic imaginable and because the mod authors managed to keep the game alive by essentisly morphing it into a entirely mew game.
Oblivion vs Skyrim: The writing
Jk, but with this type of videos it would be awesome to see several videos comparing the guilds from Oblivion & Skyrim. Alot of good content there
I think both games have their pros and cons. The quests themselves are more creative in Oblivion, but the way you discover the quests are more interesting in Skyrim since they all seem to be out of natural consequence as opposed to visiting a shrine.
Both have some very good ones. And very meh ones...
I agree that the daedric quests in themselves might way in the favor of Skyrim however I very much preferred the daedric shrines in oblivion. I enjoyed the concept of seeking them out to pledge allegiance to the daedric princes rather than starting a quest and halfway realising that my character was on their way to now dabble with the daedra.
Interacting with other followers of the daedric princes without having to murder them was also something that I think gave the daedra a more interesting position in the world. In Skyrim most deadric gods do not have any followers or have their followers only to betray them.
I always found it kind of boring tho. I quite liked stumbling upon a daedric quest without realising it cus it felt like how the prince's would act with people in the elder scrolls world. That's just me tho
Morrowind had the best Daedric quests, they were so obscure and actually forced you to really figure out how to solve all the puzzles (unless you used an online guide or something similar)
I liked having to find random stuff giving an offer had a really good lore feeling
Oblivion's Sheogorath looks like an eccentric noble, fittingly enough. Skyrim's looks like a Felldew smoker.
"Ignoring the pain of accidentally finding Meridia's beacon..." HAHAHAHA I literally had to pull out the plug of my speakers when it happened.
This was a very cool video, great job mates. I always felt Skyrim did daedric quests better overall over Oblivion, tho Oblivion’s rewards felt more powerful and unique. As for the next Skyrim vs Oblivion video I’d like to see, I’d be very interested in you guys going over the Dark Brotherhood quest lines. Keep up the good work as always
Oblivions wins by a country mile. The murder mystery house, the feeling of progression throughout it all from accepting jobs from different members, the purification, the dead drops getting switched, murdering a matriarch and killing her ENTIRE family. Man I loved that questline
@@windebiesteultima3317 I also love dark brotherhood of oblivion but skyrim is close to heart
I mean oblivion had a whole questline revolving around sheogorath, its like comparing skyrim's harmaeus mora to oblivion's, or comparing morrowinds azura to Oblivion's, Try comparing oblivion's namira to skyrim's namira. Skyrim wins here by a mile.
I disagree
That's...what he did? He specifically said he was excluding the Shivering Isles and Dragonborn DLCs, as well not comparing Dagon's Skyrim quest against Oblivion's Main Quest and not comparing Skyrim's Thieves Guild against Nocturnal's quest in Oblivion
@@Galimeer5 I wrote that comment b4 watching the video 😂
But still I think sheogorath in oblivion had a more fleshed personality because he was such an integral part to the story imo, unless of course Bethesda never planned a shivering Isles dlc when they made oblivion
Shivering isles easily beats Dragonborn dlc
The reason for difference between Oblivion ans Skyrim Sheogorath is that they are two different version of Prince of Madness, since Skyrim one is Hero of Kvatch. So it make more sense that his quest in Skyrim would be to help someone to be cured of madness rather than spread it like the other one did in Oblivion.
Skyrim's Namira quest was definitely better. It was the only thing I've ever done in a video game where I felt uneasy after doing it.
Imagine if TES6 had entire questlines for Daedric artifacts instead of just single quests.
Or even a single questline that pulls every daedric prince into the story and you have to choose one of them to side with, getting their artifact by the end.
I don't want that. One thing I appreciate about Skyrim was it had a really long playthrough. It was unrealistic in world that say you can be DB and TG while also be a Companion BUT it didn't make you make a new character for that either. There is part of me that really enjoys how confusing the Daedra and Aedra must have it when the Hero of Kvatch or Dragonborn die since almost everyone has a claim to him.
But I'd rather have that than need to make a new character and slog through everything again just to get Azura's Star. Plus almost all the Daedra are evil so who reallly wants to quest that long for any of them?
Now that said I wouldn't mind a flip side to every faction. Say I go Fighter's guild so that means no DB or TG but instead you exterminate them. You join the cult of the 9s or you pick a daedra but either way you attack the other members and defile their religious artifacts.
My biggest bitch in Skyrim is smithing is so good most of the daedric artifacts are just that artifacts. They should scale up with the player so that when you get them you don't just stick them in a display case. That and a lot of them just suck anyways. Oh thanks for this mace i don't use because i don't use maces Molag.
Imagine if sheogorath realized that you were able to load a save. Would be sick
Honestly my favorite channel, keep it up dudes
I even don't remember not even one Daedric quest in Skyrim (last time played like a couple years ago) and I remember all Daedric quests from Oblivion (last time played like a 12years ago). Of course my vote - Oblivion.
Oblivion: You having to gather stuff and find the shrines to summon the Deadric Princes.
Skyrim: The princes basically hunting you down.
Cause in Skyrim you're the Last Dragonborn, Akatosh's precious youngest child, destined to become one of the most powerful mortals on Nirn. What Daedric Prince *wouldn't* want to take a crack at you? You're like the last action figure on the shelf, one of a kind. That's gotta be like catnip to them.
When it came to the Skyrims cannibal quest, at the dinner table I turned into a werewolf and killed them all and saved the priest.
I used to be bothered that you didn't get Goldbrand in Skyrim and wondered why. Then i realized its because the fucking Emperor has it
Oblivion: Nearly all the Daedric quests were phenomenal.
Skyrim: Half of them are eh... and the rest are good.
I think it's clear which one wins.
I have to highly disagree. I've done the Oblivion ones recently, and most of them aren't that great in my opinion. Some of them just felt generic and lack luster. It's not Morrowind levels where it just felt like any other quest, but Skyrim did but in a lot more effort in making them click with their princes.
In Oblivion, the daedra quests seemed to be really cool, but only in contrast to the more boring quests you’d find in Oblivion (not knocking the game, it’s one of my favorites from Bethesda and my introduction into elder scrolls).
Skyrim, in my opinion, did a much better job of actually capturing the identity of each Daedric Prince. They also felt a lot more natural. There was something so weird about just stumbling upon a cult to Malacath or Vermina. At least in Skyrim, it felt like something almost led you to an area rather than you literally searching out Daedric shrines.
Like the Molag Bal quest introduction was beyond perfect. You think you’re helping out this random Vigilant of Stendarr clear out a house full of Daedra. If you haven’t played the game before, you might even think you are starting a whole new Daedra hunter questline by joining the Vigilants.
Then suddenly Molag Bal starts talking, literally shaking the house like a demonic force of some kind. Then forcing you to kill the man who asked for your help.
You know what would be kind of cool? A wolfwalker type build. If you used the Triumvirate mod, you get get some cool nature inspired mods, and you could be a werewolf with unarmed skill. And you can cash in on that sweet sweet Ancient Irish aesthetic ❤️
Watching these videos about Oblivion, I'm surprised by just how much quests I missed in it. God I love Oblivion so much.
Before I even watched: i love Oblivion but of course skyrim's daedra quests are better , Oblivion's daedric quests are at the lvl of Skyrim's guild quests: go to dungeon finish dungeon come back, ocasionaly get an instresting quest. but skyrim's daedra quests are whole different thing each one is unique (almost) and intresting just like Oblivion's regulat quests! lol
Wait... The molag bal quest in skyrim has the priest spawn randomly?!? I've got almost 2,000 you're in that game, and he's only ever spawned in ONE location, that I could run to blindfolded by now!
dude same
...good god, whoever came up with the title of 'Rim of all Holes' did NOT think it through. Although, I now have a very funny idea for a scene for my Skyrim story involving a t-ed off Azura.
Honestly, I think I prefer the idea of not knowing that you are going in on a Daedra quest until its to late. For many of the less pleasent ones, it makes a lot more sense for them to get more joy out of claiming the Soul of some random dude who doesnt even realize hes screwing himself over someone who intentionally goes up to their shrine.
Anybody who thinks Sheogorath's questline in Skyrim is better than the one in Oblivion didn't fucking play Oblivion, nor, obviously therefore, The Shivering Isles. That plot twist is still legendary. More content = more lore. More lore = more fun.
4:20 what's the sword on Boethiah's Champion.
11:33 also what's the armor set on the table with Ebony Blade.
you can obtain both Hiercen ring and Saviors hide in Skyrim which is epic.
I actually prefer having to find the shrines in Oblivion. I like that the daedric quests are a choice. Some of the quests in Skyrim feel forced upon you and I often find myself taking detours in Markarth to avoid the priest of Stendarr.
Wait what was the armour with the ebony blade?
whiterun noble's armor it's placed the buy the guard armor replacer mod
I think it’s a tie for clavicous vile. In Skyrim he’s like yea so I hate the dog so much just kill him with the axe and you can have it. The axe is so badass looking and after killing barbarous with it; you find out it’s literally the shittiest axe in the game. I felt Vile personally pulled one on me
That’s the point of clavicus vile😂 he pulls fast ones on everyone
"a 90s cartoon evil mastermind, kill the unicorn"
Or a 80s demon god that sounds a lot like Tim Curry 😃
I feel like one point I have to give Skyrim is moving away from the 'Shrine' mechanic. Outside of the quests themselves, I feel like it got super repetitive that ALL of the Daedric quests are tied to these shrines that you have to make an offering to. Whereas in Skryim, the Daedric quests generally aren't 'advertised' as Daedric quests. For most of the Skyrim quests, you don't know you're even DOING a Daedric quest until after you begin, so there's a fun surprise factor in it.
Plus, I have to give Sheogorath's Skyrim quest some extra points for the fun callbacks to Oblivion and the sheer novelty of actually MEETING the previous PC of an Elder Scrolls game.
I agree with FudgeMuppet. I like Oblivion better overall, but the Daedric quests in Skyrim were better. How about Sheogorath's quest from Morrwind where he has you kill a giant bull netch with a fork!!!
I don’t like the Daedric Quest but they are cool I think my favorite quest in Skyrim is Azura quest because it interesting also Sheograh quest is cool I know he a fan favorite my least favorite is that quest where you get a opition to kill a dog
I’m on a FudgeMuppet binge right now and suddenly came across on this fairly recent video and I’m just surprised and now I don’t know why I’m even writing this comment o.0
In many ways oblivion is the better game. I might have a bias due to nostalgia, but I think the argument can be made
I agree. I don’t like the NPC AI/dialogue and the graphics (too “soft” and “pretty” if you get what I mean), but story, lore, and debatably gameplay is better. Skyrim relies too much on radiant quests and dungeon delving. Oblivion gets you do other things, like thievery.
@@Wired_User I feel like the quests are more in-depth also in oblivion. For example the dark brotherhood doesn’t have you kill an emperor, but there’s a lot more to the quests. Thieves guild too. Hell, even the fighters guild beats the companions in my book.
So weird you guys posted this video the day I started playing Oblivion again for the first time in 5 years.
can you do a video about the pilgrim's quest? or playing as a good aligned character in oblivion vs skyrim 🌈✨
While there's really no contest on who did it better but Mage's Guild.
maybe it’s because i played skyrim first but i prefer skyrim’s way of doing deadric quests. where some you must find the shrines and where others you begin a quest but come to realize that you are dealing with the deadric princes some amount of time into the quest.
Skyrim vs Oblivion final main story quest line. Or the Main story quest line over all.
Since most people I've asked have said that it's the best questline in both games, I think you should compare Oblivion and Skyrim's Dark Brotherhood questlines at some point.
I hope these quests will have actual consequences in ES6 in terms of worshiping the princes (like with the wintersun mod) and not just selling your soul to literally everyone
What mods are you using they look awesome
Yes but Nocturnals quest completely changes the game in Oblivion. The Skeleton key changes everything.
You have to sneak up on the unicorn then you can mount it and ride around on it
I don't like Peryites quest in Skyrim purely because of how slow they talk
You know what I just realized sheogorath look just like Jim Pickens
I don't like the Ebony Blade in Skyrim. It has the lowest attack power of any two handed weapon, even lower than an iron great sword, and while it has the speed of a single hander, it also has the shorter reach while at the same time keeping you from having a shield, all the while it's damage can't be upgraded via smithing. It's endless heal enchantment is nice, but because it's otherwise so weak compared to literally anything else you can use if you invest in smithing, it takes the enjoyment out of fights by making you close to invincible while making the fights 2 or 3 times longer.
Hands down oblivion's. Skyrim's just felt lacking there were no shrines to find you just "Randomly" stumbled on the quest givers that in no way went out of their way to hunt you down. Oblivion's felt cool sure the offering could be a bit annoying to find sometimes but they were all unique where as Skyrim were mostly go her kill this guy and your down.
Honestly Skyrim needed to do better as the game is newer and supposed to be an upgrade. Still happy Skyrim did the deadric quests really well
I don't know a single soul that prefers meridia's quest in skyrim
"Traumatize the residents" It sure as hell traumatised me
I think if you had given each a rank from 1 to 10 or something similar that Oblivion would come out on top. It really is much closer than it seems.
Companions vs Fighters Guild
I always felt in Oblivion was better at making the Daedra and Gods feel like... well that. Anyone can talk to the Divines, but they will pass judgement on any and all crimes committed. Daedra are not linked to this world, and require rituals to contact them. However they don't really care about your morals
Also the Daedric Artifacts actually did unique things and, with the exception of the Wabbajack, felt more like the artifacts of deities rather than "a really cool looking mace with a mediocre stamina enchantment".
Let's face it, people started Skyrim and Oblivion due to the exploration and lore, but stay because they are moded like no tomorrow to fix the errors Bestada refuses to fix. So I like to see you do Which are Better? Skyrim vs Oblivion mods to compare which is better.
Does Skyrim add compelling story mods that rival Oblivion stories?
Which makes gameplay more enjoyable, including added new enemies?
What game story changing mod is best?
Skyrim vs oblivion towns and cities
"A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON"
right?
By the Nine I had just gotten over that shouting and now it's back ringing in my head. Thanks a bunch, milk drinker.
Yesss a really good video
I’d like to see the mages guild from oblivion compared to the college of winterhold in Skyrim
Mages guild would win easily. Winterhold was way to short and not much magic is even used. You could probably get by using staffs of whatever spell..
@@69inetails true, maybe a comparing of the main quest lines and the idea of the main character in each quest.
I actually did forget the dog rain and like skyrim's better
this comment will probably not be noticed but can we get a conspiracy theory about Jyggalag being the main focus for elder scrolls 6? As far as I know he's running around free in oblivion thanks to the hero of Kvatch separating him from Sheogorath, and as he was originally the Daedric god of order wouldnt it make sense for him to put his hand into the current situation that has befallen Tamerial due to the civil war thats breaking out in the Empire, the Dunmer's homeland being shattered because of red mountain, Hammerfell civil war againts the Thalmor even Skyrim of civil war of course. He can directly gain alot of power since everyone would want peace and order in their lives which are things he can directly provide compared to everyone else, after all he is the Lord of Order. Its hard to think up of a main enemy you can really see without it being defaulted to Thalmor invading, or the Dragons coming. And going back in time is kinda outa the question as its basically considered tradition to at least move each series some time after the previous entry so it wouldnt be a bad idea to pull an oldie out that is still alive afterall.
I very much doubt he would try to sort out tamriel’s problems, yes he is the daedric Prince of order, but that doesn’t mean he cares about tamriel’s order. Most daedra care little for how mortals interact with eachother.
@@Delete240 He would try to stop the chaos in tamriel to bring Order to it, its literally his whole shtick, and he definitly would care since going after the daedra to bring order to their realms would end in failure since he isnt powerful enough so why not go after the 1 thing they cant go to? Tamriel, Daedra actively can not do much of anything thanks to Martin and since we have 0 knowledge on what Jyg is fully capable of outside of lore, its very possible the lunatic might know a way into tamriel that the others dont know about. its basically guesswork and outside of shanking more thalmor I dont know what else an enemy we could get.
You say that Oblivion was your first Elder Scrolls game and you'll try not to be biased towards it yet I feel you're actually biased towards Skyrim.
Skyrim Peryite has my favorite dungeon.
My least favourite dungeon😂
@@Delete240 Eh, it had some cool dwemer civilian-looking city ruins, unique enemies and nice lore. And the crazy teleporting boss is insanely good as a permanent thrall. That daedric shield reward was ok. But to each his own!
@@lobstrosity7163 I’m not talking about the rewards, those are fine, I just hate going through the dungeon
"Daedric princes are a cornerstone of the Elder Scrolls lore"- except they hadn't even been created when Arena came out.
"Unforgettable rewards" - which is why most of their artifacts go into a treasure chest never to be used by most players because the stats aren't really that great. The Wabbajack is the only one that stands out. The rest are okay in the early game but due to how leveled lists work, the early game copies have junk stats.
Give me one example of a Daedric Artifact in Skyrim that is a leveled item.
Unforgettable rewards? As if the skeleton key, azura’s star, umbra, the ebony blade, ebony mail, dawn breaker, mehrunes razor, saviours hide, rueful axe, spellbreaker, etc were all forgettable rewards.
I hate what skyrim did to the orcs. In oblivion we are told that orcs have cities and live civilized lives just like the other races. but skyrim screws it up by making them just a bunch of primitives.
The rim of all holes is the funniest shit ever wtf 😂
But Skyrim's Ebony Blade quest has one of the biggest twists in either game. Mephala is revealed too have the form of a cupboard on Nirn.
I never thought about it like that hahahaha
The bucket and fusrodah glitch?
The Daedra in the Cupboard
Lydia’s ASMR twin...
Mephala is a cupboard, confirmed canon
*”Sometimes I dream about cheese”*-Lord Sheogorath
I actually just had a dream about raiding Molag bal's fridge for cheese! Or wait... did that actually happen? Ha! No matter!
@Samus Aran Paneer. Cotija. Mammoth.
E'erbody like cheese.
@@ShortStoryLuke WAIT
Behold the power of cheese! Jyggalag doesn't like cheese... No matter... There can still be a celebration if you don't like cheese
@@sheogoraththedaedricprince9675 FOR THE LAST TIME I TOLD.... Oh, Erm... Thank you for accepting me.
I feel like Skyrim's daedric quests were too short. Especially Molag Bal's where you basically just rescue a guy from the forsworn, kill him at his shrine, and now you have the strongest mace in the game.
Resurrection scene was cool though. Now we know Princes easily bring someone back to life.
it was also too linear, if you were a moral character you were fucked with the molag bal quest, no way of betraying bal.
I feel like *most* of Skyrim's quests and questlines were too short tbh
@@thatguy-yn8ji There definitely needed to be a way to screw over Molag Bal in that quest, like in Vaermina's quest. My only explanation is that they ran out of time and said, "Screw it, you can just refuse to finish the quest. Done."
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You can kill the priest of Boethiah instead of rescuing him. That's the only other way to resolve the quest that I am aware of.
I'm totally in the Oblivion camp for Boethia, the tournament of ten bloods was too epic and you could play a good character and participate in the quest
Yeah, the one in Skyrim is cool and all with more interesting visuals along with pushing more for the lore-literal side of Boethiah's betrayal aspect but the tournament thing was just too cool. Pity it just looks like another one of Dagon's realms but that's just reusing content I guess lol. Personally would give it to Oblivion for that one.
@@thebeyblademaniac i didn’t even play oblivion, but that quest looks so sick
In general I prefer Skyrim but bothieas quest in oblivion is better IMO and it has better rewards such as high level amour potions and of course gold brand
Exactly. It's definitely more fun then "Go bandit cave"
Yeah overall I prefer skyrim, but oblivion boethiah quest easily takes the cake. Im biased though because I love doing gladiatorial combat in games amd that stuff was awesome in oblivion. Like the ebony mail more than gold brand though.
My favorite detail about the Sheo quest in Oblivion is if you've done the Shivering Isles questline the dialogue changes completely.
"Praying to yourself my lord? Well I suppose to be expected, lord of madness and all" haskil is honestly one of the best characters in all of TES
It changes depending on where you are in the quest around the middle sheogorath acts somewhat more kindly to you sorta hard to tell with sheogorath
And if you do it right before sheogorath becomes jyggalag it's more melancholic for sheogorath anyways "Good work. Good times! Here's a little reward for your efforts. One of my toys. Now, back to business. Before I forget myself."
My favorite part of the "ill met by moonlight" quest was after killing the stag, if you were close enough the spirit would eat the grass and then put its mouth in your face chewing grass. Hircines a mad lad.
If they hadn’t scrapped some of the cut content of the Daedric quests (like the supposed “Giant Room” in Mind of Madness), then things would’ve been better
Or Mephala's quest in Skyrim. That thing was gonna be a mind warper.
@@heavymetalmusichead4969 There's a mod that restores the second cut Boethiah Quest. The one where she commands you to assassinate Jarl Elisif. I usually wait till the Civil War is finished before going through with it.
@@10tailedbijuu they better be. they keep failing with 76 years after its beta launch. Microsoft does not want them to lose market value.
@@MLPDethDealr32 What’s the name of the mod, and is it available on consoles?