Anyone else notice that Peryite is usually the "nicest" of the princes in his quests? In Oblivion, Peryite sends you to rescue a bunch of idiots who tried to summon him. In Skyrim he sends you to take out a former champion who turned cult leader. If it wasn't for the fact that he's the god of disease, he'd be downright saintly compared to the rest.
I feel like Skyrim's daedric quests were too short. Especially Molag Bal's where you basically just rescue a guy from the forsworn, kill him at his shrine, and now you have the strongest mace in the game.
@@thatguy-yn8ji There definitely needed to be a way to screw over Molag Bal in that quest, like in Vaermina's quest. My only explanation is that they ran out of time and said, "Screw it, you can just refuse to finish the quest. Done."
You know what might've made Skyrim's Vaermina quest even cooler? Actually experiencing the nightmare problem yourself if you slept in Dawnstar's inn. Maybe it takes you to a small pocket of Quagmire to be tormented by high-level daedra, and when you die, you wake up.
That could be used as a training scenario. Sleep and get beat up, die and wake up, repeat. Do that enough times and you'd have 100s in all your armor skills.
@@emrek99205then the quest should be. That when you die you just die like normal. But when you win that she leaves you alone because you are too powerfull to be haunted
It changes depending on where you are in the quest around the middle sheogorath acts somewhat more kindly to you sorta hard to tell with sheogorath And if you do it right before sheogorath becomes jyggalag it's more melancholic for sheogorath anyways "Good work. Good times! Here's a little reward for your efforts. One of my toys. Now, back to business. Before I forget myself."
I'm totally in the Oblivion camp for Boethia, the tournament of ten bloods was too epic and you could play a good character and participate in the quest
Yeah, the one in Skyrim is cool and all with more interesting visuals along with pushing more for the lore-literal side of Boethiah's betrayal aspect but the tournament thing was just too cool. Pity it just looks like another one of Dagon's realms but that's just reusing content I guess lol. Personally would give it to Oblivion for that one.
In general I prefer Skyrim but bothieas quest in oblivion is better IMO and it has better rewards such as high level amour potions and of course gold brand
Yeah overall I prefer skyrim, but oblivion boethiah quest easily takes the cake. Im biased though because I love doing gladiatorial combat in games amd that stuff was awesome in oblivion. Like the ebony mail more than gold brand though.
"It's just so cool to see Orcish culture up close- a culture Malacath helped create after he was swallowed in the form of Trinimac, by Boethia, and excreted" You threw that in just to mess with Drew and the orc fans, didn't you?
My favorite part of the "ill met by moonlight" quest was after killing the stag, if you were close enough the spirit would eat the grass and then put its mouth in your face chewing grass. Hircines a mad lad.
"A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON!" Me: *flees* Also the Sheogorath quest in Oblivion has alternate dialogue based on where you're at in the Shivering Isles questline.
@@patrickaycock3655 The best time to do that quest is right at the end before you fight Jyggalag, Haskill shows up like "WTF are you doing? We're being invaded! Wait... why am I surprised by this?" *facepalm*
@@cerulee "Aren't you supposed to be at Xedilian?! Oh well never mind about that." Or my absolute favorite when you are Lord Sheogorath. Haskil going "Praying to yourself?"
I like the fact that in Skyrim the Daedric Princes didnt need to be confined to their shrines. It kind of sets them apart from the Aedra even more, as the Daedra are able to plant their influence themselves if they don’t have any in a specific area.
If they hadn’t scrapped some of the cut content of the Daedric quests (like the supposed “Giant Room” in Mind of Madness), then things would’ve been better
@@heavymetalmusichead4969 There's a mod that restores the second cut Boethiah Quest. The one where she commands you to assassinate Jarl Elisif. I usually wait till the Civil War is finished before going through with it.
So I wrote down my thoughts before watching. But going to post this after watching. Azura - Honestly couldn't remember her quest in Oblivion. the black star in Skyrim is a much better quest than killing yet another vampire in Oblivion. Sk1 Boethiah - Oblivion without question. My favorite Daedric quest in the game & full of amazing loot. I also love Skyrim's but Oblivion wins here. Ob1 Clavicus Vile - Ovlivion. Best weapon in the game & a good fight. Barbas annoys me in Skyrim since I often go their early to do the Hircine quest. Ob2 Hermaeus Mora - Both quests are a pain but Skyrim edges out purely because of Septimus Signus & Mora's voice acting. Sk2 Hircine - Ah my favorite prince & the one most of my characters worship. ESO included. Skyrim. Much better than just killing a unicorn. Sk3 Malacath - Skyrim. Much more memorable & enjoyable than "THESE ARE MY OGRES"! Followed by a normal dungeon. Sk4 Mephala - Hard one. Both are great. But I think Skyrim's wins by just a hair due to how the blade works in Skyrim. Making it a perfect weapon for an evil Dragonborn. Sk5 Meridia - "A NEW HAND TUTCHES THE BEACON"! Oblivion. I've grown very tired of her in Skyrim. Ob3 Molag Bal - Oblivion by a mile. Breaking an honorable man is far more fitting than saving a cultist from one of the most common enemies in Skyrim. Ob4 Namira - Oblivion's always made me laugh. But Skyrim's is truly evil feeling & I love doing Wood Elf cambial runs. Sk6 Peryite - By the divines Skyrim. Oblivion's quest is one of my most hated in the game. So long & so boring. Sk7 Sanguine - Oblivion. Skyrim's one is funny first time but after that is just a chore. Ob5 Sheogorath - Oblivion. Skyrim's quest is just a big reference bundle to Oblivion & is quite repetitive after the first time. Oblivion's is very entertaining. Ob6 Vaermina - Kind of dislike both. But I'm going to give it to Oblivion purly because of that one area with a bunch of hanging corpses & void. Gave me nightmares for a week. Very memorable. Ob7 Which leaves us with Oblivion 7 & Skyrim 7......hu....well....
even though the new hand touches the beacon is annoying I felt that the dungeon itself was better than the one in oblivion just cause you get a lot of gold from the corpse and the effect of dawnbreaker is really cool in my opinion. I mean at least her speech doesnt force you into a diaolgue box and force you to listen to her UNLIKE HERMA MORA.
I like Skyrim, but Oblivion story quests are much better. Sheogorath quest from Oblivion is unbeatable, and Molag Bal quest is unlike anything you can find in Skyrim.
Umbra is by far the greatest daedric artifact, not just because it’s a great sword but it’s also one of the main plot points in the only 2 elder scrolls novels ever made.
@@KingdomHeart556 that's the point, while i haven't played it myself... from the clips i've seen, the game is too light-hearted to be a proper game about fighting molag bal.
People just don't understand the pleasure one can get when playing golf with a horsespine while lollygagging very slowly from hole to hole. And afterwards cheese and a round of transforming mortals into cows.
What I actually liked about Skyrim Daedric Princes is that not all of the them were present by human-like creature statues (like Molag Bal, Namira and Vaermina) or even had an graven image at all (like Mephala or Hermaeus Mora if we're speaking about their quests). And even statues had a variety of image and size. It was a nice design touch and gave them a sense of diversity.
Both had pretty decent daedric quests, my favorite though would probably be molag bal’s quest in oblivion just because it was so unique albeit terrible if you think about the connotations of the quest. Overall most daedric quests are interesting and are the highlight of the elder scrolls series
something about skyrim's world always makes me feel so immersed where ever i go. im very happy i discovered skyrim years ago and im happy i discovered your channel :)
I liked praying at your "own shrine" via becoming sheogorath in oblivion, I had a good laugh at that, and I believe he comments on our Madness as we are praying at our own shrine even when we are already the god depicted
A " night to remember " had to be the best daedric quest. You trash the temple of dibella , sell a goat to a giant , marry a hagraven and then end it with a party with a daedra. 😂😂😂😂
@@Filip_Agrippa but you do???? If actually embraced the fun of the quest you would’ve realized that there’s more to it than you’d like to believe. If you wander around the plains near Rorikstead you’ll find a giant with Gleda, the goat you sold. If you go to Witchmist grove, you’ll find the hagraven you almost got married to. If you didn’t go through the whole quest using speech, then you would’ve found out why the quest is fun. Also you’re drunk, so your character wouldn’t have remembered this stuff anyway because you blacked out. The whole thing is straight out of a Hangover film.
@@Filip_Agrippa That's part of the fun. It's a classic "what the hell did I do last night" story that you'd never expect to see in an Elder Scrolls game. It's basically one of the Hangover movies but with demons and witches
I'd never been to Markarth when I did it so I had it and the forsworn conspiracy tied together. Basically one drink led to going to prison for me. It was quite the detour as I think I was on the main quest at the time.
I'd actually give Oblivion Namria and Sanguine over Skyrim's versions. The twisting nightmare world of Namira's realm corrupting the tower is truly unique and requires more innovation. And as for Sanguine, I mean aside from the spectacle of it - Countess Alessia Caro being rendered naked in-front of party guests is a reward unto itself - especially if you have sneaked around the castle before and know what she's like behind closed doors. I also have given Oblivion Nocturnal if we were allowed to count her -The Thieves Guild of Skyrim is just awful... who sells their soul to a Daedra to be "allowed" to get their stuff back for them? Also why would a guild of thieves all give their money to someone else to hold onto and not bother to check on it for TWENTY FIVE YEARS?! AND WHY WOULD SAY PERSON HANG AROUND?! So yeah, aside from the fact Noctural in Oblivion actually has you act like a thief instead of a dungeon raider, not getting the pretzel logic of that stupid quest line is it's own reward.
@@cromabu5090 Oh, I am sorry, not Namira, that is my bad, I meant Vaermina. Nightmare daedra, not Grossness daedra, sorry, my bad. That twisting nightmare tower beats the heck out of fight the frozen bandits and crazy cult members.
Hope I mean that’s your opinion but it’s a bit arrogant. I admit oblivion won what they did in this video, but Skyrim’s are without doubt better. However oblivion definitely wins in the guild department.
Mese Ktet ohhh right, yeah it was kinda cool and it certainly fit her, but the dream stride was pretty epic though. Plus it gave you a choice which unfortunately most daedric quests don’t give
I found Boethiah quite surprising after originally playing Skyrim like 20 times then remembering I owned Oblivion from 10 years ago. In Oblivion she’s presents herself as a male Daedric prince but in Skyrim he presents himself as a female Daedric prince. Clavicus Vile is also interesting as he’s more of a mischievous kid in oblivion and a deceitful adult in Skyrim. Really helps to show that he’s he daedra can appear in whatever form they feel like or whatever their devoted have chosen and created a shrine in likeness to.
I remember the relief I felt after finally ending the main quest and leaving the fiery landscapes behind. Then when I decide to do a Daedric quest, it's Peryite. Then it's 'I'm back AGAIN? Oh well...'
Dagon actually did have a daedric prince quest in oblivion, it was just DLC. It was this huge endurance run dungeon. It had a fast respawn timer so if you left partway through itd respawn and it was really long with some tough fights along the way and a pretty mean final boss fight at the end, eventually being rewarded by choosing to eat the still beating heart of dagons current champion to claim the razor or defy dagon and just steal the razor.
To be fair, he also excluded all dlc related stuff if daedric prince was related, even if razor dlc was a smaller one than shivering isles or Dragonborn with all the Mora stuff
For The Cursed Tribe quest, I remember on one playthrough Yamarz actually ended up defeating the giant, much to my surprise. I don’t think Bethesda anticipated this happening so he just talked to me as if I killed the giant and I still had to kill him. I think it would’ve been cool if there was an alternate route where Yamarz actually wins and is recognized by Malacath, and so you don’t get Volendrung but instead get a gold reward from him and get named as Blood-kin.
I find it hilarious that I did sanguines quest in Skyrim after getting married to ysolda and it’s much more hilarious when your wife tells you that you married a hagraven
Actually, after you get the star at the fort, that's when you get the choice to have the black star or Azura's star, by taking it to Nelacar he sends you inside the star to kill the mage and it becomes the black star and can't turn it back, or by taking it to Azura where she sends you inside instead and it turns into Azura's star and you get the follower
Awesome face off. I've been playing the games same Daggerfall. I can say that every generation cuts out something that I like from the previous ones (insane number of factions and wall climbing, plus day night cycle npc schedule cut from Daggerfall to Morrowind, all but basic factions plus open cities (until DLC added knights) cut from Morrowind to Oblivion (but they added day/night npc schedules back in!), and mages, along with the feeling of true guild progression cut from Oblivion to Skyrim) but I still enjoy each new generation for what it improves on. Tighter questing, more “alive” npc's, more fluid leveling systems and combat mechanics. This video was a great reminder that nostalgia can make things way better than reality.
Nostalgia has jack shit to do with this,the older games ARE BETTER, and the fact that everyone now days say that the only right way to play skyrim is with mods, and normaly most of the recommended mods are just adding back mechanics from the older games that skyrim stripped down to become more "casual friendly" also speaks volumes that skyrim popularity from back then was because it was the new shinyiest toy of the moment, just like today its because this game has been relaunched for every single eletronic imaginable and because the mod authors managed to keep the game alive by essentisly morphing it into a entirely mew game.
Morrowind had the best Daedric quests, they were so obscure and actually forced you to really figure out how to solve all the puzzles (unless you used an online guide or something similar)
i think you missed my favourite part of malacath's quest in oblivion here because after you beat the quest you can go back to the farm and see the ogres rose up against the farm owner and enslaved him which is funny although i didn't know ogres could demonstrate such agency and would have expected them to just murder the farm owner
I agree that the daedric quests in themselves might way in the favor of Skyrim however I very much preferred the daedric shrines in oblivion. I enjoyed the concept of seeking them out to pledge allegiance to the daedric princes rather than starting a quest and halfway realising that my character was on their way to now dabble with the daedra. Interacting with other followers of the daedric princes without having to murder them was also something that I think gave the daedra a more interesting position in the world. In Skyrim most deadric gods do not have any followers or have their followers only to betray them.
I always found it kind of boring tho. I quite liked stumbling upon a daedric quest without realising it cus it felt like how the prince's would act with people in the elder scrolls world. That's just me tho
Oblivion is the best elder scrolls game, because there are still rpg elements compared to Skyrim where it does not matter which race or gender you choose. Many roleplaying elder scrolls fans dont like the fact that in Skyrim you can become the best warrior in the companions and archmage at the college of winterhold. The only downside is if you become bored of the same class and skills, you cant make the switch with perks to change it like in Skyrim.
@@thomasrosendahl2783 Well, you can become the best in the fighters guild and mages guild but difference is that their progression is better than Skyrim’s and it’s much harder depending on the classes and stuff you choose. Also, I like how you didn’t compare Oblivion to Morrowind
I mean oblivion had a whole questline revolving around sheogorath, its like comparing skyrim's harmaeus mora to oblivion's, or comparing morrowinds azura to Oblivion's, Try comparing oblivion's namira to skyrim's namira. Skyrim wins here by a mile.
That's...what he did? He specifically said he was excluding the Shivering Isles and Dragonborn DLCs, as well not comparing Dagon's Skyrim quest against Oblivion's Main Quest and not comparing Skyrim's Thieves Guild against Nocturnal's quest in Oblivion
But still I think sheogorath in oblivion had a more fleshed personality because he was such an integral part to the story imo, unless of course Bethesda never planned a shivering Isles dlc when they made oblivion
Absolutely loving this recent content! Keep up the great work team! As for Skyrim vs. Oblivion, I’d love to see a comparison of each game’s main quest, going stage by stage and putting each segment of each game against each other.
Oblivion vs Skyrim: The writing Jk, but with this type of videos it would be awesome to see several videos comparing the guilds from Oblivion & Skyrim. Alot of good content there
That’s so weird I got Skyrim a year ago and it quickly became my favorite game of all time so I just got oblivion yesterday and now u upload this, PRAISE TALOS
I think both games have their pros and cons. The quests themselves are more creative in Oblivion, but the way you discover the quests are more interesting in Skyrim since they all seem to be out of natural consequence as opposed to visiting a shrine.
I've played Skyrim, Morrowind, and a good chunk of Oblivion this year, and honestly, Skyrim's is the best in my opinion. I know that people are quick to complain about Skyrim's flaws, but it does great things like how it handles Daedric quests, trying to make them fit with their princess as much as possible, to the point of trying to be selective of who would have a shrine and who wouldn't, and where. I mean, lets be honest, Namira would loath to have a shrine on the surface for all to see, so it makes sense for Skyrim to have it hidden in a crypt.
makes sense and for Nocturnal to have no shrine at all as well as herma mora in Skyrim because they are very secretive. and beside nords don't like Mora.
There was a DLC for Mehrunes Razor in Oblivion, I actually remember liking it, a secret army and a big ass cave easily took me 30-60 minutes first time through
I've always loved the voices of Mehrunez Dagon and Molag-Bal. Ever since 2012, it has sent shivers me every time I hear them. It's just so perfect for a daedric prince
I dispise the molag bal quest in skyrim. I just dont like how they pull you into it, and you have no option for denying bal or going against him in any way. The other Daedric quests where they do that in skyrim, you either have options or it doesn't require you to be tremendously wicked. And on top of that you are asked by a vigilant of stendarr, implying it may be another good quest. I know some people may disagree, but part of me honestly thinks the devs just assumed the player wants to be evil.
The deadra in skyrim just felt like more of a force in the world; like they were lurking around every corner, influencing the world. Kind of reminds me of the stories of the princes you find in books. Maybe their influence has grown since the oblivion crisis? Maybe Mancar was more successful than we think..
I can't believe it, considering how old Oblivion is, and how many millions of hours I put into it, but I had to stop this for spoilers. I haven't done all the Oblivion deadric quests. That's the biggest reason I have to boot it up again.
@@RaidoactiveBoy millions is probably an exaggeration. But I've done many things multiple times. A number of massive playthroughs. Just not all the daedric quests.
I preferred all of Oblivions. You had to find the shrines and make the choice to start the quests. In Skyrim the majority of them were forced upon you. Any quest that starts up like that by default is not a better quest. I just love going to Markarth and having to go the long way to get to the keep just to avoid being forcegreet by the priest. That was sarcasm, I despise that.
Before I even watched: i love Oblivion but of course skyrim's daedra quests are better , Oblivion's daedric quests are at the lvl of Skyrim's guild quests: go to dungeon finish dungeon come back, ocasionaly get an instresting quest. but skyrim's daedra quests are whole different thing each one is unique (almost) and intresting just like Oblivion's regulat quests! lol
Also i feel you should have addressed the dlc add-on to the sheogorath dadric quest where in haskill actually addresses the madness of the player (now sheogorath) praying to himself
6:26 hermaeus mora is infact a crab tentacle thing that evolved into eye tentacles. since daggerfall he was crab tentacle thing there is also a statue of that form somewhere in solstheim iirc.
In the Crused Tribe Quest, I saved before sending him in and continuously reloaded the save trying to figure out why he kept dying then I gave up killed the giant then Yamarz attacked me. One hit KO and I’m back on my way to the Tribe.
I do believe Skyrim had the best voice actors or actresses than Oblivion hands down. Meridia you cannot get it out of your head. I wish Skyrim did more with Molag Bal because he was my favorite voice actor.
The Daedric quests are really the only major area where Skyrim clearly outstrips Oblivion imo. You touched on this at the end, but the fact that they felt like organic quests seeded into the world - sometimes engulfing you before you even knew there was a major quest involved - made a huge difference. Oblivion's (and I say this as another person for whom Oblivion is my first and greatest TES love) were very formulaic in how they came to you - you went to a place, provided an offering, did a thing, and came back to the place, it was like an in-universe giant "QUEST HERE" floating exclamation point.
I really feel like the makers of Skyrim went really hard into quality Daedric Quests, character interactions, and a living world to make up for Oblivion's copy paste environments and goofy character interactions. However, Oblivion definitely had better guilds. Better stories, ranks, characters, and rewards than anything in Skyrim. Here's to hoping elder scrolls 6 finds a way to balance both approaches.
This makes me want to see a ranking of the daedric princes by hotness. Not just visually though. They also need a good personality, like Sanguine, the life of the party, or Malacath, who lifts you up when you fall down (albeit a but aggressively).
I hope we get longer Daedric quests in the next game. I'd love it if they treated following the Daedric Princes like joining a faction. I wouldn't even mind it if following one Prince makes another reject or abandon you. I think that adds to replayability, especially if they make it possible to steal the Deadric item if you don't want to join them.
Imagine if TES6 had entire questlines for Daedric artifacts instead of just single quests. Or even a single questline that pulls every daedric prince into the story and you have to choose one of them to side with, getting their artifact by the end.
I don't want that. One thing I appreciate about Skyrim was it had a really long playthrough. It was unrealistic in world that say you can be DB and TG while also be a Companion BUT it didn't make you make a new character for that either. There is part of me that really enjoys how confusing the Daedra and Aedra must have it when the Hero of Kvatch or Dragonborn die since almost everyone has a claim to him. But I'd rather have that than need to make a new character and slog through everything again just to get Azura's Star. Plus almost all the Daedra are evil so who reallly wants to quest that long for any of them? Now that said I wouldn't mind a flip side to every faction. Say I go Fighter's guild so that means no DB or TG but instead you exterminate them. You join the cult of the 9s or you pick a daedra but either way you attack the other members and defile their religious artifacts. My biggest bitch in Skyrim is smithing is so good most of the daedric artifacts are just that artifacts. They should scale up with the player so that when you get them you don't just stick them in a display case. That and a lot of them just suck anyways. Oh thanks for this mace i don't use because i don't use maces Molag.
"The idea that maybe there's the heart of a god inside this dwemer contraption." Uh...right, Michael's the one that didn't really play Morrowind, right?
I have to highly disagree. I've done the Oblivion ones recently, and most of them aren't that great in my opinion. Some of them just felt generic and lack luster. It's not Morrowind levels where it just felt like any other quest, but Skyrim did but in a lot more effort in making them click with their princes.
The reason for difference between Oblivion ans Skyrim Sheogorath is that they are two different version of Prince of Madness, since Skyrim one is Hero of Kvatch. So it make more sense that his quest in Skyrim would be to help someone to be cured of madness rather than spread it like the other one did in Oblivion.
I even don't remember not even one Daedric quest in Skyrim (last time played like a couple years ago) and I remember all Daedric quests from Oblivion (last time played like a 12years ago). Of course my vote - Oblivion.
I did enjoy how many of the Daedric quests in skyrim weren't obviously Daedric quests at the start. Yes Meridia and Azura where pretty damn obvious but Molag Bal,Namira and Sanguinies to name a few where not revealed till later with the last one not being revealed till the end of the quest
Sheogorath is my favorite Daedric Prince and watching a bunch of cats running around in hysteria, thinking the world is ending, is loads of fun. Especially when it started raining dogs.
I walked up to the abandoned house in Markarth and was like duuuuude no one just abandons a house like that come on there's gotta be a quest here, but I had NO clue that it would be for a Daedric Prince. I think this was actually the first Daedric Prince Quest I had even done...
Wait... The molag bal quest in skyrim has the priest spawn randomly?!? I've got almost 2,000 you're in that game, and he's only ever spawned in ONE location, that I could run to blindfolded by now!
Can you compare morrowind daedric quests to oblivion and or skyrim next? I think it would be cool to have a three way face off and then see which one comes on top overall
Anyone else notice that Peryite is usually the "nicest" of the princes in his quests? In Oblivion, Peryite sends you to rescue a bunch of idiots who tried to summon him. In Skyrim he sends you to take out a former champion who turned cult leader. If it wasn't for the fact that he's the god of disease, he'd be downright saintly compared to the rest.
Well he is also a prince of natural order. One part of that order is disease
@@Strellok100 He's basically a more cynical Mother Nature lol
Probably why he’s the weakest of the Princes as well. His much more caring nature results in his power not being as grand as it likely could be.
Outside of Meridia and Azura, you mean? Yeah, I agree
He's the task master, what's a way to get someone to do a task, be as nice as possible and give them a task that will help people.
But Skyrim's Ebony Blade quest has one of the biggest twists in either game. Mephala is revealed too have the form of a cupboard on Nirn.
I never thought about it like that hahahaha
The bucket and fusrodah glitch?
The Daedra in the Cupboard
Lydia’s ASMR twin...
Mephala is a cupboard, confirmed canon
*”Sometimes I dream about cheese”*-Lord Sheogorath
I actually just had a dream about raiding Molag bal's fridge for cheese! Or wait... did that actually happen? Ha! No matter!
@Samus Aran Paneer. Cotija. Mammoth.
E'erbody like cheese.
@@ShortStoryLuke WAIT
Behold the power of cheese! Jyggalag doesn't like cheese... No matter... There can still be a celebration if you don't like cheese
@@sheogoraththedaedricprince9675 FOR THE LAST TIME I TOLD.... Oh, Erm... Thank you for accepting me.
I feel like Skyrim's daedric quests were too short. Especially Molag Bal's where you basically just rescue a guy from the forsworn, kill him at his shrine, and now you have the strongest mace in the game.
Resurrection scene was cool though. Now we know Princes easily bring someone back to life.
it was also too linear, if you were a moral character you were fucked with the molag bal quest, no way of betraying bal.
I feel like *most* of Skyrim's quests and questlines were too short tbh
@@thatguy-yn8ji There definitely needed to be a way to screw over Molag Bal in that quest, like in Vaermina's quest. My only explanation is that they ran out of time and said, "Screw it, you can just refuse to finish the quest. Done."
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You can kill the priest of Boethiah instead of rescuing him. That's the only other way to resolve the quest that I am aware of.
You know what might've made Skyrim's Vaermina quest even cooler? Actually experiencing the nightmare problem yourself if you slept in Dawnstar's inn. Maybe it takes you to a small pocket of Quagmire to be tormented by high-level daedra, and when you die, you wake up.
That could be used as a training scenario. Sleep and get beat up, die and wake up, repeat. Do that enough times and you'd have 100s in all your armor skills.
@@emrek99205then the quest should be. That when you die you just die like normal. But when you win that she leaves you alone because you are too powerfull to be haunted
True ! missed opportunity that they didn't add that .
My favorite detail about the Sheo quest in Oblivion is if you've done the Shivering Isles questline the dialogue changes completely.
"Praying to yourself my lord? Well I suppose to be expected, lord of madness and all" haskil is honestly one of the best characters in all of TES
It changes depending on where you are in the quest around the middle sheogorath acts somewhat more kindly to you sorta hard to tell with sheogorath
And if you do it right before sheogorath becomes jyggalag it's more melancholic for sheogorath anyways "Good work. Good times! Here's a little reward for your efforts. One of my toys. Now, back to business. Before I forget myself."
I'm totally in the Oblivion camp for Boethia, the tournament of ten bloods was too epic and you could play a good character and participate in the quest
Yeah, the one in Skyrim is cool and all with more interesting visuals along with pushing more for the lore-literal side of Boethiah's betrayal aspect but the tournament thing was just too cool. Pity it just looks like another one of Dagon's realms but that's just reusing content I guess lol. Personally would give it to Oblivion for that one.
@@thebeyblademaniac i didn’t even play oblivion, but that quest looks so sick
In general I prefer Skyrim but bothieas quest in oblivion is better IMO and it has better rewards such as high level amour potions and of course gold brand
Exactly. It's definitely more fun then "Go bandit cave"
Yeah overall I prefer skyrim, but oblivion boethiah quest easily takes the cake. Im biased though because I love doing gladiatorial combat in games amd that stuff was awesome in oblivion. Like the ebony mail more than gold brand though.
"It's just so cool to see Orcish culture up close- a culture Malacath helped create after he was swallowed in the form of Trinimac, by Boethia, and excreted"
You threw that in just to mess with Drew and the orc fans, didn't you?
My favorite part of the "ill met by moonlight" quest was after killing the stag, if you were close enough the spirit would eat the grass and then put its mouth in your face chewing grass. Hircines a mad lad.
"A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON!"
Me: *flees*
Also the Sheogorath quest in Oblivion has alternate dialogue based on where you're at in the Shivering Isles questline.
Yah... do the sheogorath deadric quest after you beat shivering isles is nice... 😁
@@patrickaycock3655 The best time to do that quest is right at the end before you fight Jyggalag, Haskill shows up like "WTF are you doing? We're being invaded! Wait... why am I surprised by this?" *facepalm*
@@cerulee "Aren't you supposed to be at Xedilian?! Oh well never mind about that." Or my absolute favorite when you are Lord Sheogorath. Haskil going "Praying to yourself?"
*"A NEW HAND TOUC-"*
*quickloads, never opens chest again*
@@TippleCreations I ignore it in the chest. And never head back
I like the fact that in Skyrim the Daedric Princes didnt need to be confined to their shrines. It kind of sets them apart from the Aedra even more, as the Daedra are able to plant their influence themselves if they don’t have any in a specific area.
I like to think that is due to the events of oblivion weakening the barriers between the planes of existence
If they hadn’t scrapped some of the cut content of the Daedric quests (like the supposed “Giant Room” in Mind of Madness), then things would’ve been better
Or Mephala's quest in Skyrim. That thing was gonna be a mind warper.
@@heavymetalmusichead4969 There's a mod that restores the second cut Boethiah Quest. The one where she commands you to assassinate Jarl Elisif. I usually wait till the Civil War is finished before going through with it.
@@10tailedbijuu they better be. they keep failing with 76 years after its beta launch. Microsoft does not want them to lose market value.
@@MLPDethDealr32 What’s the name of the mod, and is it available on consoles?
Do you get the high ground very often? Oh what am i saying... of course you don’t
This is where the fun begins *slaugthers the children at honorhall orphanage*
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Have you heard of the high ground?
So I wrote down my thoughts before watching. But going to post this after watching.
Azura - Honestly couldn't remember her quest in Oblivion. the black star in Skyrim is a much better quest than killing yet another vampire in Oblivion. Sk1
Boethiah - Oblivion without question. My favorite Daedric quest in the game & full of amazing loot. I also love Skyrim's but Oblivion wins here. Ob1
Clavicus Vile - Ovlivion. Best weapon in the game & a good fight. Barbas annoys me in Skyrim since I often go their early to do the Hircine quest. Ob2
Hermaeus Mora - Both quests are a pain but Skyrim edges out purely because of Septimus Signus & Mora's voice acting. Sk2
Hircine - Ah my favorite prince & the one most of my characters worship. ESO included. Skyrim. Much better than just killing a unicorn. Sk3
Malacath - Skyrim. Much more memorable & enjoyable than "THESE ARE MY OGRES"! Followed by a normal dungeon. Sk4
Mephala - Hard one. Both are great. But I think Skyrim's wins by just a hair due to how the blade works in Skyrim. Making it a perfect weapon for an evil Dragonborn. Sk5
Meridia - "A NEW HAND TUTCHES THE BEACON"! Oblivion. I've grown very tired of her in Skyrim. Ob3
Molag Bal - Oblivion by a mile. Breaking an honorable man is far more fitting than saving a cultist from one of the most common enemies in Skyrim. Ob4
Namira - Oblivion's always made me laugh. But Skyrim's is truly evil feeling & I love doing Wood Elf cambial runs. Sk6
Peryite - By the divines Skyrim. Oblivion's quest is one of my most hated in the game. So long & so boring. Sk7
Sanguine - Oblivion. Skyrim's one is funny first time but after that is just a chore. Ob5
Sheogorath - Oblivion. Skyrim's quest is just a big reference bundle to Oblivion & is quite repetitive after the first time. Oblivion's is very entertaining. Ob6
Vaermina - Kind of dislike both. But I'm going to give it to Oblivion purly because of that one area with a bunch of hanging corpses & void. Gave me nightmares for a week. Very memorable. Ob7
Which leaves us with Oblivion 7 & Skyrim 7......hu....well....
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@@sireregor6633 😳
Come on lets admit it that both were equal in this.
even though the new hand touches the beacon is annoying I felt that the dungeon itself was better than the one in oblivion just cause you get a lot of gold from the corpse and the effect of dawnbreaker is really cool in my opinion. I mean at least her speech doesnt force you into a diaolgue box and force you to listen to her UNLIKE HERMA MORA.
@@zebfirehd9102 Haha thats a good point.
I like Skyrim, but Oblivion story quests are much better. Sheogorath quest from Oblivion is unbeatable, and Molag Bal quest is unlike anything you can find in Skyrim.
The base game Sheogorath quest or shivering isles?
@@peanutbutter6720 I would say both.
Peanut Butter shivering isles was the best. Wish Bethesda would make content like that again
@@shaunenwright7872 Not that it's anyway similar in concept but far harbor at least had a lot of quality
Well using Shivering Isles content as Sheo’s quest is like using TLD as Mora’s for Skyrim- that would imbalance things quite a bit.
1:27 Azura - Skyrim
2:56 Boethiah - Skyrim
4:32 Clavicus Vile - Oblivion
6:19 Hermaeus Mora - Skyrim
8:01 Hircine - Skyrim
9:27 Malacath - Skyrim
11:01 Mephala - Oblivion
12:31 Meridia - Skyrim
13:50 Molag Bal - Oblivion
16:10 Namira - Skyrim
18:01 Peryite - Skyrim
19:20 Sanguine - Skyrim
21:15 Sheogorath - Oblivion
23:15 Vaermina - Skyrim
Winner: Skyrim 10
Oblivion: 4
Excluded: Mehrunes Dagon, Nocturnal ( no "shrine" quest in Oblivion/ Skyrim respectively)
I feel like people who say Skyrim for most of these know little about the lore😂
This channel is literally a Skyrim simp channel so ofc Skyrim won lol
Umbra is by far the greatest daedric artifact, not just because it’s a great sword but it’s also one of the main plot points in the only 2 elder scrolls novels ever made.
Wait. Your here too? Didn't realize you were also a Elder Scrolls fan. Just thought Star Wars
The thing I like about Molag Bol's quest in Skyrim; he doesn't just give you his mace. He gives you a whole damn house too!
That was and still is forever my first house of every game. 😅 Too bad I can't put my adopted kids in there.
really makes up for the meh attempt to take over the world in the way too squeakie clean ESO
@@LadyCoyKoi why did the thought of thinking about putting your kids in a house haunted by the prince of rape even crossed your mind!?
@@darthbigred22 this opinion never made sense to me. The main villain of ESO is the fucking king of RAPE
@@KingdomHeart556 that's the point, while i haven't played it myself... from the clips i've seen, the game is too light-hearted to be a proper game about fighting molag bal.
Puny mortals debating oblivion vs skyrim, clearly the answer the game with the most cheese.
People just don't understand the pleasure one can get when playing golf with a horsespine while lollygagging very slowly from hole to hole. And afterwards cheese and a round of transforming mortals into cows.
Wise words from Sheogorath
Skyrim - 2500
Oblivion- 68
You guys should Remaster the Champion of Molag Bal with all this talk of Daedra, that was my favorite build from way back when
I'm playing one rn. I'd love to see it.
What I actually liked about Skyrim Daedric Princes is that not all of the them were present by human-like creature statues (like Molag Bal, Namira and Vaermina) or even had an graven image at all (like Mephala or Hermaeus Mora if we're speaking about their quests). And even statues had a variety of image and size. It was a nice design touch and gave them a sense of diversity.
By Azura, by Azura, by Azura!
By the eight divine
@@GlennSkywalker2305 nine* divines
@@obijuanquenobi1911 oh hello master (btw my pfp is the head of anakin in ep 2)
@@odyn6882 no there are 8 talos isn’t a god oh right he is but it was the thalmor fault
The Adoring fan has respawn once again.
Both had pretty decent daedric quests, my favorite though would probably be molag bal’s quest in oblivion just because it was so unique albeit terrible if you think about the connotations of the quest. Overall most daedric quests are interesting and are the highlight of the elder scrolls series
something about skyrim's world always makes me feel so immersed where ever i go. im very happy i discovered skyrim years ago and im happy i discovered your channel :)
"The rim of all holes" beautiful...
Sounds luke an interesting job.
I re-wound to check I heard that one correctly.
I liked praying at your "own shrine" via becoming sheogorath in oblivion, I had a good laugh at that, and I believe he comments on our Madness as we are praying at our own shrine even when we are already the god depicted
A " night to remember " had to be the best daedric quest. You trash the temple of dibella , sell a goat to a giant , marry a hagraven and then end it with a party with a daedra. 😂😂😂😂
I feel like once you get over the meme value, there's no real substance behind the quest though
But you don't do that. They just tell you you did it. They tell you instead of showing you. That's so lazy.
@@Filip_Agrippa but you do????
If actually embraced the fun of the quest you would’ve realized that there’s more to it than you’d like to believe.
If you wander around the plains near Rorikstead you’ll find a giant with Gleda, the goat you sold.
If you go to Witchmist grove, you’ll find the hagraven you almost got married to.
If you didn’t go through the whole quest using speech, then you would’ve found out why the quest is fun.
Also you’re drunk, so your character wouldn’t have remembered this stuff anyway because you blacked out.
The whole thing is straight out of a Hangover film.
@@Filip_Agrippa That's part of the fun. It's a classic "what the hell did I do last night" story that you'd never expect to see in an Elder Scrolls game. It's basically one of the Hangover movies but with demons and witches
I'd never been to Markarth when I did it so I had it and the forsworn conspiracy tied together. Basically one drink led to going to prison for me. It was quite the detour as I think I was on the main quest at the time.
When comparing Merida's quests, those unique shades win it for Skyrim on their own
What about Dawnbreaker?
@@goldedrag111 True, but this is a ranking of the quests, not the artifacts.
In my opinion, Meridia's Skyrim quest was better.
I mean, it's ultimately a choice between a dungeon crawl, and a dungeon crawl with a set piece.
@@ElectromagNick My first Elder Scrolls game was Skyrim.
I'd actually give Oblivion Namria and Sanguine over Skyrim's versions. The twisting nightmare world of Namira's realm corrupting the tower is truly unique and requires more innovation. And as for Sanguine, I mean aside from the spectacle of it - Countess Alessia Caro being rendered naked in-front of party guests is a reward unto itself - especially if you have sneaked around the castle before and know what she's like behind closed doors.
I also have given Oblivion Nocturnal if we were allowed to count her -The Thieves Guild of Skyrim is just awful... who sells their soul to a Daedra to be "allowed" to get their stuff back for them? Also why would a guild of thieves all give their money to someone else to hold onto and not bother to check on it for TWENTY FIVE YEARS?! AND WHY WOULD SAY PERSON HANG AROUND?! So yeah, aside from the fact Noctural in Oblivion actually has you act like a thief instead of a dungeon raider, not getting the pretzel logic of that stupid quest line is it's own reward.
Mese Ktet nah sanguine wins Skyrim still, nocturnal can go to oblivion. Also namiras is way cooler in Skyrim, but I do like the forgotten in oblivion.
@@cromabu5090 No. All were better in Oblivion
@@cromabu5090 Oh, I am sorry, not Namira, that is my bad, I meant Vaermina. Nightmare daedra, not Grossness daedra, sorry, my bad. That twisting nightmare tower beats the heck out of fight the frozen bandits and crazy cult members.
Hope I mean that’s your opinion but it’s a bit arrogant. I admit oblivion won what they did in this video, but Skyrim’s are without doubt better. However oblivion definitely wins in the guild department.
Mese Ktet ohhh right, yeah it was kinda cool and it certainly fit her, but the dream stride was pretty epic though.
Plus it gave you a choice which unfortunately most daedric quests don’t give
I prefer skyrim to oblivion generally, but even I will admit oblivion had better daedra quests
That's kinda the opposite opinion to what Fudgemuppet comes to, but that's not an issue.
@@wanderingshade8383 mhm! I was simply stating my own opinion
(Edit) oh wait this is 2020 I forgot opinions were not allowed, my bad
@@skullgirl8363
He goes to the block...
@@skullgirl8363 how dare you have your own opinion you racist Stormcloak
oblivion is very hard to return too without mods imo, and even mods don't fix the issues i personally have with voice acting. so i agree
Mephala’s quest in Skyrim is ridiculously underwhelming. Boethia is meh in both. Vaermina in Oblivion wins for me.
They scrapped most of the Mephala quest in Skyrim, originally Balgruuf's kid is supposed to kill him, making the other guy Jarl, but well..
@@Replica2901 Sounds terrible having to kill one of the few good Imperial-aligned Jarls
@@Replica2901 I agree on Vaermina tower was really cool
I found Boethiah quite surprising after originally playing Skyrim like 20 times then remembering I owned Oblivion from 10 years ago.
In Oblivion she’s presents herself as a male Daedric prince but in Skyrim he presents himself as a female Daedric prince.
Clavicus Vile is also interesting as he’s more of a mischievous kid in oblivion and a deceitful adult in Skyrim.
Really helps to show that he’s he daedra can appear in whatever form they feel like or whatever their devoted have chosen and created a shrine in likeness to.
I remember the relief I felt after finally ending the main quest and leaving the fiery landscapes behind. Then when I decide to do a Daedric quest, it's Peryite. Then it's 'I'm back AGAIN? Oh well...'
Dagon actually did have a daedric prince quest in oblivion, it was just DLC. It was this huge endurance run dungeon. It had a fast respawn timer so if you left partway through itd respawn and it was really long with some tough fights along the way and a pretty mean final boss fight at the end, eventually being rewarded by choosing to eat the still beating heart of dagons current champion to claim the razor or defy dagon and just steal the razor.
To be fair, he also excluded all dlc related stuff if daedric prince was related, even if razor dlc was a smaller one than shivering isles or Dragonborn with all the Mora stuff
For The Cursed Tribe quest, I remember on one playthrough Yamarz actually ended up defeating the giant, much to my surprise. I don’t think Bethesda anticipated this happening so he just talked to me as if I killed the giant and I still had to kill him. I think it would’ve been cool if there was an alternate route where Yamarz actually wins and is recognized by Malacath, and so you don’t get Volendrung but instead get a gold reward from him and get named as Blood-kin.
I can’t wait to see the quests in Skyrim 6
R/WHOOSH
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You must be trolling
@@ethanstrs well he was joking
Yeah I’m trolling please don’t take this seriously
I find it hilarious that I did sanguines quest in Skyrim after getting married to ysolda and it’s much more hilarious when your wife tells you that you married a hagraven
Vermina’s Oblivion quest has to be the most scary. But, Uncle Sheo’s quest is quite hilarious.
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Actually, after you get the star at the fort, that's when you get the choice to have the black star or Azura's star, by taking it to Nelacar he sends you inside the star to kill the mage and it becomes the black star and can't turn it back, or by taking it to Azura where she sends you inside instead and it turns into Azura's star and you get the follower
Let's vote: Give a like for Oblivion, comment Fus Ro Dah for Skyrim.
Fus Ro Dah
@@jasonsilvernail1450 ooof
*_Uses Battle Cry instead_*
I like Oblivion more but I also like Skyrim
That's hardly a fair vote:
- Simply exist for Oblivion
- Successfuly petition your government for an ammendment to the Constitution for Skyrim
Awesome face off. I've been playing the games same Daggerfall. I can say that every generation cuts out something that I like from the previous ones (insane number of factions and wall climbing, plus day night cycle npc schedule cut from Daggerfall to Morrowind, all but basic factions plus open cities (until DLC added knights) cut from Morrowind to Oblivion (but they added day/night npc schedules back in!), and mages, along with the feeling of true guild progression cut from Oblivion to Skyrim) but I still enjoy each new generation for what it improves on. Tighter questing, more “alive” npc's, more fluid leveling systems and combat mechanics. This video was a great reminder that nostalgia can make things way better than reality.
Nostalgia has jack shit to do with this,the older games ARE BETTER, and the fact that everyone now days say that the only right way to play skyrim is with mods, and normaly most of the recommended mods are just adding back mechanics from the older games that skyrim stripped down to become more "casual friendly" also speaks volumes that skyrim popularity from back then was because it was the new shinyiest toy of the moment, just like today its because this game has been relaunched for every single eletronic imaginable and because the mod authors managed to keep the game alive by essentisly morphing it into a entirely mew game.
Morrowind will always be my favorite Elder Scrolls game. Absolutely massive and open. Give it a try. The story doesn't disappoint.
Yes!!! Long live House Redoran!!!
@@xxsaruman82xx87 I probably played through that game once for each race.
It's a great game until you glitch through one of the bridges in vivec city :D
@@chungbingus1411 that's a feature. Lol
You n’wah
Morrowind had the best Daedric quests, they were so obscure and actually forced you to really figure out how to solve all the puzzles (unless you used an online guide or something similar)
i think you missed my favourite part of malacath's quest in oblivion here because after you beat the quest you can go back to the farm and see the ogres rose up against the farm owner and enslaved him which is funny although i didn't know ogres could demonstrate such agency and would have expected them to just murder the farm owner
I agree that the daedric quests in themselves might way in the favor of Skyrim however I very much preferred the daedric shrines in oblivion. I enjoyed the concept of seeking them out to pledge allegiance to the daedric princes rather than starting a quest and halfway realising that my character was on their way to now dabble with the daedra.
Interacting with other followers of the daedric princes without having to murder them was also something that I think gave the daedra a more interesting position in the world. In Skyrim most deadric gods do not have any followers or have their followers only to betray them.
I always found it kind of boring tho. I quite liked stumbling upon a daedric quest without realising it cus it felt like how the prince's would act with people in the elder scrolls world. That's just me tho
Vote: Oblivion
You n’wah
Oblivion is the best elder scrolls game, because there are still rpg elements compared to Skyrim where it does not matter which race or gender you choose. Many roleplaying elder scrolls fans dont like the fact that in Skyrim you can become the best warrior in the companions and archmage at the college of winterhold. The only downside is if you become bored of the same class and skills, you cant make the switch with perks to change it like in Skyrim.
@@thomasrosendahl2783 Well, you can become the best in the fighters guild and mages guild but difference is that their progression is better than Skyrim’s and it’s much harder depending on the classes and stuff you choose. Also, I like how you didn’t compare Oblivion to Morrowind
@@thomasrosendahl2783 the game is better because it limits your options? so you like less gameplay i see.
@@pulsefel9210 limiting things in a way that makes the world adhere to its own rules is necessary for a good environment.
I like both games...oblivion had a better quests when it comes to the guilds but i knew skyrim was going to win when it came to deadric quests
Both have some very good ones. And very meh ones...
I mean oblivion had a whole questline revolving around sheogorath, its like comparing skyrim's harmaeus mora to oblivion's, or comparing morrowinds azura to Oblivion's, Try comparing oblivion's namira to skyrim's namira. Skyrim wins here by a mile.
I disagree
That's...what he did? He specifically said he was excluding the Shivering Isles and Dragonborn DLCs, as well not comparing Dagon's Skyrim quest against Oblivion's Main Quest and not comparing Skyrim's Thieves Guild against Nocturnal's quest in Oblivion
@@Galimeer5 I wrote that comment b4 watching the video 😂
But still I think sheogorath in oblivion had a more fleshed personality because he was such an integral part to the story imo, unless of course Bethesda never planned a shivering Isles dlc when they made oblivion
Shivering isles easily beats Dragonborn dlc
Absolutely loving this recent content! Keep up the great work team! As for Skyrim vs. Oblivion, I’d love to see a comparison of each game’s main quest, going stage by stage and putting each segment of each game against each other.
Oblivion vs Skyrim: The writing
Jk, but with this type of videos it would be awesome to see several videos comparing the guilds from Oblivion & Skyrim. Alot of good content there
That’s so weird I got Skyrim a year ago and it quickly became my favorite game of all time so I just got oblivion yesterday and now u upload this, PRAISE TALOS
I think both games have their pros and cons. The quests themselves are more creative in Oblivion, but the way you discover the quests are more interesting in Skyrim since they all seem to be out of natural consequence as opposed to visiting a shrine.
*GIMME ORC LORE* #GREENFREEDOM
the minorities are ignored in the empire
Sorry but the hist knows little of your kind and cares even less.
@@patrickaycock3655 you are but a puppet to the hist, scaley one
@@MrMoose-bl7jv 🤣 nice one! But im still cool with that.
But i do agree its past time for more good orc lore.
Lol the poop people want there Lore talked about😂😂😂
I've played Skyrim, Morrowind, and a good chunk of Oblivion this year, and honestly, Skyrim's is the best in my opinion. I know that people are quick to complain about Skyrim's flaws, but it does great things like how it handles Daedric quests, trying to make them fit with their princess as much as possible, to the point of trying to be selective of who would have a shrine and who wouldn't, and where. I mean, lets be honest, Namira would loath to have a shrine on the surface for all to see, so it makes sense for Skyrim to have it hidden in a crypt.
makes sense and for Nocturnal to have no shrine at all as well as herma mora in Skyrim because they are very secretive. and beside nords don't like Mora.
@@zebfirehd9102 Classic jocks hating nerds.
There was a DLC for Mehrunes Razor in Oblivion, I actually remember liking it, a secret army and a big ass cave easily took me 30-60 minutes first time through
I've always loved the voices of Mehrunez Dagon and Molag-Bal. Ever since 2012, it has sent shivers me every time I hear them. It's just so perfect for a daedric prince
Does anyone think the Rueful Axe actually cures lycanthropy. Due to Skyrim exploring how lycanthropy changes your afterlife
Yes. If it kills you youre cured
I dispise the molag bal quest in skyrim. I just dont like how they pull you into it, and you have no option for denying bal or going against him in any way. The other Daedric quests where they do that in skyrim, you either have options or it doesn't require you to be tremendously wicked.
And on top of that you are asked by a vigilant of stendarr, implying it may be another good quest. I know some people may disagree, but part of me honestly thinks the devs just assumed the player wants to be evil.
The deadra in skyrim just felt like more of a force in the world; like they were lurking around every corner, influencing the world. Kind of reminds me of the stories of the princes you find in books. Maybe their influence has grown since the oblivion crisis? Maybe Mancar was more successful than we think..
I can't believe it, considering how old Oblivion is, and how many millions of hours I put into it, but I had to stop this for spoilers. I haven't done all the Oblivion deadric quests. That's the biggest reason I have to boot it up again.
Nah mate I've done about 1,500 hours into oblivion and Ive done everything multiple times
@@RaidoactiveBoy millions is probably an exaggeration. But I've done many things multiple times. A number of massive playthroughs. Just not all the daedric quests.
I preferred all of Oblivions. You had to find the shrines and make the choice to start the quests. In Skyrim the majority of them were forced upon you. Any quest that starts up like that by default is not a better quest. I just love going to Markarth and having to go the long way to get to the keep just to avoid being forcegreet by the priest. That was sarcasm, I despise that.
Yup. Oblivion had a vastly superior design philosophy regarding daedra quests.
Before I even watched: i love Oblivion but of course skyrim's daedra quests are better , Oblivion's daedric quests are at the lvl of Skyrim's guild quests: go to dungeon finish dungeon come back, ocasionaly get an instresting quest. but skyrim's daedra quests are whole different thing each one is unique (almost) and intresting just like Oblivion's regulat quests! lol
I used to be bothered that you didn't get Goldbrand in Skyrim and wondered why. Then i realized its because the fucking Emperor has it
Also i feel you should have addressed the dlc add-on to the sheogorath dadric quest where in haskill actually addresses the madness of the player (now sheogorath) praying to himself
6:26 hermaeus mora is infact a crab tentacle thing that evolved into eye tentacles. since daggerfall he was crab tentacle thing
there is also a statue of that form somewhere in solstheim iirc.
In the Crused Tribe Quest, I saved before sending him in and continuously reloaded the save trying to figure out why he kept dying then I gave up killed the giant then Yamarz attacked me. One hit KO and I’m back on my way to the Tribe.
When it came to the Skyrims cannibal quest, at the dinner table I turned into a werewolf and killed them all and saved the priest.
Skyrim's Namira quest was definitely better. It was the only thing I've ever done in a video game where I felt uneasy after doing it.
I do believe Skyrim had the best voice actors or actresses than Oblivion hands down. Meridia you cannot get it out of your head. I wish Skyrim did more with Molag Bal because he was my favorite voice actor.
The Daedric quests are really the only major area where Skyrim clearly outstrips Oblivion imo. You touched on this at the end, but the fact that they felt like organic quests seeded into the world - sometimes engulfing you before you even knew there was a major quest involved - made a huge difference. Oblivion's (and I say this as another person for whom Oblivion is my first and greatest TES love) were very formulaic in how they came to you - you went to a place, provided an offering, did a thing, and came back to the place, it was like an in-universe giant "QUEST HERE" floating exclamation point.
I liked having to find random stuff giving an offer had a really good lore feeling
I really feel like the makers of Skyrim went really hard into quality Daedric Quests, character interactions, and a living world to make up for Oblivion's copy paste environments and goofy character interactions.
However, Oblivion definitely had better guilds. Better stories, ranks, characters, and rewards than anything in Skyrim.
Here's to hoping elder scrolls 6 finds a way to balance both approaches.
I honestly would put Sanguine as the best Daedric quest in Skyrim, where in Oblvion I would put it at #2 just after Sheogorath.
I just love that the Hero of Kvatch is the one to give you the quest in Skyrim.
This makes me want to see a ranking of the daedric princes by hotness. Not just visually though. They also need a good personality, like Sanguine, the life of the party, or Malacath, who lifts you up when you fall down (albeit a but aggressively).
I hope we get longer Daedric quests in the next game. I'd love it if they treated following the Daedric Princes like joining a faction. I wouldn't even mind it if following one Prince makes another reject or abandon you. I think that adds to replayability, especially if they make it possible to steal the Deadric item if you don't want to join them.
Imagine if TES6 had entire questlines for Daedric artifacts instead of just single quests.
Or even a single questline that pulls every daedric prince into the story and you have to choose one of them to side with, getting their artifact by the end.
I don't want that. One thing I appreciate about Skyrim was it had a really long playthrough. It was unrealistic in world that say you can be DB and TG while also be a Companion BUT it didn't make you make a new character for that either. There is part of me that really enjoys how confusing the Daedra and Aedra must have it when the Hero of Kvatch or Dragonborn die since almost everyone has a claim to him.
But I'd rather have that than need to make a new character and slog through everything again just to get Azura's Star. Plus almost all the Daedra are evil so who reallly wants to quest that long for any of them?
Now that said I wouldn't mind a flip side to every faction. Say I go Fighter's guild so that means no DB or TG but instead you exterminate them. You join the cult of the 9s or you pick a daedra but either way you attack the other members and defile their religious artifacts.
My biggest bitch in Skyrim is smithing is so good most of the daedric artifacts are just that artifacts. They should scale up with the player so that when you get them you don't just stick them in a display case. That and a lot of them just suck anyways. Oh thanks for this mace i don't use because i don't use maces Molag.
4:20 what's the sword on Boethiah's Champion.
11:33 also what's the armor set on the table with Ebony Blade.
What sort of mods were used in the Skyrim footage? The people look very much more animated and unique.
Your lore videos are wonderful, FudgeMuppet, but this one is my favorite. Well done, and very well thought out.
"The idea that maybe there's the heart of a god inside this dwemer contraption."
Uh...right, Michael's the one that didn't really play Morrowind, right?
Oblivion: Nearly all the Daedric quests were phenomenal.
Skyrim: Half of them are eh... and the rest are good.
I think it's clear which one wins.
I have to highly disagree. I've done the Oblivion ones recently, and most of them aren't that great in my opinion. Some of them just felt generic and lack luster. It's not Morrowind levels where it just felt like any other quest, but Skyrim did but in a lot more effort in making them click with their princes.
I agree with the final score, but I'd switch the verdicts for Sheogorath and Vaermina.
The reason for difference between Oblivion ans Skyrim Sheogorath is that they are two different version of Prince of Madness, since Skyrim one is Hero of Kvatch. So it make more sense that his quest in Skyrim would be to help someone to be cured of madness rather than spread it like the other one did in Oblivion.
I actually love Skyrims quest for Sheagorath it reminds me a lot of Alice in Wonderland he's also my favorite Daedra to be honest
Honestly my favorite channel, keep it up dudes
The fact there are at least 3 different ways to end Namira's quest in Skyrim is just awesome.
"Ignoring the pain of accidentally finding Meridia's beacon..." HAHAHAHA I literally had to pull out the plug of my speakers when it happened.
I even don't remember not even one Daedric quest in Skyrim (last time played like a couple years ago) and I remember all Daedric quests from Oblivion (last time played like a 12years ago). Of course my vote - Oblivion.
Interesting how Oblivion azura's quest is exactly tied into the beginning of Skyrim clavicle ville's quest
Bro I get so hyped for every video
I did enjoy how many of the Daedric quests in skyrim weren't obviously Daedric quests at the start. Yes Meridia and Azura where pretty damn obvious but Molag Bal,Namira and Sanguinies to name a few where not revealed till later with the last one not being revealed till the end of the quest
Sheogorath is my favorite Daedric Prince and watching a bunch of cats running around in hysteria, thinking the world is ending, is loads of fun. Especially when it started raining dogs.
Let’s be honest. They’re mostly fantastic in both games.
I walked up to the abandoned house in Markarth and was like duuuuude no one just abandons a house like that come on there's gotta be a quest here, but I had NO clue that it would be for a Daedric Prince.
I think this was actually the first Daedric Prince Quest I had even done...
I love these vids! Pitting nostalgia and familiarity! Thank y'all for all that y'all do! It's much more to us than just a fun video!
Wait... The molag bal quest in skyrim has the priest spawn randomly?!? I've got almost 2,000 you're in that game, and he's only ever spawned in ONE location, that I could run to blindfolded by now!
dude same
Can you compare morrowind daedric quests to oblivion and or skyrim next? I think it would be cool to have a three way face off and then see which one comes on top overall