"Like watching a beautiful sunset, at noon." refers to the fact that Henson died fairly young, which they set up in the line before: "Truth is I miss ya, you were gone too soon."
I thought it was a subtle diss, like Stan was saying he was painful to watch because watching the sun at noon is painful. Also maybe it took Jim a long time to get to the good parts... But your explanation makes more sense.
lol, agreed. M-I-C, see you really soon, K-E-Y, why? Because we love you. M-O-U-S-E! As soon as I heard M-I-C, I knew it was a Mickey Mouse Club reference and I immediately guessed Walt Disney.
Same here! And they did SUCH a good job of incorporating it RIGHT, in a legit, witty, wordplay way, without coming anywhere close to violating a copyright or trademark.
The thing about Jim henson is not only did he die young he died from a preventable disease. Strep throat that got into his lungs. The doctor said had he come in hours earlier we couldve saved him.
Everyone misses the "Honestly there's alot of things you can't control at my age" line Stan Lee had barely any say in Marvel content, it was really sad.
^ Point. Everybody assumes it's a bladder/bowel joke, but there's another, sadder level behind it. In addition to what you just pointed out, he also had to battle for control over his own estate, and his social media accounts, and according to some, even his own life towards the end.
@@druid_zephyrus I've heard the theme. Watched the black and white version on tv when I was a child even haha. Like the Zorro ones they did. I mean also whst the other guy said, didnt catch M I C "I rock the MIC properly" K E Y "turning profit I have the KEY. Play on words
"Watching a sunset at noon" meant Jim Henson died at too young an age, sort of like a day would end too early if the sunset came at noon. At the time this video was made, ERB videos were produced by Maker Studios. My understanding (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong) is that Maker gave them access to professional-grade filming and editing equipment in exchange for a portion of their profits. Maker Studios is, in turn, owned by Disney (like everything else). Since then, starting with season six (the current season), ERB has gone fully independent. So Disney effectively owned them at the time the Stan Lee vs. Jim Henson video was made, but not anymore. The ending of this video is typical of season finales, which show the multiple screens rather than "Who won? Who's next?". I agree that Walt Disney clearly won this battle.
“Walt Disnes owns Epic Rap Battles? Really?” At the time, pretty much. Disney had recently purchased Maker Studios which produced ERB at the time. I believe Maker Studios no longer produces ERB.
I don't believe they do the "Who won? Who's next?" thing for season finales. Henson/Lee was the finale for season 4. The mini-screens with links to other videos from the season is usually how the finales end. Disney Digital, formerly Maker Studios, funded and produced ERB through the first 5 seasons.
Season 1 finale (Peter vs. Lloyd) didn't ask th-cam.com/video/OLlkbxy82S8/w-d-xo.html Season 2 finale (Stalin vs. Rasputin) didn't ask th-cam.com/video/ZT2z0nrsQ8o/w-d-xo.html Season 3 finale (TMNT vs. Artists) didn't ask th-cam.com/video/6HZ5V9rT96M/w-d-xo.html Season 4 finale (Henson vs Lee) didn't ask Season 5 finale (Peter vs. Lloyd II) didn't ask th-cam.com/video/0mbGUld2w-s/w-d-xo.html
This was the final battle for that season, they don't made the "who won" thing when is a final season and just put all the battles that they made in the season
Walt Disney states that he is owning this battle, as in he is succeeding in it. However, he builds on this statement with clever wordplay, as he points out that he owns the whole Epic Rap Battles of History series, as the series itself is produced by Maker Studios Inc., a subsidiary of The Walt Disney Company purchased for $500 million in 2014. So technically, Walt broke the fourth wall. Taken from Genius' Page genius.com/Epic-rap-battles-of-history-jim-henson-vs-stan-lee-lyrics If you ever are confused by a line or don't know the meaning, Genius.com usually has every ERB. You can go there and click most of the lines to find what it means.
Yeah, after this there's just season 5 (and any of the currently running season 6 you haven't watched yet). You should check out the Princess Rap Battles as well. There's like 10 of them I think.
I always feel so DAMN old when reactors don't INSTANTLY recognize Disney from the first six letters... M I C... K E Y... in that tune, it's classic Disney.
the fact Jim Henson carries that rhyme from "sense your tension" all the way to near the end of his round with "mention" makes it one of my favorites of ERB
Yea. They didn't say "Who won?" purposely because this was one of their last videos with Maker Studios, which is now owned by Disney. They worked with Maker Studios when it was bought and they really didn't like it at all. This whole rap battle was a subtle diss as Disney for what they have done.
People who watched the original "Mickey Mouse Club" on Disney Channel would immediately catch the tune of the M-I-C-K-E-Y part and know it is Walt Disney
If you were a little older rich you would know that the whole M-I-C...K-E-Y. Was how the Mickey Mouse club started so we older folks knew that instantly
Technically what Jim Henson (and NicePeter) did was puppeteering, not ventriloquism. The only significant difference is with puppets you don't try to hide your mouth moving. Jim Henson wanted to make 100% sure children knew his puppets weren't talking on their own so he would make sure they saw his mouth moving.
At some point in 2014 Disney bought Maker Studio's which was a Kassim G partnership owned and operated thing before that. That was end of season 3 beginning of season 4 time. So from that point Disney essentially owned ERB. After season 5 though ERB was put on the back burner while Lloyd and Peter pursued other interests. They bought ERB back from Disney and now own it themselves which is why there is so much riding on a successful return.
Jim Henson just played the puppets, you also see his mouth moving in the battle. He never was a ventriloquist. The "beautyful sunset at noon" thing is referencing the muppet show always on TV at noon. ERB was made in a studio owned by Disney, but now they are independent through patreon.
The labor condition remark is a reference to how artists that work for Disney have come out and said that the conditions in their studios are atrociously bad, often to the point where artists are figuratively worked to the bone to meet deadlines and that it's nowhere near as glamorous as one might believe before going in.
"Who won? Who's next?" Isn't there for two reasons. 1º End of season. 2º.....Because Disney won. Of course he did. He owned Maker Studios (the ones who make ERB) right up until the end of Season 5. Something to note, by the way. If you look closely at all the people painting/drawing at the end, you can clearly see a lot of brands in there. ABC, ESPN, etc etc. It's actually frightening how much Disney actually owns, directly or indirectly.
There was a controversy about Stan Lee being the victim of elder abuse, then his daughter said that Marvel took advantage of Stan and that he didn’t have control of his mind. Money grubbing biotch, the abuse was after she got more involved and started hiring ppl because she wanted his talent not him.
At the time ERB was under the Maker studios, which is then owned by Disney. So technically they were in fact owned by Disney, up until the battle between Guy Fawkes vs Che Cavrea, is when ERB left Maker's studios and became independent, with some help from Patreon's donations. Also I'm sure you probably know this by now, but at the end of each season, they don't do the "who won" thing.
I don't know how much you know about a lot of video games but you should watch VI (Six) Seconds: Best Video Game Rap of All Time, Her, I'll Body You, I'm Sorry, and The Gawd. And Shofu's Pokemon Cypher 2013, Pokemon Cypher 2016, and Indigo Cypher. Great video dude!
There were 5 seasons, with the 5th season being when Disney bought Maker studios, their parent, and thus, 'owned' ERB. After a year or so break, Lloyd and Peter were able to buy back ERB from Disney and start on season 6, which is where we are now. And the other show is EpicLloyds' 'Dis Raps for hire'
Getting old doesn't worry anyone. Until it starts happening. Then you wake up to pee for the third time in a night, every once in a while with stiff legs, and once or twice barely make the toilet in time, and then suddenly you realize it's just starting. You realize that you're still kind-of youngish and it's already going downhill and you can't help but wonder how far down the hill you go...
With Jack Kirby and Stan Lee they used what they called the Marvel Method to make comics where Stan would give a broad script maybe just a page or so and let Jack actually come up with how the story would happen panel to panel. Then Stan would get the artwork and put in the word bubbles, writing the story to match up with Jack’s art. So who really wrote the story was the big controversy.
More accurately, Stan would give Jack a basic plot, Jack would run with it, fleshing out the story and the action, and Stan would write in the dialog after.
He's saying Henson was gone too soon like noon is too soon for the sunset. And also the production company backing them at the time of this video was owned by Disney.
Beautiful senset at noon - sunset is what you expect at the end of the day, not at noon. With Jim, the sunset of his life came too early at 54, when he should've been in the middle of his life.
"(M.I.C) I rock the Mic properly! (K.E.Y) Turning profits I've got the key!" i got this line first time because i was a hardcore disney fan as a kid we went to disney world five or six times and i will probably always remember the song they play (Who's the leader of the club That's made for you and me! M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E!)
Disney is incredibly close to being a Monopoly of entertainment and the more you look into their business and polices and the way the treat (staff, artists, writers) no one realizes how sketchy and corrupt they are
ventriloquist is the people that use a puppet without moving their lips. this is more just puppetry, since the puppeteer is always hidden in henson's work.
Yeah... I have a traumatic story of an elder gentleman who walked into the Dunkin Donuts I was working at at the time and was clearly in distraught... and just dropped his pants and let loose from the front door to the bathroom... you can imagine that was an interesting day 😅
The way Disney spells "Mickey" is like the send off from the Mouseketeers. M-I-C See you later! K-E-Y Why? Because we like you! M-O-U-S-E Mickey Mouse! Mickey Mouse!
13:08 anyone else notice the paintings are everything Disney owms from Iron man a&e abc and much more lol loved that detail. Plus plz like so rich xan read and notice the same thing. Thanks.
Yeah, Jack was the art/layout man par excellence, while Stan was an idea guy. They both were important, but Stan catered to the public, while Jack didn't want to have the limelight. "Sunset at noon" is just a metaphor for ending too soon. Suns are supposed to set in the evening, but Jim died well before his time.
Mr Hooper RIP The sweatshop thing: Disney famously derided and worked against the unions back in the day - there's even shtick about it in Dumbo (the union 'clowns').
Disney Sweat Shops? Hell, yes, even back in the 1950's, before the parks and toy lines! Hand-drawn animation, thousands upon thousands of drawings -- no computers, remember! -- required long hours of hand-cramping and not always well-paid labor! Air conditioning? What's that?
It was just a reference to Jim dying way too early. He died of some illness I forget (pneumonia? maybe?) at age 53. I was 13 at the time, and man was it heartbreaking. Disney released a really sweet tribute to him: lavendergirl88.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/funny-muppets-disney-kermit-sad.jpg
The kirby thing has more to it. The marvel method has the writer give a shitty vague story outline and the artist does literally damn near everything else. It really was Jack Kirby's comic with Stan's ideas.
Yeah, Walt Disney was not a big fan of unions. Back in the early 40s, his animation studio went on strike because they wanted to form a union of their own, but he wouldn't let them. Several animators broke off and formed their own studio, UPA.
This was intentionally and brilliantly written, Disney spends the whole time emphasizing how he is both undisputably the winner, and also indisputably evil. This was the last battle ERB produced while working with Maker Studios and technically owned by Disney. A truly epic way to go out while giving the finger to your boss in public.
Fans give kirby credit nowadays. Its kinda similar to Tesla, once the info was realized, it spread to popular knowledge. But yeah for years it was not well known also to explain it: Disney is the parent company of the company that paid for ERB, the is why there was such a long delay between the last two seasons. they are now privately owned by cast and crew. P.P.S Disney, after the fox purchase, owns more than 68% of all entertainment, world wide. the beauty of being so big you get to rewrite the monopoly and public domain laws of USA
"Like watching a beautiful sunset, at noon." refers to the fact that Henson died fairly young, which they set up in the line before: "Truth is I miss ya, you were gone too soon."
Oh my i didnt get that love you
It's also a reference that hensons shows often got the 12o'clock slot on tv.
@@craigwoodward8455 And how ahead of his time he was.
Lewis Brannigan when he didn’t get that I got mad at my phone 😂
I thought it was a subtle diss, like Stan was saying he was painful to watch because watching the sun at noon is painful. Also maybe it took Jim a long time to get to the good parts... But your explanation makes more sense.
When ERB made this battle they did in fact own ERBs production company or at least a part of it. ERB is 100% produced and owned by ERB as of now.
So please join their patreon and help keep them independent people! 👍
Maker Studios.
Not sure if Maker Studios left the deal with Disney or they left Maker Studios.
This video was their "kiss-off" to Disney.
@@sayascarlett3187 They left Maker.
Disney did own ERB for a while but after season 5 they became independent
That was partially due to Disney owning the production studios ERB worked out of for the first 5 seasons, Maker Studios
I’m happy about that
That double was so fucking mean. Disney owned ERB (by proxy) and Disney owns Marvel and The Muppets
Every time someone doesn't catch Disney coming in with the Mickey Mouse Club chant I can't help thinking: "God damn I'm old."
I feel the same
lol, agreed.
M-I-C, see you really soon, K-E-Y, why? Because we love you. M-O-U-S-E! As soon as I heard M-I-C, I knew it was a Mickey Mouse Club reference and I immediately guessed Walt Disney.
Same here! And they did SUCH a good job of incorporating it RIGHT, in a legit, witty, wordplay way, without coming anywhere close to violating a copyright or trademark.
I'm with you on that one, I feel old. I recognized it instantly and knew who was coming from the M.
Exactly the same here.
"Stan, don't be sad. We all have a time to go" That's so beautiful.
That is a very good say.
That is so sad 😭😢😭😭😭
Fuck, even worse now that Stan's gone...
The thing about Jim henson is not only did he die young he died from a preventable disease. Strep throat that got into his lungs. The doctor said had he come in hours earlier we couldve saved him.
"With only three circles, I dominate the planet!" Yikes! The truth of that is kinda terrifying.
With*
@@quickhistory8637 - Dang Swype.
In North Korea all US presidents are hated, while Mickey Mouse is being loved.
rodjacksonx it’s not a bad place to live disney movies are great
Attractions, media, and merch. There's also the mouse too.
"He did his own *THING* and now its clobbering time"
"Oh, the hulk"
ouch
I was HURT
This guy is definitely slow
Are you unfamiliar with the famous catch phrase "Hulk Clobber"
2:33
Jim was never a ventriloquist, he was just very soft spoken.
Everyone misses the "Honestly there's alot of things you can't control at my age" line
Stan Lee had barely any say in Marvel content, it was really sad.
^ Point. Everybody assumes it's a bladder/bowel joke, but there's another, sadder level behind it. In addition to what you just pointed out, he also had to battle for control over his own estate, and his social media accounts, and according to some, even his own life towards the end.
Ah shit I just got it. “M-I-C I rock the MIC properly, K-E-Y turning profits I’ve got the KEY”
I didnt catch that myself haha. Thars great
it's....it's...it is the Mickey mouse theme song guys. I pity your childhoods
Matthew Koller i know... I’m talking about how I realized the word play with Mickey and mic and key. I pity you think that
@@druid_zephyrus I've heard the theme. Watched the black and white version on tv when I was a child even haha. Like the Zorro ones they did. I mean also whst the other guy said, didnt catch M I C "I rock the MIC properly" K E Y "turning profit I have the KEY. Play on words
This was a fire bar
"Watching a sunset at noon" meant Jim Henson died at too young an age, sort of like a day would end too early if the sunset came at noon.
At the time this video was made, ERB videos were produced by Maker Studios. My understanding (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong) is that Maker gave them access to professional-grade filming and editing equipment in exchange for a portion of their profits. Maker Studios is, in turn, owned by Disney (like everything else). Since then, starting with season six (the current season), ERB has gone fully independent. So Disney effectively owned them at the time the Stan Lee vs. Jim Henson video was made, but not anymore.
The ending of this video is typical of season finales, which show the multiple screens rather than "Who won? Who's next?".
I agree that Walt Disney clearly won this battle.
“Walt Disnes owns Epic Rap Battles? Really?” At the time, pretty much. Disney had recently purchased Maker Studios which produced ERB at the time. I believe Maker Studios no longer produces ERB.
Yeah,NicePeter and EpicLloyd independently own the series now.They announced that around 2006.
Anarcha Media what? The first ERB came out in 2010, and Maker Studios produced for like the first 5 seasons so what you said makes no sense
@@theAverageJoe25 he probably ment 2016
They did for a short time but the dis was more aimed at the fact that Jim hensons and Marvel is owned by Disney.
When Disney comes out, he spells out M-I-C-K-E-Y as in the Mouse. And during the "Empire of Joy" all the easels have Disney Series logos.
@OpGamers He did indeed.
I don't believe they do the "Who won? Who's next?" thing for season finales. Henson/Lee was the finale for season 4. The mini-screens with links to other videos from the season is usually how the finales end.
Disney Digital, formerly Maker Studios, funded and produced ERB through the first 5 seasons.
No they do.
They didnt do a who won because disney literally owns both jim henson and stan lee's work.
Season 1 finale (Peter vs. Lloyd) didn't ask th-cam.com/video/OLlkbxy82S8/w-d-xo.html
Season 2 finale (Stalin vs. Rasputin) didn't ask th-cam.com/video/ZT2z0nrsQ8o/w-d-xo.html
Season 3 finale (TMNT vs. Artists) didn't ask th-cam.com/video/6HZ5V9rT96M/w-d-xo.html
Season 4 finale (Henson vs Lee) didn't ask
Season 5 finale (Peter vs. Lloyd II) didn't ask th-cam.com/video/0mbGUld2w-s/w-d-xo.html
@@TheOldLesMiz damn you play no games 🤣🤣 respect
Sunset at noon probably means that he passed while he was still quite young. therefore the sun set earlier than expected
This was the final battle for that season, they don't made the "who won" thing when is a final season and just put all the battles that they made in the season
They do, they didn't in this one because it came off as whatever way you look at it, Disney wins
Walt Disney states that he is owning this battle, as in he is succeeding in it.
However, he builds on this statement with clever wordplay, as he points out that he owns the whole Epic Rap Battles of History series, as the series itself is produced by Maker Studios Inc., a subsidiary of The Walt Disney Company purchased for $500 million in 2014.
So technically, Walt broke the fourth wall.
Taken from Genius' Page
genius.com/Epic-rap-battles-of-history-jim-henson-vs-stan-lee-lyrics
If you ever are confused by a line or don't know the meaning, Genius.com usually has every ERB. You can go there and click most of the lines to find what it means.
Yeah, after this there's just season 5 (and any of the currently running season 6 you haven't watched yet). You should check out the Princess Rap Battles as well. There's like 10 of them I think.
They're also very poor quality. Kmart erb
8:00 - A sunset is a beautiful thing, but if it's happening at noon it's happening way too soon and you're losing half the day.
I always feel so DAMN old when reactors don't INSTANTLY recognize Disney from the first six letters... M I C... K E Y... in that tune, it's classic Disney.
Disney: Hold on, I'mma let y'all finish, but GET BACK TO WORK
the fact Jim Henson carries that rhyme from "sense your tension" all the way to near the end of his round with "mention" makes it one of my favorites of ERB
Yea. They didn't say "Who won?" purposely because this was one of their last videos with Maker Studios, which is now owned by Disney. They worked with Maker Studios when it was bought and they really didn't like it at all. This whole rap battle was a subtle diss as Disney for what they have done.
A sunset at noon is too early in the day... So what Stan was saying was that Jim was lost too soon.
I thought he ment lookings at the sunset at noon was looking at the sun and getting blinded but yours makes more sense😂
I love how in this one you can hear the moment it goes from exceptionally good ERB to "Aight, we got some shit to say"
The part when Disney came in was a Double word play. Spelled Mickey and "I rock the MIC properly, Turning profits I've got the KEY
I love the "I am the Disneylandlord of your intellectual property" line.
People who watched the original "Mickey Mouse Club" on Disney Channel would immediately catch the tune of the M-I-C-K-E-Y part and know it is Walt Disney
this.
If you were a little older rich you would know that the whole M-I-C...K-E-Y. Was how the Mickey Mouse club started so we older folks knew that instantly
Technically what Jim Henson (and NicePeter) did was puppeteering, not ventriloquism. The only significant difference is with puppets you don't try to hide your mouth moving. Jim Henson wanted to make 100% sure children knew his puppets weren't talking on their own so he would make sure they saw his mouth moving.
At some point in 2014 Disney bought Maker Studio's which was a Kassim G partnership owned and operated thing before that. That was end of season 3 beginning of season 4 time. So from that point Disney essentially owned ERB. After season 5 though ERB was put on the back burner while Lloyd and Peter pursued other interests. They bought ERB back from Disney and now own it themselves which is why there is so much riding on a successful return.
Jim Henson just played the puppets, you also see his mouth moving in the battle. He never was a ventriloquist.
The "beautyful sunset at noon" thing is referencing the muppet show always on TV at noon.
ERB was made in a studio owned by Disney, but now they are independent through patreon.
I love it when Doc Rich is back at it again
The labor condition remark is a reference to how artists that work for Disney have come out and said that the conditions in their studios are atrociously bad, often to the point where artists are figuratively worked to the bone to meet deadlines and that it's nowhere near as glamorous as one might believe before going in.
"Watching a beautiful sunset at noon"
It means that Henson left before his time
“You were like watching a beautiful sunset at noon”
Basically synonymous with “you were gone too soon”
A sun sets too early if it comes at noon
"Who won? Who's next?" Isn't there for two reasons.
1º End of season.
2º.....Because Disney won. Of course he did. He owned Maker Studios (the ones who make ERB) right up until the end of Season 5.
Something to note, by the way. If you look closely at all the people painting/drawing at the end, you can clearly see a lot of brands in there. ABC, ESPN, etc etc.
It's actually frightening how much Disney actually owns, directly or indirectly.
When u hear the M-I-C followed by the K-E-Y and u put them together, u can tell that's Walt Disney 😁😁😁
"(M-I-C) I rock the MIC properly.... (K-E-Y) Turning profits, I got the KEY...." Well played ERB.... Epic bar....
5:12 "Clobberin'Time"" isn't the Hulk. It's Ben Grimm aka the Thing, from the Fantastic 4""
There was a controversy about Stan Lee being the victim of elder abuse, then his daughter said that Marvel took advantage of Stan and that he didn’t have control of his mind. Money grubbing biotch, the abuse was after she got more involved and started hiring ppl because she wanted his talent not him.
At the time ERB was under the Maker studios, which is then owned by Disney. So technically they were in fact owned by Disney, up until the battle between Guy Fawkes vs Che Cavrea, is when ERB left Maker's studios and became independent, with some help from Patreon's donations. Also I'm sure you probably know this by now, but at the end of each season, they don't do the "who won" thing.
the Walt Disney Company owns Maker Studios (now Disney Digital), which produces Epic Rap Battles of History, so in a literal sense, Disney owns ERB
I don't know how much you know about a lot of video games but you should watch VI (Six) Seconds: Best Video Game Rap of All Time, Her, I'll Body You, I'm Sorry, and The Gawd. And Shofu's Pokemon Cypher 2013, Pokemon Cypher 2016, and Indigo Cypher.
Great video dude!
There were 5 seasons, with the 5th season being when Disney bought Maker studios, their parent, and thus, 'owned' ERB. After a year or so break, Lloyd and Peter were able to buy back ERB from Disney and start on season 6, which is where we are now. And the other show is EpicLloyds' 'Dis Raps for hire'
The M-I-C, K-E-Y line and beat was not only the play on words but a reference to The Mickey Mouse Club and its theme song.
Getting old doesn't worry anyone. Until it starts happening. Then you wake up to pee for the third time in a night, every once in a while with stiff legs, and once or twice barely make the toilet in time, and then suddenly you realize it's just starting. You realize that you're still kind-of youngish and it's already going downhill and you can't help but wonder how far down the hill you go...
'Watching A Beautiful Sunset...At Noon' It's a reference to one of Henson's most popular yet least recognized creations, Sesame Street.
Watching a sunset at noon is saying something that happens before it should have (before its time). It ties in with him saying that Jim died too soon.
The MIC kEY was referring to the original Mickey Mouse Show. They use to sing "M-I-C. See you real soon. K-E-Y. Why? Because we like you. M-O-U-S-E."
With Jack Kirby and Stan Lee they used what they called the Marvel Method to make comics where Stan would give a broad script maybe just a page or so and let Jack actually come up with how the story would happen panel to panel. Then Stan would get the artwork and put in the word bubbles, writing the story to match up with Jack’s art. So who really wrote the story was the big controversy.
More accurately, Stan would give Jack a basic plot, Jack would run with it, fleshing out the story and the action, and Stan would write in the dialog after.
the beautiful sunset at noon line meant that it was like watching something amazing end before it should
The 1970's Mickey Mouse Club started each episode with the Kids of the show singing the theme song and spelling out Mickey's name
The sunset at noon was implying Jim had passed much earlier than his time.
He's saying Henson was gone too soon like noon is too soon for the sunset. And also the production company backing them at the time of this video was owned by Disney.
Beautiful senset at noon - sunset is what you expect at the end of the day, not at noon. With Jim, the sunset of his life came too early at 54, when he should've been in the middle of his life.
Luis Maysonet Also Sesame Street was on tv at noon.
"(M.I.C) I rock the Mic properly! (K.E.Y) Turning profits I've got the key!"
i got this line first time because i was a hardcore disney fan as a kid we went to disney world five or six times and i will probably always remember the song they play (Who's the leader of the club
That's made for you and me! M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E!)
Does no one recognize the Mickey Mouse Club theme anymore?
Sunset at noon is referring to Henson dying too early. Noon is too early for a sunset.
Rest in peace Stan Lee we will miss u
Disney is incredibly close to being a Monopoly of entertainment and the more you look into their business and polices and the way the treat (staff, artists, writers) no one realizes how sketchy and corrupt they are
ventriloquist is the people that use a puppet without moving their lips. this is more just puppetry, since the puppeteer is always hidden in henson's work.
Stan LEE
VORSUSS
JIM HENSOOOOOOOOOOON
begin
Yeah... I have a traumatic story of an elder gentleman who walked into the Dunkin Donuts I was working at at the time and was clearly in distraught... and just dropped his pants and let loose from the front door to the bathroom... you can imagine that was an interesting day 😅
The way Disney spells "Mickey" is like the send off from the Mouseketeers.
M-I-C
See you later!
K-E-Y
Why? Because we like you!
M-O-U-S-E
Mickey Mouse! Mickey Mouse!
Forever we shall hold our banner high!
HIGH! HIGH! HIGH!
13:08 anyone else notice the paintings are everything Disney owms from Iron man a&e abc and much more lol loved that detail. Plus plz like so rich xan read and notice the same thing. Thanks.
A beautiful sunset at noon is too early. Jim Henson died before his time.
Jack drew the books Stan wrote them. However Jack created the Marvel method where Jack drawings came first and then Stan wrote the dialog.
Had the same reaction as me about Walt Disney I didn't know it was him until he said "the Disney land lord" then I was like "oh it's Walt Disney"
The sunset at noon line means it’s a beautiful sunset...but much too early. Like how Jim Henson was gone too early
They didn't ask "who won" because the answer is obvious.... with Disney owning everything, we all lose.
Jim henson died to a very curable disease that he refused to get treatment for, so his death was like watching an early sunset
Walt Disney only wanted to make people happy what Disney is today Walt didn't want. Oh and Walt Disney is dead.
He’s just a puppeteer, he moves his mouth. A ventriloquist doesn’t move his mouth.
That series jab was just a joke. It was ment to illustrate Disney's over inflated ego and greed for world domination.
Look up all the things the Walt Disney Company owns. It's scary how much they control.
Yeah, Jack was the art/layout man par excellence, while Stan was an idea guy. They both were important, but Stan catered to the public, while Jack didn't want to have the limelight.
"Sunset at noon" is just a metaphor for ending too soon. Suns are supposed to set in the evening, but Jim died well before his time.
Mr Hooper RIP
The sweatshop thing: Disney famously derided and worked against the unions back in the day - there's even shtick about it in Dumbo (the union 'clowns').
ERB used to be produced by Maker studios (they went independent recently) but yes Maker studios is owned by Disney
I always laugh when you look perplexed lol!
Disney owns 28% of the entire worlds entertainment industry.
“Clobbering time” is The Things line from Fantastic Four not hulk. Hulk is “Hulk Smash”
I new it was Disney as soon as M-I-C came up. That was the opening to my the theme song of the original Mickey Mouse club .
I Don't Own My House.It's Belongs To Disney
M-I-C, I rock the MIC properly, K-E-Y, turning profits I got the KEY (just another little thing he missed).
Whilst the Stan Lee/Jack Kirby controversy was bad, it was nowhere near as raw a deal as Bill Finger got from Bob Kane.
To be a bit more specific than the others in the comments, Disney owns Maker Studios which owned ERB at the time.
Disney Sweat Shops? Hell, yes, even back in the 1950's, before the parks and toy lines! Hand-drawn animation, thousands upon thousands of drawings -- no computers, remember! -- required long hours of hand-cramping and not always well-paid labor! Air conditioning? What's that?
It was just a reference to Jim dying way too early. He died of some illness I forget (pneumonia? maybe?) at age 53. I was 13 at the time, and man was it heartbreaking. Disney released a really sweet tribute to him: lavendergirl88.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/funny-muppets-disney-kermit-sad.jpg
The kirby thing has more to it. The marvel method has the writer give a shitty vague story outline and the artist does literally damn near everything else. It really was Jack Kirby's comic with Stan's ideas.
ERB was part of Maker Studios which is owned by Disney before ERB went independent
Disney been respecting the marvel and muppets history
Yeah, Walt Disney was not a big fan of unions. Back in the early 40s, his animation studio went on strike because they wanted to form a union of their own, but he wouldn't let them. Several animators broke off and formed their own studio, UPA.
Sunset is usually between 5 and 7 hes saying he was gone before his time like if the sun were to set at noon
I'm the Juggernaut Bitch, my suit so TIGHT
I don’t have hunk a that was Walt. I never saw Walt look like that . That’s the new face of Disney that cares more about money than integrity.
Walt Disney the only person in epic rap battles of history that one by purely flexing.
This was intentionally and brilliantly written, Disney spends the whole time emphasizing how he is both undisputably the winner, and also indisputably evil.
This was the last battle ERB produced while working with Maker Studios and technically owned by Disney. A truly epic way to go out while giving the finger to your boss in public.
A sunset at noon is early
Fans give kirby credit nowadays. Its kinda similar to Tesla, once the info was realized, it spread to popular knowledge. But yeah for years it was not well known
also to explain it: Disney is the parent company of the company that paid for ERB, the is why there was such a long delay between the last two seasons. they are now privately owned by cast and crew.
P.P.S Disney, after the fox purchase, owns more than 68% of all entertainment, world wide. the beauty of being so big you get to rewrite the monopoly and public domain laws of USA
You wouldn't catch that unless you where old enough to have seen the Mickey Mouse club... Way to make me feel old XD